August 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the crew discusses tastes in sports media, with clashing polls between wanting investigative journalism or wanting social puff pieces. A trip down memory lane to BALCO and Lance Armstrong. Travis Hunter will try to play both ways, but will that put him in any kind of MVP consideration? And former NFL lineman Ross Tucker discusses the NFL ban on smelling salts and his own reaction when he was given Toradol, and his view on training camp fights around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday. How's your day going.
I'm doing swell. Got the Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton,
Marv Paul Yours truly the backroom guys, our good buddy
Ross Tucker will join us. We got football tonight. I
got the Colts minus six and a half against the Ravens,
(00:23):
and I've got the Bengals minus six and a half
at the Eagles and the Raiders minus four and a
half against the Seahawks. Our gambling podcast after this show
with Shyan Irving, Bad Larry and also Dylan. We'll have
that up on the website of danpatrick dot com. Weekend
of NFL preseason games starting tonight, and just don't overreact
(00:45):
either way. If Shador Sanders plays well on Friday or
doesn't play well on Friday, don't overreact. I go back
to Zach Wilson a couple of years ago. His first game,
people are like, yeah, look at that man to the Jets,
get their guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, we know how that ended.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And what you're trying to do is and if you
talk to coaches more probably important offensive coordinators or even
defensive coordinators like the little things that they're looking for.
We see, ah, my god, he overthrew that guy, or
he threw a pick, or that guy dropped the ball,
he ran the wrong route, or did he run the
wrong route?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Did the quarterback throw it the wrong you know.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So there's so many things that go into this because
you have players who were playing in their first game
or getting getting to know their first team unit. You know,
should or Sanders hasn't taken too many snabs with the
first team, but due to injuries, he's going to be
starting on Friday nine.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So when you see these quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Battles, or you see a player and you go, boy,
he didn't look that good, or boy, did you see that,
you know, sixth round pick out of TCU, he looked incredible.
This is like the summer league in the NBA where
we'll watch him. We'll go, man, he put up forty
and then he doesn't even make the roster. So be careful.
And I know we're anxious to be like, man, I'm
(02:07):
ready to go, but just be a little bit cautious.
Now there's a yellow blinking light when I'm watching it,
just it's never red, it's never green. It's sort of
a cautionary tale. Eight seven seven three DP Show email
address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Good morning,
those watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country.
(02:31):
Seaton Poll question for hour two is going to be what.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We have up there right now? Which type of content
do you prefer? Oh boy, which type of contents are?
Do you want more of investigative journalism or lifestyle pieces?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, right now?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Eighty five percent of the audience say investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh they do, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Now, the second part that's going up is which type
of content do you actually watch or consume? And those
people who said eighty five percent are going to if
they answer the same thing, they're lying.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think we want it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
If you're older, I think you want investigative stories. I
just don't think we have the patience now where you're
going to read something that could be eight or nine
pages long, or it's on TV and it's fifteen minutes.
I just don't know if people have the patience to
do that, to watch that. Plus, if you're watching sports,
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we want sports to be positive. We don't want negative stories.
We don't want anything that attaches Otani to a gambling scandal.
We don't want to see a school taken down. We
don't want to school get the death penalty, or a
coach be suspended a player be suspended. When you think
about it, we love the positivity of sport. Now, granted
(04:01):
there's a winner and a loser, but we want them
to be able to play or be able to coach.
We want the feel good story. I just don't know
if people wake up and go too much positivity. Yes,
people don't wake up and say too much positivity. However,
was there like a more exciting.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Time in I mean there were a lot of exciting
times of sports, but the whole balco thing, the whole
steroid era, uncovering that the I mean, all of those
things were every day you woke up and we're like,
what's going to happen today?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What's next? How is this all going to go? That
was awesome having covered that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I thought there was too much coverage of it, but
we were unearthing things all the time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It'd be another name, you know, there'd be another source.
I mean, it just it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Metastasizes and then all of a sudden, you know, it's
every single day that you go to work and you
have to cover that and you're hoping there's something that
you can add to it. But yeah, back then, because
it was salacious and you know baseball, home runs, Bonds,
Balco a Rod, who's this doctor? What are they getting?
(05:13):
What's the clear? What's the cream? And how does that
help you hit home runs? The number of people back
then who would say, hey, you can take the clear
and cream, but that doesn't help you hit a baseball, Well,
it helps you hit a baseball further. And I would
always say, why would you risk your career if it
didn't help you do something? The amount of money that
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was made off of performance enhancing drugs, the clear and
the cream and steroids, that's why they did it. You
run the risk because to them it was worth the risk. Now,
in retrospect, if you ask Rafael Paul Merrow was it
worth it? Or Sammy Sosa was it worth it? Or
Mark maguire was it worth it? Or Barry Bonds was
(05:57):
it worth it? You might get different answers from those guys.
They might say, you know what, yeah, they all got paid,
but was it worth it? The public shame to go
in front of Congress if you're Mark maguire. You were
America's hero. You were Paul Bunyan. All of a sudden,
you're there and they're going and you know, hey, I'm
(06:19):
not here to talk about the past. And I go,
oh my god. If that's your game plan, you're in trouble.
Rafael pal Marrow pointing his finger and Rafael palm Marrow's
got three thousand hits. He was going, You're going to
the Hall of Fame. Now nobody brings his name up.
(06:39):
You know when they talk about other players, Rafaeld palm Merrow,
does he have five hundred home runs? I know he's
got three thousand hits. He might have three thousand and
five hundred home runs and he's not getting into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, PAULI I think guys like Barry Bonds and Lance
Armstrong are not sorry they did it. I think they
feel that they had to do it to compete with
everyone else who was doing it. Lance Armstrong said to you,
everybody was using it. I could either use or go home,
and I decided to use or I'd be off the tour.
I think Bonds clearly no pun saw other guys using
(07:14):
it and said, okay, wait, do you see this, wait
to see my skills with this stuff, I'll be the
best ever. And he clearly was.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But that's what happened Bonds, from what I'm told, was
watching what you know, the public, you know, adulation with Sammy.
So said Mark maguire O. It was this summer of
Sammy and Mark. We're gonna make you guys sportsmen in the.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Year and Bonds is gone. Are you kidding me? Are
you kidding me? Watch this?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And you saw what could happen when one of the
great players uses performance enhancing drugs. And Lance Armstrong was
a great story. He came back from testicular cancer. He
was going to die. Just the fact that he came
back to the Tour de France would have been enough
to make him a hero in the United States. But
these guys all have that same gene. It is full
(08:08):
speed ahead. You know, Jordan had it, Bonds has it,
you know Clemens had it, Lance Armstrong has it that
whatever it takes, I'm gonna be great. I'm gonna continue
to be great. And I looked at Lance and first
of all, we didn't care about the Twitter France, and
(08:29):
then all of a sudden, Hey, an American's winning and
we're like, now, Greg Lemon had won and he survived
a shotgun blast and it ended up winning. And he's
really the true hero in my opinion when it comes
to American cycling Twitter France. But Lance was he became
a star, worldwide star, and then the French came after him.
(08:50):
They're like, you're not gonna Hey, we can cheat, but
you're not gonna cheat and win our race.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
We can, but you can't. Yeah, paulin Well, it's.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
So funny though, when the French press and people came
after Lance Armstrong, it actually bolstered his case here in America,
like they're jealous they can't beat him. A lot of
people don't have issues with the French in general, right
going back decades and decades, and it was like Lance goes, well,
look who's coming after me, the people who can't beat me,
And we're like, yeah, Lance, go host sb's again, you're
the man. Buy some more stuff show. Hey Otani was
(09:20):
dealing last night.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In four innings, he had eight strikeouts, and I'd like,
I wanted to see what his odds MVP odds were
after that performance last night. So DraftKings just sent me
this show Heyotani's MVP odds yesterday minus four fifty. His
odds now are minus one thousand. It's really hard for
(09:43):
him to lose this. But I do think Kyle Schwarber
deserves some consideration here. He's not gonna win it. He
was plus three point fifty yesterday. Now he's plus five fifty.
