May 15, 2025 • 42 mins
Former NFL lineman Ross Tucker joins the show to discuss the NFL schedule release. Dallas Mavericks coach Jason Kidd stops by to discuss "the guy from Duke" that the Mavs are excited about “possibly” drafting and talks about his relationship with Dan Patrick and jump shots.
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didn't settle on a poll question for hour one, how
about we do that for hour two and then we'll
get to our good buddy Ross Tucker Seaton.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and put up there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What we were just talking about. What should Steph Curry do?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Mmmm?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
He could do another year with the Warriors, he could
look for another team, or he could just retire.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What's his contract situation? Does he have two years left
on his contract? I'd like to know what they're doing
with Draymond Green and are they gonna stay with Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, Paulie, I have Steph Curry having one more year
on contract at fifty nine million dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, Celtics rolled the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They shot forty five percent from three point range, and
if the Celtics do that, they're going to win.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
New York's still up three to two.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The series now shifts to New York, where the Celtics
are two and a half point underdogs.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
On Friday Night, Wow, the.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Pressure on the Knicks, the Celtics, they can be free,
they can be loose. If you don't win, well you
didn't have your best player. But the Knicks in the
garden and if you lose and it goes back to Boston,
might be the final night for the Nuggets. The Thunder
are four and a half point favorites in Denver with
(02:39):
that game. So you have Game six coming up tonight
Thunder and the Nuggets PGA championship underway in North Carolina.
It's Quail Hollow And the NFL schedule was released last night,
which means we make the smooth segue to Ross Tucker,
CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst, host of
the Ross Tucker Football podcast, and he was also hosting
(03:03):
Westwood ones Live NFL schedule release show last night. Ross,
great to see you. What stood out from the schedule
release last night?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Well, I think the first thing that stood out to me,
Dan is that Westwood one even has a schedule release
show on the radio, and that they.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Asked me to do it.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I'm as curious as anybody to hear what the ratings
are like for people hearing me talk about.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
The schedule that come out.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
It's really unbelievable the way Ross. It's kind of like
this show. We don't want to know the numbers. It's
just let us assume a lot of people are watching
and listening.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's all. Don't get caught up at that.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I mean, it's changed so much from when I was
a player. But like the Today's Show and Good Morning America,
they're like announcing these games during the NBA playoffs, which
is hilarious.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
By the way, Happy Bird, I'm honored to be on
during your birthday.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Please don't talk about wings and a nice salum about
to have like a yogurt parfe or something in my house.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
But you know, so it's so funny.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Dan, as a former player, the first thing that jumped
out to me about the schedule is the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
My mind is blown. Right now, they get four weekends off.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Okay, they have four Thursday games all right now. Two
of those are back to back, so they'll just have
a regular week when they have them back to back,
but they have a bye and then those other three
Thursday games. If you're a player and you have a
Thursday game, you get the weekend off. So you know,
fans don't look at this as much as like a
(04:44):
player does. But it used to be you only have
one by week and maybe you get the weekend off,
but the coach still might have you something to doing
something on Friday. The Cowboys players having four weekends off
during football season is like the crazy thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Okay, but do you think, like, why would the NFL
do this?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Well, because they want to put the Cowboys in as
many standalone games as possible, not just.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Gonna be good. The over under seven and a half wins.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
You know what, It doesn't matter that they care about
the ratings.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
I literally just.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Interviewed Mike North, the VP of broadcasting for the NFL,
for the Ross Tucker Podcast, and I was really curious
about Thanksgiving right the Thanksgiving Day game is Chiefs Cowboys.
And my argument to Mike was, everybody watches the Thanksgiving
game anyway.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Like everybody.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Do you know anybody that doesn't have the game on
the TV on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Their point was, let's see if we can break records.
Let's not just.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Say hey, everybody's gonna watch anyway. We're gonna get thirty
five million people. Let's see how far we can take
this thing and push the limit. And the Chiefs and
the Cowboys are easily the two highest rating teams in
the NFL right now, which is why they put them
together on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The first thing that jumped out at me is the
Steelers playing the Jets to open the season. And do
you do this as just a oh, we didn't realize that,
or is it Well, of course we're going to open
up with this because Aaron Rodgers is going to play
Week one for the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Well, at a minimum, they know that Justin Fields it's
an awkward situation because he got benched last year. The
Steelers tried to resign a this offseason. They wanted him
when they couldn't get Matthew Stafford. They wanted to bring
Fields back, but not enough. They didn't pay him enough,
and Field's probably wasn't happy about getting benched.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I don't blame him, so he goes to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So there's already a built in intrigue in storyline.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I can't buy into the Justin Field storyline.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, I'm going to watch I do like Justin
but I'm not going, Oh man, this is payback time
for Justin Fields against the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The Rogers thing.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
I think that they strongly suspect Rogers will play for
the Steelers, and that obviously takes to another level, which
I think brings up a really interesting point. At this point, Dan,
why hasn't Aaron signed yet?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Okay, you could.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Have made the argument if he's gonna play, you could
have made the argument he wanted to wait to see
how the draft played out.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Right, at this point.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
The only reasonable I'll say this, there's two reasonable arguments
for why he hasn't signed yet.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
One is that you never know what happened.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
With other teams like Derek Carr and the Saints retiring,
and theoretically that gives him another option. Or two, he
doesn't want to take crap from people like me for
not being at the offseason program.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
He doesn't want to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And may he does not want to do OTAs, he
does not want to do mini camp.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
He's gonna wait as.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Long as he can so he doesn't get criticism for that.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
I got news for you, Aaron. I'm gonna criticize you anyway.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
If you know you're gonna go to the Steelers and
you're with a new team, a new offense with Arthur
Smith all those other guys are out there with phase
two of the offseason program right now. Don't tell me
you're committed. Don't tell me you want to win games
this year. Don't tell me it's a priority if you're
not there working with your new teammates in your new offense.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I'm trying to figure out those some of these teams
who are going to be in primetime, like the Dolphins, Well,
the Dolphins have like five primetime games?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Correct? Why?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Dan, we're sharing a brain here. That was one of
the things I was going to bring up. If you
brought it up. The teams, I'm surprised. So the primetime
games is the most interesting aspect of the schedule release
because that's the NFL telling you who they think will
be good or interesting and who they think won't. Right,
So no primetime games for the Browns, Titans or Saints.
(09:08):
Titans maybe the most interesting there since they just had
the number one overall pick, who people already feel like
got disrespected.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
But the Dolphins, I think the Chargers is interesting that
they got five primetime games.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
The Falcons, the Atlanta Falcons, Okay, five primetime games?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Why why?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Like they're not even the favorite in the NFC South,
which isn't a great division.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
The Bucks are, and then I think the Niners is interesting, right.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
The NFL is betting on a big comeback from the Niners.
But I agree the Dolphins jumped out to me for sure.
Among that group of teams, they all get five primetime games,
where the Titans, Saints, and Browns get zero.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You don't want to see the Browns in primetime, do you?
