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Hall of Famer Steve Young will join us. Coming up
a little bit next hour. Darius Rucker was on College
game Day. He will join us as South Carolina loses
in dramatic fashion. The Dolphins make him cry, so does
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South Carolina. Vikings beat the Niners, Bucks beat the Lions,
Saints rough up the Cowboys. They're all two and zero.
Are you buying into all of them? Well, the Buccaneers
are a playoff team. The Vikings under the radar after
losing JJ McCarthy, but even with him, I don't know
if the expectation level was that high because you have
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the Lions and the Packers, both playoff teams, and we
think the Bears are going to be better than they
were last year. The Buccaneers beating the Lions, I said
that Friday would not be surprised if they did that.
The Saints Okay. They beat Carolina in Week one and
you go, okay, you put up forty seven points on
the Panthers, and we'll give you a half a win.
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You go to Dallas and you rough them up, put
up forty four points. Now you got people's attention. So
they're two to zero the Steelers. It's not pretty, but
you just have to win these games. It's just like
I'm watching the Jets against Tennessee. Tennessee has always had
a way of making you play ugly. It feels like
there's every game is like, you know, nineteen to sixteen,
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you know, twenty one to eighteen always, and the Jets
got to win. They didn't look good. It's just Will
Levis looked bad. And once again I don't have we
had him on the show maybe once during the draft.
He looks like a quarterback who is playing a quarterback
in a movie. Like he has everything. But he makes mistakes, man,
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big mistakes, and you know there's certain mistakes you make
and you go, well, he's a rookie. Well he's not
a rookie anymore. You can't be making those mistakes. But
the Jets got the win. You'll take the win, and
we've yet to see Aaron Rodgers really turn it loose.
He hasn't thrown for over one hundred and eighty yards yet,
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you know, waiting for Breese Hall and like you're waiting
for this, but you know, after four weeks, if you
haven't seen it, chances are you're not going to see
it with a lot of these teams, if you you know,
abide by what Belichick and Brady used to say, the
first four games were our preseason figuring everything out.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That's what you know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Offensive defensive coordinators, head coaches, quarterbacks, everybody's trying to figure
all of this out. Because in the preseason or you
have those controlled scrimmages, that's not a great litmus test
of what the regular season is all about. You're watching
these teams, like the Texans look like they're loaded, but
they struggle to put away the Bears at home. There's
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certain things where you go, Okay, the Ravens. Ravens improved. Now,
they did lose defensive players, but they they you know,
they got a really good running game. And you're thinking,
all right, the Raiders are coming to town. Here's Antonio Pierce,
the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Where we were ten point under dogs disrespected National Football League.
I've been in the game a long time. Not to
many times teams get picked by to lose by ten points.
Our guys took it personal and I was good and
we got a lot of clean.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Up to do tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay, at what point do you take it personally? If
you were eight and a half point underdogs, do you
take it personally? The fact that you're an under I mean,
I don't know what that means. That it's ten it's
double digits. In the National Football League. It's always far
more serious when players and coaches and analysts say the
National Football League, we don't get to do that, But
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if you played or coached, you get to call it
the National Football League US, it's just the NFL. But
Antonio Piers, Hey, this is the National Football League and
we're double digit underdogs. If you're looking at those survivor pools,
so the first week, the number of people who took
the Bengals to beat the Patriots, and then if you
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survive that, you probably went I'm taking the Ravens hosting
the Raiders. They wiped out a lot of people. Two games,
two weeks, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. How would you not pick it between
those two games.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
You would think by by the time Week two was over,
you'd be totally out.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
With those two. Oh, yes, absolutely, thank you, Tod.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yes, well, I always hesitate with the Raiders to buy in.
They've had a bunch of seeds. Hey, they're five and
one and then they're five and nine. You know, I
loved you know, I love me some Minshew, but they're
a tough team to buy into.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, they got Max Crosby, who I love. Gardner Minshew
is a high end backup. Starting quarterback Rock Bowers looks
like he's the real deal. I think he had nine targets,
nine catches. They you know, so they have enough there
to make it interesting. I don't know if they have.
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You know, they'll get a new quarterback next year, probably
go all in, you know, either trading for somebody or
drafting somebody. I still shocked that they didn't go all
in on Michael Pennox junior the third or moving up
to maybe they didn't think Atlanta was going to draft him.
