September 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan talks about tonight’s TNF action where Commanders’ quarterback Jayden Daniels is looking to continue his 2024 season success as they take on the Packers. Former NFL quarterback Derek Carr stops by to talk about his new broadcasting responsibilities breaking down NFL tape and what he’s seen from Week 1 quarterback play. Pablo Torre has more information on the continuing scandal around the Los Angeles Clippers.
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the poll question, at least the first hour poll question.
He is going to Kansas City, taking the First Thing's
First Show to Kansas City, and he's been invited to
the fifteen eighty seven restaurant Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelce
And I was wondering which table would you sit if
you could sit with Patrick Mahomes in family or Travis
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Kelcey in family? And what's the updated poll results?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Seaton updated poll results we got right now? Whose table
would you sit at for dinner? Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey has jumped up to a sizeable lead, not
sixty six percent right now?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, that's the right answer. Yeah, I mean that's a
better story to tell. This is all about content. I mean,
Trick Mahomes, you know, tell me again, you know about
you know, winning Super Bowls or the look you know,
no look past all right, Kelsey, I got things to
talk to him about. I don't know, it's okay or
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Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Oh, a couple of beers and Andy Reid. That seems
like fun.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would probably go Kelsey, Andy Reid than Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That George Carl loftis is a wild time out. Well
you know that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Don't sleep on Isaiah Pacheco. You know, Chris Jones might
be entertaining. Yeah he can eat, Yeah, he might be entertaining.
All right, So it's a meet Thursday here. More phone
calls coming up, and what's the poll question for hour two? Seton?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Just put up there currently the hottest bandwagon in the NFL.
Polly sent this one over Chargers Commander's Packers other. Okay,
right now, the Packers have about sixty percent of that
vote as well.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I thought there'd be a few folks with that
Chargers bandwagon. They're in second. Yeah, well we've been burned before.
Slightly ahead of the Commanders. It's really neck and neck,
and we got football coming up tonight. Salute the Commanders.
The Commanders are getting three and a half at the
Packers the over under his forty eight and a half.
Case you're wondering, let's see anytime score, who has the
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best odds to score first? Which player? If you said
Josh Jacobs, you would be correct, and then Terry McLaurin, Debo,
Jade and Daniels. Yeah, so that's a fun Thursday night there,
fun Thursday night. We get some phone calls in here,
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and Derek Carr once again we'll join us. David Carr
was with us yesterday, did a great job. And Derek
Carr has been doing some analysis on YouTube breaking down
some games and by all accounts, is got a bright future. Yes, Paul,
you guys notice and redune it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
But like when we have quarterbacks on this show, we
have David Carr on yesterday, we had Mark Sanchez, we
have quarterbacks on a lot. It's like they have their
own language and it's tough for us as somewhat civilians
to learn. They use different phrases that are just you
learn them over time, but it takes a while to
learn their language.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, they do have their own language. They have to
have their own language. But if you're going to be
an analyst, you've got to make sure that and dumb
it down is probably not the best description, but I
think you got to make it so the audience can
understand this. Troy Aikman does a very good job. You know,
you have certain analysts that they're speaking above you, and
(04:37):
I would tell any of these analysts you got to
speak to you know, a large, large group of people,
not just people who play football, played the position. You
got to talk to everybody so they know exactly what
that is. And I got to be honest, David Carr
gave me a couple of expressions terms yesterday and I thought,
(04:58):
I'm not even going to bring it up, and I
just thought, you know what, maybe another day. But they do.
They have their own little language, their own little fraternity
that they're bringing things up, especially the quarterbacks. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think Orlowsky does a good job of both being
with really good terminology. But he explains that he was
showing a few different bad plays in the NFL and
he explained, this is on the receiver. The receiver ran
this route and that wasn't the right way, and you're like, oh,
you understand better. I think Smoltz does the same thing
in baseball. He paints a picture and explains things that
a civilian can't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I think it started with Tim McCarver. I thought McCarver
was really good. Then probably got too good at giving
you a tell you and then he would give you
the inner workings of a play. But I'm always amazed
at football analyst uh Herb Street, when you know he's
doing a game and all of a sudden they're gonna
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He's got like twenty seconds to then get ready and
tell you what happened on the play. And that, to me,
that's where you make your money. That you know the
why part of a play and to be able to
do it really really quick. That's a short list of
those who can do it really really well. Yeah. See,
that's why I love Troy Aikman.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
In you know seven words, he could tell you exactly
what happened in that play. He's so quick, almost immediately
and an immediately digestible, understandable if you're not somebody who's
ever played or whatever, he can just break down a
play quickly and concisely.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think he's great. And you know, when you have
these analysts and they're up top, they can be looking
at the monitor, but really you want to be looking
at the field from above because it shows you more
like you can take a snapshot of this is where
everybody was when the ball was snapped, and then what
happens and then you can go back. Now you have
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to put that together. You got to dissect it, put
it together, and do it in twenty or thirty seconds
and plus analysts, And I would say this to any analyst,
ask for advice. The further you get away from the game,
the more dangerous it is for you. And by that
I mean Derek Carr played last year. He knows everybody,
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he knows what is the terminology now it's you know,
guys like Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth, Troy. The further you
get away, the more you have to study, you have
to know personnel, you have to you know, it's almost
like you have to put in more time because the
other part, when you just got out of the game,
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it's really easy. You got to put more time in
the further away from the game that you get because
you got to get numbers, You got to get names.
You can't give me numbers personnel, defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator,
all of those things. And I would tell analysts and
even when I was at Football Night in America, Tony
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and Rodney had been away from the game for a
while and it was incumbent upon them that they had
to know who's now, what's now, what's the hot offense, termina,
all of those things. And you got to put in
the time that if you want to continue to do
that job at a very high level. All right, A
couple of phone calls Keith and Chico.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Hi Keith, Good morning guys.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Just a couple of questions.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Earlier. You're talking about moral victories when a team loses.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Find that to the game tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
The Commanders lose the close game, will you consider that
a moral victory?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
My second question, if the Commanders win in commanding fashion,
would you consider them the top team in the NFC?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Thanks for everything, guys, God blessed America.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Thank you, Keith. It's the Eagles until they lose. But
this would be a huge, huge win for the Commanders
considering how they won last year. You go into Green
Bay and you beat green Bay there, that's a big
that's a signature win there. But I don't think it
would be a moral victory. If you go in there
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and you play it close. You're the Commanders, you're expecting
to go to the super Bowl. This isn't about I'm
talking about the Jets with a moral victory or the
Browns with a moral victory. Dan in Ohio, Hi, Dan,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Dan? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Thanks for calling me back.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
I just wanted to say something about nine to eleven.
I didn't have a TV at the time. My best
friend and I were living in a department in Bilbo,
Ohio and we got a phone call to let us
know what was going on, and it was it was
a trip. It was a trip.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it was twenty four years ago this morning.
And some people have asked, you know, what happened to
your brothers in law? They didn't get too they it
was called the pile after you know, the the fire department.
Firefighters would call it. They went to work for the pile.
They would be there for three months, and you know,
(10:03):
they've come across things that you shouldn't come across bodies,
but they couldn't get one couldn't get through the battery
tunnel and the other one had problems. He was in rehab.
He had been hurt on the job as a firefighter,
and they wouldn't let him out to go over to
(10:25):
the World Trade Center to that site. But they would
go to funerals. They were trying to represent the firefighters
for all of these people who died, and they would
ask firefighters to go to funerals and they're people that
they didn't even know. They wanted to make sure that
there was some kind of representation from the firefighters and
(10:49):
to be around all of the firefighters really from around
the country. It's not just the New York you know
the five boroughs. You had firefighters who came in from
all over and amazing like they talk about a brotherhood
and then you see it in real time. But they
were going to funerals. They'd go to two or three
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funerals a day, and then they would be working at
the World Trade Center. Uh, twenty four years ago. Let's
see Kevin in Texas. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (11:22):
AVP has a great story about your in laws in
the worst transition. I'm going to try to lighten the
mood here a little bit. Sports semiwise, you know, I'm
guessing in Sochi we had Costas listed on the injury
report as doubtful. With Pink guy, you were probably probable
(11:42):
with flu like symptoms. Now, if you had to go
through the dan as, obviously we'd have Pauli likely with
a left eye. But could you imagine how big and
you can't remember you can't cheat and leave something off,
how Todd's injury report would list and what that would look.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Like Todd would be, what'sn't Brady on the injury list?
