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December 15, 2025 41 mins

Dan was pleasantly surprised at how well Philip Rivers performed for the Indianapolis Colts in their loss to the Seahawks. Plus, Nick Wright stops by for a postmortem on the Kansas City Chiefs’ dynasty.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hope you had a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Everybody's here, Nick Wright, can City Chiefs fan will join us.
Coming up a little bit. Patrick Mahomes done for the
year and it will probably impact his twenty twenty six season.
No word yet on Micah Parsons, but it is feared
that he is a torn acl as well. Stat of
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So the Chiefs are out, Mahomes is out, the Bills
with a great comeback, and the Broncos over the Packers.
The Rams and the Allions was a fun game to watch,

(00:52):
but this is one of those where you hope that
the injuries that you have are not something that is
going to be lasting. For the Rams, you got the
game coming up on Thursday night and that is going
to be very important of can we get out of
this without injuries. Now you want to have home field advantage.
I understand all of that, but this time of the year,

(01:14):
you're also hoping, can we be healthy by the end
of the year, And that's the tricky part. Seahawks squeak
out a win. Philip Rivers, he did, okay, he did okay.
I mean, I think there's a bigger picture, and I
know that nobody wants to talk about it. I brought
it up last week. Are you trying to tell me
there's no other quarterback on the planet who could have

(01:38):
played for the Colts that they went with Philip Rivers. Now,
I understand the familiarity with the coach, the system, he
had played there, but are we running out of really
good quarterbacks? Because I know that there are times when
we go, boy, that guy's going to be a star,
that guy's going to be a star at that position.
The amount of money that's made there, the development that

(02:00):
starts in high school, junior high college, I don't know.
I'm watching and now I didn't find it irresponsible. Ryan
Clark of the Mothership, former player, I think he used
the word, you know, that's irresponsible to put him out there.
A lot of people thought that he was going to
be a disaster. I just wondered if he had the

(02:21):
arm strength against that team and they were going to
be able to protect him.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now he doesn't have the arm strength.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
A lot of short passes and as Philip said, hey,
I couldn't throw the ball fifty yards ten years ago.
What makes you think, you know, oh, he's going to
throw it fifty or he can't throw it fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I thought he did.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
A pretty good job, and a lot of that is
just managing a game. And you know, he took a
couple of shots, he had a touchdown pass, and it
meant a lot to him.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I mean, you can hear the emotion in his voice
after the game.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out for warm ups and
all that out there from Natanthem and the game just
got gone. I was just thankful, grateful that I was
out there and it was a blast. It was a blast.
But obviously the motion is now our disappointment, right, disappointment.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, I'm this isn't about me.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
You know, we were on a team that was scrapping
like crazy to trying to stay alive and get in
the postseason. So obviously we're all disappointed.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
And yes it was about him, but the bigger picture
is about your team, and I thought, I mean, they
needed a last second field goal to beat you at home.
The Patrick Mahomes injury. Andy Reid spoke about that after
the loss.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Patrick hurt has left knee. We'll get an MRI tomorrow
or this evening whenever they get him in there didn't
look good. So how you guys saw it, We'll just
see where it goes.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
They were still in the game.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Plus, when you get injured this late in the season,
it impacts next season. And players know when they're hurt.
I mean they you can tell. Michael Parsons knew it
was serious. Even the players when Mahomes was down, they
knew it was serious. There's you know when Aaron Rodgers
went down, he knew when he blew out his achilles.

(04:16):
Kevin Durant. You know, when you see these athletes and
they'll know better quicker than anybody else because that feeling boom,
it hits you. And Mahomes knew that this was serious.
Michael Parsons knew it was serious. So you know, I
think when we look at them, and I always look
to see how the players react around them. Does that

(04:39):
sometimes will tell you they know the difference. They know
when somebody's down and not getting back up. And you
saw that with Mahomes and he already he's had a
bulky knee. I mean, he's had knee issues. But I
wonder does this change his approach at all, because he
does use his legs far more than you think. And

