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November 13, 2025 41 mins

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni will not stop getting questions about wide receiver AJ Brown. Basketball writer Tim MacMahon joins Dan and discusses how things have gone downhill in Dallas for the Mavericks. Dan also discusses the continued tinkering with the NBA All-Star Game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, Dan and the Dana and Dan Patrick Show.
Are the MAVs going to be trying to trade Anthony
Davis and or Kyrie Irving. We'll talk a little bit
more about the MAVs situation that showed a lot of
promise when they got Cooper Flag in the draft. All
of a sudden, if Anthony Davis comes back healthy, Kyrie
comes back eventually, all right, you got a formidable team here.

(00:29):
You got some veterans there. Jason Kidd as a veteran coach.
But we'll talk to Tim McMahon. He covers the NBA.
He joins us coming up in a little bit here,
but what a mess. And then you know, Luca after
a loss in OKC when they lost by thirty, Lucas
asked about Nico Harrison being fired, basically like, you know,

(00:50):
I'm just here and moving forward. You know, he did
talk about his love of Dallas and the fans and
all that, but it did feel like a move of
let's give the fans something here that they can share about,
and that's Nico Harrison being fired. The Anthony Davis situation,
I guess the owner has to. Okay, when Anthony Davis

(01:12):
can come back and play, you know, Kyrie's out for
a while, and they may be back in the lottery again. Yeah,
and there are some really good players in this draft
coming up. You probably got five guys who could be
the number one overall pick. But this is not going
as scripted for Cooper Flagg's inaugural season. Someone is guilty,

(01:36):
no one is innocent. Now I'm not talking about the
MAVs here. In the new drama series All Her Fault,
a seemingly perfect family's world is shattered when their young
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(01:58):
mentioned us in the press release, all these great things
that the NBC Sports Network is going to have on baseball, basketball,
horse racing, Pro Football Talk with Mike Florio, Dan Leviotard Show,
and the Dan Patrick Show. Yeah. So if you're not
able to get Peacock the NBC Sports Network, we will

(02:19):
be open for business on Monday. Yes, Todd, can we
say we're as proud as a peacock.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Or is that from the seventies eighties or is.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
That that's that's on brand?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Still can say.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Proud of a peacock?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, yeah, yes you can.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I don't know if that was this from our younger
days that they would always refer to, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, Paul, Dan, I've got some more deets.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
As a kids like to say, it's gonna be called
NBC Sports Network twenty four to seven, and you could
start with YouTube TV on Monday, than Exfinity and many
other outlets on the way.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
We're going to be really really popular. Now. You can
tune in now on Peacock to see us. Fritzi's here,
Dylan's in for Seaton. Seaton will join us from the
road coming up a little bit later on this hour.
Marvin is here, PAULI year's truly and of course the
back room guys our one poll question and the results, Dylan,
So our.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
One pole, Dan was who would you bet now to
make the Hall of Fame? Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Caleb
Williams or none of the above. M okay, none of
the above is leading with fifty eight percent, followed by
Drake May with thirty.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, if you're looking at that position, you can put
up great numbers, but it feels like you're judged by
your Super Bowl appearances and you got to have at
least one super Bowl. It feels like now Josh Allen's
going to be a Hall of Famer and Lamar Jackson's
going to be a Hall of Famer, but they have
put up incredible seasons. If you're going to be a

(03:43):
quarterback who plays fifteen years and you're in the playoffs,
you put up really good numbers and feels like you'd
need a super Bowl in there and trying to stay healthy.
I mean, there's so much, you know, the ebbs and
flows of how good your team is. You know, Tom
Brady went ten years without winning a Super Bowl, which

(04:06):
seems impossible for the Patriots to, you know, not be
able to do that or get back there. So I
would I would say I would lean towards none of
those three make the Hall of Fame. Even though Jayden
Daniels had as good a rookie season, maybe the best
rookie season the quarterbacks ever had, staying healthy and certainly

(04:26):
with him, that's going to be the issue staying healthy,
Caleb all of his talent. Drake may have shown promptly.
It's only year two, so I mean bow Knicks was
going to the Hall of Fame last year the way
he was playing. Now this year, people are like booing
bow Knicks and the Broncos offense and they're leading the division.

