December 3, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan is still wondering what Penn State was thinking when they fired HC James Franklin without a real plan to replace him after Kalani Sitake turned down their job and re-signed with BYU. And college football insider Chris Fowler drops by to talk about the latest drama surrounding the College Football Playoff as we await the results of the conference championship games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's out ward IWO on this Wednesday Dan and the
Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. We're fully assembled because Seatan
is back from his European vacation. Thank you, Tom, I
got it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I missed out on the clap the first time.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I wasn't gonna miss it the second time.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So we're fully assembled. Todd is here, Seaton's here, Marv
Paul yours truly in the BRGS. And it's a national
signing day. Great day for BYU keeping their coach. Not
so good of a day with Penn State. We'll talk
to Chris Fowler, the voice of college football. He will
join us coming up here in a little bit. Also,
this Thursday night football game looks really really interesting. It
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feels playoff like, you know, if the Cowboys maybe had
one more win now all of a sudden, now they
can really get into the playoff picture. The Lions. The
Lions concerned me here because you know, you keep waiting
for you know, teams they flip a switch. Well, I
think we like to think that happens, but it doesn't.
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I think the Texans may have done that now they
got the Chiefs coming up this weekend. But the Lions
against the Cowboys, now, it's a must win for the
Cowboys to keep this story alive. It's a must win
for the Lions as well because the Bears have the
best record in the NFC and you got Green Bay
who has I think top five odds to win the
Super Bowl now and it feels like they're kind of
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figuring out who they are and Jordan Love has played
really well. This gets into that must win situation for
the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yes, Paul, going back to Dallas, if Dallas can be
the Lions, they had the Vikings Chargers, Commanders Giants. That's
pretty winnable in their current state.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And how many wins. Let's say they win three of
those games. What do they have six wins right now?
They six five and one. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I got the Cowboys at six five and one. If
they could get ten wins, obviously you need some help
with the tie break, but that tie can help them.
That they had our elms season.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, the AFC is more wide open than the NFC.
But yeah, that's a spicy game coming up tomorrow night.
Andrew Whitworth, former offensive lineman. He works for Amazon Prime.
He'll be working that game. He'll join us coming up
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trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. We got the
rankings that have come out, and I think it's the
potential for I don't want to say chaos, but certainly
concerned for some schools and Notre Dame and BYU because
for a while we were comparing Notre Dame and Miami.
I've got the resume comparison here Notre Dames ten and
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two BYUS eleven and one conference record BYU eight and
one Notre Dame not into conference strength schedule BYU thirty five.
Notre Dame forty two. Strength of record BYU is sixth,
Notre Dame is thirteen. Best win USC for Notre Dame,
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number fifteen Utah for BYU. Worst loss at Miami for
Notre Dame, worst loss at number five Texas Tech BYU
still has Texas Tech coming you. Is your microphone on seating?
You know it's funny. I went to turn it off
and I turned it on instead.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Sorry, I got a little bit of a cough too,
Thank you, Thank you, Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, Marvin, if you're in Notre Dame, another team you
can root for is Duke. Now, if Duke eliminates Virginia,
the ACC might not have anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Duke is playing in the conference title
game with five losses. Right, all right, we'll get to
your phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three
DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a
DP show. We spoke with Bill Cower this week and
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we were talking about the booing that Mike Tomlin faced
after the loss at home against Buffalo, and I did
like what Cower said, he goes. You know, I'd see
people out on the street and if they said, hey, coach, hi,
coach how are you coach that? I thought, okay, I'm
don'ing okay. When they would walk by in whisper, then
I knew I was in trouble. He said, whenever we
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lost a game, I never stopped to get gasoline. Never,
because I knew that I is going to get an
earfall from the Steeler fans. Here's Mike Tomlin talking about
the fans booing and chanting for him to get fired.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
In general, I agree with him from this perspective. Football
is our game. We're in a sport entertainment business. And
so if you root for the Steelers, entertaining them is winning.
And so when you're not winning is not entertaining. And
if you've been in this business, you understand that, and
so I respect it. I share frustrations. I understand what
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makes this thing go, and winning is what makes this
thing go.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, I respect that. Let me. Let me throw something
out there, and there's nothing attached to this. The last
thing I want to do is bring up any kind
of rumor with Mike Tomlin, because I did that one
time with USC's wish list that he was on the list.
He had no interest in going there. I was just
telling people This is how crazy you know they're they're
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searching high and wide to get their next head coach. Okay,
that was a while ago. What if Mike Tomlin and
the Steelers parted ways mutual parting? You knew who would
call him right away? The Cleveland Browns would call him
right away. There would be the New York Giants would
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call it. There would be a line of teams that
would say, hey, we got our coach, but we can
get that coach. And this might be a situation where
Mike says, I'm going to do some TV. Maybe I'd
do a couple of years here. He might find that
he likes it an awful lot. He's not an old guy.
Was he fifty four? Maybe fifty five? But you could
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go into TV and maybe spend a couple of years
in there, and then you can pick and choose what
your you know, where you want to go, where you
want to live. How old is he, PAULI, he's fifty three. Okay,
so that's young. But you know you're in a city
that demands greatness because they've seen greatness. You've provided some
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of that greatness. They've just never been bad enough for
him to lose his job. If you're always nine and
eight or when they played sixteen games eight and eight, No.
Nine and seven, you can keep your job. But getting
into the playoffs but not winning in the playoffs is
unacceptable when you haven't won a playoff game since twenty
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sixteen and you're the constant. That's where I think. And
Ben Roethlisberger said, hey, they might have to look at
cleaning house. This is from Ben, but imagine if how
would the Steeler fans feel if Tomlin went to the Browns?
Because you can't rule that out. Feels like Kevin Stefanski
is trying to coach for his job here, but if
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the Bengals brought him in. I mean, these are all
scenarios that I think would be realistic.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes, Mark, But if you're Mike Tomlin, what would entice
you to go to the Browns of all teams?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, if you want to coach again and you could
go in there, you got an unbelievable defense. Really, they
the Browns aren't that far away. I know it sounds
crazy to say that, but Okay, you got to find
your quarterback, and that's a big find. I get that.
But if you get a couple of pieces, then all
of a sudden, with that defense, you're gonna get people's attention,
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and he might look at that, or he might say, hey,
look at the Bengals in that offense. Hey, I'll build
a defense to go along with that offense. Maybe you know,
he just says I'm going to go, you know, be
a TV analyst, which you know, he might like it.
He might find out that, you know, Sean McVay is
going to be a great analyst. At some point, probably
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gets one more super Bowl, Super Bowl appearance, and then
he's probably going to go, hey, I can go dominate,
you know, in the broadcasting booth or a studio show.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, Paulie, I want to say that Mike Tomlin should
pass on all AFC North jobs they come available. But
if the Bengals job, the healthy Joe Burrow becomes available,
I would make my pick based off the quarterback and
Brown's you know, you can't go to the Ravens and
not going to be open. But that Bengals job if
it did come open, Oh my gosh, what about the Giants?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, what about the New York Giants? I mean, you
got some players there. As long as Abdul Carter shows
up at meetings, Jackson Dart gets out of bounds. Yeah, Seaton, Yeah,
you know that Bengals job is interesting.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
It's a good chance to win with somebody else's players,
step right into a good situation.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Would there be mutual interest with the Raiders or Dolphins
and Mike Tomlin if you want to stay in the
AFC and Mike McDaniel, Lee's I know the Dolphins have
been playing well lately and the Raiders are a disaster
and they got a lot of rebelling to do, but
maybe this Pete Carroll experiment is a one and done.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Of course there would be interest. I mean, he's a
Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Would he want to go to one of those teams?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh? Well, I don't know. I don't know Mike Tomlin
at all. I don't think he's ever been on the show.
He's been asked before, but he's never been on the show.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You know how the analysts always say, the next head
coach you hire, you want to be the opposite of
the one you're firing. Mike Tomlin is the opposite of
the Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. I mean he
is a tough guy to the point, gritty football guy.
No nonsense, he's not. He doesn't look like the IT
guy with the quirky statements.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
John and Philly, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Hey? Dan? Six foot one eighty five as mentioning, you
were talking about Mike Tomlin and he would get his
ticket a litter if he would ever get let go
by the Steelers, And I as the Steelers fan, you know,
I feel like he is a bit overrated in the
sense of having basically two separate careers in the last
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fifteen years. He's won three playoff games and they were
against Matt Moore, AJ McCarron and Alex Smith. Not the
greatest resume in regards of postseason in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right, well, thank you, John. I still think there
will be a lot of teams in line. He's an upgrade.