Unless Shador Sanders is playing.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I do want to see him.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You know why, because I think it's gonna be Shador
Sanders Dylan Gabriel starting.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
If you look at the trade they made week one.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
I don't know about Week one, but I think both
of those kids are going to start a bunch of
games this year so that the Browns find out what
they have in them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, okay, but could you imagine this, Ross we're
talking to Ross Tucker. Okay, what if Shadoor Sanders ends
up starting for the Browns and Aaron Rodgers doesn't play
for the Steelers and they have Mason Rudolph and they
decided to pass on Shadoor Sanders. I think shoud Or
Sanders is going to play he's going to start games
this year for the Browns. But Pittsburgh we thought was
(10:37):
going to take him and they passed on him. Well,
you know everybody did, but that to me, could you
imagine if he starts for the Browns and let's say
he is good, you have Mason Rudolph and you decided
to pass on Shador Sanders. How do you think that's
going to go over in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Not real Well, especially when they could have taken him
with that third round pick.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
You know you can argue, Okay, he's not worth the
first rounder.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
They didn't have a second rounder when they passed on
him in the third round. I was floored because he
had this great meeting with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
By the way, Mike Tomlin evidently has a lot of
great meetings. He had a great meeting with Theirs. He
had a terrific meeting with Sador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
You know what the problem is, neither one of those
guys played for the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Well, it's the meeting for.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All surgeries are successful surgeries on athletes, right, All Mike
Tomlin interviews are great interviews. You know, the only team
that we've heard, like the Giants, didn't have a good
interview with shaidor Sanders like that came out and everybody
criticized the reporters say, hey, you know, put a name
to this, and you know whatever, They didn't have a
(11:49):
good meeting with Shador Sanders. But I do think he's
going to start games for them, and uh, I think
that that's going to be an interesting storyline no prime
time games. I don't know if there's any flex in
at any point during the season where you go, you
don't let's take the Cleveland Browns because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I would do that.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I totally agree.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Let's look at this logically, right if you think about
what the Browns did with the Travis Hunter trade and
getting the Jaguars first round pick in twenty twenty six,
they clearly, I think, realize they don't have a franchise quarterback.
They need to try to find one. And what I
would argue is why does it make sense. I mean,
(12:32):
maybe they'll do it for a couple games, but does
it make sense to start Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett
this year?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
The Browns are not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
They're highly unlikely to even go to the playoffs. I
think that they took Gabriel and then in particular Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I think they thought it was value. I think it's
a couple of lottery tickets.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Let both these guys start five or six games this year.
Maybe we hit on one of them, maybe one of them
is the starter, and then we can use those two
first round picks next year to make the team better
around him.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
If not, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
We'll get our franchise quarterback next year with these two
first round picks in a draft that's considered to be
much better at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Would you rather watch Travis Hunter play or should or
Sanders play?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Ooh, I'm gonna say Travis Hunter. I think I'm curious
about Shador just like everybody else's.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
But I'm fascinated by Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I told you last time I was on I think
he's the best college football player I've ever seen, and
I just want to see him play both ways, see
how well it goes, and see what he is on
both sides of the ball, and if it makes sense,
like if he's an above average starter on both sides
and he's playing a lot of snaps, does that make sense?
(13:52):
Or would you rather have him try to specialize in
one and be elite because average starters get one sound,
Elite players or above average starters get one salary.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Elite players get paid a lot more.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
This is We've never seen it before and I'm fascinating
to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Great to see you. Thank you, Ross.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Always, Happy birthday man. Thank you ver so much for
having me.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He
also calls games for CBS Westwood.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
One at Birthday Man. He's always in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He is energy, always in a good mood. He's sort
of a grown up version of Russell in the movie Up.
He's just in a good mood. Always great dude man. Yeah, yes,
really yes, he's in a great reaction to our audience.
When Ross is all right, well take a break. Jason Kidd,
the Mavericks head coach, will join us. Coming up next year.
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I wanted to call in and say happy birthday. We
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
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Speaker 13 (17:53):
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You do not look at a day past thirty five.
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Thank thank you.
Speaker 13 (18:03):
I agree with Seaton on this Aaron Rodgers thing. I
personally think that if you were considering playing again post
retirement or this is I'm joint to retirement playing again,
and you figured out that the person that screwed you
over is your Week one opponent, then that's going to
(18:24):
make you want to play even more.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't think that.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
I don't think the Steelers have really much to do
with it, but I think Aaron, knowing that he could
play the Jets Week one, gets him a little more
off the couch. Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I don't know if Aaron like he's going to come
back just because he wants to prove the Jets wrong
and you're going to face them week one. I just
find it highly coincidental then that we're going to make
this about justin fields getting back at the Steelers. I mean,
they're going to play each other, we know that, but
to lead off this season with them, that's just what
(19:00):
If you said it was week seven, then I'd be like, Okay,
I wouldn't have read anything into it. But week one,
it just fel you know, in the NFL manipulates the schedule.
They decide who's in prime time, they decide who's going
to be overseas, So why wouldn't you manipulate this if
you thought you were you could do it for the
right reasons. And that is Aaron Rodgers playing for the
(19:22):
Steelers against the Jets. That's the only thing I thought of.
And like, Miami's got five prime time games. I don't
know why, but they win eight games last year and
this is a make or break season. It feels like
for the head coach, the quarterback probably throw in Tyreek
Hill as well. This might be last call when you
(19:46):
think about what they've done trying to do. Buffalo is
still great.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't know. Watching Miami, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Didn't you think going into the draft or after the
draft that ty Kill would be shipped?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I did, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It almost felt like he wanted to be And then
he sends out these cryptic messages or emojis, and then
you're like, OK, I don't know what he's saying. You know,
the King of emojis. I don't know what he's saying
in his emojis. But it felt like he wanted to
get out before everybody wanted to get out. But I
think this is this is one of those years for
Tua stay healthy and make the playoffs, and Mike McDaniel,
(20:30):
you're probably a make or break year for your head
coach as well. What's Tyreek thirty one?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He's thirty one. Last year in seventeen games, eighty one
catches just less than a thousand yards, which for anyone
else would be great, but the year before he had
one hundred and nineteen catches for eighteen hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, he wasn't healthy last year, but yeah, there's certain
certain teams where and people have this twisted a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
With the Commanders. I love the story.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I just have to be honest when I see what
they did and how they won what six or seven
games in their last possession, the odds are not going
to be with you, and your schedule will be a
little more demanding, and now you're not sneaking up on people.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's another thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Sometimes we have that team where they surprise you and
then you go, oh, make way, they're going to go
up even higher, and then they take a step back.
I've just seen it too many times. But I'm in
no way rooting against them. I think it's a wonderful story.
They're going to host the draft. You know in a
couple of years. You've got a great quarterback, I like
the coach. You've got an ownership that you can respect.
(21:41):
They're going to have a new stadium downtown. There's a
lot of momentum going on there. And that's great because
having been there when they had the Hogs and Joe thisman,
Joe Gibbs, I mean I got to see RFK. That
place rocked. It was in a great stadium, but that
atmosphere was wonderful, wonderful one of my favorite venues to
(22:03):
be and it's the atmosphere. It's not necessarily the amenities.
You know, I'm not walking around going hey what do
they have on tap here? I'm just looking at what
a football atmosphere is like. And RFK Stadium is up
there with any of the other stadiums that you want
to put them up against. Do you want to update
the poll results? Their seat and we'll get to Jason
(22:25):
Kidd coming up.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, we got up there right now? What should Steph
Curry do?
Speaker 14 (22:30):
Stay with the Warriors, sign a deal elsewhere or retire
right now? Fifty nine percent of the audience have him
staying with the Warriors, followed by signadilla elsewhere. Only seventeen
percent have him retirem Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know, the Cowboys got a lot of love last night,
because the Cowboys always do. The Cowboys are the first
team in NFL history to play six consecutive games against
teams that won at least eleven games the previous season.
