November 2, 2023 • 44 mins
Dan takes a moment to play the Beatles' last song which was released yesterday. And he remembers the life and career of legendary Indiana basketball icon Bobby Knight with his former player and coaching protegee, Steve Alford.
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Well, you don't use the weights or the basketball stuff, but.
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It just me?
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Or can you have a sausage earlier in the morning,
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Ah.
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So like when you go to a tailgate, sausage is
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of a lunch food. Four or five of the guys
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I came in and Dylan said that he already had
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He had a.
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Chicago dog and I thought, wow, that's early to have that.
But it feels like a sausage you could have early.
You can't have the hot dog all right, So a
few things talk about. Congrats Rangers beat the Diamondbacks and
win their first ever World Series. Legendary head coach Bob
Knight passes away his former star player Steve Alford, who's
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heard from our bosses and they reached out and said,
you like to play the new Beatles song. It's the
last Beatles song that was recorded. And iHeartRadio reached out
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to us and they said it's called Now and Then,
and it was. It started with John Lennon recording something
in his apartment the Dakota in New York City and
put it on a cassette tape and it was sort
of there with all his belongings. After he was murdered,
and then Yoko Ono passed it on to Paul McCartney
and George Harrison and Ringo Starr and they were listening
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to the music and the piano was too loud, the
quality wasn't very good, so it just kind of sat there.
But I don't think it ever left Paul McCartney's mind.
You know, it was something that he thought, is there
something we could do with that? And it would be
John's last song, and you know, they got in the
studio and like a decade later, still trying to do something,
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and then Peter Jackson, brilliant filmmaker he had the documentary
on the Beatles, said you know what, there's technology that
we can take John Lennon's piano out of this. You
can have his vocals and the modern technology is what
brought this to light. So Paul then he said, I
can play my bass better than I did back in
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the early eighties, and so he said, I want to
lay down a different bass track or a new track,
and then Ringo was there. George Harrison had put down
his guitar portion of this, but I don't know if
it was completed. And then Paul says, in like a
twelve minute video that talks about the process. Here they
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found somebody who played slide guitar the way George was
playing it, and they brought all of this together and
it's called Now and Then. If you want to play
a little bit of that, the last song of John
Lennon and George Harrison, and it's true.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's all because of you, and then may get through.
It's all because.
Speaker 9 (05:25):
You, and then if we must start again, well.
Speaker 10 (05:43):
We well know Vosha the.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Well know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So the vocals were laid down by John Lennon back
in a late seventies demo. George Harrison his guitar was
recorded in nineteen ninety five. John Lennon wrote it and
sung that at his home in New York City, and
that was the same building the Dakota where he was
murdered in nineteen eighty and George Harrison originally didn't like it.
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But the final Beatles song, Now and Then is a nationwide,
a worldwide release, and the final song. So they broke
up more than fifty years ago. Paul and Ringo are
both in their eighties and you can't help but watch
the video and not be moved by it, because you're
watching them and when they were doing this, how they
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were doing this, and they would have embraced modern technology.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But Peter Jackson is the one who.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Brought this about and saved it, and I think that,
you know, that's the.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Beauty of it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Nineteen ninety four, Yoko, who was John Lennon's widow, gave
the demo to Paul in a cassette and it was
labeled for Paul and it contained vocals from John and
there were a couple other songs in there. But the
technical issues they thought that they were insurmountable. But that's
where Peter Jackson came in and said, no, I can
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save this, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So if you go back to that Beatles documentary that
Peter Jackson directed, he was able to use it's way
above my head digitize things and identified people's voices and
different noises in a room and separate them so he
would be peeking in it Lennon, McCartney and those guys
working a song in a room full of people or noises,
and he dropped out everybody except for the main people
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and the Beatles and got their conversations that would never
have made audio before. Once they founded that he could
do this. They took this song and said, we could
drop out the piano, just drop it out. It's like
the technology had to catch up with the music.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And you know, keep in mind, if Peter Jackson that
name sounds familiar, he was the one who gave us
Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit and also the
eight hour Beatles documentary that was called Get Back in
twenty twenty one. So using this technology to pick apart
the recordings of the songs of their final two albums,
Abby Road and Let It Be. And I think that's
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the fun part of this, that you're seeing them collaborate
even though George and John have passed away.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, it really is crazy to think about. In the nineties,
you know, they're trying to do this. It's just the
three of them, and they're trying to write a song
around just a snippet that they had from John sitting
in his apartment. And then they all these years later,
they're trying to do that in the nineties and then
they sort of lose momentum, but in the process another
one of them dies and now they have to replace
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that second one. And then finally, I don't know, forty
years later, they're able to complete the song just the
two surve members and it's very much a farewell. You know,
it's like, this is it, this is the last one.
They don't. This one took them that long to do.
There's no more and it feels like it's a John farewell.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But Paul McCartney said, it's really a farewell to George
Harrison as well on this and but you know, Ringo
and Paul refused.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
To let it go.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He was like, I'm going to get this done. I
got to figure out how to get this done, but
without technology. And I think Paul McCartney even says, look,
John would have been in favor of modern technology, and
they were always you know, ahead of the curve and
willing to experiment. But it's the last Beatles song. It's
entitled Now and Then. I can't go into Central Park
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and be on the west side of Central Park without
coming out of the park going up the hill. Now
there's you know, the monument Strawberry Fields. That's some planting's
there right down below the Dakota. I always go up
that hill past the Strawberry Fields Memorial and walk up
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to the Dakota always, and it's not that I'm revisiting
the crime scene as much as I just it. It's
a great reminder of you know, John his legacy. He
lived there, John Madden lived there in the Dakota Famous
building right off Central Park. And because it brings me back,
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you know, when I was growing up who the Beatles
were from?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Hold my hand to you know.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
These incredible, incredible performances of something that was much deeper,
had so much you know, it's so much more complex
than all there like a boy band. Well they were
a boy band and then they became the greatest band
in history. And so to hear that, to be a
part of that, to be able to share that with
you is uh. I'm honored to be able to do that.
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All right, So thank you to Julie Talbot and iHeartRadio,
the executives who chose our show to be able to
share that with you. All right, seton our two, we'll
talk to Steve Alford, former All American at Indiana won
a national title with Bob Knight, now the head coach
at Nevada, and Ralph Samson, the former Virginia and Rockets star.
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I wanted to get his thoughts on Victor one Bayama
they're the same size. And I think if Ralph Samson
was playing today, he would be Victor one Bayama. He
had that much talent and he'll join He went in
the same year to the Basketball Hall of Fame as
Bob Knight did, and the College Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He went in there. I think the same.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't even know if Bob Knight showed up for that,
Like it wouldn't be past Bob Knight to not show.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Up for the Basketball Hall of Fame. All right, poll
question Seaton Day. We've got up there right now. Whose
career would you rather have up to this point? Mike Trout,
Cory sieg or Bryce Harper. Okay, let's guess that's the result. PAULI,
I'll let you go first. This is your baby.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I actually think that Bryce Harper will be slightly winning
the poll.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Okay, Marvin, I'm gonna say Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Also, all right, Todd Seager, I'm gonna say Mike Trout, Corey.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Seageran is not even close, not even close.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (12:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And you know, like the most of the comments are
like you got two rings, two World Series MVPs, you know,
Rookie of the Year, silver Slugger's Four Hours All Stars,
like all these things, like the dudes had a great
career and he's won. He might get to the Hall
of Fame. He might, Yeah, I just don't know how
many times. Like I think it all goes back to
this for me, Like do you sit in your backyard
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as a little kid hitting imaginary pitches to one day
be the nl MVP or to win the World Series?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
To win the World Series?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think that that ultimately is what it comes down to,
you know, like your dreams come true when you win
the championship, like you get to that highest point. It's
not necessarily when your your dreams don't necessarily come true
when you're.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Recognized as the best player. But you guys lost.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, And on top of that, he got to play
in California and Texas, to play in La and Dallas.