Every single week? With the Patriots his shoulder, Todd would
be on the injured list. Hey, you know a variety
of things, brock Purty, it's toe and shoulder. Yours would
be foot. Uh, your elbow? Did you get hurt and
(12:20):
whiffle ball?
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Yeah, there's the elbow. I got the uh planter fasciitis. Yeah,
got their gastro intestino backer.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
It's very frustrated. Every time I go to a doctor appointment,
they go through all the stuff on your pages of
stuff on the computer screen. Are you still taking this medication?
Do you still have this and that? And you're already
like twenty minutes in and haven't even examined you yet.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Michael in Chicago, Hi Mike, what's on your mind today?
Hey Mike Jordan in Indiana, Hi Jordan.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
As a going Dan, thanks for taking my call first time,
five eleven, two hundred.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
So two quick things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You were talking about the shames earlier.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
My mom had shingles when I was like ten years old.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Not a good time for me because she made me
put the ointment on her.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Back to I'm glad you got this. I'm glad you
got the vaccine. But also as an Indiana sports fan,
this year definitely test your patience and makes you wonder
why you like sports. Between going to the finals on
a miracle season and then Halli Burton goes down and
then Anthony Ridgarson goes out, and then Daniel Jones surprises
with a big Week one win. If he beats the
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Broncos this Sunday, the sky is the limit.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So alrighty, all right, thank you Jordan. Yeah, I went
and got these shingles shot yesterday along with the flu
shot and the COVID shot. I did the three pete right. Yeah,
I'm a tough guy in there, and man did it
hit me. I got I got flu like symptoms. And
Marvin accurately pointed out that this could be my flu game,
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just like Michael Jordan. Maybe this is the day. This
is the show.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
A lot of people pray.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, thoughts and prayers for me. I'm going to be
but I'm doing okay, Like in the energy of the show.
And you were moving at a glacial ice.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well we didn't hear you walk in, and I heard
this little shuffle next to me.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I know. I said, I'm in trouble here.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Yes, you're not really a complainer you may refer to
certain things you're going through, but you're not one to,
you know, let it bother you or just whine about it.
So I respect that as someone who complains often about
every little now that takes a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, that's a reminder for me not to complain. And
why dude don't do is I don't be Todd. Don't
be a Todd.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
You're a tough guy.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's no. But you know, I appreciate the support that
I get in this building and the fact that Dylan
has got some steaks out there. I'm gonna feel a
little bit better there. So we'll talk some football. We'll
talk to Derek carr Hill join us coming up next.
Nick Wright from Fox Sports will join us a little
bit later on as well. We'll take a break hour
(14:59):
two Dan Patrick Show. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:53):
More phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP
show Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. That's our
streaming part here. Derek Carr, former NFL quarterback and now
a YouTube Sensation pre and postgame studio analysts along with
Brandon Marshall and Tyron Matthew and they did the Chiefs Chargers. Hey,
(16:15):
the reviews were really good. How comfortable did you feel
as an analyst?
Speaker 13 (16:20):
You know, it's funny, it was it was just easy
because I got to break down film. I was like,
I've been doing this for twenty years, and so I
was like, don't make me get on here and talk
a whole bunch, just me let me do. Let me
do some film.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But you know that's the thing breaking it down, but
then you're able to give it to us so we
understand what's going on because your language, quarterbacks language and
terminology like sometimes even your brother yesterday when we had
him on, he's telling me things. I go, I'm not
even going to interrupt. I have no idea what he's
talking about.
Speaker 13 (16:51):
One hundred percent, And so I've always I was just
trying and keep it simple. Yes, I could get into
so many details and hours of breakdown and all this stuff,
but for me, it was just like, how do I
make it entertaining? And I learned from the best coach.
Gruden was like that every day, and so the way
he would present film and present information, he's the best
presenter of information I was ever around. So I just
(17:12):
tried to, you know, mimic what he did and it
kind of worked out.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What stood out when you broke down the Chiefs Chargers,
you know what really.
Speaker 13 (17:19):
Stood out to me was was Herbert Like every time
I would watch it, because I know the Chiefs defense
and I know Pat Pat is one of the greatest
to ever play the game. It's really fun to watch
what they've been able to do. Whether people are hurt
or not hurt. But when I watch Herbert, he's been
so consistent, and I know that feeling where you're you're
on a team that keeps switching coaches on you, that
keep doing this. It reminds me of when coach Gruden
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showed up, and I hope that they get to stay
together longer than I got to stay with Grew because
we were starting to take off. And so when I
watch him, he's just so consistent, so accurate, and he's
so tall he sees everything and so he's rarely fooled,
which is really really a luxury.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You start to look at these quarterbacks and we see
young quarterbacks make the same mistakes because in college you
get to hold onto the ball a little longer, players
stay open a little bit longer. There they try to
scramble out of trouble there. Why why is that that
they keep it? You know it's new quarterbacks, but it's
the same mistakes.
Speaker 13 (18:17):
There's there's no there's no recipe for you know, you
can I'll say this one. You can train them as
much you want. When you have a red jersey on
during OTA's and training camp and all that. It gets
a little different when you get to practice or the
real games. You know that it's just there's no substitute
for experience. And so I saw, you know, we saw
cam Ward take a red zone sack and then get
sacked again, and he's trying to outrun people. And I mean,
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you find out real quick that the defensive tackles are
faster than you, you know, and so you know, it's tough, man,
And like you said, you hit it on the head.
The game is so fast, so it doesn't matter what
level at college you play. The speed of the game
four quarterbacks, it just happens faster. But you know, like
like you said, it takes guys, hopefully a shorter amount
of time because our our leash with quarter back nowadays
(19:00):
is so short. It's not like the old days where
they give you time to grow and all that. But
hopefully these guys can figure it out soon. And it
looks like they will. It looks like a good batch
of young guys.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But you know, they talk about climbing up in the pocket,
and and that takes like you got to have guts
like it, you know, because it's chaos around you. But
these guys don't want to climb up in the pocket.
They want to try to dance around and get out
of trouble. But what is that feeling like. I mean,
that's the ultimate. I'm trusting my offensive lineman that I
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won't get crushed.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
One hundred percent. I remember there was a year we
started two rookie tackles and in the NFL, that's a
that's a that's a big deal. And I remember Gruden
said to me, he said, look, it's gonna be it's
gonna be rough, but when you hit that backfoot, I
want you to climb and I want you to find
a completion. And in it, man, it trained me in
such a way that you have to hit that backfoot.
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You just got to make a decision really as a man,
say I'm going forward, you know, because everything that we've
been in the old in US is like if something's
coming at me, I gotta get away from it. But
you got to go forward, you gotta climb. And you know,
for me, that was one of the biggest learning moments
was playing with two young tackles, you know, the teaching them,
hey let them run by lose one way, just don't
lose inside. And we were able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I didn't know you did a John Gruden impersonation.
Speaker 13 (20:20):
Honestly, everybody on those teams on offense can do it.
Foster Moreau, Waller Hunter where everyone has a little maybe
we don't match it perfectly, but the tone, the cadence,
like we can all hit one part of it identically.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
What's the tone that you hit?
Speaker 13 (20:35):
Oh Man? For me, it was always he would always
look at me, So you'll love this, Dan. We're in
a meeting and he would always tell me, Derek, I
want completions. I want completions. I want completions. So we're
in a team meeting and he says, eight, Car, I
want them what And I said, I want completions. He goes, no,
I want communication.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Idiot, idiot, idiot.
Speaker 13 (20:59):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Derek and David Carr have a new podcast called Homegrown
features both of the brothers discussing NFL college, high school football.
For me quarterbacks perspective. He said that he had fun
with you about the Brady coming through Las Vegas to
want to play for the Raiders and singling you out
of you're going to stay with this guy? Did you
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have fun with that?
Speaker 13 (21:24):
Oh? I did, And I'd be completely honest Dan, I had.
I had about one hundred different funny things to say.
I couldn't help myself, but I just felt like when
I woke up this morning, like it just hit me,
like with everything that happened yesterday, not to get weird,
I was like, man, it's not even worth saying any
of them. Man, I just want to love him. You know.
