April 28, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan goes into all the details surrounding Shedeur Sanders’ fall in the NFL Draft including the possibility of his father, Deion Sanders coaching for the Browns and the prank call Shedeur received from the son of the Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator. And football insider Kevin Clark stops by to break down the entire NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody Hour two, Gang's
all here, ready to go. Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton,
Marv Pauli, Rs Truley, the back room guys. Kevin Clark
covers the NFL NFL Draft for the Mothership This is
Football Podcast. He will join us coming up best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
(00:24):
you didn't like. Tim Legler, analyst for the Mothership, will
stop by. As we look at the Lakers with what
happened yesterday afternoon, and they are limping towards the finish line,
and is that finish line going to be a first
round exit? You're watching yesterday and I kept thinking, has
jj Reddick made a substitution in the second half?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
A friend of mine goes, Nope.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Everybody played all starting five twenty four minutes in the
second half. Now, if they won, would I have revisionist history?
I would to a certain degree because I would say, well,
he knows his team. But I got Luca who hasn't
been healthy, and I got Lebron at his age playing
(01:11):
against a really young team. It just felt like they
they needed a breather. Luca and Lebron needed a breather
at one point there, and you saw Lebron at the
end of the game. Those are plays you make when
you're tired. And Luca was not threatening, and man, Anthony
Edwards is coming at you. He's like Ronnie Lottie. Anthony
(01:36):
Edwards plays basketball the way Ronnie lot played football.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm coming and it's going to hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And you saw that yesterday that they were down thirteen
late in the third, came back, hit some big shots
and you had some non typical plays by Lebron, James
bad three, a turnover, a foul on Edwards, but they
started a chance. Austin Reeves gotta be ready, get your
(02:04):
feet ready in the corner. You know that they're going
to make Luca and Lebron give up the ball. You
had an open three. Be ready and he wasn't. Yees Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Anthony Edwards is starting to have a tradition of just
eliminating legends. Yeah, he eliminated his favorite player of all time,
Kevin Durant last year. They stopped the Nuggets last year
with Yoh, with Joker, and now Lebron possibly.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And Lebron had twenty seven and twelve, and I always
want to know when are you getting your twenty seven
or when are you getting your twelve? Because he didn't
score in the fourth quarter. That comes down to you're tired,
that's bottom line. But he have two shot attempts. That's
somebody who's tired. And he knew Luca wasn't healthy. But
(02:50):
here's JJ Reddick defending his lack of substitutions.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Let's just start with Luca got tripped. I mean that
was a blatant trip. He doesn't just fall on his own.
And we watched it. You know, he gets tripped, so
we should have met the free throw line, you know,
not that's not excuse for why we lost, but we
felt and you know, we had a chance to go up.
You work on the endgame stuff, you know, you draw
it up and do you tell guys very specific things.
(03:15):
We didn't execute it and very obvious we didn't execute it.
So I don't know what that's my only advantage point.
You know, we just didn't execute it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And Luca didn't get tripped. He stepped on the defender's
shoe and slipped. And I think he's talking about Austin
reeves being ready for that moment because that's the play
that's going to be run, and he wasn't ready for that.
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How's that possible?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I don't know, because it's always on or some variation
of Law and Order. I haven't watched what's the other one?
CSI never watch an episode of CSI New Orleans or Poughkeepsie.
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City when we had the New York City studio. I
might get to New York and watch four street hours
of Law and Order.
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I'm sure that they probably have the same sayings over Todd,
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Speaker 9 (05:16):
When I tune into the first three minutes, I'm like, oh,
the assistant principle is gonna be guilty at the end.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know what's coming up? They repeat them so often.
All right, what's pull question for hour two? Actually? What
was it for hour one? And then we'll get to
our two.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Let's see, we got a few of them there. Who
do you want to see on hard knocks this yere
Cleveland or the Browns? A lot of people not getting
that joke right now. The Browns have sixty four percent
of the vote Okay, that's great. We also have up
there who had the worst weekend, Shadure Dion or mel
Or mel Kipe right now with forty seven percent of
(05:51):
the vote. Do you want to guess that one?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Mel Kipe?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yes, melkiper junior right now running away with that one.
Dion only has twenty percent of that vote. And then
we also have another one up there. Should draft these?
This one was from Paulie. Should draft Ease be allowed
to go back to college?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Paulie sent me a note he's And then I did
some research and I reached out to somebody with the NFL,
and I said, could should or Sanders go back to
college because he had another year of eligibility? And I
was told he could. It would take a herculeing effort
to be able to go back and decide you're going
to play one more year. But you know, Quinn Ewers,
(06:32):
I guess he could have gone back and had one
more year. He was drafted in the seventh round.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Yeah, pull from what I've read that as of the
draft they cannot go back and they'd have to sue
and change policy and it would probably take so long
they wouldn't get back. But a guy like quin yours.
If his draft value was drastically less than what he thought.
What about a new rule opening up to give you
year back of eligibility.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I thought he was transferring.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I was told he was transferring because he wasn't getting
a good draft grade. And he should have transferred. He
could have made He should have gone to Miami instead
of Carson Beck, the Georgia quarterback and probably got four
or five million dollars. And he's a better quarterback.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Yeah, even though you were played well at Texas this year,
his job was not there for him next year. Yes,
there is rumors that Notre Dame was looking at him
for five plus million and other schools. He'll make seven
hundred thousand dollars this year with Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, if he makes the roster.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, Like there are a lot of decorated quarterback. Will
Howard won a national title at Ohio State, and he
was a really good quarterback at Kansas State. He goes late.
I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks drafted, but
everybody focused on Shador Sanders and I understand that because
it had to do with Dion, And are you drafting
(07:52):
Dion as well as Shadoor Let's say you're Kevin Stefanski
in Cleveland and it doesn't work out well this year,
does Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, go, Dion, do you
want to come in and coach your son? I don't
think you can rule out that scenario, because Dion has
said if he could coach his son, then that might
(08:13):
be something he does entertained down. Remember, Dion, they wanted
him to coach the Cowboys, So if you're well, some
of the media wanted him to coach the Cowboy But
I don't rule out that possibility of And I think
Shadoor Sanders will start at least one game this year.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And you know now you're starting to hear the stories
and what happened and why it happened. I still go
back to Tom Brady. Everybody told us tom Brady's now making
decisions for the Raiders, and he's known Shador Sanders a
long time.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
You have Gino Smith. Okay, maybe the next two years.
You know Shador.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Sanders as well as anybody, if not better than anybody.
You've worked him out. Dion Hiss ask you to come
in mentor him, and Tom Brady passed on him. How
many times, and it's not like that quarterback room. And
I know you just gave Geno an extension here, but
can you get a bargain? Do you want to bring
(09:18):
somebody in who you've known and he chose not to,
But how many teams really needed a quarterback? And I
think that's what it came down to, a quarterback, you know,
in the first round or second round, because after that,
like Jalen Milroe with Seattle, I love that. I think
that's great. But he's going to be able to develop.
(09:40):
And Sam Darnold's there? Who else Drew Locke is there?
So okay, you know Tyler Shuck, I told you that
teams really liked him. I didn't know he's going to
go before Shador and Jackson Dart. My source said he
had a first round grade for him, and the Giants
went back in and you know, drafted him in the
(10:02):
first round. It just wasn't a great like just because
you know, we're looking at quarterbacks, where would they have
been drafted last year when you actually had quality quarterbacks there?
And Shador is probably you know, ninth or tenth quarterback,
so maybe he would have been a third or fourth
round pick last year. But then you start to hear
(10:24):
the baggage involved in this. Cam Ward would have been
the sixth or seventh quarterback. He's the number one pick
overall Jackson Dort maybe he's the eighth quarterback. So I
think he got a It's this year compared to last year,
and they're playing the same position, and you're looking at
their grades, and that's probably why Schador slipped a little bit.
(10:44):
But maybe they didn't. He's not viewed as a starter.
But I think in Cleveland, even though Dylan Gabriel is
a I mean he's a decorated you know, two different places.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
He's a decorated quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice small, he's under six feet, but he is dynamic,
he's a playmaker, and you know, does he get an
opportunity to start a game? I mean Tommy DeVito started
a game in the end. I mean, come on, sixty
quarterbacks started games last year. I think maybe a little
more than that. Odds are he's going to get a
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chance to start a game or two.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Yeah, Paulin, you mentioned all the twenty twenty six mock
drafts that are way too early, that already dropped almost
all of them. I look through about six of them,
have arch Manning in the top five out of Texas.
He has He's thrown sixty passes in his college career.
