August 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Former NFL QB Mark Sanchez drops by to clear the air about the new rules in the NFL and how teams are likely to adjust. And Dan talks about some of the greatest athletes who never quite reached their potential for greatness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangsall here.
It's our two talks in football form an NFL quarterback
Mark Sanchez. We'll stop by what's he think of the
new kickoff rules? And let's look ahead to next year's
Hall of Fame class. I'm going to ask him who
he thinks gets in Jeremy Shaft for the Mothership. A
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little bit later on will join us from Paris to
wrap up a very very busy weekend. And it started
early with golf and tennis, Scottie Scheffler winning the gold.
Novak Djokovic wins the gold as well. Noah Lyles then
wins the gold in the one hundred meters. Those are winners.
The White Sox are losers.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They've dropped twenty in a row, one shy of the
record set by the Orioles in nineteen eighty eight. That
would be the modern day record. We are in Raleigh,
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in Raleigh, North Carolina. A lot of great memories in
Kerrie in Raleigh, North Carolina. Spent a lot of time
down there playing in Jimmy ve golf tournaments as well.
Great people, great support for that cause as well. So
great to be in Raleigh, North Carolina. Stat of the
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cards of the program, seating the results of the poll
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question from our one and what are we going with
in hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's see hour one, we had up there who had
the best weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Right now, Scotti, Scheffler and Noah Lyles pretty much tied
for the best weekend. Novak Djokovic and the Hall of
Fame bus Maker not getting a lot of traction there.
We also have up there who had the worst weekend
Michigan Football, Chicago White Sox, John ram or other, and
we put up there I'm rooting for the White Sox
to win asap.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Or keep losing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Okay, Early results on that have eighty seven percent of
the audience want them to keep losing.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, if it's your team, do you want your team
to be good? Be great at being bad?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But the Orioles in nineteen eighty eight lost twenty one
in didn't they start this season losing twenty one in
a row? Does that sound right? And I think cal
Ripkin was with that Orioles team. Twenty one in a
row might have been to start the year, but the
White Sox faced the Oakland A's big series coming up
in Oakland. The Socks have won twenty seven games, and
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the only other team since nineteen hundred to lose at
least eighty seven of its first one hundred fourteen games
the nineteen sixty sixteen Philadelphia Athletics. They went twenty five
eighty eight and one. They had a tie twenty five
eighty eight and one.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Woo.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Stead of a day, Stana day stand outa day Stannata day.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
This is the stant of the day's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Out of the day, brought to you Mypanani America. The
official trading cards of the program. The White Sox payroll
is twice the amount of the Oakland A's.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Twice the amount.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Twenty losses in a row. All right, A couple of
things here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The Hall of Fame induction ceremony over the weekend overshadowed
by the Olympics, which is unfortunate because you almost feel
like a lot of these players who went into the
Hall of Fame did get overshadowed in their career. You know,
Steve McMichael wasn't known as the best defensive player for
the Chicago Bears. Dan Hampton probably was, or Mike singletearing.
You know, you had Richard Dent as well, but Steve
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McMichael going into the Hall of Fame. Andre Johnson came
out of the U and kind of disappeared when he
played in Houston. Not his fault. But once again, Randy
gratischar they didn't win a Super Bowl, went to a
Super Bowl, the Orange Crush, and when you think of
great linebackers, randhar gets lost in You know, a lot
of the bigger names there. See, you had some of
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these players. You know, Julius Peppers got a lot of
attention when he was in college. He played basketball. They
went to the Final four and then Michael Jordan shows up.
He gives a shout out to Michael Jordan, and just
the reaction. See, you have all of these Hall of
Famers there, you know, Emmett's there, I mean, go down
the list. All of a sudden they realized Michael Jordan
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is in the building, and it's different. It's just they
all fanboy Mike. But Julius Peppers, who he's one of
those guys. If you said, okay, coming out, I thought
that this guy was going to be a Hall of Famer.
Like Miles Garrett, I think is going to be a
Hall of famer. Watching him, I went, okay, he's a
Hall of famer. Adrian Peterson I thought he was going
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to be a Hall of Famer. Julius Peppers, I didn't.
I just knew he was really athletic, but I didn't
know if he was going to be one of those
guys who would be able to play football Athletically he
could be on the field. That's one of those oh
could a basketball player play football? Well, they can. They
just have to learn how to use leverage, you know,
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use their size. And I didn't know that with Julius Peppers,
I didn't know. He looked like he could be a
Hall of Famer. I just didn't know if he was
going to be able to at that size be great.
Miles Garrett, you watch him and then you go, he's
going to be a Hall of Famer. But there's certain guys.
Adrian Peterson his freshman year at Oklahoma, I go, oh,
my God. But if you look at guys who have
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gone into the Hall of Fame, and I gotta carefully
word this because I don't want to say you were
disappointed or they didn't live up to what you thought
they were. Like you know, Calvin Johnson, I thought he
was going to be greater. Adrian Peterson, I thought he
was going to be greater. And I don't know if
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it's a knock on them as much as it is
just my expectator. Like Mike Troun's going to go into
the Hall of Fame and we're going to say he
probably should have been better. Can you think of other
athletes in any sport where you go, I thought they
were going to be better, and look it's not. Ken
Gerfey Junior comes to mind, Like I thought Junior was
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going to be even greater, And I guess it speaks
to just how great they were that they're Hall of famers,
but we still expected more. And Mike Trump came to mind,
Adrian Peterson came to mine, and Julius Peppers I didn't know.
I didn't think he was going to be a Hall
of Famer. I just thought he was going to be
one of those big guys that you go like Jadeveon Clowney.
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I didn't think he was going to be a Hall
of Famer because he didn't have any lower torso I'm
ever talking with a teammate of his who said he
gets pushed around. But if you remember that Pro day
the Mothership, everybody was raving. I think Teddy Bruski, Jaws,
some of those guys were like, oh my god, this
is the best Pro Day we've ever seen. Well, I
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don't put too much credit in, you know, pro days,
because JaMarcus Russell had the greatest Pro Day a quarterback
has ever had. Zach Wilson had a really good Pro Day.
But I just remember there's certain players where you go,
like Andrey Johnson, I never would have thought would have
been a Hall of Fame, even though when you watched
him it look like he was a grown ass man
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going against college players even when he was in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, PAULI Adrian Peterson's a good call. His career numbers
when he's on the field are probably almost one of
the best ever. He missed thirty five games due to
injury and suspension. If he plays thirty of those thirty
five games, he passes Emmitt Smith. Yeah, easily. He's right
at Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And it's not you know, it's not fair to look
at Calvin Johnson and say I expected more, but I do.
I did just because how great he was. And it's
almost like the big man in basketball, aren't you supposed
to be great?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Like Shack? Shack should have been greater?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, And maybe you know it's not fair to him,
but I think when you watched him play, you're like,
kind of how comany he's not even greater at what
he does. It's not like I looked at Kobe and
I go, you know, he should have been greater. I mean,
he got everything he could out of his abilities. There
there's certain players that you just go, Okay, they did
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everything they could possibly do. Maybe it's because of the
expectation level, you go, god, he should have been better.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
Yeah, Mark, do you have Wil Chamberlain in that category
as far as not. I know he's got tons of
individual records, but he's only got two rings.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But I don't know, like Wilt did incredible things. I
just think usually his team was not as good as
the Boston Celtics. I mean it came down to that.
If Bill Russell doesn't play in the NBA. Will Chamberlain
probably has quite a few NBA titles. Bill Russell and
the Celtics had their number, not just Bill Russell, because
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Will put up incredible numbers against Bill Russell. But I
think I think Wilt he really needed other rivals. I mean,
he had Bill Russell, but I think he was going
against guys and probably got into bad habits. He never
had a signature move and he wasn't smooth with what
he did. He was just physically dominant and a great athlete.
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But yeah, I guess winning I probably would have thought
he would have won more even in college.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
He didn't win either, Yeah, Mark.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Is that why he's not revered like Babe Ruth?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, Babe won. Babe was on great teams, not that
Wilt wasn't on great teams. I just never thought Wilt
came up big when he needed to come up big.