He's an upgrade on those other coaches in those positions.
The question is what does he want? What's Pittsburgh going
to do? I mean, they got to find their quarterback.
They haven't had a quarterback since Ben and you know,
the defense isn't as formidable as it once was. It
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feels like they get receivers, they don't keep receivers. Yeah, Paulie,
we were talking.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
About a month ago best state for football, Worst state
for football, the current state of football in the state
of Pennsylvania. Now, the Eagles are defending champs, but they
don't feel like they're going back. Penn State is a
real mess this week, and the Steelers non threatening.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Rich in South Dakota, Hi, Rich, what's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (11:51):
And eighty as a lifetime in Nebraska fans. I feel
like Penn State is mirroring what Nebraska did back in
two thousand when they fired Solidge. I think Peters from
the AD thought, hey, I'm going to have a list
of people I can choose from, and I come in
the office on Monday and they had to settle for
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Bill Callahan. And they haven't been relevant six I think
Penn State really needs be careful with their next tire
on there, because they could be the next Nebraska football program.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Thank you, Rich, great reference. I thought Frank Solich was
a really good head coach and then Nebraska fires eam
he goes to Ohio University. I thought he was a
really good coach. I do, but yeah, Penn State, you
know National Signing Day. This is the kind of thing
that reverberates, not only this upcoming season, the season after that,
and you're really going to have to dive into transfer portal,
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going to spend some money. But and maybe they have
a game plan. I have a couple of friends went
to Penn State and they're like, you wait and see.
So every time there's news that somebody's not going to
Penn State, I'll go I'm still waiting to see. And
then you had Kalanie Sataki, the BYU coach who said
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no to Penn State. So I'm going to keep an
eye on that as we all will. Uh kenon Ohio,
Hi Ken, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (13:20):
Good morning, Dan h best to all of the boys
in the ICU ward. I hope you all get stealing
better soon. Got a couple I guess I have a
comment about this whole Lane Kiffin thing. I think the
best thing that could happen to Lane is that nobody
wants to sign with him because the man lacks character.
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You know, we hear all the time how coaches are
trying to build men out of young men and form
formulate their character and who they're going to be and
if I'm a senior wanting to sign or somebody to move,
why would I want to go to a coach that
he can't make up his own mind? He committed to
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anything and his characters in question.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Ken, Maybe forty years ago i'd buy into that. Maybe
thirty years ago, maybe twenty years ago. Not now. These
kids are going They want their nil, They want to
know if they're playing, Hey, can that guy get me
to the next level? Get me to the pros. I
don't think there's any loyalty. I don't think there's any allegiance.
I don't think it's I'm building men, you know, Yeah,
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I'm building their character. I mean this all sounds good
from yesteryear in a different generation. It's just not applicable now. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Well, I think if we're going by is his name Ken,
I think Ken, if the only way to build character
is through being a perfect person, then no.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
One's building any character, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I think that Lane Kiffin might be bringing kids
in and helping develop them into young men. That doesn't
mean that everything he's going to do in his life
is perfect. That doesn't mean that he now has to
stay at this one place or he will forever be
a hypocrite or some type of moral less, characterless guy. Yeah,
he got a chance to jump to a marquee job.
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He's striking while the iron's hot. It's something that he's
done his entire career. He's done that every single step
of the way. This isn't anything new for him or
for pretty much any coach that's out there right now.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So I think that we got.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
To chill a little bit with the This guy's got
no spine and he's a turds kind of talk.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like easy dude. I don't know if he's been described
that way. That was the subtext of what Chemo said. Subtext, Yeah,
I read into it. Yes, Marvin, he.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Was described as something else over the weekend. But I'm
not going to say it on it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But bro, all right, we'll take a break. Rhymes with
bruh oh. Yeah that's right. Well, it is the holiday season.
Ho ho ho. Chris Fowler is going to join us
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You know, whatever you see the play by play guy,
you listen to him on the broadcast. You know, Pat
Summer all murder, She wrote, I always wanted to do
one of those promos during a big game, like someone
is guilty, No one is innocent. In a new drama series,
He's all her fault. The seemingly perfect families world is
(17:03):
shattered when their young son goes missing. Streaming now only
on Peacock. What do you think, Bunny?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Except on the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Chris Fowler gets to do that. ESPN College Football tennis
host commentator. He's got the big games, He's got the
SEC championship game coming up, he's got to have the
Heisman ceremony, the national title. Did you ever have one
of those moments where during a game, you have to
do a promo for something coming up on ABC.
Speaker 13 (17:35):
Nothing good is murder, she wrote, I mean I would
like to do a dramatic show. We get money at football,
we get the Tuesday CFP ranking show. It's hard to,
you know, bring the gravitass to that, Dan, It's hard
to lay the drama on with those kind of promos.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I kind of wish we had, you know, even like
Dancing with the Stars. I mean, you can. You don't
get a lot of.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
All Right, your initial reaction to the rankings was what.
Speaker 13 (18:06):
Notre Dame's worried? I actually just spoke to Marcus Freeman
about some other things. But you know, them dropping down
a spot, Alabama beating Auburn a tough rivalry game, great
win for them, but not an overwhelming performance has some
notre name people nervous. Hey, these games are all interconnected
on Saturday in ways that not everybody fully understands and
ways we haven't quite seen before. Okay, so you get
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that Big twelve championship game. People are going to be
closely watching whether Texas Tech beats BYU for a second time.
If that happens, I know what the commissioner they twelve says,
but I think BYU's case would be really damaged. Both
losses would be the Texas Tech, but a second loss
with BYU's resume would probably be fatal in my view,
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based on what the committee has done. If they win
that game, Texas Tech's not going to fall out of
the bracket and Byu would be big twelve champions. That
would make a lot of people sweat the ACC championship game.
You know, a seven win Duke team wins a six
way tiebreak. I have no idea how the ACC determines
the tiebreak. They maybe you should consider going forward just
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using the CFP rankings, which would have Miami in that
game clearly a better team than most of those teams
they're tied with with those two conference losses. But if
Duke wins, stand din I guarantee anything the ACC Virginia
solid if they went But if Duke pulls a mild upset,
and I think they got a chance.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
To do that, what are you gonna do? I mean,
is the ACC going to be totally left out of
this practet?
Speaker 13 (19:31):
Politically that'd be tricky, but the champion would be guaranteed
nothing in Miami. Maybe isn't that large team might help
their case. We don't know, because some of this stuff
is unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
How much does brand play in this? Do you think
in the minds of the committee that Notre Dame's brand
How important is that?
Speaker 13 (19:51):
He asked your viewers, they would say it's everything. I
mean they think that ESPN's pulled in the strings. We
want the biggest brands. I promise you we have played
no part in that. I don't go in the committee's
mind if it plays a part. People just sort of
assume that Notre Dame is an elite program and when
they have ten wins, it must be a really great team.
And I think this is a really good team. But
I think you'd have to go member my member and
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really get them to give them some truth serum and
ask them if it matters Notre Dame Miami versus BYA
or somebody else. I mean, I think statements have been
made where non big brand teams have been given the nod.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
You know, SMU was in there.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
TCU got into a four team bracket when they made
the championship game. I mean, I think you could shoot
down the arguments and oh, it's always the same teams.
Alabama didn't jump up because they're Alabama. I think they
jumped up because the question of excluding a team that
makes the SEC Championship game and then loses after beating
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Georgia on the road in the regular season is pretty tricky, right,
Even though that would be the first free loss team
to get in, Alabama wouldn't be in because it's a
big In my opinion, you're never gonna like dissuade the
conspiracy theorists because they're everywhere.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
But that's just my view.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What is Penn State doing?
Speaker 13 (21:13):
Oh, you're not comfortable if you're a Penn State fan
waiting like fifty three days after firing your coach, then
I have another one in place. When all the teams
around you were going boom boom boom. Deal done, deal, done,
deal done, including Michigan State, which I don't know one
they took l I mean they got their guy in Fitzgerald.
We'd been mentioned at Penn State. I don't know what
they're doing. I think fans get really nervous in this
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modern landscape. Today's signing day, the portal is coming up.
