December 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes consider which NFL franchises are currently in the worst shape. And form NFL RB and current analyst, Maurice Jones-Drew drops by to talk some pigskin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Danets,
Dan Patrick show Down to Danette seating off for the day.
Fritzie's here, Marvin's here, paul E yours truly, and the
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the program. Our favorite Maurice Jones Drew, former NFL running back,
works for NFL Network. He'll recap what we saw last night,
(00:28):
how dangerous are the Minnesota Vikings, and what would he
do with Sam Darnold moving forward with that contract.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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for downloading the app. Our radio affiliates as well. Pull question.
We had it in hour one. We're going to keep
it for hour two. Todd, give the wording on that.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Which NFL franchise feels like it is in the worst shape. Giants, Browns, Raiders, Bears, Panthers, Jags, Titans, or.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
If you're so inclined to other and we have some
early results that.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You're interested, Okay, I am interested the Giants. How about
we guess?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Okay, Marvin's are not the first place, Marvin. Maybe they
are the Titans.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, Paul, after last night the Bears, I'm gonna say
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We've got twenty seven and a half percent. Say Giants,
twenty four percent, Browns, followed by Raiders, Bears, Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't think the Bears are in a bad situation.
I think they've had a bad situation with the head coach.
You've gotta have stability. If you have a rookie quarterback,
you've got to have the same coach, offensive coordinator, head coach,
and maybe you get that, you know, stability. This is
a franchise that passed on Tom Brady late in Tom's career,
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and they passed on Jim Harbaugh. They don't make good
decisions normally, and now you have the future of Caleb
Williams at your fingertips. You got to make sure you
make the right decision here. They passed on Bill Belichick.
Are they getting Ben Johnson from the Lions? And is
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that enough to change the culture of the Chicago Bears.
We'll talk to Mojo and Greg Olsen NFL and Fox
will stop by as well. Vikings handle the Bears. Bears
have lost eight in a row, thirty to twelve. The
final Vikings now twelve and two. Bears dropped to four
and ten. Falcons beat the Raiders. Falcons are seven and seven.
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That didn't feel like a win. And once again with
Kirk Cousins, he is not done well. He's got one
touchdown pass nine picks in the last five games. The
Raiders dropped to two and twelve. See, I thought that
was going to be a game the Raiders would win
and then screw things up. Because if you're the Raiders,
if you're Mark Davis, the owner, you want to make
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sure that you get the number one pick in the draft,
worst case scenario, maybe the second.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Pick, and there you got to get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You can get shudor Sanders or cam Ward if they
graded out and they you know, it feels like that's
who you want, or you get Travis Hunter. But I
look at the Raiders and Max Crosby will be back.
I don't know if Antonio Pierce will be back. It
feels like I have no information on this, but getting
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that number one pick maybe attracts more attention with coaching
candidates there, did you leave your microphone on Marvin? I?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Sure did.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Preach.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I like that, go all your bad self, like when
you're in a movie theater and there's something that's getting
ready bad gonna happen, and then you start to say something.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
It definitely felt very churchy. Oh okay from my part
growing up in the church preaching. Sorry did you sing
in the church choir?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:03):
And the children's choir, oh you did? Yeah, my Zion
Baptist Church children's choir. Okay, from about eight to eleven. Okay,
that's how long church service.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Was, from eight in the morning until eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, I needed a pitch clock in church, you know.
I needed them to speed it up a little bit there,
because it used to be like an hour when you
go for a Catholic Mass, and then all of a sudden,
it's like, uh, we we cut short some things here,
speed up some things here. You want to get more
people to go to church, make it thirty five minutes?
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And why why was my family always late to church?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, granted my mom had to get six kids together,
throw all of us in a station wagon, but even
now when my wife goes to church, we're late because
you go you wait till the last minute to get
out there the door when it goes to church, at
least in my family, it's like, let me see, it's
gonna take seven minutes to get there. Let's leave and
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uh six and a half minutes. Nick can't find parking.
Then you walk in because my wife's always.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Like, oh god, I walk in late.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Then you got a walk and there's bad seats.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And it's like, it's okay, all right, I'd rather sit
in the choir all the way up where the organ is.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Yes, Paul, and the families that walk in late, the
door creaks open and breaks the silence, and everyone does
the judgmental turnback look to the late family. It's not
that important to that, but not that important. And then
you have to like, like you're breaking into a building,
you tiptoe to your seat, excuse.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Or you leave right after communion?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Oo.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That was That was a great move by me, although
I have to admit, well, I did admit finally too
my you know what I didn't admit my my brothers
and sisters they ratted me out. I used to drop
them off for church, and I would carry a pair
of con and put them in the trunk so I'd
drop them off and I would have my younger brother,
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my two younger sisters, and I'd drop them off and
I'd say, hey, get me, you know a leaflet, give
me the the pamphlin.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yes, yes, I'd go shoot basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And then I'd so I'd get my put my cons on,
and then I would go shoot, and then I'd come
back and pick them up, and then we go home.
And you know, I had proof. And then they finally
ratted me out. They said, you know, Dan doesn't go
to church. And my mom was like, Danny, I go,
what Dave says that you don't go to church. I go,
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I go to church. I don't go into church. Although
there was a two year window, I pulled off one
of the great ones. I said to my mom Notre
Dame football re air Sunday morning, Lindsey Nelson and Paul Horning.
You got to watch a truncated you know, they would
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cut down the Notre Dame game.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And I said to my mom, I said, Mom, it's
kind of like church. It's Notre Dame football. And my
mom let me get away with that for two years, and.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Then all of a sudden, my brother and then my
sisters and then everybody became a Notre Dame fan, and
then that ruined it. So then I had to go
back going to church. I had to go to church
every single morning when I was growing up. Every day
it's Saturday, get dressed up, going there, little guy sit there.
I had no idea what was going on. I just
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knew that I was already in trouble. I already had
a sin, and the original sin. And I said to
my mom what did I do? And she said, you
didn't do anything. I said, I got a sin. I
can't even get rid of it. I can't even go
to confession. And then she goes, don't worry about it.
It's a really minor sin. I said, I didn't do anything,
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and she said, you'll get a chance to get rid
of it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yes, Tom, how long did you get away with playing basketball?
And what made them finally decide this is bull? I'm
gonna we're gonna rat Dan out. There's no way he
can get away with this.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't know why they turned on me, but you know,
snitches get stitches, and you know, I take matters into
my own hands.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
With my younger brother. He said, you do it again. No,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's you know siblings, they're gonna turn on you can't
trust him even now, turn on me now? Yes, I
think the eighth commandment is thou shalt not nark? Isn't
it checking my notes? I was an altar boy.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think it's thou shalt not shoot hoops?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because my mom goes, don't you want to be closer
to God and be an altar boy? And I go, no, No, Mom,
I gotta make jumpers like I'm gonna I'm gonna make
it rain.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm gonna buy you a house, all right. Maybe I'll
get you a dishwasher, yes.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Martin, Yeah, be in all states way more more.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think Pete Merrivis said that if you if you
said heaven or being all state All state, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, careful, third team all state. Yeah, wait, he's
got to be first team. No, I wasn't first team.
That's third team. That's all right, I'll take it. I'll
take it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Maybe a shooting contest with me and steven A. Maybe
maybe set that up there, Fritzie, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Good, look into that. That sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I might worry about Van Peasey more than I would
steven A. I think I played one pickup game with
van Pelt.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
From the free throw line.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think he's probably got some nice for him, you know, shooter.
All right, dang, I got sidetracked there.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
June in Virginia beach, Hi June, thanks for holding what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Good morning, Dan and Danetts. I call you every year
around this I'm Today is my son, Marty's forty third birthday,
and he just celebrated seven years of beating als. It
has taken his body, but it's not taken his spirit,
or his intelligence or his sense of humor. And Marty
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was almost born with a love of sports. He learned
to read when he was three years old because he
wanted to read the sports page and read about his
football teams. And he picked the Detroit Lions when he
was three years old as his team. So there have
been a lot of lean years, but he's stuck with them.
