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May 27, 2025 41 mins

Dan thinks changing the NBA All-Star Game format is long overdue and thinks having the international stars square off against the American stars would be compelling. And he talks to college football insider Ross Dellenger about the continually changing landscape of college athletics.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Alrighty, welcome to the program. Ready to go outward IWO
on this Tuesday, Gangs All Year, Fritzie in the back row,
the Minister of Humor, Seaton's here, Mar Pauli Ars truly
and the Brgs coming up a little bit more on
college football with what is happening, what is going to happen,
and right now a sport that is in limbo. We'll

(00:26):
have that for you. Coming up. Jim Jackson covering the
NBA Playoffs, one of our fabs. He will join us
a little bit later on as well. Thunder up three
to one on the Timberwolves. SGA gets forty and also
gets his MVP. The Timberwolves have been built for the
playoffs and they do have a balanced team. Jaden McDaniels,
Dante DiVincenzo, Nikole, Alexander Walker. So they had twenty or

(00:49):
more points in this game last night. So that's a
recipe for a victory, right Well, Anthony Edwards wasn't great
five at thirteen and sixteen points. You know when he
says he wasn't terrible, that doesn't cut it, not for
a great player and you have to come up big now.
Granted the only losspy Too, which you know would lead
you to believe if Anthony Edwards plays his normal game,

(01:13):
they're winning this. But Minnesota now down three to one.
Role players are doing their part. The question is can
Anthony Edwards be Is he ready for this moment? Here's
Anthony Edwards on his performance last night.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't look at it like I struggled or his struggled.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It just.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
They had a good game plan making us get off
the ball well, especially for me, man, it was superan gaps.
I made the right play all night, so I don't
really look at it like I struggled. I didn't get
enough shots to say I struggled, So that's my That
might be how you guys look at it, But yeah,
I'm a struggle Oh, it was just gonna make.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
The right play.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, he struggled to get his shots, so he did struggle.
But Minnesota, you know, realize this probably and said let's
spread the wealth. Then they're not gonna let Anthony Edwards
beat us and give credit to OKC. I mean they
took a risk here, They took the ball out of
the hands of their best player. Can they continue with
that philosophy. But keep in mind OKC has three players

(02:11):
who really focus on defense, Hartenstein, Chat Holmgren and lou Dort.
They focus on defense, They know their role and now
it's up to SGA and the rest of the players
to kind of fill in the blanks. And they only
won by two, but all you got to do is
win by one. Now they're up three games to one.
You have the Knicks getting two and a half at

(02:32):
the Pacers game four. And most importantly, Tyre's Haliburton's dad
will be allowed back in the building, but he's not
going to be allowed on the floor. He's got to
be up in a suite. Probably had to have that
tough talk there. And normally it's the parent where they say, ah, Jimmy,
come here, and then all of a sudden, you got

(02:53):
to go and sit down. Parents are talking to you.
I don't know if Tyre's Haliburton says to his dad,
come on, let's have the talk. Okay, have a seat.
You promised me on your best behavior. I do promise.
I do. Okay, we're not gonna antagonize anybody. We're not

(03:14):
going on the floor. We're not gonna hold up any teacher,
right right, Okay, promise, yes, I promised. Okay, all right,
let's try it this one time because when we get
to the NBA Finals, I want you to be back
so you can sit in your normal seat down. Okay,

(03:34):
thank you, son.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yes do Tyrese and his father go through scenarios like
Tyree goes if I hit a game winner over at
brunts and you're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Sit there normally nothing. That's the right answer. Yes, yes, see,
all right, pull.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Question for hour two. We've actually had it up there
for hour one as well. But which is worse, embarrassing
your parents or embarrassing your kids?

