June 24, 2024 • 41 mins
Ross Tuckers continues in for DP on a “Meathead Monday” and he and the Danettes talk about the dedication and heartbreak we are seeing at the U.S. Olympic Trials. And he talks to legendary NFL insider Greg Cosell about the offseason action and what to watch as the season is creeping up on us.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio, our number.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on a meathead Monday, Ross Tucker ak Meathead James
vander Meek filling in for Dan for the next couple
of days. He is on VACA and thank goodness for
the Edmonton Oilers winning that game Friday night. I was
sitting there thinking, what are we going to talk about Monday?
I mean I was I was thinking. I was starting
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to come up with a lot of food and beer
and other topics.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But the Oilers came through for us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And actually that wasn't the only sport that kind of
came through for us. If you look at it over
the weekend, there was a lot of fun stuff going on.
I mean, you got the Olympic Trials, USA soccer, You've
got some baseball.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Stuff, Scottie Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Winning the Travelers in a playoff. There was some drama
there with the protesters on eighteen. We've got the College
World Series tonight. Out of the non NHL game seven
Stanley Cup Final topics from the weekend, what is the
next most interesting thing to you?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I know, we'll do best and worse the weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A little bit later in the hour, we'll have Greg
Cosell to get We're gonna get a little NFL here, right,
a little bit of NFL. Plus nobody's better than Greg
Cosell breaking down the video. So we'll get my guy,
Greg Cosell in twenty minutes to talk about some of
these quarterbacks that I know he has a strong opinion on.
But I'm curious. Well, we'll continue, obviously to take calls
(01:36):
eight seven seven three DP show. But other than Oilers
Panthers tonight, what was most interesting to you, Fritz?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I got into Tennessee text A and M and that
there was one not the gay and M till late
in the game. Then Tennessee came back forcing a game three,
and now to anything kind of sport with a deciding game,
I'm totally into that. What a nice little appetizer for
Game seven of the hockey. So that worked out well.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know, I think it's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I can't name one college baseball player and I won't try.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
To, and I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I feel like, if it's a pro sport, I almost
feel like I want to know a couple of the
players to really care about the pro sport. But for
college just knowing that it's Tennessee Tech A and M
is good enough for me.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
PAULI yeah, I like the College World Series. I always
watch it, but because of the minor leagues and how
college to the pro's works, rarely they go right from
the College World Series to being on a professional team.
But then he got Paul Skeens, who was a star
for LSU when you know, less than two years ago,
and there he is with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It's almost like he's one of the first guys that
feels like an NFL quarterback star in college quickly to
a star in the pros, star in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I want to know more about him because he started
his career at air Force, which I think is so interesting,
his college career, then he went to LSU. You know,
I get nervous when I watch him. His last pitch
last yesterday, I think it was yesterday, not last night.
Yesterday was one hundred and two miles per hour, and
I looked after six innings, I looked. He's not eligible
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for free agency until twenty thirty one. It's interesting because
as a former NFL player, we always hear all the
time about how baseball's union is so much stronger than
Football's union. And I guess on some level that's true.
But first of all, that's because they've been around a
lot longer. There's a lot more there. It's different sports.
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But a lot of NFL guys are getting contract extensions
after three years now, big contract extensions, these quarterbacks, these receivers.
A baseball player, like, if you're throwing one.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Hundred and two in twenty twenty four, what do you.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Think the Vegas odds are that Skien's arm is still
healthy in twenty thirty one to get that big contract,
It can't be real good. Last time a guy threw
one hundred and two for seven years without having to
have Tommy John or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
PAULI.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I did look up his contract and he's got some
arbitration ways to get out of his contract to be outperforms.
So it's one of those things that's it's on paper.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, Yeah, but they go to arbitration and then they
it's still not it's still not being a free agent
and going to the Yankees or wherever.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Well, it makes him awesome, is what makes you nervous
about him? When he's throwing more pitches over one hundred
than under for an at bat it's He's the first
tune in pitcher that I've seen in about seven or
eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But we didn't used to like in the eighties when
it was like Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemens. We didn't
watch them and think, Okay, when's he gonna have to
have Tommy John. Now I feel like if a pitcher
throws hard, we're like, okay, when's he getting hurt?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
When did that change? And why did that change?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Maybe the way maybe you know, I have a few
friends who have sons who play baseball, and they said,
velocity and spin rate is how you get recruited and
how you get to the pros. So every pitcher is
trying to max out. You guy like Jamie Moyer, remember
that eighties nineties pitchers who throw a bunch of junk balls,
he wouldn't get a college scholarship.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now maybe you know what though, by the way, they
also they all pitch like year round and they throw
way too much. I think I think that's part of
it too. Seeing what what interests you second most over
the weekend. Take the Oilers and the Panther Stanley Cup
Final Game seven out of it, what's like the next
most interesting thing that happened in the world of sports
(05:24):
over the weekend. If I'm removing soccer from it, I knew, Yeah,
I was gonna bet that's what I'm.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Spending my entire weekend I must to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Are you more into the Euros or Copa America?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Well, the Euros. The Euros is like watching somebody had
a great, a funny way of putting it where it
was like. The Euros is like watching like like great
ballet or something.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And the Copa America is like watching a street fight.
You know, It's like they didn't put it exactly like that,
but it's a stylistic thing. It's not as pretty of
a game. Yeah, Like the Euros is much more refined,
I would say, And the Copa America is like physical, hard,
tach really things like that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, because I thought Brazil, like I always thought that
Brazil played like the beautiful game.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay, they're all really great. But when
you watch Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, England, all of them,
it's just a different style of game.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Okay, Marv, what do you got from over the weekend?
Speaker 9 (06:24):
The Olympic trials? I was completely fascinated. And what fascinates
me is these people have been working tirelessly every single
day for four years to get to this moment, and
some of them won't make it, and you just kind
of see like the desperation of the main Olympics and
only gets the top three or top two or whatever
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make the Olympics and go to Paris. And so that's
always been fascinating to me, even probably more so than
the Olympics, because you've been working to get to the Olympics. Now,
if you get to the Olympics and you don't medal,
all right, but I was an Olympian, but coming up
short and the Olympic trials has got to be tough.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I guess that's what makes it special. But as a
guy that got cut four times and trader once, that
hurts my heart to think about the people that have
been working for this their whole life. And then let's
say two guys and their event go to the Olympics
and they got.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Third or whatever. There's actually a swimmer.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm from eastern Pennsylvania, reading like a narrow west of Philadelphia,
and there's a swimmer I believe from my area. Be
his name's Chris Giuliano. Might be wrong there again, fact
check me on anything that's non football, please. I think
he made the Olympics. It's a really big deal, really
big deal that is that's awesome. Is there any Olympic
event where you'd say you'd rather be an Olympian than
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be like a pro in one of the major sports.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Paulie, I'll go with this in a second. I'm with
Marvin on the Olympics trials. I watched a lot of
track and field that I really nerd out on that.
Noah Lyles the one hundred meters two meter guy, tons
of star power, Shad Carrie richardson the hunter meter for America,
tons of star powers. She got a lot of swagger,
very fun, both very like, well, you know what, as
(08:11):
much as I'd love to play a team sport at
any level, to be the fastest man on earth is
like that being the heavyweight champion. But it's a fact.
Like if you're the fastest man in the world, you're
a Usain Bolt a decade ago. There's no argument, there's
no like, well, you know, he might be the best quarterback,
like Justin Herbert might think they.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Had to play on if they had to play on.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Grass, you know right, it was at downhill for a
Usain Bolt. It was the track and field. Being named
the fastest human ever to run?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Is the coolest?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Would you rather be the fastest human or like the
heavyweight champ of.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
The world in nineteen eighty Probably the heavyweight champ now
the fastest human fritzy?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
What about the greatest all around athlete? Back in the
genner weed these days? And it doesn't get a whole
lot of attention because there's some weird sports I guess
involved in all the different things you have to.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Do to win that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But you would be seen, I would think as the
world's greatest athlete winning the decathl one and all the
events involved with that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't think anybody says that or feels that way.
The last time I remember the decathlete was like, was
it rebok Dan versus Dave?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes? Remember that? And then the one guy didn't make
the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He was like he was like the best guy and
at the Olympic trials he blew one event and didn't
get a chance to go.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, it was either like ninety two or ninety six.