I could make a singer and be funny about it,
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but like you know, I just with everything have me yesterday,
It's just on my heart just to love everybody no
matter what, you know. And I have none but love
for Tom. He knows that. You know. We've talked, you know,
many times, so we did have fun though we did
as brothers do you know, with those kind of things.
But yeah, man, I just I just love on him,
you know, because I already knew I'd make some joke
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and someone wouldn't put the whole context on it and
it'd be a thing, but you know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We want to come up with a stat RCI receiver
caused interception, yes, right, because not all interceptions are made
the same way.
Speaker 13 (22:19):
One, you know, and you would have to put a
quarterback in charge of that because you know, there there
are times that it is our fault. Absolutely, And but
there are times where you throw a shallow cross it
bounces off someone's hands and you're like, what the heck?
I remember? I remember I threw a pick. It was
man coverage receiver didn't see it, you know, and he
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stops and I go to throw the shallow cross like
it's man in the corner keeps running and picks it off,
and I was like, it's ah, man, you got to
keep running, you know. But no one knew. And obviously
you get booed and all those kind of things, which
is fine.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How do you walk away from thirty million dollars?
Speaker 13 (22:55):
Oh my goodness, it wasn't easy, I promise you know.
Uh it's easy to make a comment and just say, yeah,
it is what it is. But it wasn't. It was hard.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was really when you talk to your wife, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
When I when when I talked to my wife, you know,
she she would she was ready for me to be
done whenever I was ready. You know that, she's amazing.
She would. She she saw honestly, things that no one
else saw, you know, waking up on Monday mornings and
I can't walk, you know, waking up on Monday mornings,
and I have to call her to come in the
room to help me get out of bed, you know, like,
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so she she was done. She was she was like,
I'm good. You know, eleven years is enough. But for
me as a competitor and my love, Honestly, Dan, I
love the game so much. I just love football. I
think it's great for characters. I think it's great for everybody.
I think it's team, it's unity, it's all the things
I believe in. But to say no to the money
part of it, I had to. I had to die
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to myself on that one, you know, like I had
to be like, you know, what is what's the right
thing to do all that? Because on the inside you're like,
well it's easy. I just make that money and go.
But it just wasn't right because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What's it like to be home this time of the year.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
It's been really weird.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
You know.
Speaker 13 (24:03):
Wednesdays in the NFL are the longest days, and for
a quarterback is really every day. But you know, Wednesdays,
I'm going on dates with my wife. She said, you
want to go on the day. He's like, yeah, let's go.
It's Wednesday, you know, And that's that's a that's a
first for us in a long time, and so it's
been fun.
Speaker 14 (24:18):
Though.
Speaker 13 (24:18):
I laid on my couch and my agent text me.
He's like, how you feeling. I said, I feel great.
I'm not getting hit. So it was good.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, but will there be a temptation?
Speaker 13 (24:27):
Yeah? You know who my biggest temptation is is David.
Every every single day, he's like, text me, you see this,
you see this, you know this? You know this guy? Hey,
guess who texts me? You know he does? He doesn't.
He said, So we're gonna sit down. I said. He said,
we're gonna sit down and Thanksgiving. I said, bro, I'm retired.
He said, at least give me Thanksgiving to try and
convince you. So he's he's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
There's no scenario where you'd come back.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
I wouldn't say never because I've learned that when I
say never, it usually happens. And I think we've all
probably learned that. So for me, right now, I'm training
because I love to train, like that's gonna be the
rest of my life. I love to train. I throw
football every now and then out in the front with
my kids into my buddy. You know, for fun, because
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it's part of my rehab still for my shoulder. You know,
I'm still just trying to get that back right from
getting the shot and doing the rehab and all that,
and so I'm still doing those things. And so I
always felt like, even though I'm done, like, you know,
if God wanted me to do it, I gotta be ready.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
You know.
Speaker 13 (25:26):
I don't want to go out there and not be ready.
You know, So I'll be ready. But I'm not coming
back like right now today, I'm not coming back.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You're only thirty four.
Speaker 13 (25:36):
I am thirty five. I got a lot of life,
and I got a big job. I got coach the
fourth rough sixth grade Clovis Christian Warriors, you know what
I mean. So I'm committed to them right now.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Are they looking this year? Derek?
Speaker 13 (25:47):
They're doing good. I'm out there yelling at my kids.
He put one of them plays quarterback to the other places receiver.
So I imitate Groodon a lot to them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The two quarterbacks tonight, break them down from what you've seen.
Speaker 13 (26:00):
You know, I'm really interested. This is the this is
what it's gonna come down to. Thursday night football, right,
Thursday Night football to me, has always been the test
of who can get the healthiest and who can take
care of the football. And I think both can and
if I'm honest, like I truly believe in them, and
so I feel like it always comes down to a
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receiver or a tied end in my experience, I'll never
forget you call it play and you you thought it
was last week's play, but you get, you get it
screwed up. And it's those little details Treatman talks about
all the time. On Monday Night, He's like, it's those
little details that no one else will see. If they
can take care of the football, that's the only chance
that they have, because in Thursday night football, there's it's
there's it's usually a mess. I think we've all seen
(26:45):
that as players. We hated Thursdays, but you know, it
is what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But have you ever gone to the line of scrimmage
and called to play that was from the previous team
that you were with?
Speaker 13 (26:58):
Oh, especially right when you first like get into it,
like I promise you, Like you get in the huddle
and you're like, hey, we're gonna go. You know, let's
go dice right? Three fifty eight cannon Cannas and then
you're like hey, and then you say like on the quick,
and everyone's like everyone will look at you, like what
do you mean? On the quick? You know, it's like, oh, sorry,
wrong offense, wrong offense, especially on a Thursday, because it's
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all cramon in your mind. Luckily, for Luckily, for Jaden
and Jordan, this is the only offenses that they know,
and so they'll be Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Did Peyton ruin it for all quarterbacks? Because now everybody's
expected to go to the line of scrimmage and you know,
change the play, call the play.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
You know, when I watched Peyton, that's who I wanted
to be, honestly, like I Peyton knows this. I used
to go to the stadium early when my brother would
play him, and I would watch him throw to Marvin
and Reggie and Dallash Clark and those guys, and and like,
growing up, I thought, I still believe that's the best
way to play football. The coach. The coach is making
estimated guests based on on study and film and what
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they know about these people at the defense corners. But
the quarterback gets to see the tests right in front
of it. So if you can train the quarterback that way,
So did he ruin it? I wouldn't say he ruined it,
but that's how the game I believe supposed to be played.
But now with the CBA, these coaches don't even have
time to teach the game like we did. Like it's
just it's so different. So now it's just flash cards. Hey,
remember this flash card and go do it at the
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best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Good luck with the YouTube stuff, good luck with the
podcast with your brother, and good luck in retirement.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
Oh thank you, Dan, I appreciate. It's always good to
talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's Derek Carr. He played eleven seasons. He's only thirty
four YouTube pre and postgame studio analyst, and he was
there Friday night with the Chiefs and the Chargers, and
he walked away from thirty million dollars with the sinks.
Russell in Las Vegas. Hi, Russ, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
How's it going you guys?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Great?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey, listen. I was gonna call in to give you
my best and worst, but I'm just gonna give you
the best, which was the Bills win, and the worst
is the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
My point is.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
That these are professional athletes. These are a million dollars personnel, right,
I don't think they should step off the playing field
to go tunt the the away fans, uh and then
run around the inner lining of the stadium. I don't
think they should do that. I think the NFL should
step in, especially now, because they're doing things overseas where
(29:35):
there's a different let's say, there's a different attitude of
how to handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Just because you go close to the stands, that's not
a green light for somebody to smack you. Russell.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, I understand it, but I understand it. But
you're you're going run to the stands. Come on, even hockey.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, they were running past the stands. Look, Lamar has
said that he never should have done it. But you're not.
You're not saying anything about this fan. Oh they're coming
close to me. I get to smack you in the helmet.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Well, why is the NFL not stepping into the guide
the players to stop him from doing that behavior versus Oh, okay,
if you're in the end zone, you make it. You're
a wide receiver, you make a fantastic catch, fantastic catch,
and you have one too many pelvic plumps. Not a
fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, I'm not sure why you're so bothered by this.
I don't know how many times somebody goes up to
the stands unless it's a Lambeau leap. But you're seeing
something different than I am. Russell. Thank you for the
phone call, Jesse and Kansas. Hi, Jess, what's on your mind?