Penn State's a really attractive job.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It's a challenging job. As you know, it's the deep
end of the pool and the Big ten, competing with.
Speaker 13 (21:48):
The with the dollars and the commitment made by Ohio State,
Michigan and the West Coast schools. I think Penn State
fans would say, wait a minute, we take a backseat
to No. One in terms of commitment and resources. And
that's what makes it a pretty good job. But I
don't know what the hesitation has been. I mean, you know,
James Franklin gets fired, he's already got his next job,
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and I think he's taken four commits to Virginia attach
and that's the concern. You know, in this modern yere
Dan people don't really fully understand this. It's really the
roster that is the asset for the program. The coaches
are very important because the coach has to play a
big part in assembling the roster and then creating the
culture where you get these mercenary guys out of the
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portal who actually will blend and mash as a team.
I'm not downplaying that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Well.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
When you talk about a program of the money people
that pay for the roster and hire these consultants that
pay a millions to help them assemble a roster a
sign of value to this guy. They know, Hey, this
defense at back at UAB has this analytical grade on
every single play of his season. Here's his rating as
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a player, Here's how we would fit our program, Here's
what we should pay him. They have that information to
work with for virtually every guy in college football.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It's crazy. I've seen the grafts on each player, and so.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
When those guys make those investments in the roster, that's
what their ego tied to. That's what they're invested in,
literally financially and ego wise.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And the roster almost becomes more important.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
To keep than the coach, if you know what I mean,
Because you get they figure to get a guy to
coach this roster. But assembling this roster and paying what
we've invested, you think the coaches are well paid. These
rosters are like twenty twenty five thirty million bucks. That's
not really talked about enough. You better It's like pro sports, right,
you can cover and be able. The roster is really
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bigger than the coach.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm talking to Chris Fowler. He'll be on the call
the SEC title game that'll be at four eastern Saturday
on ABC also the Heisman Trophy ceremony December thirteenth, and
also the national title game as well. Kiffin to LSU.
More about Lane Kiffin or the hiring structure windows of
college football.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Well, the schedule is a problem, but that doesn't that's
not his reason for going to LSU. You want to
be mad at Lane Kiffer and failing an ole miss
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
It's not the schedule's fault.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
The schedule sets up to create messy situations, right.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
You can't have signing.
Speaker 13 (24:19):
The playoff, and the portal basically compressed within one month,
all coinciding, coming and going all the time. The coaching
carousel is only going to spend more and more, is
what I was talking about with the rosters. You can't
live with this roster. We'll get someone who can. So
that's not going to change going forward. We're gonna have
a messy situation every year. They could clean up some
of it by maybe a more logical schedule. That's a
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longer conversation. You know, Kiffin did what most coaches would do.
Giffen did what Pete Carroll and Nick Saban told him
to do basically, and what or advised him to do.
I'll put it that way and what he thought his
late dad, Monty would have wanted him to do. And
LSU has resources. They won championships with pre coaches.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Oh Miss, I think he could do it there too,
but it's more of a leap of faith.
Speaker 13 (25:05):
I like Lane and ole Miss. I'm disappointed for their program.
I hope they make a nice run in the playoff
with Pete Golding as coach. But Lane is not the
villain who's symbolic of everything wrong with the sport.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Fans they're going to think that they're going to root.
Speaker 13 (25:18):
For LSU to lose every game by fifty, which they won't,
by the way.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
But you know, he did what most coaches would do.
And I think the old narrative about ripping players or coaches.
Speaker 13 (25:31):
For making business decisions, in other words, taking more money
to go somewhere else. You got to get past that.
That's outdated. It's kind of tired and lazy to me.
It's the reality of the situation.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
You be mad about it.
Speaker 13 (25:41):
You can say college football has been ruined by the portal,
by ESPN, whoever you want, but that's just whining and pitching.
Coaches no longer do that. They understand the nature of things.
And I think fans need to as well. It's not
your grandfather's college football, your dad's either It is what
it is, like it or not.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
It's very, very close to the structure of pro sports.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I said it quite a few times the last
couple of days. I don't begrudge him for taking the job.
It's a great job to take. It's sort of the
way he took it and the mess that he left behind.
And you want to go back and coach, but all
they won't let me coach, and you know, don't play
victim here. Don't don't do that.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
He said, he think the viility. He's not a victim.
You can't want to coach the team you go to
an arch rival.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
If you don't know, folks, that's a bitter rivalry that
he left Ole Miss for it for a school that
LSU considers Old Miss their little brother and the neighborly
thing there. I mean, you can't. You can't have both.
And and at most schools would do what Ole Miss.
I know Tulamee some stay that's a whole different situation.
They're not in the playoff yet, they have to they
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have some work to do. But I think that. I
don't begrudge all missed. I feel badly for their players,
I really do. That's why I think I hope they
make a nice run. It'd be a great story if
ole Miss could say, hell with Kevin, we're gonna rally
around Pete Golding and go make or run there.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
But but you know, and I like Lane.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
I think he's been the best coach he's ever been
by far at ole Miss the last six years, and
the happiest person that he's been. So that that to me,
that's why it's a little bit bittersweet. But I you know,
easily got hire at LSU, got a great chance to
win a championship. I said in a video I posted,
he's gonna get fired at LSU. He's gonna get They
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fire everybody unless you're Nick Saban.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Saban wins and goes to the Dolphins. He probably would
have kept winning and he stayed there.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Nick Saban is kind of an outlier, right, But LSU
fires two coaches who win championships and not that far
after they won, him Miles.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
And the Oris run.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
So even if you win a championship down there and
then you fall off because maintaining consistent excellence in this
landscape with the portal is really really hard to do.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
So you're gonna have a big year, and expectation is
gonna be through the roof.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
And then you're gonna You're gonna let it down and
then nobody's patient. So I think whatever Lane does there,
it'll be probably messy when it ends. His exits tend
to be messy, and even even his knowledge that right,
some guys just.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Make a clean break and off the next so nobody
gets mad at him Lane. When Lane leaves, it gets messy.
It's just you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Lane talked about the Nick Saban advising him. Should Saban
on College game Day this weekend acknowledge that he was
guiding him to or told him to leave Old miss
as Lane Kiff and his talking should should he be
saying that since he's on the premier college you know
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football program, and you're the most one of the most
powerful people, and you are guiding Lanekiffin to take the
LSHU job. Should that have been disclosed or will it
be disclosed?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Will it be disclosed?
Speaker 13 (28:48):
I have no idea, but you think I should advise
Nick Saban and what to tell people?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, if I'm reise Davis. I got to ask the question,
Chris Well.
Speaker 13 (28:56):
No, I am saying I think he didn't tell him
to leave a miss to clarify that. He just laid
out for him what his opinion was of the opportunity
to win a national championship in either places, as I
understand it so and he wouldn't be the only one
to lay out that argument. Again, as I said, it's
been done in LSU by three different coaches, not that
not that much time, and it hasn't been an old miss.
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I think that that's a little bit less relevant in
the modern system because you can win a championship at
Texas Tech.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
They might do it.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
I mean they're not favored to, but they are capable
of winning a championship. You know, look TC, you got
to the championship game. Ole Miss can make a deep run.
I don't think you have to be one of the
biggest brands because you can. You can spend like the
big brands did. That's what Texas Tech has done. And
the path in the Big twelve is is less rugged
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than other conferences. But I don't think ole Miss would
be incapable of winning a national championship.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's advising him This is Lane saying that he's the
one who said you got to take the job. All
of us.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
I think that Pete Carroll advice.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
But Saban's the guy who is doing college football. He
doing game Day.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
I think Saban wisdom is massively respected by every single
coach in the business, including Land of course, who worked
for him. So I think that, you know, offline with
conversation they had. That's that's for Nick to share or not.