So weeks twelve through seventeen, they got Philly, Casey, Detroit, Minnesota,
(23:03):
the Rams, and Washington.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Now stand of.
Speaker 12 (23:09):
A day stand of to day stand outa day stand
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Speaker 3 (23:17):
Day, brought you by Pandia America.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And you also have primetime games, but you also have
standalone games. The Chiefs and the Cowboys and the Commanders
have eight standalone games this season, tied for most in
the NFL. So standalone could be Monday night, Sunday night,
Thursday night, Saturday game, international game. The Cowboys have at
(23:42):
least seven standalone games eight times in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's staying power.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
The Chiefs have had seven or more standalone games four
times over that same span as well. The Chiefs and
the Cowboys, the networks love them. Travis Kelcey was asked
about playing overseas and uh, it didn't sound too excited.
Although I saw Kelsey he dropped twenty five pounds. And
(24:10):
he was asked about playing in Brazil on his New
Heights podcast.
Speaker 15 (24:16):
I mean I'll be there, not to do a podcast. Yeah,
I'll be there pretty busy in the heat. There's just
something about getting closer to the equator that I don't
want to put on football uniform doing.
Speaker 11 (24:29):
That, especially in September.
Speaker 15 (24:31):
I've been in Jacksonville in September and that's miserable. I'd
rather be dry than humid. I'm a sweaty I like
when I'm definitely.
Speaker 11 (24:40):
Water around South Polo. But I think it's rivers or
something like that.
Speaker 15 (24:44):
Right, Yeah, No, I'm if it's hot and humid and
kind of what I'm expecting, I'm going to be miserable,
but we're going to find a way to get a win.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I like Jason Kelcey give me geography lessons on South Paulow.
There are rivers around there or something, right, Yeah, yeah,
I think so. They're like hip meatheads, Yeah, very rich
hip meatheads. We'll take a break. We'll talk to Jason
Kidd when we return here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 3 (25:21):
More phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Mike Charico is going to join us coming up next
hour joining us now Hall of famer Jason Kidd, mAbs
head coach and won an NBA championship with the Maps
back in twenty eleven. Two time Olympic gold medalist. We
were just wondering where do you rank on the all
time assist list. Let's go around the room and guess
where is Jay Kidd on the all time list?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
There?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Todd third, third, Okay, Seaton two, Marvin third, Paul two.
I'm going to go four. Where is Jay Kidd on
the all time assists list?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Stocked number one? Chris Paul new number two spot, Jason
Kidd in a three spot? Lebron James on his heels?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Is Lebron going to catch j kibs?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
He's got five hundred and eight to go.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Man, you're getting kicked. You're getting kicked down here? Man,
how are you doing?
Speaker 11 (26:18):
I'm doing great, Dan, I'm doing great. Yes, that happens.
I didn't play long enough.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Best passer though, in the history of the game, is
who not who had the most assists?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Best passer?
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Best passer. I'm gonna go with Stockton. Why is I
think you know the bounce pass he had, big hands,
could take it off the dribble, could pause with it.
Some would say is maybe double dribble. But I think
he knew how to manipulate the ball off the dribble
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and being able to find his target, and he has
some pretty good targets.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, but when did carrying become legal in the NBA?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
In nineteen sixty sixty. Well, it's always been a part
of the game.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well no, no, like now it's just you can have
your hand on the bottom of the ball and then
go Was it Iverson who started it?
Speaker 11 (27:19):
I don't think it was Iverson. I think it's the
guy we were just talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Was the first guy to carry the ball.
Speaker 11 (27:25):
I think if you look at Stockton, he knew how
to manipulate the driven.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Was he dirty?
Speaker 11 (27:33):
He was smart?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Where were you on Lottery night?
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Lottery night? I was in Newport Beach at a board
meeting for Gold Rental and I thought, okay, well we're
going to probably fall backwards instead of going forward. So
my phone started to go crazy during the meeting, and
I kept texting the person back saying are you sure
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it's not you're missing a one? Because he goes, you're
in the top four and I mean fourteen and he
goes no, and he goes, I think you just got one.
I go, you mean we stayed at eleven and uh,
And then my phone started going crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So that's where I was, Wait, you're not even watching
the lottery.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
I you know, things just weren't going well for us.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Really, what else has happened this year, a lot.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
Of injuries, a lot of inies, but I just felt,
you know, we were going to stay around eleven, if
not go backwards, just the way that things were going
for us this year. But incredible to get number one.
Everyone's excited, the organization, the city, the MAVs fans, and
also the head coach. So we're really excited about being
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number one.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Planning on keeping the pick and taking Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11 (28:58):
Yes, I'm just the coach, So yes, I would say
that we're all concentrating on number one. The draft is
deep and so, but as the name you just brought up,
I think we're all focused.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
On Have you spoken to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
I have not spoken to Cooper Flag. I don't want
to break any of the rules and get us in trouble,
so I want to make sure that when I do
answer these questions that you know the speculation is is
Cooper Flag. But there's you know, we got to go
through the process.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Okay, So you would get in trouble if you did
reach out to Cooper Flag before the draft?
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Yeah, well no, not not technically. Once we bring him in,
we'll get out his name. I would. I'm trying to
be politically correct here and make sure that we don't
get in trouble and I don't step on any toes.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, so the kid from Duke there we go. Are
you are?
Speaker 11 (29:53):
You're excited? We're excited.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I don't want to get you fined. Okay, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
I can't afford the fine. And so we're excited about
the kid at Duke. I can't wait to talk to
the coach over there, coach Shire and also a good
friend of mine, coach k a mentor, and get some
background on the kid at Duke. We're really excited about
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this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You were twenty one as a rookie. I can't imagine
what nineteen is going to be like for the kids
from Duke. How is that different or has the game
made it easier for that transition for somebody that young.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
No, I don't know if it's easier. I think eighteen,
he's going to be drafted. He'll be eighteen and doesn't
turn nineteen until December, and so just understanding he's young,
but he's very talented, can play both ends, and so
being able to have older players and when I say
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that out of respect, they're not dinosaurs. But when you
look at the age kai ad guys that are here,
Clay can definitely help him with the process of going
through a rookie season.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And the kid from Duke doesn't have to walk in
and be the savior like he probably would have been
in Washington, DC or maybe Charlotte. That you can kind
of ease him in to being a third or fourth
option on the team.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
Yeah, I think this is a great situation for him.
I think when you talk about the different guys that
we have already on the team, the pressure of living
up to number one will be a lot easier with
the talent around him. When you talk about the other clubs,
he would have to, you know, produce right away at
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a high, high level. And so I think this is
a great situation for him to grow his game where
the pressure isn't as high, but we are playing for
a championship and so it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer, Mavericks head coach. How were
you told that you had just traded Luca?
Speaker 11 (32:05):
I was told by my boss Nico that we were
going to make a change.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
But where where give me the give me this scenario.
Speaker 11 (32:13):
Hotel, This is in the hotel in Cleveland, and so
he said the news was going to hit in an
hour and and that's how it went down. And so, uh,
when he told me, I started, I went back to
my room to start figuring out how we're going to
use a d and Christy because of this change.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And so so you found out you didn't even get
a chance to argue.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
No, there was there's no arguing. This is this is
what was going to take place. And so uh, for me,
it's to to move forward from past experiences as a player.