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I would say embarrassing your parents I take great joy
and embarrassing my kids. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
But there's times where like you humiliate yourself and it's
embarrassing to your kids, don't. I don't mean like it's
a birthday party and you're like ba, I remember the
time you da da da whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
It is just like joking.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
It's like, wow, you really act like an idiot and
you embarrass your kids.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. I did that with my youngest daughter. I don't
know how old she was when I told the story.
She's probably twenty five and I go. Remember when you
took all your clothes off at Friendli's and you ran
around the restaurant and mom couldn't catch you, And then
you could just see the look in her face, like
are you really saying this right now in front of
all my friends? So yeah, yeah, I got a lot

(04:40):
more of those where that one came from. But yeah,
if you're gonna embarrass your kids, I think that goes
along with being a parent. You're allowed to do that.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
But if your ats a we keep it in this
In this example, you're at a sporting event. Is it
worse to be the child on the court who does
something that embarrasses the parents in the stand, or the
parents in the stand embarrassing the kid on the court.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think it's worse for the parents. Now. I don't
want to say my dad embarrassed me, but when the
officiating was not good, he would take out his white
hanky and he would wave it and you could hear
my dad yelling pitiful. I think he somehow made it
like five syllables, but the way he pronounced pityfull. But

(05:26):
he had a white hanky and he would wave it.
He had surrendered.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I love that he surrendered because the officiating was so bad,
forget it, it's pitiful.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yes. Yes, and one of the greatest moments my father
ever had watching me play basketball. We're getting blown out,
I got in foul trouble and he's all over this
official and this official official was really a well respected official,
mild mannered, And next thing I know, he's standing. It's

(05:54):
a time out and he has got his back to
my father, who's like seven rows back. He flips my
father the bird behind his back, and my dad thought
it was one of the greatest moments. He goes, I
got to him, I said, I don't think so. I
don't think so. I think he might have gotten to you. Yes, Todd,
would you.

Speaker 7 (06:12):
Rather have your parent yelling the combination of encouragement and
frustration and everything that comes with being into it, Or
you look up and he's like reading the newspaper, he's
on his phone and he looks like he's doing your
favorite by being at the game, sitting there not really
paying attention at all.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
What would you rather have?

Speaker 8 (06:29):
I'd rather have the yelling and screaming and run the
risk of embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I think that's the obvious answer.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, Yes, Actually the answer is neither somewhere in between
where you're cheering and paying attention and maybe saying, oh,
come on, RAF a little better on those calls.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I can't have my dad on a phone or
reading or acting like he's not there. It's got to
be like calm encouragement. Oh I want my dad into it.
I'm fine with that. Like I don't want him, you know,
to embarrass himself. But my father, he had fun and
he was spirited and I appreciated that. But I could

(07:04):
hear him that's the problem, and it would be quiet,
you know, you know, all of a sudden you're at
the free throw line and you could hear my dad
yelling out pitiful and waving no, no, never. But he
waves white hanky, man, and be like, all right, all right,
the white hanky is just the best.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Surrender. Yeah, by surrender, yes, Mark.

Speaker 9 (07:30):
For some of you guys playing sports, did you guys
have secondhand embarrassment for some of your teammates that had
parents that would just go crazy, Because that happened to
me a couple times where I was like, man, I
feel really bad for Justin Trito because his dad was
going crazy on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Names here all right, age seven seven three DP show
email address DPA dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at
dp show best and Worst weekend will give you hours
coming up more of your phone calls. Yannis brought a something. Now,
this is something that we've brought up, and I'm all
for this. The United States against the rest of the
world with the All Star Game. So for all of

(08:09):
the people who say no thumbs down to this, you
just want to keep the All Star Game the way
it is. I would take a chance if I was
the NBA. But do you have to lose. You can't lose,
you know, more of your audience. This would be exciting.
I think playing for your country and playing and you

(08:29):
could build. Now, granted it's not going to be a
deep roster. I hear that the players not from the
United States, it won't be a deep roster. Okay, So
maybe we have First of all, we have maybe the
five best players in the NBA are going to be
playing for Team Europe or Team World, whatever it's going

(08:51):
to be called. I'll take my chances with those five,
and you could have ten great players or very good players.
I might have great, five great players, and then you know,
I might have five that are really good players or
good players? What do you have to lose? Considering the
way it is now? You know, when's the last time

(09:11):
you went? Man, can't wait to watch the All Star Game? This?
You would you give it a shot? First time? You'd
give this a shot? Yes, Marvin, But do.

Speaker 9 (09:20):
You really think somebody like Joker is going to take
it serious. He's not playing for Slovenia, He's playing for
the world.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, you know why, because everybody else will take
it serious. That's the key. They will take it serious.
Are you yes?

Speaker 8 (09:36):
Are you sure they're going to take it serious?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes? Yes, first time around? Yes. And then let's say
they win. Then all of a sudden, now it becomes
a rivalry. If they would happen to beat Team USA,
now you have something there, and you know you could
do your first team to one hundred and fifty points
or whatever if you want to add another gimmick to it.

