January 6, 2026 • 41 mins
Dan talks to new Michigan Head Football Coach Kyle Whittingham about his new gig and the challenges of coaching such a storied program and the baggage he is left dealing with. Then Dan and the Danettes try to wrap their heads around the NCAA NIL rules which seem unsustainable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, we'll talk to the new Michigan head coach,
Kyle Whittingham. He'll join us in twenty minutes from now.
He got good news yesterday. Bryce Underwood is quarterback apparently staying.
What a weird situation where you go, hey, you know
if your quarterback is staying? I don't know, and then
all of a sudden you get word that, yes, he
is staying. I guess there was thought that he could
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go to lsu In and everybody. But we'll talk to Kyle.
He'll join us. We had a conversation with him yesterday
after the show. Reggie Miller will stop by as well.
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get to your phone calls. Operator is sitting by. He'll
take your calls. Seaton, would you give us an update
on the poll question from the first hour and what
we're looking at hour two of this award nominated program.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, we're actually doing the poll question a little differently today.
So if you go to Dan Patrick dot com, you
can see there's a thing in the picture right there
that has the.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Link in it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Click on that link and we'll have you rank the
current NFL head coaching openings. So you click that link
and then you can basically slide one up to the
top for the best, slide one down to the bottom
for the worst.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's also on our Instagram page. Click those results pending. Okay,
we had Mike Tannenbaum on. He was a former front
office executive for two franchises and it's not a report,
but he did bring up the possibility of what about
Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza package deal to the Raiders,
And I thought I'd be shocked, but you know, you
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start to think about it. If you're the Raiders, why not?
Why not? If you're Tom Brady, swing away, go for it.
See if you've got somebody you have to believe that
Kurt Signetti is that guy, because, as Mike Tanebaum also
said in the same breath. College coaches don't do well
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when they go into the NFL. Well, you're asking a
guy who's certainly set in his ways, who's in his
what mid sixties, and you know, with a magical season here.
I don't know if it's one of those, Hey, if
he wins the national title type situations, would he be
interested in something like that? You know, it's like Marcus
Freeman at Notre Dame. The Giants reportedly were interested in him. Now,
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do I see him as an NFL head coach at
some point? Yeah? Probably so. But it's hard to pass
up the money that's being spent in college football right now.
And you're getting deals that are seven, eight, nine years.
You're getting one hundred million dollar deals, and yes, is
it a chaotic time with NIO and transfer portals and collectives.
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You know the fact that you're spending upwards of forty
million dollars with some of these programs. And I gave
you this information yesterday from my source who said, you
kind of have to that's your ballpark figure. Now I
thought it was like twenty million. That was, you know,
the money that you were going to get for each school.
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Then there's nil the collectives and see, none of this
makes any sense to me or a difference, because, as
I've said for years, I kept thinking that if I'm
T Boom Pickings when he was alive at Oklahoma State,
and I just say, I'm a billionaire, what kind of
money do you want? How about I give you forty million,
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thirty million, do whatever you want? Get me the best team.
Well that's what's going on now. All it takes is
one guy Texas Tech. One guy goes, you know what,
We're going to have a damn good football team here.
And they're spending five million dollars reportedly on a quarterback
to trans from Cincinnati to Texas Tech. Oh, it's wild.
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And that's why the so called blue bloods aren't blue
bloods anymore. Even in basketball. And this may come as
a shock, but players got paid to go to some
of these schools. Yeah, believe it or not. Marvin what, Yes,
the thought, Yes, now you don't have to pay somebody
under the table, but you still can. It's still going on.
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It's like, Nope, that's the amount of money that you get.
Uh what about that money over there? Sh that's where
you get to forty and the fifty million dollars and
if the players are going to get this, good for them,
they have every right to this. Yeah, Ston, there are.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Certain topics that we in sports media just can't resist.
They're just too delicious, even though they are never the
chances of them happening, it's probably ninety nine point nine
percent it's never going to happen. And one of our
favorites in this business the last like five to ten
years is package deal. Coach and quarterback both go together,
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they both make the jump together. Huh can't you see
Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
What could go wrong? It's perfect, It's perfect. We God,
we love that story. We can't resist, even it's never
gonna happen. We do it every single year. There's a
package deal.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That, Oh we love it. Yeah, but sports media is
about hypotheticals.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Sports media is about a calendar and what are the
topics that happened this time every single year? And package
deal is one that happens every single time this year. Yes, Marvin,
even the ones that don't make sense. Nick Saban arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh, I know in Cleveland people ran with that, and
I go first of all, arch isn't coming out. Who
wouldn't want that? Second of all, Saban is not crazy
enough that he would want to go back into coaching.
I got some unfinished business with the Cleveland Browns. But
you know it was thrown out there by somebody reputable
and then people ran with it. Yes, Paul, well it's
going to happen today.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Someone's going to take the Mike Tannabaum topic and turn
it into is this a possibility as opposed to just
Mike Tannabam'm saying this is what I do if I
ran the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It will be a topic bar because and Pauli's right,
sometimes when something comes up on the show and then
we say, oh well, let's talk about that possibility and
it's not a report. Mike Tannebaum was saying, Hey, what
about That's all he's saying. He didn't say you know
what I heard from or there's a chance he didn't
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say that. But that doesn't that won't stop people from
running with this. If you're running the Raiders, you're a
Raiders fan, or you're hosting a show and you want
to throw something out there, you're going to get people's
attention with this. But it is not a report. It
was just Mike saying why not?
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yes, Ton, and do you even want to be that
guy who had this great thing at Indiana and maybe
a national championship, maybe building on that, maybe a multiple championships.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
You're the guy.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Forever in Indiana and you go six and eleven or
seven ten as the Raiders coach?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Do you you know?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I don't know what his ego is that we'd like
to try his hand at being a successful NFL coach.
Is that worth it to him and his legacy to
not stay where he just built something great? What do
you think I think you should stay in Indiana and
certainly not going to the Raiders. They're not They got
to chase their broncos and charges and even the Chiefs
aren't going to stay down very long.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All right, It's a long haul.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
To me to take over the Raiders round.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't care how great a coach you are on Colum.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yes, I don't know what owner GM combo in the
world is gonna sign up for. Let's hire this head
coach that we don't know if he can coach at
this level, and even better, let's have him bring his
current quarterback up to this level too, because we don't
know if he could play at this level either. Let's
just put them both together and give it three years,
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, but look at all the dumb things the Raiders
have done before in the last twenty five years. It's fair,
but that might be the dumbest.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Hmmm, a lot of stupid game years.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, but the worst thing the Raiders did in the
last ten to fifteen years is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Who was the coach that they had just fired? Somebody?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
They had an interim head coach that everybody loved, Rich Yes, yeah, right,
give him the job, the job, damn it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well they did that before, you know, somebody. This is
always the danger of an interim head coach when you
go on a run and then all of a sudden
we go yeah, mean you got to give him the job.
I mean, come on, Antonio Pierce, you got to give
him the job. And then all of a sudden, you
give him the job. Nel, why do we give him
the job? Drod Mayo, Man, you got to give him
the job. He's been waiting. Uh not good? Yeah, pulling
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well with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Rich Pisacia not getting the job in twenty twenty one
was so criticized that they gave Antonio Pierce the job
two years later as a compensation for not doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dylan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Are you doing lay to son to talk about the
foam connection?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is not very good there, Dylan, Try again, Michael and
Fort Wayne. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Hey, listen, the Winter Olympics are coming up real soon,
and I think we all want to know, as a
former Olympian, who do you like to stay from the
Golden cross country scheme this year?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah? I'm apparently a former baseball player now an Olympian.
Thank you, Michael. Yeah, I got to check my Wikipedia
page because it might be a little bit more full
than it needs to be. Chris and Syracuse, Hi Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (09:48):
Hey, I have a couple of items to throw at you.