Babe is a folk hero. I mean there's a mythology
to Babe because you were listening on radio, and there's
something about that when you're listening on radio, like you're
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leaving it up to somebody else to describe somebody for you.
And then sometimes they can describe them better than if
you were just watching them, and they make them seem
larger than life, and he was larger than life. He
was bigger than the game of baseball. But yeah, there's
just certain athletes where you and Babe could have been
better too, which is weird to say. Won nearly one
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hundred games and of course all of his hitting records,
but if he continued to be a pitcher, could he
have won three hundred, three hundred and fifty games? But
it felt like, yeah, he didn't take care Mickey Mantle.
Mickey Mantle's another one where I thought, Yeah, that guy
is faster than anybody to first base in baseball, had
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power speed, and got injured, didn't take care of himself,
and you're left wondering what could have been.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, Pauling, this is a little bit different. But you
started this topic with people you thought were going to
the Hall of Fame when you saw them earlier. If
you would have told me at the time that Bo Jackson,
Michael Vick, and Andrew luck All would not go to
the Hall of Fame, I would have gone the other
side of that bet hard. Yeah, I know injuries played
a part to it. With Luck as injury in the
decision vic he he sabotaged his own career and injuries
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with Bo Jackson. But those three guys are not in
the Hall of Fame. Yeah, and if you saw them
in college.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Now, Andrew Luck, I didn't know that he was going
to be great, like truly all time great. But then
I watched him, and then I realized they have a
terrible offensive line and he is going to be lucky
to survive.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
And it proved to be true.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But he had, you know, the family tree with his
dad in an NFL quarterback, and he was going to
the right team at the right time. It felt like
replacing Peyton. But yeah, Andrew Luck, I didn't look at
him as as a surefire Hall of Famer. Bo Jackson
I did, And certainly Michael Vick. Michael Vick in college,
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that's where you go. He's going to be unbelievable in
the NFL, and at times he was, but Mike just
didn't put in the time. He's one of those guys
and I and I liken him from the talent aspect
to like Kyler Murray, they were so oh good, And
what they did I wondered, did they need to did
they need to work on it? Did they need to study?
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And they didn't. Brett Farv's the same way, like putting
in that extra time. I think Farv just thought I
just get out there and I just sling it, and
he did and he should have been greater. And I'm
sure there's going to be a lot of other players
that come to mind, and look, Calvin Johnson's a incredible athlete. Uh,
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but I just I kept thinking that he was going
to be greater than what he was. And then you
get a guy like Tom Brady and you would have
went that guy might make a roster like the other
the other players who come into their sports, and you go, man,
he's lucky to be holding on there.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Yeah, Mark, Well, we.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Look at Aaron Rodgers that way, like he should have
been better because of his playoff record, right results.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, results. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And you know Adrian Peterson when you saw him and
I thought, it's like Marshall Falk. When I saw him
as freshman year, I was like, he's the best running
back in college football right now?
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Give him the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Adrian Peterson best running back in football college football. Give
him the Heisman. There are just certain guys where you go.
He's different. When I saw Jay Simpson when he was
at USC and he said that guy is going to
be the best running back in football, and for a
little while he was, Yeah, Pauling, you were.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Doing sports that. I remember this so well. Marshall Falk
had a game his freshman year at San Diego State,
where was it three hundred and forty seven yards or
some number like that, And you guys did Sports Center
and you were hosting, and then they replayed the game
and we were in my fraternity house and we stayed
up and watched it again. Yeah, And I remember saying,
this guy's got to wait two and a half more
years to go pro. He may have a case.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was incredible, though. They're just certain guys that you know, Herschel,
there's another one. Herschel should have been greater, Like he
might be up there on the Mount Rushmore of God.
But you know, you didn't get to see the US,
which which I did because they were, you know, the
New Jersey Generals and I got to cover them for
one one season.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
But I would say Herschel would be up there. Yeah, Mark,
should he get.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
More consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Because
of what he did in the USFO or did he
not do enough as a whole?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think you should. I mean, it's a professional league.
There were a lot of great players in the USFL.
It's like the ABA. Combine the stats, you know, Now
we're bringing in the know stats from the negro leagues. Like,
let's be fair to everybody here. If you're in a
professional league, then we should recognize those stats. And I
don't think we've done enough of that. I don't think
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we did that with the USFL with any numbers here.
Now here's another one. Do you bring in the Canadian
Football League with what Warren Moon did? Now he's already
Hall of Famer, but I mean he won went five
great Cups there, you know? Is that something that you
bring in Now? It's a different style. Okay, it is
called the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's it's like
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the it's not the NBA Basketball Hall of Fame. It's
the basketball Hall of Fame. Yeah it is. But not
all leads are created, yeah, the same. You're right, So
I get if you're a standout performer in this one league, say,
but usually if you're a standout performer in a lower league,
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you jump up to the bigger one. Well, are we
including the AFL stats in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We do, right, Yeah, I'm looking at they don't have
specific rationale the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I
got a thing here that said Warren Moon gets like
bonus for a CFL because he wanted to be in
the NFL. Yeah, he did enough work in the NFL
to get in a loan. I think he was an
eight time All Pro, but like he wanted to be
in before each twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, and I don't know I understand. You know, people
might say, oh, it's a secondary league. Well, the AFL
wasn't really a secondary league to the NFL. In my eyes,
they were more exciting. That was that was the New
Age offense. And then we saw what Namath did, We
saw what the Kansas City Chiefs did, and the A
B A, the ABA had so much talent and I
could have put up the best in the ABA against
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the best in the NBA and I would have liked
my choice there.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
So I think that it's it's easy to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But when you start to look at combining stats and
you know they are you know, it's the basketball Hall
of Fame. It's the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and
I think, you know, until there's a designation that says
we're not going to include that, then we should, you know,
collaborate with a lot of these numbers that certainly these
guys put up in their great careers. All right, Mark
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analyst form NFL quarterback joining us on the program. Got
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a small sample size here with the new kickoff rules,
your reaction is what I think You're on?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Mute?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
You love them on? You there?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm better? I'm better that way. It's like a silent movie.
You know you never sounded off anyway?
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Uh six to two and a quarter two hundred and
thirty eight pounds. Hit me?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
What were you when you played?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Like my first year, I was probably two twenty five,
so I weigh a loft one now than I did,
And I think my second and third year I got
up to like after my rookie year, I ended up
at like two eighteen two nineteen, so real light. And
then my second, third and fourth year I got up
to like almost two thirty five to start camp. So
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I'd end the season around to twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Five, Lamar Jackson is losing weight? Is that a good
thing from Mark Jackson?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I thought last year he was gaining weight. Remember, he
like put on a little more muscle. He had a
little more uh you know, curves to the arms and stuff.
He looked like he was doing a little more TV
arms and just to you know, it's it's a brutal game,
especially when you play that style like Lamar Jackson. Obviously
that wasn't necessarily my style, but you just I think
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a lot of it's distress. It's you know, the physical
aspect of it, and you're just constantly burning calories, so
you can't take in enough and so you inevitably just
start losing weight.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They have a small sample size on the new kickoff rule.
Your reaction is what so far?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
It's interesting. It reminds me of the XFL a couple
of years ago when we first saw it and it
just kind of looked like this foreign spring league thing.
Now it's real, it's in the NFL. I think one
of the biggest things that people don't realize is there's
no more surprise onside kicks. Only the trailing team in
the fourth quarter is allowed to declare that they're going
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to try for an onside kick, which eliminates you know,
the Sean Payton New Orleans Saints Super Bowl against the
Colts where you surprise and boom, steel possession and the
rest is history. So I think that's a little unfortunate.
But bottom line is this is gonna incentivize essentially more
of an offensive play, incentivize returns, and engage viewers and
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fans for a play that they think they're eliminating or reducing,
you know, high impact collisions, which I understand, and that
makes sense. I think the teams that are going to
figure this out fast are teams with great special teams,
coaches that collaborate with an offensive coordinator, or you know,
somebody's gonna throw out their swing tackle, you know, like
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their sixth guy essentially on their offensive line of scrimmage,
or maybe a couple tight ends and have them you know,
run essentially almost like counterplays, or go try and pick
somebody off from left to right and almost like a
pulling guard and spring your return because you know, if
if you kick it out of bounds or you miss
the landing zone, you get the ball at the plus forty.
