July 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Hall of Fame P John Smoltz drops by after broadcasting last night’s MLB All-Star Game. And Fanatics founder and CEO, Michael Rubin joins the show to talk about how he built his empire.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and The Dan Nz Dan Patrick Show.
John Smoltz on the call of the All Star Game
last night. Smoltze Will Joint is coming up here shortly,
as will The founder of Fanatics, Michael Rubin, used to
own the seventy six Ers and also the New Jersey Devils.
Speaking of the seventy six Ers, Should Joe Ellenbiid be
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playing in the Olympics now, I'm not talking about for
the team USA. He's from Cameroon, but he grew up
here in the United States, so it's not that he
has every right to play for his country play for
the United States. Probably has dual citizenship. I think he
has a French passport. But I don't think he's healthy
right now. I don't think he looks healthy right now.
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And they had him out there. He fouled out in
about twelve minutes. You get five fouls, and this was
a couple of games ago, and I just go, I
don't know if he's great, great shape right now.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know if he should. It's sort of what
I saw with Kawhi Leonard. Should you be out there,
and I'm watching Joe el Embiid and I just I
don't know if he should be out there.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, And if you're a Sixers fan or
Sixers general manager or whatever, he was hobbled during the
next series in the first round of the playoffs, yes,
I will.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You're playing real hard.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
For Team USA.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You should probably be getting healthy, especially since Paul George
is coming in. There's some real expectations. Well, you guys
this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, you know, he was playing with one good eye
and one good leg in that series, and I just
I watched him. He doesn't look comfortable out there. But
Kevin Durant don't know if he's gonna play. Does Jalen
Brown get added to the roster?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know what we can do, Caitlin Clark can go
to Team USA with the men's team, all right, yeah, yeah,
I'll make a spot for That'll solve all the problems there, right,
Team USA versus Serbia today and Team USA favored by
I think fifteen and a half fifteen and a half
with Serbia.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yes, Pom, is there a point I know the question
answer that your team has to be locked, Like let's
say Joel Embiid rolled as ankle was gonna be out
for four to six weeks today. Can we get a
sub from America and send them over now, I know
Derek White just went over.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know when it's officially official with your roster or.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do you have to have sometime maybe alternate list and
it's right up into the day of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We're gonna check, well, Caitlin Clark is an alternate right now?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Right well, what would be the last day she was
eligible would be the day before the Olympics would be real.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We'll check.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
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Our radio affiliates as well. We'll come up with a
poll question for hour or two. We make way for
the Hall of Famer John Smoltz, who was on the
call MLB on Fox last night. How you feeling, John.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Early morning back in Atlanta. I'm doing okay, I'm doing
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What was your expectation last night going into that game,
starting with Paul's schemes.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, I was excited to see him live for the
first time I've watched him on film. Pittsburgh has probably
the best picture they've ever had in a draft, and
we all know they've had a lot of pictures. There's
a lot of pictures in the rest of Major League
Baseball that used to be with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and
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hopefully they can do something to keep him and do
something to get in the postseason. Because I don't say
this very often about people, but he could throw all
four scene fastballs in a game. If let's just say that,
he couldn't throw anything but a fastball, and he could
win a lot of big big league baseball games. There's
not many people. There's a handful of people that can
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do that. Jacob Degram is one of them. You know.
I said that I wouldn't get caught up in the
Stephen Strassburg hysteria when I did his debut for the
MLB Network, and I got caught up in it. It
was electric, and I think this young man has the
same capabilities. Now, my biggest wish and hope is that
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he stays healthy. But can you imagine, you know, Pittsburgh
hasn't been relevant for a while, and that's a team
you don't want to play in a wild card scenario
if they were to get in with their young pitching.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But John, how does he avoid not getting hurt? I mean,
your arm is built to only be able to do
so many things at so many angles for such a
you know, a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, the one thing I like about him is he
does a lot of good things in his mechanics. Now,
everybody to your right, you're one hundred percent right. One
hundred miles an hour is not normal. But you know,
he's got a big frame, six foot six. I actually
loved that he was throwing a football before his game.
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I think those are one of the look we haven't
We have not even come close to perfecting how to
keep pitchers healthy. Matter of fact, I could do a
whole show on it, and nobody talks about it because
they just realized people are going to get hurt. And
it's a financial model that analytics is running their whole
grid on. But what I hope we don't do is
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just be so obsessed with, you know, amount of pitches
or the amount of innings. You've got to let your eyes.
You've got to be able to watch a guy. If
he's not having a lot of stress, if he's repeating
as mechanics, a lot of good things can happen. And
you know, he's big, he's strong, And I'm hoping. I'm
crossing my fingers because i know the rhetoric out there is, well,
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when's the date going to be? You know that he
has Tommy John, which drives me crazy. So I'm hopeful
that he'll be He'll be pitching for a while.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we've accepted Tommy John is if that comes along
with the position. I mentioned a story a physical therapist
that I work with. He works with major leaguers, and
he had two separate situations where parents of their son
and they were both teenagers, they wanted to have Tommy
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John surgery before they needed Tommy John surgery. And it's
gotten crazy John that you go in and it's basically
you know, your fifty thousand mile check up with your car,
or it's like Yep, you're gonna need Tommy John. All right,
we'll see you in a year. How did we get here?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, well, it's the best and worst thing that's ever
happened to this sport. I think we're approaching the fifty
year anniversary of Tommy John, and you know I it
was so important to me that I spent time in
my Hall of Fame speech to try to address this matter.
And since then, nobody's paying attention. Doctors have tried their
best to disprove all these different myths that are out
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there about to Tommy John surgery. It was never intended
to twelve year old, sixteen year olds, eighteen year olds. Never.
And that's to your point. It is a byproduct of
I call it a hypnotism, of people just talking about
something so much that you end up believing it. And
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if you talk about it enough, even though it's not true,
you'll just buy into the narrative. And that's one of
the narratives that is an absolute worst case scenario. Oh
you'll be fine. Look at this guy. Look at John Small,
look at this guy. It's so false. But yet people
have had enough evidence of the elite pitchers coming back
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from it that they think it's like a band aid,
and you know, I speak to it every time I can,
and I think, you know, it just goes over people's heads.
And as I said, as I've watched more baseball, I'm
approaching watching more baseball than I did playing it. I
just hate to see these young players in the big leagues. Look,
there will be another Tommy Zahn recipient that goes into
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the Hall of Fame. But when I made this statement
that they're there, won't be because I saw this epidemic
and people are having two of them and three of
them in the big leagues. Just think about that that
that one is one is bad enough and one should
save your career. Two should not be. More of the
conversation we're talking about. And so the reason there will
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be another Tommy Zahn recipient in the Hall of Fame
is because there's going to be so many of them
that so sooner or later, you're going to get one
of those that has had the career long enough to
be able to this was supposed to be later in
your career, not to start your career. And here's the
other thing. There hasn't been many pitchers that have lasted
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more than seven years to date on a Tommy John recovery.
And that's the one thing that we will have to
see as it plays out, if that becomes some of
the benchmarks for the length that it takes Tommy John
before they have another one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
He's John Smoltz, a Hall of Famer, on the call
for the All Star Game last night. Then he had
Mason Miller come in fifth inning. John, he was throwing
almost one oh four.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I mean they've mastered Look again, it's a definition
of insanity. They've mastered the ability to throw hard, there's
no doubt about it, but they have not even come
close to be able to match the help with it.
And hitting is way beyond the ability to match this
velocity that they're teaching. You have to sacrifice something to
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throw that hard, and we all know what that is.
That's sacrificing length of your career and sacrificing command. But
when you see a young man that looks pretty effortless
throwing the ball the way he does, all I can
think of because it is the Oakland A's and they
are notorious for trading these kind of players for a
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plan that nobody is able to figure out. Yet the
amount of players that normally a closer would demand is
not that high. He could demand a pretty good package
if they decide to trade him to a contending team.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But what he's gone, he's going to be good. He's
going to be traded. You know, they're just I.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Mean, that's just the guy that Oakland usually has.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You face a lot of great players, you face Bonds
and Maguire, and we can run down the list here.