And this day in sports history. You know, in the
last two years teams will buy in college football playoffs
are one and seven. It seems like having to buy
in the three plus week later that comes with it
isn't really an advantage. And I can't wait till they
go with a sixteen team playoff, There'll be no reason
to have buys. Just go straight to a nice four
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round playoff. And as Polly said, gosh, it was probably
fifteen sixteen years ago college football would own the month
of December. And Andy Reid says he'll be back next year,
but Mahomes is out to start the year. You're not
in a good salary cap position. And a couple assistants
said left in fact once related to the Michigan head coach,
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and he's head Ann Arbor and Ellie and Denver a
on the rise and the Biggie Casey's facing pretty much
a rebuild. And at this stage Andy Reid's career, why
would he want to sign up for a rebuild? I mean,
he's won super Bowls and yeah, I wouldn't be surprised
if Andy Reid is not coaching next ball. And this
day in sports history, thirty two years ago, Nancy Kerrigan
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was clubbed on her knees, which led directly to you
Dan being falsely accused of making a skeptical of Time's career.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I know I did, thank you, Thank you, Chris. What
a wild story that was, Nancy Kerrigan, Tanya Harding my girl,
and then we had her on and yeah. You know,
sometimes I can give myself credit for having a good idea,
and then other times where I'm doing an interview and
(11:21):
I go, but it's a bad idea. While I'm doing
the interview, I know it's a bad idea, but it
did live on. It lives on and show infamy of
Tanya Harding, and God love her. I hope she's happy
doing a triple Shaukal or whatever they do and figure
skating right now.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, that was the nineteen ninety four Winter Olympics. You
talk about a story that crossed over everyone worldwide.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, then they have I mean the fact
that they had a movie it Tanya like Margo Robbie,
it's a big time actress, and she pulled it off too.
But you know, I'm thinking, all right, a movie about
Tanya Harding, and then all of a sudden I'm watching
had helped that Margot Robbie was Tanya Harding. Yeah, Margot
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Robbie could hit me in the shin with a club,
any fine. Aspired to that Tea Bucks in Texas, Hey,
Tea Bucks.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Hey, how are you dp good? I got a quick
like fuck Mike t brought it up and the whole
thing with Andrew Berry still being there as the dam
of the Browns. First off, I have no idea how
he kept it. But if there's a coach out there,
say like at Clint Kubiak or someone that's hot, why
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wouldn't they bring them in and get rid of Andrew
Berry if that's what they want A lah Liam Cohen.
And then one other quick thing about Kevin Savanski being
a great coach or a good coach. I've never seen
a coach two weeks in a row towards the end
of the season only challenge a play in the first
minute of the game, but lose both of them.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
He's going to get a job. I mean, you can
say what you want about Stefanski. He's held in high regard.
He is. And the fact that the guy you don't
want is going to interview probably with three of these teams,
it says a lot about maybe the organization and about
Kevin Stefanski. Now, did he do a good job with
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shad Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel If you're saying, hey,
he's supposed to be developing these quarterbacks, No, he didn't.
But neither should have been playing this year, and they'll be.
There'll be a story that comes out eventually about this
whole quarterbacking situation, how they got to this point because
they had too many quarterbacks and then all of a sudden,
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you have two quarterbacks, and then do you really have
one quarterback? Here is the Browns general manager Andrew Barry.
Coming into the season.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
We were realistic that, you know, we were a team
and a roster in transition, and ultimately this decision is
born from the fact that we've ultimately felt like we
did not see enough progress in areas that were controllable
independent of certain game outcomes.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, you also put a fifth round draft pick in there.
If I take the name away from should or Sanders,
he's you know, Jim Smith. People aren't infatuating with the Browns.
People aren't overrating the Browns. People aren't looking at Kevin
Stefanski and saying you're the problem here. It was a
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fifth round draft pick who had some success, uh, but
wasn't refined to be starting in the NFL. There's a
reason why he dropped. Now you can have revisionist history
and people say I'm a second round draft pick. You know,
second round, third round at word, Okay, he still dropped.
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I think there's more to the story of drafting him
and putting him in that position. Now, am I glad
that he got a chance to give us a sample size? Yes,
but he was really non threatening. He had a couple
of moments. But he should have a couple of moments.
I mean, he's the starting quarterback at Colorado and Jackson
State and played really well. But the NFL is just different.
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That's when you go to the line of scrimmage, what
do I got?
Speaker 10 (15:35):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It feels like that's the position. Now go to the
line of scrimmage and you go, all right, what do
we got? I got two plays? What am I gonna call?
Can you do that? And it's it's something that has
to be learned. That's why when you talk to quarterbacks
and they'll say, you know, my second third year started
to the game slowed down. Well, it slowed down because
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you knew what you were doing. You slowed it down
in your mind instead of oh my god, wait is
that guy coming off to what's my coverage? Wait? Are
they under two? That you can't have that kind of
frenetic feel when you go to the line of scrimmage,
and Dylan Gabriel was non threatening as well, wonderful college quarterback.
But you got to be able to throw. You got
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to throw in the flats. Can you throw out? You know,
to the the numbers. Can you process all of this?
And that's why it was unfair to really expect that much.
And maybe they bring in another quarterback. Maybe, you know,
Shador and Dylan get a chance to be backup quarterbacks.
You know, maybe they'll be starting quarterbacks. Kobe Brissett's been
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bouncing around for a long time. Tyler Huntley, you can
have a job. I just don't know if I would
be pinning all my hopes if I'm the Browns on
Shador Sanders. Yeah, Paul, you could make the case.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
At the Browns, they had the twelfth ranked defense in
the league and the best defensive player this year. The
offense was ranked thirty first. If they would have been
aggressive and had gone after some like Sam Darnold or
Daniel Jones and I had a B level quarterback, they
won five games with basically no quarterback play. They could
have won nine. But they can't do that at quarterback
because all their money is tied up in a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know he got Andrew Berry talking
about you know, the team. Now they should have traded
Miles Garrett. I mean, he's great, but he doesn't play
in playoff games. That's why when people say, oh, greatest
defensive player of all time, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, they
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played in big games, they played in Super Bowls. That's
what I wish we would get with Miles Garrett, where
he get to play on him. He should be playing
this weekend. That's the unfortunate part of this. Michael Strahan
played in big games. T J. Watt playing in big games,
Aaron Donald in big games. You can have maybe one
of the greatest defensive players of all time and he's
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not going to play in really many meaningful games. It's
like having Mike Trout and you're only playing in a
couple of playoff games.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Yes, Marvin, Unfortunately, he's gonna be the defensive version of
Joe Thomas first First Ball Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, no playoff success. We'll take a break. Kyle Winningham,
the Michigan head coach, will join us next here on
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Check us out on YouTube and subscribe. He's the new
head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham, former Utah head coach
Tuton pac twelve Coach of the Year and went ten
and two at Utah this year and then was going
to go into an advisory role and be paid to
stay on at Utah at least that was the report.
(19:13):
And then all of a sudden Michigan, that job opened
up and Kyle Whittingham was there to take the phone call.
We spoke to him yesterday and I started off by
asking him, is he having a midlife crisis?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, well good question. But you know, I had a
really good run at Utah. It was a great experience.
Thirty two years in all, twenty one years as the
head coach. I figured I'd done pretty much all I
could do there, and I'm still not that old, sixty six.
I guess that's, you know, not that old. But I
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thought when I stepped down, first of all, I didn't
want to be that guy that over state is welcome,
you know, I don't, you know, I've seen that happen
too many times where guys stayed too long get run
out of town. So didn't want to be that guy.
But just felt like, Okay, there's been a good run.
Let's leave on a positive note. And when I did
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step down, I had an inclination in my mind that
if there was about you know, you count on one
hand the amount of schools that if they would have called,
I would have been receptive. And just so happens. About
two or three days later, I had some contact with
Michigan and they were on that list, and one thing
led to another about a weaker. Ten days later it
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was a done deal.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You contact them or they contact you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Well, it's my agent, and I'm not sure how the
initial thing went. Of course, there's a search committee guy,
the head of the search committee. I don't know who
was contacted who first, but that's how that's how it went.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What kind of questions do you have going into a situation.