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So that's like a heck of a return in itself,
and it puts a lot of pressure on those kickers.
That's a heck of a kick on the opposite end
of the fields. So I'm curious to see how it
goes as we get. You know, once again, just a
small sample size, but it's an interesting play and it
definitely makes you watch.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, it's hokey, but I think it's needed because I
need to have some kind of movement on a kickoff
instead of it just throwing into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It's like it was a chance for people to go
to the bathroom, go get a beer, go get a
hot dog. You know, like it was like a relaxed play.
And the NFL wants your attention at all times, which
I totally understand. It's, you know, in some ways, like
the entertainment business, you just got to get eyeballs at
all times, and this is another way to do it
while keeping things safe. I think it could be really
good and could be some electric plays this here.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm looking at your schedule for Fox this year. Week one,
you have Tennessee at Chicago. Yes, sir, what are you
expecting out of Caleb Williams Week one?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, listen, you can't help, only because I've been through
some of things like this as a quarter back in
the NFL. But you can't help but feel bad a
little bit for Justin Fields. You know, like they don't
they're doing everything for Caleb, setting him up the right way.
Where was that a couple of years ago? You know?
And now Fields has moved on new scenery, change of
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pace and whatever. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Did you start for Caleb?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I did? I did, But I competed with Kellen Clemens
in training camp all the way through probably I don't know,
two three weeks into training camp, but I mean they
knew Caleb was going to start, which is fine, whether
he has to compete for it or not. I think
that's more of an old school mentality. But you know,
you got to realize, this is like the gen Z
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first nil you know, paint the fingernails kind of kid.
It's just a different thing that we're seeing, and he's
about to potentially take over the NFL, and I think
he's set up for success. I can't fault Ryan Poles,
you know, you got to. You gotta give him his
due because he's at least put him in a solid
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position with three outstanding receivers and drafting Roma Duneza early
in the first round. You know, they already have Dj
Moore who accounted for like forty plus percent of their offense,
only second to Tyreek Hill in the NFL of offensive percentage,
which is unbelievable. And then you got a guy like
Keenan Allen to help a guy like Roma Dunze. A rookie,
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you never get that kind of stuff, and when you do,
those guys can really take advantage of it, and that
can accelerate his learning curve and help him mature quickly,
which is what Caleb's gonna need now. With Shane Walder
and the offensive coordinator, he's, you know, a structured guy,
and Caleb, we know has the ability to go off scripts.
So my key there for their success is to find
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that sweet spot of when Caleb's gonna have to understand
that it's not you know, usc this isn't all spread offense.
This isn't you know, run around and play street ball.
It happens, no doubt it happens. But at the end
of the day, you're gonna have to drop back three
or four times on a fifteen play drive and convert
third and mediums and get from one to two to
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three to potentially four with just one quick movement in
the pocket, one shuffle, one slide, and then deliver a
strike to a guy that's essentially covered. He's open, he's
nfl open, which is basically covered, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be an adjustment. And so where's the time
for him to add lib you know, understanding that when
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it's third and a half a mile from your own
fifteen yard line, you know, we don't need to take
another sack here. This might be the time to just
throw one away and dirt it, or fall down and
take a sack, do the old Peyton manning, you know,
just get down and move on with your life and
don't give the defense any momentum kind of thing. But
there's gonna be some growing pains with that, I think,
like any rookie quarterback. But man, is he fun to watch.
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And I was, you know, I was bummed. I wanted
to see him in that early game, obviously just for
me because we're in the game. Selfishly, I'd love to
see him playing and see him get more reps. But
I understand why they take care of him and make
sure he's healthy. For Week one, they looked pretty bad
with a bunch of egg on their faces. If something
were to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Who's the best quarterback you've seen? Who would throw guys open?
Oh yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Kirk Cousins last year, before he got hurt, was on
an absolute heater, like he was on MVP level heater.
Matthew Stafford last year could have easily been the MVP
if they beat Detroit in that playoff game. I mean,
he took a rookie receiver and made him one of
the top receivers in the league. Like that. That doesn't happen.
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It's you know, a great coordinators, great receiver coaches, you know,
the great offensive head coach at McVeigh. But Stafford was
just unbelievable with his back pedal and and arm talent.
I think he's finally starting to get the credit that
he really deserves. And that's crazy saying that after he
already won a Super Bowl. But then, I'll tell you
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the best practice. So we get to we get the
privilege of going to practice on Fridays, and for the
home team of the team we're gonna call, right, so
we fly in and different teams treat you know, broadcast
crews differently. Some are more inviting than others. Some, you know,
they kind of close everything off and just kind of hey,
sit in the corner and we'll bring our players out
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to you kind of thing. Well, we're at the Kansas
City Chiefs, and I think you know where I'm going
with this, because we're talking about the best quarterbacks, throwing
guys open. And when you watch this Friday practice, and
once you see different practices from different places, you can
start to compare. Right, It's like a It's like a
litter of puppies. One's a little more dominant, one's a
little more docile, one's a little more aggressive, whatever, So
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you can see them all together. Well, once you have
a real sample size, I know what a Friday practice
looks like. A good one where you walk out like damn,
those guys are ready to play, and another one where
you're like, I don't know if they're really buying what
the coach is selling. And you see all the signage
in the building like you know, let's win our way,
and you know, discipline, excellence, blah blah blah blah, you
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know all their motivating factors and whatever right, so you
get a lot of information. But this Friday practice, long
story longer, was one of the most amazing practices I've
ever seen in my life. I swear to you. The
ball did not touch the ground until the last seconds
to last play, and you collectively heard the entire Chiefs
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team go oh. And it's like they knew Mahomes was
throwing a no hitter during practice. It was. It was
the craziest thing I've seen. And I'm watching Kelsey run
as hard as he can to catch passes. I'm seeing
guys fall on the ground. I'm seeing Mahomes move slide boom,
and it's real. This is like real, live action. And
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you see a lot of Friday practices where you're just
kind of like you know, in turf shoes and everybody's
brother in law and nobody's really blocking, like come on, man,
And this was incredible. But one of the Titans dropped
the ball and everybody it was like a back corner
like touchdown in the end zone, like his shining moment
of this Friday practice, and he drops it right through
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the wickets and everybody goes h.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm talking to Mark Sanchez, Fox NFL analyst, former NFL
quarterback and USC quarterback. How much pressure is Lincoln Riley
under at USC this season?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Well, I think it's an interesting year because of the
switch to the Big ten. I think there's always pressure
when you're the head coach or the quarterback of someplace
like USC, which is a good thing. But listen, bottom
line is, you know, we're gonna have to win, and
we're gonna have to win a lot of games and
some tough environments. Going to Michigan, Michigan in the Big House,
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that's gonna be a monster. You know. I was, you know,
selfishly hoping for maybe a Detroit Lions game around that
time so I can catch my guys in Michigan. But
opening up with LSU, you know, that's gonna kind of
set the tone for the year. And you know the
Tiger's going to be ready to play, but so are
the Trojans. You know, I'm always gonna be rooting for
my guys and always hopeful for coach Lincoln Riley. I
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think he's done a great job so far, and I'm
curious to see how things shake out at the quarterback position,
right because you have this absolute superstar and it's almost
like Elvis has left the building. Okay, well who's up?
You know who's the next guy? And is it Miller?
Moss is at Mayava the kid from UNLV. So all
signs points to Miller right now. But I'm curious to
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see how he does because he's gonna be able to
fly under the radar a little bit. We saw how
he played in the Holiday Bowl last year against Louisville
and lit him up. So this kid can throw it,
he can sling it. He was a top quarterback in
his class coming out in high school. So I think
we'll be primed and poised for a great season. It's
gonna take a lot of hard work and we'll need
a couple bounces.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Should Eli Manning be a first Ballance Hall of.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Famer, I think he's gotta be.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
I mean gotta be.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Ah two Super Bowl ones, beating the undefeated, you know,
like his his great moments are so great, they're you know, legendary.
