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October 17, 2025 41 mins

Hall of Fame running back Jerome Bettis joins Dan and discusses the challenges facing the Pittsburgh Steelers this season and talks about why he wasn’t seen as famous when he was a student athlete at Notre Dame. Former Notre Dame football player and broadcaster Mike Golic Sr. talks about the potential end of the USC/Notre Dame rivalry and the need for a scheduling czar in college football.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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(00:36):
and Peacock. We will talk to Jerome bettis here momentarily.
Mike Golick Senior. Big Mike will join us coming up
here in a little bit as well. Seaton poll question
from our one and then what are we going to
go with an hour two hour one? We got up there?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
How much you think the Steelers are going to regret
last night's loss? At least sixty two percent of the
audience have.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
That as a lot.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
They're really going to regret that a.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ton I'm putting up one right now, but I need
help with the over under here. How long do you
think Kurt Signetti will get into his contract before getting
a new one over under four years.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh you think he's going to double up and get
another one in four years?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Maybe he gets another one, Maybe the contract is no
longer active. I'm not sure exactly what it is. I'm
just throwing at these big contracts like that. They never
go the distance. He's gonna end up beating a bunch
of people getting into the playoffs again, getting into say
like the top four there and then later I've done
thirteen million.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Sound a little better? Oh okay, I thought we were
skewing negative that he won't last through the contract.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Also a possibility, also a very distinct possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Wow, okay, I'm going to root for the best. That
he's sixty four years of age and what is it
eight eight years? Yeah, in his contract, I'll root for
the I'm mister positive today, Yes, Todd, are you going
to be negative here?

Speaker 5 (01:59):
No, I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I hope he's last, and I hope he stays a
long time. But it is one of those coaches that
spends many, many years in Indiana, lives a happy, healthy life,
a couple of titles.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
All right, Yes, it is really a fascinating week though,
because Indiana has never been a football school, and this
is the biggest commitment they've ever made in their history.
I mean, this is this is like it was like
you know what, or get off the pot. They said,
We're going to put all our chips in and keep
this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Are they still a basketball school?

Speaker 7 (02:27):
They'd prefer to be a basketball school.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
But currently, if your football coach is making more than
your basketball coach, you're temporarily a football school.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
Like Indiana, football is having a run right now, right,
but they're still It's almost like North Carolina.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
It's a basketball state, yes, and it's a basketball college,
but right now things are going the way of football.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Is this the only part of the state where football
is king?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Probably? Okay, yeah? Probably? By the way to meet for
we got burgers, meatballs, we got reverse seared Porterhouse steaks.
We got mashed potatoes, green beans, skillet corn bread. We
also had a fan named Don who brought some Polish
sausages from a local butcher.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
Is Don here, Don the sausage Guy, Don.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The sausage Guy, the sausage King of South Yes, Don
brought his sausage sausages blural plural plural, Yeah, who is
it better than we do? Jerome bettas Hall of Famer
Notre Dame running back, and he's got a lot of

(03:42):
things that he is working with the Jerome bettas Bus
Stops Here Foundation. We'll talk to him about that. He's
also got a holiday toy drive on display as well. Bussy,
good to talk to you. When I say USC the
first thing that comes to mind is.

Speaker 9 (03:58):
Hey, we hate USC absolutely.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
More than Michigan.

Speaker 10 (04:06):
Yes, more than Michigan, but it's slightly more me being
from the state of Michigan. I may have a little
different opinion, but USC is is our biggest rival, no
question about it.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
But you did well against USC, then you I never lost.
I got you in nineteen ninety one, you had two
touchdowns Notre Dame one by four, and then in ninety
two you guys won thirty one twenty three. What do
you remember about those games?

Speaker 10 (04:35):
That they were all, you know, really good games. And
USC has always been competitive. You know, they had a
couple of years and they've kind of slid a little bit,
but it's always you know, that big game. And what
I always remembered about it is if you play well
in that game, then everyone in.

Speaker 9 (04:54):
The country knows your name. You know what I mean,
it's one of those games.

Speaker 10 (04:57):
Where if you can have a big game, you become
my household name around the country.

Speaker 9 (05:02):
That's the kind of game that it is.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Did USC recruit you?

Speaker 9 (05:06):
They did? That was the one of the three visits
that I took. Actually, yes, I took.

Speaker 10 (05:10):
I went to Michigan, USC and Notre Dame and USC
was just too far away. But I remember seeing uh
Junior Sea when I was on my visit and he
had a tank top on and I said, who.

Speaker 9 (05:26):
Is this guy looking like Zeus?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I said, who is?