Pete crow Armstrong was plus nine fifty yesterday now plus
fifteen hundred. Show to lose. And if you're pitching like
(10:03):
this and now you're ramping up and then you have
that weapon in the postseason, it's pretty amazing. And they
they certainly need him because the Dodgers haven't been as
formidable as we expected them to be. And I started
to wonder about this with Travis Hunter. I don't know
how much offense and defense he's going to play if
he's listed as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver.
(10:26):
I feel like it's going to be flipped when the
season starts. But if Travis Hunter doesn't go to Jackson
State where he can play both ways and you're playing
for Dion Sanders, if Travis Hunter went to Georgia LSU
or Florida State, he might get a sprinkling, he wouldn't
be playing both ways, but they would go, hey, we're
(10:48):
going to put him in a third down package.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Big skulls take you, and that's your position. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I don't know if this is going to open the
door for more players wanting to try this. I thought
Derek Stingley, who played at LSU, could have been a
two way player for LSU. But you're getting guys who
specialize as a wide receiver and those who specialize as
a defensive back. If you don't have Jackson State and Dion,
then maybe we don't have Travis Hunter winning the Heisman
(11:19):
Trophy because it opened our eyes to hey, he's playing
both ways, and then the knock, well it's Jackson State.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then he went to Colorado and he was playing both ways,
just like show. Hey o'toni. I don't know how many
and most of your great players were probably a pitcher
and a shortstop. That's usually the Hey i'm not pitching,
I'm playing shortstop. Hey I'm bat in third. And you
know there's guys who were great pitchers and they were
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great hitters in high school and maybe in college, and
most of them were. But I don't know if there's
going to be a player of players who say, Hey,
Otani's done it, Travis Hunter's done it. Now you have
to have the talent to do it, and you have
to have a coach or a manager who is willing
to let you do that. I keep saying, I'd love
(12:09):
to see Paul Skeens maybe play, maybe bat, because he
was a pretty good hitter. I remember at air Force.
I don't know the LSU numbers, but you know you
got some guys who were you know, they were great
athletes and two way players. I'm sure you know all
of these great players in college played both ways in
(12:30):
high school. So you might have been a running back
and a defensive back, or you know you're gonna be
a quarterback in a free safety to Daveon Clowney played
running back in a high school and defensive end.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You imagine him as a running back.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh my god, no, this is gonna hurt. But watching
Otani deal last night and nobody can answer that. I mean, imagine,
you can't pitch, and you have one of the greatest
offensive single seasons in baseball history. So he can't pitch,
(13:05):
but he steals bases, hits home runs, hits for average
and you win the World Series, that's amazing. But do
I think Travis Hunter is going to be used on
both sides? Yes, but I think sparingly. I think you
just have to ease him in and see what he's comfortable,
how he adjusts, because in the first couple of weeks
(13:28):
and then the last couple of weeks, that's what I'd
be curious what he's going to say about the whole
experience and how he feels his body feels.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He has Paul.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But with Travis Hunter, if you're gonna do it where
he's a two way player more than fifty percent of
the time on both sides of the ball, don't you
do it now when he's young, when he's fresh and springy,
for lack of a better word, because you think at
twenty nine it's gonna be one or the other, twenty
eight it's gonna be one.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Or the other.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, Well, I don't want to burn him out. I
don't want to have him get injured. It's a fine
line of Hey, people are going to tune in to
watch him play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I look at this kind of the opposite. The Jaguars
have him for five years, four or five years. I'm
gonna use everything he's got for those years, because it's
it's a coin flip whether he's going to have his
second contract there or elsewhere. So if you took him,
you took him for both the offense, the defense, and
the notoriety. And you know, the Dodgers could have gone
(14:28):
and said, this year, you know what, we don't want
Otani pitching because the guy was the best hitter on
earth basically last year. His numbers hitting are noticeably down
this year. They're still very good. But I wonder if people,
if there's people at the Dodger to say to themselves, Man,
I wish this dude would just hit and hit three
forty with forty five homewarns and forty steals every year,
because now he has I think fifteen or sixteen steels
(14:51):
this year. Last year he had fifty nine. What changed?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait, wasn't pitching, yes, and he was playing every day,
And yeah, I said, he'll never approach those numbers again
because he won't be in the position to They're not
going to want him to run like that.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I wonder though Dodger people who would prefer it. But
maybe when he made his Dodger contract and his Dodger deal.
He said, I am a two way player.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But it's helping him win an MVP Again, He's going
to have six or seven MVPs if he continues to
hit like this. And you still add in the pitching
portion of this. It just there's no one like him now,
the value when he's on the mound and when he's
at the plate. But go back to the Angels. They said, hey,
(15:36):
you can do whatever you want. Because other teams didn't
want him to be a two way player, but the
Angels did. Now all of a sudden, you know, there
you go. Now you're known as the Unicorn. You're the
guy who does the pitching and hitting. He's doing things
that are more impressive than Babe Ruth because Babe wasn't
doing them at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He was a pitcher.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Who won over ninety games and then all of a
sudden became the greatest hitter in baseball history. Show Heytani
is like I go out to the mound, I can
go to the plate as well in the same game.
And he's done it a couple of seasons in a row.
All right, well take it break, We'll get some phone
calls here pull question for the second hour of the program,
Ross Tucker, our good buddy. We'll join us up next
(16:19):
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Speaker 3 (17:04):
See what's the poll question for hour two before we
get to Ross Tucker.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, we got up there, right now, Which type of
content do you like to consume? Which type of content
do you actually consume? Investigative journalists, journalism or lifestyle pieces lives?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Right now? What type of content do you want more?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Eighty five percent of the audience are saying investigative journalism.
What type of content do you actually consume seventy eight
percent or saying investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Those people are.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Lying football tonight, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks. Ross
Tucker Westwood One, CBS Sports host of Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
He'll be the analyst in the Eagles TV booth tonight
when they host the Bengals. What do you look for
in a preseason game?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Well, that is a terrific question, Dan, and it really
varies from team the team. Specifically for the Eagles, the
team I work for tonight, it's kind of rare, I
feel like for them to have this many available roles
available starting jobs for a defending Super Bowl champion that
was as good as they were last year. The starting
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linebacker job next to Zach Bond is up for grabs,
starting cornerback across from Quinnon Mitchell, starting safety next to
Reed Blankenship. And then they lost a bunch of d
linemen to free agency or retirement. So the third and
fourth edge rushers, who as you know, play a lot,
the fourth and fifty tackles who play a lot. So
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that's that's seven of the top I don't know fourteen
fifteen roles for the eagles number one ranked defense are
legitimately genuinely up for grabs starting tonight. And what's cool
about it is Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, that
the Bengals are going to play their starters, Joe Burrow
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and those guys for a quarter. So it's fantastic work
for the young Eagles defense and for those guys competing
for those jobs to go against Burrow and the starters.
And I guess Tayler said they're gonna even play more
week two of the preseason against Washington, So obviously the
Bengals are trying to change things up after going one
and eleven the first two games of the season under
(19:26):
Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, that's the amazing part of this is certain teams
can use the first couple of weeks of the regular
season as their preseason, felt like Belichick and the Patriots
did that. The Bengals cannot afford to get off to
a slow start again. When you watch rookie quarterbacks, what
should we be watching for?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I think, as much as anything else, it's just do
they look like they belong?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Do they look comfortable.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
You can tell when someone's racing, you know, watch their feet,
watch their eyes.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
If their heads all over the play and they've got.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Happy feet in the pocket, that's not what you want
to see in general, you know, I always say is
about any quarterback, but especially young quarterbacks. The faster they're
getting rid of the ball right from snap to throw,
the better you should feel about them, because that shows
you that they've done the pre snap work, they've done
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the preparation, they have a really good feel for where
they want to go with the ball, and they get
it out quickly.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I will say, though, Dan as a caveat right.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Most of the preseason, especially for young quarterbacks, very vanilla defenses,
and then the coaching staffs are going to try to
enable these young quarterbacks to get confidence and be able to.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Throw the ball to their first read.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
It's just not like that in the regular season, right,
And the Eagles actually have a classic case tonight. Dorian
Thompson Robinson will play. He has been fantastic the last
two years in the preseason for the Cleveland Browns and
then in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
I got to look it up before the game that night.
