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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Ed's Dan
Patrick Show. College football coming up tonight, it'll be Miami
and Old Miss Miami favored by three and a half.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's the Fiesta Bowl.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And then you'll have Oregon in Indiana rematch that will
be on Friday night. We'll talk some NFL. We'll get
ready for the weekend. Ryan Fitzpatrick, former quarterback now working
for NFL on prime. Jesse Palmer ESPN college football analysts
will stop by as well. I'm not even sure if
we settled on a poll question in the first hour
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of the program. I maybe didn't do my responsibilities by
asking Seaton, but I'm sure he put up a poll
question or two.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's okay.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We actually thrice dan oh, a poll question thrice wow.
Today already we have up there. Which team got better yesterday?
The Atlanta Hawks or the Washington Wizards either, well one
of them had to have, right, The Atlanta Hawks slightly
got better.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I have about fifty three percent.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
After the Blockbuster deal, after the Blockbuster trade that took place. Yeah,
the Atlanta Hawks slightly better yesterday. I don't know if
that's additioned by subtraction in the minds of this audience
or not. Yes, it is no offense too, Yes it
is CJ. McCollum, et cetera. Yeah. We also have up
there a bracket to get predictions in for the AFC
and NFC playoff right now. In the NFC, the Rams
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have about thirty percent of that vote, and then there's
a three way tie between the Bears, Eagles, and Seahawks
at fifteen percent. And then in the AFC, Bills have
thirty three percent of that vote, followed by the Patriots
of twenty five. They're both kind of running away with
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay age seven seven to three DP show Operator Tyler's
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of the Dan Patrick Show. You know, you start to
look at these games this weekend in the NFL, and
now I think we look at them differently, at least
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for a couple of teams, because when I talked to
Dan Orlofsky yesterday, I said, is Sean McDermott coaching for
his job this weekend, and he said, I hate to
answer this question, but if I'm going to be honest,
I would say, yes, they're favored by one and a
half at Jacksonville. But now you have to factor in
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that you have John Harball out there. So this is
changing a lot for a couple of teams, a couple
of teams that are in the playoffs, and certainly a
couple of teams that have held on to their current coaches,
like the Miami Dolphins. Are they going to keep their
current head coach? If John Harball would be interested the
Pittsburgh situation, I don't see that with John Harball. If
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Mike decides that he's going to go into TV, which
I think that there is still a very good chance
that that could happen with Mike Tomlin, that he's not
going to take another coaching job, but he would get
into TV and almost you know, there was a trend
there for a long time where coaches would come into
the Mothership and they'd be there for a year or
two and then they would go back out into the
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coaching pool, and maybe that's what Mike Tomlin. And he's
still relatively young, and maybe you can sit watch and
then figure out the place that's ideal for you. It's
like when John Gruden came out of the booth and
I thought, gosh, you know what, you better be right.
You be it's a lot of money the Raiders paid you,
but you better be right because you don't get that
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job back. And he's not going to get that job back.
I don't know if he's going to get another head
coaching job. But you go in, you got the money,
and you couldn't do much with that organization. Yeah, obviously
got in trouble with the league, but when you take
those jobs, you know, if you're giving up a TV job,
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chances are you won't get the TV job back. And
those TV jobs you can stay there for ten fifteen years.
Look at Bill Kawer, Jimmy Johnson, Tony Duneen. You know,
I know that probably feelers for Tony to coach the
Detroit Lions before Dan Campbell. And you know, these franchises
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are doing the right thing, like let's just ask, let's
just ask if this person would be interested, and you
know they've got good TV jobs, and you would think
with Bill Cower's makeup, that man, I got to have
something competitive and that's the one thing that you just
can't get. You can't replicate that. The only thing you
can do that comes close to that as a former
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player coach is to do a game, because when you
do a game, now you're at least involved in the setting.
When you do studio, it's very sterile, and sometimes trying
to get guys to be animated, to be excited, that's
difficult to do in that kind of setting. Out of
the game, like JJ Watt is better doing a game
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because that kind of fits his personality. You want that,
you know, Brady needs to be involved.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He needs to be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
At a game dissecting, you know, kind of sorting everything
out here. I'm going to prepare for two teams here.