Kind of the part about the Olympic Trials.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It stinks though, right like Dave Johnson versus Dan O'Brien,
and Dan O'Brien was the star of the two and
the more expected. And during the Olympic Trials, Dan O'Brien
he could have taken an easy pole vaut. I think
it was the easy long jump.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was yeah, or he failed he failed all three.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, he could have done like an easy twelve foot
pole vault just to get a number. And he waited
and they had this huge ad campaign and Rebock ready
to go. It was in the midst of it and
he missed it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I think, because of the effect that has on
your body, I would rather be the fastest human in
the world than be the heavyweight champ, because if you're
the heavyweight champ, that means you're taking a pounding on
your head and that's not good. But if it had
no impact on your body, I think I'd still rather
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walk around knowing. I'd rather walk around knowing I could
beat anybody up than walk around knowing I was fast
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Else like fast.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Everybody else is pretty cool, but you're not going to
be like at a bar and something's gonna happen and
you gotta like run, Oh maybe that could I take
that back?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Actually, I feel like if you're that dude who knows
you could beat everybody up, people are always going to
be challenging you, you.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Like every there's always going to be some dude at
the bar that's like, oh, heavyweight champling. I think I
could take this dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, what's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
See when I was a player that actually happened a
decent amount of times. Yes, it's a problem, Yeah, it's
a problem. There was a guy I was at a
bar in Charleston, South Carolina, and all he wanted to
do was arm wrestle.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
He's like, you want a arm wrestle, man, it'd be fun. Yeah,
it'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I could just tell he did it a lot
and he was a good arm wrestler. And I was like, nah,
it's all right, man, that's cool. And then and then
he said it again, like come on, man, it'd be fun,
Like I'll put some money on and I'm like, now
that's good. Like I could tell he wanted it too bad,
you know, And I'm just thinking to myself, Well, first
of all, if I win, nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
If I lose, it's bad. And by the way, what
if I get hurt?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So he was really like this must have been his
trick to get girls because he was really good. The
last thing he said is he walked by me. He said, yeah,
you don't want you because you know I'd rip your
bleeping arm off. That was like his last tactic. And
what I said to him, I said, he's like two
other times. One time when these guys were talking, trashed me.
(11:54):
Well that guy, I said something different, But two guys
that were like wanted to fight. I was like, listen, man,
I get paid.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
To hit you. I'm not going to give you a freere.
You go football paid to hit people. I'm not going
to give you a free one.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I said, But if you want me to, if you
want me to scientif and it says you beat me
up so you can show your friends, I'll sign that
for you.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Like how tough would it be? Because you were an
offensive linement? If you said, how are you on pass protection?
How about that? Is that a good smack talk? What
are your thoughts on past protection?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But I'll never forget. I think it was like my
second thirty year in the NFL. I went to a
bar back in my hometown and this guy came up
to me and he's like, uh ross.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I was like, yeah, he's like uh.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I went to Exeter, which is like a rival high school,
and I went back and I watched our game from
ninety five and I did pretty good against you. Like
how do I respond to that? I was like, cool,
it's awesome, man, Like I just pictured this guy. We're
like twenty five years old. Now it's two thousand and
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three or two thousand and four, and I'm just picturing.
Like I wanted to ask him, like did you do
that with your girlfriend? Like or was that your parents?
Like who still had to tape the VHS tape that
you went back and watched and watch.
Speaker 10 (13:02):
His point, then I could have been an NFL player
just like you, if I.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Really wanted to think.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I think, you know, not that many people from like
a small town make the NFL, right, So I think
he was just curious as to how he did.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Against the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But like I was an NFL player, then I was
just a good ice school player, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But that's why it would be great to be Usain
Bolt because when you're outside of a restaurant ten years
ago and some dude walks up goes, I want to race.
You don't have to race. It's a fact that you're
already going to beat him. It's a fact. Like you
if you've got a fight, even when you were at
your peak with the bills and your big strong guy,
there's someone in that bar who might be able to
knock you out at the other if they got lucky.
Oh yeah, generally probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, I don't know nowadays, man.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Husain Bolt wasn't beatable in any type of race.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So I might have said this to you guys before.
I think Usain Bolt's the most impressive athlete of my
lifetime because any other sport you talk about, like NBA
or football, literally billions of people have never played it. Right,
Everybody that has legs and can run has ran at
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some point and they.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Know whether out they're fast.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So the fastest guy in Taiwan and the fastest guy
in California, like, they've all run at some point, they've
been in some type.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Of trial, and they for him to be that much
faster than every other.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
How many human beings are on the planet, like five billion,
six billion checking. Yeah again, I need fat stat checker
for Ain, like this fact checker that to me is
absolutely insane.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Set you know what I think it is too. That's
impressive about him. And like while you guys are talking
about like which one the strongest or the or the fastest? Yeah,
Yusain Bolt had that quote where he said I trained
four years to run nine seconds. That level of patience
to actually that, you know, that's the thing that I
don't know that I would be able to do, To
train for four years to just have this one moment
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or you know a couple of moments. How many races
does he race in the Olympics, three four, whatever it is?
Speaker 10 (15:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I know that there's ones leading up that get no attention.
I know there's all of these other things. But to
have that level of patience to train that long for
just this one moment is like superhuman tomake.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Is he still making money off of what he did?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh yeah, Like I'm saying Bolt, Like who pays him
to do? What?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Puma?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
He's a spokesman for Puma and a few other places.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Okay, See I went to Bermuda a few years ago
and as soon as we got off the plane. He
was there for like some like cell phone service I'd
never heard of. But then when you look it up,
it's like in every country in the world except ours,
you know what I mean. So he's internationally. I think
his celebrity is is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's still taking the business of being Usain Bolt is
still booming.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
I think it still works.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, okay, Well he got his estimated income per year
at least fifteen million dollars in endorsement. Wow, yep, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I ain't they have to run at all?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Now pay to not run?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do you do you think Usain Bolt has has run
one time since the last time you had you, like,
really run to see how fast he could do it.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I see him at some cherry trains.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Once in a while, you'll see him at a cherry thing
and someone will race him and he'll jog a few
steps and then give him a quick smoking and then
go all right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Gosh, that'd be so fun.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Quick before we break. Guess the world population who wants
a piece of it?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Six billion?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Oh, you're so low, that's so that's so twenty eleven.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I want to say it's seven, but that might have
been a few years ago.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
Closer, Marv lots of baby showers in Connecticut lately.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go eight. Well, he's
giving you hints.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I said six, and he said you're low. Seaton said seven.
He said closer.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
I mean, if you know seven and a half billion.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Marv said eight, like he was like pulling out in
the thin air.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Uh fritzy, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
Right in the middle, seven and a half billion between
the seven and eight.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I got the estimate over eight billion as of January
this year. In counting. By the way, it's not well
do you think it's going down? I think they say
an average increase of seventy five million per year.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Eight billion people, and nobody is close to as fast
as you saying Bolt.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, who is that possible?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
If you line them all up?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, if you like, all eight billion people and they
all ran you, Sain Bowlt would be all of us
by like five yards at least.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
That's how many Hamburgers McDonald's sold.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They always have that thing with over eight billion and
sold on a hamburg it's just the same number of people.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
It's Hamburger sold.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is impressive.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
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Speaker 3 (18:55):
Game seven this evening. I cannot wait. It's been a long.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Time time since I watched an entire hockey game on TV.
At least I watch him in person all the time.
But I'm very much looking forward to watching tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
We're gonna say, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I want to save this till after Greg Cosel, but
I want you to think about this. What do you
do at home tonight if the big TV and the
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your answer us ooh that could be a topic.
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Well, I'm just gonna be in a hotel room here.