(04:51):
So I at that position, pretty tough, Pretty tough already
eight seven to seven three DP show email address DP
at Danpatrick dot com, handle at TP show football tonight
Jets at the Patriots, and the Jets are getting twelve
and a half. Paul Skeenes is your CY Young winner unanimous.

(05:11):
Cherik Scoobel won the Cy Young again. That's back to
back for him. If you look at Paul Skeens, here's
the last twenty eight months. He won the College World Series,
he was named the most Outstanding Player, he was the
number one overall pick. He's been the All Star Game starter.
Now back to back years, he was Rookie of the Year,

(05:34):
and now he's won the National League CY Young. I
had mentioned that there was a report out there yesterday
that somebody was saying that he has talked about the
Yankees going to the Yankees an anonymous teammate and tweeted
this out. Paul Skeens has come out, I don't know
if it was last night or this morning and said
that's not true. I'm here to be a Pittsburgh pirate,

(05:57):
which even if he was interested in the he's that's
the right thing to say that he is a Pittsburgh
pirate and he hopes that they can, you know, be
winners and bring a winner to Pittsburgh. I get it.
It has to be frustrating when you you're not going
to win many games. But like his ten wins this

(06:17):
year felt like twenty five, and his numbers even when
he loses, I mean, he put up some incredible numbers
here and at some point, either he, his agent, or
maybe the pirates say what is going to be best
for the pirates. And that's tough because you're going to
say to your fan base, you know, one of the

(06:39):
guys that you come out to see or you're watching
or listening on the radio is not going to be here.
Now do I look at Skeens the way I do
Garrett Cole. Skeens is a personality. I mean he's not
a personality. I think his presence, his girlfriend like it's
that's a thing he's known in social circles. Garret Cole

(07:02):
was just a great pitcher for the Pirates. But you
don't want to lose somebody. You want to get something
in return. And what can you get in return? And
how much trust do you have in the front office
of hey, we got five draft picks, okay, and maybe
those five draft picks, four of them developed, and then
maybe you have something for a couple of years at

(07:24):
least before they end up going to other teams. It's
it's going to continue to happen. It's unfortunate that Pittsburgh,
you know, which is a great baseball city, and having
grown up watching the Pirates in the seventies, I mean
they were the Cincinnati Reds, you know, arch rivals. I
mean that was their nemesis, the Pirates. Pirates were bad dudes,

(07:47):
and now you see them occasionally get a player, but
you're not holding onto those players with the amount of money.
I mean, Bobashet's going to get a ten year, three
hundred million dollar deal probably from Toronto. And this is
where we're going. You know, the Pirates, what could they
give Paul's schemes? What if they said We'll give you
a ten year, three hundred million dollars deal and you

(08:11):
do it right now? Can you do it? Should you
do it? What Paul's schemes want to do it? Yes, Martin.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah. When you see guys like O'Neill Cruz, you're like, look,
he'll look good in pinstripes.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, because you can't.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Afford those guys. I always feel that way about who's
my man from Cincinnati? Da La Cruz say, man, I
really hope he says the Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
But they made the playoffs, so at least you know
they're making the Pittsburgh's not making the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Oh no, true. But it's just like the Athletics in
the early aughts. They were getting to the playoffs, they
were winning division titles, but they couldn't afford to keep
Gimbi and the rest of those guys.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Uh. We talked a little bit about the Eagles situation
with aj Brown, and it just seems like this is
a constant storyline. Whether it's above water or below water,
it's there. You can't get rid of him. You do
need him, but it forces Nick Sirianni to have a
moment yesterday in the press conference where he's asked about

(09:06):
the AJ Brown situation.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was kind of business as usual with AJ.

Speaker 8 (09:12):
I mean, his latest comments, I mean made it seem
like it's not business as usual, Like how do you
kind of reconcile that with him?