There's a couple of really fun cities to major cities
to be involved.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
In the top of his accomplishman. H yes, bully.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And also I think with this question, Cory Sieger's not
far from the Hall of Fame. He may have, you know,
crept up on it with what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Okay, what's the fewest hits of somebody going into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He could be in that mix.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He's got a thousand, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But the way his career is going right now, it's
going it's trending well for him, and if it's close
the postseason could help. But it's almost like we did
this a couple of weeks og with Robert or Robert
Ory barely started. It's not like Corey Steger, some bench
player you know that played once a while, but that
had a bunch of rings that he was partially responsible.
He's kind of a mid level example.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Of this hit two eighty six during the World Series,
three home runs, first shortstop in baseball history with three
home runs in a World Series. And of course he
did this with the Dodgers as well. He signed that
long contract with the Rangers and they ended up winning,
winning last night and take him out four games to one.
Who's second on that poll between Bryce Harper and Mike Trout.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Let's see second on the pole is Bryce Harper and
then Mike Trout. Mike Trott only has about seventeen percent.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, all right, so one of the top ten hitters
of all time. Do you think Mike Trout would trade
his career for Corey Seegers man.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Mike Trott's sitting looking at that bank account.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He's like, I'm good, Corey Seeger's got bank two, and
so does Bryce Harper. Corey Seeger signed that ten year
deal three hundred three, one hundred and twenty million or something.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's doing.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Okay, yes, bum, Corey Seger's got three hundred and forty
six career played appearances in the postseason. Mike Trout has eleven,
Corey Seeger has two World Series MVPs. Mike Trott has
played in three postseason games. It's extreme.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Seemed to be rubbing it in there. Pull Now you
kind of slowed down to emphasize it like Todd does.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yes, three Worlds. He's got to sell it or.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Seeger still goes to Mike Trout for a loan though,
if he wants to buy himself a football team.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's like, Mike, I need your help. Where do we
stand on technology with music? Because you can't listen to
anything now without hearing technology?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean, all right, you can go all the
way back to uh is it an amplifier technology?
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Then?
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
There's a certain purity to it, but ultimately you plugged in.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, but something that enhances your voice to make it
sound better than what it really is, or your guitar
to make it sound better than what it is. Are
we all in on that where you auto tune those things?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, people have made auto tune into an instrument, so
it's not like, well, it's not like you know, uh
uh ariana Grande actually can't sing, but because of auto tune,
she sounds really good. She's great, you know, she's phenomenal.
There are just other dudes who have or other artists
who have made it into its own instrument, so it's
like it's all an instrument.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
At this point, technology itself is just an instrument.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes time to me, it's kind of.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like cycling and blood doping we spoke about recently.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Everyone's doing it.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
It's cheating, but everyone's doing it. Whoever can do it
the best, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay, but you don't get suspended if you're doing auto two.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You don't lose like your Grammy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They're all doing well. You lose your Grammy if your
lip syncing, you know, like Millie Vanilli. Yes, yes, the
biggest problem by far is ai. That's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Somebody yesterday released Johnny Cash singing Taylor Swift songs, and
it's not it's obviously not real.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And it's obviously not real. But it sounds exactly like
if Johnny Cash sat down at a microphone and started
covering Taylor Swift. In twenty years, you're not gonna have
any and maybe in five years you're not gonna have
any idea what's real and what's not.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
It's terrible, it's awful.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I got a blank space radio right.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
Things you can tell me when it's over, if the
high was worth lookin, got a long list of ex lovers.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They'll tell you and.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Saying, you're telling me that's not Johnny Cash really singing
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I actually love this hate it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, I'm okay with this.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I'm okay with this. You I can be I have
to be honest. If it came on, I'm not turning
it off.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
There's someday there's going to be a Dan Patrick hosting
radio shows that's like, yeah, and he'll do better than
I do. Yeah, it's terrible, and I'll be all for that.
It might be today, I might not.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
Even be real.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm not even real.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
How about we take a break. Steve Alford will reminisce.
I'll bring back portion of an interview that I think
sums up my relationship with Bob Knight and really his
relationship with himself. I'll have that for you coming up.
But Steve Alford will join us next reminisce about his
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Steve Alford, Nevada head basketball coach since twenty nineteen, won
a championship with Bob Knight back in nineteen eighty seven,
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and of course played in the NBA for a little while.
Former Dallas Mavericks second round pick nineteen eighty seven. Steve
joins us Now, Steve, thanks for joining us. How should
we remember Bob Knight?
Speaker 13 (20:21):
Yeah, that's a hard one, Dan, you obviously knowing very
well as well. But I'll just always appreciate coach for
his preparation, his discipline, his ability to teach players to
compete every possession, no matter what the drill was improving daily,
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and then ultimately, I just think he was the ultimate winner.
And those are traits that I think a lot of
our players, a lot of teammates, We've been on a
lot of text group text, and we've been talking about
that that not just all those traits apply to the
basketball court. I think even more so, his legacy will
be the people that were able to play for him
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and coach with him. Those traits made them winners off
the court. And that's probably what I'm gonna remember most
about coach.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
How difficult was it in the moment when you're being
coached by Bob Knight to understand now what you've extracted?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh, that's no question.
Speaker 13 (21:22):
I think that was the that was the art of
what kind of player you're going to be if obviously
a little different language, so you had to not ever
take things personal. You had to know he loved you
and loved you deeply. There were a lot of times,
and he said it a lot in coaching to so
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many players. AI always say, I want you to be
better than you want to be. And I always took
that the heart. I always I never wanted to be that.
I wanted him to know that. No, I wanted to
be that good as well. But there were days in
that definitely wanted me to be better than I was
on certain days, and you had to You had to
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decipher everything out and understand what he was saying. And
when you did that, uh, that's when I felt like
I really grew as a player and as a person.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But I wonder when you won that national championship, how
much was joy and how much was more of just
a relief.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Oh it was joy, you know.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
The relief part I think kind of gets over and
kind of dramatized.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
I think when you're in when you're in battle. He
was the general.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
I mean, that's who he was, and that's the that's
the foxhole you wanted to be in and we knew
that as players, we were the best prepared team. We
felt like we were the most disciplined team.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Uh. He will tell you. Uh.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
You know, I got an autograph picture on my wall
and he talks about when he wrote the autograph, how
great a player I was. Then he put in parentheses offense.
So so you understand. You just you understood your role
and you went out and played that role the best.
But I think it's like anything, Dan, when you put
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everything in it and then you win it and you
have success, you have great joy and appreciation for the process.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
And the journey.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Ever think about leaving Indiana never and noo.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
There were times that I would call mom and dad
and say, hey, you're two hours away, come get me.
You know, those things happened because it's it's it wasn't easy.
It was tough. But I think that's why you know,
I got better, right, you know, Dan, I was. I
was chasing the all time scoring record at Indiana, which
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you know, when you're an Indiana kid and you grow
up and all the incredible players that played there, and
now you're in that the media is talking about you
being this and that, and we're right in a Big
Ten chase, and we're going to Northwestern, a team that
you know, we had hammered, and then on to Wisconsin,
a team we'd be fifty five points at home, and
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we beat Wisconsin and triple overtime. But the Northwestern game
was the first trip and if I just if I
get my average, I break the school record. And you
can't help but think about those things growing up in
the state, knowing what you're trying to do. And I
can remember after that game. We barely won the game.
My teammates played a lot better than me, and Coach
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just ripped me in the locker room, he ripped me
in the media, and it was not about scoring. It
was all about my leadership. And I really at that
point maybe didn't understand that. But when we got back
from that road trip, I'm like, you know, it wasn't
about some individual thing. It was about my lack of
leadership and learning how to lead my team through difficult times.