Speaker 9 (05:30):
They said, that's what you say, he's going to the NFL.

Speaker 10 (05:33):
And I was just I thought to myself, if that's
what all the linebackers look like.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
I'm in.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Uh, those linebackers found out quickly they were in trouble
when they were trying to tackle you. You did tell
the story, didn't you have somebody that it almost sounded
like they were weeping or when when they tried to
tackle you. Was that in the NFL where I heard
a little a little little scream or little cry.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
But how often didn't guys make business decisions? You think
with trying to tackle you?

Speaker 9 (06:10):
A lot in the later part of my career.

Speaker 10 (06:12):
The early part of my career, guys were trying to
take me on and you know, I, you know, broke
a guy's shoulder at the play for Baltimore and did this,
did that, and so a lot of guys later on
saw the kind of the curnage. I said, Okay, that's
not for me. And the latter part of my career,

(06:32):
guys started going to my ankles and in lower extremities.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
They didn't want to take me on a file.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, but what's the one tackle that somebody got the
better of you?

Speaker 9 (06:45):
Oh? My goodness?

Speaker 10 (06:45):
Uh the one we were playing a Tennessee Titans and
Mike thom Zach he threw me the ball late and
he knew.

Speaker 9 (06:55):
He shouldn't have threw it to me.

Speaker 11 (06:58):
So I go to catch the ball and as soon
as I catch it, I get I get cracked and
my head hit the hit the ground first. So you
know that was a bad one because I'm a big guy.
In my head usually didn't get there before my butt.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Where you who hit you?

Speaker 10 (07:17):
I was not concussed, No, And I cannot remember who
uh the I think his name was Bolden Bolden, but
he played for Tennessee Titans, and he was he was
a good linebacker.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
But I should never have had a hit like that
on me, and uh, I got up.

Speaker 10 (07:37):
I'll never forget went to the I went to the
huddle and I just looked at my job.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
He was like, sorry, bro, what happened to your Steelers
last night?

Speaker 9 (07:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (07:52):
They You know, I think sometimes these things are psychological, right,
and you hear the what well coach Tomlin says about Flacco, right,
and then you go out and lay an egg. But
you have to look at it and say, Joe Flacco

(08:13):
is a capable quarterback when you don't get pressure on him.
When you get pressure on him, then you know he
can make some mistakes. And that's just what the Steelers
couldn't do last night. They could not get pressure, consistent
pressure on Joe Flacco. And when you have those receivers

(08:33):
on that roster, it's gonna be hard for you to
cover the entire field. And Joe Flacco was hot and
he sliced the part my Pittsburgh Steelers and didn't look good.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, but this is what I don't understand. Steelers always
have great defense and here you are giving up thirty
points again that I think The big question was receivers,
running game, Aaron Rodgers offensive line. That doesn't seem like
it's the problem. It feels like it's defense with this team.

Speaker 9 (09:03):
Yeah, when you score thirty points, you should you should
win the game.

Speaker 10 (09:07):
I mean that's just how how it works in terms
of in Pittsburgh, because that defense always shows up and is.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
Ready to play.

Speaker 10 (09:16):
The problem is they're they're just not getting the production,
uh in that front seven, which is putting the guys
in the secondary, uh, you know, at risk. They're nobody's
playing well. Let me say that the back end they're
not playing particularly well. And the front seven, those guys

(09:37):
they're not. Uh, they're giving up too much yards in
the run game. This one thing that still has never
gave up was one hundred yard rusher. And so to
see Brown have one hundred yards that was discouraging.

Speaker 12 (09:49):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (09:50):
And then to be able to not put Flacco on
the ground, that was a huge problem.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Mike Tomlin ever yell at you.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
I know I missed Tomlin, so I when I retired.

Speaker 10 (10:04):
Coward was in this last year, okay, uh, and then
he left and then Tomlin came.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Uh a year later.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
The coward yell at you yes he did.

Speaker 10 (10:14):
He yelled at everybody, and I mean he was a spinner,
so you can't understand.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That was yeah, but wasn't lou Holtz didn't he?

Speaker 9 (10:24):
Yes, I was. I was.

Speaker 10 (10:26):
I was fortunate to have double spinners. But the key,
the key is don't screw up. So I screw it up,
very very little I got. I didn't get as much
that the juice that somebody else got.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
You should have worn the Ladanian Tomlinson shield then you
could have.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
You know, they weren't out there. You better believe I
would have had a shield.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Were you famous when you were on campus here your
senior year?

Speaker 13 (10:57):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
No?