We all know how great the job is, but man
feels like there's a little bit of a mess to
clean up, you know, for the next year or so.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, you know, it's the place doesn't need a rebuild,
it needs a reboot of trust and get rid of
the drama and and just get back to playing Michigan
football without all the distractions. You know. The one thing
is it didn't come from the players. You know, the
players were not involved. It wasn't some player you know
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issue it was. It was, you know, just the peripheral.
And so guys here have a great attitude. I met
with every single one of them at the bull site
last week. Just quality young men, care about academics, excited
to be at Michigan. But they've dealt with a lot
over the last years, and so that's where they're at.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What did you need to hear.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I needed to hear that they were having a good
experience here exclusive of the of the distractions.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The athletic director and the you know, the the higher ups.
What did you need to hear from them?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Well, I need to hear that Michigan was what I
thought it was, you know, a top five program, which
I don't think there's any doubt about that. It's a
special place. They're committed to winning here. You know, we
do have some challenges with entrance requirements. There is there
is a little bit of a hurdle there. But you know,
you talk about athletes, resources, tradition, it's all here at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You haven't been out of Utah or Idaho.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
I don't think you're right, right, how as a coach,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, So what do you need to learn about, you know,
being in Michigan, in the Big ten, in hating Ohio state.
Now you've got to deal with Indiana.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
And yeah, well we would transfer our moving leagues. Is no, no,
nothing new to me or where I was at. And
you went from the WHAC to the Mountain West, to
the Pac twelve to the Big twelve and I was
there through it all, and so I know exactly how
to how to you know, navigate that. You know, we've
had a pretty good track record against Big ten schools
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while I was at Utah. In fact, against Michigan. We're
three and oh, so that didn't hurt my cause during
the during the process, the hiring process. But but uh,
football is football then, and and it's ex's and o's.
They don't change. Certainly, the you know, the level of
competition is increased, but it's relative. I mean, we're good
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players here, so so it's uh, I think it's a
good situation.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
JU hate Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Don't I have to? Yeah, I think I have to.
But but uh.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Seminar that there, and I know Urban Urban was helping you.
Uh wasn't.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Absolutely. I've been close with Urban ever since. We worked together,
uh back in uh O two and O three, and
I was his defensive coordinator. I was on the staff
staff got let go, Urban got the job. I was
the only holdover and uh Riddy developed a great relationship
with him and have maintained it ever since. And yeah,
he absolutely helped me. Uh along the way.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Here Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head football coach, joining us. I'm
trying to figure out this transfer portal, so am I.
But I'm also trying to figure out the collective and
nil dollar. I mean, somebody just told me over the
weekend that some of these programs are getting to forty
million dollar budgets, forty million plus. Absolutely, I mean it
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doesn't feel sustainable, Kyle, It's not.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
It's not sustainable. There's no question about that. Something has
got to give. And I think it's you know, within
a two to two to four five year window here,
you're going to see a major overhaul Division one football.
I think it's going to become more of a minor
league NFL model. I think you're going to see a
(24:36):
solar cap, collective bargaining, uh, players as employees. I think
all that's coming because you're exactly right, we can't maintain
this pace. It's impossible.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Can we have a commissioner?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yes, I would love one. I think that's I think
that's in the cards as well.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But is everybody going to listen? Is the SEC going
to listen or the big ten?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I mean they have to, they have to. And I
think if we get you know, ultimately aligned with the
super conferences and uh, you know, get things commission you know,
have a commissioner that runs it all and put some
teeth into it, I think that's the only way to survive.
And so and you're already seeing private equity starting to
end the Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Where are we going with the playoffs? It's probably going
to sixteen next year, but where are we going?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well to sixteen? First of all, and I kind of
agree with coach Dan Landing at the Oregon it would
be nice to have the season wrapped up by January first,
especially the way the portal window is right now. I mean,
it's chaos, and so I think there needs to be revamping,
not only if of the system itself, but at least
immediately the calendar. The calendar needs to be tweaked.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What kind of money are we talking about? What's a
top end quarterback costing now? In the portal?
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I heard today that one university in the state of
Texas is paying five million dollars for a starting quarterback
for this year, and so I think that might be
the the That's the most I've heard of, and I
you know, basketball players, some basketball player are making more
than that from what you hear. But the starting quarterback
now apparently the price is five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Is Bryce Underwood staying?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
We hope?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
So?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I think he's had he's got a got a good vibe. Uh,
you don't know, Well, you don't know anything yet. I mean, shoot,
it's a it's the wild wild West here, Dan. And
so we think we think we're in a good place
with Bryce. He's a terrific young man. I've sat down
with him and and uh he is the really the
heart and soul of this football team. And uh, I
(26:30):
think we're making good progress towards that end.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We're curious if we could have your old Utah gear.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, I can have a shift out to you. It's
all xcel. You got one size to choose from.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But uh, boy, that's that's a big color change for you.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
It is it is, You're right, Yeah, red to blue
and blue was our was our rival. You know, it
was a Utah for years and so now I got
to get used to saying go blue.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
But I tell them, okay, but did you hate b
Yu as much as you're gonna hate?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Okay, hate a strong word. But how about an intense,
very intense rivalry? And uh it was very uh in
the state of Utah. I mean it's the biggest single
sporting event.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That was an unbelievable rivalry though very underrated. But but
you know, having two daughters who lived in Salt Lake
and it's like you did. Yeah. No, they both they
both left, they both came back home. Yeah, they loved it,
they loved Salt Lake. But they said, uh that that rivalry,
you don't understand it until you go to it, exactly.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So because I grew up Ohio State Michigan, right, and
I always think that there's no better rivalry. But there
there are ones. When you go to them, you understand
the importance. It's just not national magnitude like Ohio State
and Michigan are.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Doesn't have the national bandwidth that uh, that we have
in this rivalry. But it is every bit is intense
and every bit as uh. You know that the animosity
in the in the state and you're either red or
blue in that state, and it's pretty well split. I mean,
it's almost an even division there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Could you take Ryan Day when you were younger, when
I was younger, or could you take him now so
he's forty six? Yeah? Could you take Ryan Day right
now in the octagon.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
In an acting on Well, there's one way to find out.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I don't know. I like Ryan I got a lot
of respect for him. We played him in the in
the Rose Bowl, a couple of years back. Well, I
guess it's been him three or four years now, so
excellent football coach.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't have to say nice things anymore, man, it's
best that you don't.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Okay, I know, I'll probably put my foot in my
mouth right there.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Uh, congrats, good luck, Appreciate.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You, us appreciate you, dun thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We taped that yesterday. Five hours later, Bryce Underwood tweeted
that he was staying at Michigan. But you could hear
it in his voice when he said is your quarterback
going to be staying? He's like, uh, hope. So he
didn't know. Yeah, do you think he didn't know? Well,
if he knew, then why wouldn't he say.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, I mean maybe he wanted the player to announce it.
I mean that's kind of the way things work now,
you know. The player announces they're leaving, the player announces
they're staying. I wonder if he really had no idea.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, Paulie, I would.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Speculate that these days there was probably a renegotiation of
his contract at Michigan and it was not signed yet,
and that when we spoke to him, it was there
was not ink on the page yet.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I believe that. Yeah, yeah, because it feels like everybody
who's in the transfer portal, or the potential for every
player to be in the transfer portal, because you know,
you want to you want to at least find out
what the market is for you, or have somebody find
that out for you. And you know, as Kyle was saying,
(29:50):
Cincinnati's quarterback is getting five million dollars to go to
Texas Tech. Now that's that's changed as far as the price,
because as I told told you, I think before the
holiday break, I was told that the going rate for
a quarterback transferring was three to four million dollars. And
now all of a sudden, you get Cincinnati's quarterback. I
(30:11):
don't know his name. Let me see, have you seen
his name? I should have that, but I know that
he was obviously a very good quarterback and he's going
to Texas Tech and getting five million dollars. So yes,
Marvin Brandon Soresby, Okay, all right, yeah, five million dollars.