When you're in the studio, hey, you got thirty seconds
to talk about bo Nix.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And then you start talking, they go, you know, we're
gonna cut it short fifteen seconds and then you go okay,
and then you throw out something.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You don't even know what you said.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You got somebody talking in to your ear and you're like,
there's no other setting like that.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I gets.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I can tell you what being a studio analyst is like.
And somebody speaking into your ear. Like as a host,
there'd be times when I'm talking and I have somebody
in my ear telling me, hey, throw it to Mike Florio,
He's got breaking news. So I'm listening to Tony Dungee
tell me something, or I'm talking to Tony's setting him up,
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and I've got somebody saying, hey Florio's got breaking news.
We do it here. You know, I could be talking
Paula Goes, I got breaking news. I guess who just
got fired here? Oh, Charles Barkley is going to be
able to join us in ten minutes. That's what happens.
Charles Barkley got fired, well kind of with TNT left
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and new ESPN would do this. But trying to tell
somebody what that's like, because look, I've grown up with
headphones on for forty years, or you have you know,
what is called an IFB that's in your ear, so
you don't see this on TV, but it's there.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then there's talking to you.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But these you know, former players, these former coaches, it
is foreign. It is still difficult after all these years
that when somebody's talking to you and you're speaking and
you're trying to make sense and it's really challenging.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But to be in the studio, it is.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You go in there, you have a pre game, you
might have you know, breakfast, and then you have a
pre you know, rundown, and then all of a sudden you.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Go out there. You're all fired up. You know, you
got an hour show or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Rich Eisen has a you know, three or four hour show,
and then all of a sudden, and then all of
a sudden, you just watch games, might have something to eat,
and then halftime gear up, and then all of a
sudden and then you just sit and watch, and then
you got to gear up the very end, and then
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that's it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Then you're done. Yes, Tod, how.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Long did it take you to not get distracted or
lose your train of thought? Or or the tendency will
be to stop talking at that mother while someone's in
your ear. They had to take a while to hone
that skill. Not from day one, certain.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, still happens. It just it's it's a natural instinct.
If somebody starts to say something to you, you stop.
You know, Marvel will give me time cues when I'm
doing commercial reads, and it'll be like, you'll give me
thirty and then you'll give me ten and you know,
inevitably sometimes you just kind of stop. Yes, Tom, what
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happens if for whatever reason, you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Didn't hear what was whispered in your ear and they're
telling you something important and I know over time you
get used to it, but you were in the middle
of saying something, so you're hearing yourself talk and think
about what you're gonna say next. How do you let
a producer or the co anchor know that I don't
I don't know what kind of cue they just get
me or what they just said for me to say.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I just usually do a little bit of a hand signal,
Oh like I need that again? Yeah, like yeah, but
you don't want it to be like you know, theatrical No, No,
you just do a little you know, give it to
me again.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Here, yeah, PAULI we do that here.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
If I set into your ear Charles Barkley next hour,
not this hour, and you didn't hear me, you would
give me a little headshake, like shaking off the catcher,
just a little. And I know I gotta say that again.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
We say good morning if you're watching on Peacock and
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affiliates as well. Are you rooting for Let's say you
don't have you you're not a fanable miss or Miami?
Who are you rooting for tonight? But to me, it's
obvious I'm rooting for Old Miss because that kind of
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creates the mess continues. The conversation continues. The Lane Kiffin situation,
Miami's been here before. This is foreign as great as
Indiana's story is, old miss story is pretty damn good, Like,
oh my god, they're in the final four.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
This is old Miss.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now, Indiana Trump's everybody because of their previous one hundred
years football. They were the losing his team in college
football history. But Old Miss, this is a great story.
The Lane Kiffin scenario, yes, Mark, But.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
For new generation Miami seems like a Cinderella story. Now,
if you're under thirty five, you don't remember the eighties
and nineties, even the early oughts when they were just
dominating college football. So you're like, oh, look at this Miami.