But you know, I think he I think Nick coach
at LSU, won a championshipdel he does care about the program,
and I think he's well acquainted with the landscape down there,
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the challenges of it. Again, he won and then went
to the Dolphins, which didn't make LSU fans that happy,
made him even more unhappy when he came back and
coached Alabama and then beat him. So I mean Nick
Nick Nick and LSU have an interesting relationship, but he
did win a championship and he's acknowledged as the greatest
coach of all time. I think by there are people
so I don't know. I think you can't put it
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on that. You know, Lane made his own choice. You
get advice and whoever you want, you take it to
whatever degree you want and uh, and you use.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
It, but you can't. You can't say that he's the
reason that Lam made his decision.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I mean, I thought it was conflict of interest there
because he's on the individual.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Because he's on game day.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
If you had any idea, if you had any idea,
the number of calls that you feel from people in
the sport asking your opinion and advice on coaches on everything,
I mean, you have to really, Nick, Nick is not
my position, you know, if you're if you're on the
panel as a as a.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Pundit, I think it's different.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Nick Nick is still an all time great coach, But
the connection is all of the sport and a coach
at the place we're talking about. That's not the same
thing as as somebody calling Reese or Dez or Kirk
or me or in whatever, Pat McAfee. You know, it's
it's different. I get asked those questions all the time.
I'm not comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
It, and I try to say out of it because.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
My opinion whether a guy would be a good coach
fit at their place should not be factor into the
decision that somebody makes.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
In my view, I just start to stay out of that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
How dangerous is Georgia They seem to be lost in
the shuffle here of you know, when we're talking about
great I don't know if they're a great team, but
how do you assess how good they are this year
compared to what Kirby's had in previous years, not as talented.
Speaker 13 (32:21):
As those teams that win championships that had like the
whole to phill up the Eagles defense on them, they
had like eight first round guy, those ridiculous. You're not
going to ever see a defense as good as Georgia
had in those years, in my opinion, the way we're
trending in this sport, they find ways, though, Dan, I mean,
Kirby knows how to get a team to hit its
stride at this part of the season. And that's priceless
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because that's the thing that coaches struggle with. It comes
from the physicality, the toughness that you learn from day one.
You get to Georgia. They're really banged up. Their center,
Drew Bobo is out. I don't think he's going to
be able to go again, and certainly not playing Saturday,
and to lose your center is a really tough loss.
Everybody's beat up. Alabama's walking wounded. But Georgia is a tough,
(33:05):
tough out.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
They're hard to kill, as they like to say, and
being hard to kill is really priceless in the postseason.
I mean, they're just like an NFL team. You can
call them like the Chiefs right that.
Speaker 13 (33:15):
It doesn't matter the regular you get them in that
bracket and shit, you don't want to play them, and
nobody wants to play Georgia.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I mean, they're a tough out. Are they going to
overwhelm you offensively?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Are they going to allow you allow three points a game?
On defense? No, They've been a little bit more vulnerable,
especially early in games.
Speaker 13 (33:34):
But the way they're playing defense now, the way they
played against Georgia Tech, I don't expect a scoring infest
against Alabama. George is going to be hard to beat
and it'll be interesting to see where they, you know,
get match up. But I know no one wants to
see them opposite your team in the bracket.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Great to catch up with you. State's fired up, now,
come on, this is the biggest time of the year.
This when you got to perform.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Chris, do I not look fired up today?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
You do you do. But but but what, no, no,
did you get a lift in today?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
You know I didn't get it. I didn't get a
cold plunge in.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
I did three minutes of thirty eight degrees in the backyard,
but we got the landscape.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
I can't get out there yet. But once the col
we'll get a lift. I don't know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
You didn't you didn't felt I was fired up, But
I'm fired up. Don't give you.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I don't know. Every day is super Bowl for me.
I mean, I'm on my deathbed here. I mean, I'm
barely able to talk. But uh, I mean you know this,
you know you.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You play hurt. I will, I will.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
I have a nobody cares if I have knee surgery
on Monday, So I'll get through that.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I'll be at the highestman. You gotta do what you
gotta do, and you're You're a great example of that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So I'll talk to you.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
A great health.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Fowler. He's tough. He'll be
on the call for the SEC title game coming up
this weekend. I think I had should surgery and came in.
I did that Friday, came in Monday. I mean just
saying colon Osca Bey Sports Hernia did that came back
the next day. So we're gonna run down the resume
(35:14):
hashtag warrior, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, you would think that Foller would schedule the surgery
for the offseason, a nice March surgery between tennis events.
But no, that's a warrior or two. Okay, I appreciate
that every day. Super Bowl. All right, we'll take a break.
We'll come back after this. More phone calls as well.
Also the Hall of Fame class the finalists are revealed,
(35:37):
and we'll have that for you coming up right after this.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
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Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mentioned this every time I have Chris Foller on.
I think he's great at what he does, whether it's
calling college football, calling tennis, he's great. Always been a
professional since I've known him, and I think we get
caught up sometimes where do you have a signature call?
And he does it. He was never a gimmick catchphrase guy.
(36:12):
He just does his job, you know, like Sean McDonough.
They just do their job, and they do it at
a really, really high level. All right. Among the finalists
for the Hall of Fame, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.
Other finalists in the seniors category Ken Anderson, former Bengal
quarterback who should be in the Hall of Fame. Roger
(36:32):
Craig should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
L C.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Greenwood part of the Steel Curtain. A maximum of three
from the five person group can be elected to the
Hall of Fame this year. Now, is that the senior
category that we're talking about, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yeah, this is a bit separate from the normal thing
like Eli Manning or Philip Rivers and guys like this.
This is a different category, and a Mac one has
to go in, a Mac three can go in.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, But why aren't Robert Krafft and Bill Belichick part
of the regular Hall of Fame activities.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
I think this is just separate from the traditional players
who hit the five year mark. Okay, else Greenwood, by
the way, with the Steelers, I looked it up. Six
Pro Bowls in the seventies and he was on the
Hall of Fame All seventies team.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, you got overshadowed because there are quite a few
great defensive players, linebackers, defensive backs, and of course mean
Joe Green. But Kenny Anderson was a great player for
a bad team, and just him getting recognized is I mean,
I'm happy for that, but I've been saying that Kenny
Anderson to me is a Hall of Famer. Evan in Oregon, Hi, Evan,
(37:44):
what's on your mind today? Thank you? Evan. Paulie wants
to play a fill in the blank. I guess we
have a coaching hire that just happened.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah, Dan, here it is to Pete Dammel of ESPN
Ohio State offensive corder to Brian Hartline is expected to
be the next head coach at blank blank.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Penn State, Nope, South Florida US F your bulls. Okay,
that's the Penn State of Florida. Yes, Penn State of
the South. I mean you are technically correct. I kind
of was, yes, yes, okay, all right, Well I thought
(38:36):
he was going to get an opportunity, all right, Good
for him. They'll get good wide receivers there.
Speaker 11 (38:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Brett in California, Hi, Brett, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (38:48):
No, I've been thinking about this lane Kippen things. I
had a friend call me a couple of weeks ago.
He said, I want to quit my job. I don't
want to give two weeks notice. I feel bad about it.
And I said, is this the same job where they
laid people off and they showed up at work and
they locked him out of the office and said that
they could go fIF fifteen minutes at their desk and
(39:11):
then take their things and leave. He said, yeah, I said,
these guys don't know you anything. You know, they don't
respect you. And you look at somebody like James Franklin,
he's almost, you know, one step away from a national
championship game, and then he's out the door. So is
the situation great? No, But if you're in a situation
(39:33):
where they can ask you to leave at any moment,
then you should be able to do the same.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah. But they also get a big payday. They get
paid their contract. When you leave your job, you don't
get paid. It's like you get two weeks, maybe you
get severings. James Franklin got paid, Brian Kelly got paid.
These guys don't feel sorry for them, they get paid.
Would you update the poll results?
Speaker 12 (39:58):
There?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Seatan Yeah, we got a couple of them up.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
There, Old please, Old please, Old please. If you were
on the college football playoff committee, which Russian now, would
be most important whilst ranking teams, the team's resume, their
chance to win, or team's good for ratings. Right now,
team good for ratings has three point one percent of
the vote. Almost the team's resume is just absolutely crushing
(40:25):
on that one. And then are you comfortable with the
current college football ranking system? Seventy three percent of the
audience say.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, okay, I'm okay with it. Do I like it?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
But do I We've made a lot of progress here
in the last fifteen years. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
See, it's like college football has this element of like
gymnastics in it or I have ice skating or something
where there's sort of you know, in that there's the
technical ability, but then there's also the artistic merit. College
football you have to win with a certain amount of artistry.