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And that's what made coach special. He just knew how
to do the things that he knew the buttons depressed
to make you better.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Steve Alford, Nevada head basketball coach, won a championship with
Bob Knight. That was back in nineteen eighty seven. You
got a picture b behind you on the wall. Describe
that picture for the audience that's listening on radio.
Speaker 13 (25:07):
That's just a picture of coach and I think I
think Daryl's in it and Keith. I think Keith Smart's
in it as well, and just other teammates of just
after winning the championship in the Superdome in New Orleans,
and you know, just being there with Coach and experiencing
that with Coach was a very very special moment for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
When did you have your last conversation with him?
Speaker 13 (25:31):
I got to see him about a month ago, not
really conversation. Coach was not in very good health, but
I was able to sit with Pat, his son, for
about three hours in the home, and you know, just
tell stories with Pat. Pat was in junior high when
I was playing it at Indiana, so known Pat in
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the family for a very long time, obviously going to
coaches camp since third grade. I grew up knowing Coach
Knight's family very very well well. So I was able
to do that. But uh, he's a much better place
than in peace now because it's been a it's been
a tough road here over the last several months.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Tell the story when you had to walk home from
the airport.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
Well, and that's the thing Dan, you appreciate about coach
is that, Uh he did it the right way.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (26:22):
Not only was he a highly successful, winning coach, but
he did it with integrity of the rules. It was
always about respecting the game with him.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (26:31):
He loved his players, he loved his team. And I
did a I posed for a calendar. I was the
I was the month of February. I was the Love Month.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
This is a fundraiser for a sorority on campus.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
This was a fundraiser for a sorority on campus for
handicapped girls to go to summer camp. And I thought
I was doing the right thing, and but the wrong
thing was you're you're taught at Indiana, you go to compliance,
you go to the assistant coaches, you make sure you
cover yourself.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
And I didn't do that. That was my mistake.
Speaker 13 (27:05):
And on top of it, it was a Kentucky game,
and anybody that knows coach and the feelings of Kentucky
at the time would know what I'm talking about. So
the irony of me being suspended for the Kentucky game
for a compliance issue. Really dug deep to coach, but
it again speaks volume as a coach. He didn't fight it.
(27:25):
He didn't try to get administrators or people from the
outside to fix it. He's like, no, you made a mistake,
and now you're gonna feel that mistake because it's not
just gonna affect you, it's gonna affect your team.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Dan Dockage was RGA at the time. I'd played with
Dan for a couple of years, and so I went
to Dan. I said, Dan, I've been suspended, but am
I supposed to go on the road trip or not?
He said, I don't know what to tell you, but
I think i'd be on the bus. So I was
on the bus. And when you when you exit a
bus for a road trip or any other time, coach
would always hit you on the back as you left
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the bus, and we got our trench coats on. It's cold,
and I'm one of the last players off the bus
and I see him just hitting everybody. I'll never forget Dan.
He hits me and then he grabs the back of
my coat and pulls me back in the bus and says,
what are you doing. You're at home, you're suspended. Think
(28:19):
about what you did. Support your teammates from home. Find
your own way home. So it's twenty minutes from campus
out in the middle of the winter, and I just
start walking. I see the plane go through the cloud
and I'm walking. I get about a half mile up
the road, and the poor bus driver saw all this.
The bus pulls up next to me. He opens up
(28:41):
and he just looks at me, and he goes need
a ride.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
I said, yeah, it'd be great right now. I appreciate
a ride.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I hope the coach that the bus driver didn't know that,
you know, coach.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Oh no, I think that was just something kept between
the bus.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm sure it was. Hey, my best of the family.
Great to talk to you. Thanks for reminiscent.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Thanks so much, JN. I appreciate having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's Steve Alford, the Bad Ahead basketball coach since twenty
nineteen and won a title there at Indiana nineteen eighty seven.
I mentioned that I had a interesting The word I
always use is complicated with Coach Knight. Coach Knight hated
the sports center anchors. He hated probably Keith Overman more
(29:22):
than me. But it was by proxy because we were
doing the eleven o'clock Sports Center at the time, and
I just remember there was a clip in a highlight
and Bob Knight was grabbing his son and I think
Keith may have used the words at Home with the Knights,
and I remember Bob Knight didn't want to do anything
with the ESPN and it was Jay Billis. Jay Billis
(29:48):
was out at Indiana. He was going to do a
game and Bob Knight asked Jay Billis basically about is
there any good sports center anchor who knows basketball? And
Jay Billis and I'm paraphrasing here, but he said Dan
Patrick and he said, have him call me. So Jay
Billis comes back to campus and he said, hey, Bob,
and I wants you to call him. I go, oh no,
(30:11):
and he goes, no no. I told him, you know basketball.
I call the Indiana Basketball Office secretary puts me through
and he's like, Billis said, you know basketball? I said yeah,
And I started telling him of people. Don Donaher was
the Dayton basketball coach. He loved coach Donnaher. So we
(30:31):
just started talking and talking basketball, and I still wasn't
sure where this was going. And he says to me, Hey,
you ever need me on your show, you call, I'm
thinking what And we had him on numerous times. I
remember we had him on and we wanted to talk football.
Is Ohio State Michigan And we surprised him because he
(30:54):
went to Ohio State played basketball and we had Bo
Schembeckler on, who was one of his idols, Michigan head coach,
and oh my gosh, he just loved it, called back
and thanked us. Then we were talking baseball. A couple
of years later. He's friends with Tony Larusa Cardinals in
the World Series. We surprised coach Knight when he was
(31:15):
on and we had Tony Larusa call in.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
He loved that. And then when I.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Started doing the six o'clock Sports Center, the first night
I'm doing the six o'clock Sports Center, we had Bob
Knight on. He was at Texas Tech. Paulie and Fritzie
sent him a Dan Patrick Show sweatshirt. Now he's got
a clipboard in front of Dan Patrick's show on his sweatshirt.
I don't even I don't know that he's doing this.
(31:40):
I know we're having him on, and I introduced him.
He drops the clipboard. He basically says, what the hell
is this? Why do I have this on? And it
just kind of, you know, further emphasized that I was
part of the inner circle there with Bob Knight. I
had friends who played for him. I had people who
(32:01):
swear swore by him and swore at him. And you know,
once again, a complicated relationship, complicated person. You can't talk
about Bob Knight the basketball coach and not talk about
Bob Knight and everything else. You can't talk about everything
else and not talk about Bob Knight, basketball coach. The
(32:24):
basketball part I always thought was the easiest part for him.
This is a coach who demanded poise, composure, but he
didn't have it. But he knew basketball. You know the
Neil Reid where he grabs him by the throat. A
former co worker of mine, Robert Abbott, is the one
who discovered that video brought that delight, throwing the chair.
(32:47):
How he treated his players, you had to be a
certain there had to be a certain makeup for you
to be able to survive playing for Bob Knight. It's
almost like you know, they talk about Lombardi the Packers,
Hey treat us all the same, like dogs, but they
all talk about how what Lombardy instilled in them made
them great men, great businessmen. And you know, Bill Parcells
(33:12):
to me, was you know, he followed in Bob Knight's
footsteps of how he treated the media and maybe how
he treated his players as well. But I remember when
I first saw Parcels at a press conference, I went, oh, man,
he's Bob Knight. We did have the moment, and it's
a moment that I wasn't sure what was going to happen,
(33:33):
but I was going to ask the question because I
was asking the question as a basketball fan. I grew
up two and a half hours away from Bloomington. I
knew the importance of Bob Knight. I knew what he
meant to that fan base. And when we're talking fishing,
we're talking basketball, we're talking about a variety of things.
And then on March tenth of twenty seventeen, I asked
(33:55):
this question, why do we want you to go back
to Assembly Hall so bad? I know that might not
be on your wish list or front burner here, but
why do we the fans want closure with this coach?