What's Michael Irving doing out there? And they have no
idea of what Miami he used to be. So is
it just the lane Kiffin factor that's making you root
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for Old Miss?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, but I was impressed with Miami. I've been really
impressed with that defense. So I don't know if that's
enough to go. Boy, I hope, you know, let's bring
back to you. And then I got Michael Irvin on
the sidelines acting silly, and there's Ray Lewis there, there's
Ed Reed there.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, Paulie and Ole Miss.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Feels like a great program, but they also feel like
an SEC school that's always on the cusp. Remember a
bunch of years ago, Lawan Treadwell got tackled right before
the end zone they were going, and it feels like
they've been close before and it'd be refreshing to see
them get there.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah. Yeah, that's when it wasn't nil they were just
paying players.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It felt like, allegedly, allegedly, that's how you got to
come Dechaine.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Those guys, that's where you go. Wait a minute, that
guy's going there blips too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
The thing I like about tonight's game, if you look
at it just without Lane Kiffin, is it's sort of
like two underdogs got further than they were supposed to.
Both of them got there with huge upsets. Miami's wrote
to get there. It was crazy what they beat Texas
A and m into Ohio State. Right, So I mean
those are two big wins for an ACC school that
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usually doesn't get a ton of respect.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And you're right when you look at Miami now because
we thought, well they shouldn't get in, Notre Dame should
get in, right, But Miami is proving that they did belong.
Alabama didn't prove it belonged old miss losing Lane Kiffin
or are they going to drop down?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And thankfully they didn't. And that's a great story.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Let's see Adam and Phoenix. Good morning, Adam. What's on
your mind today?
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Hey man?
Speaker 9 (11:44):
First time, long time two twenty five five nine. So
you already said by Tom Win if he does end
up either separating or getting fire from the Steers as he.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
Probably wanted to TV for a year. But if you're
the Jets that I'm a long time suffering Jets fat
like thirty years now, you have an opportunity to fire
Aaron Glenn and get either Harball or Tomlin. We've seen
that a good coach can turn things around. Is this
something that you would want that they should consider? Or
do you stick with Glenn?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I would stick with Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can't imagine Mike Tomlin or John Harball would want
to coach the Jets. The Jets is a situation where
you get somebody who knows they may not get an
opportunity with other, you know, teams that Hey, I got
to take this job. John Harball and Mike Timlin don't
have to take that job. Lucas in Texas, Hey, Luke Heyny,
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Good morning, Corny.
Speaker 11 (12:44):
I love the inside baseball you'll talk about with the
production value gives me a little more sympathy for that.
CBS News a nightly news anchor that had that flow
up on his first night, that that's rough to see.
But you guys talking about nil makes me think. I
feel like this is a thing that will come up
a few years down the road. I think they've got
to sort out super conferences and the NCAA or whatnot.
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But with all this money going to players and the
transfer rules not really carrying any kind of credit requirement
of classes completed and whatnot, we fully divorced the idea
of student and athlete. They are athletes. I feel like
you're going to have a player like a Diego Pavia
who knows that their best environment is probably in college.
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I wonder if we're going to see a lawsuit to
try to classify these football players as employees of the
university and get away with for your eliibility altogether. I mean,
do you is that something that you could see happening
in the future.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I can't sit here and honestly say, oh, I don't
see that possibly happening. You know, Diego Pavia spends ten
years at Vanderbilt. Like, I have no idea anymore. Here's
something that never comes up, and it came up a
lot when I was growing up. It came up a
lot when I was in college. Players act actually got
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academically ineligible.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Like, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
They didn't qualify, they didn't do the amount of work,
they didn't get a greade point.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I mean, come on, I had PROP forty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, I haven't heard one guy, you know, academically ineligible. Wait,
when's the last time you heard somebody? Hey, why isn't
he playing academics? You don't hear that anymore. It used
to be, man, you gotta go to class, you gotta
get a two point zero. Now I haven't heard anybody,
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And you know, with all the transfer portals and semester
starting and ending and bold. See you know all of
this stuff. I had a hard time going to class
different reasons. Yeah, yeah, Pauline, Okay, this is a.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Very obvious, baby dumb question. But I heard Carson Beck
talk about the football schedule at Miami and he says
at seven am seven pm, if you're a fifth or
sixth year player in college football and you already have
your degree, do you currently have to attend a class
at the university to play for a university?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I thought Matt Liiner did that with ballroom dancing, but.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
That was a good generation to go. Like, let's say,
like Carson Beck is twenty three years old and he
would have multiple degrees if he went to school full time,
if not a master's, does he have to go to
a full time schedule? Is twelve hours four classes?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
My college football source will probably be texting me here momentarily.