That doesn't really apply to me, lucky dog. But we
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Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think this week we'll be previewing the NFC.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
South, but I know Greg has some interesting thoughts on
some of the quarterbacks that have been in the news lately.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Looking forward to talking with.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The guys about hockey next hour. But Greg, I want
to start with Trevor Lawrence because he just got a
contract for fifty five million dollars a year, and as
you and I always talk about, the money is the
money yep. When you think about Trevor Lawrence, and I
know you did a deep dive on him recently, what
(20:32):
do you see? What do you think about him and
being paid at that elite level?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Well, just to start ross, as you know, I don't
have thoughts or or you know, or takes. I'm watching
the film, so it's it's you know, it's these are
not takes, your thoughts. The film tells you. And the
other thing I do, as you probably know, is I
talk to coaches as well, so I have great conversations
with them about what I see, what they and more
(21:01):
often than not it pretty much is the same thing.
What I will say is this, when you look at quarterbacks.
One thing you have to be very aware of when
you talk about their ability to play the position is
you have to understand the difference between clean pockets when
everything is pristine and a quarterback can drop back and
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it's clean, there's no one around him, versus what happens
when the pocket gets a little muddied and noisy and
there's people around him. The really great quarterbacks, those are
not factors. They can perform at the same level ross regardless.
Lawrence is not quite there yet. Lawrence is a big kid,
good arm, not a power arm. Contrary to what people
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might think, he does not have a power arm. He's
got a good arm. One of the issues he has
is when he perceives and feels pressure, he starts to
play a little faster and he throws the ball not
quite as well. So he's got to continue to work
on that. People have to remember he's only going into
his fourth year, and some might suggest that his first
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year in the league was kind of a wash because
of the whole situation that he played under with urban Meyer,
and it just you know, it didn't obviously work out.
But you know, I think you're dealing with a guy
that's really athletic. He actually throws the ball really well
on the run, but he doesn't drive the football when
there are people around him, and he's going to have
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to get that figured out. He's a big body guy
who tends to be a strider and gets a little
elongated in his delivery. So these are just things that
he has to continue to work on.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, So, Greg, but when he came out, whether
it was high school or college, I mean, he was
talked about since he was maybe fifteen sixteen years old
as being like the next guy.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And I guess when I watch him, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, like, I don't think he He's obviously not
Mahomes or Josh Allen. I'm not even sure he's Herbert
or Matthew Stafford in terms of physical ability. Have we
because of his early success?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Okay, go ahead, He's not.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
And by the way, as you know, what he was
thought of when he was fifteen is not relevant to me,
and it's not relevant to NFL coaches, you know. Right now,
all Doug Peterson and Press Taylor want to do is
get Trevor Lawrence playing at the highest level he can play. Now.
He's gifted enough to be a quality NFL quarterback. The
question some will have, of course, is can he become
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one of those top three or top five guys. That
well remains to be seen. And by the way, you
don't need a power gun in order to be a
top three or top five quarterback in this league. But
there's certainly areas, as I said, where he needs to improve.
One thing I do really like about him is he's
an aggressive thrower ross. When he has sees one on
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one outside the numbers, he is delivered the football and
you need to do that in the NFL. It's really
hard to be a truly high level quarterback in this
league if you're not going to be aggressive throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What about the next two guys, Greg that seemed to
be up for these big contracts, Tua, Tungo Violoa, Yeah,
Jordan Love you can you do you think Tua is
a top five quarterback? Do you think he can be
a top five quarterback? What do you see from Tua?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
I would say that Tua is as good a window
thrower as there is in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
He has an.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Innate feel for underneath coverage and the timing of throws
between and behind coverage. Those window throws versus own is
what separates him from many quarterbacks in the NFL. His
sense of timing and anticipation is really really high level,
and so everything about his game is built off that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The question you have to.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
A ask yourself and believe me, this is what you know,
This is what coaches talk about, is where do you
stand when it comes to the ability to make second
reaction plays, make plays outside of the structure, or make
plays even late in the down in the pocket where
the ball can come out with timing and rhythm. Now,
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keep in mind that this is an offense that is
totally built on that, and because of the receivers they
have and the motion that they deploy, which is far
and away the most in the league. Very rarely is
the timing and rhythm disrupted. I mean Hill Waddle. Now
they'll have Beckham. These guys get off the ball, they're
not stopped, they are not pressed, they're not disrupted. So
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the timing and rhythm is there. So the speed of
Hill and Waddle is really problematic. It's tough to play
man coverage, it's tough to play single high safety coverage.
So therefore too for the most part, can play at
a high level point I want to make because people
always talk about deep throws. People have to understand, Ross,
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a fade is not a deep ball throw. A fade
is not an armstrained throw. He's a really good fade
ball thrower, but it's not an arm strained throw, and
it's not a deep ball throw.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know what's so interesting, Gregan, We're talking with my
guy Greg Cosel from NFL Films, who joins me every
week on the Ross Tucker Podcast.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
We become so obsessed with second reaction plays, right, and
guys that can drive the ball down the field or
run around and make plays. And you were saying that
that's not really Tua's game. I would say, Greg, for
like a decade, the three best quarterbacks were Tom Brady,
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Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees. And I don't only remember
seeing those three guys make a whole lot of second
reaction plays. I mean, most of what they did was
getting the ball out quick timing, in rhythm into windows, right.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
But there's there's one thing particularly Breeze and Brady more
so than Peyton. Peyton's just a different animal overall, But
Breeze and Brady were still very good what we call
late in the down ross in other words, they're not
leaving the pocket, but they could stay in the pocket
and they could make throws later in the down. In
other words, it didn't always have to be the precise
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timing and rhythm. They didn't leave the pocket to do it,
but they could do it from the pocket. But to
your point, different coaches have different views about the inherent
value of getting out of the pocket. There's a lot
of coaches that believe that the NFL game is now
such that to really become that guy, you know, a
top four or five guy in the league, that you
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have to be able to make those kinds of second
reaction plays because then you get into the playoffs and
you know, you start playing, you know, the better defenses.
Sometimes they take things away, and that's happened with Tua
at times. And you know, there's a lot of people
who believe that, hey, he's going to have to somehow
try to get beyond that. We'll see if he can.
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There are a difficult offense to defend, there's no question
about that. But he's certainly not a second reaction outside
of structure above the x's and o's whatever term you
want to use, that's not his game.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So one thing that I think was really interesting last week, Greg,
you said to me that you would be very, very
very surprised if Sam Donald doesn't start for the Minnesota
Vikings because JJ McCarthy has a lot a quote unquote
a lot to work on. I guess my question is
we kind of I feel like now that he's been
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with three teams, we kind of know what Sam Donald is.
Can you make the argument that if JJ McCarthy has
a lot to work on, that the Vikings would be
better off if he was playing and working on it,
as opposed to well, I mean, what does it how's
help you for the Vikings to have Sam donold Star games?
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What are you gonna do with same, especially in the
same division with the Packers and Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What does that do for you?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Maybe you want a couple more games, but shouldn't they
start to see what they have in McCarthy and get
him developed.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Well you know again that that's a very individual question.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Ross.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
That's easy from the outside for you and I or
anybody else to say, oh, well, just play McCarthy, But
you know, we don't know the specifics. I mean, I
have a pretty good idea just because you know people
I've spoken to, but we don't know the specifics of
what McCarthy is and isn't at this point. And you
certainly don't want to put a young quarterback out there
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that's truly not ready to play. And it's not just
a matter of making a mistake here and there. Ross
and you know this. I mean you played in the league.
If your quarterback can't really function for whatever reason, it
could be physical, it could be mental, we don't you know,
whatever reason, you can't really put him out there. I mean,
the Vikings do not have a bad football team. While
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we know what Donald is, you can still put Sam
Darnold out there and compete. Whether you can do that
with McCarthy, the feeling seems to be that you can't
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Now.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Obviously, they drafted him, I think it was eleventh if
I'm not mistaken, so they expect him to be their
starting quarterback. But I just my sense is and even
the tape tells you that he has much to work on. Look,
like I told you when we talked last week or
the week before, I can't remember. I know coaches in
the league that had a third round grade on McCarthy. Now,
obviously he was drafted eleven, so the expectations become sky
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high and they're different.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But Greg, he didn't he start every game for three
years at Michigan, Like, if he's not ready, was it
three years?
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I thought?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I thought he started as a true freshman too. We
can go back and check, but I know he started
for two years.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I thought he started a bunch as a true freshman.