The Tyreek catch, you know, Plascow Burris and the ends
up like beating the undefeated Patriots and then doing it
again in Indy. The ball up the sideline, whether it's
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was it Knicks or man Yeah, manningham Mario Manningham. I mean,
that's a tough one to say no to. There's too
many and it's hard right because well.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There are two seasons because he didn't win another playoff game,
and but he did beat the Patriots and there were
memorable moments there.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
But that you had a caller last week who talked
about when you predicted that they would upset the Patriots,
but their run in the playoffs that was nasty at
the packer like, that was a tough run.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But they didn't have a good regular season run. Therefore
they were on the road they had to I mean,
they know.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
But so I have I have a little bit of
bias there because we were we never won our division,
but we were, you know, we were some road playoff
dogs and it was a mentality and the Giants had
that that year with straight hand and Coughlan and I
mean that defense ave lot Justin. I just saw Justin
Tuck at a at a soccer game at Yankee Stadium
the other day. But we were reminiscent over a couple
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of times he had chances to take my head off
and laid me down easy, which.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Russell Wilson or Eli Manning, Oh wow, Russ's regular season.
Russ's regular he sent me topics. This is not one
of the topics. Just so we're absolutely honorable, unbelievable. I
(31:54):
need time to think about that one. I don't know,
Russ has to just once sul.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I'm saying just one. I don't have any.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Any but but he but then they lost the other
one to the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I'll.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Give you a week to study this, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Do your I don't know, coach, that's tough, that's tough.
I need I need to see resume, blind resume first, you.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Know, yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Just sometimes you know, I checked down. Sometimes I audible.
I mean, you never know. I'm gonna Peyton manning here.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
All over the place.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Could Peyton have taught you what he did the way
he plays, Like, is that teachable what he does or
he did?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I think some A good portion of that is the
way he was raised, the way he learned the game,
the way he was introduced to the game, and then
the next part was his magic of taking it to
that next level of making it come to life.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
But didn't go to the line of screens.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Different much different systems, and Eli had different coordinators through
his career. Peyton had Tom Moore forever and then started
to develop the system for himself. And one of my
favorite stories was when Tom Moore came back to consult
with the Jets and he basically told us we're winning
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in the in the in the championship game, we're winning
a halftime and Peyton comes out in the third quarter,
fourth quarter and just lights up our defense. And Tom
Moore told Rex was like, what happened? Your offense totally
changed in the second half, and Tom goes, I don't
even think I called the play in the second half.
Peyton just went off. He just did his own thing,
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and Recors was like, no, wonder why everything was different.
He was moving people around, he switched routes up, he
switched up concepts, and just started picking on defensive players
that he thought he could go after. And he kept
waving Tom off. Tom just said, I didn't call it
damn play. It was. It was unbelievable. And so that
kind of stuff, it comes with time on task, the
(34:10):
same system. So I mean, could he have taught me? Sure?
Do I perform it at the level that he performed at?
I mean selfishly and you know, uh, my competitive nature says, hell, yeah,
I would, But is that a reality. I don't know.
I mean that'd be that's a hell of a feat.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
All right, before I let you go thirty seconds. If
I had every quarterback all time throw the javelin, who
wins the gold?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Uh bar? Jeff George TiVo? Maybe TiVo? Lway? Oh shoot
Elway God rocket for that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Randall Cunningham maybe, but long your delivery.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I don't know if that's what you want.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Javelin there's no pass rush. There's no pass rush on
the javelin.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Well that's nice, yeah, lucky.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Maybe maybe JaMarcus Russell would win that.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Maybe yeah, it might be somebody with just one of
those rocket arms that that just didn't quite pan out,
as as maybe the way he.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Thought, great to talk to you give it thought.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I'd probably win the javelin throw though.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Russell, Wilson, Eli Manning, next time we talk.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Okay, I know I need to get on that.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Thank you, Bud.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
All right, that's Mark Sanchez Fox NFL an, his former
NFL USC quarterback. I didn't know you gave him topics, Todd.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
He requested some topics and obviously I thought he'd know
the show better than that. You're not gonna stick.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
We don't script.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Come on, I said, we're gonna talk about you know,
but we'll ask your opinion about the kickoff rules and
the on side kick, the dynamic kickoff, and maybe some
of the young quarterbacks like Caleb and Jayden and and
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Next time we're going to talk football. Okay, you don't
have to give him topics.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Just say no. He was like, Oh, this wasn't on
the list. Ton didn't tell me. I can't. I can't
do that. Look at him, he knows that was soft.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Hey you go, my god, you guys are changing up
your defense.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Hey, that'smn fair.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Imagine a pop quiz at USC.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh you had to go to class to get a
pop quiz?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Can you believe that defense they just switched up?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Ridiculous. I'm out of here.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I'm watching some Olympics kayaking. They should change the name
of kayaking in the Olympics to just call it avoiding
death because if they did, that, wouldn't that make you too?
If it's kayak, you go, we've all seen people kayak,
But if you do avoiding death kayak coming up next, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They get dropped in on this platform. They're on this
platform and it goes down like you see a trapdoor
on one of those game shows, and they drop down
headfirst or you know, boat first into the thing and
it's just churning water and they're spinning around. There's not
even a I don't even think there's a bronze medal
as he didn't.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Make it, mini didn't make it, and.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
They have to barrel roll under the water, yeah, and
get through the obstacles.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes, kayaking avoiding death next gold zone. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They may not like that in the true Olympic spirit
avoiding death.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Because it is a little bit like what'd you guys
drive your minivan to the gold medal? Do you guys
throw that on top.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Of your Yeah, but if they did a degree of
difficulty in any event where all of a sudden, you know,
you put something in the water, or.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Like events where you have likelihood of not exiting the
event alive.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, like somebody shooting a bow and arrow back at
you or something unlikely docking for cover when you're doing
skeet shooting or whatever they're doing. Do we know how
deep that quote unquote river is. It looks deep enough
to drowned in. I know that, and it rocks you around. Yes, Todd,
could you add.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
A running of the bulls element to the track and field?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I have no interest in doing the running of the
bulls zero, because it's not that I don't that I
can't handle myself. It's I'm worried about you know, Jimmy
lipperh who was you know, coming in from Schenectady, and
he wants to do it and then he falls down.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It does seem like I'd be entertaining to watch from
a lovely balcony with a drink in your hand.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Completely safe, yes, as others are gored.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes, And is it weird that I root for the
bulls a little bit, like a little bit, just like
a nudge like you get, like you know, jab just
a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think you almost have to root for the bulls
of that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, yes, Marmon, room for the bulls all the way,
all right, he did a little bit.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
No, I want them to really get him. I think
the bulls are aware of it, like if they've been
in it a few years, Like it's a third year
this bull has been in it, and he's like the
month before he's training getting loose.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I don't I don't know if they have repeat the bulls.
I don't think so one and done. I think they're
one in like freshman. Yeah, they might be one and
really done.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'm usually always team bull.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, yes, yes, because they're like, hey, that bull tried
to kill somebody, we better kill it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, maybe you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's just like when there's bullfighting. I had friends neighbors
who took their kids to bull fighting, and they you know,
they had young kids, and their girls were screaming because
and I said, what did you think was going to
happen when they're killing the bull? Like, yes, that's this bullfighting?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Yes, huh? Can the bull somehow communicate with one of you?
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Guy? You get the one with the red shorts.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm gonna get the guy with the blue jeans, so
we don't go for the same guy.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Do they like double team?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Like a guy you know, comes in maybe a little hefty,
you know, hey, look at that guy. He's gonna be
like if we were running with the bulls, the bulls
might conspire and go, let's get the Let's get the
guy back there, Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Very likely that would be the smart thing to do.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
I just want to be faster than the guy next
to me. That's it.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I was talking about herschel Walker that I thought he
was going to be greater. He rushed for eighty two
hundred yards, he had five thousand kick return yards five thousand,
he had five hundred catches eighty two hundred yards in
his career, but I still thought he was going to
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be even better than that. Final hour on the way,
we'll recap the weekend in the Olympics, Noahliles, Scottie, Scheffler, Novak,
djokovic Us swimming wrapping up, got a real rival for you,
though with Australia We've always had that, but it was
certainly front and center. More of your phone calls as well,
Operator Tyler sitting by, we'll get to those coming up
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as well. So two hours in the books on this
Monday with Fritzy Seat and Marv Pauli and yours truly
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangsall here.
