May 5, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs
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as we always do every Monday. Best and worst of
the weekend. What you saw that you liked you didn't like?
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Play of the Day We already had that many plays
of the Day over the weekend. No Plays of the
Day for James Harden in Game seven, once again a
no show and then literally a no show after the game,
didn't show up to talk to the media. All for
their losses. Now I get it, you don't want to
go in there. It's the end of the season and
have everybody bring up all the ugly numbers from all
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of your elimination games. You're getting paid forty six million dollars.
It's part of the job. May not like it. Do
ten minutes and you're done, and maybe you give us
insights into something else. Maybe somebody can ask you a
question where we find out more about who you are,
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what you're thinking, why it's happened, What are you thinking
in the moment? This you know, this is why you
get paid what you get paid. Because the TV networks
are the ones spending all this money, they would like
to have some answers. What happened? Why do you only
get eight shots? Why is it that you somehow don't
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take as many shots as you should? Maybe you could
ask Maybe you would talk about Kwhi Leonard, who had
a wonderful postseason and maybe the future here, but he
disappeared in the game and after the game as well.
I had the NBA title odds and it's a whole
lot of thunder And then the Celtics third on the list.
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A distant third is Cleveland, then a really distant fourth
is Minnesota. The Nuggets and Golden State Warriors aren't in
there and you get the Thunder against Denver, and yes,
do you want to see SGA against Joker? You do?
But I'm just curious, like, this is a quick turnaround
for Denver and I'm guessing Oklahoma City. There's a reason
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why they're favored by nine and a half because it's
a quick turnaround here. Surprise, surprise. The Cavaliers ended up
losing to the Pacers yesterday. The Knicks are getting nine
tonight in Boston, the Nuggets getting nine and a half, eight,
seven to seven to three. DP show operator Tyler's sitting by.
He'll get to your phone calls coming up. But Golden
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State dominated Houston and the Warriors of the third seventh
seed in the last twenty years to advance beyond the
first round. I'm joining the Lakers of twenty twenty three
in the Spurs of twenty ten. But this is a
different Golden State team, not a true seventh seed. And
usually you know, these teams aren't true seven seeds. You know,
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this is a three seed, a two seed, and maybe
you over achieved a little bit. You know, Houston was
a wonderful story, but were they the second best team
in the West? Okay, during the regular season, yes, but
postseason that's when things change. You're graded on a curve,
and we saw with Golden State when they need to
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they do it. Steph was great in the second half,
certainly in the fourth quarter. Buddy Healed was awesome. Here
is Steve Kerr talking about Steph Curry's performance.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I thought Steph was brilliant tonight. I know he got
off to a slow start shooting the ball, but whole
key to the game was taking care of the ball,
and he managed the game beautifully, and you know it's
just a matter of time before his shot goes in.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But the reason we had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The eleven point lead at half or whatever it was
twelve was because of the way Steph took care of
the ball, got us into our offense, and settled the
game down.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Just having experience, and you could see where Houston didn't
have that. And they've got some really wonderful young players there,
and I hope they stay with the nucleus. I hope
they continue to build just like OKAC has done, just
like Cleveland did. Now, Cleveland did bring in Donovan Mitchell,
but they do have a really good nucleus there. Then
they've drafted really well and that's what I like seeing.
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You know, the Celtics, they've drafted. Well. Now you bring
in some of these pieces like Porzingis, but that's a
deep team. Houston's got a young team and a deep team,
and that's the future. In the NBA. You hopefully get
two potential All Stars and then if you can have
a bench that will take you eight deep or nine deep,
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that's when you make a long you know, you have
a long season and you make a deep run in
the postseason. These teams have depth, Gotta have them. That
was my big knock on Denver. I didn't think that
they fortified their bench, and maybe Joker would only win
one title, and he might only win one title in Denver,
and I thought this past offseason, you got to load up. Yeah,
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I mean, you got this guy that this all time great.
You've got to make sure that you have some depth
because their depth helped them win an NBA championship a
couple of years ago. Gotta have that, all right. We'll
give you our best and worst through the weekend drama
with the Winnipeg over the Blues in two overtimes Game seven.