But you know, they got Rock Bowers, who's really really talented. Yes, Hunt,
What can we make.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Of Jim Harbo's Chargers through two weeks they beat up
on the Panthers. They beat the Raiders week one, which
didn't seem like that big a deal. But now that
the Raiders beat the Ravens in Baltimore, now that's a
juicy hera win for them.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I believe in Harball. I believe in him. I don't
care who you're beating or how you're beating them. I
just believe in him. I think that his track record,
he wins San Diego, Stanford, San Francisco, Michigan, and I
believe that with the LA Chargers he'll win as well.
It might be counterintuitive to what NFL teams normally do
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and throwing the ball, but when they went all in,
I thought they were going to take rock Bouers. But
when they went all in and they took what Joe
alts out of Notre Dame like he was saying, this
is who we are. We're going to try to push
you around a little bit. And you know JK. Dobbins
has been great second in the league now in rushing
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as a team. So I'm buying into them, buying into them.
Poll question from our one seaton and then what are
we going to go with an hour two.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
We've got thrice poll questions all there, right, Okay, Florida
team that has the biggest issues right now, the Florida
State Seminoles are running away with that one sixty four
percent of the vote. The Dolphin are in last and
not as many issues apparently as the Gators who are
in second.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Are the staple? Are the Steelers good this year? Right now?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Seventy four percent of the audience say no, awesome. And
the most surprising two and o team right now is
the sint at fifty seven percent of the vote, followed
by the Steelers stealers.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
The fact that the Saints went to Dallas in one
that that guy win.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, but you do it in a way where
their first five possessions I think they scored touchdowns. I
mean just dominating and doing that in Dallas. Last time
we saw that was Oh that's right, Green Bay when
they went there for the postseason last year. All right,
phone calls coming up besting worst of the weekend. I
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was hoping Kentucky could pull off the upset. College football
needs something like you got to have a little disruption there.
What was that thirteen to twelve the final there? Arch
Manning came in Quinn. You were was injured. Arch looked awesome. Alabama, Wisconsin.
I tuned in just for a little bit there, just
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for the atmosphere. Lsu escaped South Carolina and Florida. It
is messy. It is messy. Tonight Falcons at the Eagles.
The Eagles are giving five and a half Josh and Virginia.
Good morning, Josh. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (08:28):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
First time, longtime sneaky athletic five to ten and a
Miller Light one ninety. Thank you, marv. Dan, I've got
two quick best and worst of the weekend for you.
I have absolute best of the weekend, Dan. I got
to see Darius and the boys jam out down in
here in Virginia Beach on Saturday night after his college
game day appearance in the morning. Concert was awesome, including
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their Led Zeppelin cover song, but the worst of the
weekend there as well. Dan, sadly I did not get
to see the Toddler open for Darius and who do
you so we all know he would must have been fighting,
good fight to get healthy.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No, no, Josh, trust me, you were a winner by
not seeing todd sing We're not doing that again. That
was a one and Donner. Actually it was two songs
and done. But thank you Josh get.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Invited back to the road at some point. I don't
haven't gotten that call yet.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Don't sky.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
People paid to go to this concert and then halfway
through it this happened. So people paid to go see
this much better.
Speaker 11 (09:42):
It sounds in the shower from me on amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Tod see you you can sing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's just sometimes when you sing, or anybody does, when
all of a sudden you're trying to sing at a
different pitch, or you're trying to sing through a microphone
to a stadium, you change your voice a little bit.
I think it's natural to do that. It's you sing
into the microphone. You're not singing to the person in
the last row of the last seat, and you're singing
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after Darius sings, and Darius knows what he's doing and
you don't.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
The audience was very kind, at least the ones I
saw looked like they were trying to be supportive.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, they were applauding because they thought you were dumb. Yes,
and then you started singing again, and you got your
hands in your pocket the entire time, like you just
We did it. We did it and now we're done
with it.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yes, it is except for the audience.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yes, Paul, I don't get anxious or nervous in public situations.