(04:59):
also so he gets hit far more than you think.
He might not get sacked, but he gets hit. And
that's what Denver did. Jordan Love. They hit him fifteen
times after a while. And I forget who was on
with us who talked about Aaron Rodgers getting hit to
then trying to play differently to not get hit. I

(05:23):
forget who we had on last week. Was it maybe
Steve Young but maybe talking about how you know, as
a younger quarterback, you know you got to stay in
the pocket or you got to stay in there and
you're going to take that hit. As you get older,
you make business decisions. And whoever it was he was
on with us, talked about that's where Aaron Rodgers is now,

(05:43):
whereas Green Bay days, I'm going to stay in here
and then all of a sudden, you're not like I
watched Jackson Dart and as much as I like him,
I thought he was going to be a first round pick.
I think he's exciting once again. He's going to be
in the blue tent. You're going to be in the
blue tent far more than he should be. And you

(06:04):
saw that yesterday the officials sent him to the sidelines.
It wasn't the giants, it was the officials who said, hey,
get him out. And now they're looking for that with
Jackson dark. But if you're in the blue tent, you're
in concussion protocol three four, five times a year. I mean,
we haven't brought up to and concussions in a long

(06:25):
long time. And I hope that I didn't jinx in
with the game tonight. But you've got to understand what
you can and can't do. You're young, and hey, I'm
going to take advantage of that. I don't have any
problems with you running. I have a problem with you
getting hit when you run and he wants to take
contact and you're watching and you're going do you want

(06:48):
to have a ten year career or do you want
to have a five year career? Because I don't think
that you can play the way you're playing and have
a ten year career.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, Pauline, I just went back and looked at the
dart hit. Yes, he's right by the goal line. He
puts his head down into two defenders and when he's
on the ground, he stays down there a second. He
asks for a hand up, and when he gets up,
he does the headshake and the officials two feet away
sends him right over to the sideline.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
When you see the shake, that's when that's like, damn,
I got stars, bells ringing cobwebs, and you're playing a
position where you gotta have you gotta be sharp acute.
All right, pull question for a second hour of the
program is gonna be what Seaton?

Speaker 7 (07:35):
Yeah, man, that's tough. That's a lot of concussions for
that kid.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, cheepers, yeahers ye.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
Let's say we got two up there right now. NFL
playoff related, which team is more surprising to currently be
out of the playoffs the Ravens or the Lions. Lions
have seventy five percent of that vote, and then who
will make the playoffs Steelers or Ravens. That one's a
lot closer. Fifty two percent have the Ravens and.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Then I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Can TJ Watt play after having a collapse or punctured lung?
Because that came out and I'm like, wait a minute,
he went in for treatment and came out with a
punctured lung.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, Paula.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
According to jj Watt, TJ had successful surgery to stabilize
a partially collapsed lung. No details on a recovery timeline,
but when you hear timeline, it.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Doesn't see O my god.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
By the way, JJ Watt wants played with no lungs,
remember that he's out and seven.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think it was zero lungs. Didn't need him.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Tyler and Illinois, Hi, Tyler, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Five ten? Dad, Bob two oh five? Hey, I was
curious about your relationship as far as those list your insiders.
Is this a just a trading of information? Do you
have it where you guys are buying each other dinner?
Or do you can go as far as having anybody

(08:55):
on your play roll as far as getting information back
and forth to each other.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, no, there's no quid pro quo. Haven't bought dinners
if I see them, it's just a casual conversation. But no,
I'm not buying gifts for people. I've known a couple
of these sources for over thirty years, and this went

(09:22):
back to the Sports Center days. And now all I ask,
and this can be people who have been on the
air or even they're not on the show. It just
keep me honest on something, give me a heads up
if I'm going the right direction. So all I'm doing
is protecting, you know, what I've built up for forty years.
I just want to make sure that what I get

(09:43):
is right and I can give it to you. But
you know, these people aren't looking for any kind of
attribution there. They just will They listen to the show,
and that's all they're doing is giving me information. Now,
it's not always correct, but it does come from a
good place of people that I've trusted for a long
long time. And I'm very lucky to have those kind