I think he has one.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Touchdown eleven interceptions in his four regular season starts.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
So it's been very, very different.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
And that's actually a really important point as at least
the preseason football.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Some teams just want to put certain players.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Dan in specific situations and see how they react.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Some teams want to feature guys.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
To see what they have left or maybe to try
to trade them. Others, you know, they want to try
to go into the season with confidence.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I mean everybody you know.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
In the regular season, we know that everyone's game planning
to the max to try to.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Win that game that week.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
In the preseason, there's a lot of different goals that
people are trying to achieve, and so you can't really
look at the score or even the scheme. But I
do think how individual players perform, especially if it's really
good or really poor, I do think that's something to
make note of.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's Ross Tucker. He's host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
He calls games for CBS and Westwood One. Smelling salts
in the NFL says, no more smelling salts. What was
your experience with smelling salts?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Well, we didn't have that in college at Princeton, and
the first time someone gave it to me in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Nobody told me what it was.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
They just said sniff it, and Dan, that was a
bad experience.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Okay, if you don't know what's coming and you just
take it and you're.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Like, oh, okay, and you sniff in like that, I
mean I cried.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I mean my nose was burning.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I had a really bad first experience, which is probably
why I was.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Never a smelling salt guy.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
You know, there's a lot of guys that after that,
you know, they do it, you know, before every game
or sometimes during game.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, you've been around me enough, Dan, Do I
look like a guy that needs smelling salts?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Do I seem like a that needs a little something
extra to get going?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
The answer is no. And also I think I was
just too much of a wimp. You know. I had
such a.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Bad first experience that when they would give it to
me after that, I would do one of these, Dan
for people watching.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
On peacock or you like, you know, like five inches
from my nose, right I was. I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I was too afraid to get it like real close
to my nose. By the way, supposedly they can need
they can still use smelling salts.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The team's just not going to provide them anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
So now the players have to, uh, bring your own
smelling salts b yoss to your NFL games.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
If they're not good for you, then why is the
NFL allowing you to bring your own?
Speaker 8 (23:44):
That's a really good question. I think probably liability. I
don't know, you're right, like, if you're the NFL, you're
liable if you're the one supplying it, if you're the
one handing them out. It's probably the same reason why
they've cut back on a lot of the pain medicine.
They've cut back on some of the injections and shots
(24:06):
guys again and now they still do it.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
But man, Dann, when I was playing, you remember viox,
the anti inflammatory biox.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I loved biox.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Yeah, And at some point they came out and said
viox is bad for you. That is information that would
have been very valuable to me in like two thousand Okay,
to come out in two thousand and eight after I've.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Been taking it for eight years, like how does that
help me?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
And then also with the tortoal right, stuff like that
that they are a little bit more. I mean back
when I played, there'd be a line of twelve guys
to get the Tourtal shot right, just over and over
and over and over again. Supposedly they've reeled back some
of that stuff, and probably for good reason.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Let's tord all do.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Tortal is by far the best full body anti inflammatory
you can ever ta. You know, my rookie year, I
saw guys getting shots in their butt right.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
And I didn't play as a rookie, so I didn't
really even know what they were doing.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
I thought it was like Cortizona, and then someone said, no,
it's Tordal Dan.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Let me just tell you, okay.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Year two, we fly to Osaka, Japan to play the
Niners in the preseason. I'm starting for Washington in the
preseason game. After the flight, first practice, I get I
hurt my neck. I sprained my neck. I can't leave
the hotel room. I'm miserable. Before the game, I go
up to the Redskins team doctor and say, hey, I
(25:39):
need one of those shots in my butt. And they
said it's a preseason game, we didn't even bring one.
I said, it's not I'm trying to win a starting job.
This is like the most important game of my life.
So the Redskins team doctor goes over to the Niners,
gets a tort all shot from them, puts it in
my butt. Dan, I played unbelieve I played unbelievable. I
(26:02):
mean that's like the best I ever played. So I
will say this though. The tough thing about that in life,
right as a football player, there's always something bothering you.
So after that game, anytime I was starting, I pretty
much got a toward all shot. Because if you ask
an NFL player before a game, would you rather be
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a little bit taller, or faster, or stronger.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Or whatever they would tell you.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I just want to feel as healthy as possible, just
just I don't want my back to feel like that,
or my knee or my left shoulder like I just
want to feel it. So once I had that experience
my first preseason game my second year, anytime I was
starting after that in a regular season game, I had
something bothering me. I was taking a toward all shot
because I was trying to maximize my performance on the field.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What's your view of the training camp fights, Like, what's
it mean to you when you see a team that's
fighting actual you know, fisticuffs.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, So if you got any of my former teammates
on here and ask them about me.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I would think from two thousand and one to two
thousand and eight, i'd be surprised if I didn't lead
the NFL in training camp fights. I really would, and
in fairness, in my mind, I was never starting a fight.
I was always finishing a play. Now, the other guys
didn't feel that way, and they didn't like me, and
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they thought I was annoying. But I have plenty of
friends from high school and college. What do I care
about these guys? Right Like, I'm trying to get a
job right. So I would finish the plays and they
would not be happy, you know, whether I'm pancaking them
or hitting them late or whatever. So then they would
always throw the first swing and then I would swing back,
and I don't know, you know, it's one of those
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things where the coaches act like they don't like it,
but they do. Two thousand and four, Okay, training camp.
Remember Oliver Gibbson I think recently passed a detackle. We're
in Buffalo, and he was just annoying the crap out
of me, and he kept grabbing me. I couldn't get
up to the linebacker. He kept grabbing my jersey. So finally,
after a play, I was done with it. And that
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one I actually started, I'll raise my hand for that one,
and I just started wailing on him and he's punched
me back, and they break it up and I'm walking
back to the huddle and.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I thought, no, you know what, I hate that guy.
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I ran back and smoked him. I ran back and
smoked him. And Mike Mullarkey was our head coach. He
kicked me out of practice. Okay, this is like halfway
through practice. He kicked me out for that move. Okay,
and he told the team that is not what they want,
that's not what they're going for.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Two things happened after practice. First of all, some of
the best veterans we.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Had said, Tuck, you want to start to fight tomorrow
so we can both get out of practice. If you
get out of practice by getting a fight, well let's
start it early. And Mallarkey came up to me and
Malarkey said, I'll never forget. Danny said, hey, Ross, I
just want to let you know. I said, yeah, I said,
I'm sorry, I lost my head. I hate that guy.
He's like I know, he said. You know, I told
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the team that that's not what we're looking for. He said,
I just want you to know the way you play
is exactly what we're looking for. So they say one
thing publicly, Dan, but then privately, you know, they feel differently.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Good to talk to you. I have fun tonight. And
you know what, before you go, you tend to tell
this story. I think every year, maybe every other year,
of when you get cut that here you are a
high school hero, you play at Princeton, you're in the NFL,
and that feeling when you get cut, when you go
back to your hometown.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
You know what's so funny? You just saying that. I'm
not exaggerating.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
My eyes filled up a little bit because it takes
me right back to that. It's, you know, picture for
fifteen years of your life, ten to twelve years of
your life. You go back and everybody kind of knows
who you are, and everybody's like, hey, Ross, Ross, the
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football player, Ross, how's it going.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I saw you again for the Cowboys. I saw you
the Ross. What's up man? How's prinsing going?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
And then imagine all of a sudden, you go back
and it was on the cover of the Reading Eagle
newspaper Okay in Berks County, Pennsylvania now are west of Philly.