A whole lot of fun watching that. But Nick Celtics Tonight,
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Nuggets at the Thunder Game one. I never know what
the Knicks are going to do. I mean, I know
how they're going to play, but this all always feels like,
what do I expect out of Boston? Is Boston just
going to say we're so much better than you, so
much deeper than you, so much bigger than you, so
much healthier than you. We're going to dominate. And there's
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always that little bit of doubt with Boston, always with me.
And maybe it's not fair to them because I think
in modern NBA they kind of created a dynasty. I've
got to win another title maybe to you know, kind
of fit into that category dynasty. But they're there. It's
going to be Eastern Conference finals or NBA Finals, they're
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going to be there. And there's no reason to think
that they won't continue to do that. You know, Cleveland
is a good, you know, really good team, but I
don't think they're better than Boston come postseason time. And
I said, Cleveland is going to have their hands full
with Indiana and you saw that the next will give
you a spirited series. It'll be and they just kind
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of grind it out and Brunson will hit a big
shot or Josh Hart will go you know, something will
happen where you know you'll you'll have hope with the Knicks.
But I think Boston is just so much better and
just like Oka see with Denver, I just think OKAC
is a extremely deep team. This is where people are
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going to see OKAC, maybe for the first time, because
most people probably played the Hits and just you know,
it'll be the Lakers, maybe you would see the Celtics,
you'd see the Knicks. You probably don't see some of
these teams like Houston. This is probably the first time
you saw Houston this year with Golden Steak. But you're
going to see Okasee and you're going to see just
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how deep that team is and it's not just SGA.
Kind of a coming out party of sorts. There eight
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A couple other things here. Let's see I played, I
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played Russell. I'm gonna play this again just because it's
it's so refreshing, and you want something that sums up
Russell Westbrook. Who better than Russell Westbrook to sum up
Russell Westbrook. You know, my.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Ability to be able to be a force of nature
on the floor is what I pride myself. Phone, So
whatever that looks like, it may be a turnover, it
may be a misshot, but it may be a steal,
maybe a dunk, maybe a mystery, maybe a may three.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's gonna be all of that. It's gonna be everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So you just take it, take it. But how it
comes and whatever happens, you go with it. It's awesome.
Whose career would you rather have, Russell Westbrook or James
Harden Russ?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh okayrus Russ doesn't have glaring Game seven failures.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay, yeah, but he's been kind of kicked to the
curb and James Harden has to Well, Harden is still
like the focal point. And you know, Russ got benched,
already got sent to the bench. He doesn't even start anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
The thing about Russ to me is you'll never have
to question whether he cares or not. Okay, his effort
will always be there. Okay, all right, He's coming out.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's fair. Okay, that's fair, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, I'm with Marvin Westbrook. Seems like an effort guy
who's got flaws, but they're not intentional. And Harden at
times his career felt like he wasn't all in, whether
it be conditioning or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Make it's close, though, Todd.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I'm gonna give the edge to Harden, just because he's
got that cool nickname, the Beard. Russ doesn't really have
her nickname, and he got all the triple doubles and everything.
But if nothing else, if it's fairly even, I'm gonna go, oh,
that's the Beard in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh okay, Seaton went about you, Russell Westbrook Junior the
third or James Harden.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Probably give a slight edge to Harden. I think ultimately
he maybe has had a better career.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, Russ wins the MVP, but there was a time
when Harden he was unstoppable. That but three years in
a row led the league in scoring that damn postseason.