(30:46):
I got a bad connection there, Jess. Rob in Orange County,
Hi Rob, mister Dan.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes? I can.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
Hey Dan, Nice to meet too.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Dan. That's I've talked before. And I just want to
say this. You're talking about Davy Johnson. He was at
my house in Santa Luis and my father in law
was the caddy for him. How do I say the
best way? I think it's Sam Humphrey's invitational and we
(31:23):
became good friends and the humility of Batman was an
awesome man and it's the same as you, Dan, And
I just want to say that I I I respect
the man so much and to sit down and have
(31:44):
dinner and break bread and basically loved the man. And
I'm sad to hear hear it in your voice.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Rob. Thank you. Yeah. Davy Johnson. I was there with
the eighty six months I didn't really know him, but
he play in a golf tournament and he went to
a children's hospital. He I asked all the players if
anybody could go, and Davey went, and Davy spent a
couple hours there. I never forgot that, all the things,
(32:15):
all the other stuff that he did, that's what always
stands out. And he just passed away l Loo in California.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Hey, let's go down.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
How's it going.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Hey, just want to get your thoughts on that new
development or the Kowhai story about that Aspire company being
like one point seven Milo short and then Steve Balmer
came in and saved the day. He gave a one
point nine a million donations.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, it doesn't look good. It doesn't. Now, I don't
know how you know how hard Adam Silver is going
to come down on the Clippers. In fact, when we
come back, I'll play a little bit of Adam Silver's
press conference. He did talk about this. It just it doesn't.
I mean, it adds up, literally adds up. But that's
the reason why I have a problem with this. The
(33:04):
numbers add up to Kawhi getting this, and I still don't.
I don't understand what Mark Cuban's saying when he was
on with Pablo Torri talking about, Hey, do you think
Steve Balmer is you know, stupid that he wouldn't make
sure that that company didn't go bankrupt, so you would
be he would be exposed to his creditors. So you're
(33:29):
saying that he would cover up something like this is
what I would say to Mark Cuban, that he wouldn't
let this happen because he would fix this, So then
he would cover up a salary cap circumvention. I don't know,
I don't know. Pablo has some more information as well,
(33:49):
but we'll play the commissioner's comments about the Clippers situation
after this.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
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Speaker 2 (34:06):
Live Kawhi Leonard's story with the Clippers not going away quietly.
Pablo Torre has some more information a follow up, and
he talked about Clippers minority owner Dennis Wong made almost
two million dollar investment in this company, which then paid
Kawhi Leonard one point seven to five million as required
(34:28):
through his endorsement contract with the environmental company. This according
to Pablo Torre in his podcast Pablo Tory finds out
you just start to look at the numbers and they
kind of match up with the money. A lot of
smoke there. Here's the commissioner, Adam Silver talking about the investigation.
Speaker 14 (34:50):
The burden is on the league if we're going to
discipline a team, an owner, a player, or in any
of the constituents members of the league. I think, as
a matter of fundamental fairness, I would be reluctant to
act if there was sort of a mere appearance of impropriety.
I think the goal of a full investigation is to
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find that if there really was impropriety.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
The public at times.
Speaker 14 (35:15):
Reaches conclusions that later turn out to be completely false,
and so I do would want anybody else in situation
mister Bomber is in now, or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,
to be treated the same way I would want to
be treated if people were making allegations against me.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
All right, Commissioner of you talked to Steve Balmer, Commissioner
of you talked to Kawhi Leonard. Commissioner, have you talked
to Pablo tore commissioner, do you have access to the
same information that Pablo Torre does? Still driving that trusty
old ride. Keep it looking sharp with Mako from dense
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(35:52):
Oh better get Mako. This may have been going on,
Maybe it goes on a lot more than we know.
Maybe we're just being naive, but this one, we're going
to pay you off the books to circumvent the salary cap.
And somebody on record in that company saying that's what
(36:13):
happened with this money, seven different sources. You got three
thousand pages of documents, so there's something here. And I
would ask the commissioner, what is your next move? What
are you going to do? Because he's got to protect
all the other owners, and what are the other owners think?
Are other owners doing this? Like, Hey, we got you
(36:35):
a job over here, but it's not really a job,
and we're going to pay you this.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, Paulin, I know we're a long way from punishment
for the Clippers, if any, but they don't have a
twenty twenty six first round draft pick. They don't have
a twenty twenty eight first round draft, so the cupboard
is a bit bare. Already.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Steph Curry was on the Today Show in NBC. NBC
of course is going to be bringing you the NBA
coming up this season, and Steph talked about today's NBA players.
Speaker 15 (37:03):
I was also about wise man when I was getting
into the league, like, you want to leave the league
in a better place than when you found it. And
I think just the way that you see the skill
level right now, the way that the range just kind
of taken over and got to shooting threes all over
the court, but just from one through five and all
the way down the ross, I think this is the
most skilled, you know, era of basketball history. And so
(37:25):
whether that was you know, young kids in the game
now seeing you know, my generation the way that I
play and getting inspired by that like that for me
is important and something I don't take for granted.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that one through five. What
we ask big men to do, what big men are
allowed to do. Now that they can take their game
out three point range, they can also be inside the
ability to run the floor, handle the ball, and then
you have the other players the ability to make shots,
(37:58):
tough shots. It's pretty amazing. So skill level, yeah, I'm
not so, I mean that's I'd be surprised if he,
you know, said something different. They had, Yes, one through five,
it's as skilled as it's ever been. You can watch
you know, the NBA, and you can watch and you
could see that there were players who played, players who
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started and they weren't you know, high skill level guys.
You could still get away with a guy who was
going to be banging around, you know, physical guy and enforcer.
You don't really have that now. I mean, you got
guys if something happens, then I got an enforcer. But
you know, back in the eighties and nineties, felt like
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every team had an enforcer. You know, something's gonna happen
to the star player. Hey, you're gonna knock down Jordan,
Charles Oakley wants to see you. You know, you would
just have that. But skilled positions one through five. Yeah, amazing,
But Steph made it look too easy and it's not.
Speaker 16 (39:02):
Yes, marm Yeah, this isn't a very like, this isn't
a hot take it all. No, like, it's the evolution
of the game. Because you would say that about any sport,
not any sport, but you say about the NFL also,
these guys might be better than they were before. How
many guys in the eighties of their nineties can do
what Kyrie can do. That's the first guy I think of,
or even Kevin Durant. You talk about guys. If Kevin
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Durant played in the nineties, there's no way he's out
there to three point line. They would say, get in
the post. Oh yeah, what are you doing facing up dribbling? Yes,
get down there and working at low post.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Moves and big men would not be out eighteen feet away.
They'd be like, get down there, get down on the
low post. Yeah, Paul, if you.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Want to play a little Devil's advocate to what Steph said,
could you make the case that the main skill these
days is outside shooting, which everyone can do, but the
other skills like driving to the basket or posting up
is a skill that's gone away quite a bit. And
that was if you say multi skilled athletes shooting outside
is a great skill and never could do it. But
(40:00):
I don't know if they drive to the basket like
they used to or post up like they used to.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Well, the game is begging you to drive to the
basket or mid range jumpers. But you know, the analytics
say don't. I still don't understand that when guys are
one for nine from three point range and I see
go to the hoop, get fouled, shoot some free throws,
get somebody in foul trouble, and it'll change, Mark my words,
(40:24):
it'll change. Somebody's approach is going to be. You've got
to deal with us inside. You got to deal with
us down low, and you'll still have you know, the
requisite three point shooter or a couple of them. But
I mean, if I had shack yal Ming these, you know, Koreem,
I'm like, let's see if you can stop us, because
nobody is geared to stop you down low, and I
(40:46):
think somebody is going to be Not everybody's going to
be built like Victor wemben Yama. You're gonna get guys
who were still big men. Yes, Marv, but we see
that now with the Joker. The Joker he can do
all that stuff where he the ball almost like a
water polo player, but there's plenty of times where he
gets old school back you down and he's got great
touch around the basket where nobody can do anything with
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him because these guys aren't built to defending them posts well,
it's like Luca as well. I mean, Luca can shoot
the three, but Luca does get to the hoop. Luca
gets in the lane, lob passes, and he's physical. These
guys are big guys. Two hours in the books. On
this Thursday, our good buddy Nick Wright set to go
(41:31):
to Kansas City, gonna go see the game, but also
the steakhouse Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes are opening up,
So findal hour on the way. After this
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later on this hour. Nick Wright. Nick writes responsible for
(01:12):
the poll question, at least the first hour poll question.