I've been traded the day after Christmas, I think from Dallas,
uh to Phoenix and thinking they were trading uh Jimmy
or Jamal and they told me that they were trading
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me and so and so just understanding that the train
keeps moving. And I thought my players and my coaching
staff did an incredible job with you know, once they
heard the news of preparing to keep moving forward and
and especially with all the trade and the injuries, I
thought we did an incredible job.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
When's the last time you spoke to Luca?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
I texted him on that morning, Uh, and that's the
last time I've talked to him.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How did he respond? To your text.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
I don't think he was too happy, and just again
from the experience of being traded, you know, maybe being surprised,
you know, upset feelings are high. But again, I loved
the opportunity of coaching Luca. He's an incredible person and
we all know his talent is one of the best
in the world. And so you know, again my mindset
(33:53):
is to deal with the cars that I'm dealt and
uh and keep pushing forward. And I've always said this
publicly and probably I wish Luca the best. He's one
of the best players in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I thought you were going to say that you meet
with Nico in his hotel room, he tells you he's
trading Luca, and then you go back to your hotel
room and cry.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But but but that didn't happen, right.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
I didn't cry. I was more or less trying to
figure out how we're going to make this thing work.
You know, this is a big trade.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But who do you call first after Nico tells you
that you're trading Luca.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
I didn't call anybody. I put my phone down and
looked at the ceiling. I started trying to brainstorm of
how this is going to go down. I did not
call anybody once this hit, and my my job as
the coaches is to make sure that we all are
pushing in the right direction. There was gonna be a
(34:51):
lot of questions that morning from staff and players, and
I thought Nico did a great job of handling it
by having the meeting and us pushing forward.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Anybody have a better handle than Kyrie in that in NBA.
Speaker 16 (35:05):
History, Oh, I'm gonna say no, But I'm gonna say
there's some close seconds when you talk about Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Thomas underrated by the way.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Very underrated, very underrated. Why I think sometimes it's it's
our fault we don't we don't bring up Isaiah Jay
Williams White Chocolate. I thought his handle and his passing
is incredible storytelling. I don't know if we we don't
(35:43):
do a good, good enough job of storytelling with Isaiah
or our past uh players, And so I think Isaiah
would be right there as one b.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, but I think with isaiah likability, the way they played,
they were the bad boys, you know, they were trying
to hurt Jordan, and I think that maybe that plays
into it with Isaiah.
Speaker 11 (36:08):
Well, I don't know if they were just trying to
hurt Jordan. They were trying to hurt everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But if the Pistons don't treat Michael that way, Michael
doesn't start weightlifting, and like that made Michael even greater.
They're responsible for unleashing, you know, the new and improved
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Yeah, I think. You know, sometimes when we look at
things that take place in our league, some are looked
upon as negatives, but a lot of players or coaches
use them as positives and try to turn it into something.
And as you said, unleashes the beast and Michael and
he took that and ran with it, got stronger. His
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game was, his talent was already elite, and so I
think he used that as motivation to become the best
in the world.
Speaker 17 (36:57):
Do you remember facing him the first time? Yes, Oh
what happened now? It was actually nice. He was nice
to me. I'll never forget I ended up on him. Unfortunately,
I didn't know how the switch happened, but he asked
me in the post, and all I can think about
is just turn around and fade away and keep it
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simple and nice. But he went baseline and he took
off and unfortunately my wife I didn't. I missed it,
and I was like, oh, this is going to be
on ESPN, and he's gonna dunk it and look and
you know, do what he does. But he just did
a nice little reverse layup and looked and kind of winked,
and I say, oh, man, I'm glad he'd dunk it.
Speaker 11 (37:42):
But he took it easy on me.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
But why did you realize he was better than you?
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Oh before tip off?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, you know, you guys have egos.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I mean, like Larry Bird had to get to a
point where he said, you know what, he's the best
player in the game. My magic had to you. You're,
you know, pretty tough when you're going to relinquish something
like that.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Yeah, but I think we all understood when we we
have to be realistic understanding Michael is the best. And
so coming in as a rookie, you know you wanted
that challenge, you wanted to compete against the best, but
understanding he was going to win majority of those battles,
and and he did, and and so you couldn't wait
(38:25):
for that game to be over so that you can
go play else that you can take a stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Maybe they'll write a book on this year for the
Dallas Mavericks one day, just this year of everything that's happened,
because hard to believe, right, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
I think you're right.
Speaker 16 (38:42):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (38:43):
I think there's someone's gonna write a book.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Or thirty for thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
It could be a thirty for thirty for sure. There's
enough content, you know there when you talk about just
there was you know, a season within a season and
there's maybe three seasons just with the trade and with
all the injuries that we had, trying to keep you know,
pushing forward and finding a way into the playing game
(39:10):
and winning one and unfortunately coming up short against Memphis,
but just everything that took place. I think there is
a book there and then probably at thirty for thirty.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Good to talk to you again. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you. You look great man.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
What did you get me?
Speaker 10 (39:29):
Well?
Speaker 11 (39:29):
I was going to say a jump shot, but you
already believe that you can shoot.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So well, now we don't. We don't want to go
down the road, do we. We don't want to go
down memory lane? Because do we?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (39:41):
Why not? It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You I go to Dallas to shoot against you, right, yes,
I come to down, I fly to Dallas to play,
you know you in a game of horse. Yes, And
what happened after practice? Who went home and left me
there out shooting by myself?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
You did well?
Speaker 11 (40:03):
You I forfeited, so you are okay?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah? And then all of a sudden, who becomes a
great three point shooter?
Speaker 10 (40:11):
You do?
Speaker 11 (40:12):
Yeah, you turned me into a great three point shooter?
So you get credit. I'm giving you credit. Where's doing
you turn me into a three point shooter?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You're welcome, You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome, So I
don't need a jump shot.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
We know that.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Maybe what hudder driver? How about this?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
How about a autograph jersey from the kid from Duke?
Speaker 11 (40:39):
Oh done?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, here we go easy, just making dreams come true?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Thank you, Bud. That's Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I told you, guys, the story. I told you the story.
I went to Dallas. We had a great relationship, and
I say that I will beat you in a shooting contest.
And I'm there in the stands waiting for practice to end,
and I'm waiting it ends, and I'm going, where's Jason
(41:12):
the clubhouse guy? Goes, oh, he left, and I go
he left, and uh, he admitted he didn't he knew.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
That I could shoot there. He is right there. He
just came back. He wants to.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
He knows it's true. He knows it's true. Jay Kidd
appearance there, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Like, what'd you get me for my birthday? He's like, well,
you got a jumper or whatever?
Speaker 14 (41:38):
And then he kind of like gives you credit for
his three point takabilly as the gift.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
He're like, you know what else you could get me?
Speaker 10 (41:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I mean yes, I should take credit helping you
and Brook Lopez. I made you guys great three point shooters. Oh,
final hour on the way. You know it's my birthday today, birthday.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
I have a good time.
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
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talking about going to Magic City in Atlanta, which is
within walking distance of our hotel. It's a gentlemen's club
and they serve wings. They're known for their wings there,
(00:41):
and I thought I might not go to Magic City tonight,
but why don't we have wings for my birthday? The
lemon pepper wings, Buffalo wings, Taianki Wings, Caesar salad, and
smoked shrimp cocktail.
