August 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan discusses the media perception of Jalen Hurts, who can win but might not put up the most yards as a quarterback. And former Saints quarterback Drew Brees talks to Dan about his playing days, if he wants a statue in New Orleans and whether he could beat Tom Brady in a race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Meet Friday, Dan and the Dan Ench Dan
Patrick Show. Our starting lineup, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Paul Ears
truly and of course the back room guys. Stat of
the day brought to is always Bob Panini America, the
official trading cards of the program. Have another poll question,
more phone calls coming up. Drew Brees will stop by
(00:26):
in about twenty minutes from now eight seven to seven
to three. DP Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take
your phone calls. Let's clean up our mess from our
one with the poll question Seaton, and then we'll dive
into preseason last night in this weekend. Yeah, we got
up there right now.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Which position can a team least afford to lose a
Pro Bowl player? Offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback or wide receiver.
Those are your four options right now. Seventy four percent
of that vote going to offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, that's a big loss, big loss for the Chargers.
And Rashaan Slater is one of the He's on the
short list of best left tackles in football, and your
whole offense is predicated on having that left tackle, being
able to run the football, and now Joe Old has
to go from right tackle to left tackle, and then
you're gonna have to have somebody replace him at right tackle,
(01:20):
and then it's a domino effect there. But this is
a really big loss, and he just signed that contract
extension justin Herbert coming off his best QBR If you
buy into that and they were able to run the football,
he didn't have a lot of yards there. I think
yards are overrated. Sometimes you'll go, hey, that guy through
(01:41):
for five thousand yards. I mean Jamis Winston. I think
one's through for five thousand yards?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Was that the.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thirty for thirty year? Thirty touchdown passes, thirty interceptions. I
mean a lot of guys, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
They got a lot of yards.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now Drew Brees has a lot of yards as well,
but he's got a Super Bowl to show for it.
You know, Tom Brady played such a long time saying
with Drew Brees that they were going to accumulate sixty
seventy thousand yards and Jalen Hurts is not a guy
who's going to put up big yards. And I think
because of that, we look at him and maybe he's
(02:22):
just a great football player. Maybe he's a good quarterback
and a great football player, and that, you know, might
sound strange to you. I think he just knows how
to play the position. But as far as the numbers
that go along with being a great quarterback, you know,
he doesn't measure up to them. And maybe that's where
he is not in the top five with people. Maybe
(02:45):
in some people's you know rankings, since everybody's got a ranking,
he's not in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But he does know how to win.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Imagine if he would win another Super Bowl not out
of the realm of possibilities and being the MVP. Now
you've been to three Super Bowls, you won two and
your two time MVP, Well, now you're a Hall of Famer.
Right If Russell Wilson gets the second Hall of Famer,
(03:15):
it feels like like there's certain players. Is Lamar Jackson
a Hall of Famer already? And I would say, yes,
it's Josh Allen a Hall of Famer already? I would
say probably yes. Now, there was a caller who called
in yesterday, I believe yesterday or the day before, and
(03:38):
he said, what if we looked at careers in reverse order.
So we looked at Russell Wilson and we said, man,
he's kind of struggled a little bit. But then you
get to the beginning of his career, which if we
flipped it would be at the end of his career,
and you go, man, he had a great career.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You know, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
If you flip it and you have him winning a
Super Bowl and then he goes to the Lions and
doesn't do anything, is he a Hall of Famer? And
the answer would be probably not, because we'd look at
it and it wouldn't be recency biased. We would say, well,
he didn't do anything after he won a Super Bowl.
Aaron Rodgers, it's been fourteen years since he won a
(04:19):
Super Bowl. Russell Wilson had success early, and it feels
like when you kind of limped towards the finish line.
You know, John Elway was a Hall of Famer, but
those last two Super Bowls that he won, all of
a sudden, John moved up the list of greatest quarterbacks
of all time. But if we flip careers and say
(04:41):
what did you do early and what did you do
later in your career, you know we might be looking
at some careers differently.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, Pauli Russell Wilson had eight playoff wins in his twenties.
He's had one in his thirties. Well, so at age thirty,
let's say he got hurt or whatever would have happened
to him. He probably cruse to the Hall of Fame
if he somehow stopped playing at thirty due to injury.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And we were looking at rushing touchdowns, we're looking at
rushing yards for quarterbacks. And I'll go back to what
Steve Young has said numerous times on the show. Hall
of Famer said, the yards are out there, go get them.
He said, that's today's quarterback. They're giving you yards. Go
get them. Be smart when you get them. But they're there.
(05:25):
They have design plays. You know, Josh Allen is getting
those yards, Lamar Jackson getting those yards. That's what today's
quarterback has to do. Jalen Hurts getting yards out there.
And now all of a sudden, you're going to look
at yardage totals for quarterbacks and you're going to say,
somebody's going to rush for nine thousand yards like Lamar
(05:47):
Jackson's at sixty two hundred yards right now, not out
of the realm of possibilities that he adds another three
thousand yards to his rushing career. He's twenty eight years
of age. Two time MVP can end up with nine
thousand rushing yards, maybe ten thousand rushing yards Josh Allen.
Then you start to look at touchdowns. Does Cam Newton
(06:11):
have the most rushing touchdowns fully for.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
A quarterback all time? Cam Newton's seventy five, but Josh
Allen is just behind him at sixty five.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh yeah, Cruise passed him. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
The one yard goal line touchdown is becoming the norm.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
How many touchdowns does Jalen Hurts have?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He already has fifty five. I think he's twenty six
years old, twenty seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Did you see when they ran the push tush tush
push Tanner McKee, Now he's a big guy and he
doesn't squat, you know, six hundred pounds like Jalen Hurts.
When he tried to run that tush push, it looked different.
That's why you know they'll be successful with a quarterback sneak.
(06:56):
If they take that out, Jalen Hurts will still make
it successful because there's no quarterback in the NFL who
can leg press six hundred pounds just being able to
generate that power. You're not going to stop him. But
you know, we've seen this with Josh Allen. He's too tall.
We saw that in the postseason where you stop him
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and Jalen Hurts, you're not going to stop that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You can take that play out. You're not going to
stop him.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yes, Marvin, this might be an unfair comparison, but do
you think Jalen Hurts might have the same career as
a Troy Akoman where he's never regarded as the best
quarterback in the game, but he just collected rings on
a really, really, really good team and where people don't
even people never even considered Troy Akman not a Hall
(07:45):
of Famer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Troy was a really good passer, but that offense was
so balanced that he didn't need They never asked him to.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did he ever throw for thirty touchdowns? I don't know
if I don't think he did, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Pauli, Troykman never threw for twenty five touchdowns in this season.
He averaged in his peak years twenty three fifteen thirteen,
sixteen low interceptions. They ran the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
How would we view Let's say Jalen Hurts did this
for the Cowboys, how would we view Jalen Hurts. Would
Jalen Hurts be the best quarterback in football?
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Once again, I'm looking at the media coverage and how
they would change maybe their opinion because we look at
the Eagles and you start talking about Saquon Barkley, the
offensive line, the defensive line, got great receivers, and Jalen Hurts.
You don't lead with Jalen Hurts, but he's done everything
that we should be leading with that. Saquon Barklay had
(08:45):
one of the great seasons in running back history to
do what he did and then cap it off and
win the Super Bowl, and that overshadowed Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Mark, maybe if he had a season like Patrick Mahomes
with the fifty touchdowns, if he had a really big
season with gaudy numbers.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I don't think he's ever gonna have that.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Oh I know, I know. But as far as him
being a cowboy and if he was doing this for
the Cowboys, to me, it might be relatively the same,
But more media coverage.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think they would. I think the media would look
at him differently. If he did this for the Cowboys
and he's winning championships, I mean, oh my goodness. It's
just with Philadelphia. It just feels like we go, oh
and look, I say this, it's the best run organization.
Them and the Chiefs. They've draft well, they re signed
(09:34):
players free agency. They built both lines offense, defensive line. Everything.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
See, I think this is kind of Jalen Hurt's story.