Speaker 10 (10:59):
Because so I left after my junior year. And what
happened was I had a really good sophomore year. So yeah,
I was maybe a popular, but I wasn't like So
we had to get rocket Ishmael Now.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Rocket when I was there, he was a star. Okay,
they had to They.

Speaker 10 (11:19):
Had to take him out of the hotel in the
laundry basket type things. I mean, he had that kind
of people out there looking for him, and he was
he was a star.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Hold hold on, Rocket gets in the laundry basket to
then get out of a hotel to like, yeah, so
he can.

Speaker 9 (11:39):
They can take him out in the back and put
him in.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
The car and drive him away so that you know,
it's got crazy because he couldn't just walk out the front.

Speaker 9 (11:47):
Door, uh type thing.

Speaker 10 (11:49):
You know he was he was a rock star when
we were at Notre Dame because he had done some
amazing things. Myself, I was a really good player and
on you know, on the cusp if you will, and
everybody knew who I was, but it wasn't the rock
star uh stype type celebrity.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, but are you talking to like boy band celebrity
for rocket ismail Like there were women out, girls outside
screaming and waiting for really.

Speaker 10 (12:17):
Yes, It's like if he came down the elevator, you
would see a crowd rush over over there where If I.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Came down elevator, everybody say, you know, and I do the.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
Way, Hey, if he come down, they would kind of
rush over there.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Uh, tell me what you're doing with the Drone Bettis
bus stops here Foundation.

Speaker 10 (12:41):
Well, we were at the bus stop hir Foundation. We're
you know, extremely excited about our cyber bus program.

Speaker 9 (12:48):
We've got our second bus that.

Speaker 10 (12:52):
We've been very fortunate Bluebird donated uh a new electric
bus to us. We got it retrofitted thanks to the
CEXT Foundation, and now we've got we've got it ready
and prepared to go to the rural areas of Pittsburgh,
Washington County, all those areas where there's kids that that
still need access to uh the technology that we're able

(13:17):
to provide. And then we also have our first bus
that goes into the the housing Authority there in Pittsburgh
and represents the Bus Stops Foundation and helps a lot
of kids there and parents and grandparents. So we're just
proud of the things that we're able to accomplish there
in Pittsburgh and UH just it warms my heart. And

(13:38):
then are our Christmas holiday toy drive. We're trying to
get get toys and what we do is we give
them the families that are that are having a difficult
time uh during the holidays that that need uh you know,
kind of a hand up, not a handout, and and
we kind of provide that for them uh and their.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Children on the in the holiday scenes.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
And so things that we're trying to do in Pittsburgh
and try to stay connected.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
To the community.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Always great to talk to you, Bussy, thanks again for
joining us.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
Thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's a Jerome Bettis on the program. Yeah, known Bussy
a long time. In fact, I go back. I have
a Jerome Bettis La Rams jersey and that that would
be a collection. You know, it's in my man cave
in Maine and it's got the you know, the Ram
colors and uh but Bussy gave me that a long,

(14:35):
long time ago.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, Paul, he was so cool in college because he
had that number six and he was one of the
first guys to go really with a different number and
he was so big and then you had the little
six on his jersey.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
Yeah, Marvin, he's in the same category as like Marshall
Falk and sa Kwon Barkley, where he was so great
as a Steeler, people forget he was a Ram. Yeah,
Like people don't remember Marshall Falk with the Colts, then
I can to remember Saquon Barkley with the Giants.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
So like man, he was a RAM.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I remember talking to a defensive back and he said,
you got to swear that you'll never mention my name.
And he said he played against bus and he said
that he got hit and it hurts so bad that
he actually started crying, and he didn't want anybody to see,
so he doubled over to make it seem like, you know,
he got his Chester's stomach and he said, I was

(15:23):
I was doubled over. I was weeping. It hurts so bad.
But he said told.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
You that I guess that defensive back.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
We're playing, all right, everybody gets one guess?