It's our two talks in football form an NFL quarterback
Mark Sanchez. We'll stop by what's he think of the
new kickoff rules? And let's look ahead to next year's
Hall of Fame class. I'm going to ask him who
he thinks gets in Jeremy Shaft for the Mothership. A
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little bit later on will join us from Paris to
wrap up a very very busy weekend. And it started
early with golf and tennis, Scottie Scheffler winning the gold.
Novak Djokovic wins the gold as well. Noah Lyles then
wins the gold in the one hundred meters. Those are winners.
The White Sox are losers.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They've dropped twenty in a row, one shy of the
record set by the Orioles in nineteen eighty eight. That
would be the modern day record. We are in Raleigh,
North Carolina, Fox Sports Radio one oh six point one
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in Raleigh, North Carolina. A lot of great memories in
Kerrie in Raleigh, North Carolina. Spent a lot of time
down there playing in Jimmy ve golf tournaments as well.
Great people, great support for that cause as well. So
great to be in Raleigh, North Carolina. Stat of the
Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading
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question from our one and what are we going with
in hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's see hour one, we had up there who had
the best weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Right now, Scotti, Scheffler and Noah Lyles pretty much tied
for the best weekend. Novak Djokovic and the Hall of
Fame bus Maker not getting a lot of traction there.
We also have up there who had the worst weekend
Michigan Football, Chicago White Sox, John ram or other, and
we put up there I'm rooting for the White Sox
to win asap.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Or keep losing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Okay, Early results on that have eighty seven percent of
the audience want them to keep losing.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, if it's your team, do you want your team
to be good? Be great at being bad?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But the Orioles in nineteen eighty eight lost twenty one
in didn't they start this season losing twenty one in
a row? Does that sound right? And I think cal
Ripkin was with that Orioles team. Twenty one in a
row might have been to start the year, but the
White Sox faced the Oakland A's big series coming up
in Oakland. The Socks have won twenty seven games, and
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the only other team since nineteen hundred to lose at
least eighty seven of its first one hundred fourteen games
the nineteen sixty sixteen Philadelphia Athletics. They went twenty five
eighty eight and one. They had a tie twenty five
eighty eight and one.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Woo.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
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Speaker 5 (02:56):
This is the stant of the day's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Out of the day, brought to you Mypanani America. The
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Speaker 5 (03:14):
Twice the amount.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Twenty losses in a row. All right, A couple of
things here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The Hall of Fame induction ceremony over the weekend overshadowed
by the Olympics, which is unfortunate because you almost feel
like a lot of these players who went into the
Hall of Fame did get overshadowed in their career. You know,
Steve McMichael wasn't known as the best defensive player for
the Chicago Bears. Dan Hampton probably was, or Mike singletearing.
You know, you had Richard Dent as well, but Steve
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McMichael going into the Hall of Fame. Andre Johnson came
out of the U and kind of disappeared when he
played in Houston. Not his fault. But once again, Randy
gratischar they didn't win a Super Bowl, went to a
Super Bowl, the Orange Crush, and when you think of
great linebackers, randhar gets lost in You know, a lot
of the bigger names there. See, you had some of
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these players. You know, Julius Peppers got a lot of
attention when he was in college. He played basketball. They
went to the Final four and then Michael Jordan shows up.
He gives a shout out to Michael Jordan, and just
the reaction. See, you have all of these Hall of
Famers there, you know, Emmett's there, I mean, go down
the list. All of a sudden they realized Michael Jordan
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is in the building, and it's different. It's just they
all fanboy Mike. But Julius Peppers, who he's one of
those guys. If you said, okay, coming out, I thought
that this guy was going to be a Hall of Famer.
Like Miles Garrett, I think is going to be a
Hall of famer. Watching him, I went, okay, he's a
Hall of famer. Adrian Peterson I thought he was going
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to be a Hall of Famer. Julius Peppers, I didn't.
I just knew he was really athletic, but I didn't
know if he was going to be one of those
guys who would be able to play football Athletically he
could be on the field. That's one of those oh
could a basketball player play football? Well, they can. They
just have to learn how to use leverage, you know,
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use their size. And I didn't know that with Julius Peppers,
I didn't know. He looked like he could be a
Hall of Famer. I just didn't know if he was
going to be able to at that size be great.
Miles Garrett, you watch him and then you go, he's
going to be a Hall of Famer. But there's certain guys.
Adrian Peterson his freshman year at Oklahoma, I go, oh,
my God. But if you look at guys who have
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gone into the Hall of Fame, and I gotta carefully
word this because I don't want to say you were
disappointed or they didn't live up to what you thought
they were. Like you know, Calvin Johnson, I thought he
was going to be greater. Adrian Peterson, I thought he
was going to be greater. And I don't know if
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it's a knock on them as much as it is
just my expectator. Like Mike Troun's going to go into
the Hall of Fame and we're going to say he
probably should have been better. Can you think of other
athletes in any sport where you go, I thought they
were going to be better, and look it's not. Ken
Gerfey Junior comes to mind, Like I thought Junior was
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going to be even greater, And I guess it speaks
to just how great they were that they're Hall of famers,
but we still expected more. And Mike Trump came to mind,
Adrian Peterson came to mine, and Julius Peppers I didn't know.
I didn't think he was going to be a Hall
of Famer. I just thought he was going to be
one of those big guys that you go like Jadeveon Clowney.
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I didn't think he was going to be a Hall
of Famer because he didn't have any lower torso I'm
ever talking with a teammate of his who said he
gets pushed around. But if you remember that Pro day
the Mothership, everybody was raving. I think Teddy Bruski, Jaws,
some of those guys were like, oh my god, this
is the best Pro Day we've ever seen. Well, I
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don't put too much credit in, you know, pro days,
because JaMarcus Russell had the greatest Pro Day a quarterback
has ever had. Zach Wilson had a really good Pro Day.
But I just remember there's certain players where you go,
like Andrey Johnson, I never would have thought would have
been a Hall of Fame, even though when you watched
him it look like he was a grown ass man
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going against college players even when he was in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, PAULI Adrian Peterson's a good call. His career numbers
when he's on the field are probably almost one of
the best ever. He missed thirty five games due to
injury and suspension. If he plays thirty of those thirty
five games, he passes Emmitt Smith. Yeah, easily. He's right
at Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And it's not you know, it's not fair to look
at Calvin Johnson and say I expected more, but I do.
I did just because how great he was. And it's
almost like the big man in basketball, aren't you supposed
to be great?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Like Shack? Shack should have been greater?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, And maybe you know it's not fair to him,
but I think when you watched him play, you're like,
kind of how comany he's not even greater at what
he does. It's not like I looked at Kobe and
I go, you know, he should have been greater. I mean,
he got everything he could out of his abilities. There
there's certain players that you just go, Okay, they did
(08:18):
everything they could possibly do. Maybe it's because of the
expectation level, you go, god, he should have been better.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
Yeah, Mark, do you have Wil Chamberlain in that category
as far as not. I know he's got tons of
individual records, but he's only got two rings.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But I don't know, like Wilt did incredible things. I
just think usually his team was not as good as
the Boston Celtics. I mean it came down to that.
If Bill Russell doesn't play in the NBA. Will Chamberlain
probably has quite a few NBA titles. Bill Russell and
the Celtics had their number, not just Bill Russell, because
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Will put up incredible numbers against Bill Russell. But I
think I think Wilt he really needed other rivals. I mean,
he had Bill Russell, but I think he was going
against guys and probably got into bad habits. He never
had a signature move and he wasn't smooth with what
he did. He was just physically dominant and a great athlete.
(09:19):
But yeah, I guess winning I probably would have thought
he would have won more even in college.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
He didn't win either, Yeah, Mark.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Is that why he's not revered like Babe Ruth?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, Babe won. Babe was on great teams, not that
Wilt wasn't on great teams. I just never thought Wilt
came up big when he needed to come up big.
Babe is a folk hero. I mean there's a mythology
to Babe because you were listening on radio, and there's
something about that when you're listening on radio, like you're
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leaving it up to somebody else to describe somebody for you.