But when Otani comes to the plate, who's he remind
you of?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, that's a great question. It's not quite Verry Bonds.
Of course, Barry Bonds never missed a pitch in his heyday.
He just he didn't get many to hit, and when
he got them, he obliterated him. It's kind of a combination,
maybe even a hybrid, between a Helton and a Bonds.
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Helton was one of the best peer hitters. I know
everyone's going to say he played a lot of it
in Colorado, but that the swing path and the way
that they get to a baseball is similar, and I'm
just enamored with the power. Look, Otani has holes, there's
no doubt, but he's sued them up. You know, he's
only had to concentrate on hitting this year. Imagine you know,
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the guy has had a break from pitching, and his
power is just so raw, and he goes through little
streaks where you're like a Bond's where you're not getting
the ball buy him. And then there's times where you
can get that down and in up and in type quadrant.
But what an incredible first year of a monster contract
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that we hope he's going to pitch the majority of
that contract and play or and hit at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Let's get to the serious topic, the All Star Game uniforms. Yeah,
what do you think? How would you feel wearing that?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Be honest with you. First thing I said, when I
got to the National League side, they got the better draw.
There's no doubt they got the better draw of the uniforms.
I just I saw Bruce Botchie in that uniform and
I'm like, vote and you can just see him. I
don't know, man, it has.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Been but it's an easy pick.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But he thinks that it is an easy fix. I
think that's going to be next year in Atlanta. The
rumor is, I think that's going to be back to
wearing the jersey tops of your team. Somebody thought it
was great. So so they you know, it's like, look,
I mean we all get get dressed and get in
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the mirror and we're like, man, this is a great outfit.
And then somebody sees us and goes, did you get
dressed in the dark? So yeah, that's that was. That
was I was. I thought they were when I first
saw them. I thought it was the VP, you know,
kind of like the batting practice. You just go out
there and yeah, change into something. But no, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
How many All Star Games?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Eight? Eight? Yeah, and I was. I got in six
of them, and I had the great, great timing of
giving up two runs and getting two losses. Those are
only two runs I came up, I got two losses.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay, would you rather get in and get the loss
or not get in an All Star Game?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Probably get in and get the loss. You know. I
was fortunate enough to get one win in ninety six,
But there was there was the craziest scenario in Chicago
when I was closing, and I was going to close
out that game, and I had two of the greatest
doing their jobs in Wagner and Ganye pitched the seventh
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the eighth, and I was going to pitch the ninth
we had a four or five run lead, So that's
a one hundred percent guarantee that I'm going to pitch.
And what unfolded in the seventh and eighth inning. Ganya
had never given up a run yet alone blown to
save that year, and both of them ended up giving
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up some runs, and I was sitting down there, you know,
didn't get in. So that was one of them. But yeah,
I'd rather probably participate, even if it's you know, given
up giving up a run to to lose the game.
The first one I gave up. I was the youngest
player to ever get the loss in eighty nine, and
Roland Ryan was the oldest player to ever get the win.
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So I got that going for me.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Congratulations, Joe, he's the Hall of Famer. Good to talk
to you, John, Thanks for joining us as always. Right
same here, Dan, that's John Smoltz on the call last night.
Leave it to me. Let's talk about the negatives of
your Hall of Fame career. Michael Rubin, he is the
founder of Fanatics CEO. Speaking of uniforms, we'll talk to
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him about the uniforms Fanatics. Are they making these uniforms?
I'd like to what's the role that Fanatics has in
these uniforms? Are they selling the uniforms? Does Nike make
the uniform That.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Was a big deal before the season because Fanatics is
selling them, but not necessarily creating, and they or you know,
Nike was involved. Fanatics is involved in MLB's involved.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Tory Lavello, also the nationally gold Star Miniager, will join
us a little later on as well. We're back after
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
He is the founder of Fanatics CEO. They Got Something
Special taking place in New York City August sixteenth through
the eighteenth the Javid Center, and fans have a chance
to meet sports heroes. There's a rare cards, memorabile limited
edition merge, and a lot of interactive experiences. As we
welcome in Michael Rubin, Michael, thank you for joining us.
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I can imagine what your business card reads, but when
you explain to somebody this is what my job is,
how would you do that?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
First?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
How are you doing great? To be with you today? Second,
I'd say I got the greatest job on the plan.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
I get to work around one hundred million plus incredible
sports fans, most passionate fans in the world, thousands of athletes,
and you know, it's the it's kind of a it's
when you're a kid you dream of doing something. If
you're not athletic like me, and you actually suck at sports,
then you know you love an opportunity to work around
sports and do what I do and kind of help
build kind of the digital sports ecosystem.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So I don't have business cards by the way.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
I haven't had business cards for probably fifteen years, so
that's the good thing.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
So but I'm honored to lead Fanatics.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
And really excited to talk about everything we're doing with
the Fanatics Fest as well, which can be like a
never been done, first of a kind sports festival going
on in New York City August sixteenth or eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
But you were in the repurpose business when you start
her down right, when you were.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Long ago, When I was a child, about thirty five
years ago, I actually was in the visit of buying
and selling close out skis and close out but where
that's where I got my big start from. I was,
you know, I started with ski shops when I was
a teenager, opened my first one when I was fourteen,
had five by the time I graduate.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
High school, nearly went bankrupt a few times, and I went.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
When I nearly went bankrupt once I learned about buying
excess merchandise at very diskound of price, and that got
me into the close up business.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But just going through the bankruptcy, like, how does that
impact you? Like you never want to go through that,
But what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
It was a blast I had when I was sixteen
years old. I tell this story all the time. This
is not an exaggeration or embellishment in any way. I
got sued probably one hundred times as a sixteen year old.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
The sheriff used to show up before I went to
high school.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Each day she comes. She I'm at like seventh and
I was stild at home. She's like, here at today's lawsuits.
I give her a hug, she said, hi, and she
give me the day's lawsuits. But you know what it
teaches you. It teaches you that each failures to turn
into your next success. And so for me, having almost
gone bankrupt and then figure out how to settle my
desk because I wasn't even old enough to incur a debt,
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that taught me about how do I turn that into
my next success? And honestly, about a few months later,
I found a ski shop that had two hundred thousand
dollars merchandise to get auctioned off for thirteen thousand dollars,
and I bought it. And that got me in the
business buying selling clothes out. So to me, any entrepreneur
who tells you they haven't had lots of failures in
their life, I think they're full of it. And you
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got to take those failures and learn from them and
have them make you a better person. Just you know,
learn from all your mistakes is what I do every day.
I make lots of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What do you miss about being an owner? You own
the seventy six ers in the New Jersey Devils. What's
the one thing?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Well, what I missed was I never got to help
bring a championship to Philadelphia. And I think when you
own a sport, which see you have one job, and
one job only had to win a championship for your city.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
And we failed.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
We never did that when I was with the Philadelphia
six Ers. Look, I you know, I'm so fortunate to
work around all these sports teams and the leagues and
the players and the players associations. So like the reason
for me was as fanatas kept getting bigger, we grew
just merchandise where we started to having a fast grown
sports betting business, a fanatic sportsbook, to have the trading
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card business.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
With tops and all these direct relationships with athletes.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
You can't do deals directly with athletes when you own
a team, and you can't take bets on your own team,
And so kind of made it impossible for me. So
it was a great one hundred probuge to be part
of the Sixers organization, and you know, it was time
for me to move on and put all of my
effort into building Fanatics.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He's Mike Rubin, the Fanatics founder and CEO. Give me
the celebrity you met first time you met, and maybe
you were out of sorts, maybe you weren't quite sure
what to say or not say.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Well, I've got a lot of things that suck out,
a lot of weaknesses. Being shorter words is not one
of them. So I can't think of the time ever
that I was shorter of words. Maybe I spoke too
much or said too much, but I don't know. You know, look,
if you grow up working in the business the way
I do, you're in the sports business.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Like I've been around this my whole life, it's kind
of just, you know, it's kind of what I do.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
So I don't think it's you just get used to it,
and as we get bigger, the people you work around
get bigger. But it's not something that I've ever been
uncomfortable with. I have more for me. I have so
many questions that I want to learn from people I
have so many things I want to absorb from people.