You know, if it was just based on if we
only had regular seasons, everything would be great. You know,
you'd look at Harden, you go, man, he's great. It's
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that postseason and those you know damn game sevens. Yes,
they each have an MVP, right, I think they each
have one. Yeah, so they're kind of tied there scoring wise, mmm,
I mean averaging a triple double? How many times his
career Russell Westbrook, that's pretty cool? Yeah? Four times? Yeah,
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but you forget Harden is a great passer. And how
many times does Harden had double digit assist seasons? Now,
great score, but also in granted he has the ball
all the time, but you know Westbrook had the ball
all the time too in his triple double seasons, Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Harden had ten or more assists eight different times, and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It's pretty impressive, Like how many guys have had that
in their career? Yes, it feels like Harden at least
his style of play has aged a little better. Maybe
he seems to still be pretty effective. Well, what is
Russ's style to play? All out? It's just like frenetic
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up and down. Yes, Todd, it didn't work out, bouncing
from one place to another.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
But also if perception is reality, when you think of
like putting a Big three together, you know Harden's name
comes up with like Big two or three's Russell Westbrook
would never be named as part of the big two
or three of a team.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That could possibly be he was. He was not as much.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
There was hardened every team hard.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Because Westbrook and Durant where the big two, Harden was
off the bench and Okce, so Russ has been the
first or second best player on his team and Harden
was a sixth man back then for okay see and
then all of a sudden, he's going, I'm gonna have
my own team. Get me out of here. I'm going
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to Houston.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, Paul, if I was describing Russ's Westbrook's style play,
it's like he has a twelve second shot clock instep
of twenty four. It's like he's in a hurry at
all times. And for a long time it worked.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, he just and I agree with you that it's
it's energy that leads to something. The problem is it
can also lead to bad things. Boy, he's hustling out there.
You know, you can't take him out. You can't criticize it. Man,
he plays hard, but he helps both teams. It feels like, yes,
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Marton and.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
He's one of those guys where they're lunch pale guys.
But also won the MVP Award like Moses Malone would
be a lunch pale guy. But he's just averaging thirty
and twenty. Yeah, like Larry Bird, like a lunch pale
guy where it's like, you know what, he'll die for
every ball, he'll go for every loose rebound.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That's what Russell Westbrook is.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And he's more aesthetically pleasing maybe to me because James
Harden with the foul bating, it would just throw me off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, but he created a move right like, although do
we give man Wu Genobili credit for the euro step
or Sharunas marcellonas whoever it was. It can't be an
American who gave us the eurostep because it's called the
euro step. But I don't know. Do we go with Genobi?
(13:43):
Man he's a Hall of Famer, but do you go? Yeah,
and he gave us a move. More people do the
euro step than new James Harden's move, right, So man
Wu has had a bigger impact on his one move
than James Harden.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, Pauling Harden didn't at all invent the step back,
but it felt like he mastered it and took it
to an extra step back.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, but who had the step back before that because
it was a step back and over.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Reggie Miller said that he did it a little bit,
and Kobe actually sampled it from him a long long
time ago. Kobe used to do a light step back
in the second half of his career.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, but nothing is egregious. And it felt like when
you watched Harden, you go, that's a travel, clearly, And
then we had the commissioner on he goes, no, it's
not a travel, Like where I'm from, that's a travel, yeah, Pauli.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That area of the NBA was like if you live
in a town where it's fifty five and everyone's going
sixty five and they go, you know, instead of busting
people just up at the sixty five.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Everybody gets to go sixty five. We're not arresting anybody
for going sixty five, but we would prefer you went fifty.
It's like carrying I'm watching old highlights and it's not
old highlights, but it's where guys just you know, you're
watching Luca his it would be like a waiter bringing
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your tray out like his his hand is under the
ball and then just carrying it like that. And I
kept thinking these guys are so good, like they don't
need that advantage of I got a great handle, and
they let me do things where you can carry the
ball with your handle. It's like the professor. The professor
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was out there playing.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
One.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yes, I've been watching some professor videos. Yeah, yeah, I
stumbled upon Facebook and all of a sudden, I'm watching
Tyson fights, Zach Gallifanakis between two ferns and h just
a couple other things where and all of a sudden,
once they know what you like, and then that's my feed.
(15:53):
It's the same thing. You know, America's got talent with
the Golden buzzer. Been watching that. My wife's like, it's nice.