Speaker 12 (34:10):
Well? I think that I've always really enjoyed the fans,
and I always will you know that, on my dying day,
I will think about how great the fans that Indiana
were and as far as the hierarchy at Indiana University
at that time, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for
(34:34):
those people, and that in mind, I have no interest
in ever going back to that university.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Most of those people aren't. Aren't all those people out
of there.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Though, Coach I hope they're all dead.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, I know some of them are, but I don't know.
Speaker 12 (34:53):
I hope the rest of them go.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And I'd like to still see you on that court
with that seventy six team or Isaiah's team.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe we want closure, maybe you don't need the closure.
I don't know, but you know I still hope for
it one day.
Speaker 12 (35:10):
Well hope Rigi Knel.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
He went back in twenty twenty, and I actually tried
to work behind the scenes to make that happen. Whether
it had any influence on Coach Night going back, I
just was reminding people of this is about those people,
not the people an administration there. They were all gone.
(35:39):
Those people were still there, and they needed to say
thank you, They needed to say goodbye. And he needed
to say thank you and he needed to say goodbye.
I thought it was imperative. I thought that it would
be something that he would take the rest of his
life and regret. And he went back, and I think
he truly appreciated that he went back because he was
(36:02):
going through treatment. He was living in Bloomington, but he
wouldn't go to campus. But hopefully there's closure once again complicated.
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in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly,
because this guy is over promising things we never have
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Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well you know what it's called over promise.
Speaker 11 (37:50):
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Speaker 2 (38:28):
Big game tonight for Will Levis? How many people are
on the bandwagon? Officially four touchdown passes last game, no interceptions.
Now you go against the Steelers in Pittsburgh, Titans getting three.
It makes it an interesting It makes it far more
interesting than just hey, what's on tonight Thursday Night football?
To be the Titans Steelers? Then all of a sudden,
(38:50):
it's like Will Levis against the Steeler defense. Okay, all right,
I'm interested, Ampong.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
How do we look at the Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett,
Is he your two?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It feels like he's the younger brother of Danny Dimes,
that he's got talent, he has moments, he doesn't turn
the ball over the way Danny Dimes does. But you
know Daniel Jones has talent. I mean, he he could
rush for eight hundred yards. He could rush for a
thousand yards if they wanted him to. But it feels
(39:22):
like with Kenny Pickett, whenever something goes wrong, they blame
the offensive coordinator. You've got a couple of really good
receivers there, You've got a respectable running back. You've got
a coach that gets his team into the playoffs there.
So I don't know about Kenny Pickett. Like there's not
too many quarterbacks where you go. I'm not quite sure
(39:44):
he's one of those quarterbacks. I'm just not quite sure
has moments. But I don't know. I mean, the position
is about being consistent. What can you expect out of
that person weekend and week out?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Quite sure what you get from Kenny Pickett. Feels like
when you talk about the Steelers, you go man that defense.
You don't talk about the offense.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, pull, Yeah, he's Kenny Pickett in two years is
eleven and eight as a starter, but it doesn't feel
like he's responsible for that.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Eleven of Dylan, our graphics guy, part of the Dan
Patrick takes a gamble podcast that we'll record later today,
And thank you for all the support. I got a
big audience that follows this and hopefully you're betting on
some of the picks the selection, especially Dylan. Dylan, of
course had the money line with Stanford beating Colorado that
(40:34):
was a couple of weeks ago. But he doesn't rest
on his laurels. He said at the beginning of the
postseason he had the Texas Rangers to win the World Series.
Congratulations Dylan, Thank you.
Speaker 10 (40:42):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
All right, do you have a parlay for the audience
to share this weekend?
Speaker 9 (40:47):
I do quickly though.
Speaker 10 (40:49):
Last week, Yeah, three money line underdogs parlayed. Panthers beat
the Texans, the Titans beat the Falcons, and I think
we all remember the Giants Jets game.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What would that have paid out.
Speaker 9 (41:05):
Like eleven to one point?
Speaker 10 (41:07):
Yeah, so I basically I did the old mental like
celebrating a little too early.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh did you celebrate? You think they're gonna win it
before it goes into overtime.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
Well it was what was it, ten to seven, with
like no time on the clock, and I was like,
all right, wrapped up, and then it went into overtime
and I just turned it off at that point.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
You knew.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
I knew I. Once it went into overtime, I was like,
this is over. They're gonna win. The Jets are gonna
kick it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
So you're still doing well in the podcast with bad
Larry and Shaye and Irving. Yeah, okay, what's your parlay
this weekend?
Speaker 10 (41:40):
So even though it was burned last week, Dan, I'm
doing all money line dogs again, okay, because they're barking.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay, you have to tell us, oh yeah, yeah, I'm
getting there.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We're not going to guess.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
Yeah, take a guess. All right.
Speaker 10 (41:56):
So we got Seahawks money line against the Ravens. It's
a big one six point dogs. Seahawks are good and
the Ravens. As a Ravens fan, I don't like taking
them on their favorites. Okay, Vikings money line against them.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
By the way, there's not a logic, lot of logic
to Dylan. Sometimes just sometimes you'll make picks and I'll
go wid and he goes, I don't know, Okay.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
Dan, I'm like when you're like, all right, this team's
eleven to zero in the third week of November, and
when the barometric pressure is low, they always cover the spread.
It never works, so you have to zag.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yes, Dylan, you're picking the Vikings over the Falcons without Kircuzins.
Is that a rally the troops victory?
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
I think so, And I just I don't know. The
Falcons can't really figure it out either. So, and Josh
Dobbs actually did alright with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Is he starting?
Speaker 9 (42:43):
I believe he is.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Okay, So you once again recapping the parley.
Speaker 10 (42:49):
Yeah, so I got Seahawks money line, Vikings money line,
and then Bucks money line against the Texans and all
of those are seafaring creatures. That was a coincidence of
Seahawks Spikings Buccaneers and this pays out eighteen to one.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (43:05):
And then also Dan, one more thing, Mmm, Iowa was
playing again this.
Speaker 9 (43:10):
Weekend after night.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
What is the over under on Iowa thirty and a half?
And you're going under?
Speaker 9 (43:16):
Of course, you have to bet the house Iowa under.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Who's Iowa playing Northwestern.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
Okay, I think I saw something like big ten West
teams are all averaging less than twenty five points.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But isn't Kirk Farrent's son the offensive coordinator, not coming
back next year?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
What if they rally for him?
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (43:36):
That raw? Yeah, that rally is going to be about
thirteen points?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Are they.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Dyl? I'll talk to you a little later on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yes, Dylan the graphics guy with Bad Larry and Shan Irving.
That'll be later today, available at dan patrick dot com.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Over under hot dogs today.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Now that hot dog machine in the back, it's getting
work for Dylan is he puts corn dogs on there.
He put an egg on there to make a hard
boiled egg. He had a Chicago dog already. He's usually
three or four hot dogs in by the time the
show gets over.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Final hour.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
On the way, he was victor one Byama Before Victor
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You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Dan and the Dance Dan Patrick Show. In case you
were not watching at the end of last dour big reveal,
I got the dan Ets a popcorn making machine right
out of a movie theater vintage, yes, vintage movie theater
popcorn for the dan Nets. And they're not supposed to
be eating while we're on the air, And it looks
like the back row is eating Seaton.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're not supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You can't just bring out a popcorn machine in there
and be like, okay, but see you in two hours.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
All right, all right, I get that's fair. Thank you
to Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was too good of a surprise to wait.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Who has it better than we do? No, Todd, do
you make your so loud when you eat?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I don't mean I know.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I just wanted to say something nice about how generous
the snow cone machine, the hot dog machine, and now
the popcorn machine.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Meat Friday.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
We've got the weights and the basketball hoop and what
kinds of stuff. It's like a carnival in here.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, you don't use the weights or the basketball stuff, but.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
I'm struggling to use the hot dog and the poplin
the snowcoaty Is.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
It just me?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Or can you have a sausage earlier in the morning,
but you can't have a hot dog earlier in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So like when you go to a tailgate, sausage is
one of the first thing you eat. It brought a
pole sausage really early. A hot dog does feel more
of a lunch food. Four or five of the guys
in back have already had a Chicago dog day.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I came in and Dylan said that he already had
a sauce. There's a corn dog back there, but it
feels like a hot dog.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He had a.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Chicago dog and I thought, wow, that's early to have that.