(30:34):
And you know, as I told you that source said
there was a high school tight end and there were
two major college programs that were paying him and he
was still in high school. But it's basically, hey, we're
going to give you the money. We're giving you the
money before you even you know, get to college. We're
going to give you the money in high school. And
(30:55):
he a decorated player and he was getting paid while
I mean that's where they're starting. I mean the same thing.
Look at the shoe industry, it's we're not waiting for
you to get to the NBA. We're not waiting for
you to get to college. We're not waiting for you
to get to high school. We're going aau. We're going
as early as possible to get you in our shoes,
(31:18):
to get you in the program, get your free gear.
This is the same thing. It's like you're grooming to
get them to go to your school. What's it going
to take and when do you start? This is what's
going on right now. They and even as coach said,
this isn't sustainable that you have programs who are going
(31:38):
to be spending forty to fifty million dollars a year.
Now some can, but you know you're and you can't say, well, Congress,
you guys fix this because we can't. And really that's
almost the mindset. It feels like, hey, nothing, what can do?
Maybe Congress can help us. I think Congress has other
(32:00):
things they're probably working on, but you know we can
check the docket. Yes, Marvin, are.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
You're gonna see a lot more mid season changes like
you did this season because they're paying all this money.
They're like, we're not seeing results, so you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah. I mean we see this in the NFL, where
you get you get two years. It feels like two
years is a coach, two years is a quarterback. Before
we you know, rubber stamp you as your franchise quarterback
or you're our coach, or you're a bust or you
should be just a coordinator not a head coach. I
mean that's it's getting quicker and quicker because the money
(32:35):
is getting bigger and bigger, and you want to know
right away that is that our guy? If not, we
got to move on.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
So, I I.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Know that the money in college football and how much
players are being paid as a controversial issue, but like,
take someone like Brandon Swordsby you're just talking about he
is going to make more money than shirdor Sanders is
going to make. I kind of like the idea that
the money that these kids are gonna make keeps them
(33:05):
in college football longer, so they actually develop more. And
that then maybe the players that are supposed to make
it to the NFL do go to the NFL, and
the ones that aren't still have a good chunk of change,
but they probably aren't gonna eventually get there. The developed
ones will be more apparent.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, but you have to stay three years in college football,
so you have a built in system that protects college
football from the standpoint of these names may bounce around,
but they stay. College basketball doesn't have that, so you
don't have any familiarity with college basketball, at least with football.
You go, oh, that guy used to be and you're right.
(33:44):
You might stay for your senior year is instead of
coming out after your junior year in college football, but
you're already locked in for three years. Where college basketball,
I'm one and done. I mean, all of these guys
we looked at and we go, that guy's one and done.
All the marquee players one and done. Even the money
that you could make and Cooper Flagg reportedly was making
(34:04):
around two point six million dollars at Duke. He was
the highest paid player two point six Now what would
he be worth if he came back? What five million dollars,
maybe more than that. He wants to get into that
second contract in the NBA when he's gonna get sixty
or seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, but maybe even still just staying for that extra
year of development. There's not the I get the rush
to the second contract. I definitely get that. However, there
is something I think there's something to be said about
another year of development rather than being pushed too early.
You know, I they if you're leaving college football with
a couple million dollars in your pocket, there really isn't
(34:43):
that same rush to get there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's like Ty Simpson and Alabama. You know, greg Or
was some of the who is it? McCarran said, Hey,
I would tell him to stay and you know, you
need another year. He might be in the transfer portal.
He got hurt in that game against Indiana, maybe a
cracked rib, but it looked like he might have been
getting benched as well. And is he going to transfer?
(35:08):
Does he does he want to go into the NFL?
And I think mccaren said he would probably be a
fifth or sixth round quarterback, but that he should stay.
And not everybody has guidance though now we think that,
Oh man, you know somebody, there's a lot of people
with a lot of agendas, who hey, I'd go pro
(35:29):
because people helping you with that decision might be getting
money from you with that decision. Yeah, palling.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Another great example is Carson Beck, who's a hot property
a year and a half ago. Then he really cooled
off as a draft prospect, you know, and parlayed a
big payday from Miami.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, Quinn ewers as well. I mean, it's it's working
out for Quinn, but Texas didn't want him to stay
another year. I think he wanted to stay another year. Like, no,
I think we're good.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Arch.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's it's Arch's term. All right, more phone calls coming up.
We'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. Texas Tech has added again there spending money.
Uh you know, they signed multiple players in the portal
for over seven million dollars in twenty twenty five. Now
(36:23):
they just spend five million dollars on their quarterback. Reportedly,
he is Brendan Soorsby who was at Cincinnati, got these
guys who are making more money than starting quarterbacks in
the NFL and making more, well, not making more than
cam Ward. Is he making more than Tyler Shuck with
(36:43):
the New Orleans Saints? Probably? So, you know, Tyler Shuck
had a pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Nobody noticed, but he had a pretty good year for
the Saints, made them competitive, had some pretty good numbers there,
and uh, you know, they kind of threw him in
and he survived. So and I think a lot of
people thought he might be the most quarterback ready because
of his age and experienced number of games when he
(37:08):
played in college. Jackson dard I thought was a first
round draft pick and proved to be at the end
of the first round. But Tyler Shuck was probably ready
to go, maybe sooner than any of the other quarterbacks.
All right, Oh, Paulie wants to play the guess that
firing game? Oh okay, Now we usually.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Play this on a Monday after the football season. A
rare Guess that firing on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's messed up? Then, why come on, what are you
doing that on Tuesday?
Speaker 10 (37:39):
For?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
This is what we spent like the whole first home
you can. This is supposed to be I think I
made a Tuesday. Yes, not Wow, sucks to be you Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Okay, see, and you're right on because the hint is
in your complaint. What would a which team would maybe
do it on a Tuesday so they could garner more
attention than other teams?
Speaker 8 (37:58):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You want to stand out for this team?
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Does?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Being Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
The Dallas Cowboys of fire defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. They
are now answer their fourth defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
In four season.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Okay, the Cowboys could have easily done this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
They teased it last week. Well, who are they bringing in?
Like anybody but Matt Abra No, but I saw where
they were bringing in somebody. It's already been a name
attached to this. Yes, Todd, do you do that?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Do you fire the head coaches Monday than the coordinators?
Speaker 5 (38:27):
They are more of a midweek Tuesday Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah they're not They're not Monday worthy. Yeah, you got
to wait a couple day. Yeah Tuesday. Ashton in Vegas, Hey, Ashton,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (38:42):
Just first time, long time, thanks for taking my call. Uh,
curious to see if you guys have heard anything, but
come across my social media a couple of times where
Geno Smith is reportedly surprised and frustrated that they let
Pete Carroll go, and it's like, well, if you wanted
him to, they maybe throw to your own team.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, what do you have? Seventeen interceptions? I think this year.
I guess there's a little bit of surprise with that.
I mean the surprise was they hired him at his
age with that team, and it's and it's it was
going to take a few years. I don't I now,
I had higher expectations for them, but they were lofty
(39:23):
expectations because I was thinking, you know what, they got
a running back, quarterback, tight end, and they got a
you know, impact edge rusher. Okay, challenging division, yes, but
maybe you can win eight or nine games, yes, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Going back to the signing of Geno Smith by the Raiders,
a lot of people liked it at the time. It
was a friendly contract. Financially, he just went ten and
seven as the Seattle quarterback with twenty one touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It was considered a nice move.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I didn't have a problem with you know Smith because
it looked like he had, you know, kind of had
that renaissance that we see with a lot of these quarterbacks. Yes,
how many of those were rcis Yeah, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
This is a classic instance of why we need that
stat receiver calls to interception or every weekend. Yeah, and
they go on your docket.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well not every weekend with the Jets, no weekends. They
didn't have one where the receiver went the wrong way
and the quarterback threw and somebody got an interception. Unbelievable. Yes, Mark.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
The sad part is Sauce Gardener probably wouldn't help that either,
because he was an intercepting ball like that either.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
No, man, you forget about that move that the Colts
made and you're thinking, man, they're all in and then
all of a sudden they're all out.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yes, Marv Jonathan Taylor was an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
He was, Yeah, because I was making him an MVP candidate.