(10:06):
of people in my life who will look out for me.
You know, information on the Big Ten, or information on Michigan,
you know, go down the list of things. You know,
We've had a lot of success with a lot of
college football information. Used to be I had a ton
of baseball information, broke stories with baseball NBA, but you know,

(10:32):
once again, people who I have trusted, some have gotten
out of the business, some have retired. Well, that kind
of goes along with cultivating, constantly cultivating sources. Somebody who
can tell you something. Somebody's willing to tell you something,
and the benefit the payoff is I'm able to relay
that to you. But no, I'm not getting Christmas gifts

(10:54):
or you know, sending chocolates to teams as some insiders
do up and baskets. Yeah, we're not doing that. Zack
and Knoxville. Good morning, Zach. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Adp, thanks for taking my call. I just want to
piggyback on the Diego Pavia stuff. And he was asked before,
and I think all the candidates were who's the best
college football player in history? And he said himself, And
I just wanted to remind him that Johnny Manziel rushed
for thirty eight more yards and three more touchdowns than

(11:28):
Jeremiah Love did in his Heisman season. And I also
have a poll question. If you think Diego Pavia within
the next three years, do you think that he will
start a game in the NFL or fight Jake Paul

(11:49):
That one.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I don't know any information about Diego and the NFL,
because the people I trust they're not doing at right now,
and it would be just conjecture.

Speaker 10 (12:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I don't want to do that because I don't know that.
The only thing I heard from in one of my
sources talked about Fernando Mendoza didn't do anything great, but
he didn't have weaknesses. And you know, this a pocket quarterback.
So that's the only analysis I guess if you want
to factor that in of what I don't know. It's

(12:25):
only a couple of sentences because I was just curious.
I watch him and I go, Okay, he's good. I mean,
it could be like Sam Bradford, like okay, but I
don't know if he's great. You know, Dante Moore could
turn out to be a better quarterback. Sellers could turn out.
I mean, you know, you don't know Sellers is coming

(12:47):
back to South Carolina, Yes, Mark, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
With Pavia and Mendoza, this almost feels like a cam
Ward Shadoor Sanders situation where somebody might be the better quarterback,
but the other person is a lightning rod, he's a star.
It's more clicks. It feels like that type of situation.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, and you know you're watching cam Ward yesterday. He
has a couple of plays. It's not a good team.
Shador didn't look good at all against the Bears. Give
the Bears credit though. I mean the Bears, you know,
dominated that game and a lot of takeaways there. You know,
Shador is looking like a rookie quarterback. There are going

(13:25):
to be moments, but right now he's not a good quarterback.
But there's potential there and he's got three more games.
Maybe maybe you see something, they see something where they go,
you know what, let's keep him, Yeah, Paulie.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, and they have draft picks. It'd be interesting that
they try to build their roster and then bring in
a quarterback instead the other way around, which the Browns
usually go for the quarterback and hopefully the roster is decent.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, there was speculation, and I think I brought that
to people's attention that they could trade Shador. But what
are you getting in return? And are they going to
take a quarterback? Are you showcasing him that maybe somebody
would trade for him. I don't know if people look
at him as his starting quarterback, but he is now
He's gotten an opportunity. This is what all the analyst wanted.

(14:11):
Everybody who was you know, pro Dion, pro shador. Oh,
give him a chance, first team. Let's see. Okay, he's
getting that. He's going to give you some highlights. That's
where you're misled. Watch somebody an entire game, you'll get
a real sense of just how good they are. But
we're in a highlight driven world where it's like, man,

(14:35):
that guy look great, and you go, he had four
really good throws? What about the other sixteen that he had?
All right, we'll take a break. Nick Wright set to
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Speaker 3 (15:34):
Mike Tomlin told her reporters on Friday that TJ. Watt
would not be playing tonight against the Dolphins. The medical
procedure in quotation marks that happened Thursday. Released from the hospital,
but he would not be playing tonight in that game.
The Dolphins are three point underdogs. Stat of the day
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(15:57):
of the program. We'll talk to Nick right here coming
up in a moment. Paul has some rookie quarterback stats
that he wants me to choose between.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
So who's rookie stats?