But it feels like a sausage you could have early.
You can't have the hot dog all right, So a
few things talk about. Congrats Rangers beat the Diamondbacks and
win their first ever World Series. Legendary head coach Bob
Knight passes away his former star player Steve Alford, who's
(02:25):
now a head coach at Nevada. He will join is
coming up and the Titans and the Steelers. Titans are
getting three tonight in Pittsburgh. Calendar. The autograph calendars are
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heard from our bosses and they reached out and said,
you like to play the new Beatles song. It's the
last Beatles song that was recorded. And iHeartRadio reached out
(03:08):
to us and they said it's called Now and Then,
and it was. It started with John Lennon recording something
in his apartment the Dakota in New York City and
put it on a cassette tape and it was sort
of there with all his belongings. After he was murdered,
and then Yoko Ono passed it on to Paul McCartney
and George Harrison and Ringo Starr and they were listening
(03:31):
to the music and the piano was too loud, the
quality wasn't very good, so it just kind of sat there.
But I don't think it ever left Paul McCartney's mind.
You know, it was something that he thought, is there
something we could do with that? And it would be
John's last song, and you know, they got in the
studio and like a decade later, still trying to do something,
(03:54):
and then Peter Jackson, brilliant filmmaker he had the documentary
on the Beatles, said you know what, there's technology that
we can take John Lennon's piano out of this. You
can have his vocals and the modern technology is what
brought this to light. So Paul then he said, I
can play my bass better than I did back in
(04:15):
the early eighties, and so he said, I want to
lay down a different bass track or a new track,
and then Ringo was there. George Harrison had put down
his guitar portion of this, but I don't know if
it was completed. And then Paul says, in like a
twelve minute video that talks about the process. Here they
(04:36):
found somebody who played slide guitar the way George was
playing it, and they brought all of this together and
it's called Now and Then. If you want to play
a little bit of that, the last song of John
Lennon and George Harrison, and it's true.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's all because of you, and then may get through.
It's all because.
Speaker 9 (05:25):
You, and then if we must start again, well.
Speaker 10 (05:43):
We well know Vosha the.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Well know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So the vocals were laid down by John Lennon back
in a late seventies demo. George Harrison his guitar was
recorded in nineteen ninety five. John Lennon wrote it and
sung that at his home in New York City, and
that was the same building the Dakota where he was
murdered in nineteen eighty and George Harrison originally didn't like it.
(06:29):
But the final Beatles song, Now and Then is a nationwide,
a worldwide release, and the final song. So they broke
up more than fifty years ago. Paul and Ringo are
both in their eighties and you can't help but watch
the video and not be moved by it, because you're
watching them and when they were doing this, how they
(06:52):
were doing this, and they would have embraced modern technology.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But Peter Jackson is the one who.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Brought this about and saved it, and I think that,
you know, that's the.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Beauty of it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Nineteen ninety four, Yoko, who was John Lennon's widow, gave
the demo to Paul in a cassette and it was
labeled for Paul and it contained vocals from John and
there were a couple other songs in there. But the
technical issues they thought that they were insurmountable. But that's
where Peter Jackson came in and said, no, I can
(07:25):
save this, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So if you go back to that Beatles documentary that
Peter Jackson directed, he was able to use it's way
above my head digitize things and identified people's voices and
different noises in a room and separate them so he
would be peeking in it Lennon, McCartney and those guys
working a song in a room full of people or noises,
and he dropped out everybody except for the main people
(07:47):
and the Beatles and got their conversations that would never
have made audio before. Once they founded that he could
do this. They took this song and said, we could
drop out the piano, just drop it out. It's like
the technology had to catch up with the music.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And you know, keep in mind, if Peter Jackson that
name sounds familiar, he was the one who gave us
Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit and also the
eight hour Beatles documentary that was called Get Back in
twenty twenty one. So using this technology to pick apart
the recordings of the songs of their final two albums,
Abby Road and Let It Be. And I think that's
(08:22):
the fun part of this, that you're seeing them collaborate
even though George and John have passed away.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yes, it really is crazy to think about. In the nineties,
you know, they're trying to do this. It's just the
three of them, and they're trying to write a song
around just a snippet that they had from John sitting
in his apartment. And then they all these years later,
they're trying to do that in the nineties and then
they sort of lose momentum, but in the process another
one of them dies and now they have to replace
(08:51):
that second one. And then finally, I don't know, forty
years later, they're able to complete the song just the
two surve members and it's very much a farewell. You know,
it's like, this is it, this is the last one.
They don't. This one took them that long to do.
There's no more and it feels like it's a John farewell.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But Paul McCartney said, it's really a farewell to George
Harrison as well on this and but you know, Ringo
and Paul refused.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
To let it go.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He was like, I'm going to get this done. I
got to figure out how to get this done, but
without technology. And I think Paul McCartney even says, look,
John would have been in favor of modern technology, and
they were always you know, ahead of the curve and
willing to experiment. But it's the last Beatles song. It's
entitled Now and Then. I can't go into Central Park
(09:44):
and be on the west side of Central Park without
coming out of the park going up the hill. Now
there's you know, the monument Strawberry Fields. That's some planting's
there right down below the Dakota. I always go up
that hill past the Strawberry Fields Memorial and walk up
(10:04):
to the Dakota always, and it's not that I'm revisiting
the crime scene as much as I just it. It's
a great reminder of you know, John his legacy. He
lived there, John Madden lived there in the Dakota Famous
building right off Central Park. And because it brings me back,
(10:26):
you know, when I was growing up who the Beatles
were from?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Hold my hand to you know.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
These incredible, incredible performances of something that was much deeper,
had so much you know, it's so much more complex
than all there like a boy band. Well they were
a boy band and then they became the greatest band
in history. And so to hear that, to be a
part of that, to be able to share that with
you is uh. I'm honored to be able to do that.
(10:57):
All right, So thank you to Julie Talbot and iHeartRadio,
the executives who chose our show to be able to
share that with you. All right, seton our two, we'll
talk to Steve Alford, former All American at Indiana won
a national title with Bob Knight, now the head coach
at Nevada, and Ralph Samson, the former Virginia and Rockets star.
(11:20):
I wanted to get his thoughts on Victor one Bayama
they're the same size. And I think if Ralph Samson
was playing today, he would be Victor one Bayama. He
had that much talent and he'll join He went in
the same year to the Basketball Hall of Fame as
Bob Knight did, and the College Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He went in there. I think the same.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't even know if Bob Knight showed up for that,
Like it wouldn't be past Bob Knight to not show.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Up for the Basketball Hall of Fame. All right, poll
question Seaton Day. We've got up there right now. Whose
career would you rather have up to this point? Mike Trout,
Cory sieg or Bryce Harper. Okay, let's guess that's the result. PAULI,
I'll let you go first. This is your baby.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I actually think that Bryce Harper will be slightly winning
the poll.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Okay, Marvin, I'm gonna say Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Also, all right, Todd Seager, I'm gonna say Mike Trout, Corey.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Seageran is not even close, not even close.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (12:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And you know, like the most of the comments are
like you got two rings, two World Series MVPs, you know,
Rookie of the Year, silver Slugger's Four Hours All Stars,
like all these things, like the dudes had a great
career and he's won. He might get to the Hall
of Fame. He might, Yeah, I just don't know how
many times. Like I think it all goes back to
this for me, Like do you sit in your backyard
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as a little kid hitting imaginary pitches to one day
be the nl MVP or to win the World Series?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
To win the World Series?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think that that ultimately is what it comes down to,
you know, like your dreams come true when you win
the championship, like you get to that highest point. It's
not necessarily when your your dreams don't necessarily come true
when you're.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Recognized as the best player. But you guys lost.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, And on top of that, he got to play
in California and Texas, to play in La and Dallas.