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Sorry? What position did you say?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
He was a defensive back? Oh? Defensive back? Sorry? Sorry, yeah,
if you want to make one guess, but I'm not
going to tell you if you're right or not, because
I promised this guy that I would not say his name.
Defensive back who cried? He actually shed tears. It hurts
so bad. When he tried to tackle Bus Marvin.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I'll start with you, Al Harris from the Packers.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Al Harris, I don't think he was a defensive back.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Oh you mean like safety.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
He almost tricked me there, He almost tricked me there,
Todd Steve at one, I knew you were gonna say
that because if you don't know anybody else, so you
had a Bronco Seaton.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I wanted to say Rodney, but he would never admit
to almost crying.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
No, No, Rodney Harrison was on the kickoff squad and
he would try to get knocked He would go down
there and try to hit you so hard that he
would get knocked out. And that's how Belichick saw him.
He saw him with the Chargers and he goes, I
want that guy on my team. And Rodney is a
Hall of Fame defensive back. PAULI.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I'm gonna go Rando, Mark Carrier, safety.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Mark Carrier, Tampa Bay.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, little bear's old Tampa. Okay, all right, I thought
I catch in your face. We get We'll never know.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
We'll never know.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It's a secret that I'll take into retirement.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yes, Marvin, you said, what team did he play for?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I didn't and you almost tricken go either way. You
got new gear. That's the Notre Dame. If you're watching
on Peacock, that's the new hockey logo.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
There.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
So awesome.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That looks great. You're decked out for a guy that
is a Connecticut Husky.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
No, I'm a fighting Irish. When you think of Irish,
this is what you.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
See, Marvin, Old Prince.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, and your hands are similar to the hands on the.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I thought we're having a good day.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
I am, there's a scale.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, let's take a break. Uh. Mike Golick is going
to join us here and we'll get more of your
phone calls. Also, the athletic director, Notre Dame Bavakwa. I
want to ask him about how do we salvage this
rivalry between these two schools. We talked to Marcus Freeman yesterday.
I don't think he wanted to answer it, but I
had to ask it because I was like, why does

(18:06):
USC not want to continue this rivalry? That'll be coming
up a little bit later on. We'll take a break.
We're back with Mike Golick.

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Speaker 7 (18:16):
What?

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Speaker 1 (19:06):
YEA.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
A couple of phone calls, we'll bring in Big Mike Gullick.
How about James in Virginia? Hi, James, what's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (19:16):
We're gonna go inside of him. We're gonna go outside
of him, inside of him, outside of him. We're gonna
get him on the run. And once we get him
on the run, we're gonna keep him on the run.
We're not gonna pass. We're not gonna pass unless our
secondary comes up too close, unless our secondary comes up
too close, and we're not gonna stop until we cross that.
Go right, and don't forget men. Today the day we're

(19:36):
gonna win. Today, Today we're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Thank you, Thank you, James. Hey, you captured the moment
from Rudy quite well. Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
That's the first time he sounded how he looks.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Wow Wow, the deep cut.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Mar Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Anything else you'd like to add, James, Man, I.

Speaker 13 (20:00):
Just I love the interview yesterday with Hadago Man. She
was amazing, dude, what a great woman she is.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Man.

Speaker 13 (20:08):
I can't wait to see how Sey Flourish is this year. Man,
and just so excited for this weekend. Then let's go Washington, Man,
Salu the commanders, and let's go Irish.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
All right here, all right, that's the James I know.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Come on now, James in Virginia. All right. He is
Mike Goliic, senior, co host of Gojo and Golic on
DraftKings Network, former defensive lineman, of course, a member of
the Fighting Irish Alumni, and great to see him again.
We welcome in Mike Golick Senior on the program.

Speaker 13 (20:38):
Alright, alr.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
There he is, or used to be Big Mike, but
not anymore. Medium Mike is what they call him. Now.

Speaker 15 (20:51):
Two quick things first, Uh, sorry to do this, but
we Mike and I change network for it. FanDuel now
God yeah, yeah, killing sorry, Todd.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I'd just get the memo on then. I just figured
i'd get that out.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
He wait, let me give you the correct plug.

Speaker 15 (21:09):
Yeah, it's Golik and Golic. Now we went from Gojo
and Golic to Golo and go Gojo and Golick and
Golic Fando Sports Network three to five afternoon. Okay, all right,
and second thing, that second thing who said Steve Atwater
and Rodney Harrison cried, I mean seriously, I mean you

(21:30):
for those that aren't old enough google Steve Atwater and
Christian Nakoye. Christian Nakoya was a two hundred and fifty
pounds back for Kansas City that ran a straight run
up the middle. Steve Atwater came and dropped him, dropped
him where he stood. And Rodney Harrison, you don't have
to saying those two would snap their forearms and not cry.

(21:51):
So those were those I was stunned when I heard
those two names, but.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You could I don't know if you can imagine this,
but like you have to make that business decision with
your own bettas there's certain players where you go, this
is gonna hurt.

Speaker 15 (22:04):
And I've always got asked about And Jerome's rookie year
was my ninth year, my last year in the league,
so I didn't play against him. But people always ask
how would you have tackled like Derrick Henry? And I said,
as a D lineman, you don't get that back at
full speed. You know that back when they get to
the second and third level and all of a sudden,
that dB is looking at that back going okay, do

(22:27):
I hit.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Him in the thigh? Do I hit him in the ankle?