Barry Sanders is his all time favorite athlete. And I
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just like every year for you guys to sing happy
birthday to him and give him a little lift. And
I know that I'm going to be calling you until
you retire every year for Marty's birthday because he's convinced
that he has the Stephen Hawking kind of als it's
gonna take his body, but it's figured out it's not
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going to kill him, so it's going to leave him alone.
So looking forward to a long life.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, June, you might have to call me when I
retire from this just so we can say and sing
the following Happy birthday, June.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Thank you very much. Yes, I love you well, we
love you too.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Thank you very very nice that you call in and
Uh June and Virginia Beach Uh, Andrew and Washington, Hi Andrew.
Speaker 10 (11:46):
Good morning, Dan Denne's thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Have to follow that up.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
Happy birthday, Marty. I now want the Lions to win
the Super Bowl this year, just for Marty.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Seriously.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
On another note, there's no bad ideas about the NBA.
How about every place on the active roster on the
bench has to play sometime. You bring it back to
you know, when you were in grade school and everybody
got a rotation, So maybe that's an option that.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Everybody has to play.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
But Dan, I did call because I'm going to join
the surgery, the shoulder surgery group tomorrow, and I wanted
to see how yours was going, what your recovery is like.
What your PT was and how you are today.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Everything's good. I do PT a couple of times a
week here in the.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Man Cave and making great progress there, So good luck
with that. Andrew shoulders, they don't have it down yet.
It's hips they do knees pretty good shoulders. That feels
like an inexact science just from my own personal surgeries
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that I've had. But once again, minor surgery is when
it's on someone else. Whenever they put you under, it's
not minor surgery. Just say, let me see Rick and
grand Rapids. Hi Rick, Uh, first one line line one,
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Marv Hey Rick or Rodney?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
This is Rod Hey, rod how's it going good? What's
on your mind?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Good? Good?
Speaker 11 (13:22):
Hey, first time caller, long, long time listener. Appreciate what
you guys do. Uh, No bad ideas for the NBA.
Since I'm in the heartland of NBA in Northwest Iowa here,
how about we just make everything a three pointer except
for inside the box.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I don't want more three pointers.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But once again, no bad ideas. I don't know if
they do something with the court, I don't. And once again,
we talked about this at LinkedIn the first hour Baseball's trying,
but baseball needed to try. The NBA has had, you know,
a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Baseball's had.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Baseball had a great year this year, and there are
things to build on the gold net bat.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Do I like it?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, that doesn't mean that I would reject it. I'd
like to see it if you did it in spring training.
I mean that's how it started with the pitch count, Like,
let's just see it before you go.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
If I would have said a red, white and blue
basketball and a three point shot back when the ABA
came into business, you'd be like, what yeh makey?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's silly.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
A lot of the stuff that was going on in
the ABA, the NBA adopted, the NFL has adopted, Like
you have to adapt or you get steamrolled. And you're
going against this behemoth in the NFL. Now they're going
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to play games on Christmas Day. That was the NBA's
coming out party. They don't care. They want to eat
everything in front of them, the gambling, everything, and baseball
and basketball trying to keep up having gambling. It it's
it's nothing compared to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yes, Dodd, what if you miss a three and they
subtract three points from your score. That'll kind of reduce
the number three points, especially the ones that aren't very
good at taken them.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
What you just do?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We were up seventy one sixty three and out sixty
eight sixty three.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
There's no bad ideas to lose three points when you missed.
There is no bad ideas today.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
None.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right, we'll take a break. Maurice Jones Drew will
join us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Last game, which team feels the most hopeless right now?
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
Over the last three games, the Bears have been outscored
fifty three to nothing in the first half. Chicago's the
first team to have three consecutive scoreless first halfs since
the twenty eighteen Jacksonville Jaguars. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
How stead of a day.
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Speaker 3 (17:41):
He is Maurice Jones.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Drew, NFL network analyst, RAMS Radio color analyst, and former
NFL running back. Good to see you again, Good to
have you on the program. How threatening are the Vikings?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Mojo well first and foremost, Dan, great to be back. Second.
No Jaguars lander will be allowed while I'm on here.
No more Jaguars slander. We've had enough.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Okay, okay, we've had enough.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Stat of the day, you know, unless it's positive, we
don't want to talk anything negative about the Jags, all right.
Stat of the day was a little That was a
little tough for me to hear you say that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, I've learned my lesson. I'll try to be nice.
Let me see if I can find something nicer. How
about when I was gonna say.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
It's okay, we can move on, you know, you know,
Jags near and dear to our hearts here and the
Jones Drew household. Been a tough season, but we can
move forward.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I didn't have this one.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Raiders have trailed by double digits, in all fourteen
games this season.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't help either. That doesn't help.
But we're going the wrong way. Let's talk about the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, how threatening are the Vikings to me?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I think the Vikings when Sam Darnold is and the
way he's playing, they can beat anyone, especially in the
in the NFC North. Now with Detroit going through all
those injuries, and I know Dan Campbell's fired up about
the the challenge that will be for his team, But
in the NFL, it's it's about the Krim, Dela Krim.
It's about the talent that you have on that roster,
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and miss is so many guys that they have right
now on defense, David Montgomery out for this season. That's
gonna be tough to overcome.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I'm not saying they can't do it, but the way
the Vikings are playing, they're my favor right now to
win the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What would you do with Sam Darnold's contract moving forward?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I would I would actually sign Sam to a two
to three year deal, continue to let JJ McCarthy sit
and learn, very similar to what kind of the Packers
do with Jordan Love. If Sam can continue to play
this way, I think the Vikings have a great chance
to continue to build a roster with him and then
obviously move on from him in a year two years,
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and then put J. J. McCarthy in there, and you're
reading a role you got to you had a winner.
So to me, I think they put themselves in a
position out Let me be honest. I wasn't a believer
in Sam Darnold. I don't think many were because of
what he did in New York, and I know he
played better in Carolina. I know he sat with the Niners,
but what we saw from him as a full starter
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in New York was tough to watch, right, a lot
of turnovers, a lot of mistakes being made. But kudos
to him for working on himself, working on his game
and going into Minnesota into a situation where you have
a lot of weapons around you, and he's really taken
advantage of this opportunity. So to me, he's earned the
right to play again next year, especially being what where
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they're twelve and two right now and and you have
a chance to win the North. To me, that's a
huge accomplishment for not only does the Vikings organization, but
for Sam himself.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Pristine give mojo.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The poll question question is which NFL franchise feels like
it is in the worst shape? Bears, Giants, Anthers, Raiders, Browns, Jaguars, Titans.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
What in that group who's in the worst shape moving forward?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You know, again, I told you no Jaguars slander, so
you didn't have to put them in there. Also, Brian
Callahan is a great friend of mine. No Titan slander.
I feel like that franchise is on the rise, that
they have a good defense, they're rolling. To me, it
has to be the Giants, and the reason being is
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you let go of I want to say two or
three players in free agency that are playing well for
the McKinney in Green Bay, obviously Saquon and Philly, And
I want to say there was another player that's actually
playing really well that they let go of free agency.