It was on the front cover Ross Tucker released by whoever.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
There was a bunch of them, right. So now you
go back and they.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Don't know how to react, Dan, They don't know, they
don't know what to say to you. Some people just
kind of put their head down. Some people are like, hey, man,
I saw the news. It's a really really awkward situation,
super uncomfortable. You feel like you're letting those people down.
They don't know how to treat you because they've always
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treated you like.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
You know, like you're a hero, but now you're the zero.
It's it's it's not easy. I mean it is.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
It takes some significant mental toughness, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Do you still have the newspapers that talked about you
when you got cut by teams and you came back home.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
I have all the positive newspaper clippings.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
I have no idea where the negative newspaper clippings are.
I think I threw the though, you know, I have
scrap books, which are awesome. My mom did them when
I was in high school and college, and then I
think even in the NFL, maybe the first couple of years,
and I love having those to flip through or show
my daughters or whatever. But didn't put the negative stuff
in there just because it brings back bad memories. There's
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you know, in life, right, we can all choose to
have gratitude for the things that we have and the
positive things that have happened, or we can choose to
like I could say, I wish I was doing this
game as a broadcaster, or I wish I was I
wish I'd played this long in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
How does that help you at all? Right?
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Instead, I'm just thrilled I'm doing this game tonight, thrilled
I'm doing games for CBS. If you have gratitude for
the things you have and are thankful for the things
you have, man, you'll be so much happier than if
you're always worried about what could have been, or thinking
about what could have been, or the negative or the
bad things that happen. I choose to look back on
my NFL career and just think about the positives in
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seven years and not all the injuries or the forty
times I got cut or whatever I've tried to block.
I mean, it's still there, but I try to block
that out as much as I can.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Thanks for sharing. Good to talk to you, Thank you,
Ross all Rights, great talking Dan Ross Tucker. Ross Tucker
Football podcast, CBS Sports in Westwood One, covering college football
and the NFL. We'll take a break your phone calls.
Coming up will also play Who's more Hall of Fainy.
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
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Speaker 3 (33:17):
The FedEx Saint Jude Championship has Scottie Scheffler as the
overwhelming favorite this week. He's plus two eighty to win.
Next Xander Schaffley plus sixteen hundred. Can we check and
see when's the last time somebody was that big of
(33:37):
a favorite during a tour event? Plus two eighty Xander
Schaffley plus sixteen hundred to win Saint Jude.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes, Tom.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
The little controversy about Rory McElroy setting this one out,
some officials not loving the fact that he's not participating.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It feels like there's an undercurrent there with Royal that
all of a sudden didn't want to talk to the media.
Just feels like all of that goodwill that he built
up and then like what's at the core of this?
And you know, maybe he feels like the PGA tour
didn't have his back because remember when he was using
an illegal driver, but Scotti Scheffler was using one as well,
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but the media focused on Rory. And I hope he
gets back to doing interviews because I've always said he's
one of my favorite interviews because he does think about
every question you ask, even if he's heard that question
ten times, he will give you an answer and I
always appreciate that. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on
(34:40):
your mind?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (34:44):
With Micah Parsons holding out and the smelling salts, NFL
no longer providing them, Jerry Jones just installed a blockbuster
in the room to get the boys fired up like
it's the Glory Days.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Thank you, Thank you. David.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Virginia, Hi, Pat, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Good morning, Dan. I had a question for.
Speaker 12 (35:07):
Your journalism. Is that with the merger of the NFL
and ESPN. I was told that the equity part goes
divided by the owners. How do they monetize that to
put that into the salary cap?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
They don't put it in the salary cap. I don't
think the players get that equity with ESPN and NFL Network.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Or NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, I'm guessing the CBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. We'll have
something to say about that. But Mike Florio brought that
up yesterday. They're getting ten percent of ESPN. I think
the owners are getting ten percent of ESPN. Shuffles in
Phoenix High Shuffles.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Good morning, Dan, and I'm calling in. I'm doing my
own journalistic advanced work here and also contracts because back
in I think May you had Adam silver On. Do
you remember that conversation with.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Adam Uh specifically what part of the conversation.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
The part where you told Adam that you have three
years to go, which means you're going to be gone
to roughly May of twenty twenty eight, and you said
it on the air, which I think is a binding context.
You have to do it. I think can bring it
up because you told Adam like not once, not twice,
but thrice. Adam I have three years left. I was
(36:33):
rejoicing because I figured you are going to stick around
longer than we anticipate. And that's that's actually evidence of it.
The otherst thing I wanted to bring up is you
and Marvin always disparage the Arizona Wildcats, and I wanted
to see if you guys would be willing to do
a pie of the face coming up because Connecticut and
Arizona are going to be playing for the next two
years during the regular season. So I wanted to throw
(36:55):
it down a gauntlet on Connecticut Arizona. I take Arizona.
You guys can take Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'm not back in Connecticut. I didn't go there, and
that's Marvin's alma mater and shuffles. I think you have
to admit Arizona kind of finds the banana peel in basketball, right.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
I disagree. We should have three national jackets, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I was there when you won your national championship. Yeah,
I mean I should have six Emmys, but I don't
have any. Not with the show. I was good friends
with loud Olsen and his wife.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was there. Yes, Marvin, I will take that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, you got it. Shuffles. Marvin will take the VET
each of the next two years.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Yep, yes, and we you guys don't go to the
final four. Don't make any more excuses. Wow, shots, love it.
Thank you, thank you, shuffles, thank you. I misspoke. I
guess with the commissioner. I was working for three more years.
It's the Super Bowl in Atlanta. That's we should do
a countdown. We have a countdown. I didn't know it
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was that funny. Yeah see, yeah, maybe we.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Could start that clock once the NFL season starts. We
could start the Dan retires clock.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
We got twenty eight days, nine hours, twenty eight minutes,
and twenty six seconds before the start of.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
The NFL season.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Uh, Mikayla in Missouri. Hopefully I got that name correct.
Speaker 13 (38:25):
Yes, hey, Dan, I'm flying out to youself for college
in a few weeks with my dad. His name's Bill,
and I've been listening to your show for as long
as I can remember. With my dad, we're going to
drive out there and call you during your drive. We
decided to fly last minute, so I decided to call
in and surprise my dad. So my question is what
advice do you have for my dad? As he dropped
me off at college.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay, he's got to stay strong because he's got confidence
in you, Mikayla, that you are a woman who's ready
for the big challenge now of going to college and
you're going to make everybody proud, and that he should
have full confidence in you. It's emotional because you'll miss
seeing you every day. Nothing wrong with crying. I did
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with all of my kids when they went to school.
But I also had confidence in them and told them
I had confidence in them that make wise choices. Make
sure that you get the partying out of the way,
understand what's going to happen, and then you got to
be disciplined there because you can't say, hey, don't party
because you will. The question is when do you stop
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and then get serious about school? That tell dad stay strong,
look you in the eye, tell him that he loves you,
and tell him that you love him. And can I
have some money dad? I think those would be the
important things. Thank you, Good luck, Mikayla. It's Mikayla Missouri.
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Going to school.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was always tough. My wife would say, stay strong,
stay strong.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You know what, maybe crime When I saw the bills
for how much it costs to send them to school.
Mike in La, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Hey? Guys native Cincinnati and enjoyed the Tucker interview. He
sounds exactly what he might go with. To me, if
I close my eye, it would where it was Mike
go with. But you know them two better than you,
but it really baffled me. Hey, the other day you
mentioned the greaterst thing it did. It was founded in
Cincinnati in eighteen seventy. But the really best ice cream
(40:30):
place is called Aguamisi Brothers, which isn't nearly as the
gotn't have a note variety, but it's sound in Oakley,
it's really really good. You were talking to Ross Dan
about the smelling salts and the and the substances. Was
there ever any talk of Jamar Hamlin's cardiac arrest, that
there was any type of thing like that involved.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, I didn't see that, but you know it was
where he was hit. It was a you know, it
was a fluke hit. Was that T Higgins? And just
where it hit him stopped his heart?