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Would you Who's rookie stats would you want? Quarterback one,
He's played fourteen games, twenty seven hundred yards, fifty nine
percent passer, eleven touchdowns, seven picks. His quarterback rating so
far this season, there's your hint is seventy six point
five quarterback two twelve games as a rookie, twenty one
hundred yards, fifty three percent passer, ten touchdowns, twelve picks.

(16:32):
His quarterback rating was sixty seven point nine, so lesser
in every category. Quarterback one is cam Ward, Yeah, quarterback
two is Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh oh, I thought you were talking about rookies this
year now.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Like all times, just to compare, like, okay, before we
decide on cam Ward or anybody.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I don't know about cam Ward. I once again,
I just see him, and he does have some throws.
But you're not really sitting through a Titans game unless
you have to, unless you know somebody playing for the Titans.
But maybe people watch a little bit more because they
were playing against the forty nine ers. Nick Wright joining
us on the program on Loan from First Things First,

(17:13):
LUs CETV afternoons on Fox Sports one. What's Right with
Nick Wright? On YouTube wherever you get your podcast? What
was the overall feeling going into yesterday's game?

Speaker 10 (17:25):
Well, I'm not answering that question. To start with Dan. First,
I'm going to say this, I have found.

Speaker 13 (17:29):
Out what it takes to get.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
A long awaited return invite after months off the show,
and evidently it's buying you a very expensive bottle of wine,
multiple after dinner drinks and dinner and my football team
having the worst moment of the decade. So glad to

(17:55):
be back under such glorious circumstances, Dan, what was your question?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
You know what was my mood that the dinner didn't
have any impact on bringing you back?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It was really about the Chiefs dying.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
Yeah, you know what, I thought that might have been
the case. And shout out to Fritzy who just really
has created his job. But honestly, I'm not gonna try
to be ablest in any way, but might just have
a little thing off where I mean I think. I
think the CBS was cutting to Mahomes hobbling into the

(18:31):
locker room when I got the text, and there was
just a cursory Sorry, today's tough for you. Are you
available tomorrow?

Speaker 13 (18:40):
Listen.

Speaker 10 (18:40):
My mood yesterday was going into the game that if
they won, I thought they had a very good chance
of making the playoffs because I thought that sports media
in general didn't do it.

Speaker 13 (18:54):
They made it the Chief's.

Speaker 10 (18:55):
Path the playoffs going into yesterday seem very complicated when
it wasn't. It was simply the Colts with the grandfather
playing quarterback, lose at least twice against a brutal schedule,
and if the Chiefs went out and the Chargers lose
to Denver in Week eighteen, plus one other game to
either Houston or the Cowboys, and I was like, well,

(19:16):
all those things are super doable once the game got going.
When the only reason I am not catatonic today is
because to me, the Chiefs season ended on the Chargers
drive before halftime, when they got that touchdown with forty

(19:36):
seconds left, Because that was the seventh different, distinct instance
this season where the Chiefs showed you they're just not
a championship caliber team. There have been so many times
this year that Chiefs teams of the past stand up
and make the big moments. I've compared them to the

(19:58):
great tennis player that no, there's only four or five
points that actually will decide this match, and that's when
I'll be at my best. And the Chiefs team last
year and the years past always were at their best
there this year they were the opposite. So I was
resigned to the loss really and that even okay, maybe
they'll win this game, but they're not going to go

(20:20):
on any type of run. The Patrick injury, it is obviously
devastating for him for the team. You know, was that
the last moments with he and Kelsey on the field together,
I would I don't know that for sure, but it
certainly is more than on the board. It's probably likely

(20:42):
all of that. But I I believe in sports gods,
and I believe in that history, you know, repeats itself
in sports a lot. And I've said more times than
I can count that in year seven, Tom Brady was
going for Super Bowl four, walked onto the field, knowing,

(21:07):
if I win this game, we are the greatest team
of all time. And the next year they lost that game,
and the next year he blew out his knee. Year seven,
Patrick Mahomes was going for Super Bowl four, walked onto
the field, knowing, if we win this game, We're the
greatest team of all time. And then what I'd been
saying is and he didn't blow out his knee, but

(21:28):
they've had the season from hell, and now he also
blew out his knee, and so it just is what
it is. Dan Oh, I wish I could be more positive,
but it sucks, just really sucks.