You just can't let talent hit free agency and not
bring them back. You just can't do that. And a
lot of that was because they paid Daniel Jones a
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ton of money. Now you let you, you let go right,
And now you're sitting there in disarray trying to figure
out what's going on. Another tough season for them and
what makes it worse for me is that they did
the off season hard knocks and the way they were
talking about their players right, and that to me just is.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Now, Yes, the Browns have a tough situation. I think
all those teams are in pretty volatile situations. But to me,
the Giants just how it went about it, what it
looked like from the outside, and then getting a peak
on the inside it looked exactly what we thought it
was going to look like, and then the season you
have it just doesn't work well for me.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, I was really surprised that they allowed those behind
the scenes phone calls and you have the you know,
the GM talking to Saquon Barkley, and it just it
was embarrassing because I mean, not having you know, read
the room, understand what you're saying. You're saying it on
TV cameras and you're basically saying this one Barkley, Yeah,
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go ahead and see if somebody likes you. But you know,
come back to us and let us know. Man, I'd
be out the door be like nope, I'm not going
to look back on this.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Well, yeah, shout out to the scout too, or the
one of the personnel people were like, are you sure
you want to do this? Right? He was there to
make sure, like are you sure you want to let
saquad walk? And they were kind of like, yeah, oh yeah,
We're not going to pay a quarterback forty million dollars
to turn around and hand off to a thirteen million
dollar back, Like, well, guess what. Philly is more than
happy to do that. And you know, to be quite honest,
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he shouldn't be. He should be paid ten times that
amount to what he's done for Philadelphia in their offense.
Right in a situation where he won them a couple
of games while guys were hurt, and he's been the
focal point of that offense. He needs to go back.
You know, if it's me and I'm I'm glad I'm
not his agent, because we'd be going back to the table, Sir.
I'd be knocking on the door, like we need a
couple a little bit more of this pie that you
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got going around here, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Maurice Jones drew NFL Network and List. I don't know
if Kirk Cousins is your friend, but I have to
ask you, is it time to bench Kirk cousins in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Okay, so this is the thing. I we had this conversation.
I do a show every Monday for the people in
the UK and Ireland for NFL, and it's we do
a Monday night show and we talk about it. Like,
Kurt is a great guy. He's great in the locker room,
but you can't continue to turn the ball over at
the rate he turned the ball over. And to me,
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I believe, look, if you want if you're fighting for
this spot and you want to win it, maybe you
feel like, hey, Michael Pennix, is are ready yet? Or
I gotta go see that. I can't sit back and
have this guy and ow throw a touchdown for what
four or five weeks, continue to lose games that are
winnable games and put us in a position where where
we're not playing well. Now, he does do a great
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job off of play action pass, but they've been in
some drop back pass and situations where he's just made
bad decisions. And to be quite frank with you, I
don't know he's still hurt or if Father Thomas caught
up to him, But sometimes when he throws the football,
it doesn't seem like he had a lot of that
pizazz that he had on it when he was in Minnesota,
and so for me, I just think it's time to
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see what we have. And I know they're in the race,
and I know they're still winning, and I love Raheem Morris,
so I'm gonna believe and trusted him. But if I
was the coach, I would have pulled Kirk a while
ago and saw the young guy was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What's the difference with Josh Allen this year as opposed
to maybe the last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, okay, So first and foremost, I think he's just
playing with the confidence and understanding of this offense, and
it must be the same offense. Uh. You know, obviously
Joe bradyer in their connection, but Watson him versus the Rams.
So you gotta remember this is again I worked. You said,
I worked for the Rams, big Rams fan. That's why
I said, no slander for the Rams, Jags, Raiders, we
(25:56):
refuse that. And the Titans because my guy Brian Callahan
and Nick Holts. But I saw Sakuon Barkley versus the Rams,
and I was like, this is the best player I've
ever seen football, And my god, like this is crazy,
you know, then double back a couple of weeks later,
the next week or something crazy like that. Here comes
Josh Allen and I was like, no, this is the
(26:16):
best player ever. Right. He was throwing the ball. He's
had a couple throws. If they were arrows, they would
have killed some of those receivers away. He just hit
him square in the chest like he was putting the
ball in positions. The Rams defenders were in great position,
and he was the throw to Mac Hollins for a touchdown,
a couple of throws to Mary Cooper, and then his
ability to take off and run and he's he's again,
(26:38):
you're bigger, he's your biggest runner, right, so he the
goal line opportunities. Then you see the way he's running
and taking the time, Well, he picks his spots when
he wants to be superman. If that makes sense, I
think that's what that's what's the difference we've seen between
Josh Allen now and Josh Allen before. He always wanted
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to be superman, always want to make the throws, always
want to do all these things. Now he allows the
game to come to them, meaning they're going to run
the football. He's not gonna take chances. And then they
have play calls where they probably talked to him throughout
the week like all right, this is where you could
be Superman if you need to be. These are the
moments where we need you to be Superman. We need
you to run the ball here, We need you to
extend the play and throw the ball down the field
(27:19):
here on this third down, Like there must be a
code word that they tell him where he turns from
you know, park in to Superman. And he goes out
and does it. And again a guy like like I said,
like he's clearly right now. You know, obviously I'm a
running back enthusiast and I love RBS and I'm all over.
But what he's done the last couple of weeks scoring
(27:40):
forty points in back to back games against defenses that
have played really well throughout this season. And I mean,
what's that? Who had forty eight that last week? He
has forty two the week before, whatever it might have been,
Like like my goodness, And so to me, he's just
he's really learning his when the moment is for him
him to go out and show what he can do.
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But he's relying on his teammates and that's that's what's
great to see.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Great to talk to you as always. Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Oh always, Well we'll get going. Look listen, I'm gonna
be honest with you. I had youth football, I had
high school football. Uh we lost the state championship game
to the number one team in the country. I'm still
haven't moved out of my bed in three days.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Did you did you cry?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I don't cry, just I just you know, replay the
game over and over and over again. But our kids
played really well. We just we did. We had some
opportunities we didn't take advantage of. And so I watched
the tape. I'm sitting here. I mean I I silent cried,
which means I didn't like boohoo, but like a couple
of tears dropped, because you know, just losing. Losing is hard,
(28:45):
but you can learn from losing. And I'm learning that
I'm a terrible loser. And I'm again we're going back
to the drawing board. We're ready to go see the
kids in a couple of weeks. You know, is Uh
going to do Christmas? He's gonna get Christmas this year.
Sanna doesn't come to losers houses. You know what I'm saying.
But the kids already know, like Sena doesn't come. He
doesn't like that. He loves winners. So we gotta, we
(29:07):
gotta read, We gotta figure this thing back out again.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Is your son being recruited?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
He is, He is being a recruit. He has offers
by call in Utah right now, has a couple other
schools talking to him. So uh, he's a sophomore, but
he had a he had a really good sophomore year.
And we're getting ready for our junior year here. Like
I said, back back to it. No Christmas this year.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Good to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Good to talk to you as well.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you, Mojo. That's Maurice Jones Drew. He has the
most rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns of
any NFL player five seven or shorter.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's something.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Stead of the day.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Here comes that one stat of the day. Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I have to hang your hat on. Yeah you have
to reach a little higher to hang the hat on,
but you gotta hang out well.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Does Muggsy Bogues have the best stats of any player
five foot five and under in NBA?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
History.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Likely.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, I gotta google Earl Boykins. Oh ooh, Earl.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Muggsy was pretty Muggy was a starter in the league.
Muggsy was pretty good. Yeah, Paul, If.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
We did greatest American sports athlete under five to ten,
because you can't go international because then Messi ruins the
whole thing for everybody, that would be a fun topic.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The best American athlete five ten or shorter? Where are
we going? Because that's that's the cutoff.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Is it under five to ten or five to ten
in under your call?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Who That's when guys will lie about their height. That's
when they'll go, hey, I'm not five five ten and
a half. I'm actually five nine and three quarters. Is
Jack Nicholas five ten or under? I think he might.
(31:08):
Now he's probably listed in the program at five to ten,
but when I met Jack, he wasn't five to ten.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Yes, Paul, you know old school basketball, Calvin Murphy, the
NBA guard, Yeah, he was great Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, he's clearly under five times, I think, Yeah, I think, uh,
five to nine. Uh, can we check and see what
Jack Nicholas, Barry Sanders, Barry Sanders, Oh boy, pretty great.