(09:58):
I don't know, but I do love the fact that
if I put you know, Sga, I put Jannis Joker,
I put Luca. Who else am I missing in there?
Of the five best players in the game, and let's
see embeid is Cameroon.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Yeah, but he played for America in the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I know, so we we might not have him
in there, but if I have four of the top
six players, and then I think it would be interesting. Yes, Mart.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
What about Sibonis, It's it's international sounding even though he
was born in Portland.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah. I wonder if they would give him a waiver
there since his father is from Russia, he could do that.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yes, can we claim him now I'm in Portland. Definitely
in America, I just checked.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
One thing about this though, I think a decade ago,
the NBA would not have wanted to do international versus
USA players because if they lost what happened to the
US say basketball players. But it's clear that this league
is prioritizing international growth over everything the next generation.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I mean it's payback for the Dream Team thirty
years later, yes, thirty two. Yes, Yes. If anything, it's
validation of the Dream Team and what the Dream Team's
impact was on the rest of the world.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yes, Ton, I'd like to know what the world the
national anthem might sound like. You play a few seconds
of nineteen different countries and mix it together.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
You know, the US has a national anthem.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
This is a bunch of countries, and you're not going
to pick one each game, you pick a different country.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
I don't know how many games there are. You got
to kind of one game. You gotta put it all together.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I wasn't going to go there. I was thinking of
other things. But you know, I'm sure that you know
that maybe is something that would have to be on
the table with Welvin.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
You got nine seconds in my country, you only played
five seconds. What is that about.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Maybe we could do a mash up there.

Speaker 9 (11:53):
Yes, Marv Sabonas played for Lithuania in the Olympics, so
he's an international guy.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Professionally lost him alrighty, and so it goes I like it,
but Jannis is saying, yeah, this would be awesome. See
he would be into it. Everybody else would be into it.
I really believe that. Yes, Paul, I've got a list.
It's Luca Jokic, Jannis, Rudy Gobert, Wemby. Oh that's right, yeah, yeah,

(12:20):
we got Yeah, Kyrie could be in there.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
He could play for Australia, Wow, which I think he's
actually talked about doing already.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, I believe so I'd lock him down A Sabonis
Lowry Markinen christops. If healthy Franz Wagner, you love Franzer.
If you pronounced w with a V, you're international official.
Is there an umlat yusef nurkic tons of cos?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, all right, it might be a little dry at
the end of the roster, but that's okay. I'd like
to see that that starting five though. That'd be pretty good.
Randy in Pennsylvania leads us off our too. Good morning, Randy,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Good morning children, God, bless y'all, welcome back. Nobody covers
bearspawning in motor sports like this show.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Thank you Wick.

Speaker 10 (13:16):
Was mister Fritz serious? Did he actually look up bear spawning?

Speaker 8 (13:20):
I'm just I'm just curious. I did.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
I thought dad, misspoken. I was trying to actually help
him ou because I thought he said bears were spawning?

Speaker 8 (13:28):
So what was trying to do? Something good?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Ended up being, you know, something foolish and ridiculous that
I took some abuse for.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
My pants A little bit on that one.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (13:38):
Can we do a best best investice.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Of the weekend?

Speaker 8 (13:42):
Please? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
If you missed Todd in the first hour, I was
talking about a trip where I ran into a bear,
and I said that, you know, the salmon were spawning,
and Todd thought I was saying the bears were spawning.
They were it, mister salmon spawning. That was forwer okay, Randy,
your best and best investor, sir.

Speaker 10 (14:05):
Best was eleven hours of motorsports on Sunday. I hope
mister PEPs enjoyed himself. Best was one thousand, three hundred
and forty miles of motor sports on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
But was there kind for mission?

Speaker 10 (14:21):
We'll push the best to mister Fritz and bear respawning.
God bless you, sir.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
You ready, bears do spawned, It's just in that particular
story there was no bise.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think they do. I don't think it's called.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
Look that up too there there.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't think they spawn. I don't know if they
use that phrase they hibernate. Are you staying with this now?