When Fritzi went to song two during that concert, in
my head, I'm begging him to walk off because it
would have been a cool moment. That whole three week
period leading up to that concert, we must have begged
him to not go song too.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I begged him backstage before he went out on moments before.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yes, I think he wanted me to do a bridge
version of the one song.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I thought if you combined both of them and and
like had a medley of Hollandoad.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Songs just on my eyes or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, but something that, you know, maybe we we streamlined
it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Let's just get it over with so much.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
It to do. Had Todd you get a chance like that,
you should have gone for three if you could have
you stay up there as long as you can, Buddy, No,
never happening again, It's never happened.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
If I would have started singing a third song that
the band has, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I would have dragged you. I would have dragged you
off the god. But what is he doing to that
will make my head and no one said that. You
know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm gonna bring back a painful memory for Darius when
he comes on, I want you to start singing, Holland.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Just remind him that he'll never ever do it again,
because he's so generous, and I know that he would
be like, yeah, I guarantee you. If I said, hey,
could Fritzy maybe sing another song? Well more time with you,
he would say yes.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
No way.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
That was insane that he allowed that to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, the Kent City Chiefs have lost Isaiah Pacheco. It
is a fractured fibula yesterday. There's no time frame for this.
I'm just seeing the news. Ian Rappaport, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
The other thing about Isaiah Pacheco, he's on i think
the last year of a four year contract. He's making
almost no money for a football player who's very successful.
He makes like nine hundred thousand and in the fourth
year of a contract, and.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We wondered if he was ever going to get paid
because he's on the Chiefs. He got this great opportunity,
but at that position, is he going to get that
big contract. That's a big loss because it's almost like
he is the spirit of that team. Like offensively, you
know Mahomes and Kelsey, you know they're Hall of famers
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they but Checko it feels like every carry he feels
like it's the most important carry of his life. You know,
there's a Marshawn Lynch type feel to him of I'm
going to run and make you pay. Roger in Arizona, Hi, Roge,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
I've been watching sports since nineteen forty eight. But anyway,
my best of the week is obviously Kyler Murray from Phoenix.
Now I got very very quickly is the Eastern Press.
They talked about the old Kyler all two years ago.
They have probably probably traded him for a yoxtrapp and gloves.
But last year the team voted him captain. This year
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and the preseason, he's been the first one on the field,
the last one on the field. The thing is Kingsberry
was the absolutely worst coach for him because he didn't
hold him accountable. Anyway, my best of my worst of
the weekend has been my worst since nineteen forty eight.
This umpires and they're strong. I can't believe how bad
that is. I was watching the game there the day.
(14:04):
There was two strikes and throws the pitch just obviously
a strike. Next next swing hits a home run, then
you know you shouldn't give that thing that main thing.
So that's just my opinion that the strike zone for
umpires is awful, and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, we can always do electronics strike zones if you
want to, Roger, thank you. I don't know if it
was just the East Coast media who was critical of
Kyler Murray. I would imagine probably some local media had
been critical of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He's got the talent. That was never a douent. He
has the talent.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
What did I say after last week's game, You got
to get the ball to Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's just common sense.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now Kyler said, well, hey, talk to my offensive coordinator, okay,
And then what did we say to Sean McVay, Sean,
they are going to go to Marvin Harrison in the
first quarter, early and often. And what did they do?
They went to him and he had a couple of
touchdowns there. I don't think it takes really the deep
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thinker to go, how do I see on that train
we drafted Marvin Harrison. We should probably getting the ball.
I have some stats here for you. You know what,
let me take a break. I'll have this for you
before we get to Steve Young coming up. But I've
got some stats here for you, and I'm curious what
you think of these numbers for this player. We'll take
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
We'll talk to Steve Young here in a moment. All right,
here's some stats for you. Tell me if you take
this career Going into his eleventh season, two hundred and
forty seven career touchdowns, one hundred and eight picks, four
pro Bowl selections.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
If you said that's Derek Carr, you'd be correct quietly,
some pretty good numbers there and had a great day
yesterday and roughing up the Cowboys on the road. Stat
of the Day has always brought to you by Panini America,
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times Super Bowl Champ, Super Bowl MVP, Hall of Famer
(17:40):
Steve Young back on the program. What was it like
to play behind a bad offensive line?