He was five to nine.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let me see if we can get Jack Nicholas's right there, Todd,
are you googling right now?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I was texting a upcoming guess something.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Oh okay, yes, yes, Marph, it says Jack Nicholas is
listed at five to ten.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, so he's really five to nine.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well no, I don't think he's five to ten, but
he's barely five bear go barely?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Okay, I respect that one.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thank you, Todd. Uh who else would be under five?
Five to ten and under? I think you have to
do five ten. There's a lot of people who listed
at five to ten, five to ten are under. All right,
let me take a break, uh, Michael Vick and a
couple of college jobs. We'll talk about that. More phone
(32:25):
calls as well.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
Once again, no bad ideas when it comes to helping.
I don't want to say fix the NBA. Help the NBA.
That's all just being open minded, sort of like baseball's
been the last couple of years. Me just try some things,
throw them out there. See if they were. I think
the NBA needs some help making it a little bit
more enjoyable. Tune in factor.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Ratings a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yes, morph the NBA should go with the elm ending.
They had it in the All Star Game a couple
of years, where there's a target score. Yeah, where it
always ends on a made basket, almost like pick up basketball. Yeah,
instead of oh, they run the clock out, somebody's you know,
winning by fifty points or thirty points or whatever. It's
always going to be a tight game and you're always
playing to win.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, it's drastic, but it was interesting. There was a
curiosity factor there. Once again, no bad ideas. Speaking of
which Michael Vick maybe two coaching opportunities good idea, bad idea.
I don't know how much coaching experience he has. One
(33:44):
is Norfolk State. Now, he was obviously very big time
athlete in Newport News, Virginia that area and Sacramento State.
Sack State wants to get into the PAC twelve and
they've been a successful smaller school what is that FBS
(34:06):
FBS FBS, and you know they want to up the ante.
They want to get into the PAC twelve, you know,
the new and improved PAC twelve and Michael Vick. I
don't know if there's any ties to Michael Vick with Sacramentum.
We certainly know with Norfolk, but I could see that happening.
I could see, and you're starting to see this. You know,
(34:26):
Eddie George is coaching in college d and of course
took a college job. Ed Reid almost took a college job.
And these are smaller schools, historically black colleges and universities
giving them an opportunity. But Norfolk State with Michael Vick,
I don't know, you know, what is any coaching experience?
(34:49):
Maybe high school, but I don't know. But see everybody,
everybody wants to get to get the Dean Sanders effect.
That's what North Carolina is hoping for. Bill Belichick, you
got your Dion. Well, no, there's only one don You
can have Eddie George. Eddie George a wonderful guy, not
Dion ed Reid, He not Dia. Michael Vick not Dion.
(35:13):
You got to have personality, and he has more than enough.
But he has been in our world, in our life
for thirty years. We've seen prime, We've seen all of
this good, bad, great took the job at Jackson State.
Everybody's like, what what are you doing there? He was
(35:35):
just there just to get people's attention, and then Florida
State didn't hire him. Travis Hunter was going to go
to Florida State. Dion's like, Hey, I'm bringing my boys,
and uh, why don't you come with me?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're going to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And I think even Travis Hunter's like, damn, it's cold there,
and Shador's like, oh no, we'll heat it up. End
up winning the Heisman. They had a great year, almost
qualified for the college football playoffs. But if you think
you're getting Dion Sanders, think again. In one guy, that's it.
But if I'm Sacramento State, all right, you got people's
(36:11):
attention with Mike Norfolk, I get that one, just you know, geographically,
but trying to get a coach that kids are going
to want to play for that they know who he is,
and you know, Mike's Mike's kind of reserved. He's shy
almost now. He wasn't when he was on the field.
(36:32):
That was his personality. If you're recruiting, like this is
what this is? The knock on Belichick? Can he relate
to these players, his personality, how's that going to come across.
I don't know how Michael Vick will be in the
room with you know, these parents zoom calls. Kids want
to be a dual threat, you know, a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What Norfolk State football program has been like the last
ten year, five years. I know Sacramento State has played
playoff games FBS.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yes, Marvin does every single college college coach need to
be charismatic.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I think if you're trying to get Dion effect, then like,
if I'm hiring you, what am I hiring you to do? Like,
I need you to go in there and you're the face,
So be in the face. You've got to be out
in front. You got to be recruiting. You got to
you know, when you're at the press conference, when you're
being interviewed, you're there all the time. You're you're out front.
(37:33):
And this is what Belichick's going to have to do.
Hey we need you go to the basketball game. Hey
you know we got booster meeting here. Hey we have this,
we have that. We that's what college is now. You
can delegate to a certain degree, but if you're going
to be that focal point, that figurehead. We want to
see you. Then it comes down to I know Belichick
can coach. Belichick gives you an advantage over every coach
(37:56):
in America because he's a better coach than any coach
in America. So you always have an advantage going into
a game. I don't know. Now Michael Vick was a
player coach, then might be a little more interesting for me.
But good if he gets an opportunity. And look, I've
spent time with Mike. I've mentioned this before. You know,
(38:20):
we know what he did with dog fighting. Everybody knows
that he went to prison. He paid a price. He
went to a hardcore prison, and when he got out,
Tony Dungee took him under his wing and said, look,
I want to help you. And one of the things
he did, he said, I want you to go and
talk to these kids at a prison outside of Tampa.
(38:41):
And Tony asked me, Tony had done me a favor,
and he said, I want you to do me a favor.
I want you to come down here with me with Mike.
And I got to see Mike in a prison yard
and I'm guessing ninety five percent were African American and
probably ninety five percent were under twenty five years of age,
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but they listened to it. When he spoke, they listened
and he went around. There were even there were guys
who were in their jail cells who weren't allowed out
in the yard that you know, they had done something
where they were on lockdown. Mike went in and walked
around and talked to everybody who was there in their
jail cell through the through the bars and spoke to them.
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And you could see the reaction from these kids. And
they were kids twenty five and under, it felt like.
And Tony Dungee wanted wanted Michael to kind of share
his experience he had been in prison, and I, I,
you know, I do root for him. I like, Mike,
did he make a terrible mistake?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yes he did.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I went to dinner with him with Tony Dungee one
night in Tampa, and uh, you know, he was very reserve,
very quiet, and probably not trusting of me because I
was a member of the media. But you know I
could I could tell where he just looked around the
whole night. We were in a booth and uh, I
think it was Lee Roy Selman's restaurant and he just
(40:15):
looking around constantly because people would walk by and he
didn't know how they were going to react to him.
But I mean we've had him on subsequently and we've
talked football, and you know, he he knows what happened,
and you know, he could even have a dog and
want to have a dog for his kids, and you know,
so there's a lot tied up in all of that,
and I don't know, it sounds like, you know, these
(40:37):
universities may be past that and giving him an opportunity
to coach. So maybe he can walk in and you know,
he doesn't have the same impact that Dion had, but
nobody does. But maybe they'll listen to him. Maybe you
can recruit, maybe he can build something there at Norfolk
State or Sacramento State.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yes, Mark, because maybe sometimes the name is enough if
you're a quarterback and you're the parents, So the parents
might be more geek to meet Michael Vick than It's
almost like the Deon Sanders thing, like they don't know
Diana as a player, but their parents love them. So
if my kid was twenty and Michael Vick walked in,
I'd be super excited, no matter how charismatic. He might
or might not be. Just the name alone rings bells
(41:19):
to where. You know what, Let's give Sacramento State a shot.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, maybe maybe yeah, Pull.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I'm reading the Sacramento b this morning and the reporter
said it's premature say Michael Vick as the next coach.
They're talking to a number of coaches and his name
leaked out.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, the Norfolk State thing, that's real, and I get
that Final Hour on the way. Catch up with Greg Olsen,
NFL on Fox Analyst. More of your phone calls as well.
Eight seven to seven three DP Show email address DPA
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Danets,
Dan Patrick show Down to Danette seating off for the day.