So for me, it's about how can I learn from
the people that are around me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I don't know what you can see. I have an
ultimate man cave here, but.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Your crusher, you're like the model Fanatics customer. I see
so many different pieces of memorabilia, so many cool things
in your office.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I was taking note of it all.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I don't know what. I don't know what thing or
things are worth. I know a lot of that is
what is it worth to you personally? But like I
have assigned Kobe Allstar jersey where he calls me the Mamba,
but it's to me so like it's personalized. A lot
of guys personalized autographs. Now what's that do to the
value of that merchandise?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah, well that's an incredibly valuable jersey and but more importantly,
it's probably an.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Incredibly valuable memory for you.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Look our business, we have you know, pretty you know,
we own tops are pretty big trading card business that's
really driven by rookies and driven by moments in sports.
We have a big memorabilia business as well. I'll tell
you what I keep trying to do is learn from
the art market and take the learnings we have an
art and bring them to memorability and trading cards. Because
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if you think about the way great artists sell art,
you could take so many learnings from that and use
that to build the memorabilia business and trading card business.
And I think you see that in the way we're
creating scarcity with tops. A lot of the marketing and
a lot of the building we're doing are taking things
that we learned from the art market and building.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Explain that, though, Michael, what what what is the art
business doing that equates to what we're doing in memorabilia.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Well, first of all, art is a you know, there
are hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars of
art owned. It's an enormous uh industry with you know,
just incredible asset values. You know, I'll give you an example.
I remember hosting dinner at my house maybe a year
or two ago, and Jonas Wood, who's a you know,
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well known artist who's done a lot of pieces of
sports art. We're talking about how he goes to market
and the way he'll you know, show the art first,
build a lot of demand for it, and then he
sells you know, you know, kind of one piece of
a time that because I want to make this piece
of incredibly valuable. First, an athlete generally keeps all the memorabilia,
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and then they need money, and then that memorabially starts
being sold in bulk, and you kind of hurt your
own market. So, you know, one learning I guys, just
how do you market memorabilia.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
And do it in a smart way.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I think if you copy the art market, you're going
to create a lot more value versus you flooded the market.
That's just one example I took from that dinner I
had with.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Jonas would what role did fanatics play in Major League
Baseball's uniforms and what role will you play can you
play moving forward?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Look, I think anytime anything goes wrong for a player
or a fan and we have any part of it,
we feel some responsibility.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Certainly.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I think it's well known at this point that you know,
we've been making the jerseys for you know, eight years
in the factory that we own, and the factory that
we own has been making the jerseys for more than
twenty years. I think both Fanatics and Nike each want
to innovate as much as they can. I think this
particularly a case Nike want to innovate the jersey and
not everything work the way they want it. By the way,
we've had the same thing happened with us when not
everything that we want to innovate works the way we want.
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The good thing is we listen to players, we listen
to fans, and now we're going back to the bigger letters,
the bigger numbers, the tailor pants, and fans are excited.
So that's the great thing about sports fans. They're super passionate.
They got When you do well, they're gonna tell you
did well. When you do poorly, they're going to speak.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Loud, and I like that. That's what makes us a
better company.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I think we got to go back to the players
wearing their jerseys at least the tops in the All
Star Game because there were thirty two first time All
Star players. Michael, we need branding like you're not just
an All Star. I want to equate that, Oh you're
with the Guardians. You know not everybody everybody knows show. Hey,
everybody knows Aaron Judge. But if you're selling baseball, you
(26:26):
got to sell more than just you know, the tree
top here with the stars.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Look, I think you could say in several sports, maybe
other than the NBA, that marketing the stars is a
big opportunity.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
And for us, what I always.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Say is I wouldn't have the privilege of working twenty
two thousand incredible team members every day that I work
with and leading facts if it wasn't for the incredible
players do what they do on the field, on the ice,
on the court.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And I think marketing of these players is so important.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
We spend a lot of energy and thought, money and
marketing and by the way, that's honestly what came to
the idea of how.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
We created Fanatics Fest.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Like I, you know, I grew up a collector, Like
I grew up going to you know, different collecting shows,
and then when we bought Tops and One a lot
of the rights to the trading cards industry, I went
to the National Trading Card Show in Atlantic City three
years ago and I had like two reactions. One was,
I couldn't believe there were more than one hundred thousand
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incredibly passionate collectors this show, and I was like so
excited by that. The second thing was I was like this,
this hasn't changed a lot since when I was in
high school. You know, I don't want to say how
long ago I was in high school.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
I was in high school and went to these trading
card shows and that gave us the idea to create
fanatics fest. Now, how do we bring all these star
athletes together to showcase them, how do we let them
connect better to their fans?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
And what we're going to do?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
All the sixties to eighteenth that the Japson in New
York City. No one's ever tried this in sports. And
do you think about this? You have in all the
other industries, right, you have comic Con. Have you ever
been to comic Coon?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I have done?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Okay, when you go.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
To comic Con, you'd be like, this is crazy, hundreds
of thousands of people dressed in their favorite character. You
go to music festivals like I go to Coachella every year,
or you go to south By Southwest, and you see
incredibly passionate fan bases within an industry.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Sports there's nothing like that.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
So, like I've been to you know, the Super Bowl,
the NBAL Star Game, Major League, you know, Baseball Star Game.
You look at say, they all do these fan festival.
Why can't we create one event. We have the best
athletes in the world to come through and we're doing this.
By the way, we got like Stephen A. Smith interviewing
Tom Brady, and we've got you know, Big Poppy interviewing
Derek Jutter, And we've got Eli and Peyton Manning, and
we've got Kevin Durant coming, We've got Anthony Edwards. You
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have two hundred of the greatest athletes in the world
coming for three days to celebrate and create this kind
of sports festival, which when it works, I want to
do this everyone in the world. Like I want to
create the greatest sports festival in the world. And so
I couldn't be more about all the leagues will come
and you'll be able to run the forty yard Dasherman.
I can't do that because I'm very uncoordinating, can't run
very fast. But you're each league will have an activation there.
(28:55):
So it's kind of taking the best of all the
sports leagues, the teams, the athletes collect in all one
place and kind of create the ultimate sports festival.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
So like, that's about marketing stars.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And if you want to have somebody who can do
really good interviews, let me know next time. I'll be available.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You know, we got to get and by the way,
we want you.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
We got to get you in there.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Let's let's let let's go.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
This is really about bringing everyone together and we're doing
we have We have so many different people just creating
great content.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
So we need you. That's your call out. You just
commit it.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
By the way, what's the web what's the website or
is there? How do people get information?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Yeah, you go to Fanaticsfest dot com. They'll tell you
about all the different athletes we have. We keep adding
people every single day and they'll tell you about all
the different activities you can do.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
But this will be a one of a kind of
sports festival.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
If you live anywhere near New York City, whether it's Pennsylvania, Washington,
to see Boston, if you like sports, this will be
something that you can never do except the Fanatics Fest.
So check out the site. You know, we can't wait
to host you. I got one goal. I want every
sports fan to come through there and say, like, this
is the most fun I've ever had, you know, just
as they got to do so many different things in sports,
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and we had a lot of surprises plan for people.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
If there's one thing I'm not bad at it's throwing parties.
This canna be Alba party.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
The NHL on ice uniforms, that's next season.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
No watches this season. We unveiled them at the draft
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
The reception was spectacular and you know, really what we learned,
it's you know, we took so much input from the players,
so much input from the equipment managers. Well, they told
us they loved the jury they have, but they didn't
really like the dimples. They needed some reinforcement in the sleeves.