We'll look into it. Yeah, yeah, don't. I don't know
how important academics are anymore, Yes, DoD I'm thinking.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
If there was anything A wouldn't have to be a
full schedule, and B it could be one of those
remote things where from your dorm you click a button
and you'd have to physically be in the lecture hall
and you can just kind of do it from you
wherever you want to be.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Man, if we would have had zoom back when I
was in school, that would have been awesome. And Man,
your senior year and you go, Man, I got an
eight o'clock journalism class, and I'm gonna it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And it wasn't awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know, not because of the teacher and the class,
but because I'm like, do I really need? Like that's
a class you do need to go to if you
want to do this for a living. All the other ones,
you know, the challenge of modern day marriage, you know,
do I need to go to that where a priest
is telling me about marriage?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I didn't go either, But it seemed like a
really good class. You know, I'm gonna learn about marriage
from a priest, might meet some girls in there.
Speaker 12 (16:38):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
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will stop by in the final hour of the program.
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Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ton's been sending me pictures of Katie Perry this morning
and no context attached to it, and then he find
finally sends me an article that Katy Perry went to
Old Miss and she was on college game Day back
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Granted it was over.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
A decade ago, but I thought, you know, I always
like to look at celebrity fans of you know, teams
that are in the final four, what have you, and
that just kind of came up as and she did
that whole you know, suck it back road.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Thing that we have a little connection with.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Katy Perry over the years if you want to reach
out to her people. Should Old win and she comes
on the show tomorrow, I'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Sounds good, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Ryan Fitzpatrick, you can find him on NFL Prime Video
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Looks like he's got some product in his hair. Probably
(18:27):
worked on his beard beard as well. Which one do
you spend more time on your hair or your beard beard?
Speaker 14 (18:35):
Quite a bit of time on the beard this morning.
Actually trimmed the edges of my mustache for you.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
Let's tell you know, I like you nice.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I did wonder about this where we put labels on players,
and I wonder about you going to Harvard if that
was there any positive that you went to Harvard or
or what negatives when you were going into the NFL.
Speaker 14 (18:58):
I think the initial negative was a funny one, which
was do you actually like football or do you have
other interests?
Speaker 12 (19:04):
Are you going to become a doctor or something?
Speaker 14 (19:07):
And that that was something I had to kind of
overcome and could overcome that one pretty early, just in
terms of passion and how much I enjoyed playing the game.
And then I think, you know, I accepted that label
because it was always, oh, he's smart. You can pick
up a playbook and we bring this guy in. I'll
pick up the playbook quickly. And when I got to Tennessee,
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which was year nine for me, Daal Loggins was the offenseiveporter,
Mike Munchek was the head coach, wasn't really into it
or feeling it, and wasn't picking up the playbook very quick.
So dal Loggins challenged me and said, dude, I thought
you were smart. I can't believe you're having a hard
time with this. And that night I sat down and
learned the whole playbook and came back the next day
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and was ready to go.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, But is there a correlation between going to an
IVY League school and being football smart?
Speaker 10 (19:58):
No?
Speaker 12 (19:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 14 (19:59):
I mean, there's they're certainly not, but I always try
to convince people that there was a correlation.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yes, Let's look at the Bears in the Packers, and
I'm wondering who has the most pressure on them going
into this game?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
If I go, Matt Lafleoor.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Ben Johnson is, you know, not facing the same pressure
that I'm sure Lafloor is, But how would you kind
of level out the pressure on either of these teams
and coaches and quarterbacks.
Speaker 14 (20:28):
Yeah, I think Laflor's got a lot more pressure on him.