Speaker 8 (14:48):
I thought you had made it.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
You die.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
I did google bear spawning.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
But you made a mistake. That's it. Then we move on.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
And I'm owning that mistake. But you're still My heart
wasn't a good place because I thought you said you're.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You're leasing that mistake you're not owning that mistake.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
You did see something about bearspawning, but that wasn't your
particular story.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
The thing that Todd is talking about about bears spawning
is in a video game. Bears do not really spawn
in real life, not the same way that fish do.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
They give birth to cubs. Alright, Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, spawns can spare can spawn in various video games.
For example, The Long Dark Bears respawn at a certain time.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a video game there. That had nothing to do
with me in British Columbia with a bear that was
ten feet away. I was not playing a video video games?
Was the bear was not playing a video game either?

Speaker 11 (15:49):
Okay, hey, Zach, they make the smooth transition here to
my question of how would you feel about the NBA
and possibly rolling it out in that new all star
format go into the emim ending it would incentivize people
to play more defense and not fallot the into games.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Are you familiar with that? Yes, yes, I'm open to
any of it because right now it's unwatchable. It really
is a layup line, that's all it is. And I'd
like to see something where maybe these guys are spirited,
and I get it. You know, I'm the old school guy.

(16:30):
When the All Star Game in baseball meant something, it
doesn't mean anything anymore. They tried to do home field
advantage for the World Series. That was silly, that didn't work.
I you know, if we're gonna do it, it's like
the Pro Bowl. Nobody cares. You want to do a
skills competition. Great, people are gonna watch great, But other

(16:51):
than that, yeah, I'm open to ideas. Take a break here.
In about twenty minutes, we'll talk about the ever changing
world of college football, the playoffs, expanding the playoffs. Uh,
this is gonna be a mess. Take a break back
after this.

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Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's Covino and Rich best and worst of the weekend.
We'll get to uh. We'll give you hours and more
of your phone calls as well. Red in Georgia, Good morning, Red.
What's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (18:27):
I mean, what's up?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Dan?

Speaker 13 (18:28):
Thanks for taking the call. Dan. I remember the moment
from when you did the report on Pete Rose as
a journalist day and I know you don't do things
like that, don't will investigate anymore like that. So what
would we be if it won reporters like you that
did y'all job at that time?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
You know?

Speaker 13 (18:46):
Then just think about what Pete Rose the legacy would
be if it wasn't but you doing your job. And
I'm asking you for as the Brett Farb thing, where's
journalism now? When the fans when you give us everything
in those moments, when you're hold in sports legends accountable

(19:07):
and the stories get out again? We know that's the
bigger story behind the Brett fag thing. Why happened it
came out? I don't know why, but I'm asking you.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, newspapers are dying. If you look at ESPN, journalism
isn't big anymore to them. Used to be you had
great journalists, You had Bob Lee, Jeremy Shie, they cared.
Feels like the only place that's really doing investigative reporting
is been Yahoo's sports. Seemed like they would do a

(19:39):
report and then handed to the NCAA and then somebody
would end up on probation. But newspapers are dying. I
just don't think it's important. People want hot takes, they
want entertainment, and that's what our bosses are, my former
bosses are interested in. They're not interested in winning Peabody
Awards or Edward R. Murrow Awards for journalism. Just not

(20:03):
used to be but not. And thanks for the phone call. Red.
Let's see Roger in Ohio. Hi, Roger, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 10 (20:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Dan, glad to get on.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
What I was calling about was my work. So weekend
was Indians dash. Guardians beat my Tigers the first three games.
But on Sunday, Rick Scoogle pitched two header and his
last pitch was played a game and this last pitch

(20:37):
was one hundred and three miles an hour and we
was at the game and he was took in a
motion at that last pitch.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Well, he's a great pitcher, you know, Triple Crown winner.
And you know the fact that Detroit they haven't been good,
but you know, now all of a sudden they have something.
The last couple of years, you could kind of see
this coming. And you know, you start to look at
baseball here and we tend to focus on the Dodgers

(21:06):
and the Yankees, and rightfully so, but there are six
teams playing six hundred ball or better winning sixty percent
of their games. You have the Dodgers and the Yankees, Cubs, Phillies,
Mets and Tigers, Cardinals and Giants already have at least
thirty wins. So you know you have some stories here.

(21:28):
It's a long season. But baseball we tend to look
at spring training, and then we tend to look at
the All Star Game, and then we look at postseason.
But there are a lot of great stories going on
in baseball and some teams playing some really good baseball
at that Russell and Vegas, Hi, Russ, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 8 (21:50):
I like it?