Fritzie's here, Marvin's here, paul E yours truly, and the
back room guy. Stat of the day brought to you,
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the program. Our favorite Maurice Jones Drew, former NFL running back,
works for NFL Network. He'll recap what we saw last night,
(00:28):
how dangerous are the Minnesota Vikings, and what would he
do with Sam Darnold moving forward with that contract.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, thank you
for downloading the app. Our radio affiliates as well. Pull question.
We had it in hour one. We're going to keep
it for hour two. Todd, give the wording on that.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Which NFL franchise feels like it is in the worst shape. Giants, Browns, Raiders, Bears, Panthers, Jags, Titans, or.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
If you're so inclined to other and we have some
early results that.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You're interested, Okay, I am interested the Giants. How about
we guess?
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Okay, Marvin's are not the first place, Marvin. Maybe they
are the Titans.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, Paul, after last night the Bears, I'm gonna say
the Giants.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We've got twenty seven and a half percent. Say Giants,
twenty four percent, Browns, followed by Raiders, Bears, Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't think the Bears are in a bad situation.
I think they've had a bad situation with the head coach.
You've gotta have stability. If you have a rookie quarterback,
you've got to have the same coach, offensive coordinator, head coach,
and maybe you get that, you know, stability. This is
a franchise that passed on Tom Brady late in Tom's career,
(01:49):
and they passed on Jim Harbaugh. They don't make good
decisions normally, and now you have the future of Caleb
Williams at your fingertips. You got to make sure you
make the right decision here. They passed on Bill Belichick.
Are they getting Ben Johnson from the Lions? And is
(02:09):
that enough to change the culture of the Chicago Bears.
We'll talk to Mojo and Greg Olsen NFL and Fox
will stop by as well. Vikings handle the Bears. Bears
have lost eight in a row, thirty to twelve. The
final Vikings now twelve and two. Bears dropped to four
and ten. Falcons beat the Raiders. Falcons are seven and seven.
(02:34):
That didn't feel like a win. And once again with
Kirk Cousins, he is not done well. He's got one
touchdown pass nine picks in the last five games. The
Raiders dropped to two and twelve. See, I thought that
was going to be a game the Raiders would win
and then screw things up. Because if you're the Raiders,
if you're Mark Davis, the owner, you want to make
(02:55):
sure that you get the number one pick in the draft,
worst case scenario, maybe the second.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Pick, and there you got to get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You can get shudor Sanders or cam Ward if they
graded out and they you know, it feels like that's
who you want, or you get Travis Hunter. But I
look at the Raiders and Max Crosby will be back.
I don't know if Antonio Pierce will be back. It
feels like I have no information on this, but getting
(03:24):
that number one pick maybe attracts more attention with coaching
candidates there, did you leave your microphone on Marvin? I?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Sure did.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Preach.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I like that, go all your bad self, like when
you're in a movie theater and there's something that's getting
ready bad gonna happen, and then you start to say something.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
It definitely felt very churchy. Oh okay from my part
growing up in the church preaching. Sorry did you sing
in the church choir?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:03):
And the children's choir, oh you did? Yeah, my Zion
Baptist Church children's choir. Okay, from about eight to eleven. Okay,
that's how long church service.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Was, from eight in the morning until eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, I needed a pitch clock in church, you know.
I needed them to speed it up a little bit there,
because it used to be like an hour when you
go for a Catholic Mass, and then all of a sudden,
it's like, uh, we we cut short some things here,
speed up some things here. You want to get more
people to go to church, make it thirty five minutes?
(04:37):
And why why was my family always late to church?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, granted my mom had to get six kids together,
throw all of us in a station wagon, but even
now when my wife goes to church, we're late because
you go you wait till the last minute to get
out there the door when it goes to church, at
least in my family, it's like, let me see, it's
gonna take seven minutes to get there. Let's leave and
(05:08):
uh six and a half minutes. Nick can't find parking.
Then you walk in because my wife's always.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Like, oh god, I walk in late.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Then you got a walk and there's bad seats.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And it's like, it's okay, all right, I'd rather sit
in the choir all the way up where the organ is.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Yes, Paul, and the families that walk in late, the
door creaks open and breaks the silence, and everyone does
the judgmental turnback look to the late family. It's not
that important to that, but not that important. And then
you have to like, like you're breaking into a building,
you tiptoe to your seat, excuse.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Or you leave right after communion?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Oo.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That was That was a great move by me, although
I have to admit, well, I did admit finally too
my you know what I didn't admit my my brothers
and sisters they ratted me out. I used to drop
them off for church, and I would carry a pair
of con and put them in the trunk so I'd
drop them off and I would have my younger brother,
(06:05):
my two younger sisters, and I'd drop them off and
I'd say, hey, get me, you know a leaflet, give
me the the pamphlin.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yes, yes, I'd go shoot basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And then I'd so I'd get my put my cons on,
and then I would go shoot, and then I'd come
back and pick them up, and then we go home.
And you know, I had proof. And then they finally
ratted me out. They said, you know, Dan doesn't go
to church. And my mom was like, Danny, I go,
what Dave says that you don't go to church. I go,
(06:43):
I go to church. I don't go into church. Although
there was a two year window, I pulled off one
of the great ones. I said to my mom Notre
Dame football re air Sunday morning, Lindsey Nelson and Paul Horning.
You got to watch a truncated you know, they would
(07:03):
cut down the Notre Dame game.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And I said to my mom, I said, Mom, it's
kind of like church. It's Notre Dame football. And my
mom let me get away with that for two years, and.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Then all of a sudden, my brother and then my
sisters and then everybody became a Notre Dame fan, and
then that ruined it. So then I had to go
back going to church. I had to go to church
every single morning when I was growing up. Every day
it's Saturday, get dressed up, going there, little guy sit there.
I had no idea what was going on. I just
(07:37):
knew that I was already in trouble. I already had
a sin, and the original sin. And I said to
my mom what did I do? And she said, you
didn't do anything. I said, I got a sin. I
can't even get rid of it. I can't even go
to confession. And then she goes, don't worry about it.
It's a really minor sin. I said, I didn't do anything,
(07:58):
and she said, you'll get a chance to get rid
of it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yes, Tom, how long did you get away with playing basketball?
And what made them finally decide this is bull? I'm
gonna we're gonna rat Dan out. There's no way he
can get away with this.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't know why they turned on me, but you know,
snitches get stitches, and you know, I take matters into
my own hands.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
With my younger brother. He said, you do it again. No,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's you know siblings, they're gonna turn on you can't
trust him even now, turn on me now? Yes, I
think the eighth commandment is thou shalt not nark? Isn't
it checking my notes? I was an altar boy.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think it's thou shalt not shoot hoops?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because my mom goes, don't you want to be closer
to God and be an altar boy? And I go, no, No, Mom,
I gotta make jumpers like I'm gonna I'm gonna make
it rain.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm gonna buy you a house, all right. Maybe I'll
get you a dishwasher, yes.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Martin, Yeah, be in all states way more more.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think Pete Merrivis said that if you if you
said heaven or being all state All state, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, careful, third team all state. Yeah, wait, he's
got to be first team. No, I wasn't first team.
That's third team. That's all right, I'll take it. I'll
take it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Maybe a shooting contest with me and steven A. Maybe
maybe set that up there, Fritzie, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Good, look into that. That sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I might worry about Van Peasey more than I would
steven A. I think I played one pickup game with
van Pelt.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
From the free throw line.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think he's probably got some nice for him, you know, shooter.
All right, dang, I got sidetracked there.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
June in Virginia beach, Hi June, thanks for holding what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Good morning, Dan and Danetts. I call you every year
around this I'm Today is my son, Marty's forty third birthday,
and he just celebrated seven years of beating als. It
has taken his body, but it's not taken his spirit,
or his intelligence or his sense of humor. And Marty
(10:19):
was almost born with a love of sports. He learned
to read when he was three years old because he
wanted to read the sports page and read about his
football teams. And he picked the Detroit Lions when he
was three years old as his team. So there have
been a lot of lean years, but he's stuck with them.