But you know I did preface that by saying they
won't give it to a running back. But at the time,
through what eight games, he was a big deal. But
you wonder about that. They got to get a quarterback,
Danny Dimes. I'm not gonna be ready to start the season,
(41:05):
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He got good news yesterday. Bryce Underwood is quarterback apparently staying.
What a weird situation where you go, hey, you know
if your quarterback is staying? I don't know, and then
all of a sudden you get word that, yes, he
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on the poll question from the first hour and what
we're looking at hour two of this award nominated program.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, we're actually doing the poll question a little differently today.
So if you go to Dan Patrick dot com, you
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's also on our Instagram page. Click those results pending. Okay,
we had Mike Tannenbaum on. He was a former front
office executive for two franchises and it's not a report,
but he did bring up the possibility of what about
Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza package deal to the Raiders,
And I thought I'd be shocked, but you know, you
(01:52):
start to think about it. If you're the Raiders, why not?
Why not? If you're Tom Brady, swing away, go for it.
See if you've got somebody you have to believe that
Kurt Signetti is that guy, because, as Mike Tanebaum also
said in the same breath. College coaches don't do well
(02:13):
when they go into the NFL. Well, you're asking a
guy who's certainly set in his ways, who's in his
what mid sixties, and you know, with a magical season here.
I don't know if it's one of those, Hey, if
he wins the national title type situations, would he be
interested in something like that? You know, it's like Marcus
Freeman at Notre Dame. The Giants reportedly were interested in him. Now,
(02:35):
do I see him as an NFL head coach at
some point? Yeah? Probably so. But it's hard to pass
up the money that's being spent in college football right now.
And you're getting deals that are seven, eight, nine years.
You're getting one hundred million dollar deals, and yes, is
it a chaotic time with NIO and transfer portals and collectives.
(02:58):
You know the fact that you're spending upwards of forty
million dollars with some of these programs. And I gave
you this information yesterday from my source who said, you
kind of have to that's your ballpark figure. Now I
thought it was like twenty million. That was, you know,
the money that you were going to get for each school.
(03:20):
Then there's nil the collectives and see, none of this
makes any sense to me or a difference, because, as
I've said for years, I kept thinking that if I'm
T Boom Pickings when he was alive at Oklahoma State,
and I just say, I'm a billionaire, what kind of
money do you want? How about I give you forty million,
(03:41):
thirty million, do whatever you want? Get me the best team.
Well that's what's going on now. All it takes is
one guy Texas Tech. One guy goes, you know what,
We're going to have a damn good football team here.
And they're spending five million dollars reportedly on a quarterback
to trans from Cincinnati to Texas Tech. Oh, it's wild.
(04:06):
And that's why the so called blue bloods aren't blue
bloods anymore. Even in basketball. And this may come as
a shock, but players got paid to go to some
of these schools. Yeah, believe it or not. Marvin what, Yes,
the thought, Yes, now you don't have to pay somebody
under the table, but you still can. It's still going on.
(04:28):
It's like, Nope, that's the amount of money that you get.
Uh what about that money over there? Sh that's where
you get to forty and the fifty million dollars and
if the players are going to get this, good for them,
they have every right to this. Yeah, Ston, there are.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Certain topics that we in sports media just can't resist.
They're just too delicious, even though they are never the
chances of them happening, it's probably ninety nine point nine
percent it's never going to happen. And one of our
favorites in this business the last like five to ten
years is package deal. Coach and quarterback both go together,
(05:06):
they both make the jump together. Huh can't you see
Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
What could go wrong? It's perfect, It's perfect. We God,
we love that story. We can't resist, even it's never
gonna happen. We do it every single year. There's a
package deal.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That, Oh we love it. Yeah, but sports media is
about hypotheticals.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Sports media is about a calendar and what are the
topics that happened this time every single year? And package
deal is one that happens every single time this year. Yes, Marvin,
even the ones that don't make sense. Nick Saban arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh, I know in Cleveland people ran with that, and
I go first of all, arch isn't coming out. Who
wouldn't want that? Second of all, Saban is not crazy
enough that he would want to go back into coaching.
I got some unfinished business with the Cleveland Browns. But
you know it was thrown out there by somebody reputable
and then people ran with it. Yes, Paul, well it's
going to happen today.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Someone's going to take the Mike Tannabaum topic and turn
it into is this a possibility as opposed to just
Mike Tannabam'm saying this is what I do if I
ran the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It will be a topic bar because and Pauli's right,
sometimes when something comes up on the show and then
we say, oh well, let's talk about that possibility and
it's not a report. Mike Tannebaum was saying, Hey, what
about That's all he's saying. He didn't say you know
what I heard from or there's a chance he didn't
(06:32):
say that. But that doesn't that won't stop people from
running with this. If you're running the Raiders, you're a
Raiders fan, or you're hosting a show and you want
to throw something out there, you're going to get people's
attention with this. But it is not a report. It
was just Mike saying why not?
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yes, Ton, and do you even want to be that
guy who had this great thing at Indiana and maybe
a national championship, maybe building on that, maybe a multiple championships.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
You're the guy.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Forever in Indiana and you go six and eleven or
seven ten as the Raiders coach?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Do you you know?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I don't know what his ego is that we'd like
to try his hand at being a successful NFL coach.
Is that worth it to him and his legacy to
not stay where he just built something great? What do
you think I think you should stay in Indiana and
certainly not going to the Raiders. They're not They got
to chase their broncos and charges and even the Chiefs
aren't going to stay down very long.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All right, It's a long haul.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
To me to take over the Raiders round.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't care how great a coach you are on Colum.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yes, I don't know what owner GM combo in the
world is gonna sign up for. Let's hire this head
coach that we don't know if he can coach at
this level, and even better, let's have him bring his
current quarterback up to this level too, because we don't
know if he could play at this level either. Let's
just put them both together and give it three years,
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, but look at all the dumb things the Raiders
have done before in the last twenty five years. It's fair,
but that might be the dumbest.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Hmmm, a lot of stupid game years.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, but the worst thing the Raiders did in the
last ten to fifteen years is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Who was the coach that they had just fired? Somebody?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
They had an interim head coach that everybody loved, Rich Yes, yeah, right,
give him the job, the job, damn it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well they did that before, you know, somebody. This is
always the danger of an interim head coach when you
go on a run and then all of a sudden
we go yeah, mean you got to give him the job.
I mean, come on, Antonio Pierce, you got to give
him the job. And then all of a sudden, you
give him the job. Nel, why do we give him
the job? Drod Mayo, Man, you got to give him
the job. He's been waiting. Uh not good? Yeah, pulling
(08:41):
well with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Rich Pisacia not getting the job in twenty twenty one
was so criticized that they gave Antonio Pierce the job
two years later as a compensation for not doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dylan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Are you doing lay to son to talk about the
foam connection?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is not very good there, Dylan, Try again, Michael and
Fort Wayne. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Hey, listen, the Winter Olympics are coming up real soon,
and I think we all want to know, as a
former Olympian, who do you like to stay from the
Golden cross country scheme this year?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah? I'm apparently a former baseball player now an Olympian.
Thank you, Michael. Yeah, I got to check my Wikipedia
page because it might be a little bit more full
than it needs to be. Chris and Syracuse, Hi Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (09:48):
Hey, I have a couple of items to throw at you.