I mean, it's what's happening at the Eagles and the
way he's covered there is no different than what happened
at Alabama. He couldn't even prove he was the best
quarterback at Alabama, and now he can't prove that he's
a good quarterback at the Eagles. I think it's something
that people just have planted in their head that now
that's just sort of who he is. He's not really
(10:02):
the guy, but he kind of is. I don't know,
is he yes, he's great now, I don't know he's
it's the team, is it?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
In Well, sometimes when you look at always the second
round draft pick or Lamar Jackson at the end of
the first round, that all these teams passed on these guys,
and then it's hard to Christen them, you know, better
than Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, who were drafted higher.
But he's had far more success.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, Paul, Like you said, we judge quarterbacks on yardages
and touchdowns to interceptions, but there's not a stat least
amount of mistakes. It seems like Jalen Hurts always makes
the right decision, does not take unnecessary hits, but runs
when he needs to. Last year, fifteen starts, eighteen touchdowns.
That's not special, but only five picks.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Coaches will love that.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Five picks in entire NFL seasons.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
He runs the ball efficiently.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but didn't Justin Herbert have twenty three touchdowns in
three interceptions his best year quarter Yeah, let me get
a couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
J in the Bay, Hi, j.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
ADP.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
So, my buddy Travis grew up in San Diego and
went to school at Arizona, and so his three favorite
sports teams are the Chargers, the Padres, and Arizona men's basketball.
I was wondering between you and the dan Nettes and
potentially a poll question which one of those teams would
(11:33):
be the most frustrating team to be a fan of
and most importantly suck at Travis.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Is it okay?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So Padres, Chargers and Arizona basketball. Arizona is usually, you know,
one of one of the top four seeds. We've had
that where they are number one seed. Like Padres they
are always they're they're they become more interesting, but they're
(12:03):
not the favorites. Arizona has been on the short list
of favorites to win a national championship. Chargers, They're frustrating
for me because I would always I think I fell
in love with the uniforms I do. It's it's when
you fall in love with the beautiful girl and you
don't notice the other flaws. Yeah, she maybe she uh well,
(12:26):
we don't need to get into details there, but she's
beautiful and then she's got a weird of you know,
laugh or something, and like the Chargers are that beautiful girl.
It's just I sound like Colin Cowherd coming up with
an analogy. Here you go, Colin, that's for you. Shout
out yes, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
It seems like this is obvious. But the past thirty
ish years for the Chargers tons of talent. There's regular
talent on that roster. They never feel like a bad team.
I bet they've had like four losing seasons in the
past thirty. You know, you get Tomless and you get
Breeze at the same time you get Rivers.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You can go on and on.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Now you have Herbert. You've always had high end talent
at the skill positions. You just can't close.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, would you say that it's in that order?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was Arizona basketball, the Chargers, and then the Padres.
Chargers have been to a super Bowl, Arizona's won a
national title. Pile up, piles, I'm thinking, Miles Simon.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
That's the last time we won a national title.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I know. And then the Padres have been to
what a couple of World Series?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Ton, how many.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
Bracket sheets I know, I'm one that's had that happen
over the years, have been destroyed because you bought into Arizona,
thought they were going to the Final four, Elite eight,
and then they didn't even get to the sweep. It happens, Yes,
constantly crossing off Arizona in the middle.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They will not do that to me ever again. If
they win, great, I'll celebrate you. And if the Padres
win or Chargers win, I'll celebrate you. But I haven't
bought into the Padres. I like what they did. They're
all in to try to win. I love that. Love
a good rivalry, or try to stand up to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But the other teams, I've done that, I've gone down
that road. I've held hands and then all of a
sudden they break my heart. They just want to be friends.
Z Yeah, friend zone. I had a crushing friend zone
one growing up. I was absolutely in love and freshman
(14:33):
freshman year in college and I never would have dated me,
I'm going to say that. And all of a sudden,
this cheerleader had an interest in me, and I'm like,
all right, maybe she sees the jumper because there's nothing
else to see, and maybe it must be the stilky
smooth jumper. Yeah, hey, let's go out on a date.
(14:54):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Can I just watch you?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Shoot?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Actually it's hey, what are you doing? You want to
come watch me? Shoot?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You asked around and she said, oh, you're selling this story.
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I was. I didn't realize.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
I thought you were just kind of waxing poetic about
the whole background.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It still hurts.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I'm sure it does real to you.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, it is real to me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And then I realized that she she wanted to just
be friends.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That was it. And she goes, I think you're getting
the wrong impression. I go, what that you're really really
in love with me?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Uh? She goes, I just you know, I find you
funny And I go, funny, come a clown. Yeah, I
thought she was laughing at me. Yeah, that one was tough.
And then she ended up dating my teammate. No need
(15:57):
to mention any.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Name that she's more into a cisten and scoring wherever gal. Yeah,
she wasn't into scoring like guys.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Banging in the painting? Whoa what is his family? Family?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Double on Andre? I like, does anybody have a single
on Tondre? It's always a double on Andre. I don't know.
Let that marinate a little bit. Thank you, all right, Tod,
Welcome Drew Brees set to join us. Let's take a
break here, Okay, let's all take a break.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, Paul, single and andre is In the dictionary, a
phrase as a single often body meeting.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Okay, so body.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Double on Andre A phrase has two meetings, one of
them innocent one of them.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Body, Body, Okay, that's the andre you want.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Let's take a break here, Okay, back after this Dan
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
More phone calls coming up a seven to seven to
three DP show, Seaton, what's the poll question for the
second hour of this program?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, right now?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Hour one is just it's pretty dominated by the offensive.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Tackle, okay, which I get. Okay, we have one here
from Todd which I don't know if you're ready for.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
We might want to save.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That, Okay, we'll save it to after Drew Brees. Yeah yeah,
I think so. Todd has a uh not safe for
work Limerick as well.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm gonna have to wait and digest that one. That
seems reasonable, Thank you, Todd. It is a Friday, you
get a little Friday fritzy. I just want to make
sure we're not getting too squarely there. Okay, yeah, yeah,
got standard. I'm a journalist.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You are journalists.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Anyone that suggests otherwise.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Today to today, I'm a journalist, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, you're the don Data of journalists.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I'm an alligator.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Sorry, he's Drew Brees, future Hall of Famer, super Bowl
MVP winner and joining us on behalf of Jimmy John's
and Drew Brees number nine. Uh well, look at all
the posters back there, they're all pictures of you.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
Well since since you, since I'm not behind you. You know,
amongst some of the all time broadcasting grades. I see
Bob Costas, I see al Michael. You know, I figured
I had to kind of create my own setup back here.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Let's go back to your broadcasting career looking back on it. No,
but I I know you want to do this and
you're a competitor and you want to be great. What
is it that maybe you missed understanding or doing the
first go round to be your broadcasting career.
Speaker 12 (19:19):
Well, here's where I kind of chuckled, man, because I
get the perception. I get the feeling that the perception
is it somehow, you know, I failed at being a broadcaster.
I got two opportunities to broadcast NFL games, and they
were like eight weeks apart. I did one game in
New Orleans for Thanksgiving, and I did one playoff game.
(19:41):
Otherwise I did I broadcasted Notre Dame football. But really,
when I took that job with NBC, the idea was
to work with some of the best people in the business,
the Mike Trico, Tony Dungee, Rob Hyland, like Fred Gadelli,
all the guys that are legendary guys in that organization.
And man, I'm so thankful that I had that opportunity.
But at the same time, what I really did, for
(20:02):
the most part, was sit behind a desk and do
Sunday Night Football, the Sunday Night Football Football nine in America,
and then you know, a bunch of stuff in stadium
at the desk and then the Super Bowl broadcast, but
again at the desk.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
So at the end of the day, like I chuckle, because.