There's a couple of really fun cities to major cities
to be involved.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
In the top of his accomplishman. H yes, bully.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And also I think with this question, Cory Sieger's not
far from the Hall of Fame. He may have, you know,
crept up on it with what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Okay, what's the fewest hits of somebody going into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He could be in that mix.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He's got a thousand, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But the way his career is going right now, it's
going it's trending well for him, and if it's close
the postseason could help. But it's almost like we did
this a couple of weeks og with Robert or Robert
Ory barely started. It's not like Corey Steger, some bench
player you know that played once a while, but that
had a bunch of rings that he was partially responsible.
He's kind of a mid level example.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Of this hit two eighty six during the World Series,
three home runs, first shortstop in baseball history with three
home runs in a World Series. And of course he
did this with the Dodgers as well. He signed that
long contract with the Rangers and they ended up winning,
winning last night and take him out four games to one.
Who's second on that poll between Bryce Harper and Mike Trout.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Let's see second on the pole is Bryce Harper and
then Mike Trout. Mike Trott only has about seventeen percent.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, all right, so one of the top ten hitters
of all time. Do you think Mike Trout would trade
his career for Corey Seegers man.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Mike Trott's sitting looking at that bank account.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He's like, I'm good, Corey Seeger's got bank two, and
so does Bryce Harper. Corey Seeger signed that ten year
deal three hundred three, one hundred and twenty million or something.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's doing.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Okay, yes, bum, Corey Seger's got three hundred and forty
six career played appearances in the postseason. Mike Trout has eleven,
Corey Seeger has two World Series MVPs. Mike Trott has
played in three postseason games. It's extreme.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Seemed to be rubbing it in there. Pull Now you
kind of slowed down to emphasize it like Todd does.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yes, three Worlds. He's got to sell it or.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Seeger still goes to Mike Trout for a loan though,
if he wants to buy himself a football team.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's like, Mike, I need your help. Where do we
stand on technology with music? Because you can't listen to
anything now without hearing technology?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean, all right, you can go all the
way back to uh is it an amplifier technology?
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Then?
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
There's a certain purity to it, but ultimately you plugged in.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, but something that enhances your voice to make it
sound better than what it really is, or your guitar
to make it sound better than what it is. Are
we all in on that where you auto tune those things?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, people have made auto tune into an instrument, so
it's not like, well, it's not like you know, uh
uh ariana Grande actually can't sing, but because of auto tune,
she sounds really good. She's great, you know, she's phenomenal.
There are just other dudes who have or other artists
who have made it into its own instrument, so it's
like it's all an instrument.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
At this point, technology itself is just an instrument.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes time to me, it's kind of.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like cycling and blood doping we spoke about recently.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Everyone's doing it.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
It's cheating, but everyone's doing it. Whoever can do it
the best, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay, but you don't get suspended if you're doing auto two.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You don't lose like your Grammy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They're all doing well. You lose your Grammy if your
lip syncing, you know, like Millie Vanilli. Yes, yes, the
biggest problem by far is ai. That's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Somebody yesterday released Johnny Cash singing Taylor Swift songs, and
it's not it's obviously not real.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And it's obviously not real. But it sounds exactly like
if Johnny Cash sat down at a microphone and started
covering Taylor Swift. In twenty years, you're not gonna have
any and maybe in five years you're not gonna have
any idea what's real and what's not.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
It's terrible, it's awful.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I got a blank space radio right.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
Things you can tell me when it's over, if the
high was worth lookin, got a long list of ex lovers.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They'll tell you and.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Saying, you're telling me that's not Johnny Cash really singing
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I actually love this hate it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Okay, I'm okay with this.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I'm okay with this. You I can be I have
to be honest. If it came on, I'm not turning
it off.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
There's someday there's going to be a Dan Patrick hosting
radio shows that's like, yeah, and he'll do better than
I do. Yeah, it's terrible, and I'll be all for that.
It might be today, I might not.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
Even be real.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm not even real.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
How about we take a break. Steve Alford will reminisce.
I'll bring back portion of an interview that I think
sums up my relationship with Bob Knight and really his
relationship with himself. I'll have that for you coming up.
But Steve Alford will join us next reminisce about his
former coach Bob Knight. Back after this, when's lifetime you
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Steve Alford, Nevada head basketball coach since twenty nineteen, won
a championship with Bob Knight back in nineteen eighty seven,
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and of course played in the NBA for a little while.
Former Dallas Mavericks second round pick nineteen eighty seven. Steve
joins us Now, Steve, thanks for joining us. How should
we remember Bob Knight?
Speaker 13 (20:21):
Yeah, that's a hard one, Dan, you obviously knowing very
well as well. But I'll just always appreciate coach for
his preparation, his discipline, his ability to teach players to
compete every possession, no matter what the drill was improving daily,
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and then ultimately, I just think he was the ultimate winner.
And those are traits that I think a lot of
our players, a lot of teammates, We've been on a
lot of text group text, and we've been talking about
that that not just all those traits apply to the
basketball court. I think even more so, his legacy will
be the people that were able to play for him
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and coach with him. Those traits made them winners off
the court. And that's probably what I'm gonna remember most
about coach.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
How difficult was it in the moment when you're being
coached by Bob Knight to understand now what you've extracted?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh, that's no question.
Speaker 13 (21:22):
I think that was the that was the art of
what kind of player you're going to be if obviously
a little different language, so you had to not ever
take things personal. You had to know he loved you
and loved you deeply. There were a lot of times,
and he said it a lot in coaching to so
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many players. AI always say, I want you to be
better than you want to be. And I always took
that the heart. I always I never wanted to be that.
I wanted him to know that. No, I wanted to
be that good as well. But there were days in
that definitely wanted me to be better than I was
on certain days, and you had to You had to
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decipher everything out and understand what he was saying. And
when you did that, uh, that's when I felt like
I really grew as a player and as a person.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But I wonder when you won that national championship, how
much was joy and how much was more of just
a relief.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Oh it was joy, you know.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
The relief part I think kind of gets over and
kind of dramatized.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
I think when you're in when you're in battle. He
was the general.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
I mean, that's who he was, and that's the that's
the foxhole you wanted to be in and we knew
that as players, we were the best prepared team. We
felt like we were the most disciplined team.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Uh. He will tell you. Uh.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
You know, I got an autograph picture on my wall
and he talks about when he wrote the autograph, how
great a player I was. Then he put in parentheses offense.
So so you understand. You just you understood your role
and you went out and played that role the best.
But I think it's like anything, Dan, when you put
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everything in it and then you win it and you
have success, you have great joy and appreciation for the process.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
And the journey.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Ever think about leaving Indiana never and noo.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
There were times that I would call mom and dad
and say, hey, you're two hours away, come get me.
You know, those things happened because it's it's it wasn't easy.
It was tough. But I think that's why you know,
I got better, right, you know, Dan, I was. I
was chasing the all time scoring record at Indiana, which
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you know, when you're an Indiana kid and you grow
up and all the incredible players that played there, and
now you're in that the media is talking about you
being this and that, and we're right in a Big
Ten chase, and we're going to Northwestern, a team that
you know, we had hammered, and then on to Wisconsin,
a team we'd be fifty five points at home, and
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we beat Wisconsin and triple overtime. But the Northwestern game
was the first trip and if I just if I
get my average, I break the school record. And you
can't help but think about those things growing up in
the state, knowing what you're trying to do. And I
can remember after that game. We barely won the game.