And the other thing is everyone assumes he's going to
go out next year after one season of college football.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I doubt it, all right, So Kevin Clark will
join us talks in football. Let's see anything else? Uh,
Cam Skataboo goes to the Giants? All right, little little
East Coast football there.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And don't know if there was anything else. Oh, the
Falcon situation with the defensive coordinator. His son, let me
see get the names rise this Jeff Albrick. He admitted
that his son made a prank phone call to Shadoor
Sanders during the draft and apologize in an Instagram post
on Sunday. So, Jeff ulbricks son Jacks. I think he's
(12:23):
at Mississippi and he called him. He was impersonating the
New Orleans Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, and apparently he
told Sanders, we're going to take you with our next pick, man,
but you're going to have to wait a little longer.
Speaker 10 (12:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Sorry about that, Okay, I guess he got the phone
number from his father's Rolodex, laptop, whatever it is. Sanders
said he wasn't bothered by the prank calls. There were
a couple other players. Tyler Warren, the Colts tight end,
he received prank phone call before he was selected. There
(13:04):
were a couple of players in the sixth round who
were pranked as well. The NFL is looking into this,
and I don't know what they do to Atlanta and
Jeff Olbrick, but and they're not even sure if you know,
(13:25):
the defensive coordinator's son was involved in the other prank
phone calls as well. Yes, how serious of a problem
is that for you?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
The fact that.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You're letting like you have the information, you know, the
contact information. I mean, this should be under lock and key. Now,
you don't think your son is going to prank somebody.
But if I'm the NFL, I probably do something to
Jeff Olbrick.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't know if you find him or maybe you
take away a draft pick or but you know, you
stole a moment, you know, and that's you made it
about you and the NFL should do something in this
situation in my opinion, Yeah, Pully.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
If you guys were the father the defensive coordinator What
would the punishment be for the son?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh, I'd probably take him out of school right now.
I'd say, come on, why don't you come home?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Is this a prank phone call?
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Dad? No?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is real. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
See, there are a few things worse that you could
do to your parents than embarrass.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Them in the workplace. You know, Yeah, that's that's yeah. Right.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He compromised that kid, compromised his father's work integrity, and
humiliated him on a massive global scale. Everybody knows about
this story. Man, that's not great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And it's not like Okay, Tyler Warren, the great Penn
State tight end, Okay, that would have gotten a little
bit of covert. This was shador slipping and it felt
like you're piling on. You're making fun of him or
his situation.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yes, ton, And what's the motivation? Is that particularly funny
or clever?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Like? Obviously the father would ask the son why would
you do something like that? But what can you possibly
respond with when you're asked why would you do something
like that?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I think if you look at the video, they're having
a great old time, like.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hey, look, look how about we do this?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I got all this in from Hey, we can call
these guys, and then you just sit in your dorm
room or fried house and giggle and drink beers, and your.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Dad's the defensive corner of the falcons. Maybe we should
rethink this for a second.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh do you think that they actually.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Thought one small person in the room, It's like, yeah,
this is gonna be a bad look if somehow they
trace this call, they found out that you stole that
from your dad, who was a pro coordinator.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, but how many times you've been with your boys
and somebody says, I don't know if this is a
good idea.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It doesn't happen. It's like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't think this is right. That guy doesn't get
in your group anymore. If you have that guy like,
you don't want him.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
I thought like petty crimes, like watch me steal this
gatorade from the fridge of the you know, the Superrette.
But now on that kind of thing super yeah, one
of those little Superrette supermarkets. It's like I'm gonna steal
this beer or something like that. But this is a
totally different story. There's not cameras and a whole world
of people that are going could possibly find out about it.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
I'm gonna steal this candy bar.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Come on, this will be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Thank you, Todd?
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Happened?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think you just hijacked this the way that kid
high debt.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What could possibly be the motivation in which one would
secure someone's private full number and then use it for
the sarious purposes for some type of humor situation.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Perhaps maybe that's a.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Much higher level than just doing something silly with the guys.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh that's high brown humor?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
From a superrette stealing a Gatorade superrette?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Yes, Fritzy, you have more numbers than anybody in this
room of famous feel you do too. But has you
ever been in a situation, Todd where like you're nervous
about your numbers, are protecting them with your son, or
as friends or anybody.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I putn't code across my mind. I put codes in
fake names for people, Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, because I
do worry about that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know, When you got Taylor Swift's number in here,
I mean I just yeah, When I have Lady Gaga's
phone number in here, your listeners just go no. I
put in Freddie Mercury because Lady Gaga. She came up
with her name from a song, A clean song Radio Gaga.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh, I know, is I tweeted?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I would have drafted him.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The NFL doesn't know what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
I would have drafted him a few rounds later when
he's drafted.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
So you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Seaton has taken your Donald. Oh I know, is I
tweeted about it? I would have taken me.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He was calling people in the NFL idiots or stupid
because they weren't drafting Shador Sanders AnyWho.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
All right, we'll lower the price of the eggs.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Be patient, be ten cents an egg by June first.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Just relax, first round talent. I got him at a
bargain or of the deal.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
That's how I do.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
How about we take a break, get more phone calls.
Coming up on this Monday, Dan and The Dana's Dan
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We will give you hours. Yes, we will address the
Bill Belichick interview that he had with CBS this morning
as he has a new book out about Winning. I
didn't really care that his girlfriend got involved. From what
I'm told, she gets involved in just about everything there.
But he didn't want to acknowledge Robert Kraft. And do
(19:54):
we have that cut Marvin where he talks about Robert
Kraft or the lack of mentions of Robert Craft in
his book Look about Winning?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I have to ask about Robert Craft because twenty four
years together, six super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How comes?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, again, it's about my life lessons in football, and
it's really more about the ones that I experienced directly.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But he's not even in the acknowledgment section. Correct.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and
respect when you were let.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Go by Robert Craft? Yeah, well it was a mutual
decision that for us. The part ways.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Awkward. Awkward, but you know what, he's asking real questions there, man,
because you're not allowed to talk about his relationship and
then you don't even acknowledge Robert Kraft in the acknowledgment
part of the book there. And then he was quick
to say.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It was mutual.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's mutual that he chose to leave the New England Patriots. Okay,
let's bring in Kevin Clark, host, an analyst for Omaha Productions, ESPN,
a host of This Is Football podcast Here, what do
you think Bill Belichick was really saying there, Kevin.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
The same thing he's been saying for twenty five years. Nothing.
I think he's trying to treat CBS This Morning and
a lot of these other places like he did the
New England media, and it's not gonna work. Like that's
the problem in college. You have to go out and recruit,
you have to win over the fan base, and he
hasn't done that. I think I saw some UNCBT writers
saying like there was no access during spring, like this
is not the Patriot way anymore. So what was he
(21:36):
saying about Craft specifically is I don't think he likes
him very much, But I think that you have to
address that because you have to talk with the elephants
in the rooms at this point, when you're selling a book,
that's when you address the elephants in the room there.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, he's just such a bad interview, even when he's
trying to be I'm sure his girlfriend is saying, Bill,
let's go over scenarios, and she would play the role
of interviewer, right, and she would ask him questions. I mean,
I'm guessing like she's really involved in this, you know,
this whole North Carolina situation.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
She seems to be a bad publicist. That seems to
be my My read on the situation is that she
seems to not have a grip on what questions or inbounds. Also,
like the don't we don't talk about the relationship thing,
It's already out there. How they met. I mean, you can,
you can do this. You can give give the people
what they want, Give us a little bit that we
met an airplane and was love at first sight. The
whole thing. This is not hard. They made it hard.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, now I really want to know what they made. Like,
wait a minute, what hell's happened here?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's like when Tiger Woods and his new girlfriend send
out a picture. Yeah, and then they say, respect our
pet privacy. Yeah, I did respect your privacy, and just
now I no longer respect your privacy?
Speaker 8 (22:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
The draft in Green Bag, give me the second biggest
story of the draft?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, from a college
football perspective. You guys mentioned earlier quin you weres cost
him off about four million dollars. Okay, Like that's an
important thing. You could have gone to Miami and the
cars in deck roll. There's so many schools Oregon who
are looking for a veteran presence. So for me, that
drop was significant. But you know, when I look at
(23:14):
some of these teams that are building, like I think
Washington knocked it out of the park and I don't
see a scenario in which they're not in a Super
Bowl in the next five years. Because I look at
Josh Connery, I look at Treemos So, I think it's
a really good cornerback, the receiver they got for Jana Tech,
who's a great athlete. Like I'm looking at some of
these teams, I'm just seeing a pathway here. I think
the commander's doing everything right. They're get the stadium here today.