Speaker 15 (22:29):
Do I hit him in the chest and make that businesses.
But as a D lineman, we rarely got him at
full speed, and we were bigger than him.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
But when you think about the running backs you played against,
like Emmett, you played against quite a bit, quite a bit,
but he wasn't fast. He was like the running back
version of Jerry Rice. It didn't seem like he was fast.
But nobody ever caught Jerry Rice from behind, and Emmett
seemed to get faster better as the game went on.

Speaker 15 (22:56):
That's why you know you talk about Jerry Rice running
the four to six at the combine was too slow. Well,
there's forty speed, which you rarely want to run a
straight ahead forty and there's game speed, which is a
different thing. And Emma could drop his shoulder and deliver
a blow as good as anybody. Tony Dorsett was a
guy you could never get a good hit on. He
always turned his body at the last moment. You could

(23:18):
never get a solid hit on him.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
EMMITTT. Smith, I hit as hard as I've ever hit
anybody in my life. Out of bounds.

Speaker 15 (23:24):
I had a full speed run and he was going
toward the sideline, and I mean I clocked him, clocked him,
and I hit him. And as I was going down,
I'm like, oh, yeah, that one hurt him, and he
bounced up and ran right back to I'm laying on.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
The side and go, what the hell just happened.

Speaker 15 (23:39):
It's like a boxer giving your best punch and the
dude just kind of shaking it off.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
You're going, oh, well, I'm screwed.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
How would you describe this rivalry with USC Notre Dame
and why is it on the cusp of ending?

Speaker 13 (23:50):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I hate USC? I mean I hate USC.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But are you you were taught that growing up?

Speaker 15 (23:57):
Well, I mean, listen, I have a different perspective from notere.
My brother Bob came here as a freshman in seventy five.
I was twelve years old, so I grew up basically
coming to Notre Dame games. And then my brother Greg
came here, and I was more with my peers before
I got recruited to come here. I mean USC recruited me,

(24:18):
but there was never a thought. And when both my
kids both my son Mike was a junior, he was
down with Urban Meyer getting recruited to Florida, and Jake
was a sophomore and was down there with him as
a recruit. And I told the boys there, I said, listen,
don't go to Notre Dame because me and your mother
and your uncles went there. And I rattle off everybody

(24:38):
that went there. I said, you go where your heart
takes you. I said, except USC. I said, you can't
go to USC. That's a non starter.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Why are we on the verge of ending this rivalry?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well, I mean, listen, Notre Dame.

Speaker 15 (24:52):
I's going to sit there and people are going to listen, say, oh,
he's blaming USC. But it is on USC. Notre Dame
hasn't changed their independence. We haven't changed anything. We still
play the same schedule. No FCS schools, all FBS schools.
Now it's ACC schools, been big ten schools. But the
Michigan rivalry is somewhat over USC, and I get it

(25:13):
to a point where they're doing it, they're gonna have
to play They playing nine conference games and they have
to be careful of their non conference schedule to make
the playoffs. So there's part of me that understands their reasoning.
But then the Notre Dame part of me comes in
and says, just schedule us.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, if you had a scheduling, SAR, or if we
get to that point, then you're going to have Notre
Dame in Michigan, and then you would have Note Dame
in USC. It would be mandatory. I mean, we're in
the entertainment business. That's why we've expanded the playoffs. That's
why we're going to expand March madness. I just I
would hope that there is somebody and maybe this is
ten years down the road when we have the top

(25:52):
forty schools in America, right right, Yeah, and then you
can have this is your schedule this year. Maybe you
don't play USC this year, but you're playing in next year.
Maybe you play Michigan. That's what I think we need.
I worry about when you have these schools and you
take before a big game, you always have that cupcake. Now,
I know the cupcake is a payout game, right, but

(26:12):
it's still haven't we gotten to the point where let's
just play a really good schedule.

Speaker 15 (26:19):
Well, I mean, teams are in schools are thinking about
the playoffs. But the thing about it is like Notre
Dame has two losses, two losses to the number two
and number five team in the country. If Notre Dame
runs the table they're in, they're ten and two, they're
going to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
If they could lose tomorrow, they lose.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
They're going to be done. If they get a third loss, they're.

Speaker 15 (26:38):
Going to be done because they can't win a conference,
so they're going to be done. And they put themselves
in this tough spot kind of like last.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Year a bit.