About Jim Harball, if he started that many college games
and he's not ready, I.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Can't speak to I'm not there. And again, you know,
Jim harboys jobs to win games, and he certainly did
that pretty well, just winning a national championship. So but
you know, as I said many times before the tape
with McCarthy, and by the way, McCarthy's another great example
of a guy that has a very good arm if
you just watch him throwing shorts and a T shirt.
But when you put him in a game and there's
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people around him, that all changes. So there's things that
he needs to work on. They'll decide when he's ready,
But I would doubt that he'd be the week one starter.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You also, I think a couple weeks ago, Greg had
mentioned that you were talking with a coach about NFC
quarterbacks and you talked about who's the best NFC quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And that you both right away said Stafford.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So over guys like Golf or Hurts or party are
you do you feel confidence and you think that Stafford's
the best quarterback in the NFC?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And why Yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Think Matthew Stafford's one of the most overlook overlook quarterbacks
in the last decade, if not more. He is a high,
high level talent. He's played really really well. He obviously
was on a bad team for a year, so he
was never talked about. But Stafford is incredibly intelligent, really talented.
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I you know, he's incredibly respected in the league. I
mean he's he's a really high level traits quarterback, a
high level mental quarterback. He's just a really really good quarterback.
I mean you talk to people in the league and
in their mind he's a top five quarterback without question.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That is awesome, great stuff. Greg always appreciate talking with you,
whether it's here or on my show The Rosstucker Podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Check him out on social media.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The NFL films legend forty five years breaking down the
tape back when it was actually tape.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's at Greg Cosal.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Thank you Greg, Thanks Ross, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
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Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:43):
We are going hockey heavy next hour, and with good reason.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Those guys, it's gonna be like their skates aren't even
touching the ice. It's gonna be like their flying around
the ice. I cannot wait. Jason Demerz from NHL Network
join us at the top of the hour, and then
Maddy Rose, who's a radio host in Calgary. He's gonna
come and talk about the other Canadian cities and how
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they're feeling about the Oilers potentially winning the cup. Big
rivalry between Calgary and Edmonton. This is the time of
the show, though, before we get back to your calls
eight seven seven to three DP show, or look at
some of your social posts at DP show or to
me at Ross Tucker NFL, I want to know the
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best and worst of the weekend from the guys.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I will start.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I don't know why I feel like when I'm starting,
it's like I always want to go upper left.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Fritzie's upper left.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
We can do that.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm gonna switch it up, Fritzi. I'm gonna start. If
I'm upper left, I'm gonna go lower right instead with Marvin.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
All right, thanks Ross. Best of the weekend.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I got two best angel rees twenty five point sixteen rebounds,
the Fever lost to the sky. It should be fevers. No,
I think it's good with just fever. Other best of
the weekend. I read over the weekend. Yeah, definitely breaking
news Friday night Lights. This is my first time reading
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Friday night Lights.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
What I mean, you read the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
No?
Speaker 9 (35:29):
No, no, maybe about a quarter of the way through,
and it is wild. So far this is more incredible.
It is like, well, this is not the movie, this
is not the TV show. I mean, it was as
real as it gets to the worst the weekend. Oh
that was two Best. Oh you're yes, it is buzz.
(35:51):
Are you so you're allowed to do that?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah? Just do two Best and they can.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
It's loose here. You're like a substitute host.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I was thinking about this with that fever sky. By
the way, if the fever this is like a fritzy thing.
But if the fever are like playing well or the
fever running hot right, hit the thinger.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
What's that called rim shot?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Rim shot?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And why is that what you do when it's like
a dad joke or like a not really funny.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Like old Hollywood comedians like, hey guys, I'm at the copa.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
They like the Polcono's or whatever. That was the spot
where all the hot entertainers went and heck.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
My wife please.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But who was who was the first person that ever
did that and made that a thing checking you know
what I mean, Like, at some point somebody was the
first one to tell a dumb joke and hit the
symbol whatever it's called. And then that just became like
for the rest of eternity, that guy's a legend.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Okay, quick history lesson drummer. Drummer gene Krupa is credit
was inventing the rim shot. He used it as a
punchline of being jokes with comedians that opened for his
He would sit in back and the cat skills of
someone mentioned and they would do little rim shots when
the comedians played before the band went on. Gene Krupa
famous drummer.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
All right, and here's my question about what Marvin said.
I was thinking about this driving here this morning, driving
three hours and twenty minutes here this morning. Is Angel
Reese and Caitlin Clark. Are they have the potential to
be like the Larry Bird Magic Johnson of the WNBA,
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Or is it more like Caitlin Clark is Michael Jordan
and Angel Reese is like Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Or maybe it's a hybrid. Maybe like is it true.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The dynamic and play, you know, white person against a
black person in great rivalry and that whole deal is like,
is that what's fueling the growth or is it really
just Caitlin Clark and actually I don't I'm too young
as I don't remember this when with the Larry Bird
Magic Johnson thing was one of them, Like was it
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more magic and Larry just had like the racial dynamic
or was it Like those guys were fifty to fifty
partners in this.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
They were both National Players of the Year in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So they were true fifty to fifty. Because Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark they're not like true fifty to fifty partners.
It's like seventy five twenty five.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I feel like, right, they have a different style of
game completely. They play different positions and Reese was never
a phenom as far as like the way she played.
There was a unique like a Steph Curry deep shooter.
But she's been a great player going back to since
she was at Maryland as a post player, a rebounder,
a good post scorer.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But it's well, I love her game.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, she's just and energy rebounds. Like like if she
played in the NBA, she would get paid a lot
of money.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But the I think we're out of the past. Four Sundays,
their game Fever Sky been on National TV, one was
on CBS, CBS not even CBSSN.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
All right, so what's your what's your best and worst?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Bully Best of the weekend? Paul Skian's The Pirates. You know,
I'm not even a Pirates fan, but it feels like
it's been a long time since we've had an appointment
programming pitcher say that five times. Yeah, that was good
with Major League Baseball because of the emphasis of the
starting pitcher and not going deep. Yeah, you have to
go back to Strasbourg or Max Schurzer when he was
coming up that you were like, I'm going to make
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an appointment to tune into this guy if he's on
National TV or you find his game. So that's really
cool the appointment.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I feel it. Did Strasburg have a good career.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
He had exactly a good career. He didn't have like
he's not flirting with the Hall of Fame, got it.
He had he had two really good years, so.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He didn't become what people thought he could become.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
He had some injuries early injuries, yeah, injuries late My
worst of the weekend Marvin kind of said it. When
you're watching the Track and Field trials and you watch
a man a woman finished fourth out of four people
out of eight people and the top three get in
to the Olympics and they finish it by like a
body length, and they show the other three people celebrating,
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and they see them sitting down just thinking what are
they doing tomorrow? What are they doing next week? Do
they have to go back to work? Can they are
they training for free year defeat I free?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
The Olympic Trials are phenomenal. They're absolutely great to watch.
I watched a lot of the swimming. I didn't see
as much of the track and field, but they it's
you just see because you get somebody who's like, hey,
here's eighteen year old Jimmy Lipper who's hoping for his
first chance. And then on the other side you have,
you know, here's thirty two year old Tommy Mouth there,
this is his last chance to get in. The storylines
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are unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So I want to go to the Olympics or Olympic
Trials real bad one time.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I want to sit there, like in the front row
while they're swimming and just see how fast they're really swimming,
you know, or like see how fast I've never been
to a tennis match, Like I want to go to
the US Open sometime and just see how hard do
they really hit the ball? Fritzi, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Best of the weekend The Twins Bailey ober needing only
eighty nine pitchers for a complete game win in ten
k's to beat the A's ten to two on Saturday,
and Oakland went off the board a little bit there. Worst,
staying with baseball, the Nationals losing the bottom of the
night because their pitcher Kyle Finnegan had a bases loaded
pitchclock violation.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
At the Rockies. Colorado scored two runs and they last
about eight to seven.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Win first game decided by a pitchclock violation in Major
league history.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Nats close.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
If Finnegan leads the league with nine pitch clock violations
this season, what the heck, Holly.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
That's a clock off. Be careful saying it. Be careful
saying clock off.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I'm not gonna say, how do you have nine of them?
If you're finningg in?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean, figure it out, man, one more out to go.