Speaker 6 (41:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Coming up? Who is more Hall of Faming? Paul will
give us two candidates and we'll decide final hour in
this Thursday, back after this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday. How's your day going.
I'm doing swell. Got the Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton,
Marv Paul Yours truly the backroom guys, our good buddy
Ross Tucker will join us. We got football tonight. I
got the Colts minus six and a half against the Ravens,
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and I've got the Bengals minus six and a half
at the Eagles and the Raiders minus four and a
half against the Seahawks. Our gambling podcast after this show
with Shyan Irving, Bad Larry and also Dylan. We'll have
that up on the website of danpatrick dot com. Weekend
of NFL preseason games starting tonight, and just don't overreact
(00:45):
either way. If Shador Sanders plays well on Friday or
doesn't play well on Friday, don't overreact. I go back
to Zach Wilson a couple of years ago. His first game,
people are like, yeah, look at that man to the Jets,
get their guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, we know how that ended.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And what you're trying to do is and if you
talk to coaches more probably important offensive coordinators or even
defensive coordinators like the little things that they're looking for.
We see, ah, my god, he overthrew that guy, or
he threw a pick, or that guy dropped the ball,
he ran the wrong route, or did he run the
wrong route?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Did the quarterback throw it the wrong you know.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So there's so many things that go into this because
you have players who were playing in their first game
or getting getting to know their first team unit. You know,
should or Sanders hasn't taken too many snabs with the
first team, but due to injuries, he's going to be
starting on Friday nine.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So when you see these quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Battles, or you see a player and you go, boy,
he didn't look that good, or boy, did you see that,
you know, sixth round pick out of TCU, he looked incredible.
This is like the summer league in the NBA where
we'll watch him. We'll go, man, he put up forty
and then he doesn't even make the roster. So be careful.
And I know we're anxious to be like, man, I'm
(02:07):
ready to go, but just be a little bit cautious.
Now there's a yellow blinking light when I'm watching it,
just it's never red, it's never green. It's sort of
a cautionary tale. Eight seven seven three DP Show email
address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Good morning,
those watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country.
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Seaton Poll question for hour two is going to be what.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We have up there right now? Which type of content
do you prefer? Oh boy, which type of contents are?
Do you want more of investigative journalism or lifestyle pieces?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, right now?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Eighty five percent of the audience say investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh they do, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Now, the second part that's going up is which type
of content do you actually watch or consume? And those
people who said eighty five percent are going to if
they answer the same thing, they're lying.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think we want it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
If you're older, I think you want investigative stories. I
just don't think we have the patience now where you're
going to read something that could be eight or nine
pages long, or it's on TV and it's fifteen minutes.
I just don't know if people have the patience to
do that, to watch that. Plus, if you're watching sports,
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we want sports to be positive. We don't want negative stories.
We don't want anything that attaches Otani to a gambling scandal.
We don't want to see a school taken down. We
don't want to school get the death penalty, or a
coach be suspended a player be suspended. When you think
about it, we love the positivity of sport. Now, granted
(04:01):
there's a winner and a loser, but we want them
to be able to play or be able to coach.
We want the feel good story. I just don't know
if people wake up and go too much positivity. Yes,
people don't wake up and say too much positivity. However,
was there like a more exciting.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Time in I mean there were a lot of exciting
times of sports, but the whole balco thing, the whole
steroid era, uncovering that the I mean, all of those
things were every day you woke up and we're like,
what's going to happen today?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What's next? How is this all going to go? That
was awesome having covered that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I thought there was too much coverage of it, but
we were unearthing things all the time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It'd be another name, you know, there'd be another source.
I mean, it just it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Metastasizes and then all of a sudden, you know, it's
every single day that you go to work and you
have to cover that and you're hoping there's something that
you can add to it. But yeah, back then, because
it was salacious and you know baseball, home runs, Bonds,
Balco a Rod, who's this doctor? What are they getting?
(05:13):
What's the clear? What's the cream? And how does that
help you hit home runs? The number of people back
then who would say, hey, you can take the clear
and cream, but that doesn't help you hit a baseball, Well,
it helps you hit a baseball further. And I would
always say, why would you risk your career if it
didn't help you do something? The amount of money that
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was made off of performance enhancing drugs, the clear and
the cream and steroids, that's why they did it. You
run the risk because to them it was worth the risk. Now,
in retrospect, if you ask Rafael Paul Merrow was it
worth it? Or Sammy Sosa was it worth it? Or
Mark maguire was it worth it? Or Barry Bonds was
(05:57):
it worth it? You might get different answers from those guys.
They might say, you know what, yeah, they all got paid,
but was it worth it? The public shame to go
in front of Congress if you're Mark maguire. You were
America's hero. You were Paul Bunyan. All of a sudden,
you're there and they're going and you know, hey, I'm
(06:19):
not here to talk about the past. And I go,
oh my god. If that's your game plan, you're in trouble.
Rafael pal Marrow pointing his finger and Rafael palm Marrow's
got three thousand hits. He was going, You're going to
the Hall of Fame. Now nobody brings his name up.
(06:39):
You know when they talk about other players, Rafaeld palm Merrow,
does he have five hundred home runs? I know he's
got three thousand hits. He might have three thousand and
five hundred home runs and he's not getting into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, PAULI I think guys like Barry Bonds and Lance
Armstrong are not sorry they did it. I think they
feel that they had to do it to compete with
everyone else who was doing it. Lance Armstrong said to you,
everybody was using it. I could either use or go home,
and I decided to use or I'd be off the tour.
I think Bonds clearly no pun saw other guys using
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it and said, okay, wait, do you see this, wait
to see my skills with this stuff, I'll be the
best ever. And he clearly was.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But that's what happened Bonds, from what I'm told, was
watching what you know, the public, you know, adulation with Sammy.
So said Mark maguire O. It was this summer of
Sammy and Mark. We're gonna make you guys sportsmen in the.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Year and Bonds is gone. Are you kidding me? Are
you kidding me? Watch this?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And you saw what could happen when one of the
great players uses performance enhancing drugs. And Lance Armstrong was
a great story. He came back from testicular cancer. He
was going to die. Just the fact that he came
back to the Tour de France would have been enough
to make him a hero in the United States. But
these guys all have that same gene. It is full
(08:08):
speed ahead. You know, Jordan had it, Bonds has it,
you know Clemens had it, Lance Armstrong has it that
whatever it takes, I'm gonna be great. I'm gonna continue
to be great. And I looked at Lance and first
of all, we didn't care about the Twitter France, and
(08:29):
then all of a sudden, Hey, an American's winning and
we're like, now, Greg Lemon had won and he survived
a shotgun blast and it ended up winning. And he's
really the true hero in my opinion when it comes
to American cycling Twitter France. But Lance was he became
a star, worldwide star, and then the French came after him.
(08:50):
They're like, you're not gonna Hey, we can cheat, but
you're not gonna cheat and win our race.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
We can, but you can't. Yeah, paulin Well, it's.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
So funny though, when the French press and people came
after Lance Armstrong, it actually bolstered his case here in America,
like they're jealous they can't beat him. A lot of
people don't have issues with the French in general, right
going back decades and decades, and it was like Lance goes, well,
look who's coming after me, the people who can't beat me,
And we're like, yeah, Lance, go host sb's again, you're
the man. Buy some more stuff show. Hey Otani was
(09:20):
dealing last night.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
In four innings, he had eight strikeouts, and I'd like,
I wanted to see what his odds MVP odds were
after that performance last night. So DraftKings just sent me
this show Heyotani's MVP odds yesterday minus four fifty. His
odds now are minus one thousand. It's really hard for
(09:43):
him to lose this. But I do think Kyle Schwarber
deserves some consideration here. He's not gonna win it. He
was plus three point fifty yesterday. Now he's plus five fifty.