We basically just enhanced the existing jersey and the reception
was ten out of ten.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Perfect, awesome or you're a busy man. Good luck with
this coming up next month. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Michael, Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I'm
gonna see it from as Fest.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's Michael Rubin, fanatics founder and CEO. A lot of
energy there. Got Steve and A asking the questions. All right,
he wants to upgrade next time, Then we'll upgrade and
I'll see if I can make myself available. Just joking
steven A.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
However, uh yeah, you're as a dad of a teenager,
I don't feel so bad if my kid gets in trouble,
like there's not supenis at my house.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
She hasn't. Yeah, she hasn't been bankrupt or people suing
her yet at the same age that he was being sued.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
It's a good story.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah. Let me see Doug in North Carolina. Good morning, Doug.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Well, dad, I have two boat names for you. But
before I give you those, it's just a little bit
of history. Walter Cronkite was a famous salesman. I guess
he's not salesman, but he owned a sailboat and he
called it. He had one that was called assignmon So
is still an anchor? Could say Walter's on assignment today?
But for you, how about Keith Oberboard or simply sports anchor?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Ooh sports and then anchor? Okay, all right, Doug, I
write that one down leader in the clubhouse? Is is it?
Mother ship? What was the other one that we got
that was great? Somebody's supposed to be writing these things down. Yeah,
I got a whole list of them right here. There
were two different versions of these nuts. Now these nuts,
(32:11):
these nuts, no, no, these knots. Somebody had one earlier
today section row C. See that's really good.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Nice's real nice. I like that sports anchor. I like
we had the D D C S E S E
A very nice. Yeah, stay in your shipping lane. That's
pretty funny, pretty funny, Jenny. Oh, sorry, that one's off
the list. I know my brother got a big kick
out of Jenny Bochie. I said, don't encourage them, Dave No.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think that's funny, Jenny Bouchie, because my brother well
versed in the Batchy family, the Lord, the daughters, yes plural, yes,
all right, Well, if you have a name for my
pun tune, vote, you can email, you can tweet, you
can dialos up. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (33:15):
Michael Rubin pretty meteoric rhymese there. When you're selling ski equipment,
you're bankrupt, you're being served papers, being sued, and all
of a sudden you're worth a few billion dollars. And
then he has this white party where he just had
this in the Hamptons and everybody who was anybody was there,
(33:38):
even the Kardashians were there, probably jay Z and Beyonce, Like,
it's one of those that I could say that I
was there, and then people might say, oh, how was it,
instead of thing you weren't invited in to the White Party,
I could just say that I was, But then did
you get any pictures?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I didn't want to do that to the other celebri there.
We don't do that. No, no, no, no, we don't.
Oh my god, jay Z, will you stop wanting to
get a picture? Hi, Kim Hi Chloe.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I thought it was a nice reverse psychology move by
you to not ask.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, most people make that mistake, like I didn't get
my invite. No, we don't do that. We don't do that.
We have to get invited to the fantasy. Yeah, of course, No,
I just no. I wanted to interview Tom Brady.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
Like.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
If if you want somebody who's going to ask great questions,
then you have me. If you want a popular person
on stage, then you have Steven A.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
There's a difference. I asked questions for a living Let
me see Michael and fort Wayne him. Michael, how are
you hey.
Speaker 12 (34:53):
Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Two quick
thanks for you starting with a small boost to Marvin's day.
I watched a couple episodes of The Receiver by your
recommendation last night, and upon first glance thought he bore
a slight resemblance to Debo Samuel.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Marvin and Devo Samuel. Okay, obviously we're best friend. Well, yes,
the super Bowl in Arizona. You two really hit it off,
great chemistry. Yeah, what else, Michael?
Speaker 13 (35:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Secondly, a boat name for you, a nod to the
late Stuart Scott, who, like you, was a big part
of my childhood in the morning booie.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, uh, Brian in Baltimore. Hi, Brian in Baltimore.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Hey Dan and Danet's Brian in Baltimore and sixty three
two oh three, And just got a quick boat name
for you. How about going, Going Gone?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, that's probably not a good sign for a boat,
you know, don't want it have that sinking feeling. Sports
anchor is pretty good, mothership is pretty good.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, somebody just sent in a great one high cheese
instead of I H cheese is very funny.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
How about here's one instead of Bayeau.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I looked up a list of the most common boat
names of people give their boats a lot of times
to play on retirement, you know, things like that. But Aquaholic,
Happy Hour, Seize the Day, sea s not on Call,
can o t carpaid DM is very popular about time,
those are the most popular. They did a study of
(36:45):
registered boats.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Aquaholic, Aquaholic, Okay, Bob and Missouri? Hi, Bob, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Damn?
Speaker 14 (36:54):
How you guys doing the damn that. I'm glad this
first time long time from the very beginning six one
three plus, Hey, I have the name for you since
your show is so zany and crazy and you do
(37:17):
off the wall stuff and I love it. How about
looney tunes?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Okay, Looney tunes?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
M Don, what's the play on? Like boats in the
sea and.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm not quite sure, not quite sure.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It's like he tanked that call.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, that's all boats. Okay, that's all boats. Kyle and Charleston.
Hey Kyle, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Dan, how's it going? The first time? Long time?
Speaker 13 (38:04):
Five ten? I heard Marvin saying that it was on
his bucket list to go to an SEC football game,
and I'd like to extend the invite to any South
Carolina game cox game of his choice. We'll cover the
tickets and the once in a lifetime til getting experience.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Marvin, are you interested in going to see the game Cocks?
Speaker 13 (38:29):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
No that I'm gonna try it again, because that's not
how you start your answer.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, no, no, this is a This was a pathetic way
for me asking for any hookup for the Georgia Alabama game.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
It's Uscaloosa, Yeah, Paul, Marvin, I think you have to
wean yourself up to it. You have to go to
like a nice Kentucky you gotta graduate right then maybe
hit some Arkansas, then go to a nice Old Miss
afternoon game, and then you step up to like LSU
night games or Alabama Auburn.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
You got to ease up. You gotta work your way up.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Oh they never mind.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Then a long process.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Although I can hook you up with Darius Rucker because
he's got one of those this cabooses the train cars
and then they trick those out and it's a great
tailgate place. You do that and then you walk over
to the stadium. Jimmy in Indiana, Hi Jimmy, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Good morning?
Speaker 15 (39:22):
Dan six foot two hundred. Since I grew up in Indiana,
basketball was my first love, But like you, I really
enjoyed Big Red Machine. I grew up in that area. Okay,
you were talking about some pictures. I'm going to give
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you some stats about a picture from that era, and
I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to get it.
But these are kind of amazing. Seventeen year career, two
time Cy Young winner, two time MVP of the World's
over three thousand strikeouts and here's the kickers. Two hundred
(40:06):
and fifty five complete games. One season he had twenty
eight complete games. Yes, Fritzi, I said, twenty eight?
Speaker 14 (40:16):
Who is it?
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Bob Gibson Absolutely all right.
Speaker 15 (40:22):
How does someone do have that kind of longevity? You're
talking about Tommy Johns and stuff. How fast do you
think Bob Gibson threw the ball?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
He probably threw it in mid nineties. He threw hard.
What I loved about Bob Gibson is that he was
in control when he was on the mound, and by
that I mean he dictated if he was going to
throw inside it you he did, and nobody was going
to challenge Bob Gibson. He's one of the most intimidating
(40:52):
pitchers I ever saw. I couldn't imagine facing him, and
there are other guys who threw harder. It's just where
he threw his pitch and that is the inside part
of the plate that's mine. Nowadays it belongs to the
hitter with Bob Gibson. Nope, that's not the case. One
more hour to go. National League All Star manager Tory
(41:15):
Lavello will join us. More phone calls as well.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and The Dan Nz Dan Patrick Show.
John Smoltz on the call of the All Star Game
last night. Smoltze Will Joint is coming up here shortly,
as will The founder of Fanatics, Michael Rubin, used to
own the seventy six Ers and also the New Jersey Devils.