Barry Sanders is his all time favorite athlete. And I
(10:45):
just like every year for you guys to sing happy
birthday to him and give him a little lift. And
I know that I'm going to be calling you until
you retire every year for Marty's birthday because he's convinced
that he has the Stephen Hawking kind of als it's
gonna take his body, but it's figured out it's not
(11:08):
going to kill him, so it's going to leave him alone.
So looking forward to a long life.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, June, you might have to call me when I
retire from this just so we can say and sing
the following Happy birthday, June.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Thank you very much. Yes, I love you well, we
love you too.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Thank you very very nice that you call in and
Uh June and Virginia Beach Uh, Andrew and Washington, Hi Andrew.
Speaker 10 (11:46):
Good morning, Dan Denne's thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Have to follow that up.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
Happy birthday, Marty. I now want the Lions to win
the Super Bowl this year, just for Marty.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Seriously.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
On another note, there's no bad ideas about the NBA.
How about every place on the active roster on the
bench has to play sometime. You bring it back to
you know, when you were in grade school and everybody
got a rotation, So maybe that's an option that.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Everybody has to play.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
But Dan, I did call because I'm going to join
the surgery, the shoulder surgery group tomorrow, and I wanted
to see how yours was going, what your recovery is like.
What your PT was and how you are today.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Everything's good. I do PT a couple of times a
week here in the.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Man Cave and making great progress there, So good luck
with that. Andrew shoulders, they don't have it down yet.
It's hips they do knees pretty good shoulders. That feels
like an inexact science just from my own personal surgeries
(12:48):
that I've had. But once again, minor surgery is when
it's on someone else. Whenever they put you under, it's
not minor surgery. Just say, let me see Rick and
grand Rapids. Hi Rick, Uh, first one line line one,
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Marv Hey Rick or Rodney?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
This is Rod Hey, rod how's it going good? What's
on your mind?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Good? Good?
Speaker 11 (13:22):
Hey, first time caller, long, long time listener. Appreciate what
you guys do. Uh, No bad ideas for the NBA.
Since I'm in the heartland of NBA in Northwest Iowa here,
how about we just make everything a three pointer except
for inside the box.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I don't want more three pointers.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But once again, no bad ideas. I don't know if
they do something with the court, I don't. And once again,
we talked about this at LinkedIn the first hour Baseball's trying,
but baseball needed to try. The NBA has had, you know,
a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Baseball's had.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Baseball had a great year this year, and there are
things to build on the gold net bat.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Do I like it?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, that doesn't mean that I would reject it. I'd
like to see it if you did it in spring training.
I mean that's how it started with the pitch count, Like,
let's just see it before you go.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
If I would have said a red, white and blue
basketball and a three point shot back when the ABA
came into business, you'd be like, what yeh makey?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's silly.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
A lot of the stuff that was going on in
the ABA, the NBA adopted, the NFL has adopted, Like
you have to adapt or you get steamrolled. And you're
going against this behemoth in the NFL. Now they're going
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to play games on Christmas Day. That was the NBA's
coming out party. They don't care. They want to eat
everything in front of them, the gambling, everything, and baseball
and basketball trying to keep up having gambling. It it's
it's nothing compared to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yes, Dodd, what if you miss a three and they
subtract three points from your score. That'll kind of reduce
the number three points, especially the ones that aren't very
good at taken them.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
What you just do?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We were up seventy one sixty three and out sixty
eight sixty three.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
There's no bad ideas to lose three points when you missed.
There is no bad ideas today.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
None.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right, we'll take a break. Maurice Jones Drew will
join us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Last game, which team feels the most hopeless right now?
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
Over the last three games, the Bears have been outscored
fifty three to nothing in the first half. Chicago's the
first team to have three consecutive scoreless first halfs since
the twenty eighteen Jacksonville Jaguars. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
How stead of a day.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
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This is the start of the day.
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Stout of the day, brought to you by Panini America.
Here's some advice for Bears fans. Don't watch the first half,
just wait around and watch the second half might be
a little more enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
He is Maurice Jones.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Drew, NFL network analyst, RAMS Radio color analyst, and former
NFL running back. Good to see you again, Good to
have you on the program. How threatening are the Vikings?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Mojo well first and foremost, Dan, great to be back. Second.
No Jaguars lander will be allowed while I'm on here.
No more Jaguars slander. We've had enough.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Okay, okay, we've had enough.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Stat of the day, you know, unless it's positive, we
don't want to talk anything negative about the Jags, all right.
Stat of the day was a little That was a
little tough for me to hear you say that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, I've learned my lesson. I'll try to be nice.
Let me see if I can find something nicer. How
about when I was gonna say.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
It's okay, we can move on, you know, you know,
Jags near and dear to our hearts here and the
Jones Drew household. Been a tough season, but we can
move forward.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I didn't have this one.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Raiders have trailed by double digits, in all fourteen
games this season.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't help either. That doesn't help.
But we're going the wrong way. Let's talk about the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, how threatening are the Vikings to me?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I think the Vikings when Sam Darnold is and the
way he's playing, they can beat anyone, especially in the
in the NFC North. Now with Detroit going through all
those injuries, and I know Dan Campbell's fired up about
the the challenge that will be for his team, But
in the NFL, it's it's about the Krim, Dela Krim.
It's about the talent that you have on that roster,
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and miss is so many guys that they have right
now on defense, David Montgomery out for this season. That's
gonna be tough to overcome.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I'm not saying they can't do it, but the way
the Vikings are playing, they're my favor right now to
win the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What would you do with Sam Darnold's contract moving forward?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I would I would actually sign Sam to a two
to three year deal, continue to let JJ McCarthy sit
and learn, very similar to what kind of the Packers
do with Jordan Love. If Sam can continue to play
this way, I think the Vikings have a great chance
to continue to build a roster with him and then
obviously move on from him in a year two years,
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and then put J. J. McCarthy in there, and you're
reading a role you got to you had a winner.
So to me, I think they put themselves in a
position out Let me be honest. I wasn't a believer
in Sam Darnold. I don't think many were because of
what he did in New York, and I know he
played better in Carolina. I know he sat with the Niners,
but what we saw from him as a full starter
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in New York was tough to watch, right, a lot
of turnovers, a lot of mistakes being made. But kudos
to him for working on himself, working on his game
and going into Minnesota into a situation where you have
a lot of weapons around you, and he's really taken
advantage of this opportunity. So to me, he's earned the
right to play again next year, especially being what where
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they're twelve and two right now and and you have
a chance to win the North. To me, that's a
huge accomplishment for not only does the Vikings organization, but
for Sam himself.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Pristine give mojo.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The poll question question is which NFL franchise feels like
it is in the worst shape? Bears, Giants, Anthers, Raiders, Browns, Jaguars, Titans.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
What in that group who's in the worst shape moving forward?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You know, again, I told you no Jaguars slander, so
you didn't have to put them in there. Also, Brian
Callahan is a great friend of mine. No Titan slander.
I feel like that franchise is on the rise, that
they have a good defense, they're rolling. To me, it
has to be the Giants, and the reason being is
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you let go of I want to say two or
three players in free agency that are playing well for
the McKinney in Green Bay, obviously Saquon and Philly, And
I want to say there was another player that's actually
playing really well that they let go of free agency.