(23:35):
I guess that they're gonna have the new RFK site there.
So I think the second biggest thing, aside from Shredura Sanders,
is just some of these teams that are kind of
building into a Super Bowl caner. Now. I think cam
Ward is probably the second biggest thing because I think
he's a Mahomes like talent. I'm the one guy who's
going out there and saying, by the way, the number
one overall pick, he's pretty good. I know we don't
(23:57):
want to talk about the number one overall pick, but
I think he's phenomenal. I went to Miami. I saw
every snap from him. I promise people say, oh, you're
a Miami Homer. Nobody's hated watching Miami more than me
over the past twenty years. Okay, on the opposite of
a Homer, but I just saw what he was able
to do on a snap a snap basis, and he's
able to do. Steve Young was on my show a
couple of years ago and he says, h'iout Mahomes. I
think about a lot. He said. Everyone talks about the Superman,
(24:20):
but what makes Mahomes Mahomes is the Clark Kent. You know,
the basics, the hitting the guy over the middle, taking
the check down him. Ward does both of those things
really well. I think that's what's going to make him special.
I think Tennessee is not going to have the same
infrastructure that Kansas City had. So if I say he's Mahomes.
It's not gonna be the same path because there's no Kelsey,
there's no there's no Tiger Kill, there's no Andy Reid.
But I think you're gonna be the instant, instant success
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from from cam Ward. And I think he's going to
change the Titans franchise. That franchise. He's a little jewe stand.
I don't know if you've noticed. Yeah, there's nothing going
on there.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The situation with the Browns in Jacksonville with that trade, Yeah, okay,
we can take out the talent, you know, We'll start
with that and just say and by it felt by
a lot of indicators that Jacksonville did an incredible job.
But but Cleveland did an even better job of fleeshing Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I agree all show you think jackson one.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
They built, they both won. Because the Browns are looking
at this and saying, Deshaun Watson set us back probably
more than the four years on the contract. Okay, that's
that's important. They're not trying to win now. They If
they were trying to win now, they would they would
have drafted Travis Hunter and gone from there. They wouldn't
have drafted Doing Gabriel in the third round. They wouldn't
drafted Jeer Sanders in the fifth round. They understand where
they are. The Jaguars again, you talk about a franchise
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that needs some juice, needs a little you know, in market,
kicking the butt, you got to start there. What's going
on in Jacksonville? They have a new coach, they have
a new GM. For me, when you have a special talent.
The first press conference that was ever at as an
NFL journalist was Mike Shanahan right after the RG three trade,
and he asked rhetorical question. He said, what did the
Broncos give up for John l Way? Nobody? You know why?
Because nobody cared. Nobody nobody. Nobody was saying, oh they
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over they added, Oh I can't believe they added this
for another second round pick. No, they got a franchise, cornerstone.
And so with Travis Hunter, if he's the guy you
think he is, you can't there's no overpay for that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But why didn't Cleveland look at the otani of the
NFL and knowing that they needed to take away from
this Deshaun Watson's situation, and you get a you get
a makeover right away.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I agree in theory, but I think they're looking at
this roster. It's an aging roster that was built around
the Deshaun Watson thing working, okay, And I think they
have some self awareness that that's not going to be
the case anymore, that the aging roster, some of their
guys it's not ready to win now. So take the
Jaguars pick, which is probably going to be a pretty
good pick next year, and start building in a different way.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well why not? Why not trade Miles Garrett or why
extend Miles Garrett?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Would have I probably would have. I mean, I listen,
you're you're putting yourself, you're doing something very dangerous sand
which he's putting yourself in the head of the Cleveland
Browns and saying, let's make some good decisions. They haven't
done that for thirty years, okay. So it's really like
the dealing Gabriel picked to me was one of the
dumbest of the entire draft. What are you doing at
that point? And why we can get into the sure thing?
But but why you would take Gabriel who would have
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dropped a handful of more rounds. He's a career backup.
When you're looking for a starter, are you now going
to trade for Kirk Cousins, you have Joe Flacco in
the room. None of this really makes any sense. It's like,
and maybe this is just the product of ownership. Dan.
It's like there's five different decision makers in Cleveland and
they're all they all get to make alternating decisions, and
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it's like they never met before.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well you can tell if I look at body language
of coach and GM when they made when they made
the pick with Shador that came from up above, because
it almost felt like, oh my gosh, let's draft him
and then let's trade up to draft him when you
could have had him, Like I just it was Brownsie
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in I mean it was browns It was truly Brownsie
in there. But I do think it's a great place
for Sudor to go to. I agree because I think
he'll play. I think I think he'll start a game
this year.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
He's gonna be instantly better than Dan Gabriel. So that's
the first hurdle to clear. Jan Gabriel is not very good.
Kevin Stepanci can tell him where to go with the ball.
We know that your dur can be accurate. We know
he can. I mean, my thing about your dirt. I
didn't think he was top five level. But what I
did think was if you put a lot of those
prospects behind the Colorado offensive line last year, they wouldn't
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looked as good as sugar.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But if I give them the receivers that Colorado had,
you're gonna look pretty.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
At least one yes, I agree with that. You know,
when I look at the Shadar situation, I was texting
people in the league in the fourth round and in
the fifth round, and I was saying, why don't you
guys just take Shadar. I'm talking about teams with good
quarterbacks where it's not gonna be a drama, like, hey,
this this this first round talent is dropping. This seems
like value. And they said there were two problems. Number One,
they didn't do any work on the guy because they
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didn't think this was going to happen. Right, So like,
if you're a team with a a franchise starter already,
you didn't even meet Schildar, saying he only have his
phone number. I mean, apparently everybody has his phone number
because of Jack's Olbrich. But you know, you just get
into a situation where they'd be flying blind. So that
that was that was part of the problem. But then
the other problem is they just didn't want to disrupt
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their quarterback room. I don't know. I mean, there's a
lot of ways to get Schudar level production, especially in
the fifth round or in the mid rounds, without Sports
Center coming to your coming to your camp on day one.
I don't think it was. I don't think it was.
I think it starts with the most basic obvious thing,
which is there were only a handful of quarterback needy
teams and they didn't think shoulder was that good. I
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think that. I think it starts there, and then it
was a cascading series of effects. I do think that
there's a lot of cowardice in the NFL where they
just don't want distractions, and I think that is more
powerful than any sort of whatever. I don't think there
was exact collusion where they were staying away from him.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
He's Kevin Clark.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He is a host an analyst for Omaha Productions, and
he and his must listen to podcasts This is Football
and I'm starting, you know, I was just trying to
figure this out that Tom Brady, who's running the Raiders,
has been around Shador Sanders for a long time, passed
on him, passed on him, and they could certainly use
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another quarterback in there. I know you extended Geno Smith.
That was the one that stood out more than anything
because Pittsburgh to me, you know, they take Will Howard,
and I like that pick. I think Will Howard can
play in the NFL. But that really led me to
believe they really are hoping that Aaron Rodgers is coming
to town.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
He has to, he has to. I mean it sounds like,
you know, Art Rooney, the owner, a couple of weeks
ago in Palm Beach at the owner's meeting, said that
that's the expectation there. I don't think Steelers ownership really
talks out of turn, so I assume that there's indications
that he's coming. They're screwed without him, because I last
week I heard some of the insiders say, well, you know,
they're really comfortable with Mason Rudolf. Nobody is comfortable with
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Mason Rudolf. So I knew that that was a tell
that a Rogers is probably coming.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
How honest, Len, you know, somebody's being honest with you.
You know, you talk a lot of coach and g Anderson, whoever,
like I have. I have three different sources in the NFL,
and I've had them for probably twenty of twenty two,
twenty three years. But you know, I'm fed a lot
of information sometimes and you know I've been used before in.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
The draft season. It's really hard because remember, a scout
might tell you this is the best guy in the draft,
but he might have the power to do it, or
you know, somebody from the bri I'm just giving an example. Right,
we're talking about ownership coming from above and saying you
have to take shitter singers. If that was a scenario,
well five minutes before that, you could have gotten a
text from someone with asition making power in Cleveland saying nah,
we're not gonna do it, and then the owner does it. Right,
(31:45):
So predicting what's gapping in the draft is a fool's er.
It's really hard because of just the different things. And
no one thought your dur was happening, by the way,
like everybody's talking about oh, people need to saying, oh
I saw was coming with your DIR. You did unless
you said it was the biggest drop in history incoming,
then you didn't see a coming like you're saying, oh,
he might drop to the second round. We didn't drop
the second und. He dropped the fifth round. So you
didn't see a coming predicting what's actually gonna happen on
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draft night outside of the first pick. You know, I
had Brian Callahan, the Titans coach, on my show a
couple of weeks ago, and he started talking and he said,
you know, I coached Joe Burrow when he was a rookie.