Are you gonna go out? And I go, yeah, I
don't know. I just watching videos here. Yes, Marv, what's
your name on Facebook so we can look you up? Oh,
come on, But you still didn't answer the question. Yeah,
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so what's your name or Facebook? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
I just found Facebook. It's going to catch tell you what, dude,
this is a hell of an era to find Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, there's a hell of a time place in the
timeline to have discovered social media. I see your profile
on there, but I'm not bringing you in. I don't
have anybody. I don't follow anybody.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
You're watching between two Ferns videos on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes some reason. Yes, yes, I'm not on any other
social media. In fact, this really is in social media
because I'm not reaching out to anybody like anybody I
care about. I already you know I can call you.
I don't have to share poems to my wife or anything. Yes, time, and.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Nobody even calls anybody anymore. Everybody's texting each other and abbreviations,
and when people call you, you're pretty much not con
even pick it up. You're gonna let it go to
voicemail anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yes, well you're on Facebook just in time for Mother's Day,
so you can write a post to your wife.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, to my rock. This is harder in crime. Seaton
always goes off on this when somebody is telling you
what they're writing to their wife. I never knew seventeen
years ago.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Not only would I be meeting my best friend, but
the love of it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Oh yes.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
It's to the point now where if my phone rings
and it's a person like I went to high school
and college with my oh no, I think, oh no,
and it's a direct phone call.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm on Facebook, ish book. Yeah she
has time.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I don't like when someone puts a ten paragraph thing
and it sounds like they lost like a spouse or
a father or a cousin or something, and it turns
out it was like the pet turtle or something like that,
and they went on and on about you know what
it's done, how it's devastated the family.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Were sure that they've done a pet turtle.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I've seen guinea pigs and the various, like a golden example.
I don't have a specific example. I've read where it
was like, oh my god, what happens? And as it
turns out, it's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You do lead the league in hyperbole around here.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I do tend to exaggerated times, but I have seen
you know, have you ever had a pet?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I have not wired a wire.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
You never had a pet.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
You've never had a single pet. You've never had a goldfish?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Nothing?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You ever have a goldfish? Didn't have a guinea pig? Oh,
my friend had one of those birds like a little parrot.
Para key thing where you like.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, I'm asking you, I don't care about your friend. No.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
In my apartment building, in Brooklyn. You know, I don't
even know if they allowed pets. I guess they did, But.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, what about now? I mean, you're got a house.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
My daughter wants to get a dog, but she's in
college so she can go do that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Feels like you're afraid you better buy a dog.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
I got bit by a dog, by my uncle's dog
a couple of times, and then I was kind of
done with about a cat. Okay, I don't trust cats.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
There's something evil to me. It's not going to steal
your car. Your instincts are right on that. Your instincts
are correct. Cats are evil.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I think you know they have that attitude, like you know, they.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Get to come home to a friend every time. They
can't wait to sale o to.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You be more likely to get a dog that a
catch fitzers.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So great, All right, let me take a break. We'll
talk some more hoops coming up. Yeah, I want to
find out this scenario where Luca would not stay with
the Lakers. We'll talk to the guy who wrote the
book on Luca, Tim McMahon and the Mothership. Well, Johna's
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Speaker 1 (20:36):
Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter Band McMahon podcast on the
Hoop Collective and also the author of the new book
The Wonder Boy Luka Doncic and The Curse of Greatness,
as Tim Joyce is from OKC. Before we get to
that series, few other topics. Whose career would you rather have?
James Harden or Russell Westbrook?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Howdy Dan uh kind of look at the career earnings,
They're both way up there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I feel like.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Harden probably when you when you rank them in terms
of the echelons of NBA great and so, I mean
they're both first ballot Hall of Famers and all that.
I feel like Harden lands higher on that list, but
has more scrutiny, and you know, for the reasons you
guys said, his playoff failure failures have been spectacular, where
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it feels like most of Russ's playoff failures, you you
kind of left them well, you know, they just didn't
have the better team and and he didn't get the
same sort of burden on his shoulders. It's crazy how
they've both become journeyman type of guys late in their career.
Now Harden's still doing it at a high price point
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and Hardens still the one decided when he wants to
leave where he wants to go, whereas that's not the
case with the Russ. Russ has been traded twice to
the Utah Jazz over the last few years, and I
played a second, not played a second for that franchise.