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about we do that for hour two and then we'll
get to our good buddy Ross Tucker Seaton.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and put up there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What we were just talking about. What should Steph Curry do?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Mmmm?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
He could do another year with the Warriors, he could
look for another team, or he could just retire.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What's his contract situation? Does he have two years left
on his contract? I'd like to know what they're doing
with Draymond Green and are they gonna stay with Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, Paulie, I have Steph Curry having one more year
on contract at fifty nine million dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, Celtics rolled the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They shot forty five percent from three point range, and
if the Celtics do that, they're going to win.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
New York's still up three to two.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The series now shifts to New York, where the Celtics
are two and a half point underdogs.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
On Friday Night, Wow, the.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Pressure on the Knicks, the Celtics, they can be free,
they can be loose. If you don't win, well you
didn't have your best player. But the Knicks in the
garden and if you lose and it goes back to Boston,
might be the final night for the Nuggets. The Thunder
are four and a half point favorites in Denver with
(02:39):
that game. So you have Game six coming up tonight
Thunder and the Nuggets PGA championship underway in North Carolina.
It's Quail Hollow And the NFL schedule was released last night,
which means we make the smooth segue to Ross Tucker,
CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst, host of
the Ross Tucker Football podcast, and he was also hosting
(03:03):
Westwood ones Live NFL schedule release show last night. Ross,
great to see you. What stood out from the schedule
release last night?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Well, I think the first thing that stood out to me,
Dan is that Westwood one even has a schedule release
show on the radio, and that they.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Asked me to do it.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I'm as curious as anybody to hear what the ratings
are like for people hearing me talk about.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
The schedule that come out.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
It's really unbelievable the way Ross. It's kind of like
this show. We don't want to know the numbers. It's
just let us assume a lot of people are watching
and listening.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's all. Don't get caught up at that.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I mean, it's changed so much from when I was
a player. But like the Today's Show and Good Morning America,
they're like announcing these games during the NBA playoffs, which
is hilarious.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
By the way, Happy Bird, I'm honored to be on
during your birthday.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Please don't talk about wings and a nice salum about
to have like a yogurt parfe or something in my house.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
But you know, so it's so funny.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Dan, as a former player, the first thing that jumped
out to me about the schedule is the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
My mind is blown. Right now, they get four weekends off.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Okay, they have four Thursday games all right now. Two
of those are back to back, so they'll just have
a regular week when they have them back to back,
but they have a bye and then those other three
Thursday games. If you're a player and you have a
Thursday game, you get the weekend off. So you know,
fans don't look at this as much as like a
(04:44):
player does. But it used to be you only have
one by week and maybe you get the weekend off,
but the coach still might have you something to doing
something on Friday. The Cowboys players having four weekends off
during football season is like the crazy thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Okay, but do you think, like, why would the NFL
do this?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Well, because they want to put the Cowboys in as
many standalone games as possible, not just.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Gonna be good. The over under seven and a half wins.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
You know what, It doesn't matter that they care about
the ratings.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
I literally just.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Interviewed Mike North, the VP of broadcasting for the NFL,
for the Ross Tucker Podcast, and I was really curious
about Thanksgiving right the Thanksgiving Day game is Chiefs Cowboys.
And my argument to Mike was, everybody watches the Thanksgiving
game anyway.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Like everybody.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Do you know anybody that doesn't have the game on
the TV on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Their point was, let's see if we can break records.
Let's not just.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Say hey, everybody's gonna watch anyway. We're gonna get thirty
five million people. Let's see how far we can take
this thing and push the limit. And the Chiefs and
the Cowboys are easily the two highest rating teams in
the NFL right now, which is why they put them
together on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The first thing that jumped out at me is the
Steelers playing the Jets to open the season. And do
you do this as just a oh, we didn't realize that,
or is it Well, of course we're going to open
up with this because Aaron Rodgers is going to play
Week one for the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Well, at a minimum, they know that Justin Fields it's
an awkward situation because he got benched last year. The
Steelers tried to resign a this offseason. They wanted him
when they couldn't get Matthew Stafford. They wanted to bring
Fields back, but not enough. They didn't pay him enough,
and Field's probably wasn't happy about getting benched.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I don't blame him, so he goes to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So there's already a built in intrigue in storyline.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I can't buy into the Justin Field storyline.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, I'm going to watch I do like Justin
but I'm not going, Oh man, this is payback time
for Justin Fields against the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
The Rogers thing.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
I think that they strongly suspect Rogers will play for
the Steelers, and that obviously takes to another level, which
I think brings up a really interesting point. At this point, Dan,
why hasn't Aaron signed yet?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Okay, you could.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Have made the argument if he's gonna play, you could
have made the argument he wanted to wait to see
how the draft played out.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Right, at this point.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
The only reasonable I'll say this, there's two reasonable arguments
for why he hasn't signed yet.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
One is that you never know what happened.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
With other teams like Derek Carr and the Saints retiring,
and theoretically that gives him another option. Or two, he
doesn't want to take crap from people like me for
not being at the offseason program.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
He doesn't want to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And may he does not want to do OTAs, he
does not want to do mini camp.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
He's gonna wait as.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Long as he can so he doesn't get criticism for that.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
I got news for you, Aaron. I'm gonna criticize you anyway.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
If you know you're gonna go to the Steelers and
you're with a new team, a new offense with Arthur
Smith all those other guys are out there with phase
two of the offseason program right now. Don't tell me
you're committed. Don't tell me you want to win games
this year. Don't tell me it's a priority if you're
not there working with your new teammates in your new offense.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I'm trying to figure out those some of these teams
who are going to be in primetime, like the Dolphins, Well,
the Dolphins have like five primetime games?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Correct? Why?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Dan, we're sharing a brain here. That was one of
the things I was going to bring up. If you
brought it up. The teams, I'm surprised. So the primetime
games is the most interesting aspect of the schedule release
because that's the NFL telling you who they think will
be good or interesting and who they think won't. Right,
So no primetime games for the Browns, Titans or Saints.
(09:08):
Titans maybe the most interesting there since they just had
the number one overall pick, who people already feel like
got disrespected.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
But the Dolphins, I think the Chargers is interesting that
they got five primetime games.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
The Falcons, the Atlanta Falcons, Okay, five primetime games?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Why why?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Like they're not even the favorite in the NFC South,
which isn't a great division.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
The Bucks are, and then I think the Niners is interesting, right.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
The NFL is betting on a big comeback from the Niners.
But I agree the Dolphins jumped out to me for sure.
Among that group of teams, they all get five primetime games,
where the Titans, Saints, and Browns get zero.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You don't want to see the Browns in primetime, do you?