There's a clock. Throw the ball, dude, there's a clock yetah,
throw it.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on a meathead Monday, Ross Tucker ak Meathead James
vander Meek filling in for Dan for the next couple
of days. He is on VACA and thank goodness for
the Edmonton Oilers winning that game Friday night. I was
sitting there thinking, what are we going to talk about Monday?
I mean I was I was thinking. I was starting
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to come up with a lot of food and beer
and other topics.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But the Oilers came through for us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And actually that wasn't the only sport that kind of
came through for us. If you look at it over
the weekend, there was a lot of fun stuff going on.
I mean, you got the Olympic Trials, USA soccer, You've
got some baseball.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Stuff, Scottie Scheffler.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Winning the Travelers in a playoff. There was some drama
there with the protesters on eighteen. We've got the College
World Series tonight. Out of the non NHL game seven
Stanley Cup Final topics from the weekend, what is the
next most interesting thing to you?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I know, we'll do best and worse the weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A little bit later in the hour, we'll have Greg
Cosell to get We're gonna get a little NFL here, right,
a little bit of NFL. Plus nobody's better than Greg
Cosell breaking down the video. So we'll get my guy,
Greg Cosell in twenty minutes to talk about some of
these quarterbacks that I know he has a strong opinion on.
But I'm curious. Well, we'll continue, obviously to take calls
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eight seven seven three DP show. But other than Oilers
Panthers tonight, what was most interesting to you, Fritz?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I got into Tennessee text A and M and that
there was one not the gay and M till late
in the game. Then Tennessee came back forcing a game three,
and now to anything kind of sport with a deciding game,
I'm totally into that. What a nice little appetizer for
Game seven of the hockey. So that worked out well.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You know, I think it's interesting too.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I can't name one college baseball player and I won't try.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
To, and I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I feel like, if it's a pro sport, I almost
feel like I want to know a couple of the
players to really care about the pro sport. But for
college just knowing that it's Tennessee Tech A and M
is good enough for me.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
PAULI yeah, I like the College World Series. I always
watch it, but because of the minor leagues and how
college to the pro's works, rarely they go right from
the College World Series to being on a professional team.
But then he got Paul Skeens, who was a star
for LSU when you know, less than two years ago,
and there he is with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It's almost like he's one of the first guys that
feels like an NFL quarterback star in college quickly to
a star in the pros, star in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I want to know more about him because he started
his career at air Force, which I think is so interesting,
his college career, then he went to LSU. You know,
I get nervous when I watch him. His last pitch
last yesterday, I think it was yesterday, not last night.
Yesterday was one hundred and two miles per hour, and
I looked after six innings, I looked. He's not eligible
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for free agency until twenty thirty one. It's interesting because
as a former NFL player, we always hear all the
time about how baseball's union is so much stronger than
Football's union. And I guess on some level that's true.
But first of all, that's because they've been around a
lot longer. There's a lot more there. It's different sports.
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But a lot of NFL guys are getting contract extensions
after three years now, big contract extensions, these quarterbacks, these receivers.
A baseball player, like, if you're throwing one.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Hundred and two in twenty twenty four, what do you.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Think the Vegas odds are that Skien's arm is still
healthy in twenty thirty one to get that big contract,
It can't be real good. Last time a guy threw
one hundred and two for seven years without having to
have Tommy John or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
PAULI.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I did look up his contract and he's got some
arbitration ways to get out of his contract to be outperforms.
So it's one of those things that's it's on paper.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, Yeah, but they go to arbitration and then they
it's still not it's still not being a free agent
and going to the Yankees or wherever.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Well, it makes him awesome, is what makes you nervous
about him? When he's throwing more pitches over one hundred
than under for an at bat it's He's the first
tune in pitcher that I've seen in about seven or
eight years.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But we didn't used to like in the eighties when
it was like Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemens. We didn't
watch them and think, Okay, when's he gonna have to
have Tommy John. Now I feel like if a pitcher
throws hard, we're like, okay, when's he getting hurt?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
When did that change? And why did that change?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Maybe the way maybe you know, I have a few
friends who have sons who play baseball, and they said,
velocity and spin rate is how you get recruited and
how you get to the pros. So every pitcher is
trying to max out. You guy like Jamie Moyer, remember
that eighties nineties pitchers who throw a bunch of junk balls,
he wouldn't get a college scholarship.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now maybe you know what though, by the way, they
also they all pitch like year round and they throw
way too much. I think I think that's part of
it too. Seeing what what interests you second most over
the weekend. Take the Oilers and the Panther Stanley Cup
Final Game seven out of it, what's like the next
most interesting thing that happened in the world of sports
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over the weekend. If I'm removing soccer from it, I knew, Yeah,
I was gonna bet that's what I'm.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Spending my entire weekend I must to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Are you more into the Euros or Copa America?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Well, the Euros. The Euros is like watching somebody had
a great, a funny way of putting it where it
was like. The Euros is like watching like like great
ballet or something.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Like that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And the Copa America is like watching a street fight.
You know, It's like they didn't put it exactly like that,
but it's a stylistic thing. It's not as pretty of
a game. Yeah, Like the Euros is much more refined,
I would say, And the Copa America is like physical, hard,
tach really things like that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, because I thought Brazil, like I always thought that
Brazil played like the beautiful game.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay, they're all really great. But when
you watch Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, England, all of them,
it's just a different style of game.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Okay, Marv, what do you got from over the weekend?
Speaker 9 (06:24):
The Olympic trials? I was completely fascinated. And what fascinates
me is these people have been working tirelessly every single
day for four years to get to this moment, and
some of them won't make it, and you just kind
of see like the desperation of the main Olympics and
only gets the top three or top two or whatever
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make the Olympics and go to Paris. And so that's
always been fascinating to me, even probably more so than
the Olympics, because you've been working to get to the Olympics. Now,
if you get to the Olympics and you don't medal,
all right, but I was an Olympian, but coming up
short and the Olympic trials has got to be tough.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I guess that's what makes it special. But as a
guy that got cut four times and trader once, that
hurts my heart to think about the people that have
been working for this their whole life. And then let's
say two guys and their event go to the Olympics
and they got.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Third or whatever. There's actually a swimmer.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm from eastern Pennsylvania, reading like a narrow west of Philadelphia,
and there's a swimmer I believe from my area. Be
his name's Chris Giuliano. Might be wrong there again, fact
check me on anything that's non football, please. I think
he made the Olympics. It's a really big deal, really
big deal that is that's awesome. Is there any Olympic
event where you'd say you'd rather be an Olympian than
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be like a pro in one of the major sports.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Paulie, I'll go with this in a second. I'm with
Marvin on the Olympics trials. I watched a lot of
track and field that I really nerd out on that.
Noah Lyles the one hundred meters two meter guy, tons
of star power, Shad Carrie richardson the hunter meter for America,
tons of star powers. She got a lot of swagger,
very fun, both very like, well, you know what, as
(08:11):
much as I'd love to play a team sport at
any level, to be the fastest man on earth is
like that being the heavyweight champion. But it's a fact.
Like if you're the fastest man in the world, you're
a Usain Bolt a decade ago. There's no argument, there's
no like, well, you know, he might be the best quarterback,
like Justin Herbert might think they.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Had to play on if they had to play on.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Grass, you know right, it was at downhill for a
Usain Bolt. It was the track and field. Being named
the fastest human ever to run?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Is the coolest?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Would you rather be the fastest human or like the
heavyweight champ of.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
The world in nineteen eighty Probably the heavyweight champ now
the fastest human fritzy?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
What about the greatest all around athlete? Back in the
genner weed these days? And it doesn't get a whole
lot of attention because there's some weird sports I guess
involved in all the different things you have to.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Do to win that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But you would be seen, I would think as the
world's greatest athlete winning the decathl one and all the
events involved with that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't think anybody says that or feels that way.
The last time I remember the decathlete was like, was
it rebok Dan versus Dave?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes? Remember that? And then the one guy didn't make
the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He was like he was like the best guy and
at the Olympic trials he blew one event and didn't
get a chance to go.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, it was either like ninety two or ninety six.