Speaker 12 (20:18):
Even as I look at the landscape right now, man,
I have so much respect for a lot of guys
in the booth right now. But I'd step into booth
right now and be a top three guy, like without question,
and then you give me a few years and I
could be the best.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
So look, I love the game. I love talking about
the game.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
I feel like I have an insight to the game
that is pretty unique. You know, given my playing experience,
I see the game a totally different way. I process
it a different way. And so even as I watch
games now and I just kind of listened to, you know,
the commentary and this and that and what I'm seeing,
I just feel like there's.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
So much more to add.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
And so look, at the end of the day, I'm
gonna wait for the right opportunity and you know, hopefully
it comes along. And if it doesn't, that's okay too,
cause I'm coaching ball and I'm involved in the game
in so many other ways. But I do feel like
I have a ton of value to add in the booth,
and so I'm appreciative of Netflix giving me the opportunity
to broadcast on Christmas Day. And I'm not sure exactly
which game, as can be, there's too on the slate,
(21:11):
but that'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, but it'd be like asking you to start a
game maybe in the preseason, then start a game, you know,
late in a season, and say you weren't consistent. It's
you need you need repetition in this. You got to
be there at weekend and week out.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and so it's it's I think
the unfortunate part about just that year was that the
thing I wanted to do most was broadcast NFL games.
The thing I had the opportunity to do the least
was broadcast NFL games. Now I had a chance to
do everything right. I was in studio, I was at
the stadium, did the Super Bowl pregame. I broadcast a
(21:48):
little college, I broadcasted a little NFL. So I got
exposure to everything, and man, I retained it all, like
every bit of coaching from all those guys, and I'm
very appreciative of that. But you know, when when I
when I I departed because I wanted to.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
I wanted to.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Spend more time with my kids on the weekends coaching ball,
and unfortunately that was the schedule didn't work out, having
a fly to Connecticut, you know, every week, and also
doing the Notre Dame games. So it was my decision
to step away from NBC. It was not theirs. They
wanted me back, and again I felt like I had
(22:25):
a great relationship with him during that time. Unfortunately, I
think it got reported a little bit differently, and now
somehow that's become the narrative. It could not be further
from the truth. You can go talk to Pete Bvakua,
who is the head of NBC Sports. You can go
talk to Sam Flood, you can go talk to any
of those guys, Mike Trico, Rob Hyland. Then I had
a great relationship with those guys, and they wanted me back.
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Unfortunately the schedule just didn't work given the fact that
I wasn't really able to do what I wanted to do,
which is broadcast NFL games.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Is there a statue of you in New Orleans?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
No, there's not.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Would you like to have a statue of you a New.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Or I don't need a statue, you know what, there's
a statue of Steve Leeson and that's that's one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well, I and I'm being serious.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I know you're being modest here, but when you think
about an athlete and what he meant to a city,
I don't know if there's another athlete who meant more
to a city than you did, or do to New Orleans.
Speaker 12 (23:25):
Look, I think all of us if you go back
to you know that time two thousand and six, Sean
Payton comes in there as the head coach. I mean
literally his first free agent signing was Scott Fujita, right,
who was a mainstay on our defense, who was one
of my good good friends, like and then just all
the little pieces that came together, you know, six oh seven,
O eight, which culminated our Super Bowl victory and O
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nine and then really just an incredible run throughout our
fifteen years there.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
There were so many people that were part of that.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
So it's not I mean, even as you would sit
here and say, hey, maybe Sean Payton and I get
a lot of the credit, at the end of the day,
I think we just take pride in the fact that
we had a chance to be a part of something
really really special, really unique, probably unprecedented from the perspective
of what happened to city where the team was, as
far as just the organization and just the perception that
(24:14):
people had of the Saints and then all of a
sudden being able to come together and create what was
one of the greatest runs I think in certainly NFL history,
professional sports history, and I think the reputation now of
what a team means to a city and really the
standard of what a team can mean to a city.
(24:38):
I feel like the New Orleans Saints represent that as
well as any wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And I would have the statue of you to be
the actual size to scale. I would have it being
six feet so people can say, wow, he did it
at that height. I'm his height or I'm taller than him.
I don't want it to be seven feet tall. I
wanted to be six feet. Maybe you think you're six
to one, but maybe it's six feet. Can you be
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too short to play quarterback in the No.
Speaker 12 (25:07):
Here's if you go back to you need the perspective
of having the linemen in front, you know. So it's
like it's like one of those It's like one of
those statues where you got like, you know, it's like
the cavalry, you know, and you got the big horses
in front, you know, like that's what you need for
the perspective.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
So you're gonna be hidden behind your offences line.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
Like the six foot sixth light in front of perspective
of see through these guys. No, look, I don't think
you can be too short. Look, there's that there's that
prototype size that maybe we all have in our mind
for each position.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
In fact, I'm sure there's.
Speaker 12 (25:45):
A lot of scouts that made a great living, you know,
through the years, with just having that that mold or
that model for each position. I know that Sean Payton
had a little bit of that because he got it
from parcels like I would.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I would.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
I was in these discussions all the time as to
what positions were supposed to look like. Apparently the only
one that could have quite a bit of variation was
the running back position. He's like, they parcels just say
they come in all shapes and sizes. They just need
to have a big lower half, right, otherwise they're going
to constantly be in the shop, so to speak, They're
going to be injured. So I mean, like the darren
(26:19):
Sprolls is right, five foot seven, you know, one hundred
and eighty pounds, but it was one of the most
dynamic players in the history.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
In the NFL, I think from a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
Keep in mind too, not only was I shore, but
I came in the league behind a guy named Doug Flutie, who,
in my opinion, is one of the greatest quarterbacks in
all of professional football. And obviously he played every level
of it, from the USFL to the CFL to the NFL.
But he was doing things that were ahead of his time,
(26:51):
and I don't think he gets the appreciation for it.
He was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Everything you see
Mahomes do, I saw Fluty do every day in practice,
from the no look throws to the back shoulder throw
to just like manipulating defenders with his eyes, buying time like.
He just had such an incredible feel for the game,
and a lot of the things he did he did
out of survival, right like you think about it, I
(27:12):
think some of the greatest innovations in history is because hey,
there was a problem that needed to be solved, or
he had a limitation that you had to overcome in
some way with some other sort of talent and so
like truly he did things out of survival, like he
would have been able to play the position if he
wasn't able to do these things. But I had a
front row seat to this for four years with the
(27:34):
Santigo Charters, and some ask his backup, and then in
other cases he is my backup. But nonetheless he was
an incredible mentor for me and I learned so much
from and so therefore I would say he played the
game at five nine and a half or whatever Doug was.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
I don't think that's I don't think that's a limitation.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm talking to Drew Brees, the future Hall of famerous
Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
What are you doing with Jimmy Johns so well?
Speaker 12 (27:57):
First off, so I've been a fan of Jimmy Johns
since night ninety seven my freshman year at Purdue University.
I showed up to Wiley Hall my freshman year and
you're staying up late studying right Dan, and three o'clock
in the morning, you're starving, and the only place open
is Jimmy Johns. So you dial up Jimmy Johns and
literally fifteen minutes later, you got some dude rolling up
on a bike to hand you with Jimmy john sandwich.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
It's like the greatest pie of food in the world.
Speaker 12 (28:20):
So literally that was like what I lived on three
days a week in college. So I've had a relationship
with Jimmy Johns for a long time. I've been at
Jimmy John's franchise hear here in New Orleans. We built
out this market about fifteen years ago, so I've always
loved the brand and it's been a great partnership. But
they're supporting our foundation. So actually for the entire month
of August, so all the way to August thirty first,
you can walk into with Jimmy Johns and just order
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my favorite sandwich and they named that for me this month.
So you just say, I want to Breeze number nine,
And basically that's gonna be ham Capacola salami.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
It's the Italian night club. All those lettuce, tomato onions.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
You get to oil and vinegar, salt, pepper, the basil
o'regano mix.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
But it's no cheese ad hot peppers.
Speaker 12 (28:59):
That's the little, you know, the little extra that we're
throw in this to make it the Breeze number nine
and not just the number nine so, and all the
proceeds are going to the Breech String Foundation of British
and girls clubs around the country, So appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
With Jimmy Johnson, how do you know what to look
for or should we know what to look for with
rookie quarterbacks in preseason?
Speaker 12 (29:20):
Well, first thing I say is experience. I just take
obviously a ton of qbs have been you're after here
of the last you know, three years, you know, in
the first round so or four years so, First and foremost,
how many games? How many high level starts do they
have in college? And I think that makes a huge difference.