That's kind of you know, and and seriously, like with Russ,
you keep on feeling is this his last chance? Is
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this his last chance? And then you know they don't
get another one. Harden's had a much better year this year,
but Russ is still playing and Russ had a much
better game seven, And right now, that's all that really matters.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Whose future mediate future do you like better? The Clippers
or the Lakers?
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Oh, I mean the Lakers just because they have a
generational talent to build around, and they've got to they've
got to build, you know, they they've got to figure
that out. Obviously, depth was a major problem for the Lakers.
I mean, they played five guys for an entire half
of a playoff game, you know something that we've never
seen before, but one the Lakers traditionally have not had
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a whole lot of problems convincing guys. Hey, you know,
do you like the sunshine, do you like the glitz
and glamour, do you like the spotlight?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You might want to come here.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
And you know, Luca is not somebody who everybody maybe
will want to play with, But they've got the other
guys who are gonna have the ball in their hands.
They need to fill out with the role players like
the Mavericks. Did you know the year before they went
to the finals, And you know the primary thing they
need is that lobcatch and rim protect and big man
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and those type of guys will absolutely be lining up
to try to play with Luca in La.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I did wonder when JJ Reddick said we got to
get in championship shape, and I did think of you
because you wrote the book on Luca. How do you
think this was received by him where it's not being
called out by name, but everybody knows he's saying you
need to get in championship shape.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Probably about the same as when Jason Kidd would do
it at end of seasons and even Rick Carlisle at
end of seasons. I mean, this has been something that
has been an issue for Luca throughout his entire career,
even going back to the pre draft process. It was
one of the knocks.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But does his backup what the Mavericks did. Nico Harrison,
His knock on him partly was well he went in
shape and he knew he couldn't play defense.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Well, what I have consistently said is the condition concerns
are absolutely legitimate and still an insane reason to trade
a generational talent munths removed from him leading your franchise
to the NBA Finals when he fully intended to stay
in Dallas for his entire career. So the Lakers' first
shound exit does not justify the trade that was made
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or the condition concerns legitimate. Of course they are, and
like you don't need you didn't need this to know that?
Did people like has there been some kind of like
optometrius revolution suddenly? Like did you not have eyeballs? Were
they not working? Of course, conditioning has been a concern
with him throughout his career. He's still been a five
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time first team NBA player the defense. And here's the
thing where those two things are directly related. Right, Lucas
obviously at his worst defensively when he's gassed, and well,
you know, when you play him the entire second half,
that doesn't help matters. But you can build a good
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defense that protects Luca, that includes Luca. And I'm not
saying like hypothetically, I'm saying it's happened on multiple occasions.
The Mavericks did it. The year they went to the
conference finals, they ranked seventh in the league in defense.
They did it last year when they went to the finals.
They were the number one defense for the final quarter
of the season, and then that continued into the playoffs.
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Even the Celtics series. Luke had some terrible defensive moments.
They lost that series because they couldn't score because the
guys around them couldn't hit shots, and you know, and
his defensive issues didn't help. But I'm saying, so, yeah,
the flaws are the flaws, but no, it doesn't justify
the trade. And I absolutely, you know, like the Lakers
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are ecstatic to be able to have the opportunity to
try to build around this dude for the next decade.
But they've got a lot of work to do in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Can you see a scenario where Luca doesn't stay in La.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, I mean sure, I could come up with scenarios.
I would be shocked if there's not some sort of
extension this summer, ok you know, and what that looks like.
There's a lot of factors. I don't want to bog
you down with CPA Minutia and all that kind of stuff,
but I with what I know of Luca, and I
(26:40):
haven't talked to him directly about this, but you know,
talking to people who know Luca, well, I think he
absolutely wants to give the Lakers, like he's fully committed La. Now.
His heart was broken, but he's fully committed to the Lakers,
and you know his goal now is to win championships
(27:02):
with that franchise.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Jim McMahon the spn NBA Reporter, Band of McMahon podcast
on the Hoo Collective and of course the new book
The Wonder Boy, Luka, Doncic and The Curse of Greatness.