Pete crow Armstrong was plus nine fifty yesterday now plus
fifteen hundred. Show to lose. And if you're pitching like
(10:03):
this and now you're ramping up and then you have
that weapon in the postseason, it's pretty amazing. And they
they certainly need him because the Dodgers haven't been as
formidable as we expected them to be. And I started
to wonder about this with Travis Hunter. I don't know
how much offense and defense he's going to play if
he's listed as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver.
(10:26):
I feel like it's going to be flipped when the
season starts. But if Travis Hunter doesn't go to Jackson
State where he can play both ways and you're playing
for Dion Sanders, if Travis Hunter went to Georgia LSU
or Florida State, he might get a sprinkling, he wouldn't
be playing both ways, but they would go, hey, we're
(10:48):
going to put him in a third down package.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Big skulls take you, and that's your position. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I don't know if this is going to open the
door for more players wanting to try this. I thought
Derek Stingley, who played at LSU, could have been a
two way player for LSU. But you're getting guys who
specialize as a wide receiver and those who specialize as
a defensive back. If you don't have Jackson State and Dion,
then maybe we don't have Travis Hunter winning the Heisman
(11:19):
Trophy because it opened our eyes to hey, he's playing
both ways, and then the knock, well it's Jackson State.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then he went to Colorado and he was playing both ways,
just like show. Hey o'toni. I don't know how many
and most of your great players were probably a pitcher
and a shortstop. That's usually the Hey i'm not pitching,
I'm playing shortstop. Hey I'm bat in third. And you
know there's guys who were great pitchers and they were
(11:49):
great hitters in high school and maybe in college, and
most of them were. But I don't know if there's
going to be a player of players who say, Hey,
Otani's done it, Travis Hunter's done it. Now you have
to have the talent to do it, and you have
to have a coach or a manager who is willing
to let you do that. I keep saying, I'd love
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to see Paul Skeens maybe play, maybe bat, because he
was a pretty good hitter. I remember at air Force.
I don't know the LSU numbers, but you know you
got some guys who were you know, they were great
athletes and two way players. I'm sure you know all
of these great players in college played both ways in
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high school. So you might have been a running back
and a defensive back, or you know you're gonna be
a quarterback in a free safety to Daveon Clowney played
running back in a high school and defensive end.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You imagine him as a running back.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh my god, no, this is gonna hurt. But watching
Otani deal last night and nobody can answer that. I mean, imagine,
you can't pitch, and you have one of the greatest
offensive single seasons in baseball history. So he can't pitch,
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but he steals bases, hits home runs, hits for average
and you win the World Series, that's amazing. But do
I think Travis Hunter is going to be used on
both sides? Yes, but I think sparingly. I think you
just have to ease him in and see what he's comfortable,
how he adjusts, because in the first couple of weeks
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and then the last couple of weeks, that's what I'd
be curious what he's going to say about the whole
experience and how he feels his body feels.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He has Paul.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But with Travis Hunter, if you're gonna do it where
he's a two way player more than fifty percent of
the time on both sides of the ball, don't you
do it now when he's young, when he's fresh and springy,
for lack of a better word, because you think at
twenty nine it's gonna be one or the other, twenty
eight it's gonna be one.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Or the other.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, Well, I don't want to burn him out. I
don't want to have him get injured. It's a fine
line of Hey, people are going to tune in to
watch him play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I look at this kind of the opposite. The Jaguars
have him for five years, four or five years. I'm
gonna use everything he's got for those years, because it's
it's a coin flip whether he's going to have his
second contract there or elsewhere. So if you took him,
you took him for both the offense, the defense, and
the notoriety. And you know, the Dodgers could have gone
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and said, this year, you know what, we don't want
Otani pitching because the guy was the best hitter on
earth basically last year. His numbers hitting are noticeably down
this year. They're still very good. But I wonder if people,
if there's people at the Dodger to say to themselves, Man,
I wish this dude would just hit and hit three
forty with forty five homewarns and forty steals every year,
because now he has I think fifteen or sixteen steels
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this year. Last year he had fifty nine. What changed?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait, wasn't pitching, yes, and he was playing every day,
And yeah, I said, he'll never approach those numbers again
because he won't be in the position to They're not
going to want him to run like that.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I wonder though Dodger people who would prefer it. But
maybe when he made his Dodger contract and his Dodger deal.
He said, I am a two way player.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But it's helping him win an MVP Again, He's going
to have six or seven MVPs if he continues to
hit like this. And you still add in the pitching
portion of this. It just there's no one like him now,
the value when he's on the mound and when he's
at the plate. But go back to the Angels. They said, hey,
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you can do whatever you want. Because other teams didn't
want him to be a two way player, but the
Angels did. Now all of a sudden, you know, there
you go. Now you're known as the Unicorn. You're the
guy who does the pitching and hitting. He's doing things
that are more impressive than Babe Ruth because Babe wasn't
doing them at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He was a pitcher.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Who won over ninety games and then all of a
sudden became the greatest hitter in baseball history. Show Heytani
is like I go out to the mound, I can
go to the plate as well in the same game.
And he's done it a couple of seasons in a row.
All right, well take it break, We'll get some phone
calls here pull question for the second hour of the program,
Ross Tucker, our good buddy. We'll join us up next
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Speaker 3 (17:04):
See what's the poll question for hour two before we
get to Ross Tucker.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, we got up there, right now, Which type of
content do you like to consume? Which type of content
do you actually consume? Investigative journalists, journalism or lifestyle pieces lives?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Right now? What type of content do you want more?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Eighty five percent of the audience are saying investigative journalism.
What type of content do you actually consume seventy eight
percent or saying investigative journalism.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Those people are.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Lying football tonight, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks. Ross
Tucker Westwood One, CBS Sports host of Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
He'll be the analyst in the Eagles TV booth tonight
when they host the Bengals. What do you look for
in a preseason game?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Well, that is a terrific question, Dan, and it really
varies from team the team. Specifically for the Eagles, the
team I work for tonight, it's kind of rare, I
feel like for them to have this many available roles
available starting jobs for a defending Super Bowl champion that
was as good as they were last year. The starting
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linebacker job next to Zach Bond is up for grabs,
starting cornerback across from Quinnon Mitchell, starting safety next to
Reed Blankenship. And then they lost a bunch of d
linemen to free agency or retirement. So the third and
fourth edge rushers, who as you know, play a lot,
the fourth and fifty tackles who play a lot. So
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that's that's seven of the top I don't know fourteen
fifteen roles for the eagles number one ranked defense are
legitimately genuinely up for grabs starting tonight. And what's cool
about it is Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, that
the Bengals are going to play their starters, Joe Burrow
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and those guys for a quarter. So it's fantastic work
for the young Eagles defense and for those guys competing
for those jobs to go against Burrow and the starters.
And I guess Tayler said they're gonna even play more
week two of the preseason against Washington, So obviously the
Bengals are trying to change things up after going one
and eleven the first two games of the season under
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Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, that's the amazing part of this is certain teams
can use the first couple of weeks of the regular
season as their preseason, felt like Belichick and the Patriots
did that. The Bengals cannot afford to get off to
a slow start again. When you watch rookie quarterbacks, what
should we be watching for?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I think, as much as anything else, it's just do
they look like they belong?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Do they look comfortable.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
You can tell when someone's racing, you know, watch their feet,
watch their eyes.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
If their heads all over the play and they've got.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Happy feet in the pocket, that's not what you want
to see in general, you know, I always say is
about any quarterback, but especially young quarterbacks. The faster they're
getting rid of the ball right from snap to throw,
the better you should feel about them, because that shows
you that they've done the pre snap work, they've done
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the preparation, they have a really good feel for where
they want to go with the ball, and they get
it out quickly.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I will say, though, Dan as a caveat right.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Most of the preseason, especially for young quarterbacks, very vanilla defenses,
and then the coaching staffs are going to try to
enable these young quarterbacks to get confidence and be able to.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Throw the ball to their first read.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
It's just not like that in the regular season, right,
And the Eagles actually have a classic case tonight. Dorian
Thompson Robinson will play. He has been fantastic the last
two years in the preseason for the Cleveland Browns and
then in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
I got to look it up before the game that night.