And this day in sports history. You know, in the
last two years teams will buy in college football playoffs
are one and seven. It seems like having to buy
in the three plus week later that comes with it
isn't really an advantage. And I can't wait till they
go with a sixteen team playoff, There'll be no reason
to have buys. Just go straight to a nice four
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round playoff. And as Polly said, gosh, it was probably
fifteen sixteen years ago college football would own the month
of December. And Andy Reid says he'll be back next year,
but Mahomes is out to start the year. You're not
in a good salary cap position. And a couple assistants
said left in fact once related to the Michigan head coach,
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and he's head Ann Arbor and Ellie and Denver a
on the rise and the Biggie Casey's facing pretty much
a rebuild. And at this stage Andy Reid's career, why
would he want to sign up for a rebuild? I mean,
he's won super Bowls and yeah, I wouldn't be surprised
if Andy Reid is not coaching next ball. And this
day in sports history, thirty two years ago, Nancy Kerrigan
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was clubbed on her knees, which led directly to you
Dan being falsely accused of making a skeptical of Time's career.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I know I did, thank you, Thank you, Chris. What
a wild story that was, Nancy Kerrigan, Tanya Harding my girl,
and then we had her on and yeah. You know,
sometimes I can give myself credit for having a good idea,
and then other times where I'm doing an interview and
(11:21):
I go, but it's a bad idea. While I'm doing
the interview, I know it's a bad idea, but it
did live on. It lives on and show infamy of
Tanya Harding, and God love her. I hope she's happy
doing a triple Shaukal or whatever they do and figure
skating right now.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, that was the nineteen ninety four Winter Olympics. You
talk about a story that crossed over everyone worldwide.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, then they have I mean the fact
that they had a movie it Tanya like Margo Robbie,
it's a big time actress, and she pulled it off too.
But you know, I'm thinking, all right, a movie about
Tanya Harding, and then all of a sudden I'm watching
had helped that Margot Robbie was Tanya Harding. Yeah, Margot
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Robbie could hit me in the shin with a club,
any fine. Aspired to that Tea Bucks in Texas, Hey,
Tea Bucks.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Hey, how are you dp good? I got a quick
like fuck Mike t brought it up and the whole
thing with Andrew Berry still being there as the dam
of the Browns. First off, I have no idea how
he kept it. But if there's a coach out there,
say like at Clint Kubiak or someone that's hot, why
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wouldn't they bring them in and get rid of Andrew
Berry if that's what they want A lah Liam Cohen.
And then one other quick thing about Kevin Savanski being
a great coach or a good coach. I've never seen
a coach two weeks in a row towards the end
of the season only challenge a play in the first
minute of the game, but lose both of them.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
He's going to get a job. I mean, you can
say what you want about Stefanski. He's held in high regard.
He is. And the fact that the guy you don't
want is going to interview probably with three of these teams,
it says a lot about maybe the organization and about
Kevin Stefanski. Now, did he do a good job with
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shad Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel If you're saying, hey,
he's supposed to be developing these quarterbacks, No, he didn't.
But neither should have been playing this year, and they'll be.
There'll be a story that comes out eventually about this
whole quarterbacking situation, how they got to this point because
they had too many quarterbacks and then all of a sudden,
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you have two quarterbacks, and then do you really have
one quarterback? Here is the Browns general manager Andrew Barry.
Coming into the season.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
We were realistic that, you know, we were a team
and a roster in transition, and ultimately this decision is
born from the fact that we've ultimately felt like we
did not see enough progress in areas that were controllable
independent of certain game outcomes.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, you also put a fifth round draft pick in there.
If I take the name away from should or Sanders,
he's you know, Jim Smith. People aren't infatuating with the Browns.
People aren't overrating the Browns. People aren't looking at Kevin
Stefanski and saying you're the problem here. It was a
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fifth round draft pick who had some success, uh, but
wasn't refined to be starting in the NFL. There's a
reason why he dropped. Now you can have revisionist history
and people say I'm a second round draft pick. You know,
second round, third round at word, Okay, he still dropped.
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I think there's more to the story of drafting him
and putting him in that position. Now, am I glad
that he got a chance to give us a sample size? Yes,
but he was really non threatening. He had a couple
of moments. But he should have a couple of moments.
I mean, he's the starting quarterback at Colorado and Jackson
State and played really well. But the NFL is just different.
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That's when you go to the line of scrimmage, what
do I got?
Speaker 10 (15:35):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It feels like that's the position. Now go to the
line of scrimmage and you go, all right, what do
we got? I got two plays? What am I gonna call?
Can you do that? And it's it's something that has
to be learned. That's why when you talk to quarterbacks
and they'll say, you know, my second third year started
to the game slowed down. Well, it slowed down because
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you knew what you were doing. You slowed it down
in your mind instead of oh my god, wait is
that guy coming off to what's my coverage? Wait? Are
they under two? That you can't have that kind of
frenetic feel when you go to the line of scrimmage,
and Dylan Gabriel was non threatening as well, wonderful college quarterback.
But you got to be able to throw. You got
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to throw in the flats. Can you throw out? You know,
to the the numbers. Can you process all of this?
And that's why it was unfair to really expect that much.
And maybe they bring in another quarterback. Maybe, you know,
Shador and Dylan get a chance to be backup quarterbacks.
You know, maybe they'll be starting quarterbacks. Kobe Brissett's been
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bouncing around for a long time. Tyler Huntley, you can
have a job. I just don't know if I would
be pinning all my hopes if I'm the Browns on
Shador Sanders. Yeah, Paul, you could make the case.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
At the Browns, they had the twelfth ranked defense in
the league and the best defensive player this year. The
offense was ranked thirty first. If they would have been
aggressive and had gone after some like Sam Darnold or
Daniel Jones and I had a B level quarterback, they
won five games with basically no quarterback play. They could
have won nine. But they can't do that at quarterback
because all their money is tied up in a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know he got Andrew Berry talking
about you know, the team. Now they should have traded
Miles Garrett. I mean, he's great, but he doesn't play
in playoff games. That's why when people say, oh, greatest
defensive player of all time, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, they
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played in big games, they played in Super Bowls. That's
what I wish we would get with Miles Garrett, where
he get to play on him. He should be playing
this weekend. That's the unfortunate part of this. Michael Strahan
played in big games. T J. Watt playing in big games,
Aaron Donald in big games. You can have maybe one
of the greatest defensive players of all time and he's
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not going to play in really many meaningful games. It's
like having Mike Trout and you're only playing in a
couple of playoff games.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Yes, Marvin, Unfortunately, he's gonna be the defensive version of
Joe Thomas first First Ball Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, no playoff success. We'll take a break. Kyle Winningham,
the Michigan head coach, will join us next here on
The Dan Patrick Show.
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Check us out on YouTube and subscribe. He's the new
head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham, former Utah head coach
Tuton pac twelve Coach of the Year and went ten
and two at Utah this year and then was going
to go into an advisory role and be paid to
stay on at Utah at least that was the report.
(19:13):
And then all of a sudden Michigan, that job opened
up and Kyle Whittingham was there to take the phone call.
We spoke to him yesterday and I started off by
asking him, is he having a midlife crisis?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, well good question. But you know, I had a
really good run at Utah. It was a great experience.
Thirty two years in all, twenty one years as the
head coach. I figured I'd done pretty much all I
could do there, and I'm still not that old, sixty six.
I guess that's, you know, not that old. But I
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thought when I stepped down, first of all, I didn't
want to be that guy that over state is welcome,
you know, I don't, you know, I've seen that happen
too many times where guys stayed too long get run
out of town. So didn't want to be that guy.
But just felt like, Okay, there's been a good run.
Let's leave on a positive note. And when I did
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step down, I had an inclination in my mind that
if there was about you know, you count on one
hand the amount of schools that if they would have called,
I would have been receptive. And just so happens. About
two or three days later, I had some contact with
Michigan and they were on that list, and one thing
led to another about a weaker. Ten days later it
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was a done deal.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You contact them or they contact you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Well, it's my agent, and I'm not sure how the
initial thing went. Of course, there's a search committee guy,
the head of the search committee. I don't know who
was contacted who first, but that's how that's how it went.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What kind of questions do you have going into a situation.
We all know how great the job is, but man
feels like there's a little bit of a mess to
clean up, you know, for the next year or so.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, you know, it's the place doesn't need a rebuild,
it needs a reboot of trust and get rid of
the drama and and just get back to playing Michigan
football without all the distractions. You know. The one thing
is it didn't come from the players. You know, the
players were not involved. It wasn't some player you know
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issue it was. It was, you know, just the peripheral.