Who has a better chance of going further? The Warriors
or the Nuggets?
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Well, I would say the Warriors because they don't have
to play Oklahoma City this round. You know, listen, man, Okay,
see The one doubt about okay See is well, they
haven't done it before.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That's really the one flow.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
This is a team that set the NBA record for
point differential in the season. I mean, they've been absolutely dominant.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So now, if the Nuggets.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Were playing the Wolves, well, actually I'm sorry, if Snuggets
playing the Warriors, I probably would pick the Nuggets in
that series, but that's not the way the brackets broke.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you know, so I think the.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Warriors have a better chance to beat the Wolves than
the Nuggets do beating the Thunder. I'm not sure the
Warriors have a great chance of beating the Wolves.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm wondering if and I'm just looking at the playoff rosters.
So it's recency biased that.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
It used to be you were trying to get three
big names, three stars. Now it feels like two is great,
but you really need to have depth. Cleveland, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Indiana,
ok See, Boston like they have, you know, two really
good players or one great player and then you have depth.
(28:30):
There is that kind of the model now moving forward
that Okac is put in front of.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Us, well, and I just think that to have a
big three, especially if they're three max guys. It's gonna
be tough to build your roster out from there with
all the handcuffs that are in the new CBA. And
you know, the Suns are kind of an extreme example
of well, they had their big three and you know,
there wasn't a whole lot around that. Plus those three
(28:58):
guys didn't necessarily they fit very well together, and really
it was a big two and then a huge third salary.
But yeah, depth matters and role players matter. There's only
one basketball, right, so you're not gonna have three guys
scoring thirty a game, you know, but you do. It's
(29:20):
still a superstars league. Just be clear, Like the Houston
Rockets are deep, they're athletic, they're tough, they're relentless. They
don't have a superstar. If they get a superstar, which
you know will be an interesting summer, the Houston Rockets
have a chance to be right in the thicke of
things as soon as next season. But if you don't
(29:41):
have and like the Thunder, the Thunder have one superstar,
two all star caliber guys, I would say, and by
the way, we could argue if that Shay Jaylen Williams,
chet Holme win three, Chet Holme win thing will be
a big three soon. But then they played ten guys
by the first second of the and quarter every game,
and it's like a tough decision, Well, which good player
(30:04):
is not going to get in there? You know, we
got like twelve or thirteen guys with rotation calber dudes
that matters.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Can the next beat the Celtics?
Speaker 8 (30:14):
I mean can? I guess it's hard for me to
kind of figure out the pathway. The Celtics have a
clean injury report now, which is huge obviously with Drew
Holiday missing time last series and Jaylen Brown's been banged up. Porzingis,
(30:35):
you know, the next need Jalen Brunston to be an
absolute superhero and he's dealing with Drew Holliday and Derek
White and a little bit of Jaylen Brown and then
you know Porzingis and Horford and the paint.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Maybe call Anthony Towns has a series of his life,
but this would be a massive upset.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Karl Anthony Toones, you mean the greatest shooting big men
of all time?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Spigs promote self proclaimed greatest shooting a big man of
all time?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Who is the greatest shooting big man of all time.
I mean, you know, I'm based in Dallas. There's a
German seven foot fellow by the name of Dirt Novitski
who probably would stay claim of that title. I mean,
I guess you could tell me, well, he was a
power forward, not a big man.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
But that's the guy who revolutionized the league as a
seven footer who was bombing away. And that's the dude
who's six all time on the scoring list. Gave him
the nod.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Best shooting center of all time. Now Cat has a
claim there. He has a real claim there. Now you
know the knock there would be.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Yeah, but he's had his most playoff success when they
had to pair him with another big man because he's
not a defensive anchor. Nobody ever accused Dirk could be
a defensive anchor.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Either. He was an anchor. He was being weighed down.
He had an anchor on his back there. But you know,
we were talking about this when you talk about players
who had a signature move that changed the game or
a style like Dirk changed the game for all big men.