Speaker 13 (21:39):
It's sports. It happens.

Speaker 10 (21:41):
Packer fans are almost just as sick like Packer fans
are sick in a different way today and so because
they don't, I think this somehow feels worse if the
Chiefs went into that game ten and three, then six
and seven, if you. And that's how Packers fans feel
this morning. Like, man, this season is a real chance.

(22:03):
But I just feel awful for Patrick and for the guys.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
The Chiefs missed the playoffs because.

Speaker 13 (22:10):
They deserve to.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
They a combination of things.

Speaker 13 (22:16):
Man, it is they.

Speaker 10 (22:21):
The playing in three straight Super Bowls and playing in
five of the last six and seven straight conference championship games.
The more than extra season of football that they have
played caught up to them to a degree. They were
not great.

Speaker 13 (22:36):
In fact, they were awful.

Speaker 10 (22:38):
And as I said, those winning moments, those little things
that determined so many pro football games.

Speaker 14 (22:45):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (22:46):
Patrick, for some reason this year was at incredibly shaky
on deep passes, which allowed the defense to constrict and
the progression of the receivers did not happen the way
I thought it would. They had no running game other

(23:06):
than Patrick whatsoever, and they couldn't get a pass rush all.
And by the way, the special teams weren't that good.
So like you add all that up, that's a bad team.
And I there were moments this year, Like when Baltimore
looked like a good team, they housed them. When the
Lions are a good team, just probably not good enough,

(23:27):
they housed them. But for some reason after the bye,
they played poorly in every single game, even the one
game they have won post by the Colts game, they're
down eleven in the fourth quarter, like it took a
miracle to get back in that they just weren't good enough,
Like this is shout out to Jim Kelly. This is

(23:49):
why it's so hard to make four straight Super Bowls,
I suppose, And they just weren't able to get over
the hump at any point this year.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Andy Reid's future is what.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
Head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs like that that
is I am. There are some Chiefs fans that wish
it were different. There's a name for those people, idiots. Listen,
I think Andy, there are some moments this year Andy
would like back, and you know did they have? They
at times gotten spoiled by Patrick's ability to make the

(24:26):
most out of maybe a scheme that has gotten a
little stale ish. Sure, but Andy Reid is one of
the three greatest coaches in the history of the sport
and is currently as we sit here today, the three
time defending AFC champion coach like, do now, would I

(24:48):
like to see some updates to the offense schematically?

Speaker 13 (24:52):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (24:53):
Am I gonna probably put an unfair level of blame
on Matt and Aggy maybe, but Andy Reids that had
go to the Kansasity Chiefs until he doesn't want to
be in my.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Eyes, you start to look at the running game or
lack thereof the offensive line. Patrick takes a lot of hits,
too many second in the league in hits. Now I
know that he does try to extend plays the receivers.
We waited Kelsey. He looks like he's laboring out there,
not having that Chris Jones impactful season. So it felt

(25:28):
like it all kind of just yeah, yeah, get.

Speaker 13 (25:33):
I say something.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
Listen, last year, the offensive line being a reason the
offense wasn't explosive was not an excuse. It was an explanation.
I want to say something about because the Chiefs should
not spend draft resources this year on the offensive line.
They have an all pro center, they have an all

(25:54):
pro right guard. The right guard was out injured yesterday.
The left guard is the kid they drafted to play
tackle in the second round two years ago. He hasn't
been wasn't good at tackle. He was very solid at
left guard this year, and the left tackle Josh Simmons again,
he was out with a personal matter for a month,
and then a few weeks ago he got his wrists

(26:15):
broken by a teammate accidentally trying to help him on
a block, so he's been out. When he was out there,
he was as good as any rookie tackle in football
this year. That's four fifths of your offensive line, and
the right tackles ben Juwan Taylor, who again he was
hurt yesterday. In the last couple of weeks, he's probably
gone because of cap reasons. But the offensive line is