Ben Johnson masterful job this year, what he's done with
this team, completely changing around in a year, what he's
done with Caleb Williams. I think it's been great, and
really just the mentality of who they are. Especially offensively,
they have an identity. They're physical, they're going to run
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it straight down your throat, They're going to do the
play action stuff. But Lafloor, I mean, they've lost four
in a row and this is a big moment for him.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
You know, Jordan Love hasn't played for two and a
half weeks.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
They just rested everybody in Week eighteen, so all their
stars are going to be fresh. Josh Jacobs hopefully will
be as fresh as he's been since that New York
game where he got injured. But Lafour's got the most
pressure on him coming in and trying.
Speaker 12 (21:13):
To win this game, and I think Jordan Love as well.
Speaker 14 (21:16):
You think about last year and that game versus the
Eagles in the playoffs. He's got a lot to prove
and he's had a great season, so I'm hoping he
comes out and has a good game.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is it crazy to say is Matt Lafleur on a
hot seat there in Green Bank?
Speaker 12 (21:33):
I think that's crazy to say.
Speaker 14 (21:35):
I think if you look at the organization and you
know them making rash decisions, I don't think that's who
they are. So I think it ratchets up even more
for next year if they don't win this game and
they have a poor showing on offense.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
But I don't think he's on the hot seat though.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I talked to Dan Orlovsky yesterday and he said he
felt like Sean McDermott might be coaching for his job
this week.
Speaker 14 (22:03):
That would also be shocking to me if that was
the case. I think if anything there, you know, maybe
they well they might lose Joe Brady, that coordinator, But
if they don't win this game, maybe they try to
freshen that up and look somewhere else. But that game
is going to be really interesting because the Bills, at
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least as of yesterday, were still favored in that game
on the road going to Jacksonville, but Jacksonville win an
eight in a row. Just kind of putting on their
tape the last few days and watching them.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
It's been Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 14 (22:38):
It's been great to watch Trevor Lawrence is really these
last eight or nine games.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But what's different Ryan, So, I think, first of.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
All, it's just the confidence.
Speaker 14 (22:47):
But they had you know, they played Seattle and the
Rams and only scored twelve points and seven points right
before their bye week, they went into the Buy. I
don't know what they did, but they came out guns
of blazing. I think the addition of Jacobe Meyer's help.
But Parker Washington has been awesome on that offense. They've
got a ton of talent. But Trevor is playing with
a ton of confidence back there, and even last week
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and the week before watching the games, watching him get pressured,
his ability to see it, to get the ball out
and throw it accurately.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
He's done a great job through the year of getting
better and better at that.
Speaker 14 (23:20):
So confidence is such a huge thing for quarterbacks, especially
quarterbacks that have been up and down, and Trevor's playing
at a really.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
High level right now, so you can learn that that's
a learned skill that you can see it, throw it,
you can see it before it happens, you know.
Speaker 14 (23:38):
I think part of it for him is being more
comfortable in the offense. I think it's also having a
coach that demands more of you. And that's a huge
thing with Trevor this year is Liam Cohen and the
demands that he has put on him. But yes, you can,
certainly that's something you can learn throughout a season and
get better and better at. And I think Liam Cohen
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we got to give him some flowers because you look
at Baker last year compared to this year and his numbers.
There's no crazy coincidence there that Liam Cohen was his
coach last year and has really done wonders with Trevor
Lawrence this year.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We heard that maybe John Harball lost the locker room.
Ian Rappaport reported that Adam Schefter came back and said
that that wasn't the case in Baltimore. But how does
a coach lose the locker room?
Speaker 12 (24:29):
I love the Schefter versus round Up.
Speaker 14 (24:31):
Yeah, the reports, the inside the reports.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
How does a coach lose the locker room?
Speaker 14 (24:39):
I think part of it, and I don't know anything
about that situation, so not speaking on that, just.
Speaker 12 (24:45):
Speaking in general.
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Part of it is, and I've seen over the years,
if you don't demand the same thing, the same commitment
to excellence out of your great players that you do out.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Of the young rookies.
Speaker 14 (24:58):
It's easy for a coach to come in and yell
at these young guys and demand a lot out of
the young guys. But when you don't do that with
the best players on your team and the stars, and
you kind of let them get away with things, I
think that's the first way where you can start to
lose the locker room and guys can start questioning your consistency.