Speaker 13 (21:50):
Ay.

Speaker 14 (21:51):
First of all, the best of the weekend is have
you guys come back? Secondly, the best of the other
best of the weekend saving Fritzy on the mic.

Speaker 8 (22:01):
I love it.

Speaker 14 (22:03):
I'd like to chime in about the NBA Basketball All
Star Game. I'm not a big fan of the NBA
All Star Weekend, but if you can create a situation
where it's the US versus the world, I think that's
an awesome, awesome scenario. Because these athletes have egos. It's

(22:26):
all about ego, it's all about country pride. So I
think that would be the best way to go. I'll
hang up here, and thought.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, I'm all for it. I've been all for it
for the last couple of years. And I remember talking
to David Sturing, the former commissioner, and he wanted he said,
at some point, I hope to get a level playing
field with the players from outside the United States and
the players inside the United States. Well we're here, and

(22:56):
it feels like we're moving a little bit further with
those players from outside the United States. The importance of
basketball these countries, you know, the United States took it
for granted. AAU basketball as ruined the game in some ways.
It's far more structured in Europe. You're a professional at

(23:16):
a younger age. You go to you know, groups there
that are teaching, you go to school for it. You know,
that's kind of a job that you're given over there.
I mean, Luca was fifteen, he was a pro playing
against grown men. So when he came into the NBA,
yes he was playing against better players, but he was

(23:37):
playing against guys who were similar sized with what he
was already playing with. And that's really important. You know
the fact that Yannis came over and Joker came over
and made themselves better. That's what's lost on people. They
were you know, Joker was second round, he was Taco
bell boy. And then you know, even Giannis, we're like, oh, okay,

(23:59):
he's known as the Greek freak. Okay, but he made
himself better. Joker made himself better. Luca's gotta make himself better.
Shay Gilgis made himself better. You know this isn't an
accident that this was designed, Yes, Pauline.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, And if you go back to the Luca draft,
I think that's twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
He's the third pick.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Like you said, he's been playing four years of professional basketball.
DeAndre Ayton and Marvin Bagley the third were one and
done guys. They played four months of college basketball. I
think the American college players are a bigger risk than
international players these days. I think that's a fair stereotype.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, I'll use this analogy. It might not be fair,
but you don't take its rare rare, rare, rare. When
you take a quarterback who's only played started one year,
you don't do that. There's a number attached to this,
and it's around thirty starts. That's what scouts would like
to tell you that that's a sweet spot to be
able to assess how good a player is. And if

(25:00):
you've seen you know, we've had guys who played one year,
started one year. Zach Wilson, you know, he didn't get
to thirty starts. He was Trey Lance had one magical gear.
You just have to be careful with those players. You
want somebody who has a large sample size and you
could truly assess how good they are. All right, best

(25:23):
works of the weekend, Todd, I'll start with you.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Best of the weekend.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
The Knicks are avoid falling deep into an O three
hole in the Eastern Conference Finals at the Pacers Sunday night,
A racing about twenty point deficit, big contribution from Kat
scoring twenty to twenty four points in the fourth quarter.
Worst Rocky's lost a Memorial Day against the Cubs means
they've lost. They've won just three of their last twenty
three games nine and forty five twenty four games back.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
In the NL West. In seven of those losses this season,
they've given up double digit runs. What is going on
in Colorado?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
See O'Connor My worst of the weekend.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Kyle Larson going for the double, which is finishing the
NTY five hundred and the Coca Cola six hundred the
same day. Unfortunately he crashed out of both races. It's
gonna be tough to do that. He's tried that before,
I think, and there's no word and if he's gonna
try it again next year. But he was talking about
and I don't really understand this, but the window to
be able to do it is so small because of
weather and all these other things that you can't really control.

(26:16):
That being able to do that, or even just having
the chance the opportunity to do it, is pretty rare.
What a cool thing, though.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
And then Tony Stewart, I think did it twice, being
able to compete in both.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I think he might be the only person who's done it.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I could also be completely wrong about that.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
My best of the weekend Absolutely massive, massive news dropped
this weekend. Bombshell gigantic good, Well, bombshell has a negative
connotation to it. This is great news, fantastic news. Do
you guys want to guess massive massive news?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yes, if she is saying it's massive, it has to
do with US soccer and American promotion relegation.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
No, this is something that I think Dan will be
happy about too. It's more than the entertainment genre. The
Devil Wears Product to release day six. Let's go back,
all right, huge.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Isn't there a band called Devilwaar's Product?