Kind of the part about the Olympic Trials.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It stinks though, right like Dave Johnson versus Dan O'Brien,
and Dan O'Brien was the star of the two and
the more expected. And during the Olympic Trials, Dan O'Brien
he could have taken an easy pole vaut. I think
it was the easy long jump.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was yeah, or he failed he failed all three.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, he could have done like an easy twelve foot
pole vault just to get a number. And he waited
and they had this huge ad campaign and Rebock ready
to go. It was in the midst of it and
he missed it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So I think, because of the effect that has on
your body, I would rather be the fastest human in
the world than be the heavyweight champ, because if you're
the heavyweight champ, that means you're taking a pounding on
your head and that's not good. But if it had
no impact on your body, I think I'd still rather
(10:20):
walk around knowing. I'd rather walk around knowing I could
beat anybody up than walk around knowing I was fast
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Else like fast.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Everybody else is pretty cool, but you're not going to
be like at a bar and something's gonna happen and
you gotta like run, Oh maybe that could I take
that back?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Actually, I feel like if you're that dude who knows
you could beat everybody up, people are always going to
be challenging you, you.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Like every there's always going to be some dude at
the bar that's like, oh, heavyweight champling. I think I
could take this dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, what's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
See when I was a player that actually happened a
decent amount of times. Yes, it's a problem, Yeah, it's
a problem. There was a guy I was at a
bar in Charleston, South Carolina, and all he wanted to
do was arm wrestle.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
He's like, you want a arm wrestle, man, it'd be fun. Yeah,
it'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I could just tell he did it a lot
and he was a good arm wrestler. And I was like, nah,
it's all right, man, that's cool. And then and then
he said it again, like come on, man, it'd be fun,
Like I'll put some money on and I'm like, now
that's good. Like I could tell he wanted it too bad,
you know, And I'm just thinking to myself, Well, first
of all, if I win, nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
If I lose, it's bad. And by the way, what
if I get hurt?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So he was really like this must have been his
trick to get girls because he was really good. The
last thing he said is he walked by me. He said, yeah,
you don't want you because you know I'd rip your
bleeping arm off. That was like his last tactic. And
what I said to him, I said, he's like two
other times. One time when these guys were talking, trashed me.
(11:54):
Well that guy, I said something different, But two guys
that were like wanted to fight. I was like, listen, man,
I get paid.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
To hit you. I'm not going to give you a freere.
You go football paid to hit people. I'm not going
to give you a free one.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I said, But if you want me to, if you
want me to scientif and it says you beat me
up so you can show your friends, I'll sign that
for you.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Like how tough would it be? Because you were an
offensive linement? If you said, how are you on pass protection?
How about that? Is that a good smack talk? What
are your thoughts on past protection?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But I'll never forget. I think it was like my
second thirty year in the NFL. I went to a
bar back in my hometown and this guy came up
to me and he's like, uh ross.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I was like, yeah, he's like uh.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I went to Exeter, which is like a rival high school,
and I went back and I watched our game from
ninety five and I did pretty good against you. Like
how do I respond to that? I was like, cool,
it's awesome, man, Like I just pictured this guy. We're
like twenty five years old. Now it's two thousand and
(12:51):
three or two thousand and four, and I'm just picturing.
Like I wanted to ask him, like did you do
that with your girlfriend? Like or was that your parents?
Like who still had to tape the VHS tape that
you went back and watched and watch.
Speaker 10 (13:02):
His point, then I could have been an NFL player
just like you, if I.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Really wanted to think.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I think, you know, not that many people from like
a small town make the NFL, right, So I think
he was just curious as to how he did.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Against the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But like I was an NFL player, then I was
just a good ice school player, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But that's why it would be great to be Usain
Bolt because when you're outside of a restaurant ten years
ago and some dude walks up goes, I want to race.
You don't have to race. It's a fact that you're
already going to beat him. It's a fact. Like you
if you've got a fight, even when you were at
your peak with the bills and your big strong guy,
there's someone in that bar who might be able to
knock you out at the other if they got lucky.
Oh yeah, generally probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, I don't know nowadays, man.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Husain Bolt wasn't beatable in any type of race.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So I might have said this to you guys before.
I think Usain Bolt's the most impressive athlete of my
lifetime because any other sport you talk about, like NBA
or football, literally billions of people have never played it. Right,
Everybody that has legs and can run has ran at
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some point and they.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Know whether out they're fast.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So the fastest guy in Taiwan and the fastest guy
in California, like, they've all run at some point, they've
been in some type.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Of trial, and they for him to be that much
faster than every other.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
How many human beings are on the planet, like five billion,
six billion checking. Yeah again, I need fat stat checker
for Ain, like this fact checker that to me is
absolutely insane.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Set you know what I think it is too. That's
impressive about him. And like while you guys are talking
about like which one the strongest or the or the fastest? Yeah,
Yusain Bolt had that quote where he said I trained
four years to run nine seconds. That level of patience
to actually that, you know, that's the thing that I
don't know that I would be able to do, To
train for four years to just have this one moment
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or you know a couple of moments. How many races
does he race in the Olympics, three four, whatever it is?
Speaker 10 (15:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I know that there's ones leading up that get no attention.
I know there's all of these other things. But to
have that level of patience to train that long for
just this one moment is like superhuman tomake.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Is he still making money off of what he did?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh yeah, Like I'm saying Bolt, Like who pays him
to do? What?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Puma?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
He's a spokesman for Puma and a few other places.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Okay, See I went to Bermuda a few years ago
and as soon as we got off the plane. He
was there for like some like cell phone service I'd
never heard of. But then when you look it up,
it's like in every country in the world except ours,
you know what I mean. So he's internationally. I think
his celebrity is is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's still taking the business of being Usain Bolt is
still booming.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
I think it still works.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, okay, Well he got his estimated income per year
at least fifteen million dollars in endorsement. Wow, yep, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I ain't they have to run at all?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Now pay to not run?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do you do you think Usain Bolt has has run
one time since the last time you had you, like,
really run to see how fast he could do it.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I see him at some cherry trains.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Once in a while, you'll see him at a cherry thing
and someone will race him and he'll jog a few
steps and then give him a quick smoking and then
go all right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Gosh, that'd be so fun.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Quick before we break. Guess the world population who wants
a piece of it?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Six billion?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Oh, you're so low, that's so that's so twenty eleven.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I want to say it's seven, but that might have
been a few years ago.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
Closer, Marv lots of baby showers in Connecticut lately.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go eight. Well, he's
giving you hints.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I said six, and he said you're low. Seaton said seven.
He said closer.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
I mean, if you know seven and a half billion.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Marv said eight, like he was like pulling out in
the thin air.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Uh fritzy, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
Right in the middle, seven and a half billion between
the seven and eight.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I got the estimate over eight billion as of January
this year. In counting. By the way, it's not well
do you think it's going down? I think they say
an average increase of seventy five million per year.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Eight billion people, and nobody is close to as fast
as you saying Bolt.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, who is that possible?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
If you line them all up?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, if you like, all eight billion people and they
all ran you, Sain Bowlt would be all of us
by like five yards at least.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
That's how many Hamburgers McDonald's sold.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They always have that thing with over eight billion and
sold on a hamburg it's just the same number of people.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
It's Hamburger sold.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is impressive.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
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Game seven this evening. I cannot wait. It's been a long.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Time time since I watched an entire hockey game on TV.
At least I watch him in person all the time.
But I'm very much looking forward to watching tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
We're gonna say, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I want to save this till after Greg Cosel, but
I want you to think about this. What do you
do at home tonight if the big TV and the
rest of the family wants to watch something else. Save
your answer us ooh that could be a topic.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, I'm just gonna be in a hotel room here.
That doesn't really apply to me, lucky dog. But we
can talk about that. We can also talk with my
guy Greg co Sal He joins me every week on
the Ross Tucker Football Podcast forty five years at NFL Films.
I call him this civilian goat the greatest of all
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Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think this week we'll be previewing the NFC.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
South, but I know Greg has some interesting thoughts on
some of the quarterbacks that have been in the news lately.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Looking forward to talking with.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The guys about hockey next hour. But Greg, I want
to start with Trevor Lawrence because he just got a
contract for fifty five million dollars a year, and as
you and I always talk about, the money is the
money yep. When you think about Trevor Lawrence, and I
know you did a deep dive on him recently, what
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do you see? What do you think about him and
being paid at that elite level?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Well, just to start ross, as you know, I don't
have thoughts or or you know, or takes. I'm watching
the film, so it's it's you know, it's these are
not takes, your thoughts. The film tells you. And the
other thing I do, as you probably know, is I
talk to coaches as well, so I have great conversations
with them about what I see, what they and more
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often than not it pretty much is the same thing.