Speaker 12 (25:15):
As a leader.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The elevation progression of Drake May it's kind of remarkable
when you consider he's probably going to finish second in MVP.
Now we have seen those quarterbacks who make that jump
in the second year, But how do you assess how
he's doing that? When they do have a running game,
it doesn't feel like they have a lot of stars
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at the wide receiver tight end positions.
Speaker 14 (25:41):
I think when quarterback, we talk about all the time infrastructure.
So Mike Vrabele gets there and what does he do.
He gets him a number one receiver and Stefon Diggs.
He goes and gets a great play caller so would
argue the best play call in the last twenty years
in the NFL, and Josh McDaniels. And then he also
bolsters the offensive line. You know, he gets Will Campbell,
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he gets Morgan Moses, he brings in brad Bury at center.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
So it's like all these things.
Speaker 14 (26:11):
The protection got better, the star player he could throw
too when it's one on one got much better, and
the offense around him.
Speaker 12 (26:18):
And the thing I love about that system, I was
in that system.
Speaker 14 (26:21):
With Bill O'Brien in my tenth year in the NFL,
and if you draw a line in my career, what
it was before year ten and after year ten and after.
I learned more in that tenth year than I've ever
learned in my career about football, the way they teach it,
the demands they put on a quarterback. So it's really
nice to see the ascension of Drake May this year.
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And the scary part is they're going to demand so
much of them. It's just going to get better and
better and better.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Okay, but what are you getting in year ten that
you didn't get in the previous nine years.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
For me, it was just the way that I looked
at the game all of a sudden, and you know,
a lot of these offenses now are going away from
demanding everything out of the quarterback the mic points, knowing
every little intricacy about the run game, why we're doing
things on specific plays, what defenses are doing, and why
what are they trying to attack you with?
Speaker 12 (27:13):
How are they trying to combat you.
Speaker 14 (27:14):
It was just a completely different way for me to
look at football and you know, and knowing that every
single thing that we did had a purpose. It was
really cool for me to be able to take that
then and use it for the rest of my career.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That give you a better understanding of Tom Brady's greatness
of how that.
Speaker 14 (27:33):
Absolutely I mean full complete control the whole time, but
just the demands that it put on him early in
his career and the greatness that we all got to
sit back and witness. He was in complete command the
whole time and really amazing when you get to kind
of see the way that it's made behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Did you feel like he was better than you? Who's
that Brady?
Speaker 12 (28:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yes, I mean No, I'm not talking about the end result.
I'm talking about when he got on the field. You
got on the field, did you get did you have
to come to that conclusion He's just better than me?
Speaker 12 (28:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (28:14):
Absolutely, But it was every game was, you know, on
a consistent, long term basis, he was always going to
be better than me. I just had to be better
than him, you know, in that moment for that specific day.
And I think we played fourteen times and I was
better than him three of fourteen times. Percentages not great,
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but there was three of them.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, And I didn't go to Harvard, so I'm not
good at the numbers. PAULI, that's probably not good percentage.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
You're asking me.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, well that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
In fact, there's nobody over here that I can add, well,
Todd went to NYU that that's not a good percent Yeah,
but that's not an IVY League school.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
Though. Hey, I'm still I'm still okay with it. Though
I realized those three victories.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Uh have fun?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, what Paul, Ryan won twenty one point four percent
of the time.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay, All right, well there you go one fifth.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Okay, but how mad was Brady in those three losses?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
To you?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
When you guys, you know, quarterbacks always say hey, great gang,
great gang, great game.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Yeah, you know, you know, it didn't it didn't go
very well. He wasn't very happy.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
He never liked losing, so he never said, hey, you know,
that's awesome, congrat I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Ryan.
Speaker 14 (29:31):
No, I don't think it ever went that way because
the last one was the last one when it was
when I was in Miami and it was his last
regular season game at Foxborough.
Speaker 12 (29:39):
So it was not very happy about that one.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well, well you're gonna be a you know, trivial pursuit question.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
Maybe I got a lot of them, though, DN I got,
you know, you through the most interceptions in this game.