Speaker 14 (17:48):
Life is too short? Dan? Like in football, like you
need a lot of help to be a great quarterback
or even a good quarterback or competent. You need help,
and you need it from the owner down and especially
in today's game. And if you're behind a bad offensive line,
you can't be yourself. You can't show who you are.
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You can scrape it through. I always said, no matter
how bad it is, if you're if you're gonna be
really good, you're gonna figure out a way to send
up a flare. You know, you'll like, you'll send up
some smoke signals that tells people I can still play.
I promise, I just I can't show you right now,
but I'm I you know, And I'm and I watch
for those smoke signals for people, you know, guys that
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are on terrible teams, like Daniel Joe. I mean, like
you watch guys like no, they can't. They like Russell
Wilson went to Denver. I'm like, wait, where's the smoke signal?
Tell me you know what you're doing? Tell me no,
you're what's going on? I was like, no, I got
nothing for you, bro, And so I just I think
behind a bad line it there's nothing good that can
not much good that can happen. But you can let
me know that you can. You're still You're still competent,
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You're still you still can be good. You just got
to need more help.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, but I don't know what to make of Bryce Young.
That gets not fair to him, But I I don't
know if he can play.
Speaker 14 (19:02):
Yeah, it's the classic conundrum, right because you get into it.
You know your high draft pick, you come out of
you know all the success in college. You feel like
you're you should you should be really good, and you
don't get any help and now you don't know, and
then you then you lose your job and you bounce
around the league and then some guy's number get never
really get straightened up. And that's the that's the somewhat
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the curse of being the number one pick. But if
he was again, do you think he's sent you some
smoke signals, he's put up some flares that he can
get it right. I can take care of you. I'm
I'm going to say, I'm not sure that he has.
And that's what you have to wonder about.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
When did you learn that there was only so much
you could do on a play before you kind of
have to take the loss on that play, whether you know,
because in college you could improvise, extend a play. You
were more athletic, But you get to the pros and
eventually you have to learn how to go Nope, no,
not going to happen on this play.
Speaker 14 (20:01):
Well again, the prototypes have changed, Dan, I was the
oddity back in the day. Now you know I would
be prototype now. And so the challenge that you just
asked is that is the question of every quarterback, justin
Fields last year when I talked to him, all the guys,
Patrick Mahomes, every week's got to figure out when do
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I you know I'm superman? I can't you know I'll
call the play, I'll get the most out of it,
and then I got another play for you, and then
maybe another one at at the tail end when I
can throw it down the field for eighty yards on
the you know, on the run. When do I When
do I quit? What does Josh Allen say? Okay, I
know they asked me to ask too much of me.
I'm superman every week. When when is too much? And
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that is that is the eighty you know, sixty million
dollar question now at quarterback and the guys that have
figured out and I think Patrick has done that. Patrick
went back to school in two thousand and you read it,
you know, said to him, Hey, Patrick, what you really
need to do is focus on the play that's called
in the huddle, get every inch of that, and then
go do something else and then throw it away. And
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so that discipline that Patrick put into his game I
think made him the best in the in the league.
And there's others that had the capability of being the
best in the league that haven't figured out that discipline.
And you know that's people say, why not? How so obvious? Well,
you know that's the that's the challenge of the toughest
job in sports is to try to figure out when
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and how that that that that story ends. It's easier
for guys like Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, you know, Tom Brady,
that they don't have all the options and so they
can be more disciplined much quickly, much more quickly.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But so you rush for four thousand yards. How much
of that was by design when you were playing?
Speaker 14 (21:47):
None?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
None of it?
Speaker 14 (21:50):
But but but yet that was the That's where you
get capitulation from defenses. That's where in today's game especially,
you have to You saw Caleb but the of the
game yesterday, you saw cg at the end of the game.
It's like the NBA. You know, you play around, play
on three and a half quarters, and all of a sudden,
there's the finishers, the guys that can throw it all
over the field, big strong, you know, athletic guys, and
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then they have to get on the horse. They have
to go out and take those free yards. They're out
there and you're gonna If you're not gonna take him,
it's just going to be making it that much more hard.
That's what Patrick Mahomes didn't play well, but he made
it from some key first down runs, some things that
really moved the chains. Made the difference and those that's
out there. And if you can't do it, you really
can't drive in today's game. But if you don't, if
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you're not capable of of getting like the game has
changed so much that they're free yards out there for quarterbacks,
you got to go get him like college used to be.