You have to have the right wins at the right time.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
To satisfy the right people, the judges. Well, you have artistry,
you have all of that, but you also have who
won in lost as well that you throw in to
the equation there. We'll talk some more football and he
must win Thursday Night for the Cowboys and the Lions.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's out ward IWO on this Wednesday Dan and the
Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. We're fully assembled because Seatan
is back from his European vacation. Thank you, Tom, I
got it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I missed out on the clap the first time.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I wasn't gonna miss it the second time.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So we're fully assembled. Todd is here, Seaton's here, Marv
Paul yours truly in the BRGS. And it's a national
signing day. Great day for BYU keeping their coach. Not
so good of a day with Penn State. We'll talk
to Chris Fowler, the voice of college football. He will
join us coming up here in a little bit. Also,
this Thursday night football game looks really really interesting. It
(00:44):
feels playoff like, you know, if the Cowboys maybe had
one more win now all of a sudden, now they
can really get into the playoff picture. The Lions. The
Lions concerned me here because you know, you keep waiting
for you know, teams they flip a switch. Well, I
think we like to think that happens, but it doesn't.
(01:05):
I think the Texans may have done that now they
got the Chiefs coming up this weekend. But the Lions
against the Cowboys, now, it's a must win for the
Cowboys to keep this story alive. It's a must win
for the Lions as well because the Bears have the
best record in the NFC and you got Green Bay
who has I think top five odds to win the
Super Bowl now and it feels like they're kind of
(01:28):
figuring out who they are and Jordan Love has played
really well. This gets into that must win situation for
the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yes, Paul, going back to Dallas, if Dallas can be
the Lions, they had the Vikings Chargers, Commanders Giants. That's
pretty winnable in their current state.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And how many wins. Let's say they win three of
those games. What do they have six wins right now?
They six five and one. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I got the Cowboys at six five and one. If
they could get ten wins, obviously you need some help
with the tie break, but that tie can help them.
That they had our elms season.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, the AFC is more wide open than the NFC.
But yeah, that's a spicy game coming up tomorrow night.
Andrew Whitworth, former offensive lineman. He works for Amazon Prime.
He'll be working that game. He'll join us coming up
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trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. We got the
rankings that have come out, and I think it's the
potential for I don't want to say chaos, but certainly
concerned for some schools and Notre Dame and BYU because
for a while we were comparing Notre Dame and Miami.
I've got the resume comparison here Notre Dames ten and
(03:13):
two BYUS eleven and one conference record BYU eight and
one Notre Dame not into conference strength schedule BYU thirty five.
Notre Dame forty two. Strength of record BYU is sixth,
Notre Dame is thirteen. Best win USC for Notre Dame,
(03:33):
number fifteen Utah for BYU. Worst loss at Miami for
Notre Dame, worst loss at number five Texas Tech BYU
still has Texas Tech coming you. Is your microphone on seating?
You know it's funny. I went to turn it off
and I turned it on instead.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Sorry, I got a little bit of a cough too,
Thank you, Thank you, Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, Marvin, if you're in Notre Dame, another team you
can root for is Duke. Now, if Duke eliminates Virginia,
the ACC might not have anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Duke is playing in the conference title
game with five losses. Right, all right, we'll get to
your phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three
DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a
DP show. We spoke with Bill Cower this week and
(04:34):
we were talking about the booing that Mike Tomlin faced
after the loss at home against Buffalo, and I did
like what Cower said, he goes. You know, I'd see
people out on the street and if they said, hey, coach, hi,
coach how are you coach that? I thought, okay, I'm
don'ing okay. When they would walk by in whisper, then
I knew I was in trouble. He said, whenever we
(04:55):
lost a game, I never stopped to get gasoline. Never,
because I knew that I is going to get an
earfall from the Steeler fans. Here's Mike Tomlin talking about
the fans booing and chanting for him to get fired.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
In general, I agree with him from this perspective. Football
is our game. We're in a sport entertainment business. And
so if you root for the Steelers, entertaining them is winning.
And so when you're not winning is not entertaining. And
if you've been in this business, you understand that, and
so I respect it. I share frustrations. I understand what
(05:34):
makes this thing go, and winning is what makes this
thing go.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, I respect that. Let me. Let me throw something
out there, and there's nothing attached to this. The last
thing I want to do is bring up any kind
of rumor with Mike Tomlin, because I did that one
time with USC's wish list that he was on the list.
He had no interest in going there. I was just
telling people This is how crazy you know they're they're
(05:59):
searching high and wide to get their next head coach. Okay,
that was a while ago. What if Mike Tomlin and
the Steelers parted ways mutual parting? You knew who would
call him right away? The Cleveland Browns would call him
right away. There would be the New York Giants would
(06:21):
call it. There would be a line of teams that
would say, hey, we got our coach, but we can
get that coach. And this might be a situation where
Mike says, I'm going to do some TV. Maybe I'd
do a couple of years here. He might find that
he likes it an awful lot. He's not an old guy.
Was he fifty four? Maybe fifty five? But you could
(06:43):
go into TV and maybe spend a couple of years
in there, and then you can pick and choose what
your you know, where you want to go, where you
want to live. How old is he, PAULI, he's fifty three. Okay,
so that's young. But you know you're in a city
that demands greatness because they've seen greatness. You've provided some
(07:05):
of that greatness. They've just never been bad enough for
him to lose his job. If you're always nine and
eight or when they played sixteen games eight and eight, No.
Nine and seven, you can keep your job. But getting
into the playoffs but not winning in the playoffs is
unacceptable when you haven't won a playoff game since twenty
(07:26):
sixteen and you're the constant. That's where I think. And
Ben Roethlisberger said, hey, they might have to look at
cleaning house. This is from Ben, but imagine if how
would the Steeler fans feel if Tomlin went to the Browns?
Because you can't rule that out. Feels like Kevin Stefanski
is trying to coach for his job here, but if
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the Bengals brought him in. I mean, these are all
scenarios that I think would be realistic.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes, Mark, But if you're Mike Tomlin, what would entice
you to go to the Browns of all teams?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, if you want to coach again and you could
go in there, you got an unbelievable defense. Really, they
the Browns aren't that far away. I know it sounds
crazy to say that, but Okay, you got to find
your quarterback, and that's a big find. I get that.
But if you get a couple of pieces, then all
of a sudden, with that defense, you're gonna get people's attention,
(08:26):
and he might look at that, or he might say, hey,
look at the Bengals in that offense. Hey, I'll build
a defense to go along with that offense. Maybe you know,
he just says I'm going to go, you know, be
a TV analyst, which you know, he might like it.
He might find out that, you know, Sean McVay is
going to be a great analyst. At some point, probably
(08:46):
gets one more super Bowl, Super Bowl appearance, and then
he's probably going to go, hey, I can go dominate,
you know, in the broadcasting booth or a studio show.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, Paulie, I want to say that Mike Tomlin should
pass on all AFC North jobs they come available. But
if the Bengals job, the healthy Joe Burrow becomes available,
I would make my pick based off the quarterback and
Brown's you know, you can't go to the Ravens and
not going to be open. But that Bengals job if
it did come open, Oh my gosh, what about the Giants?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, what about the New York Giants? I mean, you
got some players there. As long as Abdul Carter shows
up at meetings, Jackson Dart gets out of bounds. Yeah, Seaton, Yeah,
you know that Bengals job is interesting.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
It's a good chance to win with somebody else's players,
step right into a good situation.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Would there be mutual interest with the Raiders or Dolphins
and Mike Tomlin if you want to stay in the
AFC and Mike McDaniel, Lee's I know the Dolphins have
been playing well lately and the Raiders are a disaster
and they got a lot of rebelling to do, but
maybe this Pete Carroll experiment is a one and done.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Of course there would be interest. I mean, he's a
Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Would he want to go to one of those teams?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh? Well, I don't know. I don't know Mike Tomlin
at all. I don't think he's ever been on the show.
He's been asked before, but he's never been on the show.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You know how the analysts always say, the next head
coach you hire, you want to be the opposite of
the one you're firing. Mike Tomlin is the opposite of
the Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. I mean he
is a tough guy to the point, gritty football guy.
No nonsense, he's not. He doesn't look like the IT
guy with the quirky statements.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
John and Philly, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Hey? Dan? Six foot one eighty five as mentioning, you
were talking about Mike Tomlin and he would get his
ticket a litter if he would ever get let go
by the Steelers, And I as the Steelers fan, you know,
I feel like he is a bit overrated in the
sense of having basically two separate careers in the last
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fifteen years. He's won three playoff games and they were
against Matt Moore, AJ McCarron and Alex Smith. Not the
greatest resume in regards of postseason in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right, well, thank you, John. I still think there
will be a lot of teams in line. He's an upgrade.