You just can't let talent hit free agency and not
bring them back. You just can't do that. And a
lot of that was because they paid Daniel Jones a
(21:58):
ton of money. Now you let you, you let go right,
And now you're sitting there in disarray trying to figure
out what's going on. Another tough season for them and
what makes it worse for me is that they did
the off season hard knocks and the way they were
talking about their players right, and that to me just is.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Now, Yes, the Browns have a tough situation. I think
all those teams are in pretty volatile situations. But to me,
the Giants just how it went about it, what it
looked like from the outside, and then getting a peak
on the inside it looked exactly what we thought it
was going to look like, and then the season you
have it just doesn't work well for me.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, I was really surprised that they allowed those behind
the scenes phone calls and you have the you know,
the GM talking to Saquon Barkley, and it just it
was embarrassing because I mean, not having you know, read
the room, understand what you're saying. You're saying it on
TV cameras and you're basically saying this one Barkley, Yeah,
(23:01):
go ahead and see if somebody likes you. But you know,
come back to us and let us know. Man, I'd
be out the door be like nope, I'm not going
to look back on this.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Well, yeah, shout out to the scout too, or the
one of the personnel people were like, are you sure
you want to do this? Right? He was there to
make sure, like are you sure you want to let
saquad walk? And they were kind of like, yeah, oh yeah,
We're not going to pay a quarterback forty million dollars
to turn around and hand off to a thirteen million
dollar back, Like, well, guess what. Philly is more than
happy to do that. And you know, to be quite honest,
(23:34):
he shouldn't be. He should be paid ten times that
amount to what he's done for Philadelphia in their offense.
Right in a situation where he won them a couple
of games while guys were hurt, and he's been the
focal point of that offense. He needs to go back.
You know, if it's me and I'm I'm glad I'm
not his agent, because we'd be going back to the table, Sir.
I'd be knocking on the door, like we need a
couple a little bit more of this pie that you
(23:55):
got going around here, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Maurice Jones drew NFL Network and List. I don't know
if Kirk Cousins is your friend, but I have to
ask you, is it time to bench Kirk cousins in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Okay, so this is the thing. I we had this conversation.
I do a show every Monday for the people in
the UK and Ireland for NFL, and it's we do
a Monday night show and we talk about it. Like,
Kurt is a great guy. He's great in the locker room,
but you can't continue to turn the ball over at
the rate he turned the ball over. And to me,
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I believe, look, if you want if you're fighting for
this spot and you want to win it, maybe you
feel like, hey, Michael Pennix, is are ready yet? Or
I gotta go see that. I can't sit back and
have this guy and ow throw a touchdown for what
four or five weeks, continue to lose games that are
winnable games and put us in a position where where
we're not playing well. Now, he does do a great
(24:50):
job off of play action pass, but they've been in
some drop back pass and situations where he's just made
bad decisions. And to be quite frank with you, I
don't know he's still hurt or if Father Thomas caught
up to him, But sometimes when he throws the football,
it doesn't seem like he had a lot of that
pizazz that he had on it when he was in Minnesota,
and so for me, I just think it's time to
(25:15):
see what we have. And I know they're in the race,
and I know they're still winning, and I love Raheem Morris,
so I'm gonna believe and trusted him. But if I
was the coach, I would have pulled Kirk a while
ago and saw the young guy was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What's the difference with Josh Allen this year as opposed
to maybe the last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, okay, So first and foremost, I think he's just
playing with the confidence and understanding of this offense, and
it must be the same offense. Uh. You know, obviously
Joe bradyer in their connection, but Watson him versus the Rams.
So you gotta remember this is again I worked. You said,
I worked for the Rams, big Rams fan. That's why
I said, no slander for the Rams, Jags, Raiders, we
(25:56):
refuse that. And the Titans because my guy Brian Callahan
and Nick Holts. But I saw Sakuon Barkley versus the Rams,
and I was like, this is the best player I've
ever seen football, And my god, like this is crazy,
you know, then double back a couple of weeks later,
the next week or something crazy like that. Here comes
Josh Allen and I was like, no, this is the
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best player ever. Right. He was throwing the ball. He's
had a couple throws. If they were arrows, they would
have killed some of those receivers away. He just hit
him square in the chest like he was putting the
ball in positions. The Rams defenders were in great position,
and he was the throw to Mac Hollins for a touchdown,
a couple of throws to Mary Cooper, and then his
ability to take off and run and he's he's again,
(26:38):
you're bigger, he's your biggest runner, right, so he the
goal line opportunities. Then you see the way he's running
and taking the time, Well, he picks his spots when
he wants to be superman. If that makes sense, I
think that's what that's what's the difference we've seen between
Josh Allen now and Josh Allen before. He always wanted
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to be superman, always want to make the throws, always
want to do all these things. Now he allows the
game to come to them, meaning they're going to run
the football. He's not gonna take chances. And then they
have play calls where they probably talked to him throughout
the week like all right, this is where you could
be Superman if you need to be. These are the
moments where we need you to be Superman. We need
you to run the ball here, We need you to
extend the play and throw the ball down the field
(27:19):
here on this third down, Like there must be a
code word that they tell him where he turns from
you know, park in to Superman. And he goes out
and does it. And again a guy like like I said,
like he's clearly right now. You know, obviously I'm a
running back enthusiast and I love RBS and I'm all over.
But what he's done the last couple of weeks scoring
(27:40):
forty points in back to back games against defenses that
have played really well throughout this season. And I mean,
what's that? Who had forty eight that last week? He
has forty two the week before, whatever it might have been,
Like like my goodness, And so to me, he's just
he's really learning his when the moment is for him
him to go out and show what he can do.
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But he's relying on his teammates and that's that's what's
great to see.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Great to talk to you as always. Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Oh always, Well we'll get going. Look listen, I'm gonna
be honest with you. I had youth football, I had
high school football. Uh we lost the state championship game
to the number one team in the country. I'm still
haven't moved out of my bed in three days.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Did you did you cry?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I don't cry, just I just you know, replay the
game over and over and over again. But our kids
played really well. We just we did. We had some
opportunities we didn't take advantage of. And so I watched
the tape. I'm sitting here. I mean I I silent cried,
which means I didn't like boohoo, but like a couple
of tears dropped, because you know, just losing. Losing is hard,
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but you can learn from losing. And I'm learning that
I'm a terrible loser. And I'm again we're going back
to the drawing board. We're ready to go see the
kids in a couple of weeks. You know, is Uh
going to do Christmas? He's gonna get Christmas this year.
Sanna doesn't come to losers houses. You know what I'm saying.
But the kids already know, like Sena doesn't come. He
doesn't like that. He loves winners. So we gotta, we
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gotta read, We gotta figure this thing back out again.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Is your son being recruited?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
He is, He is being a recruit. He has offers
by call in Utah right now, has a couple other
schools talking to him. So uh, he's a sophomore, but
he had a he had a really good sophomore year.
And we're getting ready for our junior year here. Like
I said, back back to it. No Christmas this year.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Good to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Good to talk to you as well.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you, Mojo. That's Maurice Jones Drew. He has the
most rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns of
any NFL player five seven or shorter.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's something.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Stead of the day.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Here comes that one stat of the day. Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I have to hang your hat on. Yeah you have
to reach a little higher to hang the hat on,
but you gotta hang out well.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Does Muggsy Bogues have the best stats of any player
five foot five and under in NBA?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
History.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Likely.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, I gotta google Earl Boykins. Oh ooh, Earl.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Muggsy was pretty Muggy was a starter in the league.
Muggsy was pretty good. Yeah, Paul, If.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
We did greatest American sports athlete under five to ten,
because you can't go international because then Messi ruins the
whole thing for everybody, that would be a fun topic.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The best American athlete five ten or shorter? Where are
we going? Because that's that's the cutoff.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Is it under five to ten or five to ten
in under your call?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Who That's when guys will lie about their height. That's
when they'll go, hey, I'm not five five ten and
a half. I'm actually five nine and three quarters. Is
Jack Nicholas five ten or under? I think he might.
(31:08):
Now he's probably listed in the program at five to ten,
but when I met Jack, he wasn't five to ten.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Yes, Paul, you know old school basketball, Calvin Murphy, the
NBA guard, Yeah, he was great Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, he's clearly under five times, I think, Yeah, I think, uh,
five to nine. Uh, can we check and see what
Jack Nicholas, Barry Sanders, Barry Sanders, Oh boy, pretty great.