I think if you just start looking at, hey, the
guys that had forty fifty even six bone necks sixty
(29:43):
one starts in college, those guys come into the league
a lot more well prepared than the guys who, man,
there's a ton of talent, a ton of upside, a
ton of potential started fifteen games, started, seventeen games. There's
just you just need I think, I think forty to
fifty high level starts before you really kind of find
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that that comfort level. And so if you do take
a guy like that, then it's going to take two
or three years. Obviously the team that you're part of,
the system that you're in that has that plays a
big role in it. But I think first and foremost
you have to look at experience and then how are
you building the system around him? What type of what
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type of runway does he have in order to grow
and develop? You know, I think you looked at the
guy's probably who had the most success last year. Jade
Daniels bonis right. So those two examples. Jane Daniels Bunce
just starts at Arizona State, comes to LSU, bunch of
high level starts there, he comes to the league.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I think very well prepared.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Bo Neck sixty one starts right between Auburn and Oregon,
comes in fairly well prepared.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
So I think that's a big that's a big factor.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm wondering how we're going to look at quarterbacks in
the future because Lamar Jackson could end up with ten
thousand rushing yards, which is unheard of. I mean for
a running back, ten thousand yards is a great career.
Josh Allen, he could end up with eight thousand yards rushing.
You look at the number of touchdown Josh Allen's going
to end up with more rushing touchdowns than any other
quarterback in history.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He'll move past Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So I don't know how we everybody's thrown for a
lot of yards, but now you have this other category
in here, how will we differentiate or assess quarterbacks? You know,
bigger picture Hall of Fame wise, when you're adding something
that we really haven't seen the Michael Vick gave us this,
Steve Young, a little bit Cam Newton gave us. Now
(31:35):
it feels like, as Steve Young told me many times,
there's yards to get, Go get them.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
If you're a quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Look, it's a great point.
Speaker 12 (31:45):
It's a great point because I think when you start
talking about qvs in history and the comparisons, you immediately
go to the passing statistics, and obviously in today's game,
it's so much more than that. At the end of
the day, what's your job. Your job is to go
put your team in the end zone, and so however
you can do that, it doesn't matter whether it's through
the air or on the ground. I think that Steve
(32:05):
Young quote is a great one. There's yards to get,
you know, go get them. There's first downs to get,
go get them. So however, you can do that. That's
why the whole QB rating thing is always so wonky, right,
because it's like, well, how are we really evaluating the
efficiency or the productivity of a quarterback when you have
all these different layers to it. I mean, you should
have somebody sitting there going, man, he threw the ball away.
(32:26):
That was actually an incredible decision. That shouldn't work against
him on the QB rating. Right, So you have all
these factors and at the end of the day, did
you possess the ball, did you get first towns and
push team in the end zone? Did you score points?
Was that complimentary to your defense and that gets you
to win? I mean that's that's that's truly how you
should be evaluated.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, also, when you don't take a sack. I mean
that's like there's little things. I agreed QBR to me,
I don't like it. I want to know if you
won the game, it's the most important to that. Yeah,
but they don't have a category.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I think you actually brought up a
good point.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
I think one of the greatest traits of a quarterback
that is never discussed, especially in the evaluation of it,
is their ability to avoid SAPs and avoid negative plays
that when you just look start looking at the probabilities
and the percentages of success on you know, third and
(33:26):
six versus third and ten, and just like your ability
to avoid negative plays, and a lot of times too
that could just be, Hey, I have a decision when
I walk up the line of scrimmage to run the
ball right, run the ball left, run it inside, to
run it outside. And the decision that you make, in
large part could be the difference between a two or
three yard gain or a one yard loss. And so
there's so many of these decisions that are made within
the framework of a game where if I'm evaluating qbs
(33:49):
and I'm sitting there watching the tape, I want to
know what type of decision maker they are, because if
they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow.
There's a lot of things that we can fix fundamentally
and whatever, Hey, you missed a throw, but you're true
to the right place and you're on time. That's fine,
we can fix that, right. But if you have a
great decision mate, and process, and you were consistently making
(34:10):
good decisions and you're avoiding sacks and you're putting yourself
in favorable positions, meaning high probability for success positions, then
you're gonna win a ton of games. And I think
when you really start to break it down, that's what
you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Great to catch up with you again.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Hope the family's well, and good luck with Jimmy Johns
and Boys and Girls Clubs of America.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Thank you, DP.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a future Hall of Famer there, Drew Brees his
longest run twenty three yards. He ran for seven hundred
yards in his career. That's that's Lamar j That's a
down year for Lamar running. Buddy, wasn't paid, right, But
you weren't paid to run. You weren't paid to run.
(34:52):
You could have been elusive, right.
Speaker 12 (34:54):
He move the chase, get your team, Okay, I'd much
rather throw it to the guys.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Could you outrun Peyton Manning?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Absolutely smoke him, crush him.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Could you outrun Tom.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
He's all torso? Oh Brady, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
Brady would be at the twenty five yard line when
I crossed the forty?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Wow, how would you do against Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
No, he would be at the forty You're still competitive?
Thank you, Budding. We'll take a break more phone calls
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(36:07):
faced off against either one of these guys. But do
we have a matchup of three thousand strikeout I'm sure
we do, But when's the last time that we had them?
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Well?
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Say Young, Zach and Minnesota Hi Zach. Thanks for holding
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (37:37):
Lauren Dan and Dan App six foot three, two fifty five.
How are you guys doing this morning?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Spectacular?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Awesome? Hey, I told Tyler my call in about a question,
but I'm gonna throw a couple of things at you
to start happy. Gilmour too loved it, loved the caterpillar
that you had on your left. That mustache was brilliant.
Thank you, and you should rock that thing more often.
(38:09):
So this could be a poll question for you guys,
which NFL coach do you trust more to win the
Super Bowl this year? We're gonna go with Kyle Shanahan,
Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, and then I'm gonna throw in
a caveat of Sean Payton. He's already won one, but
(38:31):
he's now obviously in Denver. So I wanted to throw
that at you guys.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, and it's not necessarily the coach, Thank you, Zach.
I mean you got to have the roster because we
saw what happened to Detroit when they lost Aiden Hutchinson.
It doesn't matter how good Dan Campbell is as a coach,
he can't replace Aiden Hutchinson. That's I would go with.
Give me the coach who has the best roster, the
healthiest roster. Yeah, Jim Harball just lost his starting left tackle.
(39:00):
Sean Payton has high hopes for the Broncos. And bo Nicks,
and it feels like there's members of the media who
are looking at the Broncos and saying it's more than
just a playoff team. Todd has his Bronco Is that
a sweatshirt? On?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Today?
Speaker 10 (39:16):
I ordered this when Russell Wilson first came to Denver.
I got all excited. I thought this was going to
be the third quarterback to lead Denver to a Super
Bowl title with Manning in Lway. So basically it shows
Russell Wilson like arm in arm with Manning and Lway,
like they're the big trio of Super Bowl Bronco champions,
which obviously did.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Not play on that one. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Anne in Wisconsin. Hi Anne, Good morning. What's on your
mind today?
Speaker 13 (39:40):
Happy meat Friday?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (39:42):
I know how much you've love, loved, so I wanted
to share this story. My husband, head basketball coach Matt
Hockett at UWSP, got me tickets for tonight's show in
Wisconsin in Milwaukee for Darius Rutger, and on the ticket
it says that he is performing with a special guest.
(40:06):
I just need to confirm that it's not going to
be Todd Forritt.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
And it's it's not going to be Todd, right, Todd,
it is not.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
So she's trying to say that she's going to cancel
going to the event if I'm the special.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
She just wanted to make sure that she was kind
of geared up correctly.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I don't know if it was a shot.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
So she's like hoping, are.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
You making fun of Todd? Ann?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (40:27):
Never, never, I wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
To do that. And can you have Tyler put you
on hold? And I want to get your number. Would
you guys like to meet Darius before the show tonight?
Speaker 13 (40:42):
Oh my gosh, that would be a dream come true.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Thank you so much, Dan.
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Yeah, all right, you stay on hold and then I'll
get your number and then let me see if I
can get you backstage to meet Darius.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yes, Tom, you are a stud.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
You just make dreams come true, like you know, you
just pull these things out of a hat.
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That's very nice, thank you. And I'm a journalist.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
You're a journalist and a very thoughtful person and.