What I will say is this, when you look at quarterbacks.
One thing you have to be very aware of when
you talk about their ability to play the position is
you have to understand the difference between clean pockets when
everything is pristine and a quarterback can drop back and
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it's clean, there's no one around him, versus what happens
when the pocket gets a little muddied and noisy and
there's people around him. The really great quarterbacks, those are
not factors. They can perform at the same level ross regardless.
Lawrence is not quite there yet. Lawrence is a big kid,
good arm, not a power arm. Contrary to what people
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might think, he does not have a power arm. He's
got a good arm. One of the issues he has
is when he perceives and feels pressure, he starts to
play a little faster and he throws the ball not
quite as well. So he's got to continue to work
on that. People have to remember he's only going into
his fourth year, and some might suggest that his first
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year in the league was kind of a wash because
of the whole situation that he played under with urban Meyer,
and it just you know, it didn't obviously work out.
But you know, I think you're dealing with a guy
that's really athletic. He actually throws the ball really well
on the run, but he doesn't drive the football when
there are people around him, and he's going to have
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to get that figured out. He's a big body guy
who tends to be a strider and gets a little
elongated in his delivery. So these are just things that
he has to continue to work on.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, So, Greg, but when he came out, whether
it was high school or college, I mean, he was
talked about since he was maybe fifteen sixteen years old
as being like the next guy.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And I guess when I watch him, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, like, I don't think he He's obviously not
Mahomes or Josh Allen. I'm not even sure he's Herbert
or Matthew Stafford in terms of physical ability. Have we
because of his early success?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Okay, go ahead, He's not.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
And by the way, as you know, what he was
thought of when he was fifteen is not relevant to me,
and it's not relevant to NFL coaches, you know. Right now,
all Doug Peterson and Press Taylor want to do is
get Trevor Lawrence playing at the highest level he can play. Now.
He's gifted enough to be a quality NFL quarterback. The
question some will have, of course, is can he become
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one of those top three or top five guys. That
well remains to be seen. And by the way, you
don't need a power gun in order to be a
top three or top five quarterback in this league. But
there's certainly areas, as I said, where he needs to improve.
One thing I do really like about him is he's
an aggressive thrower ross. When he has sees one on
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one outside the numbers, he is delivered the football and
you need to do that in the NFL. It's really
hard to be a truly high level quarterback in this
league if you're not going to be aggressive throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What about the next two guys, Greg that seemed to
be up for these big contracts, Tua, Tungo Violoa, Yeah,
Jordan Love you can you do you think Tua is
a top five quarterback? Do you think he can be
a top five quarterback? What do you see from Tua?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
I would say that Tua is as good a window
thrower as there is in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
He has an.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Innate feel for underneath coverage and the timing of throws
between and behind coverage. Those window throws versus own is
what separates him from many quarterbacks in the NFL. His
sense of timing and anticipation is really really high level,
and so everything about his game is built off that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The question you have to.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
A ask yourself and believe me, this is what you know,
This is what coaches talk about, is where do you
stand when it comes to the ability to make second
reaction plays, make plays outside of the structure, or make
plays even late in the down in the pocket where
the ball can come out with timing and rhythm. Now,
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keep in mind that this is an offense that is
totally built on that, and because of the receivers they
have and the motion that they deploy, which is far
and away the most in the league. Very rarely is
the timing and rhythm disrupted. I mean Hill Waddle. Now
they'll have Beckham. These guys get off the ball, they're
not stopped, they are not pressed, they're not disrupted. So
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the timing and rhythm is there. So the speed of
Hill and Waddle is really problematic. It's tough to play
man coverage, it's tough to play single high safety coverage.
So therefore too for the most part, can play at
a high level point I want to make because people
always talk about deep throws. People have to understand, Ross,
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a fade is not a deep ball throw. A fade
is not an armstrained throw. He's a really good fade
ball thrower, but it's not an arm strained throw, and
it's not a deep ball throw.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know what's so interesting, Gregan, We're talking with my
guy Greg Cosel from NFL Films, who joins me every
week on the Ross Tucker Podcast.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
We become so obsessed with second reaction plays, right, and
guys that can drive the ball down the field or
run around and make plays. And you were saying that
that's not really Tua's game. I would say, Greg, for
like a decade, the three best quarterbacks were Tom Brady,
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Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees. And I don't only remember
seeing those three guys make a whole lot of second
reaction plays. I mean, most of what they did was
getting the ball out quick timing, in rhythm into windows, right.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
But there's there's one thing particularly Breeze and Brady more
so than Peyton. Peyton's just a different animal overall, But
Breeze and Brady were still very good what we call
late in the down ross in other words, they're not
leaving the pocket, but they could stay in the pocket
and they could make throws later in the down. In
other words, it didn't always have to be the precise
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timing and rhythm. They didn't leave the pocket to do it,
but they could do it from the pocket. But to
your point, different coaches have different views about the inherent
value of getting out of the pocket. There's a lot
of coaches that believe that the NFL game is now
such that to really become that guy, you know, a
top four or five guy in the league, that you
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have to be able to make those kinds of second
reaction plays because then you get into the playoffs and
you know, you start playing, you know, the better defenses.
Sometimes they take things away, and that's happened with Tua
at times. And you know, there's a lot of people
who believe that, hey, he's going to have to somehow
try to get beyond that. We'll see if he can.
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There are a difficult offense to defend, there's no question
about that. But he's certainly not a second reaction outside
of structure above the x's and o's whatever term you
want to use, that's not his game.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So one thing that I think was really interesting last week, Greg,
you said to me that you would be very, very
very surprised if Sam Donald doesn't start for the Minnesota
Vikings because JJ McCarthy has a lot a quote unquote
a lot to work on. I guess my question is
we kind of I feel like now that he's been
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with three teams, we kind of know what Sam Donald is.
Can you make the argument that if JJ McCarthy has
a lot to work on, that the Vikings would be
better off if he was playing and working on it,
as opposed to well, I mean, what does it how's
help you for the Vikings to have Sam donold Star games?
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What are you gonna do with same, especially in the
same division with the Packers and Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What does that do for you?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Maybe you want a couple more games, but shouldn't they
start to see what they have in McCarthy and get
him developed.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Well you know again that that's a very individual question.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Ross.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
That's easy from the outside for you and I or
anybody else to say, oh, well, just play McCarthy, But
you know, we don't know the specifics. I mean, I
have a pretty good idea just because you know people
I've spoken to, but we don't know the specifics of
what McCarthy is and isn't at this point. And you
certainly don't want to put a young quarterback out there
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that's truly not ready to play. And it's not just
a matter of making a mistake here and there. Ross
and you know this. I mean you played in the league.
If your quarterback can't really function for whatever reason, it
could be physical, it could be mental, we don't you know,
whatever reason, you can't really put him out there. I mean,
the Vikings do not have a bad football team. While
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we know what Donald is, you can still put Sam
Darnold out there and compete. Whether you can do that
with McCarthy, the feeling seems to be that you can't
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Now.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Obviously, they drafted him, I think it was eleventh if
I'm not mistaken, so they expect him to be their
starting quarterback. But I just my sense is and even
the tape tells you that he has much to work on. Look,
like I told you when we talked last week or
the week before, I can't remember. I know coaches in
the league that had a third round grade on McCarthy. Now,
obviously he was drafted eleven, so the expectations become sky
(30:36):
high and they're different.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But Greg, he didn't he start every game for three
years at Michigan, Like, if he's not ready, was it
three years?
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I thought?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I thought he started as a true freshman too. We
can go back and check, but I know he started
for two years.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I thought he started a bunch as a true freshman.
About Jim Harball, if he started that many college games
and he's not ready, I.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Can't speak to I'm not there. And again, you know,
Jim harboys jobs to win games, and he certainly did
that pretty well, just winning a national championship. So but
you know, as I said many times before the tape
with McCarthy, and by the way, McCarthy's another great example
of a guy that has a very good arm if
you just watch him throwing shorts and a T shirt.