And but yet you have to be in college. Dan,
there's there's runners who can throw, and there's a lot
of them in the pros. You got to be a thrower.
You got to be a you know, sophisticated pass with
the football. Who can run? And that's the challenge of
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today's game is who could Everyone can run. Most of
the guys that are being drafted today high they're all big,
strong guys that can run. But can you become a
sophisticated passer of the Football.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Hall of Famer Steve Young, Joni is you didn't slide, though.
Speaker 14 (23:15):
I always thought sliding was more dangerous and and and
the only thing with Josh Allen Bevans and Josh Allen,
he's too crazy. He's gotta gotta call him down. He's
gonna get hurt. I agree, there's some things he does
at the end. The last move of when the journey
is over. You know Eric Emma Smith, he's a famously
saying you got to know when the journey's over. And Josh,
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he extends that little bit that puts himself at risk.
I always felt the safest on the field out of
the pocket, on the run, make it my own way.
And then how to get down to the ground. How
to make sure that you get down there safely sliding
you get, you get less yards and you get pounded
in the face like I'm not doing that. Like you
can always find a safe way to the ground if
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you want to. And I the most dangerous play in
the field for quarterback and stand in the pocket trying
to deliver. Now, that is the job. That's what I
tried to prove the people dead for eighteen years that
I'm not a scrambler. I am an efficient, sophisticated pass
of the football. And because I could run around, they
just could they you know, they wouldn't capitulate. I don't
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know who they are, but they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm going to preface this by saying, I know this
might be difficult for you to answer, but you did
go through concussions. Can you put yourself into his situation
at his age, where you've had multiple concussions and now
you have to look at a bigger picture.
Speaker 14 (24:37):
I can't put myself oddly, I can't put myself into
a spot because what I'm witnessing. And again, you know,
the brain is the last frontier of medical science. You
go to the world's greatest neurologist and ask them, how
you know should I play on that play? They can't
look inside and all is that it's kind of all symptomatic.
And how do you feel what we witnessed? What is
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the reaction? How devastate were the hits? I always had
what I would call grade one where I felt a
little diusy. The next day, I woke up and I
wanted to sleep a little bit more than I was fine.
So I never had what what you witnessed on the
field the other day with Tua, where you know you've
got the fencers posed and you're definitely knocked out, and
it happens multiple times, and you know people, you know,
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people would come to me through the years, Hey, Steve,
you you've had concussions. What you know. I can't remember
my wife's name, I can't remember where I parked my car.
I can't sleep now for three weeks or now with
five months. You know, I'm sitting in the basement. I'm like, bro,
I don't know what to tell you. I never that
was never me, and so I don't know how to
help you. I can tell you that if that happened
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to me where you're in these dramatic situations on the field,
where you had these obviously severe concussions, now that I've
lived a long time, I would scream in into the
you know, I would screen back, you know, be superful.
It doesn't mean. Look, the problem is you can go
to all neurologists and they'll say, well I would if
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I were you, or it does seem like the best idea,
and nobody's gonna say go play because that's dangerous. And
two is now in a place where it's double dangerous
because not only is his health, but everyone on the
street's gonna be I mean, you know, old women will
walk up to him and grab his cheek. Please don't
play anymore, Please don't do it, please for you, you know
all we just can't watch it anymore. So there's that
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social pressure as well. So as you try to make
a great decision that is going to be on them,
and especially a young age when you feel like you've
got your whole career in front of you, very very difficult.
But what you're witnessing seems to be pretty severe concussions.
And I'm you know, I'm not an expert, but even
the experts will say me that just seems they're loaded
on on top of each other. That just it feels
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super heavy and something he should be super careful about.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
What would were you more susceptible to concussions after having got.