My teammates played a lot better than me, and Coach
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just ripped me in the locker room, he ripped me
in the media, and it was not about scoring. It
was all about my leadership. And I really at that
point maybe didn't understand that. But when we got back
from that road trip, I'm like, you know, it wasn't
about some individual thing. It was about my lack of
leadership and learning how to lead my team through difficult times.
(24:45):
And that's what made coach special. He just knew how
to do the things that he knew the buttons depressed
to make you better.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Steve Alford, Nevada head basketball coach, won a championship with
Bob Knight. That was back in nineteen eighty seven. You
got a picture b behind you on the wall. Describe
that picture for the audience that's listening on radio.
Speaker 13 (25:07):
That's just a picture of coach and I think I
think Daryl's in it and Keith. I think Keith Smart's
in it as well, and just other teammates of just
after winning the championship in the Superdome in New Orleans,
and you know, just being there with Coach and experiencing
that with Coach was a very very special moment for
all of us.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
When did you have your last conversation with him?
Speaker 13 (25:31):
I got to see him about a month ago, not
really conversation. Coach was not in very good health, but
I was able to sit with Pat, his son, for
about three hours in the home, and you know, just
tell stories with Pat. Pat was in junior high when
I was playing it at Indiana, so known Pat in
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the family for a very long time, obviously going to
coaches camp since third grade. I grew up knowing Coach
Knight's family very very well well. So I was able
to do that. But uh, he's a much better place
than in peace now because it's been a it's been
a tough road here over the last several months.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Tell the story when you had to walk home from
the airport.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
Well, and that's the thing Dan, you appreciate about coach
is that, Uh he did it the right way.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (26:22):
Not only was he a highly successful, winning coach, but
he did it with integrity of the rules. It was
always about respecting the game with him.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (26:31):
He loved his players, he loved his team. And I
did a I posed for a calendar. I was the
I was the month of February. I was the Love Month.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
This is a fundraiser for a sorority on campus.
Speaker 13 (26:46):
This was a fundraiser for a sorority on campus for
handicapped girls to go to summer camp. And I thought
I was doing the right thing, and but the wrong
thing was you're you're taught at Indiana, you go to compliance,
you go to the assistant coaches, you make sure you
cover yourself.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
And I didn't do that. That was my mistake.
Speaker 13 (27:05):
And on top of it, it was a Kentucky game,
and anybody that knows coach and the feelings of Kentucky
at the time would know what I'm talking about. So
the irony of me being suspended for the Kentucky game
for a compliance issue. Really dug deep to coach, but
it again speaks volume as a coach. He didn't fight it.
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He didn't try to get administrators or people from the
outside to fix it. He's like, no, you made a mistake,
and now you're gonna feel that mistake because it's not
just gonna affect you, it's gonna affect your team.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Dan Dockage was RGA at the time. I'd played with
Dan for a couple of years, and so I went
to Dan. I said, Dan, I've been suspended, but am
I supposed to go on the road trip or not?
He said, I don't know what to tell you, but
I think i'd be on the bus. So I was
on the bus. And when you when you exit a
bus for a road trip or any other time, coach
would always hit you on the back as you left
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the bus, and we got our trench coats on. It's cold,
and I'm one of the last players off the bus
and I see him just hitting everybody. I'll never forget Dan.
He hits me and then he grabs the back of
my coat and pulls me back in the bus and says,
what are you doing. You're at home, you're suspended. Think
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about what you did. Support your teammates from home. Find
your own way home. So it's twenty minutes from campus
out in the middle of the winter, and I just
start walking. I see the plane go through the cloud
and I'm walking. I get about a half mile up
the road, and the poor bus driver saw all this.
The bus pulls up next to me. He opens up
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and he just looks at me, and he goes need
a ride.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
I said, yeah, it'd be great right now. I appreciate
a ride.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I hope the coach that the bus driver didn't know that,
you know, coach.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Oh no, I think that was just something kept between
the bus.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm sure it was. Hey, my best of the family.
Great to talk to you. Thanks for reminiscent.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Thanks so much, JN. I appreciate having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's Steve Alford, the Bad Ahead basketball coach since twenty
nineteen and won a title there at Indiana nineteen eighty seven.
I mentioned that I had a interesting The word I
always use is complicated with Coach Knight. Coach Knight hated
the sports center anchors. He hated probably Keith Overman more
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than me. But it was by proxy because we were
doing the eleven o'clock Sports Center at the time, and
I just remember there was a clip in a highlight
and Bob Knight was grabbing his son and I think
Keith may have used the words at Home with the Knights,
and I remember Bob Knight didn't want to do anything
with the ESPN and it was Jay Billis. Jay Billis
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was out at Indiana. He was going to do a
game and Bob Knight asked Jay Billis basically about is
there any good sports center anchor who knows basketball? And
Jay Billis and I'm paraphrasing here, but he said Dan
Patrick and he said, have him call me. So Jay
Billis comes back to campus and he said, hey, Bob,
and I wants you to call him. I go, oh no,
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and he goes, no no. I told him, you know basketball.
I call the Indiana Basketball Office secretary puts me through
and he's like, Billis said, you know basketball? I said yeah,
And I started telling him of people. Don Donaher was
the Dayton basketball coach. He loved coach Donnaher. So we
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just started talking and talking basketball, and I still wasn't
sure where this was going. And he says to me, Hey,
you ever need me on your show, you call, I'm
thinking what And we had him on numerous times. I
remember we had him on and we wanted to talk football.
Is Ohio State Michigan And we surprised him because he
(30:54):
went to Ohio State played basketball and we had Bo
Schembeckler on, who was one of his idols, Michigan head coach,
and oh my gosh, he just loved it, called back
and thanked us. Then we were talking baseball. A couple
of years later. He's friends with Tony Larusa Cardinals in
the World Series. We surprised coach Knight when he was
(31:15):
on and we had Tony Larusa call in.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
He loved that. And then when I.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Started doing the six o'clock Sports Center, the first night
I'm doing the six o'clock Sports Center, we had Bob
Knight on. He was at Texas Tech. Paulie and Fritzie
sent him a Dan Patrick Show sweatshirt. Now he's got
a clipboard in front of Dan Patrick's show on his sweatshirt.
I don't even I don't know that he's doing this.
(31:40):
I know we're having him on, and I introduced him.
He drops the clipboard. He basically says, what the hell
is this? Why do I have this on? And it
just kind of, you know, further emphasized that I was
part of the inner circle there with Bob Knight. I
had friends who played for him. I had people who
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swear swore by him and swore at him. And you know,
once again, a complicated relationship, complicated person. You can't talk
about Bob Knight the basketball coach and not talk about
Bob Knight and everything else. You can't talk about everything
else and not talk about Bob Knight, basketball coach. The
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basketball part I always thought was the easiest part for him.
This is a coach who demanded poise, composure, but he
didn't have it. But he knew basketball. You know the
Neil Reid where he grabs him by the throat. A
former co worker of mine, Robert Abbott, is the one
who discovered that video brought that delight, throwing the chair.
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How he treated his players, you had to be a
certain there had to be a certain makeup for you
to be able to survive playing for Bob Knight. It's
almost like you know, they talk about Lombardi the Packers,
Hey treat us all the same, like dogs, but they
all talk about how what Lombardy instilled in them made
them great men, great businessmen. And you know, Bill Parcells
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to me, was you know, he followed in Bob Knight's
footsteps of how he treated the media and maybe how
he treated his players as well. But I remember when
I first saw Parcels at a press conference, I went, oh, man,
he's Bob Knight. We did have the moment, and it's
a moment that I wasn't sure what was going to happen,
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but I was going to ask the question because I
was asking the question as a basketball fan. I grew
up two and a half hours away from Bloomington. I
knew the importance of Bob Knight. I knew what he
meant to that fan base. And when we're talking fishing,
we're talking basketball, we're talking about a variety of things.