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A gentleman and a gentleman and I love love. How
about we take a break. We got sixty more minutes,
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Which position can a team least afford to lose a
Pro Bowl player? Offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback or wide receiver.
Those are your four options right now. Seventy four percent
of that vote going to offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, that's a big loss, big loss for the Chargers.
And Rashaan Slater is one of the He's on the
short list of best left tackles in football, and your
whole offense is predicated on having that left tackle, being
able to run the football, and now Joe Old has
to go from right tackle to left tackle, and then
you're gonna have to have somebody replace him at right tackle,
(01:20):
and then it's a domino effect there. But this is
a really big loss, and he just signed that contract
extension justin Herbert coming off his best QBR If you
buy into that and they were able to run the football,
he didn't have a lot of yards there. I think
yards are overrated. Sometimes you'll go, hey, that guy through
(01:41):
for five thousand yards. I mean Jamis Winston. I think
one's through for five thousand yards?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Was that the.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thirty for thirty year? Thirty touchdown passes, thirty interceptions. I
mean a lot of guys, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
They got a lot of yards.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now Drew Brees has a lot of yards as well,
but he's got a Super Bowl to show for it.
You know, Tom Brady played such a long time saying
with Drew Brees that they were going to accumulate sixty
seventy thousand yards and Jalen Hurts is not a guy
who's going to put up big yards. And I think
because of that, we look at him and maybe he's
(02:22):
just a great football player. Maybe he's a good quarterback
and a great football player, and that, you know, might
sound strange to you. I think he just knows how
to play the position. But as far as the numbers
that go along with being a great quarterback, you know,
he doesn't measure up to them. And maybe that's where
he is not in the top five with people. Maybe
(02:45):
in some people's you know rankings, since everybody's got a ranking,
he's not in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But he does know how to win.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Imagine if he would win another Super Bowl not out
of the realm of possibilities and being the MVP. Now
you've been to three Super Bowls, you won two and
your two time MVP, Well, now you're a Hall of Famer.
Right If Russell Wilson gets the second Hall of Famer,
(03:15):
it feels like like there's certain players. Is Lamar Jackson
a Hall of Famer already? And I would say, yes,
it's Josh Allen a Hall of Famer already? I would
say probably yes. Now, there was a caller who called
in yesterday, I believe yesterday or the day before, and
(03:38):
he said, what if we looked at careers in reverse order.
So we looked at Russell Wilson and we said, man,
he's kind of struggled a little bit. But then you
get to the beginning of his career, which if we
flipped it would be at the end of his career,
and you go, man, he had a great career.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You know, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
If you flip it and you have him winning a
Super Bowl and then he goes to the Lions and
doesn't do anything, is he a Hall of Famer? And
the answer would be probably not, because we'd look at
it and it wouldn't be recency biased. We would say, well,
he didn't do anything after he won a Super Bowl.
Aaron Rodgers, it's been fourteen years since he won a
(04:19):
Super Bowl. Russell Wilson had success early, and it feels
like when you kind of limped towards the finish line.
You know, John Elway was a Hall of Famer, but
those last two Super Bowls that he won, all of
a sudden, John moved up the list of greatest quarterbacks
of all time. But if we flip careers and say
(04:41):
what did you do early and what did you do
later in your career, you know we might be looking
at some careers differently.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, Pauli Russell Wilson had eight playoff wins in his twenties.
He's had one in his thirties. Well, so at age thirty,
let's say he got hurt or whatever would have happened
to him. He probably cruse to the Hall of Fame
if he somehow stopped playing at thirty due to injury.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And we were looking at rushing touchdowns, we're looking at
rushing yards for quarterbacks. And I'll go back to what
Steve Young has said numerous times on the show. Hall
of Famer said, the yards are out there, go get them.
He said, that's today's quarterback. They're giving you yards. Go
get them. Be smart when you get them. But they're there.
(05:25):
They have design plays. You know, Josh Allen is getting
those yards, Lamar Jackson getting those yards. That's what today's
quarterback has to do. Jalen Hurts getting yards out there.
And now all of a sudden, you're going to look
at yardage totals for quarterbacks and you're going to say,
somebody's going to rush for nine thousand yards like Lamar
(05:47):
Jackson's at sixty two hundred yards right now, not out
of the realm of possibilities that he adds another three
thousand yards to his rushing career. He's twenty eight years
of age. Two time MVP can end up with nine
thousand rushing yards, maybe ten thousand rushing yards Josh Allen.
Then you start to look at touchdowns. Does Cam Newton
(06:11):
have the most rushing touchdowns fully for.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
A quarterback all time? Cam Newton's seventy five, but Josh
Allen is just behind him at sixty five.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh yeah, Cruise passed him. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
The one yard goal line touchdown is becoming the norm.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
How many touchdowns does Jalen Hurts have?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He already has fifty five. I think he's twenty six
years old, twenty seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Did you see when they ran the push tush tush
push Tanner McKee, Now he's a big guy and he
doesn't squat, you know, six hundred pounds like Jalen Hurts.
When he tried to run that tush push, it looked different.
That's why you know they'll be successful with a quarterback sneak.
(06:56):
If they take that out, Jalen Hurts will still make
it successful because there's no quarterback in the NFL who
can leg press six hundred pounds just being able to
generate that power. You're not going to stop him. But
you know, we've seen this with Josh Allen. He's too tall.
We saw that in the postseason where you stop him
(07:19):
and Jalen Hurts, you're not going to stop that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You can take that play out. You're not going to
stop him.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yes, Marvin, this might be an unfair comparison, but do
you think Jalen Hurts might have the same career as
a Troy Akoman where he's never regarded as the best
quarterback in the game, but he just collected rings on
a really, really, really good team and where people don't
even people never even considered Troy Akman not a Hall
(07:45):
of Famer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Troy was a really good passer, but that offense was
so balanced that he didn't need They never asked him to.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did he ever throw for thirty touchdowns? I don't know
if I don't think he did, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Pauli, Troykman never threw for twenty five touchdowns in this season.
He averaged in his peak years twenty three fifteen thirteen,
sixteen low interceptions. They ran the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
How would we view Let's say Jalen Hurts did this
for the Cowboys, how would we view Jalen Hurts. Would
Jalen Hurts be the best quarterback in football?
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Once again, I'm looking at the media coverage and how
they would change maybe their opinion because we look at
the Eagles and you start talking about Saquon Barkley, the
offensive line, the defensive line, got great receivers, and Jalen Hurts.
You don't lead with Jalen Hurts, but he's done everything
that we should be leading with that. Saquon Barklay had
(08:45):
one of the great seasons in running back history to
do what he did and then cap it off and
win the Super Bowl, and that overshadowed Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Mark, maybe if he had a season like Patrick Mahomes
with the fifty touchdowns, if he had a really big
season with gaudy numbers.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I don't think he's ever gonna have that.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Oh I know, I know. But as far as him
being a cowboy and if he was doing this for
the Cowboys, to me, it might be relatively the same,
But more media coverage.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think they would. I think the media would look
at him differently. If he did this for the Cowboys
and he's winning championships, I mean, oh my goodness. It's
just with Philadelphia. It just feels like we go, oh
and look, I say this, it's the best run organization.
Them and the Chiefs. They've draft well, they re signed
(09:34):
players free agency. They built both lines offense, defensive line. Everything.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
See, I think this is kind of Jalen Hurt's story.
I mean, it's what's happening at the Eagles and the
way he's covered there is no different than what happened
at Alabama. He couldn't even prove he was the best
quarterback at Alabama, and now he can't prove that he's
a good quarterback at the Eagles. I think it's something
that people just have planted in their head that now
that's just sort of who he is. He's not really
(10:02):
the guy, but he kind of is. I don't know,
is he yes, he's great now, I don't know he's
it's the team, is it?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
In Well, sometimes when you look at always the second
round draft pick or Lamar Jackson at the end of
the first round, that all these teams passed on these guys,
and then it's hard to Christen them, you know, better
than Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, who were drafted higher.
But he's had far more success.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, Paul, Like you said, we judge quarterbacks on yardages
and touchdowns to interceptions, but there's not a stat least
amount of mistakes. It seems like Jalen Hurts always makes
the right decision, does not take unnecessary hits, but runs
when he needs to. Last year, fifteen starts, eighteen touchdowns.