And so guys here have a great attitude. I met
with every single one of them at the bull site
last week. Just quality young men, care about academics, excited
to be at Michigan. But they've dealt with a lot
over the last years, and so that's where they're at.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What did you need to hear.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I needed to hear that they were having a good
experience here exclusive of the of the distractions.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The athletic director and the you know, the the higher ups.
What did you need to hear from them?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Well, I need to hear that Michigan was what I
thought it was, you know, a top five program, which
I don't think there's any doubt about that. It's a
special place. They're committed to winning here. You know, we
do have some challenges with entrance requirements. There is there
is a little bit of a hurdle there. But you know,
you talk about athletes, resources, tradition, it's all here at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You haven't been out of Utah or Idaho.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
I don't think you're right, right, how as a coach,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, So what do you need to learn about, you know,
being in Michigan, in the Big ten, in hating Ohio state.
Now you've got to deal with Indiana.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
And yeah, well we would transfer our moving leagues. Is no, no,
nothing new to me or where I was at. And
you went from the WHAC to the Mountain West, to
the Pac twelve to the Big twelve and I was
there through it all, and so I know exactly how
to how to you know, navigate that. You know, we've
had a pretty good track record against Big ten schools
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while I was at Utah. In fact, against Michigan. We're
three and oh, so that didn't hurt my cause during
the during the process, the hiring process. But but uh,
football is football then, and and it's ex's and o's.
They don't change. Certainly, the you know, the level of
competition is increased, but it's relative. I mean, we're good
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players here, so so it's uh, I think it's a
good situation.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
JU hate Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Don't I have to? Yeah, I think I have to.
But but uh.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Seminar that there, and I know Urban Urban was helping you.
Uh wasn't.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Absolutely. I've been close with Urban ever since. We worked together,
uh back in uh O two and O three, and
I was his defensive coordinator. I was on the staff
staff got let go, Urban got the job. I was
the only holdover and uh Riddy developed a great relationship
with him and have maintained it ever since. And yeah,
he absolutely helped me. Uh along the way.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Here Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head football coach, joining us. I'm
trying to figure out this transfer portal, so am I.
But I'm also trying to figure out the collective and
nil dollar. I mean, somebody just told me over the
weekend that some of these programs are getting to forty
million dollar budgets, forty million plus. Absolutely, I mean it
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doesn't feel sustainable, Kyle, It's not.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
It's not sustainable. There's no question about that. Something has
got to give. And I think it's you know, within
a two to two to four five year window here,
you're going to see a major overhaul Division one football.
I think it's going to become more of a minor
league NFL model. I think you're going to see a
(24:36):
solar cap, collective bargaining, uh, players as employees. I think
all that's coming because you're exactly right, we can't maintain
this pace. It's impossible.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Can we have a commissioner?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yes, I would love one. I think that's I think
that's in the cards as well.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But is everybody going to listen? Is the SEC going
to listen or the big ten?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I mean they have to, they have to. And I
think if we get you know, ultimately aligned with the
super conferences and uh, you know, get things commission you know,
have a commissioner that runs it all and put some
teeth into it, I think that's the only way to survive.
And so and you're already seeing private equity starting to
end the Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Where are we going with the playoffs? It's probably going
to sixteen next year, but where are we going?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well to sixteen? First of all, and I kind of
agree with coach Dan Landing at the Oregon it would
be nice to have the season wrapped up by January first,
especially the way the portal window is right now. I mean,
it's chaos, and so I think there needs to be revamping,
not only if of the system itself, but at least
immediately the calendar. The calendar needs to be tweaked.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What kind of money are we talking about? What's a
top end quarterback costing now? In the portal?
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I heard today that one university in the state of
Texas is paying five million dollars for a starting quarterback
for this year, and so I think that might be
the the That's the most I've heard of, and I
you know, basketball players, some basketball player are making more
than that from what you hear. But the starting quarterback
now apparently the price is five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Is Bryce Underwood staying?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
We hope?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
So?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I think he's had he's got a got a good vibe. Uh,
you don't know, Well, you don't know anything yet. I mean, shoot,
it's a it's the wild wild West here, Dan. And
so we think we think we're in a good place
with Bryce. He's a terrific young man. I've sat down
with him and and uh he is the really the
heart and soul of this football team. And uh, I
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think we're making good progress towards that end.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We're curious if we could have your old Utah gear.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, I can have a shift out to you. It's
all xcel. You got one size to choose from.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But uh, boy, that's that's a big color change for you.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
It is it is, You're right, Yeah, red to blue
and blue was our was our rival. You know, it
was a Utah for years and so now I got
to get used to saying go blue.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
But I tell them, okay, but did you hate b
Yu as much as you're gonna hate?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Okay, hate a strong word. But how about an intense,
very intense rivalry? And uh it was very uh in
the state of Utah. I mean it's the biggest single
sporting event.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That was an unbelievable rivalry though very underrated. But but
you know, having two daughters who lived in Salt Lake
and it's like you did. Yeah. No, they both they
both left, they both came back home. Yeah, they loved it,
they loved Salt Lake. But they said, uh that that rivalry,
you don't understand it until you go to it, exactly.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So because I grew up Ohio State Michigan, right, and
I always think that there's no better rivalry. But there
there are ones. When you go to them, you understand
the importance. It's just not national magnitude like Ohio State
and Michigan are.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Doesn't have the national bandwidth that uh, that we have
in this rivalry. But it is every bit is intense
and every bit as uh. You know that the animosity
in the in the state and you're either red or
blue in that state, and it's pretty well split. I mean,
it's almost an even division there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Could you take Ryan Day when you were younger, when
I was younger, or could you take him now so
he's forty six? Yeah? Could you take Ryan Day right
now in the octagon.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
In an acting on Well, there's one way to find out.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I don't know. I like Ryan I got a lot
of respect for him. We played him in the in
the Rose Bowl, a couple of years back. Well, I
guess it's been him three or four years now, so
excellent football coach.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I don't have to say nice things anymore, man, it's
best that you don't.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Okay, I know, I'll probably put my foot in my
mouth right there.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Uh, congrats, good luck, Appreciate.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You, us appreciate you, dun thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We taped that yesterday. Five hours later, Bryce Underwood tweeted
that he was staying at Michigan. But you could hear
it in his voice when he said is your quarterback
going to be staying? He's like, uh, hope. So he
didn't know. Yeah, do you think he didn't know? Well,
if he knew, then why wouldn't he say.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, I mean maybe he wanted the player to announce it.
I mean that's kind of the way things work now,
you know. The player announces they're leaving, the player announces
they're staying. I wonder if he really had no idea.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, Paulie, I would.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Speculate that these days there was probably a renegotiation of
his contract at Michigan and it was not signed yet,
and that when we spoke to him, it was there
was not ink on the page yet.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I believe that. Yeah, yeah, because it feels like everybody
who's in the transfer portal, or the potential for every
player to be in the transfer portal, because you know,
you want to you want to at least find out
what the market is for you, or have somebody find
that out for you. And you know, as Kyle was saying,
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Cincinnati's quarterback is getting five million dollars to go to
Texas Tech. Now that's that's changed as far as the price,
because as I told told you, I think before the
holiday break, I was told that the going rate for
a quarterback transferring was three to four million dollars. And
now all of a sudden, you get Cincinnati's quarterback. I
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don't know his name. Let me see, have you seen
his name? I should have that, but I know that
he was obviously a very good quarterback and he's going
to Texas Tech and getting five million dollars. So yes,
Marvin Brandon Soresby, Okay, all right, yeah, five million dollars.
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And you know, as I told you that source said
there was a high school tight end and there were
two major college programs that were paying him and he
was still in high school. But it's basically, hey, we're
going to give you the money. We're giving you the
money before you even you know, get to college. We're
going to give you the money in high school. And
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he a decorated player and he was getting paid while
I mean that's where they're starting. I mean the same thing.