And I went back and I watched the zooms that
we had because it was COVID, so they recorded it
just to get a sense of what a rookie quarterback
would be like. And so this is like March fifteenth,
and I'm thinking, you know, Brian, you're probably not doing
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that if you're gonna draft ab Dual Carter or Travis Hunter.
So I think you may have indicated where you're going.
So there's tells like that obviously, but I think, you know,
you kind of have to dis guess. I mean, you
mentioned you have sources where you have years and years
of good will built up. You know they're not going
to be su you know that they're not gonna use you.
I think newer sources or sources with something, hey, you know,
(32:51):
The biggest thing always is when a team is trying
to get rid of either a player or a coach
and they're gonna for I think it's Larry David thet
they're going to foist you, and they're trying to like,
so I had I won't say the coach, but I
had a GM text me a couple of years ago
about their defensive coordinator and he said this DC would
(33:12):
be amazing for the USC job. And I was like, no, we'
what are you talking about? And then a couple a
couple of months later that the DC moved on. But
it's like, I think they wanted me to put out
so and so would be a perfect fit for USC,
and then USC calls them and then their problem is solved.
And whether they had a multi year contract or they
just wanted to clean ending, whatever it is, that's when
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you look at it and you go you have to
have internal You have to be your own harshest critic,
or else you end up sending a tweet saying so
and so would be a great fit to be a Trojan.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
All right, give me the hot NFL team this year.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I love Denver. I love Denver, and I know, wait, That's.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's two loves, like you love love Denver.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
I think Denver when I look around, I think about
the Eagles and how one day we woke up and
they had the best roster in football and they were
undeniable and probably the Super Bowl favorites next year. Right,
it's because you kept stacking talent. When I look at Denver,
I think in maybe next year we're gonna they're gonna
be close to that level. I think this year they're
going to be a double digit win team that I
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think probably will get Super Bowl buzz going into the season,
and they're probably a year away from that. But I
love what Bonex is able to do with Sean Payton.
I don't know what he would have been able to
do behind Colorado's offensive line, but that's not the question here.
And then I think that the way they built the
trenches again, Eagles wise, the offensive line is great, the
defense keeps stacking talent. Baron was an awesome pick in
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the first round. RJ. Harvey was a reach for UCF,
but again, Sean Payton knows what to do with running backs.
He loves contact, yes speed. So I'm looking this Denver
team and I'm saying, why can't this team compete right now? Now?
To answer my own question, the Chargers are also going
to be quite good. I love their draft and I
love Justin Herbert. I think Denver, though, is a half
step ahead right now in that division with obviously the
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chief speing number one. I think all three of them
have the chance to be really good this year.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But Vegas is hot team. The Chicago Bears. More money
bet on the Bears in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So I see that. I think that they answered so
many of that. So Killer Williams last year had the
most unblocked pressures and sacks in the history of next
Gen's deaths. So that's like a decade of data. Is
that no one had gotten a guy in their face
where literally the offensive line had no idea what they
were doing. And I look at him at it as
(35:33):
maybe the dumbest plan in history, because or modern football history.
Kler Williams had one flaw. He held onto the ball
to law. So what do you do if you're the Bears.
You give him one of the worst offensive lines in football?
How was that going to work? How is that ever
going to work? It didn't, It didn't. He got killed
and then was sixty four sacks last year, and so
they aut they go out and they probably overpaid for
(35:56):
some guys, but that's okay. Again, over we don't We're
not costplaying gms here. We just need this to work. Right.
If we're the Bears, and so the front is settled,
the defense is gonna be better. I liked what they did.
I thought Luther Burden was a really good value pick
in round two addressing tight end. Maybe you go to
tight ends with Cole Comet. I see that. I just
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don't think they're an NFC contender. Okay, I see them
being much better. I see Klebilliams not getting sack sixty
four times. I think they'll probably make the playoffs. I
just don't see them in the same way I had
the Broncos to, which is I think in a couple
of years, the Broncos are gonna be Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Thanks for visiting. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
I met you when I was thirteen years old at
the Tampa Super Bowl. It's great to be here again.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Was that nice to you?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
You were very nice. You're gonna lose respect for me.
I was such a sports media dork that I was
at a hotel. I figured it out that somehow you
guys were all there. So I just hung out at
the elevator bank meeting Sports Center anchors, and I got
everybody's autograph, and the only one I can identify now
is Eisen because he signed it with his catchphrase, which
was you got it. So it says rich Eyes and
(36:59):
Kevin you got it?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, So there you go.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
So thank you for being nice.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Do you want an autograph now?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Okay, thank you Kevin.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
The podcast is called This Is Football Podcast, host of
Omaha Productions and the Mothership. We'll take a break. We
will give you our best and worst to the weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
Let me get to Gus in la best and worst
of the weekend. Good morning, Gus, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you and the boys had
a good weekend. Well you know, I mean, it's nothing
like sitting there slowly realizing that your team is going
to be the first round up set of the NBA playoffs.
That was fun and nice to watch. What was what
was funny is that I'm like sitting down, I'm like, man,
(37:58):
this sucks and everything. And then I got to see
the highlights of that Bill Belichick interview and yeah, I'm
like more with you. It was more the rubber Kraft.
It was like the awkwardness of that, like it's like
no because he fired you, you know, we agreed to
step away usually and then like that was the best worst. Yes,
(38:18):
the Lakers, thank you to that. But just a little
off topic here, what do you boyd make of these
incoming rookies requesting to wear the numbers of retired Hall
of famers. We see cam Ward get the Warren Moon number,
and just yesterday Laurence Taylor said no to Abdul Carter
who requested to wear fifty six. Is this, like, you know,
(38:40):
is it an homage to the legends or is it
idiotic to think that, you know, the legend's gonna let
you wear his numbers?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Okay, but and thank you guys. Cam Ward war number
one in college, didn't he so he wanted to wear
that number with Tennessee and Warren Moon, who was that
played for the Houston Oilers wore number one. He saw
Hall of Fame quarterback and he you know, signed off
and said yes. Now, Abdul Carter, who wore eleven at
(39:09):
Penn State, all of a sudden goes, I'd like to
wear number fifty six, and of course that's Lawrence Taylor,
and Lawrence Taylor goes, no, get your own number.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yes, Marv can Abdul Carter even wear eleven in New York.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Phil Simms, I don't think they retired it. Not a
Hall of Famer, but you know, a giant legend. You
don't pick another number. Yeah, don't don't go in there.
You don't want more questions. You don't want all this
guys a diva like, just go in your rookie, go
(39:47):
in and blend in.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Yes, yeah, Lawrence Taylor said to the New York Post,
get your own number and make it famous. Yes, I agree.
You're like, you don't want to use someone else's number.
You don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I unders Stan cam Ward saying can I wear number one?
And he reaches out to Warren Moon, or Warren Moon
reaches out to him. He goes to the press conference. Great,
it's a feel good moment and Tennessee could use a
few of those, yes, Seeton.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
I kind of like the idea though, of being given
the number and then it's like an honor. I understand,
wanting to make a number your own and then be like, ah,
now forever, I'm gonna be the guy who made nine famous,
you know, But there's also something about all of the
people who wore nine before you, and then now you're
the next in line of that, like it's an honor
rather than Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But Lawrence Taylor, that jersey is retired, He's maybe the
greatest defensive player of all time.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Eleven's been retired. That Phil Simms's number. I don't know.
I would just try to go in quietly, yes, Martin, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
To see his point, it sounds like the Cowboys. I
kind of like what the Cowboys do with number eighty eight,
like Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin, Desbryant, Ceedee Lamb, Like, you
know what, if we think you're going to be a
great receiver for the Cowboys, here's number eighty eight.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Ah, Yes, but if it's retired, why would you want
that pressure of that target on your back where you're
going to constantly be compared This guy's got a lot
of nerve picking a number of one of the greatest
of all time type, be able to live up to that,
even if you think you're honoring somebody.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Thank you, Todd. We'll talk some NBA.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Tim Legler will join us well, So play a couple
of clips from the Bill Belichick interview on CBS this morning,
including the one where it was girl interrupted, girlfriend interrupted.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody Hour two, Gang's
all here, ready to go. Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton,
Marv Pauli, Rs Truley, the back room guys. Kevin Clark
covers the NFL NFL Draft for the Mothership This is
Football Podcast. He will join us coming up best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
(00:24):
you didn't like. Tim Legler, analyst for the Mothership, will
stop by. As we look at the Lakers with what
happened yesterday afternoon, and they are limping towards the finish line,
and is that finish line going to be a first
round exit? You're watching yesterday and I kept thinking, has
jj Reddick made a substitution in the second half?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
A friend of mine goes, Nope.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Everybody played all starting five twenty four minutes in the
second half. Now, if they won, would I have revisionist history?