He was five to nine.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let me see if we can get Jack Nicholas's right there, Todd,
are you googling right now?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I was texting a upcoming guess something.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Oh okay, yes, yes, Marph, it says Jack Nicholas is
listed at five to ten.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, so he's really five to nine.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well no, I don't think he's five to ten, but
he's barely five bear go barely?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Okay, I respect that one.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thank you, Todd. Uh who else would be under five?
Five to ten and under? I think you have to
do five ten. There's a lot of people who listed
at five to ten, five to ten are under. All right,
let me take a break, uh, Michael Vick and a
couple of college jobs. We'll talk about that. More phone
(32:25):
calls as well.
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
Once again, no bad ideas when it comes to helping.
I don't want to say fix the NBA. Help the NBA.
That's all just being open minded, sort of like baseball's
been the last couple of years. Me just try some things,
throw them out there. See if they were. I think
the NBA needs some help making it a little bit
more enjoyable. Tune in factor.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Ratings a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yes, morph the NBA should go with the elm ending.
They had it in the All Star Game a couple
of years, where there's a target score. Yeah, where it
always ends on a made basket, almost like pick up basketball. Yeah,
instead of oh, they run the clock out, somebody's you know,
winning by fifty points or thirty points or whatever. It's
always going to be a tight game and you're always
playing to win.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, it's drastic, but it was interesting. There was a
curiosity factor there. Once again, no bad ideas. Speaking of
which Michael Vick maybe two coaching opportunities good idea, bad idea.
I don't know how much coaching experience he has. One
(33:44):
is Norfolk State. Now, he was obviously very big time
athlete in Newport News, Virginia that area and Sacramento State.
Sack State wants to get into the PAC twelve and
they've been a successful smaller school what is that FBS
(34:06):
FBS FBS, and you know they want to up the ante.
They want to get into the PAC twelve, you know,
the new and improved PAC twelve and Michael Vick. I
don't know if there's any ties to Michael Vick with Sacramentum.
We certainly know with Norfolk, but I could see that happening.
I could see, and you're starting to see this. You know,
(34:26):
Eddie George is coaching in college d and of course
took a college job. Ed Reid almost took a college job.
And these are smaller schools, historically black colleges and universities
giving them an opportunity. But Norfolk State with Michael Vick,
I don't know, you know, what is any coaching experience?
(34:49):
Maybe high school, but I don't know. But see everybody,
everybody wants to get to get the Dean Sanders effect.
That's what North Carolina is hoping for. Bill Belichick, you
got your Dion. Well, no, there's only one don You
can have Eddie George. Eddie George a wonderful guy, not
Dion ed Reid, He not Dia. Michael Vick not Dion.
(35:13):
You got to have personality, and he has more than enough.
But he has been in our world, in our life
for thirty years. We've seen prime, We've seen all of
this good, bad, great took the job at Jackson State.
Everybody's like, what what are you doing there? He was
(35:35):
just there just to get people's attention, and then Florida
State didn't hire him. Travis Hunter was going to go
to Florida State. Dion's like, Hey, I'm bringing my boys,
and uh, why don't you come with me?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're going to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And I think even Travis Hunter's like, damn, it's cold there,
and Shador's like, oh no, we'll heat it up. End
up winning the Heisman. They had a great year, almost
qualified for the college football playoffs. But if you think
you're getting Dion Sanders, think again. In one guy, that's it.
But if I'm Sacramento State, all right, you got people's
(36:11):
attention with Mike Norfolk, I get that one, just you know, geographically,
but trying to get a coach that kids are going
to want to play for that they know who he is,
and you know, Mike's Mike's kind of reserved. He's shy
almost now. He wasn't when he was on the field.
(36:32):
That was his personality. If you're recruiting, like this is
what this is? The knock on Belichick? Can he relate
to these players, his personality, how's that going to come across.
I don't know how Michael Vick will be in the
room with you know, these parents zoom calls. Kids want
to be a dual threat, you know, a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I don't have any idea.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What Norfolk State football program has been like the last
ten year, five years. I know Sacramento State has played
playoff games FBS.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yes, Marvin does every single college college coach need to
be charismatic.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I think if you're trying to get Dion effect, then like,
if I'm hiring you, what am I hiring you to do? Like,
I need you to go in there and you're the face,
So be in the face. You've got to be out
in front. You got to be recruiting. You got to
you know, when you're at the press conference, when you're
being interviewed, you're there all the time. You're you're out front.
(37:33):
And this is what Belichick's going to have to do.
Hey we need you go to the basketball game. Hey
you know we got booster meeting here. Hey we have this,
we have that. We that's what college is now. You
can delegate to a certain degree, but if you're going
to be that focal point, that figurehead. We want to
see you. Then it comes down to I know Belichick
can coach. Belichick gives you an advantage over every coach
(37:56):
in America because he's a better coach than any coach
in America. So you always have an advantage going into
a game. I don't know. Now Michael Vick was a
player coach, then might be a little more interesting for me.
But good if he gets an opportunity. And look, I've
spent time with Mike. I've mentioned this before. You know,
(38:20):
we know what he did with dog fighting. Everybody knows
that he went to prison. He paid a price. He
went to a hardcore prison, and when he got out,
Tony Dungee took him under his wing and said, look,
I want to help you. And one of the things
he did, he said, I want you to go and
talk to these kids at a prison outside of Tampa.
(38:41):
And Tony asked me, Tony had done me a favor,
and he said, I want you to do me a favor.
I want you to come down here with me with Mike.
And I got to see Mike in a prison yard
and I'm guessing ninety five percent were African American and
probably ninety five percent were under twenty five years of age,
(39:04):
but they listened to it. When he spoke, they listened
and he went around. There were even there were guys
who were in their jail cells who weren't allowed out
in the yard that you know, they had done something
where they were on lockdown. Mike went in and walked
around and talked to everybody who was there in their
jail cell through the through the bars and spoke to them.
(39:29):
And you could see the reaction from these kids. And
they were kids twenty five and under, it felt like.
And Tony Dungee wanted wanted Michael to kind of share
his experience he had been in prison, and I, I,
you know, I do root for him. I like, Mike,
did he make a terrible mistake?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yes he did.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I went to dinner with him with Tony Dungee one
night in Tampa, and uh, you know, he was very reserve,
very quiet, and probably not trusting of me because I
was a member of the media. But you know I
could I could tell where he just looked around the
whole night. We were in a booth and uh, I
think it was Lee Roy Selman's restaurant and he just
(40:15):
looking around constantly because people would walk by and he
didn't know how they were going to react to him.
But I mean we've had him on subsequently and we've
talked football, and you know, he he knows what happened,
and you know, he could even have a dog and
want to have a dog for his kids, and you know,
so there's a lot tied up in all of that,
and I don't know, it sounds like, you know, these
(40:37):
universities may be past that and giving him an opportunity
to coach. So maybe he can walk in and you know,
he doesn't have the same impact that Dion had, but
nobody does. But maybe they'll listen to him. Maybe you
can recruit, maybe he can build something there at Norfolk
State or Sacramento State.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yes, Mark, because maybe sometimes the name is enough if
you're a quarterback and you're the parents, So the parents
might be more geek to meet Michael Vick than It's
almost like the Deon Sanders thing, like they don't know
Diana as a player, but their parents love them. So
if my kid was twenty and Michael Vick walked in,
I'd be super excited, no matter how charismatic. He might
or might not be. Just the name alone rings bells
(41:19):
to where. You know what, Let's give Sacramento State a shot.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, maybe maybe yeah, Pull.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I'm reading the Sacramento b this morning and the reporter
said it's premature say Michael Vick as the next coach.
They're talking to a number of coaches and his name
leaked out.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, the Norfolk State thing, that's real, and I get
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