Look at the shoe industry, it's we're not waiting for
you to get to the NBA. We're not waiting for
you to get to college. We're not waiting for you
to get to high school. We're going aau. We're going
as early as possible to get you in our shoes,
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to get you in the program, get your free gear.
This is the same thing. It's like you're grooming to
get them to go to your school. What's it going
to take and when do you start? This is what's
going on right now. They and even as coach said,
this isn't sustainable that you have programs who are going
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to be spending forty to fifty million dollars a year.
Now some can, but you know you're and you can't say, well, Congress,
you guys fix this because we can't. And really that's
almost the mindset. It feels like, hey, nothing, what can do?
Maybe Congress can help us. I think Congress has other
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things they're probably working on, but you know we can
check the docket. Yes, Marvin, are.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
You're gonna see a lot more mid season changes like
you did this season because they're paying all this money.
They're like, we're not seeing results, so you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah. I mean we see this in the NFL, where
you get you get two years. It feels like two
years is a coach, two years is a quarterback. Before
we you know, rubber stamp you as your franchise quarterback
or you're our coach, or you're a bust or you
should be just a coordinator not a head coach. I
mean that's it's getting quicker and quicker because the money
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is getting bigger and bigger, and you want to know
right away that is that our guy? If not, we
got to move on.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
So, I I.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Know that the money in college football and how much
players are being paid as a controversial issue, but like,
take someone like Brandon Swordsby you're just talking about he
is going to make more money than shirdor Sanders is
going to make. I kind of like the idea that
the money that these kids are gonna make keeps them
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in college football longer, so they actually develop more. And
that then maybe the players that are supposed to make
it to the NFL do go to the NFL, and
the ones that aren't still have a good chunk of change,
but they probably aren't gonna eventually get there. The developed
ones will be more apparent.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, but you have to stay three years in college football,
so you have a built in system that protects college
football from the standpoint of these names may bounce around,
but they stay. College basketball doesn't have that, so you
don't have any familiarity with college basketball, at least with football.
You go, oh, that guy used to be and you're right.
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You might stay for your senior year is instead of
coming out after your junior year in college football, but
you're already locked in for three years. Where college basketball,
I'm one and done. I mean, all of these guys
we looked at and we go, that guy's one and done.
All the marquee players one and done. Even the money
that you could make and Cooper Flagg reportedly was making
(34:04):
around two point six million dollars at Duke. He was
the highest paid player two point six Now what would
he be worth if he came back? What five million dollars,
maybe more than that. He wants to get into that
second contract in the NBA when he's gonna get sixty
or seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, but maybe even still just staying for that extra
year of development. There's not the I get the rush
to the second contract. I definitely get that. However, there
is something I think there's something to be said about
another year of development rather than being pushed too early.
You know, I they if you're leaving college football with
a couple million dollars in your pocket, there really isn't
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that same rush to get there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's like Ty Simpson and Alabama. You know, greg Or
was some of the who is it? McCarran said, Hey,
I would tell him to stay and you know, you
need another year. He might be in the transfer portal.
He got hurt in that game against Indiana, maybe a
cracked rib, but it looked like he might have been
getting benched as well. And is he going to transfer?
(35:08):
Does he does he want to go into the NFL?
And I think mccaren said he would probably be a
fifth or sixth round quarterback, but that he should stay.
And not everybody has guidance though now we think that,
Oh man, you know somebody, there's a lot of people
with a lot of agendas, who hey, I'd go pro
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because people helping you with that decision might be getting
money from you with that decision. Yeah, palling.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Another great example is Carson Beck, who's a hot property
a year and a half ago. Then he really cooled
off as a draft prospect, you know, and parlayed a
big payday from Miami.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, Quinn ewers as well. I mean, it's it's working
out for Quinn, but Texas didn't want him to stay
another year. I think he wanted to stay another year. Like, no,
I think we're good.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Arch.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's it's Arch's term. All right, more phone calls coming up.
We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Uh you know, they signed multiple players in the portal
for over seven million dollars in twenty twenty five. Now
(36:23):
they just spend five million dollars on their quarterback. Reportedly,
he is Brendan Soorsby who was at Cincinnati, got these
guys who are making more money than starting quarterbacks in
the NFL and making more, well, not making more than
cam Ward. Is he making more than Tyler Shuck with
(36:43):
the New Orleans Saints? Probably? So, you know, Tyler Shuck
had a pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Nobody noticed, but he had a pretty good year for
the Saints, made them competitive, had some pretty good numbers there,
and uh, you know, they kind of threw him in
and he survived. So and I think a lot of
people thought he might be the most quarterback ready because
of his age and experienced number of games when he
(37:08):
played in college. Jackson dard I thought was a first
round draft pick and proved to be at the end
of the first round. But Tyler Shuck was probably ready
to go, maybe sooner than any of the other quarterbacks.
All right, Oh, Paulie wants to play the guess that
firing game? Oh okay, Now we usually.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Play this on a Monday after the football season. A
rare Guess that firing on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's messed up? Then, why come on, what are you
doing that on Tuesday?
Speaker 10 (37:39):
For?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
This is what we spent like the whole first home
you can. This is supposed to be I think I
made a Tuesday. Yes, not Wow, sucks to be you Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Okay, see, and you're right on because the hint is
in your complaint. What would a which team would maybe
do it on a Tuesday so they could garner more
attention than other teams?
Speaker 8 (37:58):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You want to stand out for this team?
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Does?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Being Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
The Dallas Cowboys of fire defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. They
are now answer their fourth defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
In four season.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Okay, the Cowboys could have easily done this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
They teased it last week. Well, who are they bringing in?
Like anybody but Matt Abra No, but I saw where
they were bringing in somebody. It's already been a name
attached to this. Yes, Todd, do you do that?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Do you fire the head coaches Monday than the coordinators?
Speaker 5 (38:27):
They are more of a midweek Tuesday Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah they're not They're not Monday worthy. Yeah, you got
to wait a couple day. Yeah Tuesday. Ashton in Vegas, Hey, Ashton,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (38:42):
Just first time, long time, thanks for taking my call. Uh,
curious to see if you guys have heard anything, but
come across my social media a couple of times where
Geno Smith is reportedly surprised and frustrated that they let
Pete Carroll go, and it's like, well, if you wanted
him to, they maybe throw to your own team.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, what do you have? Seventeen interceptions? I think this year.
I guess there's a little bit of surprise with that.
I mean the surprise was they hired him at his
age with that team, and it's and it's it was
going to take a few years. I don't I now,
I had higher expectations for them, but they were lofty
(39:23):
expectations because I was thinking, you know what, they got
a running back, quarterback, tight end, and they got a
you know, impact edge rusher. Okay, challenging division, yes, but
maybe you can win eight or nine games, yes, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Going back to the signing of Geno Smith by the Raiders,
a lot of people liked it at the time. It
was a friendly contract. Financially, he just went ten and
seven as the Seattle quarterback with twenty one touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It was considered a nice move.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I didn't have a problem with you know Smith because
it looked like he had, you know, kind of had
that renaissance that we see with a lot of these quarterbacks. Yes,
how many of those were rcis Yeah, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
This is a classic instance of why we need that
stat receiver calls to interception or every weekend. Yeah, and
they go on your docket.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well not every weekend with the Jets, no weekends. They
didn't have one where the receiver went the wrong way
and the quarterback threw and somebody got an interception. Unbelievable. Yes, Mark.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
The sad part is Sauce Gardener probably wouldn't help that either,
because he was an intercepting ball like that either.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
No, man, you forget about that move that the Colts
made and you're thinking, man, they're all in and then
all of a sudden they're all out.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yes, Marv Jonathan Taylor was an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
He was, Yeah, because I was making him an MVP candidate.
But you know I did preface that by saying they
won't give it to a running back. But at the time,
through what eight games, he was a big deal. But
you wonder about that. They got to get a quarterback,
Danny Dimes. I'm not gonna be ready to start the season,
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