He's an upgrade on those other coaches in those positions.
The question is what does he want? What's Pittsburgh going
to do? I mean, they got to find their quarterback.
They haven't had a quarterback since Ben and you know,
the defense isn't as formidable as it once was. It
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feels like they get receivers, they don't keep receivers. Yeah, Paulie,
we were talking.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
About a month ago best state for football, Worst state
for football, the current state of football in the state
of Pennsylvania. Now, the Eagles are defending champs, but they
don't feel like they're going back. Penn State is a
real mess this week, and the Steelers non threatening.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Rich in South Dakota, Hi, Rich, what's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (11:51):
And eighty as a lifetime in Nebraska fans. I feel
like Penn State is mirroring what Nebraska did back in
two thousand when they fired Solidge. I think Peters from
the AD thought, hey, I'm going to have a list
of people I can choose from, and I come in
the office on Monday and they had to settle for
(12:12):
Bill Callahan. And they haven't been relevant six I think
Penn State really needs be careful with their next tire
on there, because they could be the next Nebraska football program.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Thank you, Rich, great reference. I thought Frank Solich was
a really good head coach and then Nebraska fires eam
he goes to Ohio University. I thought he was a
really good coach. I do, but yeah, Penn State, you
know National Signing Day. This is the kind of thing
that reverberates, not only this upcoming season, the season after that,
and you're really going to have to dive into transfer portal,
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going to spend some money. But and maybe they have
a game plan. I have a couple of friends went
to Penn State and they're like, you wait and see.
So every time there's news that somebody's not going to
Penn State, I'll go I'm still waiting to see. And
then you had Kalanie Sataki, the BYU coach who said
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no to Penn State. So I'm going to keep an
eye on that as we all will. Uh kenon Ohio,
Hi Ken, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (13:20):
Good morning, Dan h best to all of the boys
in the ICU ward. I hope you all get stealing
better soon. Got a couple I guess I have a
comment about this whole Lane Kiffin thing. I think the
best thing that could happen to Lane is that nobody
wants to sign with him because the man lacks character.
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You know, we hear all the time how coaches are
trying to build men out of young men and form
formulate their character and who they're going to be and
if I'm a senior wanting to sign or somebody to move,
why would I want to go to a coach that
he can't make up his own mind? He committed to
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anything and his characters in question.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Ken, Maybe forty years ago i'd buy into that. Maybe
thirty years ago, maybe twenty years ago. Not now. These
kids are going They want their nil, They want to
know if they're playing, Hey, can that guy get me
to the next level? Get me to the pros. I
don't think there's any loyalty. I don't think there's any allegiance.
I don't think it's I'm building men, you know, Yeah,
(14:30):
I'm building their character. I mean this all sounds good
from yesteryear in a different generation. It's just not applicable now. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Well, I think if we're going by is his name Ken,
I think Ken, if the only way to build character
is through being a perfect person, then no.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
One's building any character, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I think that Lane Kiffin might be bringing kids
in and helping develop them into young men. That doesn't
mean that everything he's going to do in his life
is perfect. That doesn't mean that he now has to
stay at this one place or he will forever be
a hypocrite or some type of moral less, characterless guy. Yeah,
he got a chance to jump to a marquee job.
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He's striking while the iron's hot. It's something that he's
done his entire career. He's done that every single step
of the way. This isn't anything new for him or
for pretty much any coach that's out there right now.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So I think that we got.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
To chill a little bit with the This guy's got
no spine and he's a turds kind of talk.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like easy dude. I don't know if he's been described
that way. That was the subtext of what Chemo said. Subtext, Yeah,
I read into it. Yes, Marvin, he.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Was described as something else over the weekend. But I'm
not going to say it on it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But bro, all right, we'll take a break. Rhymes with
bruh oh. Yeah that's right. Well, it is the holiday season.
Ho ho ho. Chris Fowler is going to join us
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Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know, whatever you see the play by play guy,
you listen to him on the broadcast. You know, Pat
Summer all murder, She wrote, I always wanted to do
one of those promos during a big game, like someone
is guilty, No one is innocent. In a new drama series,
He's all her fault. The seemingly perfect families world is
(17:03):
shattered when their young son goes missing. Streaming now only
on Peacock. What do you think, Bunny?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Except on the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Chris Fowler gets to do that. ESPN College Football tennis
host commentator. He's got the big games, He's got the
SEC championship game coming up, he's got to have the
Heisman ceremony, the national title. Did you ever have one
of those moments where during a game, you have to
do a promo for something coming up on ABC.
Speaker 13 (17:35):
Nothing good is murder, she wrote, I mean I would
like to do a dramatic show. We get money at football,
we get the Tuesday CFP ranking show. It's hard to,
you know, bring the gravitass to that, Dan, It's hard
to lay the drama on with those kind of promos.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I kind of wish we had, you know, even like
Dancing with the Stars. I mean, you can. You don't
get a lot of.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
All Right, your initial reaction to the rankings was what.
Speaker 13 (18:06):
Notre Dame's worried? I actually just spoke to Marcus Freeman
about some other things. But you know, them dropping down
a spot, Alabama beating Auburn a tough rivalry game, great
win for them, but not an overwhelming performance has some
notre name people nervous. Hey, these games are all interconnected
on Saturday in ways that not everybody fully understands and
ways we haven't quite seen before. Okay, so you get
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that Big twelve championship game. People are going to be
closely watching whether Texas Tech beats BYU for a second time.
If that happens, I know what the commissioner they twelve says,
but I think BYU's case would be really damaged. Both
losses would be the Texas Tech, but a second loss
with BYU's resume would probably be fatal in my view,
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based on what the committee has done. If they win
that game, Texas Tech's not going to fall out of
the bracket and Byu would be big twelve champions. That
would make a lot of people sweat the ACC championship game.
You know, a seven win Duke team wins a six
way tiebreak. I have no idea how the ACC determines
the tiebreak. They maybe you should consider going forward just
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using the CFP rankings, which would have Miami in that
game clearly a better team than most of those teams
they're tied with with those two conference losses. But if
Duke wins, stand din I guarantee anything the ACC Virginia
solid if they went But if Duke pulls a mild upset,
and I think they got a chance.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
To do that, what are you gonna do? I mean,
is the ACC going to be totally left out of
this practet?
Speaker 13 (19:31):
Politically that'd be tricky, but the champion would be guaranteed
nothing in Miami. Maybe isn't that large team might help
their case. We don't know, because some of this stuff
is unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
How much does brand play in this? Do you think
in the minds of the committee that Notre Dame's brand
How important is that?
Speaker 13 (19:51):
He asked your viewers, they would say it's everything. I
mean they think that ESPN's pulled in the strings. We
want the biggest brands. I promise you we have played
no part in that. I don't go in the committee's
mind if it plays a part. People just sort of
assume that Notre Dame is an elite program and when
they have ten wins, it must be a really great team.
And I think this is a really good team. But
I think you'd have to go member my member and
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really get them to give them some truth serum and
ask them if it matters Notre Dame Miami versus BYA
or somebody else. I mean, I think statements have been
made where non big brand teams have been given the nod.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
You know, SMU was in there.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
TCU got into a four team bracket when they made
the championship game. I mean, I think you could shoot
down the arguments and oh, it's always the same teams.
Alabama didn't jump up because they're Alabama. I think they
jumped up because the question of excluding a team that
makes the SEC Championship game and then loses after beating
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Georgia on the road in the regular season is pretty tricky, right,
Even though that would be the first free loss team
to get in, Alabama wouldn't be in because it's a
big In my opinion, you're never gonna like dissuade the
conspiracy theorists because they're everywhere.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
But that's just my view.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What is Penn State doing?
Speaker 13 (21:13):
Oh, you're not comfortable if you're a Penn State fan
waiting like fifty three days after firing your coach, then
I have another one in place. When all the teams
around you were going boom boom boom. Deal done, deal, done,
deal done, including Michigan State, which I don't know one
they took l I mean they got their guy in Fitzgerald.
We'd been mentioned at Penn State. I don't know what
they're doing. I think fans get really nervous in this
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modern landscape. Today's signing day, the portal is coming up.