Speaker 15 (26:45):
But the two team and when the committee looks at
the two losses, as long as those two teams keep winning,
they're going to be like, well, those are quote unquote
great losses.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
But to play USC anymore would probably be early in the.

Speaker 15 (26:57):
Season, conference games being later in the season, so it
would have to be done early in the season if
it's going to continue. I mean, it's the ninety sixth meeting,
the only one that's been longer is Notre Dame Navy
and that's ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
What was your first reaction when you saw Rudy? I mean,
it is a documentary.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Do I have to answer this question? Am I on
the hot seat for this question? There were some Hollywood.

Speaker 15 (27:34):
Things put in there to make it a little more
than maybe what it was. So the story is great,
right of not being a recruited athlete going to Holy Cross,
finally getting your chance, but some of the things on
the inside of that maybe didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
So you didn't buy into this even though this is
your alma monum.

Speaker 15 (27:57):
My brother Bob was a freshman when when Rudy when
the Rudy story, when Rudy was in his last year,
and my brother Bob, if you ask him, he doesn't
even remember. Rudy doesn't remember.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
And now Rudy was defensive show team.

Speaker 15 (28:13):
My brother Bob was on the defense going against the
offensive show team, so he wouldn't have a chance to
play against him on the field.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
But still they were teammates.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And did your brother turn in his jersey like everybody
else did that they weren't going to play if Rudy.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Remember I talked about of Hollywood embellishment. Can I get
a t o here? Yeah? Again?

Speaker 15 (28:40):
Great story, great, great, you know story of a kid
who wasn't a top athlete getting on the team and
getting in for a play and such.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's Mike Golig Senior squirming in his seat right now.
He is, him and his son are on FanDuel Network.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Todd, Sorry, Todd, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's okay. You've been consistently bad. Okay, don't worry about it.
You know, how do you keep these coaches in place
for a longer period of time? We grew up in
an era where coaches stayed for decades. But here's Marcus Freeman.
Who I mean, everybody loves Marcus Freeman. I think they

(29:21):
looked at him maybe for the NFL last year. You know,
is Penn State going to come knocking on the door?
The money that is there now? You know the price
with you know, coach Signetti getting eleven million dollars a year.
How do you keep these coaches in place for a
long period of time?

Speaker 15 (29:39):
First off, let me say, stay the hell away from
Marcus Freeman, all right, stay away from my coach?

Speaker 5 (29:45):
All right.

Speaker 15 (29:46):
He is a great coach. He's a great recruiter. Why
they're coming after Listen. I know he just got extended
I think last December. If they have to, you keep
extending this guy as long as you have to to
keep him here. I mean, listen, Dan, everybody every complained
about the players having movement, and I do think while
I'm happy the players have movement, happy the players are

(30:06):
getting paid. Being able to move every single year is
really really tough, But coaches have been able to.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
I mean, Kurt Signetti signed that eight year, ninety two
million dollar.

Speaker 15 (30:16):
Extension and he still could sign somewhere else next year
if he wanted to, Right, he won't. He's really done
an incredible job with that program, but he could.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Extensions really mean nothing.

Speaker 15 (30:28):
The buyout may get bigger, but you always have alumni
that will buy it out. Dan, there's no way under
the current system, there's no way to stop the movement.
And quite honestly, head coaches don't want to stop this
movement because they're going only be one new coach at
Penn State. But if five are talked about, those other
four are going to get extensions at the school they're atting.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
More money, so they don't want it to change either.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
What's going on with the Big Ten with this pension
fund and you know, two billion dollars.

Speaker 15 (30:57):
Oh, the private equity firm, I think, I think the
worry there for this.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
It would be split.

Speaker 15 (31:03):
There's eighteen teams in the Big Ten and then the
equity firm.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
There'd be split twenty ways. Basically, I think.

Speaker 15 (31:11):
The one point of contention for any kind of private
equity is what kind of power do they have. I
understand they wouldn't get a seat on the board. It
all depends on the power that you have. There's one
thing to happen to pay a portion of your money
to somebody, but it's another thing if that entity has power,
and that's what they don't want. There's already enough cooks

(31:31):
in the kitchen, already enough. You talked about the possibility
of just forty teams. At some point it would probably
be more than that. But as my son Mike and
I argue about this all the time, he thinks that's
going to happen. But I'm like, I don't think commissioners
can work together. Greg SANKEI would have to be the
top man. He's not going to accept anybody else running
anything he wants to run. And I don't mean that

(31:53):
in a bad way, but that's kind of the position
that he's in. So I have a hard time believing
even the power for conference commissioners could all work together
to secure kind of going away from the NCAA and
just forming one one conference.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
March Madness is going to expand. It's not a question
of if, but when. And I mean it used to
be special to make the tournament.