Speaker 9 (09:20):
Yeah, guys, I'm I'm close to being done answering these
questions with us. Like he's working hard, and he is
a big part of this game plan and there'll be
a big part of the game plan going forward. And
he's working like crazy when he's here, and I'm excited
to have him.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You might be done talking about this. The media has
not done. The media didn't create this. Your player created this, Yes, DoD.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Since you said you're close to being done, if I
can ask the follow up question coach before you're done
officially done?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I got just one more here. How about coach, you
and Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown maybe get in a
room together and talk about this. What is missing? Why
is he unhappy? Last night looked he makes thirty million dollars,
he's playing for the defending Super Bowl champs. Is it

(10:16):
something as selfish as my targets? Oh my gosh, my targets?
Is that it? So he got over six targets last year.
Now it's down to four targets, maybe less than four.
So that means if we if we bring it up
to to seven, is he really happy? Kind of happy? Yes, Marman.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well maybe not even targets catches.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, you got to start with being targeted before you
can catch it. Yes, Dylan, did we know that.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
Aj Brown finished reading in her excellence because maybe he
missed it important last year?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Maybe a chapter there, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
The entire Eagles offense is down this year, though it's
not like ever else is flourishing. Last year they were
top eight, top ten year before, top ten year before that.
They were the third ranked offense in yardage. This year
they're twenty third. They're also top five and three and
outs this year. So the entire Eagles offense is stagnant.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Here is Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (11:22):
H adp Thanks for taking my call. You know we
talk about good locker rooms police themselves and.

Speaker 11 (11:31):
Going back to.

Speaker 10 (11:32):
One of my favorite DP rewinds during the commercial break
when Carson Palmer would talk about how Ocho Senko would
come back to the huddle every time and say he
was open and he was able to kind of manage that.
How much of this situation do you think is on
Jalen Hurts because we see him as the calm, cool,
collected guy, But do you think that the owners should

(11:54):
be on him to kind of try to figure this
out with his teammate.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, I got to bring the coach in on this,
and I got to bring the offensive coordinator in on this, like,
let's discuss this instead of, you know, having these sort
of cryptic messages that are put out there. That's the
problem that I have with this. Discuss it. And if
you're going to bank on Jalen Hurts being Matthew Stafford,
you are on the wrong team. But you got a

(12:22):
chance to win another Super Bowl. You're getting paid. If
they wanted you to have ten targets, they would target
you ten times. Apparently they don't want to be that
kind of offense. But I don't know, as DeVante smith
Up said, is he getting the targets now that aj

(12:44):
Brown got? Saquon Barkley's not getting the number of carries
he had before. Did they get lucky last year changing coordinators?

Speaker 11 (12:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Just feels like there's a lot more there than it needs.
To be. Let's see Wyatt in Florida. Hi Wyatt, what's
on your mind?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (13:07):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (13:07):
Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I was just getting
some breakfast and I sat next to a Cardinals pitcher
down here in Florida, Okay, And I'm like, all right,
you know, how do I approach this? Because I was
going to ask, you know, how is it like pitching
against Show?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (13:24):
And so I asked, and you know, he was a
little stand office. She's like, you know, you just want
us try to stay low and away. That's the safest
place to be low and away. He said he got
a couple of grounders off of him, but no dingers.
So it was just a really cool interaction with him.
And he actually went to high school with him down here,
so he said it was good bumping into you and

(13:45):
have a great day. So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
All right, thank you?

Speaker 10 (13:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, I would stay low and away from show. Heo, Tony.
It's just for some reason that ball eventually drifts over
the plate and then over the wall. Trying to be
down in a way. Alan in South Carolina, Hi, Allen,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Dan?

Speaker 12 (14:08):
Thanks for taking my call. This is about Dylan's betting strategy,
It's not unprecedented. Do you recall a movie with Richard
drax Has called.

Speaker 11 (14:17):
Let It Ride?

Speaker 12 (14:18):
Yes, okay, do you remember the one time he went
through the entire race track asking who you're gonna bet on,
strikes every name off, and the only name that's left
he bets on it, and of course he comes in
as a winner. So I just wondered if Dylan maybe
watch that movie last night or recently. It's worth seeing
again though.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
All right, thank you Allan, But Dylan is he has
to deal in reality.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
That's what I'm trying to do Dan, now, but Alan
is totally right. That is I'm doing basically the live
action version of the Analyst Jinks where they all Monday
Night Football, they all picked the Eagles, the Eagles are favorites,
they lose outright, I win some money.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Chris and s cues Hi, Chris.