(26:36):
not a problem. The offensive line has been a proba
in the last two weeks because they were down of
their top eight offensive linemen. They were down five of them,
like the injuries were the problem. But the Patrick's never
had a thousand yard rusher, a thousand yard rusher never,
and they they spent a first round pick on Clyde
Edwards Hilaire after winning the first Super Bowl and seem

(26:59):
almost gun shy to spend any resources at that position
since then. But no, that must be addressed, and I
think it will be addressed this offseason.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'm talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things First,
and you can watch that every afternoon Monday through Friday
on Fox Sports one. What's Right with Nick right on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Best team in the
AFC moving forward is who.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
The I mean the best team. The team that has
earned that right now distinction is the Broncos. But the
team de beats the Bills. And this is this is
not me trying to heap extra pressure on Josh Allen.

(27:45):
This is, though a very matter of fact point, which is,
if not now, win for Josh Allen. Since Josh Allen's
been a great player, either Patrick Maho Holmes or Joe
Burrow have knocked him out of the playoffs every single
year Patrick four times, Joe wants they're not in the playoffs.

(28:07):
The other big time, you know, Hall of Fame caliber
quarterback that's been in the playoffs all of those years
or most of them, is Lamar. That team yesterday, notwithstanding,
is broken. He has had no one in the division
to deal with, and now he does have a real
team in the division in the Patriots moving forward. But

(28:29):
I think it's I think it would reasona believe that
Drake May this as good as Drake May is, this
is the worst Drake May will be over the next
five years, because he's just gonna get better. This has
to be the Bill's moment to finally get to.

Speaker 13 (28:44):
A super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
It feels like Josh Allen's making a late charge here
for MVP.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Yeah, I listen, I hope not in this regard. I
hope we don't turn MVP into Player of the Month
for December like Matthews, and there has been too much
of that recently, where the odds shift dramatically in these
late season games. Matthew Stafford's been the MVP of this league,

(29:14):
basically wired to wire. And as the Matthew Stafford's had
one bad game this year, Josh has had like four
really grizzly games. You can say that this that Josh is,
with Mahomes injured, the best player in the league.

Speaker 13 (29:33):
That's fine.

Speaker 10 (29:34):
I do think he is the second best quarterback in
the league over a large sample. But Matthew Stafford's been
the MVP of the league. And by the way, the
Rams they just keep winning and they play a Thursday
night game that they're gonna play without Devonte Adams against
Seattle that if they lose, they are staring at a

(29:57):
wild card. Like they win that game, they're gonna be
the one seeing the huge favorites. They lose and they're,
you know, on the road in Week one of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, that's what I wonder what this standalone game is
going to do because it does impact people's thoughts, good
or bad with a team or a player. And if
the Rams would happen to lose that game, yeah, and
then they would go. It just feels like there is
this ground swell.

Speaker 14 (30:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I got to give Josh Allen credit for closing these
games in the month of December, the hardest games, you know,
to close with the pressure on him and Drake May.
If he had won yesterday, then I think we have
a legitimate two man battle there between Drake May and
Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 10 (30:42):
No, I agree that, and it feels like it's been
between May and Stafford. May was the favorite two weeks
ago when Stafford had the one bad game he's had
this year, but then Drake had a bye, got penalized
for having a bye, and then then Stafford was excellent
once again. I know, I think this standalone game. Absolutely,

(31:04):
they do have a disparate impact on the award.

Speaker 13 (31:07):
But here's the other thing for Stafford.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
If he went like he has more on the line
for this MVP than any player in recent memory in
this regard. No matter what happens in this postseason, if
he wins MVP.

Speaker 13 (31:24):
Dan, he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
Like if he has a Super Bowl Championship plus the
league MVP, he's just gonna be a Hall of Famer. Now,
if he doesn't win MVP and they win the championship,
then he'll be a Hall of Famer that way as well.
But if somehow Allen runs him down for MVP and
they get clipped in a brutal NFC playoffs, then his

(31:47):
Hall of Fame resume becomes very thin in a way
that I don't necessarily think is fair. But I think
he's only like a two time pro bowler has never
come close.