Unless Shador Sanders is playing.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I do want to see him.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You know why, because I think it's gonna be Shador
Sanders Dylan Gabriel starting.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
If you look at the trade they made week one.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
I don't know about Week one, but I think both
of those kids are going to start a bunch of
games this year so that the Browns find out what
they have in them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, okay, but could you imagine this, Ross we're
talking to Ross Tucker. Okay, what if Shadoor Sanders ends
up starting for the Browns and Aaron Rodgers doesn't play
for the Steelers and they have Mason Rudolph and they
decided to pass on Shadoor Sanders. I think shoud Or
Sanders is going to play he's going to start games
this year for the Browns. But Pittsburgh we thought was
(10:37):
going to take him and they passed on him. Well,
you know everybody did, but that to me, could you
imagine if he starts for the Browns and let's say
he is good, you have Mason Rudolph and you decided
to pass on Shador Sanders. How do you think that's
going to go over in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Not real Well, especially when they could have taken him
with that third round pick.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
You know you can argue, Okay, he's not worth the
first rounder.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
They didn't have a second rounder when they passed on
him in the third round. I was floored because he
had this great meeting with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
By the way, Mike Tomlin evidently has a lot of
great meetings. He had a great meeting with Theirs. He
had a terrific meeting with Sador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
You know what the problem is, neither one of those
guys played for the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Well, it's the meeting for.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All surgeries are successful surgeries on athletes, right, All Mike
Tomlin interviews are great interviews. You know, the only team
that we've heard, like the Giants, didn't have a good
interview with shaidor Sanders like that came out and everybody
criticized the reporters say, hey, you know, put a name
to this, and you know whatever, They didn't have a
(11:49):
good meeting with Shador Sanders. But I do think he's
going to start games for them, and uh, I think
that that's going to be an interesting storyline no prime
time games. I don't know if there's any flex in
at any point during the season where you go, you
don't let's take the Cleveland Browns because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I would do that.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I totally agree.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Let's look at this logically, right if you think about
what the Browns did with the Travis Hunter trade and
getting the Jaguars first round pick in twenty twenty six,
they clearly, I think, realize they don't have a franchise quarterback.
They need to try to find one. And what I
would argue is why does it make sense. I mean,
(12:32):
maybe they'll do it for a couple games, but does
it make sense to start Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett
this year?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
The Browns are not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
They're highly unlikely to even go to the playoffs. I
think that they took Gabriel and then in particular Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
I think they thought it was value. I think it's
a couple of lottery tickets.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Let both these guys start five or six games this year.
Maybe we hit on one of them, maybe one of them
is the starter, and then we can use those two
first round picks next year to make the team better
around him.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
If not, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
We'll get our franchise quarterback next year with these two
first round picks in a draft that's considered to be
much better at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Would you rather watch Travis Hunter play or should or
Sanders play?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Ooh, I'm gonna say Travis Hunter. I think I'm curious
about Shador just like everybody else's.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
But I'm fascinated by Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I told you last time I was on I think
he's the best college football player I've ever seen, and
I just want to see him play both ways, see
how well it goes, and see what he is on
both sides of the ball, and if it makes sense,
like if he's an above average starter on both sides
and he's playing a lot of snaps, does that make sense?
(13:52):
Or would you rather have him try to specialize in
one and be elite because average starters get one sound,
Elite players or above average starters get one salary.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Elite players get paid a lot more.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
This is We've never seen it before and I'm fascinating
to see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Great to see you. Thank you, Ross.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Always, Happy birthday man. Thank you ver so much for
having me.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He
also calls games for CBS Westwood.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
One at Birthday Man. He's always in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He is energy, always in a good mood. He's sort
of a grown up version of Russell in the movie Up.
He's just in a good mood. Always great dude man. Yeah, yes,
really yes, he's in a great reaction to our audience.
When Ross is all right, well take a break. Jason Kidd,
the Mavericks head coach, will join us. Coming up next year.
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golf course. But there was a quote that I saw.
Hunter Mayhan used to be a top top golfer. He
said that he was describing this golf course. He said,
(16:15):
quail Hollow is well like a Kardashian. It's very modern, beautiful,
well kept, but it lacks a soul or character.
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Golf stras. Yeah, who would have.
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Thought the Kardashians and Quaylehollow would be trending the same time?
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to do is it's going to show you how to
(17:07):
thread that needle of that I think only Fritz he
can thread, which is gameplay not so much, but content
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Speaker 2 (17:17):
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Speaker 12 (17:24):
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I wanted to call in and say happy birthday. We
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
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You do not look at a day past thirty five.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Thank thank you.
Speaker 13 (18:03):
I agree with Seaton on this Aaron Rodgers thing. I
personally think that if you were considering playing again post
retirement or this is I'm joint to retirement playing again,
and you figured out that the person that screwed you
over is your Week one opponent, then that's going to
(18:24):
make you want to play even more.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't think that.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
I don't think the Steelers have really much to do
with it, but I think Aaron, knowing that he could
play the Jets Week one, gets him a little more
off the couch. Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I don't know if Aaron like he's going to come
back just because he wants to prove the Jets wrong
and you're going to face them week one. I just
find it highly coincidental then that we're going to make
this about justin fields getting back at the Steelers. I mean,
they're going to play each other, we know that, but
to lead off this season with them, that's just what
(19:00):
If you said it was week seven, then I'd be like, Okay,
I wouldn't have read anything into it. But week one,
it just fel you know, in the NFL manipulates the schedule.
They decide who's in prime time, they decide who's going
to be overseas, So why wouldn't you manipulate this if
you thought you were you could do it for the
right reasons. And that is Aaron Rodgers playing for the
(19:22):
Steelers against the Jets. That's the only thing I thought of.
And like, Miami's got five prime time games. I don't
know why, but they win eight games last year and
this is a make or break season. It feels like
for the head coach, the quarterback probably throw in Tyreek
Hill as well. This might be last call when you
(19:46):
think about what they've done trying to do. Buffalo is
still great.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't know. Watching Miami, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Didn't you think going into the draft or after the
draft that ty Kill would be shipped?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I did, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It almost felt like he wanted to be And then
he sends out these cryptic messages or emojis, and then
you're like, OK, I don't know what he's saying. You know,
the King of emojis. I don't know what he's saying
in his emojis. But it felt like he wanted to
get out before everybody wanted to get out. But I
think this is this is one of those years for
Tua stay healthy and make the playoffs, and Mike McDaniel,
(20:30):
you're probably a make or break year for your head
coach as well. What's Tyreek thirty one?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He's thirty one. Last year in seventeen games, eighty one
catches just less than a thousand yards, which for anyone
else would be great, but the year before he had
one hundred and nineteen catches for eighteen hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, he wasn't healthy last year, but yeah, there's certain
certain teams where and people have this twisted a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
With the Commanders. I love the story.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I just have to be honest when I see what
they did and how they won what six or seven
games in their last possession, the odds are not going
to be with you, and your schedule will be a
little more demanding, and now you're not sneaking up on people.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's another thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Sometimes we have that team where they surprise you and
then you go, oh, make way, they're going to go
up even higher, and then they take a step back.
I've just seen it too many times. But I'm in
no way rooting against them. I think it's a wonderful story.
They're going to host the draft. You know in a
couple of years. You've got a great quarterback, I like
the coach. You've got an ownership that you can respect.
(21:41):
They're going to have a new stadium downtown. There's a
lot of momentum going on there. And that's great because
having been there when they had the Hogs and Joe thisman,
Joe Gibbs, I mean I got to see RFK. That
place rocked. It was in a great stadium, but that
atmosphere was wonderful, wonderful one of my favorite venues to
(22:03):
be and it's the atmosphere. It's not necessarily the amenities.
You know, I'm not walking around going hey what do
they have on tap here? I'm just looking at what
a football atmosphere is like. And RFK Stadium is up
there with any of the other stadiums that you want
to put them up against. Do you want to update
the poll results? Their seat and we'll get to Jason
(22:25):
Kidd coming up.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, we got up there right now? What should Steph
Curry do?