Penn State's a really attractive job.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It's a challenging job. As you know, it's the deep
end of the pool and the Big ten, competing with.
Speaker 13 (21:48):
The with the dollars and the commitment made by Ohio State,
Michigan and the West Coast schools. I think Penn State
fans would say, wait a minute, we take a backseat
to No. One in terms of commitment and resources. And
that's what makes it a pretty good job. But I
don't know what the hesitation has been. I mean, you know,
James Franklin gets fired, he's already got his next job,
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and I think he's taken four commits to Virginia attach
and that's the concern. You know, in this modern yere
Dan people don't really fully understand this. It's really the
roster that is the asset for the program. The coaches
are very important because the coach has to play a
big part in assembling the roster and then creating the
culture where you get these mercenary guys out of the
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portal who actually will blend and mash as a team.
I'm not downplaying that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Well.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
When you talk about a program of the money people
that pay for the roster and hire these consultants that
pay a millions to help them assemble a roster a
sign of value to this guy. They know, Hey, this
defense at back at UAB has this analytical grade on
every single play of his season. Here's his rating as
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a player, Here's how we would fit our program, Here's
what we should pay him. They have that information to
work with for virtually every guy in college football.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It's crazy. I've seen the grafts on each player, and so.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
When those guys make those investments in the roster, that's
what their ego tied to. That's what they're invested in,
literally financially and ego wise.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And the roster almost becomes more important.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
To keep than the coach, if you know what I mean,
Because you get they figure to get a guy to
coach this roster. But assembling this roster and paying what
we've invested, you think the coaches are well paid. These
rosters are like twenty twenty five thirty million bucks. That's
not really talked about enough. You better It's like pro sports, right,
you can cover and be able. The roster is really
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bigger than the coach.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm talking to Chris Fowler. He'll be on the call
the SEC title game that'll be at four eastern Saturday
on ABC also the Heisman Trophy ceremony December thirteenth, and
also the national title game as well. Kiffin to LSU.
More about Lane Kiffin or the hiring structure windows of
college football.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Well, the schedule is a problem, but that doesn't that's
not his reason for going to LSU. You want to
be mad at Lane Kiffer and failing an ole miss
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
It's not the schedule's fault.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
The schedule sets up to create messy situations, right.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
You can't have signing.
Speaker 13 (24:19):
The playoff, and the portal basically compressed within one month,
all coinciding, coming and going all the time. The coaching
carousel is only going to spend more and more, is
what I was talking about with the rosters. You can't
live with this roster. We'll get someone who can. So
that's not going to change going forward. We're gonna have
a messy situation every year. They could clean up some
of it by maybe a more logical schedule. That's a
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longer conversation. You know, Kiffin did what most coaches would do.
Giffen did what Pete Carroll and Nick Saban told him
to do basically, and what or advised him to do.
I'll put it that way and what he thought his
late dad, Monty would have wanted him to do. And
LSU has resources. They won championships with pre coaches.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Oh Miss, I think he could do it there too,
but it's more of a leap of faith.
Speaker 13 (25:05):
I like Lane and ole Miss. I'm disappointed for their program.
I hope they make a nice run in the playoff
with Pete Golding as coach. But Lane is not the
villain who's symbolic of everything wrong with the sport.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Fans they're going to think that they're going to root.
Speaker 13 (25:18):
For LSU to lose every game by fifty, which they won't,
by the way.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
But you know, he did what most coaches would do.
And I think the old narrative about ripping players or coaches.
Speaker 13 (25:31):
For making business decisions, in other words, taking more money
to go somewhere else. You got to get past that.
That's outdated. It's kind of tired and lazy to me.
It's the reality of the situation.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
You be mad about it.
Speaker 13 (25:41):
You can say college football has been ruined by the portal,
by ESPN, whoever you want, but that's just whining and pitching.
Coaches no longer do that. They understand the nature of things.
And I think fans need to as well. It's not
your grandfather's college football, your dad's either It is what
it is, like it or not.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
It's very, very close to the structure of pro sports.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I said it quite a few times the last
couple of days. I don't begrudge him for taking the job.
It's a great job to take. It's sort of the
way he took it and the mess that he left behind.
And you want to go back and coach, but all
they won't let me coach, and you know, don't play
victim here. Don't don't do that.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
He said, he think the viility. He's not a victim.
You can't want to coach the team you go to
an arch rival.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
If you don't know, folks, that's a bitter rivalry that
he left Ole Miss for it for a school that
LSU considers Old Miss their little brother and the neighborly
thing there. I mean, you can't. You can't have both.
And and at most schools would do what Ole Miss.
I know Tulamee some stay that's a whole different situation.
They're not in the playoff yet, they have to they
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have some work to do. But I think that. I
don't begrudge all missed. I feel badly for their players,
I really do. That's why I think I hope they
make a nice run. It'd be a great story if
ole Miss could say, hell with Kevin, we're gonna rally
around Pete Golding and go make or run there.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
But but you know, and I like Lane.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
I think he's been the best coach he's ever been
by far at ole Miss the last six years, and
the happiest person that he's been. So that that to me,
that's why it's a little bit bittersweet. But I you know,
easily got hire at LSU, got a great chance to
win a championship. I said in a video I posted,
he's gonna get fired at LSU. He's gonna get They
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fire everybody unless you're Nick Saban.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Saban wins and goes to the Dolphins. He probably would
have kept winning and he stayed there.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Nick Saban is kind of an outlier, right, But LSU
fires two coaches who win championships and not that far
after they won, him Miles.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
And the Oris run.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
So even if you win a championship down there and
then you fall off because maintaining consistent excellence in this
landscape with the portal is really really hard to do.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
So you're gonna have a big year, and expectation is
gonna be through the roof.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
And then you're gonna You're gonna let it down and
then nobody's patient. So I think whatever Lane does there,
it'll be probably messy when it ends. His exits tend
to be messy, and even even his knowledge that right,
some guys just.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Make a clean break and off the next so nobody
gets mad at him Lane. When Lane leaves, it gets messy.
It's just you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Lane talked about the Nick Saban advising him. Should Saban
on College game Day this weekend acknowledge that he was
guiding him to or told him to leave Old miss
as Lane Kiff and his talking should should he be
saying that since he's on the premier college you know
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football program, and you're the most one of the most
powerful people, and you are guiding Lanekiffin to take the
LSHU job. Should that have been disclosed or will it
be disclosed?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Will it be disclosed?
Speaker 13 (28:48):
I have no idea, but you think I should advise
Nick Saban and what to tell people?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, if I'm reise Davis. I got to ask the question,
Chris Well.
Speaker 13 (28:56):
No, I am saying I think he didn't tell him
to leave a miss to clarify that. He just laid
out for him what his opinion was of the opportunity
to win a national championship in either places, as I
understand it so and he wouldn't be the only one
to lay out that argument. Again, as I said, it's
been done in LSU by three different coaches, not that
not that much time, and it hasn't been an old miss.
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I think that that's a little bit less relevant in
the modern system because you can win a championship at
Texas Tech.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
They might do it.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
I mean they're not favored to, but they are capable
of winning a championship. You know, look TC, you got
to the championship game. Ole Miss can make a deep run.
I don't think you have to be one of the
biggest brands because you can. You can spend like the
big brands did. That's what Texas Tech has done. And
the path in the Big twelve is is less rugged
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than other conferences. But I don't think ole Miss would
be incapable of winning a national championship.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's advising him This is Lane saying that he's the
one who said you got to take the job. All
of us.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
I think that Pete Carroll advice.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
But Saban's the guy who is doing college football. He
doing game Day.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
I think Saban wisdom is massively respected by every single
coach in the business, including Land of course, who worked
for him. So I think that, you know, offline with
conversation they had. That's that's for Nick to share or not.