I would to a certain degree because I would say, well,
he knows his team. But I got Luca who hasn't
been healthy, and I got Lebron at his age playing
(01:11):
against a really young team. It just felt like they
they needed a breather. Luca and Lebron needed a breather
at one point there, and you saw Lebron at the
end of the game. Those are plays you make when
you're tired. And Luca was not threatening, and man, Anthony
Edwards is coming at you. He's like Ronnie Lottie. Anthony
(01:36):
Edwards plays basketball the way Ronnie lot played football.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm coming and it's going to hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And you saw that yesterday that they were down thirteen
late in the third, came back, hit some big shots
and you had some non typical plays by Lebron, James
bad three, a turnover, a foul on Edwards, but they
started a chance. Austin Reeves gotta be ready, get your
(02:04):
feet ready in the corner. You know that they're going
to make Luca and Lebron give up the ball. You
had an open three. Be ready and he wasn't. Yees Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Anthony Edwards is starting to have a tradition of just
eliminating legends. Yeah, he eliminated his favorite player of all time,
Kevin Durant last year. They stopped the Nuggets last year
with Yoh, with Joker, and now Lebron possibly.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And Lebron had twenty seven and twelve, and I always
want to know when are you getting your twenty seven
or when are you getting your twelve? Because he didn't
score in the fourth quarter. That comes down to you're tired,
that's bottom line. But he have two shot attempts. That's
somebody who's tired. And he knew Luca wasn't healthy. But
(02:50):
here's JJ Reddick defending his lack of substitutions.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Let's just start with Luca got tripped. I mean that
was a blatant trip. He doesn't just fall on his own.
And we watched it. You know, he gets tripped, so
we should have met the free throw line, you know,
not that's not excuse for why we lost, but we
felt and you know, we had a chance to go up.
You work on the endgame stuff, you know, you draw
it up and do you tell guys very specific things.
(03:15):
We didn't execute it and very obvious we didn't execute it.
So I don't know what that's my only advantage point.
You know, we just didn't execute it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And Luca didn't get tripped. He stepped on the defender's
shoe and slipped. And I think he's talking about Austin
reeves being ready for that moment because that's the play
that's going to be run, and he wasn't ready for that.
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Speaker 3 (04:15):
How's that possible?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I don't know, because it's always on or some variation
of Law and Order. I haven't watched what's the other one?
CSI never watch an episode of CSI New Orleans or Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, there are times that we've been on the road
doing the show, say like we'd get to New York
City when we had the New York City studio. I
might get to New York and watch four street hours
of Law and Order.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just like, when they get in the courtroom, and
I'm sure that they probably have the same sayings over Todd,
could you give me rundown what happens with law and
Order once they get into the court.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Watch a counselor you're treading on dan Ice here in
my chambers.
Speaker 8 (04:57):
Now get to the point, counselor.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Anything else, just you know, sustained overrull, badgery and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But I love, is there a question here?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
How is that relevance you're on? Irrelevance? I'm gonna I'm
getting get to it now, counselor.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, Paul, I'm at the point with Law and Order.
Speaker 9 (05:16):
When I tune into the first three minutes, I'm like, oh,
the assistant principle is gonna be guilty at the end.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know what's coming up? They repeat them so often.
All right, what's pull question for hour two? Actually? What
was it for hour one? And then we'll get to
our two.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Let's see, we got a few of them there. Who
do you want to see on hard knocks this yere
Cleveland or the Browns? A lot of people not getting
that joke right now. The Browns have sixty four percent
of the vote Okay, that's great. We also have up
there who had the worst weekend, Shadure Dion or mel
Or mel Kipe right now with forty seven percent of
(05:51):
the vote. Do you want to guess that one?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Mel Kipe?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yes, melkiper junior right now running away with that one.
Dion only has twenty percent of that vote. And then
we also have another one up there. Should draft these?
This one was from Paulie. Should draft Ease be allowed
to go back to college?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Paulie sent me a note he's And then I did
some research and I reached out to somebody with the NFL,
and I said, could should or Sanders go back to
college because he had another year of eligibility? And I
was told he could. It would take a herculeing effort
to be able to go back and decide you're going
to play one more year. But you know, Quinn Ewers,
(06:32):
I guess he could have gone back and had one
more year. He was drafted in the seventh round.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
Yeah, pull from what I've read that as of the
draft they cannot go back and they'd have to sue
and change policy and it would probably take so long
they wouldn't get back. But a guy like quin yours.
If his draft value was drastically less than what he thought.
What about a new rule opening up to give you
year back of eligibility.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I thought he was transferring.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I was told he was transferring because he wasn't getting
a good draft grade. And he should have transferred. He
could have made He should have gone to Miami instead
of Carson Beck, the Georgia quarterback and probably got four
or five million dollars. And he's a better quarterback.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Yeah, even though you were played well at Texas this year,
his job was not there for him next year. Yes,
there is rumors that Notre Dame was looking at him
for five plus million and other schools. He'll make seven
hundred thousand dollars this year with Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, if he makes the roster.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, Like there are a lot of decorated quarterback. Will
Howard won a national title at Ohio State, and he
was a really good quarterback at Kansas State. He goes late.
I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks drafted, but
everybody focused on Shador Sanders and I understand that because
it had to do with Dion, And are you drafting
(07:52):
Dion as well as Shadoor Let's say you're Kevin Stefanski
in Cleveland and it doesn't work out well this year,
does Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, go, Dion, do you
want to come in and coach your son? I don't
think you can rule out that scenario, because Dion has
said if he could coach his son, then that might
(08:13):
be something he does entertained down. Remember, Dion, they wanted
him to coach the Cowboys, So if you're well, some
of the media wanted him to coach the Cowboy But
I don't rule out that possibility of And I think
Shadoor Sanders will start at least one game this year.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And you know now you're starting to hear the stories
and what happened and why it happened. I still go
back to Tom Brady. Everybody told us tom Brady's now making
decisions for the Raiders, and he's known Shador Sanders a
long time.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
You have Gino Smith. Okay, maybe the next two years.
You know Shador.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Sanders as well as anybody, if not better than anybody.
You've worked him out. Dion Hiss ask you to come
in mentor him, and Tom Brady passed on him. How
many times, and it's not like that quarterback room. And
I know you just gave Geno an extension here, but
can you get a bargain? Do you want to bring
(09:18):
somebody in who you've known and he chose not to,
But how many teams really needed a quarterback? And I
think that's what it came down to, a quarterback, you know,
in the first round or second round, because after that,
like Jalen Milroe with Seattle, I love that. I think
that's great. But he's going to be able to develop.
(09:40):
And Sam Darnold's there? Who else Drew Locke is there?
So okay, you know Tyler Shuck, I told you that
teams really liked him. I didn't know he's going to
go before Shador and Jackson Dart. My source said he
had a first round grade for him, and the Giants
went back in and you know, drafted him in the
(10:02):
first round. It just wasn't a great like just because
you know, we're looking at quarterbacks, where would they have
been drafted last year when you actually had quality quarterbacks there?
And Shador is probably you know, ninth or tenth quarterback,
so maybe he would have been a third or fourth
round pick last year. But then you start to hear
(10:24):
the baggage involved in this. Cam Ward would have been
the sixth or seventh quarterback. He's the number one pick
overall Jackson Dort maybe he's the eighth quarterback. So I
think he got a It's this year compared to last year,
and they're playing the same position, and you're looking at
their grades, and that's probably why Schador slipped a little bit.
(10:44):
But maybe they didn't. He's not viewed as a starter.
But I think in Cleveland, even though Dylan Gabriel is
a I mean he's a decorated you know, two different places.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
He's a decorated quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice small, he's under six feet, but he is dynamic,
he's a playmaker, and you know, does he get an
opportunity to start a game? I mean Tommy DeVito started
a game in the end. I mean, come on, sixty
quarterbacks started games last year. I think maybe a little
more than that. Odds are he's going to get a
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chance to start a game or two.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Yeah, Paulin, you mentioned all the twenty twenty six mock
drafts that are way too early, that already dropped almost
all of them. I look through about six of them,
have arch Manning in the top five out of Texas.
He has He's thrown sixty passes in his college career.