I think he has one.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Touchdown eleven interceptions in his four regular season starts.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
So it's been very, very different.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
And that's actually a really important point as at least
the preseason football.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Some teams just want to put certain players.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Dan in specific situations and see how they react.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Some teams want to feature guys.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
To see what they have left or maybe to try
to trade them. Others, you know, they want to try
to go into the season with confidence.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I mean everybody you know.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
In the regular season, we know that everyone's game planning
to the max to try to.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Win that game that week.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
In the preseason, there's a lot of different goals that
people are trying to achieve, and so you can't really
look at the score or even the scheme. But I
do think how individual players perform, especially if it's really
good or really poor, I do think that's something to
make note of.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's Ross Tucker. He's host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
He calls games for CBS and Westwood One. Smelling salts
in the NFL says, no more smelling salts. What was
your experience with smelling salts?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Well, we didn't have that in college at Princeton, and
the first time someone gave it to me in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Nobody told me what it was.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
They just said sniff it, and Dan, that was a
bad experience.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Okay, if you don't know what's coming and you just
take it and you're.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Like, oh, okay, and you sniff in like that, I
mean I cried.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I mean my nose was burning.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I had a really bad first experience, which is probably
why I was.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Never a smelling salt guy.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
You know, there's a lot of guys that after that,
you know, they do it, you know, before every game
or sometimes during game.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, you've been around me enough, Dan, Do I
look like a guy that needs smelling salts?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Do I seem like a that needs a little something
extra to get going?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
The answer is no. And also I think I was
just too much of a wimp. You know. I had
such a.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Bad first experience that when they would give it to
me after that, I would do one of these, Dan
for people watching.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
On peacock or you like, you know, like five inches
from my nose, right I was. I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I was too afraid to get it like real close
to my nose. By the way, supposedly they can need
they can still use smelling salts.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The team's just not going to provide them anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
So now the players have to, uh, bring your own
smelling salts b yoss to your NFL games.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
If they're not good for you, then why is the
NFL allowing you to bring your own?
Speaker 8 (23:44):
That's a really good question. I think probably liability. I
don't know, you're right, like, if you're the NFL, you're
liable if you're the one supplying it, if you're the
one handing them out. It's probably the same reason why
they've cut back on a lot of the pain medicine.
They've cut back on some of the injections and shots
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guys again and now they still do it.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
But man, Dann, when I was playing, you remember viox,
the anti inflammatory biox.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I loved biox.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Yeah, And at some point they came out and said
viox is bad for you. That is information that would
have been very valuable to me in like two thousand Okay,
to come out in two thousand and eight after I've.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Been taking it for eight years, like how does that
help me?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
And then also with the tortoal right, stuff like that
that they are a little bit more. I mean back
when I played, there'd be a line of twelve guys
to get the Tourtal shot right, just over and over
and over and over again. Supposedly they've reeled back some
of that stuff, and probably for good reason.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Let's tord all do.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Tortal is by far the best full body anti inflammatory
you can ever ta. You know, my rookie year, I
saw guys getting shots in their butt right.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
And I didn't play as a rookie, so I didn't
really even know what they were doing.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
I thought it was like Cortizona, and then someone said, no,
it's Tordal Dan.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Let me just tell you, okay.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Year two, we fly to Osaka, Japan to play the
Niners in the preseason. I'm starting for Washington in the
preseason game. After the flight, first practice, I get I
hurt my neck. I sprained my neck. I can't leave
the hotel room. I'm miserable. Before the game, I go
up to the Redskins team doctor and say, hey, I
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need one of those shots in my butt. And they
said it's a preseason game, we didn't even bring one.
I said, it's not I'm trying to win a starting job.
This is like the most important game of my life.
So the Redskins team doctor goes over to the Niners,
gets a tort all shot from them, puts it in
my butt. Dan, I played unbelieve I played unbelievable. I
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mean that's like the best I ever played. So I
will say this though. The tough thing about that in life,
right as a football player, there's always something bothering you.
So after that game, anytime I was starting, I pretty
much got a toward all shot. Because if you ask
an NFL player before a game, would you rather be
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a little bit taller, or faster, or stronger.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Or whatever they would tell you.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I just want to feel as healthy as possible, just
just I don't want my back to feel like that,
or my knee or my left shoulder like I just
want to feel it. So once I had that experience
my first preseason game my second year, anytime I was
starting after that in a regular season game, I had
something bothering me. I was taking a toward all shot
because I was trying to maximize my performance on the field.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What's your view of the training camp fights, Like, what's
it mean to you when you see a team that's
fighting actual you know, fisticuffs.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, So if you got any of my former teammates
on here and ask them about me.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I would think from two thousand and one to two
thousand and eight, i'd be surprised if I didn't lead
the NFL in training camp fights. I really would, and
in fairness, in my mind, I was never starting a fight.
I was always finishing a play. Now, the other guys
didn't feel that way, and they didn't like me, and
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they thought I was annoying. But I have plenty of
friends from high school and college. What do I care
about these guys? Right Like, I'm trying to get a
job right. So I would finish the plays and they
would not be happy, you know, whether I'm pancaking them
or hitting them late or whatever. So then they would
always throw the first swing and then I would swing back,
and I don't know, you know, it's one of those
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things where the coaches act like they don't like it,
but they do. Two thousand and four, Okay, training camp.
Remember Oliver Gibbson I think recently passed a detackle. We're
in Buffalo, and he was just annoying the crap out
of me, and he kept grabbing me. I couldn't get
up to the linebacker. He kept grabbing my jersey. So finally,
after a play, I was done with it. And that
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one I actually started, I'll raise my hand for that one,
and I just started wailing on him and he's punched
me back, and they break it up and I'm walking
back to the huddle and.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I thought, no, you know what, I hate that guy.
I'm sick of it.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I ran back and smoked him. I ran back and
smoked him. And Mike Mullarkey was our head coach. He
kicked me out of practice. Okay, this is like halfway
through practice. He kicked me out for that move. Okay,
and he told the team that is not what they want,
that's not what they're going for.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Two things happened after practice. First of all, some of
the best veterans we.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Had said, Tuck, you want to start to fight tomorrow
so we can both get out of practice. If you
get out of practice by getting a fight, well let's
start it early. And Mallarkey came up to me and
Malarkey said, I'll never forget. Danny said, hey, Ross, I
just want to let you know. I said, yeah, I said,
I'm sorry, I lost my head. I hate that guy.
He's like I know, he said. You know, I told
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the team that that's not what we're looking for. He said,
I just want you to know the way you play
is exactly what we're looking for. So they say one
thing publicly, Dan, but then privately, you know, they feel differently.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Good to talk to you. I have fun tonight. And
you know what, before you go, you tend to tell
this story. I think every year, maybe every other year,
of when you get cut that here you are a
high school hero, you play at Princeton, you're in the NFL,
and that feeling when you get cut, when you go
back to your hometown.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
You know what's so funny? You just saying that. I'm
not exaggerating.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
My eyes filled up a little bit because it takes
me right back to that. It's, you know, picture for
fifteen years of your life, ten to twelve years of
your life. You go back and everybody kind of knows
who you are, and everybody's like, hey, Ross, Ross, the
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football player, Ross, how's it going.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I saw you again for the Cowboys. I saw you
the Ross. What's up man? How's prinsing going?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
And then imagine all of a sudden, you go back
and it was on the cover of the Reading Eagle
newspaper Okay in Berks County, Pennsylvania now are west of Philly.
It was on the front cover Ross Tucker released by whoever.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
There was a bunch of them, right. So now you
go back and they.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Don't know how to react, Dan, They don't know, they
don't know what to say to you. Some people just
kind of put their head down. Some people are like, hey, man,
I saw the news. It's a really really awkward situation,
super uncomfortable. You feel like you're letting those people down.