Speaker 14 (26:58):
Now, there are always believe that there were people, like
you know, injury prone people where their bodies just can't
hold up to the riggor It was nothing against them,
they just their bodies just kind of betrayed them. I
do feel that about heads injuries as well. It seemed
like some guys can just get bounced around and never
have any issues, and some guys just seem to be
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susceptible to them. So I think there is that genetic
part of it that's possible. I don't know. It's probably
in the middle, I guess, but it does. Yeah, but
it's hard to say. The hits are the hits, and
and it's super dangerous, it's and and there is a
long life ahead of people. And and when you're twenty
five or trying to make decisions about your career, and
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it's the thing you're best at, Dan, when you're when
you're world famous for a skill that you have that's
part genetically given and part that you've you know, kind
of earned, and now you have to leave it, and
the next day you're not good at anything else. It's
not nobody wants to be there. Super difficult to make
that kind of a.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well there's all this money though, too, Steve, we're talking yeah,
I mean again.
Speaker 14 (28:04):
Yes, that and I'll never diminish it, especially today. It's amazing,
no question. But again, emotionally, where do you live at
the core of yourself? You want to do things that
you're you're great at, and if you're great at something,
you want to keep doing it because the next day, again,
if I was really honest with myself, I'm not good
at anything else. It's certainly not great at anything else.
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And so your life changes so dramatically. Always said it
was like falling off a cliff. You're just a bag
of broken bones at the bottom when you do quit
the thing that you're great at, because the humility that
comes with it is brutal, and nobody. People will say,
why can't you quit? Why can't you? You know, that's
you know, give it up. It's like you give up
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the thing that you're best at, you know, forever. It's tough.
It's tough, is it real?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The West Coast team going east coast to play that
one o'clock game? We saw the Niners against the Vikings, Like,
do you remember how real that was?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
When you played?
Speaker 14 (29:04):
It was always something It was always hard to play
ten am your time when you went across the country.
I actually waited the Central Games worse because for whatever reason,
Noon felt, you know, I know, still ten am my time.
Like I get it, dad, I get the math. But somehow,
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somehow Noon hit me, wrang hit me in a different way.
So you're playing. You got a noon kickoff in the
super Dome in front of eighty thousand crazy people screaming.
You can't hear anything. It's like it's noon. It's like
it's too early for this. I need a couple more
hours to get ready for this. But there's there's something
to it, and it's always harder to go west to east.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
We know that our audience watching on. Peacock wants to
know if you're in an suv or a minivan. Let's
let's guess. No, hold on, hold on, Todd, suv or minivan.
For Steve, a minivan would be bad for the brand,
but we'll get to that in the moment time.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I think he's running errands in a minivan.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Minivan? All right, seating, I think it's an suv. Think Marvin,
he's in a gmc gmc wow, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, three row suv, Steve Young, No minivan.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, there's no minivan in your life. That's an suv.
Speaker 14 (30:21):
You just do not know me.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Man.
Speaker 14 (30:23):
I roll in the sweetest Toyota swagger wagon you've ever seen. Bro,
Come on, dang, it's a swagger wagon. Man, you go.
I go thumping buy people in the neighborhood. This sweet
eighteen cup holders. I got outlets, I can I can outlet.
I could people get in and out of this car.
I got five ways in and out. This is amazing
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this thing.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Wait, Paulie, would you check and see if it's officially
called the swagger wagon.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I'm on the Toyota website. I don't see that model.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Did you create the swagger wagon?
Speaker 14 (30:55):
If you don't. If you're gonna roll in the van,
you better make it swagger because that's that's how.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I don't think it's thumping in there with you driving
your daughters have it thumping in there?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe with the music.
Speaker 14 (31:07):
Well you know what, I've been in there for years.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Damn yes, Paulie. I'm on the Toyta website.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
There's an article from twenty twenty one, the Toyda Sienna
driving the swagger Wagon in the twenty twenty one.
Speaker 14 (31:20):
It started it. I started it. Whoa I represent toilet,
I started the swagger Wagon. It's it's they Did they
say it there, Paully? Do they tell Steve Young started this?
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Not officially, but I could feel it. It's about you.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, you just don't get enough credit in your life innovation. Yeah,
I've been innovated a whole lifetredit.
Speaker 14 (31:40):
I threw it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
You were Michael Vick before Michael Vick.
Speaker 14 (31:44):
No, screw this. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it.
I get nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, you got Montana's shadow. I mean you got you
had everything there, Steve. And it's just not fair.
Speaker 14 (31:53):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Life has not been fair to you.