He is going to Kansas City, taking the First Thing's
First Show to Kansas City, and he's been invited to
the fifteen eighty seven restaurant Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelce
And I was wondering which table would you sit if
you could sit with Patrick Mahomes in family or Travis
(01:35):
Kelcey in family? And what's the updated poll results?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Seaton updated poll results we got right now? Whose table
would you sit at for dinner? Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey has jumped up to a sizeable lead, not
sixty six percent right now?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, that's the right answer. Yeah, I mean that's a
better story to tell. This is all about content. I mean,
Trick Mahomes, you know, tell me again, you know about
you know, winning Super Bowls or the look you know,
no look past all right, Kelsey, I got things to
talk to him about. I don't know, it's okay or
(02:15):
Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Oh, a couple of beers and Andy Reid. That seems
like fun.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would probably go Kelsey, Andy Reid than Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
That George Carl loftis is a wild time out. Well
you know that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Don't sleep on Isaiah Pacheco. You know, Chris Jones might
be entertaining. Yeah he can eat, Yeah, he might be entertaining.
All right, So it's a meet Thursday here. More phone
calls coming up, and what's the poll question for hour two? Seton?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Just put up there currently the hottest bandwagon in the NFL.
Polly sent this one over Chargers Commander's Packers other. Okay,
right now, the Packers have about sixty percent of that
vote as well.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I thought there'd be a few folks with that
Chargers bandwagon. They're in second. Yeah, well we've been burned before.
Slightly ahead of the Commanders. It's really neck and neck,
and we got football coming up tonight. Salute the Commanders.
The Commanders are getting three and a half at the
Packers the over under his forty eight and a half.
Case you're wondering, let's see anytime score, who has the
(03:19):
best odds to score first? Which player? If you said
Josh Jacobs, you would be correct, and then Terry McLaurin, Debo,
Jade and Daniels. Yeah, so that's a fun Thursday night there,
fun Thursday night. We get some phone calls in here,
(03:39):
and Derek Carr once again we'll join us. David Carr
was with us yesterday, did a great job. And Derek
Carr has been doing some analysis on YouTube breaking down
some games and by all accounts, is got a bright future. Yes, Paul,
you guys notice and redune it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
But like when we have quarterbacks on this show, we
have David Carr on yesterday, we had Mark Sanchez, we
have quarterbacks on a lot. It's like they have their
own language and it's tough for us as somewhat civilians
to learn. They use different phrases that are just you
learn them over time, but it takes a while to
learn their language.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, they do have their own language. They have to
have their own language. But if you're going to be
an analyst, you've got to make sure that and dumb
it down is probably not the best description, but I
think you got to make it so the audience can
understand this. Troy Aikman does a very good job. You know,
you have certain analysts that they're speaking above you, and
(04:37):
I would tell any of these analysts you got to
speak to you know, a large, large group of people,
not just people who play football, played the position. You
got to talk to everybody so they know exactly what
that is. And I got to be honest, David Carr
gave me a couple of expressions terms yesterday and I thought,
(04:58):
I'm not even going to bring it up, and I
just thought, you know what, maybe another day. But they do.
They have their own little language, their own little fraternity
that they're bringing things up, especially the quarterbacks. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think Orlowsky does a good job of both being
with really good terminology. But he explains that he was
showing a few different bad plays in the NFL and
he explained, this is on the receiver. The receiver ran
this route and that wasn't the right way, and you're like, oh,
you understand better. I think Smoltz does the same thing
in baseball. He paints a picture and explains things that
a civilian can't know.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I think it started with Tim McCarver. I thought McCarver
was really good. Then probably got too good at giving
you a tell you and then he would give you
the inner workings of a play. But I'm always amazed
at football analyst uh Herb Street, when you know he's
doing a game and all of a sudden they're gonna
(05:50):
He's got like twenty seconds to then get ready and
tell you what happened on the play. And that, to me,
that's where you make your money. That you know the
why part of a play and to be able to
do it really really quick. That's a short list of
those who can do it really really well. Yeah. See,
that's why I love Troy Aikman.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
In you know seven words, he could tell you exactly
what happened in that play. He's so quick, almost immediately
and an immediately digestible, understandable if you're not somebody who's
ever played or whatever, he can just break down a
play quickly and concisely.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think he's great. And you know, when you have
these analysts and they're up top, they can be looking
at the monitor, but really you want to be looking
at the field from above because it shows you more
like you can take a snapshot of this is where
everybody was when the ball was snapped, and then what
happens and then you can go back. Now you have
(06:50):
to put that together. You got to dissect it, put
it together, and do it in twenty or thirty seconds
and plus analysts, And I would say this to any analyst,
ask for advice. The further you get away from the game,
the more dangerous it is for you. And by that
I mean Derek Carr played last year. He knows everybody,
(07:13):
he knows what is the terminology now it's you know,
guys like Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth, Troy. The further you
get away, the more you have to study, you have
to know personnel, you have to you know, it's almost
like you have to put in more time because the
other part, when you just got out of the game,
(07:33):
it's really easy. You got to put more time in
the further away from the game that you get because
you got to get numbers, You got to get names.
You can't give me numbers personnel, defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator,
all of those things. And I would tell analysts and
even when I was at Football Night in America, Tony
(07:55):
and Rodney had been away from the game for a
while and it was incumbent upon them that they had
to know who's now, what's now, what's the hot offense, termina,
all of those things. And you got to put in
the time that if you want to continue to do
that job at a very high level. All right, A
couple of phone calls Keith and Chico.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Hi Keith, Good morning guys.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Just a couple of questions.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Earlier. You're talking about moral victories when a team loses.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Find that to the game tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
The Commanders lose the close game, will you consider that
a moral victory?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
My second question, if the Commanders win in commanding fashion,
would you consider them the top team in the NFC?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Thanks for everything, guys, God blessed America.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Thank you, Keith. It's the Eagles until they lose. But
this would be a huge, huge win for the Commanders
considering how they won last year. You go into Green
Bay and you beat green Bay there, that's a big
that's a signature win there. But I don't think it
would be a moral victory. If you go in there
(09:01):
and you play it close. You're the Commanders, you're expecting
to go to the super Bowl. This isn't about I'm
talking about the Jets with a moral victory or the
Browns with a moral victory. Dan in Ohio, Hi, Dan,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Dan? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Thanks for calling me back.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
I just wanted to say something about nine to eleven.
I didn't have a TV at the time. My best
friend and I were living in a department in Bilbo,
Ohio and we got a phone call to let us
know what was going on, and it was it was
a trip. It was a trip.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it was twenty four years ago this morning.
And some people have asked, you know, what happened to
your brothers in law? They didn't get too they it
was called the pile after you know, the the fire department.
Firefighters would call it. They went to work for the pile.
They would be there for three months, and you know,
(10:03):
they've come across things that you shouldn't come across bodies,
but they couldn't get one couldn't get through the battery
tunnel and the other one had problems. He was in rehab.
He had been hurt on the job as a firefighter,
and they wouldn't let him out to go over to
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the World Trade Center to that site. But they would
go to funerals. They were trying to represent the firefighters
for all of these people who died, and they would
ask firefighters to go to funerals and they're people that
they didn't even know. They wanted to make sure that
there was some kind of representation from the firefighters and
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to be around all of the firefighters really from around
the country. It's not just the New York you know
the five boroughs. You had firefighters who came in from
all over and amazing like they talk about a brotherhood
and then you see it in real time. But they
were going to funerals. They'd go to two or three
(11:10):
funerals a day, and then they would be working at
the World Trade Center. Uh, twenty four years ago. Let's
see Kevin in Texas. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (11:22):
AVP has a great story about your in laws in
the worst transition. I'm going to try to lighten the
mood here a little bit. Sports semiwise, you know, I'm
guessing in Sochi we had Costas listed on the injury
report as doubtful. With Pink guy, you were probably probable
(11:42):
with flu like symptoms. Now, if you had to go
through the dan as, obviously we'd have Pauli likely with
a left eye. But could you imagine how big and
you can't remember you can't cheat and leave something off,
how Todd's injury report would list and what that would look.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Like Todd would be, what'sn't Brady on the injury list?