But when you put him in a game and there's
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people around him, that all changes. So there's things that
he needs to work on. They'll decide when he's ready,
But I would doubt that he'd be the week one starter.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You also, I think a couple weeks ago, Greg had
mentioned that you were talking with a coach about NFC
quarterbacks and you talked about who's the best NFC quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And that you both right away said Stafford.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So over guys like Golf or Hurts or party are
you do you feel confidence and you think that Stafford's
the best quarterback in the NFC?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And why Yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Think Matthew Stafford's one of the most overlook overlook quarterbacks
in the last decade, if not more. He is a high,
high level talent. He's played really really well. He obviously
was on a bad team for a year, so he
was never talked about. But Stafford is incredibly intelligent, really talented.
(32:16):
I you know, he's incredibly respected in the league. I
mean he's he's a really high level traits quarterback, a
high level mental quarterback. He's just a really really good quarterback.
I mean you talk to people in the league and
in their mind he's a top five quarterback without question.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That is awesome, great stuff. Greg always appreciate talking with you,
whether it's here or on my show The Rosstucker Podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Check him out on social media.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The NFL films legend forty five years breaking down the
tape back when it was actually tape.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's at Greg Cosal.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Thank you Greg, Thanks Ross, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
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Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:43):
We are going hockey heavy next hour, and with good reason.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Those guys, it's gonna be like their skates aren't even
touching the ice. It's gonna be like their flying around
the ice. I cannot wait. Jason Demerz from NHL Network
join us at the top of the hour, and then
Maddy Rose, who's a radio host in Calgary. He's gonna
come and talk about the other Canadian cities and how
(34:18):
they're feeling about the Oilers potentially winning the cup. Big
rivalry between Calgary and Edmonton. This is the time of
the show, though, before we get back to your calls
eight seven seven to three DP show, or look at
some of your social posts at DP show or to
me at Ross Tucker NFL, I want to know the
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best and worst of the weekend from the guys.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I will start.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I don't know why I feel like when I'm starting,
it's like I always want to go upper left.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Fritzie's upper left.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
We can do that.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm gonna switch it up, Fritzi. I'm gonna start. If
I'm upper left, I'm gonna go lower right instead with Marvin.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
All right, thanks Ross. Best of the weekend.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I got two best angel rees twenty five point sixteen rebounds,
the Fever lost to the sky. It should be fevers. No,
I think it's good with just fever. Other best of
the weekend. I read over the weekend. Yeah, definitely breaking
news Friday night Lights. This is my first time reading
(35:27):
Friday night Lights.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
What I mean, you read the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
No?
Speaker 9 (35:29):
No, no, maybe about a quarter of the way through,
and it is wild. So far this is more incredible.
It is like, well, this is not the movie, this
is not the TV show. I mean, it was as
real as it gets to the worst the weekend. Oh
that was two Best. Oh you're yes, it is buzz.
(35:51):
Are you so you're allowed to do that?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah? Just do two Best and they can.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
It's loose here. You're like a substitute host.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I was thinking about this with that fever sky. By
the way, if the fever this is like a fritzy thing.
But if the fever are like playing well or the
fever running hot right, hit the thinger.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
What's that called rim shot?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Rim shot?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And why is that what you do when it's like
a dad joke or like a not really funny.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Like old Hollywood comedians like, hey guys, I'm at the copa.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
They like the Polcono's or whatever. That was the spot
where all the hot entertainers went and heck.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
My wife please.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But who was who was the first person that ever
did that and made that a thing checking you know
what I mean, Like, at some point somebody was the
first one to tell a dumb joke and hit the
symbol whatever it's called. And then that just became like
for the rest of eternity, that guy's a legend.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Okay, quick history lesson drummer. Drummer gene Krupa is credit
was inventing the rim shot. He used it as a
punchline of being jokes with comedians that opened for his
He would sit in back and the cat skills of
someone mentioned and they would do little rim shots when
the comedians played before the band went on. Gene Krupa
famous drummer.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
All right, and here's my question about what Marvin said.
I was thinking about this driving here this morning, driving
three hours and twenty minutes here this morning. Is Angel
Reese and Caitlin Clark. Are they have the potential to
be like the Larry Bird Magic Johnson of the WNBA,
(37:33):
Or is it more like Caitlin Clark is Michael Jordan
and Angel Reese is like Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Or maybe it's a hybrid. Maybe like is it true.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The dynamic and play, you know, white person against a
black person in great rivalry and that whole deal is like,
is that what's fueling the growth or is it really
just Caitlin Clark and actually I don't I'm too young
as I don't remember this when with the Larry Bird
Magic Johnson thing was one of them, Like was it
(38:09):
more magic and Larry just had like the racial dynamic
or was it Like those guys were fifty to fifty
partners in this.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
They were both National Players of the Year in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So they were true fifty to fifty. Because Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark they're not like true fifty to fifty partners.
It's like seventy five twenty five.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I feel like, right, they have a different style of
game completely. They play different positions and Reese was never
a phenom as far as like the way she played.
There was a unique like a Steph Curry deep shooter.
But she's been a great player going back to since
she was at Maryland as a post player, a rebounder,
a good post scorer.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But it's well, I love her game.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, she's just and energy rebounds. Like like if she
played in the NBA, she would get paid a lot
of money.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But the I think we're out of the past. Four Sundays,
their game Fever Sky been on National TV, one was
on CBS, CBS not even CBSSN.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
All right, so what's your what's your best and worst?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Bully Best of the weekend? Paul Skian's The Pirates. You know,
I'm not even a Pirates fan, but it feels like
it's been a long time since we've had an appointment
programming pitcher say that five times. Yeah, that was good
with Major League Baseball because of the emphasis of the
starting pitcher and not going deep. Yeah, you have to
go back to Strasbourg or Max Schurzer when he was
coming up that you were like, I'm going to make
(39:30):
an appointment to tune into this guy if he's on
National TV or you find his game. So that's really
cool the appointment.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I feel it. Did Strasburg have a good career.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
He had exactly a good career. He didn't have like
he's not flirting with the Hall of Fame, got it.
He had he had two really good years, so.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He didn't become what people thought he could become.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
He had some injuries early injuries, yeah, injuries late My
worst of the weekend Marvin kind of said it. When
you're watching the Track and Field trials and you watch
a man a woman finished fourth out of four people
out of eight people and the top three get in
to the Olympics and they finish it by like a
body length, and they show the other three people celebrating,
(40:11):
and they see them sitting down just thinking what are
they doing tomorrow? What are they doing next week? Do
they have to go back to work? Can they are
they training for free year defeat I free?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
The Olympic Trials are phenomenal. They're absolutely great to watch.
I watched a lot of the swimming. I didn't see
as much of the track and field, but they it's
you just see because you get somebody who's like, hey,
here's eighteen year old Jimmy Lipper who's hoping for his
first chance. And then on the other side you have,
you know, here's thirty two year old Tommy Mouth there,
this is his last chance to get in. The storylines
(40:45):
are unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So I want to go to the Olympics or Olympic
Trials real bad one time.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I want to sit there, like in the front row
while they're swimming and just see how fast they're really swimming,
you know, or like see how fast I've never been
to a tennis match, Like I want to go to
the US Open sometime and just see how hard do
they really hit the ball? Fritzi, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Best of the weekend The Twins Bailey ober needing only
eighty nine pitchers for a complete game win in ten
k's to beat the A's ten to two on Saturday,
and Oakland went off the board a little bit there. Worst,
staying with baseball, the Nationals losing the bottom of the
night because their pitcher Kyle Finnegan had a bases loaded
pitchclock violation.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
At the Rockies. Colorado scored two runs and they last
about eight to seven.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Win first game decided by a pitchclock violation in Major
league history.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Nats close.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
If Finnegan leads the league with nine pitch clock violations
this season, what the heck, Holly.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
That's a clock off. Be careful saying it. Be careful
saying clock off.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I'm not gonna say, how do you have nine of them?
If you're finningg in?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean, figure it out, man, one more out to go.
There's a clock. Throw the ball, dude, there's a clock yetah,
throw it.
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