They don't know how to treat you because they've always
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treated you like.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
You know, like you're a hero, but now you're the zero.
It's it's it's not easy. I mean it is.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
It takes some significant mental toughness, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Do you still have the newspapers that talked about you
when you got cut by teams and you came back home.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
I have all the positive newspaper clippings.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
I have no idea where the negative newspaper clippings are.
I think I threw the though, you know, I have
scrap books, which are awesome. My mom did them when
I was in high school and college, and then I
think even in the NFL, maybe the first couple of years,
and I love having those to flip through or show
my daughters or whatever. But didn't put the negative stuff
in there just because it brings back bad memories. There's
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you know, in life, right, we can all choose to
have gratitude for the things that we have and the
positive things that have happened, or we can choose to
like I could say, I wish I was doing this
game as a broadcaster, or I wish I was I
wish I'd played this long in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
How does that help you at all? Right?
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Instead, I'm just thrilled I'm doing this game tonight, thrilled
I'm doing games for CBS. If you have gratitude for
the things you have and are thankful for the things
you have, man, you'll be so much happier than if
you're always worried about what could have been, or thinking
about what could have been, or the negative or the
bad things that happen. I choose to look back on
my NFL career and just think about the positives in
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seven years and not all the injuries or the forty
times I got cut or whatever I've tried to block.
I mean, it's still there, but I try to block
that out as much as I can.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Thanks for sharing. Good to talk to you, Thank you,
Ross all Rights, great talking Dan Ross Tucker. Ross Tucker
Football podcast, CBS Sports in Westwood One, covering college football
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Speaker 3 (33:17):
The FedEx Saint Jude Championship has Scottie Scheffler as the
overwhelming favorite this week. He's plus two eighty to win.
Next Xander Schaffley plus sixteen hundred. Can we check and
see when's the last time somebody was that big of
(33:37):
a favorite during a tour event? Plus two eighty Xander
Schaffley plus sixteen hundred to win Saint Jude.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes, Tom.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
The little controversy about Rory McElroy setting this one out,
some officials not loving the fact that he's not participating.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It feels like there's an undercurrent there with Royal that
all of a sudden didn't want to talk to the media.
Just feels like all of that goodwill that he built
up and then like what's at the core of this?
And you know, maybe he feels like the PGA tour
didn't have his back because remember when he was using
an illegal driver, but Scotti Scheffler was using one as well,
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but the media focused on Rory. And I hope he
gets back to doing interviews because I've always said he's
one of my favorite interviews because he does think about
every question you ask, even if he's heard that question
ten times, he will give you an answer and I
always appreciate that. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on
(34:40):
your mind?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (34:44):
With Micah Parsons holding out and the smelling salts, NFL
no longer providing them, Jerry Jones just installed a blockbuster
in the room to get the boys fired up like
it's the Glory Days.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Thank you, Thank you. David.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Virginia, Hi, Pat, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Good morning, Dan. I had a question for.
Speaker 12 (35:07):
Your journalism. Is that with the merger of the NFL
and ESPN. I was told that the equity part goes
divided by the owners. How do they monetize that to
put that into the salary cap?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
They don't put it in the salary cap. I don't
think the players get that equity with ESPN and NFL Network.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Or NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, I'm guessing the CBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. We'll have
something to say about that. But Mike Florio brought that
up yesterday. They're getting ten percent of ESPN. I think
the owners are getting ten percent of ESPN. Shuffles in
Phoenix High Shuffles.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Good morning, Dan, and I'm calling in. I'm doing my
own journalistic advanced work here and also contracts because back
in I think May you had Adam silver On. Do
you remember that conversation with.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Adam Uh specifically what part of the conversation.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
The part where you told Adam that you have three
years to go, which means you're going to be gone
to roughly May of twenty twenty eight, and you said
it on the air, which I think is a binding context.
You have to do it. I think can bring it
up because you told Adam like not once, not twice,
but thrice. Adam I have three years left. I was
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rejoicing because I figured you are going to stick around
longer than we anticipate. And that's that's actually evidence of it.
The otherst thing I wanted to bring up is you
and Marvin always disparage the Arizona Wildcats, and I wanted
to see if you guys would be willing to do
a pie of the face coming up because Connecticut and
Arizona are going to be playing for the next two
years during the regular season. So I wanted to throw
(36:55):
it down a gauntlet on Connecticut Arizona. I take Arizona.
You guys can take Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'm not back in Connecticut. I didn't go there, and
that's Marvin's alma mater and shuffles. I think you have
to admit Arizona kind of finds the banana peel in basketball, right.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
I disagree. We should have three national jackets, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I was there when you won your national championship. Yeah,
I mean I should have six Emmys, but I don't
have any. Not with the show. I was good friends
with loud Olsen and his wife.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was there. Yes, Marvin, I will take that.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, you got it. Shuffles. Marvin will take the VET
each of the next two years.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Yep, yes, and we you guys don't go to the
final four. Don't make any more excuses. Wow, shots, love it.
Thank you, thank you, shuffles, thank you. I misspoke. I
guess with the commissioner. I was working for three more years.
It's the Super Bowl in Atlanta. That's we should do
a countdown. We have a countdown. I didn't know it
(38:05):
was that funny. Yeah see, yeah, maybe we.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Could start that clock once the NFL season starts. We
could start the Dan retires clock.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
We got twenty eight days, nine hours, twenty eight minutes,
and twenty six seconds before the start of.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
The NFL season.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Uh, Mikayla in Missouri. Hopefully I got that name correct.
Speaker 13 (38:25):
Yes, hey, Dan, I'm flying out to youself for college
in a few weeks with my dad. His name's Bill,
and I've been listening to your show for as long
as I can remember. With my dad, we're going to
drive out there and call you during your drive. We
decided to fly last minute, so I decided to call
in and surprise my dad. So my question is what
advice do you have for my dad? As he dropped
me off at college.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay, he's got to stay strong because he's got confidence
in you, Mikayla, that you are a woman who's ready
for the big challenge now of going to college and
you're going to make everybody proud, and that he should
have full confidence in you. It's emotional because you'll miss
seeing you every day. Nothing wrong with crying. I did
(39:05):
with all of my kids when they went to school.
But I also had confidence in them and told them
I had confidence in them that make wise choices. Make
sure that you get the partying out of the way,
understand what's going to happen, and then you got to
be disciplined there because you can't say, hey, don't party
because you will. The question is when do you stop
(39:28):
and then get serious about school? That tell dad stay strong,
look you in the eye, tell him that he loves you,
and tell him that you love him. And can I
have some money dad? I think those would be the
important things. Thank you, Good luck, Mikayla. It's Mikayla Missouri.
(39:50):
Going to school.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was always tough. My wife would say, stay strong,
stay strong.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You know what, maybe crime When I saw the bills
for how much it costs to send them to school.
Mike in La, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Hey? Guys native Cincinnati and enjoyed the Tucker interview. He
sounds exactly what he might go with. To me, if
I close my eye, it would where it was Mike
go with. But you know them two better than you,
but it really baffled me. Hey, the other day you
mentioned the greaterst thing it did. It was founded in
Cincinnati in eighteen seventy. But the really best ice cream
(40:30):
place is called Aguamisi Brothers, which isn't nearly as the
gotn't have a note variety, but it's sound in Oakley,
it's really really good. You were talking to Ross Dan
about the smelling salts and the and the substances. Was
there ever any talk of Jamar Hamlin's cardiac arrest, that
there was any type of thing like that involved.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, I didn't see that, but you know it was
where he was hit. It was a you know, it
was a fluke hit. Was that T Higgins? And just
where it hit him stopped his heart?
Speaker 6 (41:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Coming up? Who is more Hall of Faming? Paul will
give us two candidates and we'll decide final hour in
this Thursday, back after this
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