That's not special, but only five picks.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Coaches will love that.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Five picks in entire NFL seasons.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
He runs the ball efficiently.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but didn't Justin Herbert have twenty three touchdowns in
three interceptions his best year quarter Yeah, let me get
a couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
J in the Bay, Hi, j.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
ADP.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
So, my buddy Travis grew up in San Diego and
went to school at Arizona, and so his three favorite
sports teams are the Chargers, the Padres, and Arizona men's basketball.
I was wondering between you and the dan Nettes and
potentially a poll question which one of those teams would
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be the most frustrating team to be a fan of
and most importantly suck at Travis.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Is it okay?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So Padres, Chargers and Arizona basketball. Arizona is usually, you know,
one of one of the top four seeds. We've had
that where they are number one seed. Like Padres they
are always they're they're they become more interesting, but they're
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not the favorites. Arizona has been on the short list
of favorites to win a national championship. Chargers, They're frustrating
for me because I would always I think I fell
in love with the uniforms I do. It's it's when
you fall in love with the beautiful girl and you
don't notice the other flaws. Yeah, she maybe she uh well,
(12:26):
we don't need to get into details there, but she's
beautiful and then she's got a weird of you know,
laugh or something, and like the Chargers are that beautiful girl.
It's just I sound like Colin Cowherd coming up with
an analogy. Here you go, Colin, that's for you. Shout
out yes, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
It seems like this is obvious. But the past thirty
ish years for the Chargers tons of talent. There's regular
talent on that roster. They never feel like a bad team.
I bet they've had like four losing seasons in the
past thirty. You know, you get Tomless and you get
Breeze at the same time you get Rivers.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You can go on and on.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Now you have Herbert. You've always had high end talent
at the skill positions. You just can't close.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, would you say that it's in that order?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was Arizona basketball, the Chargers, and then the Padres.
Chargers have been to a super Bowl, Arizona's won a
national title. Pile up, piles, I'm thinking, Miles Simon.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
That's the last time we won a national title.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I know. And then the Padres have been to
what a couple of World Series?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Ton, how many.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
Bracket sheets I know, I'm one that's had that happen
over the years, have been destroyed because you bought into Arizona,
thought they were going to the Final four, Elite eight,
and then they didn't even get to the sweep. It happens, Yes,
constantly crossing off Arizona in the middle.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
They will not do that to me ever again. If
they win, great, I'll celebrate you. And if the Padres
win or Chargers win, I'll celebrate you. But I haven't
bought into the Padres. I like what they did. They're
all in to try to win. I love that. Love
a good rivalry, or try to stand up to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But the other teams, I've done that, I've gone down
that road. I've held hands and then all of a
sudden they break my heart. They just want to be friends.
Z Yeah, friend zone. I had a crushing friend zone
one growing up. I was absolutely in love and freshman
(14:33):
freshman year in college and I never would have dated me,
I'm going to say that. And all of a sudden,
this cheerleader had an interest in me, and I'm like,
all right, maybe she sees the jumper because there's nothing
else to see, and maybe it must be the stilky
smooth jumper. Yeah, hey, let's go out on a date.
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What do you want to do?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Can I just watch you?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Shoot?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Actually it's hey, what are you doing? You want to
come watch me? Shoot?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You asked around and she said, oh, you're selling this story.
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I was. I didn't realize.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
I thought you were just kind of waxing poetic about
the whole background.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It still hurts.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
I'm sure it does real to you.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, it is real to me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And then I realized that she she wanted to just
be friends.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That was it. And she goes, I think you're getting
the wrong impression. I go, what that you're really really
in love with me?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Uh? She goes, I just you know, I find you
funny And I go, funny, come a clown. Yeah, I
thought she was laughing at me. Yeah, that one was tough.
And then she ended up dating my teammate. No need
(15:57):
to mention any.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Name that she's more into a cisten and scoring wherever gal. Yeah,
she wasn't into scoring like guys.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Banging in the painting? Whoa what is his family? Family?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Double on Andre? I like, does anybody have a single
on Tondre? It's always a double on Andre. I don't know.
Let that marinate a little bit. Thank you, all right, Tod,
Welcome Drew Brees set to join us. Let's take a
break here, Okay, let's all take a break.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, Paul, single and andre is In the dictionary, a
phrase as a single often body meeting.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Okay, so body.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Double on Andre A phrase has two meetings, one of
them innocent one of them.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Body, Body, Okay, that's the andre you want.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Let's take a break here, Okay, back after this Dan
Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
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Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
More phone calls coming up a seven to seven to
three DP show, Seaton, what's the poll question for the
second hour of this program?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, right now?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Hour one is just it's pretty dominated by the offensive.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Tackle, okay, which I get. Okay, we have one here
from Todd which I don't know if you're ready for.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
We might want to save.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That, Okay, we'll save it to after Drew Brees. Yeah yeah,
I think so. Todd has a uh not safe for
work Limerick as well.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm gonna have to wait and digest that one. That
seems reasonable, Thank you, Todd. It is a Friday, you
get a little Friday fritzy. I just want to make
sure we're not getting too squarely there. Okay, yeah, yeah,
got standard. I'm a journalist.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You are journalists.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Anyone that suggests otherwise.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Today to today, I'm a journalist, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, you're the don Data of journalists.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I'm an alligator.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Sorry, he's Drew Brees, future Hall of Famer, super Bowl
MVP winner and joining us on behalf of Jimmy John's
and Drew Brees number nine. Uh well, look at all
the posters back there, they're all pictures of you.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
Well since since you, since I'm not behind you. You know,
amongst some of the all time broadcasting grades. I see
Bob Costas, I see al Michael. You know, I figured
I had to kind of create my own setup back here.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Let's go back to your broadcasting career looking back on it. No,
but I I know you want to do this and
you're a competitor and you want to be great. What
is it that maybe you missed understanding or doing the
first go round to be your broadcasting career.
Speaker 12 (19:19):
Well, here's where I kind of chuckled, man, because I
get the perception. I get the feeling that the perception
is it somehow, you know, I failed at being a broadcaster.
I got two opportunities to broadcast NFL games, and they
were like eight weeks apart. I did one game in
New Orleans for Thanksgiving, and I did one playoff game.
(19:41):
Otherwise I did I broadcasted Notre Dame football. But really,
when I took that job with NBC, the idea was
to work with some of the best people in the business,
the Mike Trico, Tony Dungee, Rob Hyland, like Fred Gadelli,
all the guys that are legendary guys in that organization.
And man, I'm so thankful that I had that opportunity.
But at the same time, what I really did, for
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the most part, was sit behind a desk and do
Sunday Night Football, the Sunday Night Football Football nine in America,
and then you know, a bunch of stuff in stadium
at the desk and then the Super Bowl broadcast, but
again at the desk.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
So at the end of the day, like I chuckle, because.
Speaker 12 (20:18):
Even as I look at the landscape right now, man,
I have so much respect for a lot of guys
in the booth right now. But I'd step into booth
right now and be a top three guy, like without question,
and then you give me a few years and I
could be the best.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
So look, I love the game. I love talking about
the game.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
I feel like I have an insight to the game
that is pretty unique. You know, given my playing experience,
I see the game a totally different way. I process
it a different way. And so even as I watch
games now and I just kind of listened to, you know,
the commentary and this and that and what I'm seeing,
I just feel like there's.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
So much more to add.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
And so look, at the end of the day, I'm
gonna wait for the right opportunity and you know, hopefully
it comes along. And if it doesn't, that's okay too,
cause I'm coaching ball and I'm involved in the game
in so many other ways. But I do feel like
I have a ton of value to add in the booth,
and so I'm appreciative of Netflix giving me the opportunity
to broadcast on Christmas Day. And I'm not sure exactly
which game, as can be, there's too on the slate,
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but that'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, but it'd be like asking you to start a
game maybe in the preseason, then start a game, you know,
late in a season, and say you weren't consistent. It's
you need you need repetition in this. You got to
be there at weekend and week out.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and so it's it's I think
the unfortunate part about just that year was that the
thing I wanted to do most was broadcast NFL games.