And the other thing is everyone assumes he's going to
go out next year after one season of college football.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I doubt it, all right, So Kevin Clark will
join us talks in football. Let's see anything else? Uh,
Cam Skataboo goes to the Giants? All right, little little
East Coast football there.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And don't know if there was anything else. Oh, the
Falcon situation with the defensive coordinator. His son, let me
see get the names rise this Jeff Albrick. He admitted
that his son made a prank phone call to Shadoor
Sanders during the draft and apologize in an Instagram post
on Sunday. So, Jeff ulbricks son Jacks. I think he's
(12:23):
at Mississippi and he called him. He was impersonating the
New Orleans Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, and apparently he
told Sanders, we're going to take you with our next pick, man,
but you're going to have to wait a little longer.
Speaker 10 (12:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Sorry about that, Okay, I guess he got the phone
number from his father's Rolodex, laptop, whatever it is. Sanders
said he wasn't bothered by the prank calls. There were
a couple other players. Tyler Warren, the Colts tight end,
he received prank phone call before he was selected. There
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were a couple of players in the sixth round who
were pranked as well. The NFL is looking into this,
and I don't know what they do to Atlanta and
Jeff Olbrick, but and they're not even sure if you know,
(13:25):
the defensive coordinator's son was involved in the other prank
phone calls as well. Yes, how serious of a problem
is that for you?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
The fact that.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You're letting like you have the information, you know, the
contact information. I mean, this should be under lock and key. Now,
you don't think your son is going to prank somebody.
But if I'm the NFL, I probably do something to
Jeff Olbrick.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't know if you find him or maybe you
take away a draft pick or but you know, you
stole a moment, you know, and that's you made it
about you and the NFL should do something in this
situation in my opinion, Yeah, Pully.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
If you guys were the father the defensive coordinator What
would the punishment be for the son?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh, I'd probably take him out of school right now.
I'd say, come on, why don't you come home?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Is this a prank phone call?
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Dad? No?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is real. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
See, there are a few things worse that you could
do to your parents than embarrass.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Them in the workplace. You know, Yeah, that's that's yeah. Right.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He compromised that kid, compromised his father's work integrity, and
humiliated him on a massive global scale. Everybody knows about
this story. Man, that's not great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And it's not like Okay, Tyler Warren, the great Penn
State tight end, Okay, that would have gotten a little
bit of covert. This was shador slipping and it felt
like you're piling on. You're making fun of him or
his situation.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yes, ton, And what's the motivation? Is that particularly funny
or clever?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Like? Obviously the father would ask the son why would
you do something like that? But what can you possibly
respond with when you're asked why would you do something
like that?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I think if you look at the video, they're having
a great old time, like.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hey, look, look how about we do this?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I got all this in from Hey, we can call
these guys, and then you just sit in your dorm
room or fried house and giggle and drink beers, and your.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Dad's the defensive corner of the falcons. Maybe we should
rethink this for a second.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh do you think that they actually.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Thought one small person in the room, It's like, yeah,
this is gonna be a bad look if somehow they
trace this call, they found out that you stole that
from your dad, who was a pro coordinator.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, but how many times you've been with your boys
and somebody says, I don't know if this is a
good idea.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It doesn't happen. It's like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't think this is right. That guy doesn't get
in your group anymore. If you have that guy like,
you don't want him.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
I thought like petty crimes, like watch me steal this
gatorade from the fridge of the you know, the Superrette.
But now on that kind of thing super yeah, one
of those little Superrette supermarkets. It's like I'm gonna steal
this beer or something like that. But this is a
totally different story. There's not cameras and a whole world
of people that are going could possibly find out about it.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
I'm gonna steal this candy bar.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Come on, this will be cool.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Thank you, Todd?
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Happened?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think you just hijacked this the way that kid
high debt.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What could possibly be the motivation in which one would
secure someone's private full number and then use it for
the sarious purposes for some type of humor situation.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Perhaps maybe that's a.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Much higher level than just doing something silly with the guys.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh that's high brown humor?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
From a superrette stealing a Gatorade superrette?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Yes, Fritzy, you have more numbers than anybody in this
room of famous feel you do too. But has you
ever been in a situation, Todd where like you're nervous
about your numbers, are protecting them with your son, or
as friends or anybody.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I putn't code across my mind. I put codes in
fake names for people, Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, because I
do worry about that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know, When you got Taylor Swift's number in here,
I mean I just yeah, When I have Lady Gaga's
phone number in here, your listeners just go no. I
put in Freddie Mercury because Lady Gaga. She came up
with her name from a song, A clean song Radio Gaga.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh, I know, is I tweeted?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I would have drafted him.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The NFL doesn't know what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
I would have drafted him a few rounds later when
he's drafted.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
So you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Seaton has taken your Donald. Oh I know, is I
tweeted about it? I would have taken me.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He was calling people in the NFL idiots or stupid
because they weren't drafting Shador Sanders AnyWho.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
All right, we'll lower the price of the eggs.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Be patient, be ten cents an egg by June first.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Just relax, first round talent. I got him at a
bargain or of the deal.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
That's how I do.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
How about we take a break, get more phone calls.
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Speaker 2 (19:31):
More phone calls coming up, best and worst of the weekend.
We will give you hours. Yes, we will address the
Bill Belichick interview that he had with CBS this morning
as he has a new book out about Winning. I
didn't really care that his girlfriend got involved. From what
I'm told, she gets involved in just about everything there.
But he didn't want to acknowledge Robert Kraft. And do
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we have that cut Marvin where he talks about Robert
Kraft or the lack of mentions of Robert Craft in
his book Look about Winning?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I have to ask about Robert Craft because twenty four
years together, six super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How comes?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, again, it's about my life lessons in football, and
it's really more about the ones that I experienced directly.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But he's not even in the acknowledgment section. Correct.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and
respect when you were let.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Go by Robert Craft? Yeah, well it was a mutual
decision that for us. The part ways.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Awkward. Awkward, but you know what, he's asking real questions there, man,
because you're not allowed to talk about his relationship and
then you don't even acknowledge Robert Kraft in the acknowledgment
part of the book there. And then he was quick
to say.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It was mutual.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's mutual that he chose to leave the New England Patriots. Okay,
let's bring in Kevin Clark, host, an analyst for Omaha Productions, ESPN,
a host of This Is Football podcast Here, what do
you think Bill Belichick was really saying there, Kevin.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
The same thing he's been saying for twenty five years. Nothing.
I think he's trying to treat CBS This Morning and
a lot of these other places like he did the
New England media, and it's not gonna work. Like that's
the problem in college. You have to go out and recruit,
you have to win over the fan base, and he
hasn't done that. I think I saw some UNCBT writers
saying like there was no access during spring, like this
is not the Patriot way anymore. So what was he
(21:36):
saying about Craft specifically is I don't think he likes
him very much, But I think that you have to
address that because you have to talk with the elephants
in the rooms at this point, when you're selling a book,
that's when you address the elephants in the room there.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, he's just such a bad interview, even when he's
trying to be I'm sure his girlfriend is saying, Bill,
let's go over scenarios, and she would play the role
of interviewer, right, and she would ask him questions. I mean,
I'm guessing like she's really involved in this, you know,
this whole North Carolina situation.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
She seems to be a bad publicist. That seems to
be my My read on the situation is that she
seems to not have a grip on what questions or inbounds. Also,
like the don't we don't talk about the relationship thing,
It's already out there. How they met. I mean, you can,
you can do this. You can give give the people
what they want, Give us a little bit that we
met an airplane and was love at first sight. The
whole thing. This is not hard. They made it hard.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, now I really want to know what they made. Like,
wait a minute, what hell's happened here?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's like when Tiger Woods and his new girlfriend send
out a picture. Yeah, and then they say, respect our
pet privacy. Yeah, I did respect your privacy, and just
now I no longer respect your privacy?
Speaker 8 (22:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
The draft in Green Bag, give me the second biggest
story of the draft?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, from a college
football perspective. You guys mentioned earlier quin you weres cost
him off about four million dollars. Okay, Like that's an
important thing. You could have gone to Miami and the
cars in deck roll. There's so many schools Oregon who
are looking for a veteran presence. So for me, that
drop was significant. But you know, when I look at
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some of these teams that are building, like I think
Washington knocked it out of the park and I don't
see a scenario in which they're not in a Super
Bowl in the next five years. Because I look at
Josh Connery, I look at Treemos So, I think it's
a really good cornerback, the receiver they got for Jana Tech,
who's a great athlete. Like I'm looking at some of
these teams, I'm just seeing a pathway here. I think
the commander's doing everything right. They're get the stadium here today.