Speaker 8 (27:21):
There is? There is?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah? Is Meryl Streep in it?

Speaker 10 (27:26):
She?

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Rumors have that she's in it. Emily Blunt also in it.
I haven't seen word on Anne Hathaway just yet.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
But Adrian Grenere I don't, hopefully.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I think Stanley Tucci, I'm sorry, what do you say?
Hopefully not? Wow, he's got a weak spot in that movie,
no offense. I think Stanley Tucci might be reprising his
role as well.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Great, he's gotta be. Yeah, this is great news for you,
It really is. It's great. It's the best news I
got all weekend. Yeah, yeah, Marvin. Worst of the week.

Speaker 9 (27:59):
Best of the weekend is the Devil Worst productwo coming out.
Stanley Tucci's so good, he said, you are whining?

Speaker 8 (28:05):
All right?

Speaker 9 (28:05):
Sorry anyway, best of the weekend. The guy we don't
talk about in the Thunder really, Jalen Williams had thirty
four points thirteen to twenty changed his name.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
What do you mean he does what because there doesn't
he have a teammate named Jalen Williams.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
The exact same name.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yes, yes, that's some problem. He's just gotta change it.
I don't know, just adopt a new name. What they
call him j dubbed on the Thunder. I don't know
if that's going nationwide or anything, but that's what they
call him in the locker room at least wall Is
there a Jay Dubb and a Jay will Yes.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
There is as a matter of fact, Okay, all right?
Worth of the weekend?

Speaker 9 (28:40):
Are Indiana Pacers giving up a twenty point lead at
home being up to oh.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Man, Well, Karl Anthony Towns, best shooting big man ever,
a game changer. He hey, that's one of those legacy games.
I don't know what it means bigger picture, but Karl
Anthony Towns like brunch and picked up four fouls. It
felt like in the first quarter, like what what just
happened here? All right? Paulie Best and Worst.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I did go back and look at the Indy five
hundred Coca Cola six hundred double back in one. Tony
Stewart finished sixth at the Indy five hundred, took a
plane down and finished third at the Coca Cola six hundred.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
Wow, that's nuts.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Best of the weekend.

Speaker 8 (29:19):
Lions.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Aiden Hutchinson the great defensive end, cleared to return to
football activities. Very fun player. And the other thing, we're
almost at June and Aaron Judge is hitting three ninety eight.
He's on pace for fifty five homers and his batting average,
I mean it's not four to twenty anymore, but it's
in striking distance and it's one thing we haven't seen
in our lifetime since Tony Gwinn someone going for four hundred.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, George Brett, I think ended at three ninety. But uh,
but it was important back then. It's batting average isn't
important anymore. It used to be. But the fact that
he's hitting, you know, this kind of average at this
point in the season in today baseball climate of you know,
swing for the fences, I mean, that's remarkable and for

(30:04):
a guy that big, that's remarkable. But Rod Carew and
Boggs and Tony Gwynn that it mattered. You wanted two
hundred hits and you wanted a bat three fifty. I
don't know if they even care about two hundred hits. Anymore.
I don't understand analytics. I just know if my gun
gets on base, that sounds like it's a good thing,

(30:24):
I think, But I don't know. I'd have to check
with analytics. All right, we'll take a break. Where are
we going with college football? Seems like a loaded question
and maybe a question that can't be answered, but we
will try when we return after this.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
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Speaker 2 (30:47):
We've talked a lot about college football, the ever changing
landscape of college football, where it is now, where it's
going next year, where it's going after them. Ross Dellinger,
this is his John Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter,
joints us on the program. Bring us all up to speed,
bring the audience up to speed of where we are

(31:08):
right now with let's just start with the playoffs, the
number of teams, and any other ancillary items that fall
in line with that. Yeah, and well, we know.

Speaker 15 (31:20):
This year we're going to have the same format pretty
much right, We're gonna have twelve teams, the same format.
They're going to go to straight seeding, which they decided
last week, but it's starting in twenty twenty six and
beyond where the conversation is around sixteen teams, and that
does feel like something that's going to happen.