Speaking of the seventy six Ers, Should Joe Ellenbiid be
(00:27):
playing in the Olympics now, I'm not talking about for
the team USA. He's from Cameroon, but he grew up
here in the United States, so it's not that he
has every right to play for his country play for
the United States. Probably has dual citizenship. I think he
has a French passport. But I don't think he's healthy
right now. I don't think he looks healthy right now.
(00:48):
And they had him out there. He fouled out in
about twelve minutes. You get five fouls, and this was
a couple of games ago, and I just go, I
don't know if he's great, great shape right now.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know if he should. It's sort of what
I saw with Kawhi Leonard. Should you be out there,
and I'm watching Joe el Embiid and I just I
don't know if he should be out there.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, And if you're a Sixers fan or
Sixers general manager or whatever, he was hobbled during the
next series in the first round of the playoffs, yes,
I will.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You're playing real hard.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
For Team USA.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You should probably be getting healthy, especially since Paul George
is coming in. There's some real expectations. Well, you guys
this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, you know, he was playing with one good eye
and one good leg in that series, and I just
I watched him. He doesn't look comfortable out there. But
Kevin Durant don't know if he's gonna play. Does Jalen
Brown get added to the roster?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know what we can do, Caitlin Clark can go
to Team USA with the men's team, all right, yeah, yeah,
I'll make a spot for That'll solve all the problems there, right,
Team USA versus Serbia today and Team USA favored by
I think fifteen and a half fifteen and a half
with Serbia.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yes, Pom, is there a point I know the question
answer that your team has to be locked, Like let's
say Joel Embiid rolled as ankle was gonna be out
for four to six weeks today. Can we get a
sub from America and send them over now, I know
Derek White just went over.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know when it's officially official with your roster or.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do you have to have sometime maybe alternate list and
it's right up into the day of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We're gonna check, well, Caitlin Clark is an alternate right now?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Right well, what would be the last day she was
eligible would be the day before the Olympics would be real.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We'll check.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
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I should say the course played me. I played there,
but the wind and there are times when you're on
the tee and you look out and you go, where
am I hitting it to and you know that's where
you have a local caddy'll say, you know, he'll he'll
give you a sight line like aim for that because
(03:21):
you're out there and you're going, I have no idea
where I'm going, where I'm hitting it to. And then
you have the postage stamp that's one hundred and twenty
yards and it looks like it is that looks like, well,
worst case scenario, get a par you go up there
to the left side of the green. They have a
coffin bunker that looks like that's where you put a coffin.
(03:42):
They dug it out just in case somebody dies on
the course. You can get buried there and it would
look like it would fit a casket there. That's but
it's you know, wonderful. It's on the water. But the
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Our radio affiliates as well. We'll come up with a
poll question for hour or two. We make way for
the Hall of Famer John Smoltz, who was on the
call MLB on Fox last night. How you feeling, John.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Early morning back in Atlanta. I'm doing okay, I'm doing
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What was your expectation last night going into that game,
starting with Paul's schemes.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, I was excited to see him live for the
first time I've watched him on film. Pittsburgh has probably
the best picture they've ever had in a draft, and
we all know they've had a lot of pictures. There's
a lot of pictures in the rest of Major League
Baseball that used to be with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and
(04:55):
hopefully they can do something to keep him and do
something to get in the postseason. Because I don't say
this very often about people, but he could throw all
four scene fastballs in a game. If let's just say that,
he couldn't throw anything but a fastball, and he could
win a lot of big big league baseball games. There's
not many people. There's a handful of people that can
(05:17):
do that. Jacob Degram is one of them. You know.
I said that I wouldn't get caught up in the
Stephen Strassburg hysteria when I did his debut for the
MLB Network, and I got caught up in it. It
was electric, and I think this young man has the
same capabilities. Now, my biggest wish and hope is that
(05:41):
he stays healthy. But can you imagine, you know, Pittsburgh
hasn't been relevant for a while, and that's a team
you don't want to play in a wild card scenario
if they were to get in with their young pitching.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But John, how does he avoid not getting hurt? I mean,
your arm is built to only be able to do
so many things at so many angles for such a
you know, a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, the one thing I like about him is he
does a lot of good things in his mechanics. Now,
everybody to your right, you're one hundred percent right. One
hundred miles an hour is not normal. But you know,
he's got a big frame, six foot six. I actually
loved that he was throwing a football before his game.
(06:27):
I think those are one of the look we haven't
We have not even come close to perfecting how to
keep pitchers healthy. Matter of fact, I could do a
whole show on it, and nobody talks about it because
they just realized people are going to get hurt. And
it's a financial model that analytics is running their whole
grid on. But what I hope we don't do is
(06:51):
just be so obsessed with, you know, amount of pitches
or the amount of innings. You've got to let your eyes.
You've got to be able to watch a guy. If
he's not having a lot of stress, if he's repeating
as mechanics, a lot of good things can happen. And
you know, he's big, he's strong, And I'm hoping. I'm
crossing my fingers because i know the rhetoric out there is, well,
(07:13):
when's the date going to be? You know that he
has Tommy John, which drives me crazy. So I'm hopeful
that he'll be He'll be pitching for a while.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we've accepted Tommy John is if that comes along
with the position. I mentioned a story a physical therapist
that I work with. He works with major leaguers, and
he had two separate situations where parents of their son
and they were both teenagers, they wanted to have Tommy
(07:47):
John surgery before they needed Tommy John surgery. And it's
gotten crazy John that you go in and it's basically
you know, your fifty thousand mile check up with your car,
or it's like Yep, you're gonna need Tommy John. All right,
we'll see you in a year. How did we get here?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, well, it's the best and worst thing that's ever
happened to this sport. I think we're approaching the fifty
year anniversary of Tommy John, and you know I it
was so important to me that I spent time in
my Hall of Fame speech to try to address this matter.
And since then, nobody's paying attention. Doctors have tried their
best to disprove all these different myths that are out
(08:28):
there about to Tommy John surgery. It was never intended
to twelve year old, sixteen year olds, eighteen year olds. Never.
And that's to your point. It is a byproduct of
I call it a hypnotism, of people just talking about
something so much that you end up believing it. And
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if you talk about it enough, even though it's not true,
you'll just buy into the narrative. And that's one of
the narratives that is an absolute worst case scenario. Oh
you'll be fine. Look at this guy. Look at John Small,
look at this guy. It's so false. But yet people
have had enough evidence of the elite pitchers coming back
(09:09):
from it that they think it's like a band aid,
and you know, I speak to it every time I can,
and I think, you know, it just goes over people's heads.
And as I said, as I've watched more baseball, I'm
approaching watching more baseball than I did playing it. I
just hate to see these young players in the big leagues. Look,
there will be another Tommy Zahn recipient that goes into
(09:31):
the Hall of Fame. But when I made this statement
that they're there, won't be because I saw this epidemic
and people are having two of them and three of
them in the big leagues. Just think about that that
that one is one is bad enough and one should
save your career. Two should not be. More of the
conversation we're talking about. And so the reason there will
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be another Tommy Zahn recipient in the Hall of Fame
is because there's going to be so many of them
that so sooner or later, you're going to get one
of those that has had the career long enough to
be able to this was supposed to be later in
your career, not to start your career. And here's the
other thing. There hasn't been many pitchers that have lasted
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more than seven years to date on a Tommy John recovery.
And that's the one thing that we will have to
see as it plays out, if that becomes some of
the benchmarks for the length that it takes Tommy John
before they have another one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
He's John Smoltz, a Hall of Famer, on the call
for the All Star Game last night. Then he had
Mason Miller come in fifth inning. John, he was throwing
almost one oh four.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I mean they've mastered Look again, it's a definition
of insanity. They've mastered the ability to throw hard, there's
no doubt about it, but they have not even come
close to be able to match the help with it.
And hitting is way beyond the ability to match this
velocity that they're teaching. You have to sacrifice something to
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throw that hard, and we all know what that is.