And then sometimes they can describe them better than if
you were just watching them, and they make them seem
larger than life, and he was larger than life. He
was bigger than the game of baseball. But yeah, there's
just certain athletes where you and Babe could have been
better too, which is weird to say. Won nearly one
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hundred games and of course all of his hitting records,
but if he continued to be a pitcher, could he
have won three hundred, three hundred and fifty games? But
it felt like, yeah, he didn't take care Mickey Mantle.
Mickey Mantle's another one where I thought, Yeah, that guy
is faster than anybody to first base in baseball, had
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power speed, and got injured, didn't take care of himself,
and you're left wondering what could have been.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, Pauling, this is a little bit different. But you
started this topic with people you thought were going to
the Hall of Fame when you saw them earlier. If
you would have told me at the time that Bo Jackson,
Michael Vick, and Andrew luck All would not go to
the Hall of Fame, I would have gone the other
side of that bet hard. Yeah, I know injuries played
a part to it. With Luck as injury in the
decision vic he he sabotaged his own career and injuries
(11:04):
with Bo Jackson. But those three guys are not in
the Hall of Fame. Yeah, and if you saw them
in college.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Now, Andrew Luck, I didn't know that he was going
to be great, like truly all time great. But then
I watched him, and then I realized they have a
terrible offensive line and he is going to be lucky
to survive.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
And it proved to be true.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But he had, you know, the family tree with his
dad in an NFL quarterback, and he was going to
the right team at the right time. It felt like
replacing Peyton. But yeah, Andrew Luck, I didn't look at
him as as a surefire Hall of Famer. Bo Jackson
I did, And certainly Michael Vick. Michael Vick in college,
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that's where you go. He's going to be unbelievable in
the NFL, and at times he was, but Mike just
didn't put in the time. He's one of those guys
and I and I liken him from the talent aspect
to like Kyler Murray, they were so oh good, And
what they did I wondered, did they need to did
they need to work on it? Did they need to study?
(12:07):
And they didn't. Brett Farv's the same way, like putting
in that extra time. I think Farv just thought I
just get out there and I just sling it, and
he did and he should have been greater. And I'm
sure there's going to be a lot of other players
that come to mind, and look, Calvin Johnson's a incredible athlete. Uh,
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but I just I kept thinking that he was going
to be greater than what he was. And then you
get a guy like Tom Brady and you would have
went that guy might make a roster like the other
the other players who come into their sports, and you go, man,
he's lucky to be holding on there.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Yeah, Mark, Well, we.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Look at Aaron Rodgers that way, like he should have
been better because of his playoff record, right results.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, results. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And you know Adrian Peterson when you saw him and
I thought, it's like Marshall Falk. When I saw him
as freshman year, I was like, he's the best running
back in college football right now?
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Give him the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Adrian Peterson best running back in football college football. Give
him the Heisman. There are just certain guys where you go.
He's different. When I saw Jay Simpson when he was
at USC and he said that guy is going to
be the best running back in football, and for a
little while he was, Yeah, Pauling, you were.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Doing sports that. I remember this so well. Marshall Falk
had a game his freshman year at San Diego State,
where was it three hundred and forty seven yards or
some number like that, And you guys did Sports Center
and you were hosting, and then they replayed the game
and we were in my fraternity house and we stayed
up and watched it again. Yeah, And I remember saying,
this guy's got to wait two and a half more
years to go pro. He may have a case.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was incredible, though. They're just certain guys that you know, Herschel,
there's another one. Herschel should have been greater, Like he
might be up there on the Mount Rushmore of God.
But you know, you didn't get to see the US,
which which I did because they were, you know, the
New Jersey Generals and I got to cover them for
one one season.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
But I would say Herschel would be up there. Yeah, Mark,
should he get.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
More consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Because
of what he did in the USFO or did he
not do enough as a whole?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think you should. I mean, it's a professional league.
There were a lot of great players in the USFL.
It's like the ABA. Combine the stats, you know, Now
we're bringing in the know stats from the negro leagues. Like,
let's be fair to everybody here. If you're in a
professional league, then we should recognize those stats. And I
don't think we've done enough of that. I don't think
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we did that with the USFL with any numbers here.
Now here's another one. Do you bring in the Canadian
Football League with what Warren Moon did? Now he's already
Hall of Famer, but I mean he won went five
great Cups there, you know? Is that something that you
bring in Now? It's a different style. Okay, it is
called the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's it's like
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the it's not the NBA Basketball Hall of Fame. It's
the basketball Hall of Fame. Yeah it is. But not
all leads are created, yeah, the same. You're right, So
I get if you're a standout performer in this one league, say,
but usually if you're a standout performer in a lower league,
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you jump up to the bigger one. Well, are we
including the AFL stats in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We do, right, Yeah, I'm looking at they don't have
specific rationale the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I
got a thing here that said Warren Moon gets like
bonus for a CFL because he wanted to be in
the NFL. Yeah, he did enough work in the NFL
to get in a loan. I think he was an
eight time All Pro, but like he wanted to be
in before each twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, and I don't know I understand. You know, people
might say, oh, it's a secondary league. Well, the AFL
wasn't really a secondary league to the NFL. In my eyes,
they were more exciting. That was that was the New
Age offense. And then we saw what Namath did, We
saw what the Kansas City Chiefs did, and the A
B A, the ABA had so much talent and I
could have put up the best in the ABA against
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the best in the NBA and I would have liked
my choice there.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
So I think that it's it's easy to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But when you start to look at combining stats and
you know they are you know, it's the basketball Hall
of Fame. It's the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and
I think, you know, until there's a designation that says
we're not going to include that, then we should, you know,
collaborate with a lot of these numbers that certainly these
guys put up in their great careers. All right, Mark
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a small sample size here with the new kickoff rules,
your reaction is what I think You're on?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Mute?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
You love them on? You there?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm better? I'm better that way. It's like a silent movie.
You know you never sounded off anyway?
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Uh six to two and a quarter two hundred and
thirty eight pounds. Hit me?
Speaker 7 (18:18):
What were you when you played?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Like my first year, I was probably two twenty five,
so I weigh a loft one now than I did,
And I think my second and third year I got
up to like after my rookie year, I ended up
at like two eighteen two nineteen, so real light. And
then my second, third and fourth year I got up
to like almost two thirty five to start camp. So
(18:43):
I'd end the season around to twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Five, Lamar Jackson is losing weight? Is that a good
thing from Mark Jackson?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I thought last year he was gaining weight. Remember, he
like put on a little more muscle. He had a
little more uh you know, curves to the arms and stuff.
He looked like he was doing a little more TV
arms and just to you know, it's it's a brutal game,
especially when you play that style like Lamar Jackson. Obviously
that wasn't necessarily my style, but you just I think
(19:10):
a lot of it's distress. It's you know, the physical
aspect of it, and you're just constantly burning calories, so
you can't take in enough and so you inevitably just
start losing weight.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They have a small sample size on the new kickoff rule.
Your reaction is what so far?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
It's interesting. It reminds me of the XFL a couple
of years ago when we first saw it and it
just kind of looked like this foreign spring league thing.
Now it's real, it's in the NFL. I think one
of the biggest things that people don't realize is there's
no more surprise onside kicks. Only the trailing team in
the fourth quarter is allowed to declare that they're going
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to try for an onside kick, which eliminates you know,
the Sean Payton New Orleans Saints Super Bowl against the
Colts where you surprise and boom, steel possession and the
rest is history. So I think that's a little unfortunate.
But bottom line is this is gonna incentivize essentially more
of an offensive play, incentivize returns, and engage viewers and
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fans for a play that they think they're eliminating or reducing,
you know, high impact collisions, which I understand, and that
makes sense. I think the teams that are going to
figure this out fast are teams with great special teams,
coaches that collaborate with an offensive coordinator, or you know,
somebody's gonna throw out their swing tackle, you know, like
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their sixth guy essentially on their offensive line of scrimmage,
or maybe a couple tight ends and have them you know,
run essentially almost like counterplays, or go try and pick
somebody off from left to right and almost like a
pulling guard and spring your return because you know, if
if you kick it out of bounds or you miss
the landing zone, you get the ball at the plus forty.
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So that's like a heck of a return in itself,
and it puts a lot of pressure on those kickers.