The thing I had the opportunity to do the least
was broadcast NFL games. Now I had a chance to
do everything right. I was in studio, I was at
the stadium, did the Super Bowl pregame. I broadcast a
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little college, I broadcasted a little NFL. So I got
exposure to everything, and man, I retained it all, like
every bit of coaching from all those guys, and I'm
very appreciative of that. But you know, when when I
when I I departed because I wanted to.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
I wanted to.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Spend more time with my kids on the weekends coaching ball,
and unfortunately that was the schedule didn't work out, having
a fly to Connecticut, you know, every week, and also
doing the Notre Dame games. So it was my decision
to step away from NBC. It was not theirs. They
wanted me back, and again I felt like I had
(22:25):
a great relationship with him during that time. Unfortunately, I
think it got reported a little bit differently, and now
somehow that's become the narrative. It could not be further
from the truth. You can go talk to Pete Bvakua,
who is the head of NBC Sports. You can go
talk to Sam Flood, you can go talk to any
of those guys, Mike Trico, Rob Hyland. Then I had
a great relationship with those guys, and they wanted me back.
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Unfortunately the schedule just didn't work given the fact that
I wasn't really able to do what I wanted to do,
which is broadcast NFL games.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Is there a statue of you in New Orleans?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
No, there's not.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Would you like to have a statue of you a New.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Or I don't need a statue, you know what, there's
a statue of Steve Leeson and that's that's one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well, I and I'm being serious.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I know you're being modest here, but when you think
about an athlete and what he meant to a city,
I don't know if there's another athlete who meant more
to a city than you did, or do to New Orleans.
Speaker 12 (23:25):
Look, I think all of us if you go back
to you know that time two thousand and six, Sean
Payton comes in there as the head coach. I mean
literally his first free agent signing was Scott Fujita, right,
who was a mainstay on our defense, who was one
of my good good friends, like and then just all
the little pieces that came together, you know, six oh seven,
O eight, which culminated our Super Bowl victory and O
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nine and then really just an incredible run throughout our
fifteen years there.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
There were so many people that were part of that.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
So it's not I mean, even as you would sit
here and say, hey, maybe Sean Payton and I get
a lot of the credit, at the end of the day,
I think we just take pride in the fact that
we had a chance to be a part of something
really really special, really unique, probably unprecedented from the perspective
of what happened to city where the team was, as
far as just the organization and just the perception that
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people had of the Saints and then all of a
sudden being able to come together and create what was
one of the greatest runs I think in certainly NFL history,
professional sports history, and I think the reputation now of
what a team means to a city and really the
standard of what a team can mean to a city.
(24:38):
I feel like the New Orleans Saints represent that as
well as any wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And I would have the statue of you to be
the actual size to scale. I would have it being
six feet so people can say, wow, he did it
at that height. I'm his height or I'm taller than him.
I don't want it to be seven feet tall. I
wanted to be six feet. Maybe you think you're six
to one, but maybe it's six feet. Can you be
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too short to play quarterback in the No.
Speaker 12 (25:07):
Here's if you go back to you need the perspective
of having the linemen in front, you know. So it's
like it's like one of those It's like one of
those statues where you got like, you know, it's like
the cavalry, you know, and you got the big horses
in front, you know, like that's what you need for
the perspective.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
So you're gonna be hidden behind your offences line.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
Like the six foot sixth light in front of perspective
of see through these guys. No, look, I don't think
you can be too short. Look, there's that there's that
prototype size that maybe we all have in our mind
for each position.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
In fact, I'm sure there's.
Speaker 12 (25:45):
A lot of scouts that made a great living, you know,
through the years, with just having that that mold or
that model for each position. I know that Sean Payton
had a little bit of that because he got it
from parcels like I would.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I would.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
I was in these discussions all the time as to
what positions were supposed to look like. Apparently the only
one that could have quite a bit of variation was
the running back position. He's like, they parcels just say
they come in all shapes and sizes. They just need
to have a big lower half, right, otherwise they're going
to constantly be in the shop, so to speak, They're
going to be injured. So I mean, like the darren
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Sprolls is right, five foot seven, you know, one hundred
and eighty pounds, but it was one of the most
dynamic players in the history.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
In the NFL, I think from a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
Keep in mind too, not only was I shore, but
I came in the league behind a guy named Doug Flutie, who,
in my opinion, is one of the greatest quarterbacks in
all of professional football. And obviously he played every level
of it, from the USFL to the CFL to the NFL.
But he was doing things that were ahead of his time,
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and I don't think he gets the appreciation for it.
He was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Everything you see
Mahomes do, I saw Fluty do every day in practice,
from the no look throws to the back shoulder throw
to just like manipulating defenders with his eyes, buying time like.
He just had such an incredible feel for the game,
and a lot of the things he did he did
out of survival, right like you think about it, I
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think some of the greatest innovations in history is because hey,
there was a problem that needed to be solved, or
he had a limitation that you had to overcome in
some way with some other sort of talent and so
like truly he did things out of survival, like he
would have been able to play the position if he
wasn't able to do these things. But I had a
front row seat to this for four years with the
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Santigo Charters, and some ask his backup, and then in
other cases he is my backup. But nonetheless he was
an incredible mentor for me and I learned so much
from and so therefore I would say he played the
game at five nine and a half or whatever Doug was.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
I don't think that's I don't think that's a limitation.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm talking to Drew Brees, the future Hall of famerous
Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
What are you doing with Jimmy Johns so well?
Speaker 12 (27:57):
First off, so I've been a fan of Jimmy Johns
since night ninety seven my freshman year at Purdue University.
I showed up to Wiley Hall my freshman year and
you're staying up late studying right Dan, and three o'clock
in the morning, you're starving, and the only place open
is Jimmy Johns. So you dial up Jimmy Johns and
literally fifteen minutes later, you got some dude rolling up
on a bike to hand you with Jimmy john sandwich.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
It's like the greatest pie of food in the world.
Speaker 12 (28:20):
So literally that was like what I lived on three
days a week in college. So I've had a relationship
with Jimmy Johns for a long time. I've been at
Jimmy John's franchise hear here in New Orleans. We built
out this market about fifteen years ago, so I've always
loved the brand and it's been a great partnership. But
they're supporting our foundation. So actually for the entire month
of August, so all the way to August thirty first,
you can walk into with Jimmy Johns and just order
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my favorite sandwich and they named that for me this month.
So you just say, I want to Breeze number nine,
And basically that's gonna be ham Capacola salami.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
It's the Italian night club. All those lettuce, tomato onions.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
You get to oil and vinegar, salt, pepper, the basil
o'regano mix.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
But it's no cheese ad hot peppers.
Speaker 12 (28:59):
That's the little, you know, the little extra that we're
throw in this to make it the Breeze number nine
and not just the number nine so, and all the
proceeds are going to the Breech String Foundation of British
and girls clubs around the country, So appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
With Jimmy Johnson, how do you know what to look
for or should we know what to look for with
rookie quarterbacks in preseason?
Speaker 12 (29:20):
Well, first thing I say is experience. I just take
obviously a ton of qbs have been you're after here
of the last you know, three years, you know, in
the first round so or four years so, First and foremost,
how many games? How many high level starts do they
have in college? And I think that makes a huge difference.
I think if you just start looking at, hey, the
guys that had forty fifty even six bone necks sixty
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one starts in college, those guys come into the league
a lot more well prepared than the guys who, man,
there's a ton of talent, a ton of upside, a
ton of potential started fifteen games, started, seventeen games. There's
just you just need I think, I think forty to
fifty high level starts before you really kind of find
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that that comfort level. And so if you do take
a guy like that, then it's going to take two
or three years. Obviously the team that you're part of,
the system that you're in that has that plays a
big role in it. But I think first and foremost
you have to look at experience and then how are
you building the system around him? What type of what
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type of runway does he have in order to grow
and develop? You know, I think you looked at the
guy's probably who had the most success last year. Jade
Daniels bonis right. So those two examples. Jane Daniels Bunce
just starts at Arizona State, comes to LSU, bunch of
high level starts there, he comes to the league.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I think very well prepared.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Bo Neck sixty one starts right between Auburn and Oregon,
comes in fairly well prepared.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
So I think that's a big that's a big factor.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm wondering how we're going to look at quarterbacks in
the future because Lamar Jackson could end up with ten
thousand rushing yards, which is unheard of. I mean for
a running back, ten thousand yards is a great career.