And then on March tenth of twenty seventeen, I asked
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this question, why do we want you to go back
to Assembly Hall so bad? I know that might not
be on your wish list or front burner here, but
why do we the fans want closure with this coach?
Speaker 12 (34:10):
Well? I think that I've always really enjoyed the fans,
and I always will you know that, on my dying day,
I will think about how great the fans that Indiana
were and as far as the hierarchy at Indiana University
at that time, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for
(34:34):
those people, and that in mind, I have no interest
in ever going back to that university.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Most of those people aren't. Aren't all those people out
of there.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Though, Coach I hope they're all dead.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, I know some of them are, but I don't know.
Speaker 12 (34:53):
I hope the rest of them go.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And I'd like to still see you on that court
with that seventy six team or Isaiah's team.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe we want closure, maybe you don't need the closure.
I don't know, but you know I still hope for
it one day.
Speaker 12 (35:10):
Well hope Rigi Knel.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
He went back in twenty twenty, and I actually tried
to work behind the scenes to make that happen. Whether
it had any influence on Coach Night going back, I
just was reminding people of this is about those people,
not the people an administration there. They were all gone.
(35:39):
Those people were still there, and they needed to say
thank you, They needed to say goodbye. And he needed
to say thank you and he needed to say goodbye.
I thought it was imperative. I thought that it would
be something that he would take the rest of his
life and regret. And he went back, and I think
he truly appreciated that he went back because he was
(36:02):
going through treatment. He was living in Bloomington, but he
wouldn't go to campus. But hopefully there's closure once again complicated.
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Speaker 1 (37:29):
Seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
We never have enough time to get to everything we
want to get.
Speaker 14 (37:33):
To and that's why we have a brand new podcast
called over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun
in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly,
because this guy is over promising things we never have
time for. Yeah, you blubber this jam and me.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well you know what it's called over promise.
Speaker 11 (37:50):
You should be good at it because you've been over
promising women for years.
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Well, it's a Cavino and Rich after show, and we
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Speaker 2 (38:28):
Big game tonight for Will Levis? How many people are
on the bandwagon? Officially four touchdown passes last game, no interceptions.
Now you go against the Steelers in Pittsburgh, Titans getting three.
It makes it an interesting It makes it far more
interesting than just hey, what's on tonight Thursday Night football?
To be the Titans Steelers? Then all of a sudden,
(38:50):
it's like Will Levis against the Steeler defense. Okay, all right,
I'm interested, Ampong.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
How do we look at the Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett,
Is he your two?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It feels like he's the younger brother of Danny Dimes,
that he's got talent, he has moments, he doesn't turn
the ball over the way Danny Dimes does. But you
know Daniel Jones has talent. I mean, he he could
rush for eight hundred yards. He could rush for a
thousand yards if they wanted him to. But it feels
(39:22):
like with Kenny Pickett, whenever something goes wrong, they blame
the offensive coordinator. You've got a couple of really good
receivers there, You've got a respectable running back. You've got
a coach that gets his team into the playoffs there.
So I don't know about Kenny Pickett. Like there's not
too many quarterbacks where you go. I'm not quite sure
(39:44):
he's one of those quarterbacks. I'm just not quite sure
has moments. But I don't know. I mean, the position
is about being consistent. What can you expect out of
that person weekend and week out?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Quite sure what you get from Kenny Pickett. Feels like
when you talk about the Steelers, you go man that defense.
You don't talk about the offense.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, pull, Yeah, he's Kenny Pickett in two years is
eleven and eight as a starter, but it doesn't feel
like he's responsible for that.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Eleven of Dylan, our graphics guy, part of the Dan
Patrick takes a gamble podcast that we'll record later today,
And thank you for all the support. I got a
big audience that follows this and hopefully you're betting on
some of the picks the selection, especially Dylan. Dylan, of
course had the money line with Stanford beating Colorado that
(40:34):
was a couple of weeks ago. But he doesn't rest
on his laurels. He said at the beginning of the
postseason he had the Texas Rangers to win the World Series.
Congratulations Dylan, Thank you.
Speaker 10 (40:42):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
All right, do you have a parlay for the audience
to share this weekend?
Speaker 9 (40:47):
I do quickly though.
Speaker 10 (40:49):
Last week, Yeah, three money line underdogs parlayed. Panthers beat
the Texans, the Titans beat the Falcons, and I think
we all remember the Giants Jets game.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What would that have paid out.
Speaker 9 (41:05):
Like eleven to one point?
Speaker 10 (41:07):
Yeah, so I basically I did the old mental like
celebrating a little too early.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Oh did you celebrate? You think they're gonna win it
before it goes into overtime.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
Well it was what was it, ten to seven, with
like no time on the clock, and I was like,
all right, wrapped up, and then it went into overtime
and I just turned it off at that point.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
You knew.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
I knew I. Once it went into overtime, I was like,
this is over. They're gonna win. The Jets are gonna
kick it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
So you're still doing well in the podcast with bad
Larry and Shaye and Irving. Yeah, okay, what's your parlay
this weekend?
Speaker 10 (41:40):
So even though it was burned last week, Dan, I'm
doing all money line dogs again, okay, because they're barking.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay, you have to tell us, oh yeah, yeah, I'm
getting there.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We're not going to guess.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
Yeah, take a guess. All right.
Speaker 10 (41:56):
So we got Seahawks money line against the Ravens. It's
a big one six point dogs. Seahawks are good and
the Ravens. As a Ravens fan, I don't like taking
them on their favorites. Okay, Vikings money line against them.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
By the way, there's not a logic, lot of logic
to Dylan. Sometimes just sometimes you'll make picks and I'll
go wid and he goes, I don't know, Okay.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
Dan, I'm like when you're like, all right, this team's
eleven to zero in the third week of November, and
when the barometric pressure is low, they always cover the spread.
It never works, so you have to zag.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yes, Dylan, you're picking the Vikings over the Falcons without Kircuzins.
Is that a rally the troops victory?
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
I think so, And I just I don't know. The
Falcons can't really figure it out either. So, and Josh
Dobbs actually did alright with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Is he starting?
Speaker 9 (42:43):
I believe he is.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Okay, So you once again recapping the parley.
Speaker 10 (42:49):
Yeah, so I got Seahawks money line, Vikings money line,
and then Bucks money line against the Texans and all
of those are seafaring creatures. That was a coincidence of
Seahawks Spikings Buccaneers and this pays out eighteen to one.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (43:05):
And then also Dan, one more thing, Mmm, Iowa was
playing again this.
Speaker 9 (43:10):
Weekend after night.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
What is the over under on Iowa thirty and a half?
And you're going under?
Speaker 9 (43:16):
Of course, you have to bet the house Iowa under.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Who's Iowa playing Northwestern.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
Okay, I think I saw something like big ten West
teams are all averaging less than twenty five points.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
But isn't Kirk Farrent's son the offensive coordinator, not coming
back next year?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
What if they rally for him?
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (43:36):
That raw? Yeah, that rally is going to be about
thirteen points?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Are they.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Dyl? I'll talk to you a little later on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yes, Dylan the graphics guy with Bad Larry and Shan Irving.
That'll be later today, available at dan patrick dot com.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Over under hot dogs today.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Now that hot dog machine in the back, it's getting
work for Dylan is he puts corn dogs on there.
He put an egg on there to make a hard
boiled egg. He had a Chicago dog already. He's usually
three or four hot dogs in by the time the
show gets over.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Final hour.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
On the way, he was victor one Byama Before Victor
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