That's a heck of a kick on the opposite end
of the fields. So I'm curious to see how it
goes as we get. You know, once again, just a
small sample size, but it's an interesting play and it
definitely makes you watch.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, it's hokey, but I think it's needed because I
need to have some kind of movement on a kickoff
instead of it just throwing into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It's like it was a chance for people to go
to the bathroom, go get a beer, go get a
hot dog. You know, like it was like a relaxed play.
And the NFL wants your attention at all times, which
I totally understand. It's, you know, in some ways, like
the entertainment business, you just got to get eyeballs at
all times, and this is another way to do it
while keeping things safe. I think it could be really
good and could be some electric plays this here.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm looking at your schedule for Fox this year. Week one,
you have Tennessee at Chicago. Yes, sir, what are you
expecting out of Caleb Williams Week one?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, listen, you can't help, only because I've been through
some of things like this as a quarter back in
the NFL. But you can't help but feel bad a
little bit for Justin Fields. You know, like they don't
they're doing everything for Caleb, setting him up the right way.
Where was that a couple of years ago? You know?
And now Fields has moved on new scenery, change of
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pace and whatever. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Did you start for Caleb?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I did? I did, But I competed with Kellen Clemens
in training camp all the way through probably I don't know,
two three weeks into training camp, but I mean they
knew Caleb was going to start, which is fine, whether
he has to compete for it or not. I think
that's more of an old school mentality. But you know,
you got to realize, this is like the gen Z
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first nil you know, paint the fingernails kind of kid.
It's just a different thing that we're seeing, and he's
about to potentially take over the NFL, and I think
he's set up for success. I can't fault Ryan Poles,
you know, you got to. You gotta give him his
due because he's at least put him in a solid
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position with three outstanding receivers and drafting Roma Duneza early
in the first round. You know, they already have Dj
Moore who accounted for like forty plus percent of their offense,
only second to Tyreek Hill in the NFL of offensive percentage,
which is unbelievable. And then you got a guy like
Keenan Allen to help a guy like Roma Dunze. A rookie,
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you never get that kind of stuff, and when you do,
those guys can really take advantage of it, and that
can accelerate his learning curve and help him mature quickly,
which is what Caleb's gonna need now. With Shane Walder
and the offensive coordinator, he's, you know, a structured guy,
and Caleb, we know has the ability to go off scripts.
So my key there for their success is to find
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that sweet spot of when Caleb's gonna have to understand
that it's not you know, usc this isn't all spread offense.
This isn't you know, run around and play street ball.
It happens, no doubt it happens. But at the end
of the day, you're gonna have to drop back three
or four times on a fifteen play drive and convert
third and mediums and get from one to two to
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three to potentially four with just one quick movement in
the pocket, one shuffle, one slide, and then deliver a
strike to a guy that's essentially covered. He's open, he's
nfl open, which is basically covered, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be an adjustment. And so where's the time
for him to add lib you know, understanding that when
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it's third and a half a mile from your own
fifteen yard line, you know, we don't need to take
another sack here. This might be the time to just
throw one away and dirt it, or fall down and
take a sack, do the old Peyton manning, you know,
just get down and move on with your life and
don't give the defense any momentum kind of thing. But
there's gonna be some growing pains with that, I think,
like any rookie quarterback. But man, is he fun to watch.
(24:54):
And I was, you know, I was bummed. I wanted
to see him in that early game, obviously just for
me because we're in the game. Selfishly, I'd love to
see him playing and see him get more reps. But
I understand why they take care of him and make
sure he's healthy. For Week one, they looked pretty bad
with a bunch of egg on their faces. If something
were to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Who's the best quarterback you've seen? Who would throw guys open?
Oh yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Kirk Cousins last year, before he got hurt, was on
an absolute heater, like he was on MVP level heater.
Matthew Stafford last year could have easily been the MVP
if they beat Detroit in that playoff game. I mean,
he took a rookie receiver and made him one of
the top receivers in the league. Like that. That doesn't happen.
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It's you know, a great coordinators, great receiver coaches, you know,
the great offensive head coach at McVeigh. But Stafford was
just unbelievable with his back pedal and and arm talent.
I think he's finally starting to get the credit that
he really deserves. And that's crazy saying that after he
already won a Super Bowl. But then, I'll tell you
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the best practice. So we get to we get the
privilege of going to practice on Fridays, and for the
home team of the team we're gonna call, right, so
we fly in and different teams treat you know, broadcast
crews differently. Some are more inviting than others. Some, you know,
they kind of close everything off and just kind of hey,
sit in the corner and we'll bring our players out
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to you kind of thing. Well, we're at the Kansas
City Chiefs, and I think you know where I'm going
with this, because we're talking about the best quarterbacks, throwing
guys open. And when you watch this Friday practice, and
once you see different practices from different places, you can
start to compare. Right, It's like a It's like a
litter of puppies. One's a little more dominant, one's a
little more docile, one's a little more aggressive, whatever, So
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you can see them all together. Well, once you have
a real sample size, I know what a Friday practice
looks like. A good one where you walk out like damn,
those guys are ready to play, and another one where
you're like, I don't know if they're really buying what
the coach is selling. And you see all the signage
in the building like you know, let's win our way,
and you know, discipline, excellence, blah blah blah blah, you
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know all their motivating factors and whatever right, so you
get a lot of information. But this Friday practice, long
story longer, was one of the most amazing practices I've
ever seen in my life. I swear to you. The
ball did not touch the ground until the last seconds
to last play, and you collectively heard the entire Chiefs
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team go oh. And it's like they knew Mahomes was
throwing a no hitter during practice. It was. It was
the craziest thing I've seen. And I'm watching Kelsey run
as hard as he can to catch passes. I'm seeing
guys fall on the ground. I'm seeing Mahomes move slide boom,
and it's real. This is like real, live action. And
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you see a lot of Friday practices where you're just
kind of like you know, in turf shoes and everybody's
brother in law and nobody's really blocking, like come on, man,
And this was incredible. But one of the Titans dropped
the ball and everybody it was like a back corner
like touchdown in the end zone, like his shining moment
of this Friday practice, and he drops it right through
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the wickets and everybody goes h.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm talking to Mark Sanchez, Fox NFL analyst, former NFL
quarterback and USC quarterback. How much pressure is Lincoln Riley
under at USC this season?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Well, I think it's an interesting year because of the
switch to the Big ten. I think there's always pressure
when you're the head coach or the quarterback of someplace
like USC, which is a good thing. But listen, bottom
line is, you know, we're gonna have to win, and
we're gonna have to win a lot of games and
some tough environments. Going to Michigan, Michigan in the Big House,
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that's gonna be a monster. You know. I was, you know,
selfishly hoping for maybe a Detroit Lions game around that
time so I can catch my guys in Michigan. But
opening up with LSU, you know, that's gonna kind of
set the tone for the year. And you know the
Tiger's going to be ready to play, but so are
the Trojans. You know, I'm always gonna be rooting for
my guys and always hopeful for coach Lincoln Riley. I
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think he's done a great job so far, and I'm
curious to see how things shake out at the quarterback position,
right because you have this absolute superstar and it's almost
like Elvis has left the building. Okay, well who's up?
You know who's the next guy? And is it Miller?
Moss is at Mayava the kid from UNLV. So all
signs points to Miller right now. But I'm curious to
(29:29):
see how he does because he's gonna be able to
fly under the radar a little bit. We saw how
he played in the Holiday Bowl last year against Louisville
and lit him up. So this kid can throw it,
he can sling it. He was a top quarterback in
his class coming out in high school. So I think
we'll be primed and poised for a great season. It's
gonna take a lot of hard work and we'll need
a couple bounces.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Should Eli Manning be a first Ballance Hall of.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Famer, I think he's gotta be.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
I mean gotta be.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Ah two Super Bowl ones, beating the undefeated, you know,
like his his great moments are so great, they're you know, legendary.