Speaker 16 (31:37):
We're at least we.

Speaker 15 (31:38):
Kind of know that maybe for sure, is that we're
going to the college football is going to have a
sixteen team playoff. The question is how do you decide
how do you determine those sixteen teams? So the Big
Ten has kind of swung its support behind a model
that grants four automatic qualifiers to the Big Ten in

(31:59):
the SEC each two automatic qualifiers to the ACC and
Big twelve one for the Group of six champion and
then three at large. So that would be a multiple
kind of AQ type of sixteen team format the SEC.
And I'm here at SEC Spring meetings now in Destin.
They'll talk about that this week, but they as well
have been in support from predominantly in the Athletic Director

(32:21):
and President room, they have been support of that model too.

Speaker 16 (32:25):
But Greg Sink did say yesterday the SEC Commissioner.

Speaker 15 (32:28):
That they're not necessarily officially or formally have adopted any
kind of support for a model, but that's the one
they've been certainly discussing most Now, the flip side of this, obviously,
the Big twelve and ACC they want more than two teams, right,
so they're not for this four four two two one
type of model.

Speaker 16 (32:46):
And that's where things could get pretty interesting.

Speaker 15 (32:49):
Dan, there's a little bit of a you might say,
a fight brewing between among the power conferences.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, it's interesting though the four to four with Big
ten and SEC. Now, are they capping that the Big
ten and SEC can only have that's a maximum of
four teams in the playoffs.

Speaker 16 (33:09):
No, they are. They are not capping.

Speaker 15 (33:11):
So the three at large that are still available would
in theory still be available for the fifth place, sixth
place SEC or Big ten team.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Wouldn't the SEC have had six teams to qualify last year?
Does that sound about right?

Speaker 16 (33:29):
I think that's right. There were sixteen, Yeah they were.

Speaker 15 (33:32):
There were six in the top in the top sixteen
or whatever where that would possibly have happened. And actually,
you know, it's one thing, Greg Sink you did say yesterday,
because the two formats they're talking about most here, I
think are this four four two two one and then
a five plus eleven format, which is five automatic qualifiers
in eleven at large, and in that model, the SEC

(33:54):
would have gotten as many as sixteen teams into the
or six teams.

Speaker 16 (33:58):
Into the playoffs. If you did that model and went
back for the last several years.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
It might be crazy to say this, but I will
who benefits the most out of all of those.

Speaker 15 (34:12):
Well, the SEC and Big ten right in this in
this four to four model, certainly the SEC and Big
ten would be would benefit. Now if you look at
outside of college athletics, uh, with the kind of the
brewing fight going on in just the fight for control
in more money Dan, which everybody right now needs more
money right because they have to pay athletes directly starting

(34:35):
in about about five weeks or so, So everybody's after money.
So when you look at what's going on in college
athletics just the landscape in general right now, those that
benefit outside of the agents in the athletes right that
are are getting paid and then the agents getting a.

Speaker 16 (34:50):
Percentage are the outside entities that.

Speaker 15 (34:53):
We see maybe trying to get into college athletics with money,
which your private equity firms, private capital firms, And that's
really been interesting to follow DAN two weeks ago, the
Big twelve and ACC some of their presidents met with
the Smash Capital folks that have this super League proposal,
and they want to infuse nine billion dollars in the

(35:13):
collegegate athletics. And it's people like that that could benefit
and come in and kind of fill a hole a
financial goal where so many schools have one.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
We're talking to Ross Dellinger, he's at the SEC meetings.
He's Yeaho's sports senior college football reporter. I've been saying
for years it would be nice to have a schedule maker,
so yeah, for for college football, and maybe we get
to this fifty schools and then you have somebody who's
going to have you know, the AFC West and the

(35:45):
AFC North and AFC you know all of those. You know,
we create and we treat it like it's the NFL.
But I don't I don't know if we get I'd
love relegation. I think you could really dress this up
and make this so credibly huge, But I don't know
if it just feels like there's too many moving parts

(36:06):
and too many people that maybe it doesn't have. Is
that a pipe dream of in the next ten years
that we have maybe a fifty school format or forty schools?

Speaker 15 (36:18):
Well, and that's what you know, a lot of these
super league proposals that you've seen, not much of it
backed by private equity. In private capital firms would design
something like you're talking about, right.

Speaker 16 (36:30):
They think college athletics.