Speaker 13 (15:02):
Hey, thanks as always. Stand Hey. In the first hour,
you guys were talking about NFL coaches who had bad
opening press conferences, never really recovered. The one outlier I
could think of is Dan Campbell of the Lions. I mean,
he was universally mocked for that biting the kneecap comment
and overall enthusiasm, and now his enthusiasm has really embraced
as pressers and yeah, I guess winning helps.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah yeah, I mean we played those soundbites from his
press conference. They had fun. You know, we're gonna be
biting knee camps. Once you start winning, then people laugh less.
They're they're more of a hull. Did you hear with
that guy? Yeah, they're winning a little bit there. Oh wow,

(15:47):
they do play in kind of his image. Yes, Dylan, if.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
The Giants going a little run here with a Jamis
do all of a sudden, the antics seem a little
less antigy.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, they're still crazy. No, no, they're still crazy. Yeah.
But as long as he just plays football. I mean,
he has the talent to be a starter in this league.
He's proven that. It's just I think it hurts him
by being as goofy as he is.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yes, Dylan or yes, Marv, I was nod in my
head completely. Jamis most must win game of.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Them No, no, no, no, no, it's Notre Dame against Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
I thought it was the Eagles against the Lions.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
No, No, for me, it's the Jets against the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Now of course it is all right. Tim McMahon covers
the NBA. He said, a lot to write about with
the Mavericks and boy, what a mess, what a mess.
But is their hope? Is their hope for the Mavericks,
And we'll talk to him. Kevin Love will join us
next hour, and Chris Sim's on loan from NBC Sports
will try to help us understand exactly what's going on

(16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
Away more phone calls coming up. Kevin Love will join
us top of next hour. Chris Simms will try to
make sense of what's going on with the Philadelphia Eagles.
How can you have that much drama when your record
is what seven and two and you got a big
game coming up with the Lions. By the way, Dan
Campbell intrude. Dan Campbell fashion said he has no problem

(17:59):
with the tush and of course he would say that,
but they are playing the Eagles. Imagine if he said,
you know, I have a problem with it, and then
all of a sudden the Eagles say, oh, you got
a problem with it, now we'll keep doing it here.
Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA reporter, he gave us The Wonder Boy,
the book on Luka Doncic and the Curse of Greatness.

(18:20):
He's been covering the MAVs as of late because we
got some drama there. Nico Harrison gets fired. Was that
just to playcate the fans? Tim Howdy?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Dan I had to say, there's a lot of justification
for that one, including the fact that the reason the
fans were outrage is because the man made the most shocking,
the most controversial trade in NBA history, and it's been
a complete disaster. I mean, this thing could not go worse.

(18:52):
The Mavericks have the worst offense in the league, while
Luka Doncic is lighting it up for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Anthony Davis came into CAMPBA a little bit heavy, has
a calf strain, you know. I mean they traded Luca
for for those exact reasons last year. Honestly, this is

(19:15):
it was just a horrendous case of general manager malpractice
and it reached a point where there was no justification
of Nico Harrison continuing to be the general manager of Mavericks.
It was only doing harm. The fury from the fans
that was the primary focal point. That like, that was

(19:37):
the dominant vibe when you walked in the arena. The
players felt like they had a home court disadvantage.

Speaker 11 (19:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
One player said, it feels like our fans don't want
us to win, and he was right, because the fans
wanted them to lose so Nika would would get gone.
And so it's a complete mess. They do have a
chance to pivot out of it because the basketball gods
gifted them the number one overall pick. Just complete luck. Obviously,