The Tyreek catch, you know, Plascow Burris and the ends
up like beating the undefeated Patriots and then doing it
again in Indy. The ball up the sideline, whether it's
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was it Knicks or man Yeah, manningham Mario Manningham. I mean,
that's a tough one to say no to. There's too
many and it's hard right because well.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
There are two seasons because he didn't win another playoff game,
and but he did beat the Patriots and there were
memorable moments there.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
But that you had a caller last week who talked
about when you predicted that they would upset the Patriots,
but their run in the playoffs that was nasty at
the packer like, that was a tough run.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But they didn't have a good regular season run. Therefore
they were on the road they had to I mean,
they know.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
But so I have I have a little bit of
bias there because we were we never won our division,
but we were, you know, we were some road playoff
dogs and it was a mentality and the Giants had
that that year with straight hand and Coughlan and I
mean that defense ave lot Justin. I just saw Justin
Tuck at a at a soccer game at Yankee Stadium
the other day. But we were reminiscent over a couple
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of times he had chances to take my head off
and laid me down easy, which.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Russell Wilson or Eli Manning, Oh wow, Russ's regular season.
Russ's regular he sent me topics. This is not one
of the topics. Just so we're absolutely honorable, unbelievable. I
(31:54):
need time to think about that one. I don't know,
Russ has to just once sul.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I'm saying just one. I don't have any.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Any but but he but then they lost the other
one to the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, oh, I'll.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Give you a week to study this, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Do your I don't know, coach, that's tough, that's tough.
I need I need to see resume, blind resume first, you.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
Know, yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Just sometimes you know, I checked down. Sometimes I audible.
I mean, you never know. I'm gonna Peyton manning here.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
All over the place.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Could Peyton have taught you what he did the way
he plays, Like, is that teachable what he does or
he did?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I think some A good portion of that is the
way he was raised, the way he learned the game,
the way he was introduced to the game, and then
the next part was his magic of taking it to
that next level of making it come to life.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
But didn't go to the line of screens.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Different much different systems, and Eli had different coordinators through
his career. Peyton had Tom Moore forever and then started
to develop the system for himself. And one of my
favorite stories was when Tom Moore came back to consult
with the Jets and he basically told us we're winning
(33:29):
in the in the in the championship game, we're winning
a halftime and Peyton comes out in the third quarter,
fourth quarter and just lights up our defense. And Tom
Moore told Rex was like, what happened? Your offense totally
changed in the second half, and Tom goes, I don't
even think I called the play in the second half.
Peyton just went off. He just did his own thing,
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and Recors was like, no, wonder why everything was different.
He was moving people around, he switched routes up, he
switched up concepts, and just started picking on defensive players
that he thought he could go after. And he kept
waving Tom off. Tom just said, I didn't call it
damn play. It was. It was unbelievable. And so that
kind of stuff, it comes with time on task, the
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same system. So I mean, could he have taught me? Sure?
Do I perform it at the level that he performed at?
I mean selfishly and you know, uh, my competitive nature says, hell, yeah,
I would, But is that a reality. I don't know.
I mean that'd be that's a hell of a feat.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
All right, before I let you go thirty seconds. If
I had every quarterback all time throw the javelin, who
wins the gold?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Uh bar? Jeff George TiVo? Maybe TiVo? Lway? Oh shoot
Elway God rocket for that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Randall Cunningham maybe, but long your delivery.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I don't know if that's what you want.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Javelin there's no pass rush. There's no pass rush on
the javelin.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Well that's nice, yeah, lucky.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Maybe maybe JaMarcus Russell would win that.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Maybe yeah, it might be somebody with just one of
those rocket arms that that just didn't quite pan out,
as as maybe the way he.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Thought, great to talk to you give it thought.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I'd probably win the javelin throw though.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Russell, Wilson, Eli Manning, next time we talk.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Okay, I know I need to get on that.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Thank you, Bud.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
All right, that's Mark Sanchez Fox NFL an, his former
NFL USC quarterback. I didn't know you gave him topics, Todd.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
He requested some topics and obviously I thought he'd know
the show better than that. You're not gonna stick.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
We don't script.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Come on, I said, we're gonna talk about you know,
but we'll ask your opinion about the kickoff rules and
the on side kick, the dynamic kickoff, and maybe some
of the young quarterbacks like Caleb and Jayden and and
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Next time we're going to talk football. Okay, you don't
have to give him topics.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Just say no. He was like, Oh, this wasn't on
the list. Ton didn't tell me. I can't. I can't
do that. Look at him, he knows that was soft.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Hey you go, my god, you guys are changing up
your defense.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Hey, that'smn fair.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Imagine a pop quiz at USC.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh you had to go to class to get a
pop quiz?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Can you believe that defense they just switched up?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Ridiculous. I'm out of here.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
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Speaker 2 (36:48):
I'm watching some Olympics kayaking. They should change the name
of kayaking in the Olympics to just call it avoiding
death because if they did, that, wouldn't that make you too?
If it's kayak, you go, we've all seen people kayak,
But if you do avoiding death kayak coming up next, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They get dropped in on this platform. They're on this
platform and it goes down like you see a trapdoor
on one of those game shows, and they drop down
headfirst or you know, boat first into the thing and
it's just churning water and they're spinning around. There's not
even a I don't even think there's a bronze medal
as he didn't.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Make it, mini didn't make it, and.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
They have to barrel roll under the water, yeah, and
get through the obstacles.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes, kayaking avoiding death next gold zone. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They may not like that in the true Olympic spirit
avoiding death.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Because it is a little bit like what'd you guys
drive your minivan to the gold medal? Do you guys
throw that on top.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Of your Yeah, but if they did a degree of
difficulty in any event where all of a sudden, you know,
you put something in the water, or.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Like events where you have likelihood of not exiting the
event alive.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, like somebody shooting a bow and arrow back at
you or something unlikely docking for cover when you're doing
skeet shooting or whatever they're doing. Do we know how
deep that quote unquote river is. It looks deep enough
to drowned in. I know that, and it rocks you around. Yes, Todd,
could you add.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
A running of the bulls element to the track and field?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I have no interest in doing the running of the
bulls zero, because it's not that I don't that I
can't handle myself. It's I'm worried about you know, Jimmy
lipperh who was you know, coming in from Schenectady, and
he wants to do it and then he falls down.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It does seem like I'd be entertaining to watch from
a lovely balcony with a drink in your hand.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Completely safe, yes, as others are gored.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes, And is it weird that I root for the
bulls a little bit, like a little bit, just like
a nudge like you get, like you know, jab just
a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think you almost have to root for the bulls
of that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, yes, Marmon, room for the bulls all the way,
all right, he did a little bit.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
No, I want them to really get him. I think
the bulls are aware of it, like if they've been
in it a few years, Like it's a third year
this bull has been in it, and he's like the
month before he's training getting loose.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I don't I don't know if they have repeat the bulls.
I don't think so one and done. I think they're
one in like freshman. Yeah, they might be one and
really done.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'm usually always team bull.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, yes, yes, because they're like, hey, that bull tried
to kill somebody, we better kill it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, maybe you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It's just like when there's bullfighting. I had friends neighbors
who took their kids to bull fighting, and they you know,
they had young kids, and their girls were screaming because
and I said, what did you think was going to
happen when they're killing the bull? Like, yes, that's this bullfighting?
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Yes, huh? Can the bull somehow communicate with one of you?
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Guy? You get the one with the red shorts.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm gonna get the guy with the blue jeans, so
we don't go for the same guy.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Do they like double team?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Like a guy you know, comes in maybe a little hefty,
you know, hey, look at that guy. He's gonna be
like if we were running with the bulls, the bulls
might conspire and go, let's get the Let's get the
guy back there, Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Very likely that would be the smart thing to do.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
I just want to be faster than the guy next
to me. That's it.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I was talking about herschel Walker that I thought he
was going to be greater. He rushed for eighty two
hundred yards, he had five thousand kick return yards five thousand,
he had five hundred catches eighty two hundred yards in
his career, but I still thought he was going to
(40:55):
be even better than that. Final hour on the way,
we'll recap the weekend in the Olympics, Noahliles, Scottie, Scheffler, Novak,
djokovic Us swimming wrapping up, got a real rival for you,
though with Australia We've always had that, but it was
certainly front and center. More of your phone calls as well,
Operator Tyler sitting by, we'll get to those coming up
(41:17):
as well. So two hours in the books on this
Monday with Fritzy Seat and Marv Pauli and yours truly
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
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