Speaker 14 (22:30):
Stay with the Warriors, sign a deal elsewhere or retire
right now? Fifty nine percent of the audience have him
staying with the Warriors, followed by signadilla elsewhere. Only seventeen
percent have him retirem Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know, the Cowboys got a lot of love last night,
because the Cowboys always do. The Cowboys are the first
team in NFL history to play six consecutive games against
teams that won at least eleven games the previous season.
So weeks twelve through seventeen, they got Philly, Casey, Detroit, Minnesota,
(23:03):
the Rams, and Washington.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Now stand of.
Speaker 12 (23:09):
A day stand of to day stand outa day stand
outa day This is the stand of the.
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Day, brought you by Pandia America.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And you also have primetime games, but you also have
standalone games. The Chiefs and the Cowboys and the Commanders
have eight standalone games this season, tied for most in
the NFL. So standalone could be Monday night, Sunday night,
Thursday night, Saturday game, international game. The Cowboys have at
(23:42):
least seven standalone games eight times in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's staying power.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
The Chiefs have had seven or more standalone games four
times over that same span as well. The Chiefs and
the Cowboys, the networks love them. Travis Kelcey was asked
about playing overseas and uh, it didn't sound too excited.
Although I saw Kelsey he dropped twenty five pounds. And
(24:10):
he was asked about playing in Brazil on his New
Heights podcast.
Speaker 15 (24:16):
I mean I'll be there, not to do a podcast. Yeah,
I'll be there pretty busy in the heat. There's just
something about getting closer to the equator that I don't
want to put on football uniform doing.
Speaker 11 (24:29):
That, especially in September.
Speaker 15 (24:31):
I've been in Jacksonville in September and that's miserable. I'd
rather be dry than humid. I'm a sweaty I like
when I'm definitely.
Speaker 11 (24:40):
Water around South Polo. But I think it's rivers or
something like that.
Speaker 15 (24:44):
Right, Yeah, No, I'm if it's hot and humid and
kind of what I'm expecting, I'm going to be miserable,
but we're going to find a way to get a win.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I like Jason Kelcey give me geography lessons on South Paulow.
There are rivers around there or something, right, Yeah, yeah,
I think so. They're like hip meatheads, Yeah, very rich
hip meatheads. We'll take a break. We'll talk to Jason
Kidd when we return here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
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Speaker 3 (25:21):
More phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Mike Charico is going to join us coming up next
hour joining us now Hall of famer Jason Kidd, mAbs
head coach and won an NBA championship with the Maps
back in twenty eleven. Two time Olympic gold medalist. We
were just wondering where do you rank on the all
time assist list. Let's go around the room and guess
where is Jay Kidd on the all time list?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
There?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Todd third, third, Okay, Seaton two, Marvin third, Paul two.
I'm going to go four. Where is Jay Kidd on
the all time assists list?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Stocked number one? Chris Paul new number two spot, Jason
Kidd in a three spot? Lebron James on his heels?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Is Lebron going to catch j kibs?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
He's got five hundred and eight to go.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Man, you're getting kicked. You're getting kicked down here? Man,
how are you doing?
Speaker 11 (26:18):
I'm doing great, Dan, I'm doing great. Yes, that happens.
I didn't play long enough.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Best passer though, in the history of the game, is
who not who had the most assists?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Best passer?
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Best passer. I'm gonna go with Stockton. Why is I
think you know the bounce pass he had, big hands,
could take it off the dribble, could pause with it.
Some would say is maybe double dribble. But I think
he knew how to manipulate the ball off the dribble
(26:54):
and being able to find his target, and he has
some pretty good targets.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, but when did carrying become legal in the NBA?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
In nineteen sixty sixty. Well, it's always been a part
of the game.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well no, no, like now it's just you can have
your hand on the bottom of the ball and then
go Was it Iverson who started it?
Speaker 11 (27:19):
I don't think it was Iverson. I think it's the
guy we were just talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Was the first guy to carry the ball.
Speaker 11 (27:25):
I think if you look at Stockton, he knew how
to manipulate the driven.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Was he dirty?
Speaker 11 (27:33):
He was smart?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Where were you on Lottery night?
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Lottery night? I was in Newport Beach at a board
meeting for Gold Rental and I thought, okay, well we're
going to probably fall backwards instead of going forward. So
my phone started to go crazy during the meeting, and
I kept texting the person back saying are you sure
(28:03):
it's not you're missing a one? Because he goes, you're
in the top four and I mean fourteen and he
goes no, and he goes, I think you just got one.
I go, you mean we stayed at eleven and uh,
And then my phone started going crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So that's where I was, Wait, you're not even watching
the lottery.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
I you know, things just weren't going well for us.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Really, what else has happened this year, a lot.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
Of injuries, a lot of inies, but I just felt,
you know, we were going to stay around eleven, if
not go backwards, just the way that things were going
for us this year. But incredible to get number one.
Everyone's excited, the organization, the city, the MAVs fans, and
also the head coach. So we're really excited about being
(28:53):
number one.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Planning on keeping the pick and taking Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11 (28:58):
Yes, I'm just the coach, So yes, I would say
that we're all concentrating on number one. The draft is
deep and so, but as the name you just brought up,
I think we're all focused.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
On Have you spoken to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
I have not spoken to Cooper Flag. I don't want
to break any of the rules and get us in trouble,
so I want to make sure that when I do
answer these questions that you know the speculation is is
Cooper Flag. But there's you know, we got to go
through the process.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Okay, So you would get in trouble if you did
reach out to Cooper Flag before the draft?
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Yeah, well no, not not technically. Once we bring him in,
we'll get out his name. I would. I'm trying to
be politically correct here and make sure that we don't
get in trouble and I don't step on any toes.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, so the kid from Duke there we go. Are
you are?
Speaker 11 (29:53):
You're excited? We're excited.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I don't want to get you fined. Okay, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
I can't afford the fine. And so we're excited about
the kid at Duke. I can't wait to talk to
the coach over there, coach Shire and also a good
friend of mine, coach k a mentor, and get some
background on the kid at Duke. We're really excited about
(30:20):
this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You were twenty one as a rookie. I can't imagine
what nineteen is going to be like for the kids
from Duke. How is that different or has the game
made it easier for that transition for somebody that young.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
No, I don't know if it's easier. I think eighteen,
he's going to be drafted. He'll be eighteen and doesn't
turn nineteen until December, and so just understanding he's young,
but he's very talented, can play both ends, and so
being able to have older players and when I say
(30:56):
that out of respect, they're not dinosaurs. But when you
look at the age kai ad guys that are here,
Clay can definitely help him with the process of going
through a rookie season.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And the kid from Duke doesn't have to walk in
and be the savior like he probably would have been
in Washington, DC or maybe Charlotte. That you can kind
of ease him in to being a third or fourth
option on the team.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
Yeah, I think this is a great situation for him.
I think when you talk about the different guys that
we have already on the team, the pressure of living
up to number one will be a lot easier with
the talent around him. When you talk about the other clubs,
he would have to, you know, produce right away at
(31:43):
a high, high level. And so I think this is
a great situation for him to grow his game where
the pressure isn't as high, but we are playing for
a championship and so it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer, Mavericks head coach. How were
you told that you had just traded Luca?
Speaker 11 (32:05):
I was told by my boss Nico that we were
going to make a change.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
But where where give me the give me this scenario.