That's sacrificing length of your career and sacrificing command. But
when you see a young man that looks pretty effortless
throwing the ball the way he does, all I can
think of because it is the Oakland A's and they
are notorious for trading these kind of players for a
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plan that nobody is able to figure out. Yet the
amount of players that normally a closer would demand is
not that high. He could demand a pretty good package
if they decide to trade him to a contending team.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But what he's gone, he's going to be good. He's
going to be traded. You know, they're just I.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Mean, that's just the guy that Oakland usually has.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You face a lot of great players, you face Bonds
and Maguire, and we can run down the list here.
But when Otani comes to the plate, who's he remind
you of?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, that's a great question. It's not quite Verry Bonds.
Of course, Barry Bonds never missed a pitch in his heyday.
He just he didn't get many to hit, and when
he got them, he obliterated him. It's kind of a combination,
maybe even a hybrid, between a Helton and a Bonds.
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Helton was one of the best peer hitters. I know
everyone's going to say he played a lot of it
in Colorado, but that the swing path and the way
that they get to a baseball is similar, and I'm
just enamored with the power. Look, Otani has holes, there's
no doubt, but he's sued them up. You know, he's
only had to concentrate on hitting this year. Imagine you know,
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the guy has had a break from pitching, and his
power is just so raw, and he goes through little
streaks where you're like a Bond's where you're not getting
the ball buy him. And then there's times where you
can get that down and in up and in type quadrant.
But what an incredible first year of a monster contract
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that we hope he's going to pitch the majority of
that contract and play or and hit at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Let's get to the serious topic, the All Star Game uniforms. Yeah,
what do you think? How would you feel wearing that?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Be honest with you. First thing I said, when I
got to the National League side, they got the better draw.
There's no doubt they got the better draw of the uniforms.
I just I saw Bruce Botchie in that uniform and
I'm like, vote and you can just see him. I
don't know, man, it has.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Been but it's an easy pick.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But he thinks that it is an easy fix. I
think that's going to be next year in Atlanta. The
rumor is, I think that's going to be back to
wearing the jersey tops of your team. Somebody thought it
was great. So so they you know, it's like, look,
I mean we all get get dressed and get in
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the mirror and we're like, man, this is a great outfit.
And then somebody sees us and goes, did you get
dressed in the dark? So yeah, that's that was. That
was I was. I thought they were when I first
saw them. I thought it was the VP, you know,
kind of like the batting practice. You just go out
there and yeah, change into something. But no, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
How many All Star Games?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Eight? Eight? Yeah, and I was. I got in six
of them, and I had the great, great timing of
giving up two runs and getting two losses. Those are
only two runs I came up, I got two losses.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay, would you rather get in and get the loss
or not get in an All Star Game?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Probably get in and get the loss. You know. I
was fortunate enough to get one win in ninety six,
But there was there was the craziest scenario in Chicago
when I was closing, and I was going to close
out that game, and I had two of the greatest
doing their jobs in Wagner and Ganye pitched the seventh
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the eighth, and I was going to pitch the ninth
we had a four or five run lead, So that's
a one hundred percent guarantee that I'm going to pitch.
And what unfolded in the seventh and eighth inning. Ganya
had never given up a run yet alone blown to
save that year, and both of them ended up giving
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up some runs, and I was sitting down there, you know,
didn't get in. So that was one of them. But yeah,
I'd rather probably participate, even if it's you know, given
up giving up a run to to lose the game.
The first one I gave up. I was the youngest
player to ever get the loss in eighty nine, and
Roland Ryan was the oldest player to ever get the win.
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So I got that going for me.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Congratulations, Joe, he's the Hall of Famer. Good to talk
to you, John, Thanks for joining us as always. Right
same here, Dan, that's John Smoltz on the call last night.
Leave it to me. Let's talk about the negatives of
your Hall of Fame career. Michael Rubin, he is the
founder of Fanatics CEO. Speaking of uniforms, we'll talk to
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him about the uniforms Fanatics. Are they making these uniforms?
I'd like to what's the role that Fanatics has in
these uniforms? Are they selling the uniforms? Does Nike make
the uniform That.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Was a big deal before the season because Fanatics is
selling them, but not necessarily creating, and they or you know,
Nike was involved. Fanatics is involved in MLB's involved.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Tory Lavello, also the nationally gold Star Miniager, will join
us a little later on as well. We're back after
this on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
He is the founder of Fanatics CEO. They Got Something
Special taking place in New York City August sixteenth through
the eighteenth the Javid Center, and fans have a chance
to meet sports heroes. There's a rare cards, memorabile limited
edition merge, and a lot of interactive experiences. As we
welcome in Michael Rubin, Michael, thank you for joining us.
(18:08):
I can imagine what your business card reads, but when
you explain to somebody this is what my job is,
how would you do that?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
First?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
How are you doing great? To be with you today? Second,
I'd say I got the greatest job on the plan.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
I get to work around one hundred million plus incredible
sports fans, most passionate fans in the world, thousands of athletes,
and you know, it's the it's kind of a it's
when you're a kid you dream of doing something. If
you're not athletic like me, and you actually suck at sports,
then you know you love an opportunity to work around
sports and do what I do and kind of help
build kind of the digital sports ecosystem.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
So I don't have business cards by the way.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
I haven't had business cards for probably fifteen years, so
that's the good thing.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
So but I'm honored to lead Fanatics.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
And really excited to talk about everything we're doing with
the Fanatics Fest as well, which can be like a
never been done, first of a kind sports festival going
on in New York City August sixteenth or eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
But you were in the repurpose business when you start
her down right, when you were.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Long ago, When I was a child, about thirty five
years ago, I actually was in the visit of buying
and selling close out skis and close out but where
that's where I got my big start from. I was,
you know, I started with ski shops when I was
a teenager, opened my first one when I was fourteen,
had five by the time I graduate.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
High school, nearly went bankrupt a few times, and I went.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
When I nearly went bankrupt once I learned about buying
excess merchandise at very diskound of price, and that got
me into the close up business.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But just going through the bankruptcy, like, how does that
impact you? Like you never want to go through that,
But what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
It was a blast I had when I was sixteen
years old. I tell this story all the time. This
is not an exaggeration or embellishment in any way. I
got sued probably one hundred times as a sixteen year old.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
The sheriff used to show up before I went to
high school.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Each day she comes. She I'm at like seventh and
I was stild at home. She's like, here at today's lawsuits.
I give her a hug, she said, hi, and she
give me the day's lawsuits. But you know what it
teaches you. It teaches you that each failures to turn
into your next success. And so for me, having almost
gone bankrupt and then figure out how to settle my
desk because I wasn't even old enough to incur a debt,
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that taught me about how do I turn that into
my next success? And honestly, about a few months later,
I found a ski shop that had two hundred thousand
dollars merchandise to get auctioned off for thirteen thousand dollars,
and I bought it. And that got me in the
business buying selling clothes out. So to me, any entrepreneur
who tells you they haven't had lots of failures in
their life, I think they're full of it. And you
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got to take those failures and learn from them and
have them make you a better person. Just you know,
learn from all your mistakes is what I do every day.
I make lots of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What do you miss about being an owner? You own
the seventy six ers in the New Jersey Devils. What's
the one thing?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Well, what I missed was I never got to help
bring a championship to Philadelphia. And I think when you
own a sport, which see you have one job, and
one job only had to win a championship for your city.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
And we failed.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
We never did that when I was with the Philadelphia
six Ers. Look, I you know, I'm so fortunate to
work around all these sports teams and the leagues and
the players and the players associations. So like the reason
for me was as fanatas kept getting bigger, we grew
just merchandise where we started to having a fast grown
sports betting business, a fanatic sportsbook, to have the trading
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card business.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
With tops and all these direct relationships with athletes.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
You can't do deals directly with athletes when you own
a team, and you can't take bets on your own team,
And so kind of made it impossible for me. So
it was a great one hundred probuge to be part
of the Sixers organization, and you know, it was time
for me to move on and put all of my
effort into building Fanatics.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He's Mike Rubin, the Fanatics founder and CEO. Give me
the celebrity you met first time you met, and maybe
you were out of sorts, maybe you weren't quite sure
what to say or not say.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Well, I've got a lot of things that suck out,
a lot of weaknesses. Being shorter words is not one
of them. So I can't think of the time ever
that I was shorter of words. Maybe I spoke too
much or said too much, but I don't know. You know, look,
if you grow up working in the business the way
I do, you're in the sports business.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Like I've been around this my whole life, it's kind
of just, you know, it's kind of what I do.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
So I don't think it's you just get used to it,
and as we get bigger, the people you work around
get bigger. But it's not something that I've ever been
uncomfortable with. I have more for me. I have so
many questions that I want to learn from people I
have so many things I want to absorb from people.