Speaker 14 (31:57):
It has been a rough right from getting out of
the mean streets at Greenwich, Connecticut all the way to today.
It is tough.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Thoughts and prayers, man, thoughts and prayers. You could have
probably rushed for eight thousand yards. In the NFL. It's
like if you're playing today.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
Yeah, today, today's get Look, we don't want to you
guys are sick of me telling you this. But when
they they made all the changes for safety and the
defense so they couldn't launch anymore. You see it yesterday
when they're if you hit somebody hard, they throw a flag.
You cannot launch in any way. It opened up all
of the space in the field and made pro football
college football. You used to have to go make space.
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That's why Derek Henry was famous for a little while
because in the old days in twenty seventeen, sixteen fifteen,
you had to go make space. Now that space is
made for you and now you just have to go
fill it up. And so all the innovative minds like
Sean McVay and Kyle Shannan and Andy Reid that his
age sixty seven years old is dominating because he keeps
reinventing himself and they're innovative. Every week, they go fill
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the space they don't have, They don't line up in
the eye and pound you anymore. It's all getting the
ball out in space. And it's amazing to watch. So
and and you know Tom Brady at the end of
his career is he says, Tom, how's it compared to
the old days? He goes completely different, Like the middle
of the field is unpatrolled, the flats are always open,
and no one can hit me. And so in that way,
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even for Tom, it was significantly different. Let alone the
prototypes of today that can go get all those yards
and kind of just dominate. I would look, Dan, you've
heard me say this. I'm not jealous because that's just
a weird word. But do I like watch the game
today and go, Holy, this is my g like what
this is what I would dream of and that everyone
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say you're the You're the man. This is exactly what NFL.
You know, the NFL is all about, as you like,
I would have dreamed to have someone say that to
me back in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Maybe go through your scrap book today, feel a little
bit better about yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Maybe just drive around.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
I'm over I'm over look let's be honest. I know
the swagg Wagon is mine. I got that, it's but
I don't get crafts. Okay, I don't need credit. I
don't need the credit. I don't need to go feel
better abound. I feel totally fine about, you know, innovation
and bringing things into the world and just watching them
kind of thrive. And so this is just another one.
So I don't I'm I'm don't. Don't think that I'm
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leaving you kind of dejected him down.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay, I'm about a round of applause for Steve. You
know what he was, Steve Jobs before Steve Jobs. That's
the innovator that Steve Young.
Speaker 14 (34:34):
Is and I don't and I don't have to wear
a black turtleneck. Yeah I got. I got a dumber
number of things in my repertory. And I can put
it on with on the parties this weekend with my wife.
She's like, man, you you can do it, so you
can just see it in your mind.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Catching I don't want to see it in my mind,
but but it's there. It was, Yeah, it was something.
I'm sure it was in the swagger Wagon. Thank you, Steve,
Steve Boys, that's Steve Yah, always one of my favorites.
All right, let me take a break. We'll come back
with the I'm In or I'm Out.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Game.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Also, I review Tom Brady Week two and more of
your phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to The
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I'm In or I'm Out. I don't even know what
it is. PAULI said, Hey, I got a new game.
I said, I am all for playing games. I play
games every day. So you're in on the game, yes,
but I could be out. Oh yeah as well. Let's see.
Oh I got a chance to watch Tom Brady critique
(35:55):
Tom Brady thought he did a I mean, the difference
from game one to game two was really sizable. Thought
he did a really good job. But once again, it
has to be instinctive. You can't play, you know, quarterback
with somebody always in your ear talking to you or
you know it. After a while, you have to take over.