Every single week? With the Patriots his shoulder, Todd would
be on the injured list. Hey, you know a variety
of things, brock Purty, it's toe and shoulder. Yours would
be foot. Uh, your elbow? Did you get hurt and
(12:20):
whiffle ball?
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Yeah, there's the elbow. I got the uh planter fasciitis. Yeah,
got their gastro intestino backer.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
It's very frustrated. Every time I go to a doctor appointment,
they go through all the stuff on your pages of
stuff on the computer screen. Are you still taking this medication?
Do you still have this and that? And you're already
like twenty minutes in and haven't even examined you yet.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Michael in Chicago, Hi Mike, what's on your mind today?
Hey Mike Jordan in Indiana, Hi Jordan.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
As a going Dan, thanks for taking my call first time,
five eleven, two hundred.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
So two quick things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You were talking about the shames earlier.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
My mom had shingles when I was like ten years old.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Not a good time for me because she made me
put the ointment on her.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Back to I'm glad you got this. I'm glad you
got the vaccine. But also as an Indiana sports fan,
this year definitely test your patience and makes you wonder
why you like sports. Between going to the finals on
a miracle season and then Halli Burton goes down and
then Anthony Ridgarson goes out, and then Daniel Jones surprises
with a big Week one win. If he beats the
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Broncos this Sunday, the sky is the limit.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So alrighty, all right, thank you Jordan. Yeah, I went
and got these shingles shot yesterday along with the flu
shot and the COVID shot. I did the three pete right. Yeah,
I'm a tough guy in there, and man did it
hit me. I got I got flu like symptoms. And
Marvin accurately pointed out that this could be my flu game,
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just like Michael Jordan. Maybe this is the day. This
is the show.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
A lot of people pray.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, thoughts and prayers for me. I'm going to be
but I'm doing okay, Like in the energy of the show.
And you were moving at a glacial ice.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well we didn't hear you walk in, and I heard
this little shuffle next to me.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I know. I said, I'm in trouble here.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Yes, you're not really a complainer you may refer to
certain things you're going through, but you're not one to,
you know, let it bother you or just whine about it.
So I respect that as someone who complains often about
every little now that takes a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, that's a reminder for me not to complain. And
why dude don't do is I don't be Todd. Don't
be a Todd.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
You're a tough guy.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's no. But you know, I appreciate the support that
I get in this building and the fact that Dylan
has got some steaks out there. I'm gonna feel a
little bit better there. So we'll talk some football. We'll
talk to Derek carr Hill join us coming up next.
Nick Wright from Fox Sports will join us a little
bit later on as well. We'll take a break hour
(14:59):
two Dan Patrick Show. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 12 (15:12):
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Speaker 2 (15:53):
More phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP
show Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. That's our
streaming part here. Derek Carr, former NFL quarterback and now
a YouTube Sensation pre and postgame studio analysts along with
Brandon Marshall and Tyron Matthew and they did the Chiefs Chargers. Hey,
(16:15):
the reviews were really good. How comfortable did you feel
as an analyst?
Speaker 13 (16:20):
You know, it's funny, it was it was just easy
because I got to break down film. I was like,
I've been doing this for twenty years, and so I
was like, don't make me get on here and talk
a whole bunch, just me let me do. Let me
do some film.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But you know that's the thing breaking it down, but
then you're able to give it to us so we
understand what's going on because your language, quarterbacks language and
terminology like sometimes even your brother yesterday when we had
him on, he's telling me things. I go, I'm not
even going to interrupt. I have no idea what he's
talking about.
Speaker 13 (16:51):
One hundred percent, And so I've always I was just
trying and keep it simple. Yes, I could get into
so many details and hours of breakdown and all this stuff,
but for me, it was just like, how do I
make it entertaining? And I learned from the best coach.
Gruden was like that every day, and so the way
he would present film and present information, he's the best
presenter of information I was ever around. So I just
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tried to, you know, mimic what he did and it
kind of worked out.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What stood out when you broke down the Chiefs Chargers,
you know what really.
Speaker 13 (17:19):
Stood out to me was was Herbert Like every time
I would watch it, because I know the Chiefs defense
and I know Pat Pat is one of the greatest
to ever play the game. It's really fun to watch
what they've been able to do. Whether people are hurt
or not hurt. But when I watch Herbert, he's been
so consistent, and I know that feeling where you're you're
on a team that keeps switching coaches on you, that
keep doing this. It reminds me of when coach Gruden
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showed up, and I hope that they get to stay
together longer than I got to stay with Grew because
we were starting to take off. And so when I
watch him, he's just so consistent, so accurate, and he's
so tall he sees everything and so he's rarely fooled,
which is really really a luxury.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You start to look at these quarterbacks and we see
young quarterbacks make the same mistakes because in college you
get to hold onto the ball a little longer, players
stay open a little bit longer. There they try to
scramble out of trouble there. Why why is that that
they keep it? You know it's new quarterbacks, but it's
the same mistakes.
Speaker 13 (18:17):
There's there's no there's no recipe for you know, you
can I'll say this one. You can train them as
much you want. When you have a red jersey on
during OTA's and training camp and all that. It gets
a little different when you get to practice or the
real games. You know that it's just there's no substitute
for experience. And so I saw, you know, we saw
cam Ward take a red zone sack and then get
sacked again, and he's trying to outrun people. And I mean,
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you find out real quick that the defensive tackles are
faster than you, you know, and so you know, it's tough, man,
And like you said, you hit it on the head.
The game is so fast, so it doesn't matter what
level at college you play. The speed of the game
four quarterbacks, it just happens faster. But you know, like
like you said, it takes guys, hopefully a shorter amount
of time because our our leash with quarter back nowadays
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is so short. It's not like the old days where
they give you time to grow and all that. But
hopefully these guys can figure it out soon. And it
looks like they will. It looks like a good batch
of young guys.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But you know, they talk about climbing up in the pocket,
and and that takes like you got to have guts
like it, you know, because it's chaos around you. But
these guys don't want to climb up in the pocket.
They want to try to dance around and get out
of trouble. But what is that feeling like. I mean,
that's the ultimate. I'm trusting my offensive lineman that I
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won't get crushed.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
One hundred percent. I remember there was a year we
started two rookie tackles and in the NFL, that's a
that's a that's a big deal. And I remember Gruden
said to me, he said, look, it's gonna be it's
gonna be rough, but when you hit that backfoot, I
want you to climb and I want you to find
a completion. And in it, man, it trained me in
such a way that you have to hit that backfoot.
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You just got to make a decision really as a man,
say I'm going forward, you know, because everything that we've
been in the old in US is like if something's
coming at me, I gotta get away from it. But
you got to go forward, you gotta climb. And you know,
for me, that was one of the biggest learning moments
was playing with two young tackles, you know, the teaching them,
hey let them run by lose one way, just don't
lose inside. And we were able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I didn't know you did a John Gruden impersonation.
Speaker 13 (20:20):
Honestly, everybody on those teams on offense can do it.
Foster Moreau, Waller Hunter where everyone has a little maybe
we don't match it perfectly, but the tone, the cadence,
like we can all hit one part of it identically.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
What's the tone that you hit?
Speaker 13 (20:35):
Oh Man? For me, it was always he would always
look at me, So you'll love this, Dan. We're in
a meeting and he would always tell me, Derek, I
want completions. I want completions. I want completions. So we're
in a team meeting and he says, eight, Car, I
want them what And I said, I want completions. He goes, no,
I want communication.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Idiot, idiot, idiot.
Speaker 13 (20:59):
That was great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Derek and David Carr have a new podcast called Homegrown
features both of the brothers discussing NFL college, high school football.
For me quarterbacks perspective. He said that he had fun
with you about the Brady coming through Las Vegas to
want to play for the Raiders and singling you out
of you're going to stay with this guy? Did you
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have fun with that?
Speaker 13 (21:24):
Oh? I did, And I'd be completely honest Dan, I had.
I had about one hundred different funny things to say.
I couldn't help myself, but I just felt like when
I woke up this morning, like it just hit me,
like with everything that happened yesterday, not to get weird,
I was like, man, it's not even worth saying any
of them. Man, I just want to love him. You know.
I could make a singer and be funny about it,
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but like you know, I just with everything have me yesterday,
It's just on my heart just to love everybody no
matter what, you know. And I have none but love
for Tom. He knows that. You know. We've talked, you know,
many times, so we did have fun though we did
as brothers do you know, with those kind of things.