Speaker 15 (32:14):
I mean, we've had so many coaches and we's had
John Calipari on the show, and every coach we've had
on is just like, why why are we You know,
we already have to call the play in games round one,
which I don't do. They're playing games. Now you're just
going to have more playing games. I mean I have.

(32:34):
But a team can say we made the tournament, No,
you didn't. It's really a play in game, even though
you're not saying it's a playing game.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I don't understand why they're expanding.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
But we're going to expand college football playoffs.

Speaker 15 (32:46):
We are, But I think sixteen is more palatable than
seventy six.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But we're not stopping at sixteen.

Speaker 15 (32:53):
Oh it better stop at sixteen. I mean, how far
can you go? I mean have you have? When do
you start games? I already think they wait too long
to start games. They should start them earlier. Then you
get into Christmas, then you get into school, which that's
another thing. We've we lost the student athlete moniker. But
there's a but. But the lower divisions have figured out playoffs,

(33:14):
haven't they. They've been doing it for years and they
figured it off. And Division One has always been like, ah,
we got to think about the players and the games
until the money gets too good, kind of like the
NFL and gambling.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
No we're not.

Speaker 15 (33:25):
No, can't wait a minute, how much can we make?
Oh wait, let's have gambling. Okay, So again, it's no
secret it's all about the money.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Did you know the point spreads when you were playing?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
No, I had no idea. Quite honestly. I've worked for
DraftKings and FanDuel and I still don't know the points spreads.
I really don't. I mean, we don't talk.

Speaker 15 (33:43):
About like the gambling and this point spread and stuff
on our show. We just do it like a sports show,
like like we used to do in the old days.

Speaker 12 (33:49):
Okay, but so when you played for the Eagles, No,
you had no idea, no idea, no clue, zero idea,
no idea, And I don't know if any players did,
but but I I had no idea at all.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Why is Notre Dame a nine and a half point
favorite tomorrow?

Speaker 15 (34:04):
That seemed coming off the USC destroying of Michigan and
Mayava the quarterback and Lemon the receiver?

Speaker 5 (34:11):
How good they are and the line?

Speaker 15 (34:13):
Their line is on their fourth combination, but they've only
given up four sacks.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
It's either too strong offenses.

Speaker 15 (34:20):
I was surprised that the spread was as big as
it is, but again, as a former player, I never
cared about the spread. If we won by a point
didn't matter to me.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
We got the w Where are you going to be
for the game?

Speaker 15 (34:31):
I'm actually calling the game for Notre Dame Radio. Ryan
Harris normally does it, but he has this little thing,
this fiftieth Super Bowl Anniversary for the Broncos that he's
going to, of which I wish I had a Super Bowl,
you know, United to go to. But he's going to that,
So I'm actually I'm actually calling the game.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Awesome, Yeah, that would be fun. A family here, No,
I'm here by myself, soaking it all in. Nobody wanted
to come with me.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
We were at linebackers last night. The line, Oh I'll
be there, I'll be there to We were there last night. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
There is no doubt. I don't want to get graphic,
but there's no doubt my vomit is still somewhere in there.
There's no doubt that it's still in there. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (35:13):
Yeah, great place, just a great place has been changed.
Don't don't wear open toe shoes in there.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Just don't.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Great to see you. Todd, my senior, he doesn't work
for draft.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Was a few months ago. Ready he went from Driftings
to Fangil GoJ It's Golic and gold.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, I wait three to five Eastern. Yeah. I thought
I would text at you, but I was like, I
was like screwed up. Like he's a phenomenal producer. He knows.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
All times of change.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh yeah, Fox the big noon kickoff at Michigan and
they're going to be in Utah. So me once Friday,
it's Brady Yeah, big intro to Brady Quinn. He's like, Uh,
I'm not I'm not here. I'm not in Michigan.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
You did play it? Noted you did?

Speaker 4 (36:01):
When you got that right the game for no Dame
on the week and.

Speaker 15 (36:03):
There you go, you're like hitting three hundred, you'd be
a multimillionaire bass.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Mike Golick Senior and you'll find him on.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Colic and Golic.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Go know where I got that gojo for them with
Goliatholic on FanDuel.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
How about we cut our losses. We'll take a break
back after this with the most must win game of
the weekend. After this.