Speaker 15 (36:31):
Specifically college football is vastly undervalued. They need to consolidate
all the media rights the TV deal, They need to
have more uniform scheduling among the conferences, and they need
to have more balance in the playoff in the regular
season schedules. So I think a lot of folks agree
on what you're talking about trying to get done. The

(36:52):
problem is you have all these existing right TV contracts
with individual leagues, and as you know, college sports has
always been kind of fractured into conferences, and it really
prevents a lot of this from happening, and it prevents
the entity in general of reaping its full the value.
A lot of people would say, but eventually, Dan, we'll

(37:13):
get there, and I think it's coming. I think it's
around the corner. I would say five to seven years,
we're gonna get to a point where this happens. Because
between the years twenty thirty and twenty thirty two, there's
a lot of things that will happen. Contracts that come up,
Dan that could really trigger a lot of what we're
talking about here. The CFP contract comes up with ESPN,

(37:34):
the NCAA basketball tournament contract comes up, the Big twelve,
in Big Ten TV contracts as well come up. We
could see a more of a consolidation of brands there
and more of a centralized kind of leadership in college athletics.
And I think it's coming now.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
We have that NIL, but we also have collectibles and
we have salary cap right, right.

Speaker 15 (37:58):
There's a lot going on with Yeah, collective is very
the compensation.

Speaker 16 (38:01):
Right, We've been in the NIL.

Speaker 15 (38:03):
Era of the past four years where boot basically boosters
are paying athletes for quote in il when really it
is just a salary. And now we're about to get
into real salaries, right, Schools on July one are going
to be able to pay directly players basically salaries. They
don't call it that, of course, because they don't want
them to be employees, but it basically is a salary

(38:25):
that schools will begin paying. But in order to do
all that, the House Settlement case needs to be approved
by the judge. And here we are, right probably five
weeks before it's supposed to be implemented.

Speaker 16 (38:38):
All this is supposed to be implemented, and.

Speaker 15 (38:40):
The judge has not yet ruled on whether to deny
or approved the settlement.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
How's it going over with USC? Looks like they're going
to end the rivalry with Notre Dame. I don't know
if it's spoken about in SEC circles, but we're losing
rivalry games here.

Speaker 16 (38:57):
We are losing ribery games.

Speaker 15 (39:00):
One of the more sad things that has happened in
college athletics the last few years with conference realignment, right,
is the destruction of these these rivalry games. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma right is another one that you could see go away.
It's it is too bad. I haven't heard it really
we talked much about here, but I'll say this. If
the playoff format gets the playoff format gets finalized as.

Speaker 16 (39:22):
A four four two two where you have four.

Speaker 15 (39:25):
Out of wind qualifiers for a big ten in the SEC,
I think you'll see USC still play that game. I
think the CFP format is going to be a big
piece in a lot of regular season non conference scheduling decisions.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Great to talk to you, and it feels like if
Lincoln Riley doesn't win this Notre Dame game coming up
this October. Man, it feels like that's this is a
make or break year for him at USC.

Speaker 15 (39:54):
It feels like that, Dan, But you got to remember
that buy out of his I think it's over eighty
million dollars At a time when everybody's so stressed financially
stressed with paying athletes. It is tough to see USC
paying eighty million plus dollars to fire them.

Speaker 16 (40:11):
But you never know, right.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
What are your thoughts Hope's perspective for North Carolina with
Bill Belichick this upcoming season? Wow?

Speaker 15 (40:20):
Yeah, certainly without all the off the field stuff going
on in college athletics, that would be the big storyline.
And it has still been a big storyline this year.
You know, you look at their schedule, Dan, and it's
pretty good. It's pretty smooth. You could see them going
eight and four or something like that. I think that
would be I think that would be a success a

(40:41):
year one there. But it's going to be certainly interesting
to watch. It's been quite an interesting offseason there in
Keppel Hill.

Speaker 10 (40:47):
Hid.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, you got Carolina Blue polo shirt on there you
talk to Yeah, thank you, Ross, We appreciate your time.
Ross Dellinger. Yeah, who sports senior college football reporter. Yeah,
nobody's talking about out North Carolina if they're going to
be any good this year. It's like it's all the
drama off the field with Bill and his girlfriend. We'll
talk to Jim Jackson, we'll talk some hoops. Coming up,

(41:09):
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