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I guess that they're gonna have the new RFK site there.
So I think the second biggest thing, aside from Shredura Sanders,
is just some of these teams that are kind of
building into a Super Bowl caner. Now. I think cam
Ward is probably the second biggest thing because I think
he's a Mahomes like talent. I'm the one guy who's
going out there and saying, by the way, the number
one overall pick, he's pretty good. I know we don't
(23:57):
want to talk about the number one overall pick, but
I think he's phenomenal. I went to Miami. I saw
every snap from him. I promise people say, oh, you're
a Miami Homer. Nobody's hated watching Miami more than me
over the past twenty years. Okay, on the opposite of
a Homer, but I just saw what he was able
to do on a snap a snap basis, and he's
able to do. Steve Young was on my show a
couple of years ago and he says, h'iout Mahomes. I
think about a lot. He said. Everyone talks about the Superman,
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but what makes Mahomes Mahomes is the Clark Kent. You know,
the basics, the hitting the guy over the middle, taking
the check down him. Ward does both of those things
really well. I think that's what's going to make him special.
I think Tennessee is not going to have the same
infrastructure that Kansas City had. So if I say he's Mahomes.
It's not gonna be the same path because there's no Kelsey,
there's no there's no Tiger Kill, there's no Andy Reid.
But I think you're gonna be the instant, instant success
(24:44):
from from cam Ward. And I think he's going to
change the Titans franchise. That franchise. He's a little jewe stand.
I don't know if you've noticed. Yeah, there's nothing going
on there.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The situation with the Browns in Jacksonville with that trade, Yeah, okay,
we can take out the talent, you know, We'll start
with that and just say and by it felt by
a lot of indicators that Jacksonville did an incredible job.
But but Cleveland did an even better job of fleeshing Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I agree all show you think jackson one.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
They built, they both won. Because the Browns are looking
at this and saying, Deshaun Watson set us back probably
more than the four years on the contract. Okay, that's
that's important. They're not trying to win now. They If
they were trying to win now, they would they would
have drafted Travis Hunter and gone from there. They wouldn't
have drafted Doing Gabriel in the third round. They wouldn't
drafted Jeer Sanders in the fifth round. They understand where
they are. The Jaguars again, you talk about a franchise
(25:40):
that needs some juice, needs a little you know, in market,
kicking the butt, you got to start there. What's going
on in Jacksonville? They have a new coach, they have
a new GM. For me, when you have a special talent.
The first press conference that was ever at as an
NFL journalist was Mike Shanahan right after the RG three trade,
and he asked rhetorical question. He said, what did the
Broncos give up for John l Way? Nobody? You know why?
Because nobody cared. Nobody nobody. Nobody was saying, oh they
(26:03):
over they added, Oh I can't believe they added this
for another second round pick. No, they got a franchise, cornerstone.
And so with Travis Hunter, if he's the guy you
think he is, you can't there's no overpay for that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But why didn't Cleveland look at the otani of the
NFL and knowing that they needed to take away from
this Deshaun Watson's situation, and you get a you get
a makeover right away.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I agree in theory, but I think they're looking at
this roster. It's an aging roster that was built around
the Deshaun Watson thing working, okay, And I think they
have some self awareness that that's not going to be
the case anymore, that the aging roster, some of their
guys it's not ready to win now. So take the
Jaguars pick, which is probably going to be a pretty
good pick next year, and start building in a different way.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well why not? Why not trade Miles Garrett or why
extend Miles Garrett?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Would have I probably would have. I mean, I listen,
you're you're putting yourself, you're doing something very dangerous sand
which he's putting yourself in the head of the Cleveland
Browns and saying, let's make some good decisions. They haven't
done that for thirty years, okay. So it's really like
the dealing Gabriel picked to me was one of the
dumbest of the entire draft. What are you doing at
that point? And why we can get into the sure thing?
But but why you would take Gabriel who would have
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dropped a handful of more rounds. He's a career backup.
When you're looking for a starter, are you now going
to trade for Kirk Cousins, you have Joe Flacco in
the room. None of this really makes any sense. It's like,
and maybe this is just the product of ownership. Dan.
It's like there's five different decision makers in Cleveland and
they're all they all get to make alternating decisions, and
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it's like they never met before.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well you can tell if I look at body language
of coach and GM when they made when they made
the pick with Shador that came from up above, because
it almost felt like, oh my gosh, let's draft him
and then let's trade up to draft him when you
could have had him, Like I just it was Brownsie
(28:00):
in I mean it was browns It was truly Brownsie
in there. But I do think it's a great place
for Sudor to go to. I agree because I think
he'll play. I think I think he'll start a game
this year.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
He's gonna be instantly better than Dan Gabriel. So that's
the first hurdle to clear. Jan Gabriel is not very good.
Kevin Stepanci can tell him where to go with the ball.
We know that your dur can be accurate. We know
he can. I mean, my thing about your dirt. I
didn't think he was top five level. But what I
did think was if you put a lot of those
prospects behind the Colorado offensive line last year, they wouldn't
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looked as good as sugar.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But if I give them the receivers that Colorado had,
you're gonna look pretty.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
At least one yes, I agree with that. You know,
when I look at the Shadar situation, I was texting
people in the league in the fourth round and in
the fifth round, and I was saying, why don't you
guys just take Shadar. I'm talking about teams with good
quarterbacks where it's not gonna be a drama, like, hey,
this this this first round talent is dropping. This seems
like value. And they said there were two problems. Number One,
they didn't do any work on the guy because they
(28:57):
didn't think this was going to happen. Right, So like,
if you're a team with a a franchise starter already,
you didn't even meet Schildar, saying he only have his
phone number. I mean, apparently everybody has his phone number
because of Jack's Olbrich. But you know, you just get
into a situation where they'd be flying blind. So that
that was that was part of the problem. But then
the other problem is they just didn't want to disrupt
(29:18):
their quarterback room. I don't know. I mean, there's a
lot of ways to get Schudar level production, especially in
the fifth round or in the mid rounds, without Sports
Center coming to your coming to your camp on day one.
I don't think it was. I don't think it was.
I think it starts with the most basic obvious thing,
which is there were only a handful of quarterback needy
teams and they didn't think shoulder was that good. I
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think that. I think it starts there, and then it
was a cascading series of effects. I do think that
there's a lot of cowardice in the NFL where they
just don't want distractions, and I think that is more
powerful than any sort of whatever. I don't think there
was exact collusion where they were staying away from him.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
He's Kevin Clark.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He is a host an analyst for Omaha Productions, and
he and his must listen to podcasts This is Football
and I'm starting, you know, I was just trying to
figure this out that Tom Brady, who's running the Raiders,
has been around Shador Sanders for a long time, passed
on him, passed on him, and they could certainly use
(30:16):
another quarterback in there. I know you extended Geno Smith.
That was the one that stood out more than anything
because Pittsburgh to me, you know, they take Will Howard,
and I like that pick. I think Will Howard can
play in the NFL. But that really led me to
believe they really are hoping that Aaron Rodgers is coming
to town.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
He has to, he has to. I mean it sounds like,
you know, Art Rooney, the owner, a couple of weeks
ago in Palm Beach at the owner's meeting, said that
that's the expectation there. I don't think Steelers ownership really
talks out of turn, so I assume that there's indications
that he's coming. They're screwed without him, because I last
week I heard some of the insiders say, well, you know,
they're really comfortable with Mason Rudolf. Nobody is comfortable with
(30:56):
Mason Rudolf. So I knew that that was a tell
that a Rogers is probably coming.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
How honest, Len, you know, somebody's being honest with you.
You know, you talk a lot of coach and g Anderson, whoever,
like I have. I have three different sources in the NFL,
and I've had them for probably twenty of twenty two,
twenty three years. But you know, I'm fed a lot
of information sometimes and you know I've been used before in.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
The draft season. It's really hard because remember, a scout
might tell you this is the best guy in the draft,
but he might have the power to do it, or
you know, somebody from the bri I'm just giving an example. Right,
we're talking about ownership coming from above and saying you
have to take shitter singers. If that was a scenario,
well five minutes before that, you could have gotten a
text from someone with asition making power in Cleveland saying nah,
we're not gonna do it, and then the owner does it. Right,
(31:45):
So predicting what's gapping in the draft is a fool's er.