Speaker 11 (32:13):
Hotel, This is in the hotel in Cleveland, and so
he said the news was going to hit in an
hour and and that's how it went down. And so, uh,
when he told me, I started, I went back to
my room to start figuring out how we're going to
use a d and Christy because of this change.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And so so you found out you didn't even get
a chance to argue.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
No, there was there's no arguing. This is this is
what was going to take place. And so uh, for me,
it's to to move forward from past experiences as a player.
I've been traded the day after Christmas, I think from Dallas,
uh to Phoenix and thinking they were trading uh Jimmy
or Jamal and they told me that they were trading
(32:58):
me and so and so just understanding that the train
keeps moving. And I thought my players and my coaching
staff did an incredible job with you know, once they
heard the news of preparing to keep moving forward and
and especially with all the trade and the injuries, I
thought we did an incredible job.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
When's the last time you spoke to Luca?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
I texted him on that morning, Uh, and that's the
last time I've talked to him.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How did he respond? To your text.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
I don't think he was too happy, and just again
from the experience of being traded, you know, maybe being surprised,
you know, upset feelings are high. But again, I loved
the opportunity of coaching Luca. He's an incredible person and
we all know his talent is one of the best
in the world. And so you know, again my mindset
(33:53):
is to deal with the cars that I'm dealt and
uh and keep pushing forward. And I've always said this
publicly and probably I wish Luca the best. He's one
of the best players in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I thought you were going to say that you meet
with Nico in his hotel room, he tells you he's
trading Luca, and then you go back to your hotel
room and cry.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But but but that didn't happen, right.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
I didn't cry. I was more or less trying to
figure out how we're going to make this thing work.
You know, this is a big trade.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But who do you call first after Nico tells you
that you're trading Luca.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
I didn't call anybody. I put my phone down and
looked at the ceiling. I started trying to brainstorm of
how this is going to go down. I did not
call anybody once this hit, and my my job as
the coaches is to make sure that we all are
pushing in the right direction. There was gonna be a
(34:51):
lot of questions that morning from staff and players, and
I thought Nico did a great job of handling it
by having the meeting and us pushing forward.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Anybody have a better handle than Kyrie in that in NBA.
Speaker 16 (35:05):
History, Oh, I'm gonna say no, But I'm gonna say
there's some close seconds when you talk about Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Thomas underrated by the way.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
Very underrated, very underrated. Why I think sometimes it's it's
our fault we don't we don't bring up Isaiah Jay
Williams White Chocolate. I thought his handle and his passing
is incredible storytelling. I don't know if we we don't
(35:43):
do a good, good enough job of storytelling with Isaiah
or our past uh players, And so I think Isaiah
would be right there as one b.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, but I think with isaiah likability, the way they played,
they were the bad boys, you know, they were trying
to hurt Jordan, and I think that maybe that plays
into it with Isaiah.
Speaker 11 (36:08):
Well, I don't know if they were just trying to
hurt Jordan. They were trying to hurt everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But if the Pistons don't treat Michael that way, Michael
doesn't start weightlifting, and like that made Michael even greater.
They're responsible for unleashing, you know, the new and improved
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Yeah, I think. You know, sometimes when we look at
things that take place in our league, some are looked
upon as negatives, but a lot of players or coaches
use them as positives and try to turn it into something.
And as you said, unleashes the beast and Michael and
he took that and ran with it, got stronger. His
(36:48):
game was, his talent was already elite, and so I
think he used that as motivation to become the best
in the world.
Speaker 17 (36:57):
Do you remember facing him the first time? Yes, Oh
what happened now? It was actually nice. He was nice
to me. I'll never forget I ended up on him. Unfortunately,
I didn't know how the switch happened, but he asked
me in the post, and all I can think about
is just turn around and fade away and keep it
(37:20):
simple and nice. But he went baseline and he took
off and unfortunately my wife I didn't. I missed it,
and I was like, oh, this is going to be
on ESPN, and he's gonna dunk it and look and
you know, do what he does. But he just did
a nice little reverse layup and looked and kind of winked,
and I say, oh, man, I'm glad he'd dunk it.
Speaker 11 (37:42):
But he took it easy on me.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
But why did you realize he was better than you?
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Oh before tip off?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, you know, you guys have egos.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I mean, like Larry Bird had to get to a
point where he said, you know what, he's the best
player in the game. My magic had to you. You're,
you know, pretty tough when you're going to relinquish something
like that.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Yeah, but I think we all understood when we we
have to be realistic understanding Michael is the best. And
so coming in as a rookie, you know you wanted
that challenge, you wanted to compete against the best, but
understanding he was going to win majority of those battles,
and and he did, and and so you couldn't wait
(38:25):
for that game to be over so that you can
go play else that you can take a stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Maybe they'll write a book on this year for the
Dallas Mavericks one day, just this year of everything that's happened,
because hard to believe, right, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
I think you're right.
Speaker 16 (38:42):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (38:43):
I think there's someone's gonna write a book.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Or thirty for thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
It could be a thirty for thirty for sure. There's
enough content, you know there when you talk about just
there was you know, a season within a season and
there's maybe three seasons just with the trade and with
all the injuries that we had, trying to keep you know,
pushing forward and finding a way into the playing game
(39:10):
and winning one and unfortunately coming up short against Memphis,
but just everything that took place. I think there is
a book there and then probably at thirty for thirty.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Good to talk to you again. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
Happy birthday, Thank you, thank you. You look great man.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
What did you get me?
Speaker 10 (39:29):
Well?
Speaker 11 (39:29):
I was going to say a jump shot, but you
already believe that you can shoot.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So well, now we don't. We don't want to go
down the road, do we. We don't want to go
down memory lane? Because do we?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (39:41):
Why not? It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You I go to Dallas to shoot against you, right, yes,
I come to down, I fly to Dallas to play,
you know you in a game of horse. Yes, And
what happened after practice? Who went home and left me
there out shooting by myself?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
You did well?
Speaker 11 (40:03):
You I forfeited, so you are okay?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah? And then all of a sudden, who becomes a
great three point shooter?
Speaker 10 (40:11):
You do?
Speaker 11 (40:12):
Yeah, you turned me into a great three point shooter?
So you get credit. I'm giving you credit. Where's doing
you turn me into a three point shooter?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You're welcome, You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome, So I
don't need a jump shot.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
We know that.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Maybe what hudder driver? How about this?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
How about a autograph jersey from the kid from Duke?
Speaker 11 (40:39):
Oh done?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, here we go easy, just making dreams come true?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Thank you, Bud. That's Jason Kidd, Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I told you, guys, the story. I told you the story.
I went to Dallas. We had a great relationship, and
I say that I will beat you in a shooting contest.
And I'm there in the stands waiting for practice to end,
and I'm waiting it ends, and I'm going, where's Jason
(41:12):
the clubhouse guy? Goes, oh, he left, and I go
he left, and uh, he admitted he didn't he knew.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
That I could shoot there. He is right there. He
just came back. He wants to.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
He knows it's true. He knows it's true. Jay Kidd
appearance there, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Like, what'd you get me for my birthday? He's like, well,
you got a jumper or whatever?
Speaker 14 (41:38):
And then he kind of like gives you credit for
his three point takabilly as the gift.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
He're like, you know what else you could get me?
Speaker 10 (41:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I mean yes, I should take credit helping you
and Brook Lopez. I made you guys great three point shooters. Oh,
final hour on the way. You know it's my birthday today, birthday.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
I have a good time.
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