(20:07):
not part of the plan. But it's going to take
a lot of winning in the margins and a lot
of you know, smart moves to be able to build
a sustainable content around Cooper Flack and that has to
be the priority now, not trying to contend in this
three to four year window Nico Harrison thought he created.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, but I can blame Nico Harrison, But does an
ownership have to sign off on this trade as well?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Absolutely, and listen, the firing of Nico Harrison is an
admission of the obvious. The Mavericks made a colossal mistake
when they traded Luka Doncic, and not just that they
traded them, but that the way they went about it.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
You know, no trade.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
You don't trade a five time first team All NBA
selection entering his prime, fresh off of finals up here
and I could put a period there, but you don't
trade that guy, especially as a pocket listing like, hey
a secret, We're not gonna We're not going to create
the biggest bidding work in NBA history. And so Patrick

(21:15):
Dumont allowed Nico Harrison to be the one basketball voice
in his ear. He got bamboozled. Oh my gosh, Nico
Harrison took us to the finals. That's what he thought. No, dude,
Luka Doncics took you to the finals. There, Yes, there
are some moves to put some pieces around, but come on,
and it was it was new owner syndrome, just a

(21:37):
complete disaster. My advice would be for Patrick Dumont to
whether it's a press conference, whether it's a uh preferably
a one on one sitting down with me, but to
take verbal visual accountability for it and not kind of
some you know, he put the letter out there. It

(21:58):
was it was vague, kind of danced around it. But
what I will tell you is, yeah, it's also on
Patrick Dumont, absolutely. And he was less than a year
into being an NBA governor. He was listening to one person,
one person only, which is not the way to go
about doing business. It's been a very difficult learning experience

(22:19):
for him, and he understands there's a lot of work
to be done to get this fan base fully back
on board.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Why did Mark Cuban get kicked to the curb and
did he have any say in Nico Harrison getting fired.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Let me start with the last part. Cuban's been lobbying
for Nico to get fired for a while. He was
not alone. He had a lot of people lobbying with him.
I'm not going to I'm not going to say that
Cuban's lobbying was a primary reason or even a major factor.
But listen, he laid out a logical case why they
needed to move on. It wasn't difficult to do. And

(23:04):
Patrick Dumont one thing he realizes, Hey, i've you know,
Cuban has been doing this for why he's been in
this world for a while. I should at least listen
to what he has to say, have dialogue with him
instead of we're going to be trading the face of
the franchise Mark. Oh, actually it's already done. Hey, I'm
just giving you a courtesy call before it's about to

(23:25):
be reported in two minutes, Which is that was Cuban's
involvement in that trade. Now, why did he get kicked
to the curb? There's a lot there. One thing I
will tell you Cuban didn't help himself when he sold
this franchise or the majority share of the franchise and
you know, cash multi billion dollar check and then told

(23:47):
everybody would listen, hey, I'm still in charge of basketball operations.
These people there, it's just a real estate play for them.
They don't know what they're doing with basketball.

Speaker 14 (23:55):
I do.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I'm still in charge, don't worry. When that was not
part of the discussion of the deal. I don't know
if he was trying to speak it into existence or
you know, Cuban. I don't know how well you know
Mark Cuban, but I don't think he do real well
on polygraph tests on a regular basis. He tends to

(24:16):
be a little bit full of, you know, excrement. But
that that didn't help because it's like, what kind of
dummy do you think I am. We gave you all
this money and you're telling hybody you're in charge when
that's not the deal. So that didn't help. And I
think Nico Harrison realized, Wow, oh, Cuban says he's in charge.

(24:37):
Dumont says he ain't let me go cozy up to
the guy who is in charge. And Nico Harrison, you know,
former college basketball player, did a hell of a job
boxing out great boxing out there, and you know, Cuban
was complete. I called him the world's richest mascot. That
was Mark Cuban's role. You know for the first probably

(25:00):
plus of Dumont's tenure as the governor.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Talking to Tim mcmahony ESPN NBA reporter banded McMahon podcast
on the Hoop Collective and wrote the book literally on
Luka Doncic and the Curse of Greatness. How would we
know if Luca is getting better? I know he's in
better shape, But what would you see since you wrote
the book on him? What is different about him this

(25:26):
year than maybe in previous years.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Well, one, let me just remind you his last year
with the Mavericks, he led the league in scoring, was
rounding up averaging a triple double, and took a roster
that wasn't loaded with star town around him. You know,
Kyrie is a co star, but took that roster to
the NBA Finals, So pretty high bar to get better

(25:52):
from that. Now, I will say that I believe that
this trade and unfrankly, the way he was backstabbed and
fat shamed and all those kind of things on the
way out the door. And look I reported on the
fat shaming. The condition concerns are real, but it was
embarrassing for him. It was a slap in his face.