Josh Allen, he could end up with eight thousand yards rushing.
You look at the number of touchdown Josh Allen's going
to end up with more rushing touchdowns than any other
quarterback in history.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He'll move past Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So I don't know how we everybody's thrown for a
lot of yards, but now you have this other category
in here, how will we differentiate or assess quarterbacks? You know,
bigger picture Hall of Fame wise, when you're adding something
that we really haven't seen the Michael Vick gave us this,
Steve Young, a little bit Cam Newton gave us. Now
(31:35):
it feels like, as Steve Young told me many times,
there's yards to get, Go get them.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
If you're a quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Look, it's a great point.
Speaker 12 (31:45):
It's a great point because I think when you start
talking about qvs in history and the comparisons, you immediately
go to the passing statistics, and obviously in today's game,
it's so much more than that. At the end of
the day, what's your job. Your job is to go
put your team in the end zone, and so however
you can do that, it doesn't matter whether it's through
the air or on the ground. I think that Steve
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Young quote is a great one. There's yards to get,
you know, go get them. There's first downs to get,
go get them. So however, you can do that. That's
why the whole QB rating thing is always so wonky, right,
because it's like, well, how are we really evaluating the
efficiency or the productivity of a quarterback when you have
all these different layers to it. I mean, you should
have somebody sitting there going, man, he threw the ball away.
(32:26):
That was actually an incredible decision. That shouldn't work against
him on the QB rating. Right, So you have all
these factors and at the end of the day, did
you possess the ball, did you get first towns and
push team in the end zone? Did you score points?
Was that complimentary to your defense and that gets you
to win? I mean that's that's that's truly how you
should be evaluated.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, also, when you don't take a sack. I mean
that's like there's little things. I agreed QBR to me,
I don't like it. I want to know if you
won the game, it's the most important to that. Yeah,
but they don't have a category.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I think you actually brought up a
good point.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
I think one of the greatest traits of a quarterback
that is never discussed, especially in the evaluation of it,
is their ability to avoid SAPs and avoid negative plays
that when you just look start looking at the probabilities
and the percentages of success on you know, third and
(33:26):
six versus third and ten, and just like your ability
to avoid negative plays, and a lot of times too
that could just be, Hey, I have a decision when
I walk up the line of scrimmage to run the
ball right, run the ball left, run it inside, to
run it outside. And the decision that you make, in
large part could be the difference between a two or
three yard gain or a one yard loss. And so
there's so many of these decisions that are made within
the framework of a game where if I'm evaluating qbs
(33:49):
and I'm sitting there watching the tape, I want to
know what type of decision maker they are, because if
they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow.
There's a lot of things that we can fix fundamentally
and whatever, Hey, you missed a throw, but you're true
to the right place and you're on time. That's fine,
we can fix that, right. But if you have a
great decision mate, and process, and you were consistently making
(34:10):
good decisions and you're avoiding sacks and you're putting yourself
in favorable positions, meaning high probability for success positions, then
you're gonna win a ton of games. And I think
when you really start to break it down, that's what
you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Great to catch up with you again.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Hope the family's well, and good luck with Jimmy Johns
and Boys and Girls Clubs of America.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Thank you, DP.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a future Hall of Famer there, Drew Brees his
longest run twenty three yards. He ran for seven hundred
yards in his career. That's that's Lamar j That's a
down year for Lamar running. Buddy, wasn't paid, right, But
you weren't paid to run. You weren't paid to run.
(34:52):
You could have been elusive, right.
Speaker 12 (34:54):
He move the chase, get your team, Okay, I'd much
rather throw it to the guys.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Could you outrun Peyton Manning?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Absolutely smoke him, crush him.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Could you outrun Tom.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
He's all torso? Oh Brady, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
Brady would be at the twenty five yard line when
I crossed the forty?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Wow, how would you do against Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
No, he would be at the forty You're still competitive?
Thank you, Budding. We'll take a break more phone calls
after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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(35:45):
and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show. Big matchup coming
up this weekend. You've got Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, a
rare showdown of pitchers who have at least three thousand strikeouts.
When's the last time you had two pictures who were
in the three thousand strikeout club? Because justin Verlanders in
the three thousand strikeout club. I don't know if he's
(36:07):
faced off against either one of these guys. But do
we have a matchup of three thousand strikeout I'm sure
we do, But when's the last time that we had them?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Slide into the weekend starts tonight Shador Sanders taking on
the Carolina Panthers Browns and the Panthers Lions Falcons. Commander's
Patriots so NFL Preseason. Devin mccordy, former Patriot, will join
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The Links in the Liberty that's WNBA action, the Mets
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Speaker 5 (37:23):
The only fine September twenty twenty three Sus versus Verlander,
Oh okay. Also two in our game winners sures are
three Cy Young's Clayton Kershaw three.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Say Young, Zach and Minnesota Hi Zach. Thanks for holding
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (37:37):
Lauren Dan and Dan App six foot three, two fifty five.
How are you guys doing this morning?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Spectacular?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Awesome? Hey, I told Tyler my call in about a question,
but I'm gonna throw a couple of things at you
to start happy. Gilmour too loved it, loved the caterpillar
that you had on your left. That mustache was brilliant.
Thank you, and you should rock that thing more often.
(38:09):
So this could be a poll question for you guys,
which NFL coach do you trust more to win the
Super Bowl this year? We're gonna go with Kyle Shanahan,
Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, and then I'm gonna throw in
a caveat of Sean Payton. He's already won one, but
(38:31):
he's now obviously in Denver. So I wanted to throw
that at you guys.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, and it's not necessarily the coach, Thank you, Zach.
I mean you got to have the roster because we
saw what happened to Detroit when they lost Aiden Hutchinson.
It doesn't matter how good Dan Campbell is as a coach,
he can't replace Aiden Hutchinson. That's I would go with.
Give me the coach who has the best roster, the
healthiest roster. Yeah, Jim Harball just lost his starting left tackle.
(39:00):
Sean Payton has high hopes for the Broncos. And bo Nicks,
and it feels like there's members of the media who
are looking at the Broncos and saying it's more than
just a playoff team. Todd has his Bronco Is that
a sweatshirt? On?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Today?
Speaker 10 (39:16):
I ordered this when Russell Wilson first came to Denver.
I got all excited. I thought this was going to
be the third quarterback to lead Denver to a Super
Bowl title with Manning in Lway. So basically it shows
Russell Wilson like arm in arm with Manning and Lway,
like they're the big trio of Super Bowl Bronco champions,
which obviously did.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Not play on that one. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Anne in Wisconsin. Hi Anne, Good morning. What's on your
mind today?
Speaker 13 (39:40):
Happy meat Friday?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (39:42):
I know how much you've love, loved, so I wanted
to share this story. My husband, head basketball coach Matt
Hockett at UWSP, got me tickets for tonight's show in
Wisconsin in Milwaukee for Darius Rutger, and on the ticket
it says that he is performing with a special guest.
(40:06):
I just need to confirm that it's not going to
be Todd Forritt.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
And it's it's not going to be Todd, right, Todd,
it is not.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
So she's trying to say that she's going to cancel
going to the event if I'm the special.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
She just wanted to make sure that she was kind
of geared up correctly.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I don't know if it was a shot.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
So she's like hoping, are.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
You making fun of Todd? Ann?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (40:27):
Never, never, I wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
To do that. And can you have Tyler put you
on hold? And I want to get your number. Would
you guys like to meet Darius before the show tonight?
Speaker 13 (40:42):
Oh my gosh, that would be a dream come true.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Thank you so much, Dan.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, all right, you stay on hold and then I'll
get your number and then let me see if I
can get you backstage to meet Darius.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yes, Tom, you are a stud.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
You just make dreams come true, like you know, you
just pull these things out of a hat.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
That's very nice, thank you. And I'm a journalist.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
You're a journalist and a very thoughtful person and.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
A gentleman and a gentleman and I love love. How
about we take a break. We got sixty more minutes,
let's go. It's the super Bowl, all right? To meet Friday,
don't be mailing it in. Come on, let's go. Come on,
here we go, on, let's go. All right,
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