It's really hard because of just the different things. And
no one thought your dur was happening, by the way,
like everybody's talking about oh, people need to saying, oh
I saw was coming with your DIR. You did unless
you said it was the biggest drop in history incoming,
then you didn't see a coming like you're saying, oh,
he might drop to the second round. We didn't drop
the second und. He dropped the fifth round. So you
didn't see a coming predicting what's actually gonna happen on
(32:07):
draft night outside of the first pick. You know, I
had Brian Callahan, the Titans coach, on my show a
couple of weeks ago, and he started talking and he said,
you know, I coached Joe Burrow when he was a rookie.
And I went back and I watched the zooms that
we had because it was COVID, so they recorded it
just to get a sense of what a rookie quarterback
would be like. And so this is like March fifteenth,
and I'm thinking, you know, Brian, you're probably not doing
(32:29):
that if you're gonna draft ab Dual Carter or Travis Hunter.
So I think you may have indicated where you're going.
So there's tells like that obviously, but I think, you know,
you kind of have to dis guess. I mean, you
mentioned you have sources where you have years and years
of good will built up. You know they're not going
to be su you know that they're not gonna use you.
I think newer sources or sources with something, hey, you know,
(32:51):
The biggest thing always is when a team is trying
to get rid of either a player or a coach
and they're gonna for I think it's Larry David thet
they're going to foist you, and they're trying to like,
so I had I won't say the coach, but I
had a GM text me a couple of years ago
about their defensive coordinator and he said this DC would
(33:12):
be amazing for the USC job. And I was like, no, we'
what are you talking about? And then a couple a
couple of months later that the DC moved on. But
it's like, I think they wanted me to put out
so and so would be a perfect fit for USC,
and then USC calls them and then their problem is solved.
And whether they had a multi year contract or they
just wanted to clean ending, whatever it is, that's when
(33:33):
you look at it and you go you have to
have internal You have to be your own harshest critic,
or else you end up sending a tweet saying so
and so would be a great fit to be a Trojan.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
All right, give me the hot NFL team this year.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I love Denver. I love Denver, and I know, wait, That's.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's two loves, like you love love Denver.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
I think Denver when I look around, I think about
the Eagles and how one day we woke up and
they had the best roster in football and they were
undeniable and probably the Super Bowl favorites next year. Right,
it's because you kept stacking talent. When I look at Denver,
I think in maybe next year we're gonna they're gonna
be close to that level. I think this year they're
going to be a double digit win team that I
(34:14):
think probably will get Super Bowl buzz going into the season,
and they're probably a year away from that. But I
love what Bonex is able to do with Sean Payton.
I don't know what he would have been able to
do behind Colorado's offensive line, but that's not the question here.
And then I think that the way they built the
trenches again, Eagles wise, the offensive line is great, the
defense keeps stacking talent. Baron was an awesome pick in
(34:37):
the first round. RJ. Harvey was a reach for UCF,
but again, Sean Payton knows what to do with running backs.
He loves contact, yes speed. So I'm looking this Denver
team and I'm saying, why can't this team compete right now? Now?
To answer my own question, the Chargers are also going
to be quite good. I love their draft and I
love Justin Herbert. I think Denver, though, is a half
step ahead right now in that division with obviously the
(34:59):
chief speing number one. I think all three of them
have the chance to be really good this year.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But Vegas is hot team. The Chicago Bears. More money
bet on the Bears in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
So I see that. I think that they answered so
many of that. So Killer Williams last year had the
most unblocked pressures and sacks in the history of next
Gen's deaths. So that's like a decade of data. Is
that no one had gotten a guy in their face
where literally the offensive line had no idea what they
were doing. And I look at him at it as
(35:33):
maybe the dumbest plan in history, because or modern football history.
Kler Williams had one flaw. He held onto the ball
to law. So what do you do if you're the Bears.
You give him one of the worst offensive lines in football?
How was that going to work? How is that ever
going to work? It didn't, It didn't. He got killed
and then was sixty four sacks last year, and so
they aut they go out and they probably overpaid for
(35:56):
some guys, but that's okay. Again, over we don't We're
not costplaying gms here. We just need this to work. Right.
If we're the Bears, and so the front is settled,
the defense is gonna be better. I liked what they did.
I thought Luther Burden was a really good value pick
in round two addressing tight end. Maybe you go to
tight ends with Cole Comet. I see that. I just
(36:18):
don't think they're an NFC contender. Okay, I see them
being much better. I see Klebilliams not getting sack sixty
four times. I think they'll probably make the playoffs. I
just don't see them in the same way I had
the Broncos to, which is I think in a couple
of years, the Broncos are gonna be Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Thanks for visiting. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
I met you when I was thirteen years old at
the Tampa Super Bowl. It's great to be here again.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Was that nice to you?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
You were very nice. You're gonna lose respect for me.
I was such a sports media dork that I was
at a hotel. I figured it out that somehow you
guys were all there. So I just hung out at
the elevator bank meeting Sports Center anchors, and I got
everybody's autograph, and the only one I can identify now
is Eisen because he signed it with his catchphrase, which
was you got it. So it says rich Eyes and
(36:59):
Kevin you got it?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, So there you go.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
So thank you for being nice.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Do you want an autograph now?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Okay, thank you Kevin.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
The podcast is called This Is Football Podcast, host of
Omaha Productions and the Mothership. We'll take a break. We
will give you our best and worst to the weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
Let me get to Gus in la best and worst
of the weekend. Good morning, Gus, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you and the boys had
a good weekend. Well you know, I mean, it's nothing
like sitting there slowly realizing that your team is going
to be the first round up set of the NBA playoffs.
That was fun and nice to watch. What was what
was funny is that I'm like sitting down, I'm like, man,
(37:58):
this sucks and everything. And then I got to see
the highlights of that Bill Belichick interview and yeah, I'm
like more with you. It was more the rubber Kraft.
It was like the awkwardness of that, like it's like
no because he fired you, you know, we agreed to
step away usually and then like that was the best worst. Yes,
(38:18):
the Lakers, thank you to that. But just a little
off topic here, what do you boyd make of these
incoming rookies requesting to wear the numbers of retired Hall
of famers. We see cam Ward get the Warren Moon number,
and just yesterday Laurence Taylor said no to Abdul Carter
who requested to wear fifty six. Is this, like, you know,
(38:40):
is it an homage to the legends or is it
idiotic to think that, you know, the legend's gonna let
you wear his numbers?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Okay, but and thank you guys. Cam Ward war number
one in college, didn't he so he wanted to wear
that number with Tennessee and Warren Moon, who was that
played for the Houston Oilers wore number one. He saw
Hall of Fame quarterback and he you know, signed off
and said yes. Now, Abdul Carter, who wore eleven at
(39:09):
Penn State, all of a sudden goes, I'd like to
wear number fifty six, and of course that's Lawrence Taylor,
and Lawrence Taylor goes, no, get your own number.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yes, Marv can Abdul Carter even wear eleven in New York.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Phil Simms, I don't think they retired it. Not a
Hall of Famer, but you know, a giant legend. You
don't pick another number. Yeah, don't don't go in there.
You don't want more questions. You don't want all this
guys a diva like, just go in your rookie, go
(39:47):
in and blend in.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Yes, yeah, Lawrence Taylor said to the New York Post,
get your own number and make it famous. Yes, I agree.
You're like, you don't want to use someone else's number.
You don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I unders Stan cam Ward saying can I wear number one?
And he reaches out to Warren Moon, or Warren Moon
reaches out to him. He goes to the press conference. Great,
it's a feel good moment and Tennessee could use a
few of those, yes, Seeton.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
I kind of like the idea though, of being given
the number and then it's like an honor. I understand,
wanting to make a number your own and then be like, ah,
now forever, I'm gonna be the guy who made nine famous,
you know, But there's also something about all of the
people who wore nine before you, and then now you're
the next in line of that, like it's an honor
rather than Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But Lawrence Taylor, that jersey is retired, He's maybe the
greatest defensive player of all time.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Eleven's been retired. That Phil Simms's number. I don't know.
I would just try to go in quietly, yes, Martin, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
To see his point, it sounds like the Cowboys. I
kind of like what the Cowboys do with number eighty eight,
like Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin, Desbryant, Ceedee Lamb, Like, you
know what, if we think you're going to be a
great receiver for the Cowboys, here's number eighty eight.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Ah, Yes, but if it's retired, why would you want
that pressure of that target on your back where you're
going to constantly be compared This guy's got a lot
of nerve picking a number of one of the greatest
of all time type, be able to live up to that,
even if you think you're honoring somebody.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Thank you, Todd. We'll talk some NBA.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Tim Legler will join us well, So play a couple
of clips from the Bill Belichick interview on CBS this morning,
including the one where it was girl interrupted, girlfriend interrupted.
I'm watching this and I'm going all be damned, all
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