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Speaker 2 (36:37):
Let's look at the games sliding into the weekend. We'll
start with Notre Dame in USC. What would be the
other recommendations there, Paulie.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I got a bunch for college I like to throw
out there, LSU Vandy, both of those guys, one of
them goes away.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Georgia Tech. They're undefeated and they got Duke.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
That's saucy old miss Georgia, Texas Tech undefeated, Arizona State.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
But there's that's the that's a college slate.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, You've got the Falcons and the Niners. Is that
a big game? Did it become a big game because
the Falcons beat the Bills.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Falcons have momentum and with Warner out for the forty
nine ers, that could be saucy.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any other great
games in the NFL, I mean the Rams and Jags.
Unfortunately it's in London. Eagles Vikings.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
That's good.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
People aren't sure what to think about the Vikings shed.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Well because JJ McCarthy's not playing. Yeah, and now it
feels like it's Carson Wentz's job. The let's see. I
still think Miami and Cleveland. Brown's only because what could
happen if the Dolphins lose this game is Mike McDaniel
coaching for his job. Colts Chargers, that's good. Colts are

(37:49):
getting one and a half against Chargers, Commanders Cowboys. Commanders
minus two and a half against Cowboys. Just some of
the games. As we slide into the weekend, courtesy of
the great folks Kings Hawaiian, go to the Bakery or
Delhi section of your local grocery store and pick up
a pack. Best Week in Sports? Is that what we're doing?

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Who had the bwis the best Week in sports?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Dand oh okay, Todd I'll let you go first, who
had the best week in sports.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
I'm gonna go recency bias after seeing the Dodgers go
up three games to nothing and a chance to sweep tonight,
the Los Angeles Dodgers, in particular pitching staff getting it
done against the Brewers.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, the starters have been unbelievable, all.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Right, Seaton, kind of obvious. I mean, he's been having
the best two years in sports. Really a Kurt Signetti
in Indiana football, they're just rolling right now.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
By the way, the Dodgers first team to allow one
run or less in four consecutive postseason games since the
nineteen ninety six Atlanta Braves.

Speaker 16 (38:49):
Stat of the day, stat of the day, that best
stat of the day, stat of the day, stat of
the day.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Best week in sports, Paul, I'm gonna go college football
fans in the state of Indiana. You got your coach
for the next few years, and it looks like you're
gonna have a good football program for a while. And
Indiana has never been able to say that. And I
think the Marcus Freeman rumors to Penn State have gone nowhere.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
I don't think he's even considering it.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Notre Dame football is in the best shape it's been
since the Lou Holtz era.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
So college football in the state.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, but we just throw out these names. I saw
where somebody said, maybe as Joel Klatt, that Penn State's
search should start with Nick Saban. Nick Saban doesn't want
to get back into what is college football now?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, he's going to the Cleveland Browns with
Arch Manning.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, that was another one that was rumors started like, oh,
he's gonna go to the Browns with Arch Manning. Well,
how's that going right now? Because Arch isn't leaving, isn't ready,
and Nick is doing great, He's doing fine. You know,
he doesn't wake up with a loss, you know, at
any point in you know, his college football season. Marvin
who had the best week in sport Recncy bias.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Also Joe Flacco unbelievable night last night off the couch,
forty one years old.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I see hot lets go.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
He doesn't seem flustered, he doesn't seem bothered by anything
that you never know if he's winning or losing. Here
is Joe Flacco on having the opportunity to play with
these great receivers in Cincinnati.

Speaker 17 (40:21):
Just with the simple things, not the fact that they
went for eight hundred yards obviously, but you could see it.
And then today what I got to see was just
how a defense has to treat those guys and if
you don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you.
And if you do treat him a certain way, well
maybe we have some other guys that can get.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
The job done.

Speaker 17 (40:39):
So today I think I got to see just the
problems they create in general. Last week I said it
earlier this week. Last week we didn't do anything crazy,
but you could see those guys are different, and it's
pretty cool to be the thrown well.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Having Jamar Chase, I think I could complete a couple passes,
I do. I think he's that good. He had sixteen
recess so I think he was targeted twenty three times. Like,
at what point do the Steelers defense go, I think
they're going to throw the ball to Jamar Chase, we
should cover him?

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Yes, paulin Flacco in Spanish means skinny, Flacco in Italian
means flaccid or weak.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Wow, back to you, dad, just throwing that in there.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Have you had a Flacco kind of day? Todd?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, I feel bad that's the Quinn thing and the
Gullic thing.

Speaker 14 (41:25):
I know you guys, I'm sure will remind me to
make sure I don't feel better at a time it's
not on us.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Thank you, Tom,
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