(26:14):
He has committed to conditioning in a more consistent way
than he ever has before. You saw the body change.
It's funny the Lakers listened to two forty four. It's
actually fourteen pounds heavier than the Maps listened them. The
MAVs just never updated to listen. The guy was in
the two sixties a lot of times in Dallas, so

(26:34):
you see the commitment to conditioning. He's also I think
grown up a lot in terms of understanding the importance
of being a leader exactly what a face of the
franchise means, you know, having a working relationship with the
front office. Luca never wanted anything to do with front
office stuff early in his career. He didn't start giving

(26:56):
input until the Mavericks completely bungled the jail Runson situation
and lost his coastar from the West Finals team for nothing.
Now he's he's not only is involved on you know,
like consistent dialogue with Rob Polenka and Genie Buss, but
he's making phone calls. He's calling DeAndre eight and hey,
you know, we need you here a recruiting same thing

(27:18):
with Marcus Smart. All things that are face to the
franchise needs to do, you know, to maximize their chances
of success and things that you know early in his
career and even before the trade, you know that wasn't
part of the Luka Doncics experience in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'll leave you with this. I'm wondering if ownership will
just blow this up in Dallas. You look at you know,
this draft coming up. There's probably five guys who could
be the number one overall pick. There's a lot of
talent there, and I wonder you don't want to go
into the next three four years thinking you're going to
get Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving. You got Cooper Flag

(28:02):
and almost admit you know we need to start over.
Will there be any sentiment towards trying to do that?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Well, it's complicated, okay, because in successfully building a contender
around Luka Doncic, you gave up your first round draft capital,
either outright or via swap. Twenty seven, twenty eight thirty okay,
and hey twenty eight okay. See Houston has now thirty,

(28:32):
the Spurs have it. So not only did you give up,
but your closest geographical rivals. You have the downfall here.
So but you've got you've got gifted Cooper Flag and
this kid.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Look, but did you go to the wrong place though?
Like Wenby went to the right place? Did Cooper flag
go to the wrong place?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
So far? Now, hey, they've they've really got to get
a lot of things right to be able to do
little sustainable contender around him. Okay, to your point bottoming
out this year, which they've done unintentionally so far, Like, hey,

(29:12):
that that's probably in the best interest long term in
the franchise because this is their one and only chance
to get a high, you know, mid to high lottery
pick and that type of talent to pair with Cooper
and you know, to grow with him. And I think
there's Look, there's they will have discussions at least internally

(29:36):
about exploring the trade market for Anthony Davis. He's got
to get back on the floor. They got to make
sure he's not in a situation where he's going to
aggravate the calf injury or worse. He will have some
type of trade value. They've got to explore that. Kyrie Irving,
it might be mutually beneficial for him just to take
the whole year focus on getting one hundred percent healthy,

(29:58):
not help them wine four games down the stretch. But
they can't do a complete rebuild Dan because if they're
bad next season, they don't benefit that Charlotte Hornets do
if they're bad the year after that. Okay, see he's
going to get a high pick out of it, you know,
and then then Houston, then San Antonio, So you can
benefit from being bad one year and one year only.

(30:22):
Another thing is Cooper Flag wants to compete a SAP.
They've got to get a lot of things right to
give them that chance. It's obviously not gonna be as
a rookie.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Would you rather have Victor Winbanyama or Cooper Flag?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I mean, listen, would I rather have Victor Winbnyama or
any other player name? Okay, that's not a fair question,
all right.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I like the All Star format. I didn't see the
hoop collective if you guys were talking about it. But
I do love that there is a chance that they
play for pride and the world will play for Pride,
and maybe we have an All Star game that feels

(31:03):
like it's an actual game. Your thoughts, I can you
gave me a little bit of a grimace there? If
we're playing poker. You don't like your hand.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Well, listen, here's the deal. I don't give a crap
about the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I don't I'm not Dan. Also, it's the problem though Tim,
people don't care about the All Star guy.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'm the wrong guy. You know why, Dan, Here's what
I do on All Star weekend. I cash in Marriott
points and Airline miles and I take my wife to
a beach somewhere. I'm not the target demographic. Now, the
product has been poor, but I think it's an overblown
thing because like the Pro Bowl it's awful, the Major
League Baseball All Star Game, like they're not competitive games.