So for me, it's about how can I learn from
the people that are around me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I don't know what you can see. I have an
ultimate man cave here, but.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Your crusher, you're like the model Fanatics customer. I see
so many different pieces of memorabilia, so many cool things
in your office.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I was taking note of it all.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I don't know what. I don't know what thing or
things are worth. I know a lot of that is
what is it worth to you personally? But like I
have assigned Kobe Allstar jersey where he calls me the Mamba,
but it's to me so like it's personalized. A lot
of guys personalized autographs. Now what's that do to the
value of that merchandise?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah, well that's an incredibly valuable jersey and but more importantly,
it's probably an.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Incredibly valuable memory for you.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Look our business, we have you know, pretty you know,
we own tops are pretty big trading card business that's
really driven by rookies and driven by moments in sports.
We have a big memorabilia business as well. I'll tell
you what I keep trying to do is learn from
the art market and take the learnings we have an
art and bring them to memorability and trading cards. Because
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if you think about the way great artists sell art,
you could take so many learnings from that and use
that to build the memorabilia business and trading card business.
And I think you see that in the way we're
creating scarcity with tops. A lot of the marketing and
a lot of the building we're doing are taking things
that we learned from the art market and building.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Explain that, though, Michael, what what what is the art
business doing that equates to what we're doing in memorabilia.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Well, first of all, art is a you know, there
are hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars of
art owned. It's an enormous uh industry with you know,
just incredible asset values. You know, I'll give you an example.
I remember hosting dinner at my house maybe a year
or two ago, and Jonas Wood, who's a you know,
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well known artist who's done a lot of pieces of
sports art. We're talking about how he goes to market
and the way he'll you know, show the art first,
build a lot of demand for it, and then he
sells you know, you know, kind of one piece of
a time that because I want to make this piece
of incredibly valuable. First, an athlete generally keeps all the memorabilia,
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and then they need money, and then that memorabially starts
being sold in bulk, and you kind of hurt your
own market. So, you know, one learning I guys, just
how do you market memorabilia.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
And do it in a smart way.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I think if you copy the art market, you're going
to create a lot more value versus you flooded the market.
That's just one example I took from that dinner I
had with.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Jonas would what role did fanatics play in Major League
Baseball's uniforms and what role will you play can you
play moving forward?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Look, I think anytime anything goes wrong for a player
or a fan and we have any part of it,
we feel some responsibility.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Certainly.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I think it's well known at this point that you know,
we've been making the jerseys for you know, eight years
in the factory that we own, and the factory that
we own has been making the jerseys for more than
twenty years. I think both Fanatics and Nike each want
to innovate as much as they can. I think this
particularly a case Nike want to innovate the jersey and
not everything work the way they want it. By the way,
we've had the same thing happened with us when not
everything that we want to innovate works the way we want.
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The good thing is we listen to players, we listen
to fans, and now we're going back to the bigger letters,
the bigger numbers, the tailor pants, and fans are excited.
So that's the great thing about sports fans. They're super passionate.
They got When you do well, they're gonna tell you
did well. When you do poorly, they're going to speak.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Loud, and I like that. That's what makes us a
better company.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I think we got to go back to the players
wearing their jerseys at least the tops in the All
Star Game because there were thirty two first time All
Star players. Michael, we need branding like you're not just
an All Star. I want to equate that, Oh you're
with the Guardians. You know not everybody everybody knows show. Hey,
everybody knows Aaron Judge. But if you're selling baseball, you
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got to sell more than just you know, the tree
top here with the stars.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Look, I think you could say in several sports, maybe
other than the NBA, that marketing the stars is a
big opportunity.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
And for us, what I always.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Say is I wouldn't have the privilege of working twenty
two thousand incredible team members every day that I work
with and leading facts if it wasn't for the incredible
players do what they do on the field, on the ice,
on the court.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And I think marketing of these players is so important.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
We spend a lot of energy and thought, money and
marketing and by the way, that's honestly what came to
the idea of how.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
We created Fanatics Fest.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Like I, you know, I grew up a collector, Like
I grew up going to you know, different collecting shows,
and then when we bought Tops and One a lot
of the rights to the trading cards industry, I went
to the National Trading Card Show in Atlantic City three
years ago and I had like two reactions. One was,
I couldn't believe there were more than one hundred thousand
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incredibly passionate collectors this show, and I was like so
excited by that. The second thing was I was like this,
this hasn't changed a lot since when I was in
high school. You know, I don't want to say how
long ago I was in high school.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
I was in high school and went to these trading
card shows and that gave us the idea to create
fanatics fest. Now, how do we bring all these star
athletes together to showcase them, how do we let them
connect better to their fans?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
And what we're going to do?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
All the sixties to eighteenth that the Japson in New
York City. No one's ever tried this in sports. And
do you think about this? You have in all the
other industries, right, you have comic Con. Have you ever
been to comic Coon?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I have done?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Okay, when you go.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
To comic Con, you'd be like, this is crazy, hundreds
of thousands of people dressed in their favorite character. You
go to music festivals like I go to Coachella every year,
or you go to south By Southwest, and you see
incredibly passionate fan bases within an industry.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Sports there's nothing like that.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
So, like I've been to you know, the Super Bowl,
the NBAL Star Game, Major League, you know, Baseball Star Game.
You look at say, they all do these fan festival.
Why can't we create one event. We have the best
athletes in the world to come through and we're doing this.
By the way, we got like Stephen A. Smith interviewing
Tom Brady, and we've got you know, Big Poppy interviewing
Derek Jutter, And we've got Eli and Peyton Manning, and
we've got Kevin Durant coming, We've got Anthony Edwards. You
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have two hundred of the greatest athletes in the world
coming for three days to celebrate and create this kind
of sports festival, which when it works, I want to
do this everyone in the world. Like I want to
create the greatest sports festival in the world. And so
I couldn't be more about all the leagues will come
and you'll be able to run the forty yard Dasherman.
I can't do that because I'm very uncoordinating, can't run
very fast. But you're each league will have an activation there.
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So it's kind of taking the best of all the
sports leagues, the teams, the athletes collect in all one
place and kind of create the ultimate sports festival.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
So like, that's about marketing stars.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And if you want to have somebody who can do
really good interviews, let me know next time. I'll be available.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You know, we got to get and by the way,
we want you.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
We got to get you in there.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Let's let's let let's go.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
This is really about bringing everyone together and we're doing
we have We have so many different people just creating
great content.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
So we need you. That's your call out. You just
commit it.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
By the way, what's the web what's the website or
is there? How do people get information?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Yeah, you go to Fanaticsfest dot com. They'll tell you
about all the different athletes we have. We keep adding
people every single day and they'll tell you about all
the different activities you can do.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
But this will be a one of a kind of
sports festival.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
If you live anywhere near New York City, whether it's Pennsylvania, Washington,
to see Boston, if you like sports, this will be
something that you can never do except the Fanatics Fest.
So check out the site. You know, we can't wait
to host you. I got one goal. I want every
sports fan to come through there and say, like, this
is the most fun I've ever had, you know, just
as they got to do so many different things in sports,
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and we had a lot of surprises plan for people.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
If there's one thing I'm not bad at it's throwing parties.