Speaker 13 (31:58):
To an MVP like.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
But so he has, he wins MVP and he's a
Hall of Famer, which will be pretty sick.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But the Lions get the blame for all of that,
not Stafford, Yes.

Speaker 13 (32:11):
They do, but it is.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
It's going to get one of the reasons I think
Philip Rivers coming back was beneficial for him was I
think it raises his chances of being a Hall of
Famer because there's about to be this quarterback kind of
logjam where Breeze is going to get in this year,
so Rivers will.

Speaker 13 (32:35):
Have to wait.

Speaker 10 (32:36):
Eli's already waiting. In two years, Brady comes available, and
by resetting the clock, there's about to be this quarterback
kind of gap of Hall of Fame cow It'll just
be Rivers, who's eligible in five years, and Rogers, and
there's not going to be anybody else in the three

(32:57):
or four years that follow because think about it, who
are the Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks playing right now?
None of them are old guys except for Rogers, So
that you know, like the Dak Stafford is the one
that I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
What about Russell Wilson.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
Man, He's gonna be an interesting case.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I you know, this is did you can make a
case more for Russell than Matthew Stafford?

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Correct? Oh, as we sit here today, Russell has a
stronger case, which is why I'm saying if Stafford wins MVP.
If Stafford wins MVP, then you have just enough of
the credentials to go along with the eye test that
people have always loved.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Thanks again for dinner.

Speaker 13 (33:47):
And no problem.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
Wow, I'm really somehow I I philibustered about matt Stafford's
Hall of Fame chances to avoid the fall of the Chiefs.
I don't know if that's what you brought me on for,
but I I gotta say I was impressed by myself there.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, you filibustered about the Chiefs for at least ten minutes.
Then we brought it. Then we brought it to you
know what, what the country would be interested in, and.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's the MVP with Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
But once again, it was just a thank you for dinner.
It was great, great conn.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
From What do I have to do to qualify to
get one of the blurry signed photos behind you?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Do you mean have one up?

Speaker 13 (34:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, send it to me?

Speaker 10 (34:32):
Oh yeah, wow? Okay me next to Michaels What a
what a dream?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (34:39):
Okay, all right, I'm sitting that Wait what next to
al michaels place?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Just yet, pumped the brakes a little.

Speaker 13 (34:49):
Just there's not many openings. Hold that, Paulie.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yes, that's part of the collective. I got a whole
man cave here.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Nick, Okay, maybe maybe you know what, maybe we all
create a shrine.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
You believe in miracles, Maybe a shrine for you.

Speaker 13 (35:05):
I'll see you guys.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
All right, thanks again.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
That's Nick Right, been a tough twenty four hours, but
you know he had a great you know, Friday night.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Got to buy me dinner.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, well, I'm just glad we found a way to
make it just a little worse. I'll be more than
happy to put a photo of Nick right up, oh
about right next to Anna.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's a little.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Aggress you got to earn. You got to earn that
he does tears on his show. Different levels of greatness.
Nick is great, he's great, but ish albino. Yeah, he's
not up there with Jim Nance and al Michaels, somewhere
between Costas and Michael. Come on, come on, come on,
the different tiers here with the boat. He's probably in

(35:49):
tears right now. Let's take a break. When we come back.
Our best and worst of the weekend. Fox Sports Radio
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within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. How
about best and worst of the weekend? Todd, You're all,

(36:11):
is it resplendent?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Is that when you're a word? Is that when you're
decked out?

Speaker 11 (36:16):
I think that's I think that can work.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay, I think you're using that the right way. Now
your Broncos gear on. You got your Broncos Honkas sweatshirts.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
They do, yes, PAULI resplendent being attractive and impressive through
being richly colorful.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Okay, I think you nail it. You're resplendent.

Speaker 14 (36:31):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'll check that all right. Best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 15 (36:34):
Shockingly, my best the Broncos winning their eleventh straight game
against a tough Packers team, clinching a playoff spot with
three games still left in the regular season. Worst Bengals
getting shut out at home twenty four nothing against division
rival Baltimore.

Speaker 13 (36:45):
Burrough throws two more.