But yeah, man, I just I just love on him,
you know, because I already knew I'd make some joke
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and someone wouldn't put the whole context on it and
it'd be a thing, but you know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We want to come up with a stat RCI receiver
caused interception, yes, right, because not all interceptions are made
the same way.
Speaker 13 (22:19):
One, you know, and you would have to put a
quarterback in charge of that because you know, there there
are times that it is our fault. Absolutely, And but
there are times where you throw a shallow cross it
bounces off someone's hands and you're like, what the heck?
I remember? I remember I threw a pick. It was
man coverage receiver didn't see it, you know, and he
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stops and I go to throw the shallow cross like
it's man in the corner keeps running and picks it off,
and I was like, it's ah, man, you got to
keep running, you know. But no one knew. And obviously
you get booed and all those kind of things, which
is fine.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How do you walk away from thirty million dollars?
Speaker 13 (22:55):
Oh my goodness, it wasn't easy, I promise you know.
Uh it's easy to make a comment and just say, yeah,
it is what it is. But it wasn't. It was hard.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was really when you talk to your wife, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
When I when when I talked to my wife, you know,
she she would she was ready for me to be
done whenever I was ready. You know that, she's amazing.
She would. She she saw honestly, things that no one
else saw, you know, waking up on Monday mornings and
I can't walk, you know, waking up on Monday mornings,
and I have to call her to come in the
room to help me get out of bed, you know, like,
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so she she was done. She was she was like,
I'm good. You know, eleven years is enough. But for
me as a competitor and my love, Honestly, Dan, I
love the game so much. I just love football. I
think it's great for characters. I think it's great for everybody.
I think it's team, it's unity, it's all the things
I believe in. But to say no to the money
part of it, I had to. I had to die
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to myself on that one, you know, like I had
to be like, you know, what is what's the right
thing to do all that? Because on the inside you're like,
well it's easy. I just make that money and go.
But it just wasn't right because I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What's it like to be home this time of the year.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
It's been really weird.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
You know.
Speaker 13 (24:03):
Wednesdays in the NFL are the longest days, and for
a quarterback is really every day. But you know, Wednesdays,
I'm going on dates with my wife. She said, you
want to go on the day. He's like, yeah, let's go.
It's Wednesday, you know, And that's that's a that's a
first for us in a long time, and so it's
been fun.
Speaker 14 (24:18):
Though.
Speaker 13 (24:18):
I laid on my couch and my agent text me.
He's like, how you feeling. I said, I feel great.
I'm not getting hit. So it was good.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, but will there be a temptation?
Speaker 13 (24:27):
Yeah? You know who my biggest temptation is is David.
Every every single day, he's like, text me, you see this,
you see this, you know this? You know this guy? Hey,
guess who texts me? You know he does? He doesn't.
He said, So we're gonna sit down. I said. He said,
we're gonna sit down and Thanksgiving. I said, bro, I'm retired.
He said, at least give me Thanksgiving to try and
convince you. So he's he's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
There's no scenario where you'd come back.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
I wouldn't say never because I've learned that when I
say never, it usually happens. And I think we've all
probably learned that. So for me, right now, I'm training
because I love to train, like that's gonna be the
rest of my life. I love to train. I throw
football every now and then out in the front with
my kids into my buddy. You know, for fun, because
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it's part of my rehab still for my shoulder. You know,
I'm still just trying to get that back right from
getting the shot and doing the rehab and all that,
and so I'm still doing those things. And so I
always felt like, even though I'm done, like, you know,
if God wanted me to do it, I gotta be ready.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
You know.
Speaker 13 (25:26):
I don't want to go out there and not be ready.
You know, So I'll be ready. But I'm not coming
back like right now today, I'm not coming back.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You're only thirty four.
Speaker 13 (25:36):
I am thirty five. I got a lot of life,
and I got a big job. I got coach the
fourth rough sixth grade Clovis Christian Warriors, you know what
I mean. So I'm committed to them right now.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Are they looking this year? Derek?
Speaker 13 (25:47):
They're doing good. I'm out there yelling at my kids.
He put one of them plays quarterback to the other places receiver.
So I imitate Groodon a lot to them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The two quarterbacks tonight, break them down from what you've seen.
Speaker 13 (26:00):
You know, I'm really interested. This is the this is
what it's gonna come down to. Thursday night football, right,
Thursday Night football to me, has always been the test
of who can get the healthiest and who can take
care of the football. And I think both can and
if I'm honest, like I truly believe in them, and
so I feel like it always comes down to a
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receiver or a tied end in my experience, I'll never
forget you call it play and you you thought it
was last week's play, but you get, you get it
screwed up. And it's those little details Treatman talks about
all the time. On Monday Night, He's like, it's those
little details that no one else will see. If they
can take care of the football, that's the only chance
that they have, because in Thursday night football, there's it's
there's it's usually a mess. I think we've all seen
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that as players. We hated Thursdays, but you know, it
is what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But have you ever gone to the line of scrimmage
and called to play that was from the previous team
that you were with?
Speaker 13 (26:58):
Oh, especially right when you first like get into it,
like I promise you, Like you get in the huddle
and you're like, hey, we're gonna go. You know, let's
go dice right? Three fifty eight cannon Cannas and then
you're like hey, and then you say like on the quick,
and everyone's like everyone will look at you, like what
do you mean? On the quick? You know, it's like, oh, sorry,
wrong offense, wrong offense, especially on a Thursday, because it's
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all cramon in your mind. Luckily, for Luckily, for Jaden
and Jordan, this is the only offenses that they know,
and so they'll be Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Did Peyton ruin it for all quarterbacks? Because now everybody's
expected to go to the line of scrimmage and you know,
change the play, call the play.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
You know, when I watched Peyton, that's who I wanted
to be, honestly, like I Peyton knows this. I used
to go to the stadium early when my brother would
play him, and I would watch him throw to Marvin
and Reggie and Dallash Clark and those guys, and and like,
growing up, I thought, I still believe that's the best
way to play football. The coach. The coach is making
estimated guests based on on study and film and what
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they know about these people at the defense corners. But
the quarterback gets to see the tests right in front
of it. So if you can train the quarterback that way,
So did he ruin it? I wouldn't say he ruined it,
but that's how the game I believe supposed to be played.
But now with the CBA, these coaches don't even have
time to teach the game like we did. Like it's
just it's so different. So now it's just flash cards. Hey,
remember this flash card and go do it at the
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best of your ability.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Good luck with the YouTube stuff, good luck with the
podcast with your brother, and good luck in retirement.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
Oh thank you, Dan, I appreciate. It's always good to
talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's Derek Carr. He played eleven seasons. He's only thirty
four YouTube pre and postgame studio analyst, and he was
there Friday night with the Chiefs and the Chargers, and
he walked away from thirty million dollars with the sinks.
Russell in Las Vegas. Hi, Russ, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
How's it going you guys?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Great?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Great?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey, listen. I was gonna call in to give you
my best and worst, but I'm just gonna give you
the best, which was the Bills win, and the worst
is the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
My point is.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
That these are professional athletes. These are a million dollars personnel, right,
I don't think they should step off the playing field
to go tunt the the away fans, uh and then
run around the inner lining of the stadium. I don't
think they should do that. I think the NFL should
step in, especially now, because they're doing things overseas where
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there's a different let's say, there's a different attitude of
how to handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Just because you go close to the stands, that's not
a green light for somebody to smack you. Russell.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, I understand it, but I understand it. But
you're you're going run to the stands. Come on, even hockey.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, they were running past the stands. Look, Lamar has
said that he never should have done it. But you're not.
You're not saying anything about this fan. Oh they're coming
close to me. I get to smack you in the helmet.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Well, why is the NFL not stepping into the guide
the players to stop him from doing that behavior versus Oh, okay,
if you're in the end zone, you make it. You're
a wide receiver, you make a fantastic catch, fantastic catch,
and you have one too many pelvic plumps. Not a
fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, I'm not sure why you're so bothered by this.
I don't know how many times somebody goes up to
the stands unless it's a Lambeau leap. But you're seeing
something different than I am. Russell. Thank you for the
phone call, Jesse and Kansas. Hi, Jess, what's on your mind?