This canna be Alba party.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
The NHL on ice uniforms, that's next season.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
No watches this season. We unveiled them at the draft
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
The reception was spectacular and you know, really what we learned,
it's you know, we took so much input from the players,
so much input from the equipment managers. Well, they told
us they loved the jury they have, but they didn't
really like the dimples. They needed some reinforcement in the sleeves.
We basically just enhanced the existing jersey and the reception
was ten out of ten.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Perfect, awesome or you're a busy man. Good luck with
this coming up next month. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Michael, Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I'm
gonna see it from as Fest.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's Michael Rubin, fanatics founder and CEO. A lot of
energy there. Got Steve and A asking the questions. All right,
he wants to upgrade next time, Then we'll upgrade and
I'll see if I can make myself available. Just joking
steven A.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
However, uh yeah, you're as a dad of a teenager,
I don't feel so bad if my kid gets in trouble,
like there's not supenis at my house.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
She hasn't. Yeah, she hasn't been bankrupt or people suing
her yet at the same age that he was being sued.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
It's a good story.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah. Let me see Doug in North Carolina. Good morning, Doug.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Well, dad, I have two boat names for you. But
before I give you those, it's just a little bit
of history. Walter Cronkite was a famous salesman. I guess
he's not salesman, but he owned a sailboat and he
called it. He had one that was called assignmon So
is still an anchor? Could say Walter's on assignment today?
But for you, how about Keith Oberboard or simply sports anchor?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Ooh sports and then anchor? Okay, all right, Doug, I
write that one down leader in the clubhouse? Is is it?
Mother ship? What was the other one that we got
that was great? Somebody's supposed to be writing these things down. Yeah,
I got a whole list of them right here. There
were two different versions of these nuts. Now these nuts,
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these nuts, no, no, these knots. Somebody had one earlier
today section row C. See that's really good.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Nice's real nice. I like that sports anchor. I like
we had the D D C S E S E
A very nice. Yeah, stay in your shipping lane. That's
pretty funny, pretty funny, Jenny. Oh, sorry, that one's off
the list. I know my brother got a big kick
out of Jenny Bochie. I said, don't encourage them, Dave No.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think that's funny, Jenny Bouchie, because my brother well
versed in the Batchy family, the Lord, the daughters, yes plural, yes,
all right, Well, if you have a name for my
pun tune, vote, you can email, you can tweet, you
can dialos up. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
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Speaker 2 (33:15):
Michael Rubin pretty meteoric rhymese there. When you're selling ski equipment,
you're bankrupt, you're being served papers, being sued, and all
of a sudden you're worth a few billion dollars. And
then he has this white party where he just had
this in the Hamptons and everybody who was anybody was there,
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even the Kardashians were there, probably jay Z and Beyonce, Like,
it's one of those that I could say that I
was there, and then people might say, oh, how was it,
instead of thing you weren't invited in to the White Party,
I could just say that I was, But then did
you get any pictures?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I didn't want to do that to the other celebri there.
We don't do that. No, no, no, no, we don't.
Oh my god, jay Z, will you stop wanting to
get a picture? Hi, Kim Hi Chloe.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I thought it was a nice reverse psychology move by
you to not ask.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, most people make that mistake, like I didn't get
my invite. No, we don't do that. We don't do that.
We have to get invited to the fantasy. Yeah, of course, No,
I just no. I wanted to interview Tom Brady.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
Like.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
If if you want somebody who's going to ask great questions,
then you have me. If you want a popular person
on stage, then you have Steven A.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
There's a difference. I asked questions for a living Let
me see Michael and fort Wayne him. Michael, how are
you hey.
Speaker 12 (34:53):
Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Two quick
thanks for you starting with a small boost to Marvin's day.
I watched a couple episodes of The Receiver by your
recommendation last night, and upon first glance thought he bore
a slight resemblance to Debo Samuel.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Marvin and Devo Samuel. Okay, obviously we're best friend. Well, yes,
the super Bowl in Arizona. You two really hit it off,
great chemistry. Yeah, what else, Michael?
Speaker 13 (35:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Secondly, a boat name for you, a nod to the
late Stuart Scott, who, like you, was a big part
of my childhood in the morning booie.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, uh, Brian in Baltimore. Hi, Brian in Baltimore.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Hey Dan and Danet's Brian in Baltimore and sixty three
two oh three, And just got a quick boat name
for you. How about going, Going Gone?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, that's probably not a good sign for a boat,
you know, don't want it have that sinking feeling. Sports
anchor is pretty good, mothership is pretty good.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, somebody just sent in a great one high cheese
instead of I H cheese is very funny.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
How about here's one instead of Bayeau.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I looked up a list of the most common boat
names of people give their boats a lot of times
to play on retirement, you know, things like that. But Aquaholic,
Happy Hour, Seize the Day, sea s not on Call,
can o t carpaid DM is very popular about time,
those are the most popular. They did a study of
(36:45):
registered boats.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Aquaholic, Aquaholic, Okay, Bob and Missouri? Hi, Bob, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Damn?
Speaker 14 (36:54):
How you guys doing the damn that. I'm glad this
first time long time from the very beginning six one
three plus, Hey, I have the name for you since
your show is so zany and crazy and you do
(37:17):
off the wall stuff and I love it. How about
looney tunes?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Okay, Looney tunes?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
M Don, what's the play on? Like boats in the
sea and.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'm not quite sure, not quite sure.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It's like he tanked that call.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, that's all boats. Okay, that's all boats. Kyle and Charleston.
Hey Kyle, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Dan, how's it going? The first time? Long time?
Speaker 13 (38:04):
Five ten? I heard Marvin saying that it was on
his bucket list to go to an SEC football game,
and I'd like to extend the invite to any South
Carolina game cox game of his choice. We'll cover the
tickets and the once in a lifetime til getting experience.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Marvin, are you interested in going to see the game Cocks?
Speaker 13 (38:29):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
No that I'm gonna try it again, because that's not
how you start your answer.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, no, no, this is a This was a pathetic way
for me asking for any hookup for the Georgia Alabama game.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
It's Uscaloosa, Yeah, Paul, Marvin, I think you have to
wean yourself up to it. You have to go to
like a nice Kentucky you gotta graduate right then maybe
hit some Arkansas, then go to a nice Old Miss
afternoon game, and then you step up to like LSU
night games or Alabama Auburn.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
You got to ease up. You gotta work your way up.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Oh they never mind.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Then a long process.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Although I can hook you up with Darius Rucker because
he's got one of those this cabooses the train cars
and then they trick those out and it's a great
tailgate place. You do that and then you walk over
to the stadium. Jimmy in Indiana, Hi Jimmy, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Good morning?
Speaker 15 (39:22):
Dan six foot two hundred. Since I grew up in Indiana,
basketball was my first love, But like you, I really
enjoyed Big Red Machine. I grew up in that area. Okay,
you were talking about some pictures. I'm going to give
(39:43):
you some stats about a picture from that era, and
I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to get it.
But these are kind of amazing. Seventeen year career, two
time Cy Young winner, two time MVP of the World's
over three thousand strikeouts and here's the kickers. Two hundred
(40:06):
and fifty five complete games. One season he had twenty
eight complete games. Yes, Fritzi, I said, twenty eight?
Speaker 14 (40:16):
Who is it?
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Bob Gibson Absolutely all right.
Speaker 15 (40:22):
How does someone do have that kind of longevity? You're
talking about Tommy Johns and stuff. How fast do you
think Bob Gibson threw the ball?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
He probably threw it in mid nineties. He threw hard.
What I loved about Bob Gibson is that he was
in control when he was on the mound, and by
that I mean he dictated if he was going to
throw inside it you he did, and nobody was going
to challenge Bob Gibson. He's one of the most intimidating
(40:52):
pitchers I ever saw. I couldn't imagine facing him, and
there are other guys who threw harder. It's just where
he threw his pitch and that is the inside part
of the plate that's mine. Nowadays it belongs to the
hitter with Bob Gibson. Nope, that's not the case. One
more hour to go. National League All Star manager Tory
(41:15):
Lavello will join us. More phone calls as well.
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Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
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