(36:15):
And it felt like he was in control as opposed
to people trying to help him and what happens. People
behind the scenes may be speaking to him in his
headset while he's speaking. One of the hardest things that
you ever do, pull you know, letting you behind the
curtain here and broadcasting that. If I'm talking and then
Paulie or Fritzy's saying something in my ear while I'm speaking,
(36:37):
you have to be able to hear this, but you
also have to be able to speak to your audience,
and you could. There were times when somebody was speaking
to Tom in his ear Week one because they were
trying to help him. Well, he paused and then he's listening,
but he's supposed to be talking about the game. I
thought it was less choppy, and I thought it sounded
(36:58):
more conversational.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's what he he had. That's what you aspire to.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You just wanted to be conversational, and it's hard to
do because you haven't done anything like this before and
you're watching a game. Now, you might watch a game
at home with your buddies and you might be saying
some things, but you really have to get close to
that as you're watching a game with your audience.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's like your buddies. Now you're not gonna have the
same language.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You might not be as opinionated, but like Tony Romo
feels like he's in the living room with you. And
I thought Tony had a really good game yesterday. Get
that energy, get that excitement. That's what I want out
of Tom And I thought Week two was sizeably, remarkably
better than Week one. And he's got all season long
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to get ready for the super Bowl. Okay, time to
play I'm in and I'm out.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Custom music. Okay, Dan, I'm gonna say something. And you guys,
just you don't have to pick. You can lay out.
You could have stain. Are you in or You're out?
And once you're in, you're in for the season, not
week two long haul. Okay, all right, first, I'm in
or I'm out. Kyler Murray is a very good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm in.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Who thinks it's an anomaly? It's a grown of an outer.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I feel like if it's taking you this longer than
you're out, I feel like an outer because.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Okay, yeah, this is gonna cool off.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay ye New Call of Duty is coming out soon,
so astractions.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
That's one in.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Three outs Okay, I'm an outer.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah right, the Saints are going to the playoffs. I'm
outer and you're a collapser an hour ago? Is your Saints?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I know they are Saints.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, you're getting you're getting the sports media thing. You
cover both bass No, but it's like you're my days too.
You know, I'm out what Marvinton, I'm in too.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Okay, all right, I'm sticking by my hot take that
Dennis Allen gets fired.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Wow, the dynamic New kickoff.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I I mean, I'm going to be in. I'm in
all the way in. I'm in.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm out because they call it the dynamic kickoff.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
That's the only reason I like the actual play. Calling
it dynamic means I.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Like, I go through Starbucks today and they say, have
a great day, and I said, that's a lot of pressure,
Like how about just have a decent day or a
good day? And they're like, well, okay, have a decent day,
and I go there. Now it's like the dynamic kickoff.
How about it's the new kickoff or it's the kickoff.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
It's funny, as you just made their day a little
worse by having that conversation. Whereas they were trying to
encourage you to have a great day. You then chose
to make theirs worse.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, no, I say, when they say, hey, how's your day?
On go average? And then they go okay, I like that,
all right, PAULI continue, I'm in or I'm out?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
All right? Likes that do Sam Donald resurgence. I'm in,
I'm in, I am out.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I'm out too.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I've read this story for.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
He's with a good team. He was the last time too.
I've read this a million get to play in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Me Benedict Donald by week six?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
A little line.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
He's gonna be Benedict Donald by week six. It's just gonna
go bad.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
It's going to see a horrible passer.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Wait, is he gonna like give his playbook to the
other team? When what does mell out his own teammates?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Like everyone's gonna believe in you and then then you're
gonna pull the pull the rug out from under the Wait.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Wait, I don't think you got the analogy. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. Yeah, do you know what Benedict Donald did?
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah, it's like you're going you're rebelling, You're going against No, Yeah,
you're a trader, he would give his playbook to the packers.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yeah, maybe not the best of now.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
And I know he's tricking people into thinking that he's
on one side.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
He's caught up in Donald Donald.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
It's a year out, that's what Donald.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It was supposed to be a rhyming. Here we go.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Are Donald quickly?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
I was going for arch Manning as a twenty twenty
five Heisman favorite.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Twenty twenty four, twenty four?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Which year did you say? I'm in?
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Last one? The Baltimore Ravens are missing the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Quiet, I can't go there yet. I think they'll figure
it out and get back into the things.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Wow, just to say the the Ravens after two games, Todd,
it's called content, all right?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Last one more games to play? Donald Benedicte, Donald and Donald.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
Just what we were going to last one? I'm in
or I'm Out as a semi regular segment.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I'm in, I like it, I'm in. Yeah, I'm in.
Todd is cold.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I like I'm in.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
I mean, I feel like it's kind of stealing power ranking,
DOWUR rankings, Thunder, but that gay no problem.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Final Hour Fritzie gets to sing with Darius Rucker one
more time.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
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