(31:45):
The NBA is the aren't league that acts like it's
some kind of insane crisis.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
But what if Baseball did this and had the United
States players against the world.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
It does add some intrigue to it. And I was
talking to somebody I was in LA recently and I
was talking some more to Luca and like, Luca has
shown zero interest in All stro games, same with his
buddy Joker, right, And they said, Hey, you know, I
think these guys are going to compete now, Like to
your point, the international players, I do think there's like, okay, hey,

(32:16):
US against US against America, and you know, for the Americans.
Maybe it is like, dude, we can't just like God,
these guys are already winning all the m vps. We
can't let these guys just come in and dominate us.
That's a bad look for us. So look, it can't
get worse, and it's it's a it's an interesting idea.
I'll give them that. I don't know that. I'll tune

(32:38):
in as I'm sipping a survey on, you know, with
my toes in the sand. Thank you, Tim, Audios, amigos.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Tim McMahon ESPN NBA reporter banned McMahon podcast on the
Hoop Collective. I like it, you know, but I just
remember what it used to be now. I know it
can't be that, but I would have baseball. I would
do the same thing with baseball. Magine Otani. You know
you got Japan, you got the dr I mean, you

(33:09):
got other countries against the United States. That could be
fun as well. Let's take a break. More of your
phone calls coming up. Seaton's going to join us from
the road, Kevin Love at the top of the hour.
We're back after this.

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Speaker 2 (33:34):
This is the second time in baseball history that both
starting pitchers from the All Star Game went on to
win the cy Young. The other time two thousand and
one Randy Johnson Roger Clemens. So Paul Skeene's unanimous and
the first pitcher to win the cy Young in his

(33:55):
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talk to Seat and he'll join from the road. Coming
up here momentarily. Let's see Tommy in Oklahoma. Hey, Tom,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (35:08):
Patrick? He Dan loved the show.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
He turned down your radio. There you go, okay.

Speaker 11 (35:17):
I was just about to get the comparison between Jaden
Daniels and RG three. They've seem eerily similar, and do
you think they're on the same career path?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, I thought RG three took too many chances. The
field that he played on was terrible. I think they
both got injured against Seattle. Does that sound right? I
know Jaden Daniels, I think RG three did, so. I
know there's comparisons. And RG three talked about this. I

(35:53):
don't know what he said. I just saw that he
did talk about this. I hope Jayden Daniels can learn
from MARG three. In fact, I think I said that
when he got hurt, I would just talk to RG
three and just make sure that you know how to
protect yourself. You know, Jackson Dart is not protecting himself.

(36:15):
If you're gonna have designed runs, you know, then that's
on Brian Dable that my quarterback's getting banged up here, Yeah, Pauline.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
In six games this year, Jaden Daniels average nine rushing
attempts per game, by far the most by any quarterback
in the league.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
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over and ends eleven, twenty three, twenty five. In the
Maco Van Seat O'Connor joining us somewhere in the Great Midwest,

(36:54):
or are you officially in the Midwest?

Speaker 14 (36:58):
I mean I'm in Kansas, so that's all pretty Midwest
to me.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Wow, there's not much there. You're you're in the Plain state?
I am, I am, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (37:09):
Yeah, I just passed a place called Selena, Kansas.

Speaker 15 (37:15):
I think that's how you say it.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (37:17):
I got a lot of time to myself, a lot
of time with my thoughts.

Speaker 14 (37:22):
So yeah, it's been good. It's been really good. It's
a beautiful day here. It's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I can tell it looks you know, sunny, and a
whole lot of cornfields there behind you.