But you know, I think he I think Nick coach
at LSU, won a championshipdel he does care about the program,
and I think he's well acquainted with the landscape down there,
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the challenges of it. Again, he won and then went
to the Dolphins, which didn't make LSU fans that happy,
made him even more unhappy when he came back and
coached Alabama and then beat him. So I mean Nick
Nick Nick and LSU have an interesting relationship, but he
did win a championship and he's acknowledged as the greatest
coach of all time. I think by there are people
so I don't know. I think you can't put it
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on that. You know, Lane made his own choice. You
get advice and whoever you want, you take it to
whatever degree you want and uh, and you use.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
It, but you can't. You can't say that he's the
reason that Lam made his decision.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I mean, I thought it was conflict of interest there
because he's on the individual.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Because he's on game day.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
If you had any idea, if you had any idea,
the number of calls that you feel from people in
the sport asking your opinion and advice on coaches on everything,
I mean, you have to really, Nick, Nick is not
my position, you know, if you're if you're on the
panel as a as a.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Pundit, I think it's different.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Nick Nick is still an all time great coach, But
the connection is all of the sport and a coach
at the place we're talking about. That's not the same
thing as as somebody calling Reese or Dez or Kirk
or me or in whatever, Pat McAfee. You know, it's
it's different. I get asked those questions all the time.
I'm not comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
It, and I try to say out of it because.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
My opinion whether a guy would be a good coach
fit at their place should not be factor into the
decision that somebody makes.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
In my view, I just start to stay out of that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
How dangerous is Georgia They seem to be lost in
the shuffle here of you know, when we're talking about
great I don't know if they're a great team, but
how do you assess how good they are this year
compared to what Kirby's had in previous years, not as talented.
Speaker 13 (32:21):
As those teams that win championships that had like the
whole to phill up the Eagles defense on them, they
had like eight first round guy, those ridiculous. You're not
going to ever see a defense as good as Georgia
had in those years, in my opinion, the way we're
trending in this sport, they find ways, though, Dan, I mean,
Kirby knows how to get a team to hit its
stride at this part of the season. And that's priceless
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because that's the thing that coaches struggle with. It comes
from the physicality, the toughness that you learn from day one.
You get to Georgia. They're really banged up. Their center,
Drew Bobo is out. I don't think he's going to
be able to go again, and certainly not playing Saturday,
and to lose your center is a really tough loss.
Everybody's beat up. Alabama's walking wounded. But Georgia is a tough,
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tough out.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
They're hard to kill, as they like to say, and
being hard to kill is really priceless in the postseason.
I mean, they're just like an NFL team. You can
call them like the Chiefs right that.
Speaker 13 (33:15):
It doesn't matter the regular you get them in that
bracket and shit, you don't want to play them, and
nobody wants to play Georgia.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I mean, they're a tough out. Are they going to
overwhelm you offensively?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Are they going to allow you allow three points a game?
On defense? No, They've been a little bit more vulnerable,
especially early in games.
Speaker 13 (33:34):
But the way they're playing defense now, the way they
played against Georgia Tech, I don't expect a scoring infest
against Alabama. George is going to be hard to beat
and it'll be interesting to see where they, you know,
get match up. But I know no one wants to
see them opposite your team in the bracket.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Great to catch up with you. State's fired up, now,
come on, this is the biggest time of the year.
This when you got to perform.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Chris, do I not look fired up today?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
You do you do. But but but what, no, no,
did you get a lift in today?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
You know I didn't get it. I didn't get a
cold plunge in.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
I did three minutes of thirty eight degrees in the backyard,
but we got the landscape.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
I can't get out there yet. But once the col
we'll get a lift. I don't know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
You didn't you didn't felt I was fired up, But
I'm fired up. Don't give you.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I don't know. Every day is super Bowl for me.
I mean, I'm on my deathbed here. I mean, I'm
barely able to talk. But uh, I mean you know this,
you know you.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You play hurt. I will, I will.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
I have a nobody cares if I have knee surgery
on Monday, So I'll get through that.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I'll be at the highestman. You gotta do what you
gotta do, and you're You're a great example of that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So I'll talk to you.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
A great health.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Fowler. He's tough. He'll be
on the call for the SEC title game coming up
this weekend. I think I had should surgery and came in.
I did that Friday, came in Monday. I mean just
saying colon Osca Bey Sports Hernia did that came back
the next day. So we're gonna run down the resume
(35:14):
hashtag warrior, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, you would think that Foller would schedule the surgery
for the offseason, a nice March surgery between tennis events.
But no, that's a warrior or two. Okay, I appreciate
that every day. Super Bowl. All right, we'll take a break.
We'll come back after this. More phone calls as well.
Also the Hall of Fame class the finalists are revealed,
(35:37):
and we'll have that for you coming up right after this.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
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Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mentioned this every time I have Chris Foller on.
I think he's great at what he does, whether it's
calling college football, calling tennis, he's great. Always been a
professional since I've known him, and I think we get
caught up sometimes where do you have a signature call?
And he does it. He was never a gimmick catchphrase guy.
(36:12):
He just does his job, you know, like Sean McDonough.
They just do their job, and they do it at
a really, really high level. All right. Among the finalists
for the Hall of Fame, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.
Other finalists in the seniors category Ken Anderson, former Bengal
quarterback who should be in the Hall of Fame. Roger
(36:32):
Craig should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
L C.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Greenwood part of the Steel Curtain. A maximum of three
from the five person group can be elected to the
Hall of Fame this year. Now, is that the senior
category that we're talking about, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Yeah, this is a bit separate from the normal thing
like Eli Manning or Philip Rivers and guys like this.
This is a different category, and a Mac one has
to go in, a Mac three can go in.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, But why aren't Robert Krafft and Bill Belichick part
of the regular Hall of Fame activities.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
I think this is just separate from the traditional players
who hit the five year mark. Okay, else Greenwood, by
the way, with the Steelers, I looked it up. Six
Pro Bowls in the seventies and he was on the
Hall of Fame All seventies team.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, you got overshadowed because there are quite a few
great defensive players, linebackers, defensive backs, and of course mean
Joe Green. But Kenny Anderson was a great player for
a bad team, and just him getting recognized is I mean,
I'm happy for that, but I've been saying that Kenny
Anderson to me is a Hall of Famer. Evan in Oregon, Hi, Evan,
(37:44):
what's on your mind today? Thank you? Evan. Paulie wants
to play a fill in the blank. I guess we
have a coaching hire that just happened.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah, Dan, here it is to Pete Dammel of ESPN
Ohio State offensive corder to Brian Hartline is expected to
be the next head coach at blank blank.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Penn State, Nope, South Florida US F your bulls. Okay,
that's the Penn State of Florida. Yes, Penn State of
the South. I mean you are technically correct. I kind
of was, yes, yes, okay, all right, Well I thought
(38:36):
he was going to get an opportunity, all right, Good
for him. They'll get good wide receivers there.
Speaker 11 (38:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Brett in California, Hi, Brett, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (38:48):
No, I've been thinking about this lane Kippen things. I
had a friend call me a couple of weeks ago.
He said, I want to quit my job. I don't
want to give two weeks notice. I feel bad about it.
And I said, is this the same job where they
laid people off and they showed up at work and
they locked him out of the office and said that
they could go fIF fifteen minutes at their desk and
(39:11):
then take their things and leave. He said, yeah, I said,
these guys don't know you anything. You know, they don't
respect you. And you look at somebody like James Franklin,
he's almost, you know, one step away from a national
championship game, and then he's out the door. So is
the situation great? No, But if you're in a situation
(39:33):
where they can ask you to leave at any moment,
then you should be able to do the same.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah. But they also get a big payday. They get
paid their contract. When you leave your job, you don't
get paid. It's like you get two weeks, maybe you
get severings. James Franklin got paid, Brian Kelly got paid.
These guys don't feel sorry for them, they get paid.
Would you update the poll results?
Speaker 12 (39:58):
There?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Seatan Yeah, we got a couple of them up.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
There, Old please, Old please, Old please. If you were
on the college football playoff committee, which Russian now, would
be most important whilst ranking teams, the team's resume, their
chance to win, or team's good for ratings. Right now,
team good for ratings has three point one percent of
the vote. Almost the team's resume is just absolutely crushing
(40:25):
on that one. And then are you comfortable with the
current college football ranking system? Seventy three percent of the
audience say.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, okay, I'm okay with it. Do I like it?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
But do I We've made a lot of progress here
in the last fifteen years. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
See, it's like college football has this element of like
gymnastics in it or I have ice skating or something
where there's sort of you know, in that there's the
technical ability, but then there's also the artistic merit. College
football you have to win with a certain amount of artistry.
You have to have the right wins at the right time.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
To satisfy the right people, the judges. Well, you have artistry,
you have all of that, but you also have who
won in lost as well that you throw in to
the equation there. We'll talk some more football and he
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