You know, the only NFL quarterback to throw six touchdowns
and no picks in the game. And no touchdowns and
six picks. I'll hang on to that one forever.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know, what about a round of applause six and
oh oh and six.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 12 (30:11):
It takes a special player.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yes, it does have fun. Uh Saturday night, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 12 (30:18):
Yep, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
We're looking forward to That's Ryan Fitzpatrick Prime Video. They
will have the game on Saturday night Bears Packers. That'll
be a soldier field to kick off, seven thirty Eastern
only on Prime. I forgot all about that. Six touchdowns,
no interceptions, no touchdowns, six interceptions.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Somebody is scoring on you.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That's an awesome trivia like personal like stat to have.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh that's good stuff.
Speaker 11 (30:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
David in Phoenix, Hi, David, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Hey? Hi, Dan, I got a question for you and
the boys. Not to change the subject up too much,
but I am the three time reigning Golden Reeth Award winner.
In my neighborhood. It's otherwise known as the Griswold. With
my three peat, can I call myself a dynasty?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Congratulations David. About a round of applause for David.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Another big yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Jeff in South Carolina, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (31:27):
And first time longtime five eleven won seventy five. Earlier
in the week, you had Mike Tannenbaum on, and I
noticed he kept referred to as a baseball player, and
you said you needed to look up your Wikipedia page.
Well I did, and at the very first paragraph, very
last sentence, in the early last section, it said. The
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Cincinnati Reds wanted to sign him as a pitcher and
have him play for the Rookie League team and Billians Montana.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He opted out.
Speaker 15 (31:56):
Now, is that just something that you would see young
ham in common or is that true?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I went to a Reds tryout camp, but I ended
up playing in a they had a semi pro league
in Cincinnati that I did that after college, but not
going to Billings, Montana. But you know, I'm glad Mike
Tannebon read my bio. That's the first thing I said.
And I went to a guy I went to college
(32:23):
with at the University of Dayton. He sent me an
email right after Tanemom said it because he pitched for
the baseball team. He goes, what baseball team did you
play for? And I had to tell him. After we
went to commercial break, I said, Tony, I got to
check my Wikipedia page. The older I get, the better
I was, Oh, what have we got?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Big news? We'll get right to it.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Dolphins have fired
head coach Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Well made it to Thursday.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Dolphins owner Stephen Ross met with Mike McDaniel this week
to discuss the season. After that meeting and reflection, Ross
decided to move on.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know, let's take a break and then we'll react
to this.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
Damn he made it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's why I said yesterday he had to be watching
his phone after the Harball news.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
All right, we'll take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
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Speaker 2 (33:28):
Just got word that the Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel.
And let's go back to when John Harball was fired.
Harball's agent said that he had already been contacted by
more NFL teams than there were current openings, six openings,
seven teams reaching out, So let's take out the Ravens.
(33:50):
There were a couple of teams and maybe a playoff
team from what I'm told, that might have at least
put a bug in the ear of the agent of
John Harball if something were to happen, whether that's true
or not, or could happen. So I guess if you're
looking at the Miami Dolphins and you got Mike McDaniel.
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And I even said this when this was all taking place.
There are coaches walking around with their cell phones hoping
that a text or a phone call from up above
doesn't happen. And Mike McDaniel was one of those coaches.
Because now I don't know if John Harball is interested
or Kevin Stefanski's interested, but you're firing him on a Thursday.
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What do you know now that you didn't know on
Monday other than John Harbaugh is now available.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah. My guess is I see it going like this.
We waited.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Now we're going to stick to you right now like
we believe you, We believe in it. Let's have a meeting.
So what are you thinking for next season? While we
start with two?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Over keeping him? Okay? And you're fired?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
All right, Thank you, Mike, and luck to you in
the future.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But we're going to part ways. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
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Speaker 6 (35:16):
Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins In twenty twenty two,
nine and eight got to the wildcard, got to the
playoff appearance. Then there were eleven and six another wild card.