Speaker 14 (37:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah uh And you know, not to get
all poetic or anything, but last night the sunset here
was really really gorgeous. I don't know that we spend
enough time talking about a Kansas sunset, but it is.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
It is.

Speaker 15 (37:44):
Yeah, it's beautiful piece of the country.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, so timeline, are you where where are you stopping?
Later today?

Speaker 14 (37:51):
Later today, I'll be in Denver, OKAYU And then tomorrow
morning i'll be at about eight o'clock eight am, I'll
be in North Glen colleg Dorado, which I think is
about ten or fifteen miles north of Denver.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
And people can come out and sale o and touch
the Makeo van.

Speaker 15 (38:07):
They can, yes, yes, they can touch the Makeo van.

Speaker 11 (38:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah. No more accidents, no more scrapes, no more scratches,
no more nothing correct.

Speaker 15 (38:14):
No, no, no, no, We're good. We're good.

Speaker 14 (38:16):
Okay, we're It's smooth sailing from here, no scrape, snow accidents.
I just got to survive the Denver parking garages.

Speaker 15 (38:24):
And then I think we'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Snow in Denver. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (38:29):
I looked earlier today see what the weather was like,
and it looked like everything was going to be all right.

Speaker 15 (38:34):
So I haven't updated though since then.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Not a lot of traffic there on the road that
you're on, is there? No?

Speaker 11 (38:43):
Not a ton?

Speaker 15 (38:44):
Okay, Ton, it's awesome, you know what I've been Can
I ask you guys a question?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Do you have time?

Speaker 15 (38:48):
If I could ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay?

Speaker 14 (38:50):
Because I don't get to talk to a lot of people,
so this is really my only outlet right now. So
I've been listening to this vand and I don't want
to say the name of the band because I feel
like this is going to be negative. And over the
course of the last say thirty years, this band has
released ten albums. The first two albums I love, absolutely love.

(39:12):
They're super important to me from like when I was younger,
Like great third album, it's kind of like, I don't know,
this feels like a different band, but there's still some
bangers on there. Every album since then, I really haven't
paid attention to because I don't like But if you
were to ask me, hey, do you like this band?
I would be like, oh my god, I love this band.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
They're so good.

Speaker 15 (39:29):
They're what a great band?

Speaker 14 (39:31):
Can you really love a band if you only like
about twenty percent of their music. I only like two
out of their ten albums. But if you were to
ask me do you like that band? I would be like, oh,
love them, great bands, awesome Marvin.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yes, because you love them a lot at one point
there's some stuff in their catalog that you love. So
I'll say.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, but it's past tense. You loved you don't love
them now you love them. It's like an old girlfriend.
You loved her, but you don't love them, love her now, Dylan, what.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Do you think? I think you can? You can?

Speaker 7 (40:09):
You know, if it's a girlfriend, you can love her
earlier work, but maybe not her past. It sounds like
the Red Hot Chili Peppers to me, that was gonna
be my guest.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Now that might be not. That might be too mainstream
for a Seaton.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Uh, Todd, I'm gonna say yes, if you loved them
at one point I felt that strongly about them.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Yes, okay, Paul, Yeah, it reminds you of a point
in your life when you're younger and you love that band,
and I knowing Seaton, I'm going to guess Food Fighters.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
No, so far, it's definitely not Red Hot Chili Peppers.
There was never an era that I was like.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I love that.

Speaker 15 (40:46):
Come on, And no, not the Food Fighters either.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
They are a little.

Speaker 14 (40:51):
Less popular than that band though, for sure. And I
don't want to name them just because I feel like
it's still negative.

Speaker 15 (40:58):
But they I don't know.

Speaker 14 (41:00):
I feel like there was a point in time that
I really loved them. And even if you just love
those two albums, it still counts.

Speaker 11 (41:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
You're a lonely man, aren't you. You are a lonely
person on the road. Safe travels to Denver. Hey see
no Connor joining us courtesy of the Mayo Van. Go
to Danpatrick dot com enter chance to join us. Super
Weak in San Francisco. Kevin Love will join us. Coming up,

(41:28):
we'll talk about the awkward moment that we had last year,
and Chris Sims will stop by to make sense of
the Philadelphia Eagles.
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