(30:46):
I got a bad connection there, Jess. Rob in Orange County,
Hi Rob, mister Dan.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes? I can.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
Hey Dan, Nice to meet too.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Dan. That's I've talked before. And I just want to
say this. You're talking about Davy Johnson. He was at
my house in Santa Luis and my father in law
was the caddy for him. How do I say the
best way? I think it's Sam Humphrey's invitational and we
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became good friends and the humility of Batman was an
awesome man and it's the same as you, Dan, And
I just want to say that I I I respect
the man so much and to sit down and have
(31:44):
dinner and break bread and basically loved the man. And
I'm sad to hear hear it in your voice.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Rob. Thank you. Yeah. Davy Johnson. I was there with
the eighty six months I didn't really know him, but
he play in a golf tournament and he went to
a children's hospital. He I asked all the players if
anybody could go, and Davey went, and Davy spent a
couple hours there. I never forgot that, all the things,
(32:15):
all the other stuff that he did, that's what always
stands out. And he just passed away l Loo in California.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Hey, let's go down.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
How's it going.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Hey, just want to get your thoughts on that new
development or the Kowhai story about that Aspire company being
like one point seven Milo short and then Steve Balmer
came in and saved the day. He gave a one
point nine a million donations.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, it doesn't look good. It doesn't. Now, I don't
know how you know how hard Adam Silver is going
to come down on the Clippers. In fact, when we
come back, I'll play a little bit of Adam Silver's
press conference. He did talk about this. It just it doesn't.
I mean, it adds up, literally adds up. But that's
the reason why I have a problem with this. The
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numbers add up to Kawhi getting this, and I still don't.
I don't understand what Mark Cuban's saying when he was
on with Pablo Torri talking about, Hey, do you think
Steve Balmer is you know, stupid that he wouldn't make
sure that that company didn't go bankrupt, so you would
be he would be exposed to his creditors. So you're
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saying that he would cover up something like this is
what I would say to Mark Cuban, that he wouldn't
let this happen because he would fix this, So then
he would cover up a salary cap circumvention. I don't know,
I don't know. Pablo has some more information as well,
(33:49):
but we'll play the commissioner's comments about the Clippers situation
after this.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
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Speaker 2 (34:06):
Live Kawhi Leonard's story with the Clippers not going away quietly.
Pablo Torre has some more information a follow up, and
he talked about Clippers minority owner Dennis Wong made almost
two million dollar investment in this company, which then paid
Kawhi Leonard one point seven to five million as required
(34:28):
through his endorsement contract with the environmental company. This according
to Pablo Torre in his podcast Pablo Tory finds out
you just start to look at the numbers and they
kind of match up with the money. A lot of
smoke there. Here's the commissioner, Adam Silver talking about the investigation.
Speaker 14 (34:50):
The burden is on the league if we're going to
discipline a team, an owner, a player, or in any
of the constituents members of the league. I think, as
a matter of fundamental fairness, I would be reluctant to
act if there was sort of a mere appearance of impropriety.
I think the goal of a full investigation is to
(35:12):
find that if there really was impropriety.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
The public at times.
Speaker 14 (35:15):
Reaches conclusions that later turn out to be completely false,
and so I do would want anybody else in situation
mister Bomber is in now, or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,
to be treated the same way I would want to
be treated if people were making allegations against me.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
All right, Commissioner of you talked to Steve Balmer, Commissioner
of you talked to Kawhi Leonard. Commissioner, have you talked
to Pablo tore commissioner, do you have access to the
same information that Pablo Torre does? Still driving that trusty
old ride. Keep it looking sharp with Mako from dense
to faded paint. We got you covered free estimate today.
(35:52):
Oh better get Mako. This may have been going on,
Maybe it goes on a lot more than we know.
Maybe we're just being naive, but this one, we're going
to pay you off the books to circumvent the salary cap.
And somebody on record in that company saying that's what
(36:13):
happened with this money, seven different sources. You got three
thousand pages of documents, so there's something here. And I
would ask the commissioner, what is your next move? What
are you going to do? Because he's got to protect
all the other owners, and what are the other owners think?
Are other owners doing this? Like, Hey, we got you
(36:35):
a job over here, but it's not really a job,
and we're going to pay you this.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, Paulin, I know we're a long way from punishment
for the Clippers, if any, but they don't have a
twenty twenty six first round draft pick. They don't have
a twenty twenty eight first round draft, so the cupboard
is a bit bare. Already.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Steph Curry was on the Today Show in NBC. NBC
of course is going to be bringing you the NBA
coming up this season, and Steph talked about today's NBA players.
Speaker 15 (37:03):
I was also about wise man when I was getting
into the league, like, you want to leave the league
in a better place than when you found it. And
I think just the way that you see the skill
level right now, the way that the range just kind
of taken over and got to shooting threes all over
the court, but just from one through five and all
the way down the ross, I think this is the
most skilled, you know, era of basketball history. And so
(37:25):
whether that was you know, young kids in the game
now seeing you know, my generation the way that I
play and getting inspired by that like that for me
is important and something I don't take for granted.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that one through five. What
we ask big men to do, what big men are
allowed to do. Now that they can take their game
out three point range, they can also be inside the
ability to run the floor, handle the ball, and then
you have the other players the ability to make shots,
(37:58):
tough shots. It's pretty amazing. So skill level, yeah, I'm
not so, I mean that's I'd be surprised if he,
you know, said something different. They had, Yes, one through five,
it's as skilled as it's ever been. You can watch
you know, the NBA, and you can watch and you
could see that there were players who played, players who
(38:19):
started and they weren't you know, high skill level guys.
You could still get away with a guy who was
going to be banging around, you know, physical guy and enforcer.
You don't really have that now. I mean, you got
guys if something happens, then I got an enforcer. But
you know, back in the eighties and nineties, felt like
(38:41):
every team had an enforcer. You know, something's gonna happen
to the star player. Hey, you're gonna knock down Jordan,
Charles Oakley wants to see you. You know, you would
just have that. But skilled positions one through five. Yeah, amazing,
But Steph made it look too easy and it's not.
Speaker 16 (39:02):
Yes, marm Yeah, this isn't a very like, this isn't
a hot take it all. No, like, it's the evolution
of the game. Because you would say that about any sport,
not any sport, but you say about the NFL also,
these guys might be better than they were before. How
many guys in the eighties of their nineties can do
what Kyrie can do. That's the first guy I think of,
or even Kevin Durant. You talk about guys. If Kevin
(39:23):
Durant played in the nineties, there's no way he's out
there to three point line. They would say, get in
the post. Oh yeah, what are you doing facing up dribbling? Yes,
get down there and working at low post.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Moves and big men would not be out eighteen feet away.
They'd be like, get down there, get down on the
low post. Yeah, Paul, if you.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Want to play a little Devil's advocate to what Steph said,
could you make the case that the main skill these
days is outside shooting, which everyone can do, but the
other skills like driving to the basket or posting up
is a skill that's gone away quite a bit. And
that was if you say multi skilled athletes shooting outside
is a great skill and never could do it. But
(40:00):
I don't know if they drive to the basket like
they used to or post up like they used to.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Well, the game is begging you to drive to the
basket or mid range jumpers. But you know, the analytics
say don't. I still don't understand that when guys are
one for nine from three point range and I see
go to the hoop, get fouled, shoot some free throws,
get somebody in foul trouble, and it'll change, Mark my words,
(40:24):
it'll change. Somebody's approach is going to be. You've got
to deal with us inside. You got to deal with
us down low, and you'll still have you know, the
requisite three point shooter or a couple of them. But
I mean, if I had shack yal Ming these, you know, Koreem,
I'm like, let's see if you can stop us, because
nobody is geared to stop you down low, and I
(40:46):
think somebody is going to be Not everybody's going to
be built like Victor wemben Yama. You're gonna get guys
who were still big men. Yes, Marv, but we see
that now with the Joker. The Joker he can do
all that stuff where he the ball almost like a
water polo player, but there's plenty of times where he
gets old school back you down and he's got great
touch around the basket where nobody can do anything with
(41:10):
him because these guys aren't built to defending them posts well,
it's like Luca as well. I mean, Luca can shoot
the three, but Luca does get to the hoop. Luca
gets in the lane, lob passes, and he's physical. These
guys are big guys. Two hours in the books. On
this Thursday, our good buddy Nick Wright set to go
(41:31):
to Kansas City, gonna go see the game, but also
the steakhouse Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes are opening up,
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