Speaker 16 (36:46):
Picks, including a pick six in consecutive weeks, Cincinnati eliminated
for the playoffs, and reports that the Bengals did not
adequately clear snow from the fan seats. They got to
sit on piles of snow watching it team lose twenty
four to nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
That is violation. I don't know what happened. No Seaton
best in words to the weekend.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
My best of the weekend is the Chiefs not making
the playoffs. That is just delicious.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
You called it, Yeah, nailed it. I take draft. Yeah,
you called it June third.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
If I'm not okay, anybody wants to pull that sound
if we have that or not? My worst of the weekend.
Leathan Ransom is a rookie safety for the Panthers. Closing
seconds of the game, he got I don't know if
it was a good call or not, but he got
flagged for like unnecessary roughness. Tyler Schuck had gone into

(37:35):
a slide and Ransom just clabbed him, hit him hard.
But I don't know. It seemed like a bank bank
played to me. Might have been a garbage flag. However,
that took a sixty two yard field goal and turned
it into a forty seven yard field goal. And that's
the ballgame.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, and you wonder they don't make the playoffs. You
might look back on that. Marvin Best and Worst to
the weekend.

Speaker 11 (37:52):
Best and worst at the weekend. Jordan Smith from South
Carolina state the wide receiver nine reception of one hundred
and fifty two yards two touchdowns as South Carolina State
Beast Prairie View A and M in four overtime.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I was exciting.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
I actually watched it that whole game. Yeah, yeah, I
don't have much going.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
On because I watched it. Because after that of his
Army Navy Paulie best and worst.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Army versus Navy. The wide receiver for a Navy Eli
Heidenreich six catches seventy two yards. Six catches for a
Navy wide receiver is like thirty to any other college receiver.
He's fantastic. And I really hope, I really hope, Dan,
you got to stay on this one.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
Ooh.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
They must keep this a standalone weekend. You have Army Navy,
then you have games like the SWACK and then the
FCS playoffs.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I don't think so. I think with playoffs coming up,
extended playoffs.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Yeah, we're gonna have to get a little patriotic on
him because the Army Navy game gets a big rating
because of that and the other the worst of the
weekend Washington Husky's thirty eight the Bronco State Broncos, but
Boise State Broncos ten in the bucked up LA Bowl.
You know, that's just not the bucked up LA Bowl
that I grew up on.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Well, that's the Gronk Bowl. Yeah, gush in La, Hi, Gus,
what's on mind today?

Speaker 14 (39:02):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope and the boys had a
great weekend. Yeah, that's to the weekend. Had been calling
it for weeks. Man Fernandum and Doze and man, Man,
the kid is polished, man, That's what I gotta say
about him and everything. I pray to God that the
Raiders don't ruin his career that bad. I think it
goes number one worst of the weekend. The war of
attrition is here. Man. You've seen all these you know,

(39:25):
all these players go down with injuries. Hopefully it doesn't
derailed their playoff hopes for their perspective teams, except obviously
for Patty Mahomes. This is kind of an odd one
for me. This isn't the worse of the weekend. But
over the weekend I saw a lot of universities do
something that I guess is going to be the new
normal moving forward from now on in athletics, and that

(39:46):
is the announcement of resigning of their players.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (39:51):
Well it's like a little weird, but it's like I
saw a bunch of that, Like, like USC they announced
the resigning of like eight players, and I'm like, it's
a little eye. I mean, it's a bad thing, but
it's weird to be like we agreed to terms to
resign our cornerback and I'm like, oh, that's that's a
little weird.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
You boys have a great week, Take care all right, Anyboddy,
thank you, Gus.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, resigning your players, you know, once again, it's just
another reason to have social media reinforcing what you have.
That's all this is content to put out, Hey, look
who we're keeping.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
It didn't happen that way before, but then there wasn't
the transfer portal. Now there is, so it's a big deal.
Like I want to know, is Michigan keeping their quarterback?
Who would have to come in to make sure you
kept him? Because it certainly feels like and he started.
Bryce Underwood started following LSU on his social media like

(40:50):
uh oh, and that was the school he was going
to go to until Michigan came in with some heavy hitters.
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