But they were the number one offense in football last year,
the eighteenth ranked offensive football. This year the twenty sixth
ranked offensive football.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, it just feels like that he survived. We thought, Okay,
if you make it to Wednesday, chances are you're going
to be safe.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Man. Yes, Hun, at least they got.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
It in this week. Is there's no black next Monday,
you got to get it within the sixth day.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's really ridiculously well.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
There might be who knows, whatever happens this weekend. And look,
I'm gonna go back to what Dan Orlovsky said, Man,
he's connected. And I said, you know, is Sean McDermott
coaching for his job? And he said, I hate to
answer this, but if I'm going to be honest, I
would say yes.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It feels like Sean McDermott's been coaching for his job
for the last couple of years. But they're favored in
Jacksonville against the team that's hotter than anybody right now.
But Mike McDaniel out in Miami. Is that a good job,
because that's you know, you got to look at it
and you got to be honest and you go, okay.
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Is the Raider's job a good job? No, Atlanta a
good job. We keep trying to convince ourselves that it's
a good job.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I do. I keep going, golly, they got to be better.
Is Tennessee a good job?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That one feels like if as long as I have
patience from up above, give me three years. I got
my quarter I like my quarterback. He's competitive, he wants
to be great. I got cap room. If you give
me three years, maybe I can bring this team back
to where they were with Mike brabl Is. Cleveland a
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good job, I would say, No, you don't have a quarterback.
You got front office. You got an owner who medals
great fan base, but your best asset. You should have traded.
The Giants appear to be that. That to me is
a good job. I think I think they they should
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be better than what they are. And I don't want
to take a job because historically it's a better job
than it used to be. Like Baltimore is a great
job because that's ownership, front office, and uh, they got
a roster and you know I got my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Great football town. Yes, Tom, And with all.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Parody in recent years, you can't necessarily take or not
take a job because you're worried about the competitiveness of
the division. Like if you're the joblins, oh, I got
to chase after? How am I gonna get past the
Bills and Patriots? If you're gonna be given good three
four years and one year. As we know, some teams
make the playss and they don't make the playoffs the
next year. I wonder how much they factored that and
how tough the division is that you're going to take
a coaching job.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The one thing that I thought of when we got
this news is what role did Troy Aikman play in this?
He's a consultant to help them find their next general manager.
I believe, Well, now he can help them find their
next head coach while having another job.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
By the way, that seems to be the new path
these days. Matt Ryan wants to stay at CBS.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
He's not. They're not gonna They're not gonna allow that.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
How can they not?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You mean at the NFL or CBS. CBS isn't going
to do it. Yeah, Matt.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, Matt Ryan, if you want to be the president
of the Falcons, then be the president of the I
mean no, no, be silly. You want to be hands
on and you want to have that job. You're not
traveling back and forth from New York to Atlanta, you know,
commit to the job. If I'm CBS, losing Matt Ryan
is not like losing Bill Kauer. Now he did a
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really good job there. But I would say, do your job,
don't try to do both jobs. Troy's not doing this
during the season. I mean, Tom Brady is I've had
a problem with that. But Troy, he's going to be
a consultant and this is going to be until they
find their coach and general manager. Then he's going to
go back to being a broadcaster. But Matt Ryan, I
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know that he talked about that, but I think that
they decided that, Hey, I got to be all in
on this.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Going back to the Dolphins real fast, Are they in
the same category as like the Raiders and the Jets
and the Browns as far as just inept franchises, because
they we got a longer playoff win route than a
couple of those franchises. They're up there about twenty four
to twenty five years with no playoff wins.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, they thought they found their quarterback. They made the
mistake of extending him not making him prove it. You
got the Tyreek Hill situation, like who knows. They gave
Way a couple of pieces prior to the trade deadline.
I love their running back Waddle. Is he a number one?
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I don't know what you have there. That's part of
the problem.
Speaker 15 (40:35):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
At least if you see building blocks and you go, okay,
we got that position. Our line is pretty good. Hey,
we got our quarterback. We got a number one wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Those are things that you ought that everybody has to
have good offensive line. We got our quarterback, and I
got a number one wide receiver, okay, and then you
can start to build. But these teams that we're talking about,
a lot of these teams don't have that infrastructure. So
Mike McDaniel's out and the Dolphins are in the market
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