(32:11):
Steph with his ability to shoot threes, Harden to a
certain degree with his.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
To one hundred percent degree. Okay, well, now that step back,
step back changed the game for sure, and what Luca
has done with that that started with Harden one hundred percent.
Like Harden was launching more step back threes than like
the rest of the league combined. Early on during that
(32:39):
that Houston run and the step back three became a
common weapon because of Harden, just like that one legged
fadeaway became a common weapon because of Dirk. So Harden
absolutely gets credit for the step back revolution.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Now does Sharunus Marshall onas or who gets credit for
the euro step?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I would say is most commonly associated with Genobili. Genobla
is the guy who took it to the next level,
which is always fun to me. I know he played
in Europe, but he's not European, so but no, Genobli
is the one who that became a move that's in
everybody's bag because Genobili had so much success with it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
But it's okay, out of all those moves, what move
is used more by more players more often? Is it
the eurostep?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, it's probably got to beat the eurostep. I think
every every ballhandler has the eurostep, and you know, it's
become a thing where there's so many different variations of
it now and now there's the deceleration where these guys,
I mean, it's really some of the balance is amazing,
where these guys are like balancing on one foot and
(33:54):
just letting traffic pass by or you know. I mean,
so it just it gets added on more and more
and more and more every year. But yeah, the euro step,
I will go eurostep probably the one later after that,
because it's not just the big man, like I mean,
Durant has it, Lebron has it. You know, a bunch
of these, you know, bigger wings and guards had that
(34:18):
as well as the big man. And then you know
the step back three And I would say you could
argue the step back three is maybe the most abused
move of those because there are definitely people who are
taking step back threees.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You're like, yeah, maybe maybe maybe we should just move
the ball there. Have fun. We appreciate you joining us, Tim,
Thank you all right, appreciate you having me. Jim McMahon
he is a reporter for The Mothership Ben McMahon podcast
on the Hoop Collective and his book on Luca the
Wonder Boy. It's available wherever you get your books. When
we come back, we will give you our best and
(34:52):
worst of the weekend. Be sure to catch the live
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Time for our best and worst of the weekend, we'll
get to more phone calls coming up. Former NBA player
Jim Jackson will join his final hour at the program tonight,
(35:12):
Nick Celtics and Nuggets in the thunder around the same
point spread around nine to nine and a half for
both of those visiting teams. Todd, I'll start with you.
By the way, we were revisiting some food stories that
we have here and one Seaton got pizza, a small
pizza after the show, and Todd thinks everything is you know, community,
(35:36):
and just walk by and goes, now, that's what I'm
talking about and put his hand in there and grabbed
a slice of pizza from Seaton.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Whatever reason, I thought there was a pizza party going on,
and I should have at least asked us.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
So if there was, it was a small, small pizza.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I would Dan order like several small pizzas. It doesn't
make sense anyway, I guess that's.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
What I did.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's turned into several small pizza. Yeah, there was one
small pizza, Todd. It was seatons and you walked No.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
I assume that maybe there's some others that are in
the back that haven't been brought out to the frontiers.
One small pizza falls, but there's a pizza party going on.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I guess the.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
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a picture of Todd looking like you ever see like
almost like chef boyardy or so other word. He's like
(36:30):
spinning the pizza on top of his seg and it
was for like Fritzy's Pizza or something like that. And
the big catchphrase was that's what I'm talking about. Didn't
sell much, but man, was at a great shirt.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You were so excited. I was great you locked in
on that pizza. I really was.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
And then when scene got so upset with me, I
went from joy to like, oh my god, what did
I do all right?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Best and worst of the weekend Todd to help his
team win four.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
To three at Fenway on Saturday, twins second base when
Cody Clemens hit a sixth inning home run to right
field while the family was in attendance, including his famous dad,
the Rocket Roger Clemens. A fan through the ball back
from the stand, so Cody was able to get his
home run ball. So that was kind of cool that yeah,
Rogers Soason hit a home run at Fenway.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Worst.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
After blowing a two to zero lead to the Dallas
Stars Saturday night, the Avalanche become the first team to
lose seven consecutive game sevens in the NHL playoffs dating
back to two They now hold the dubious record of
being the first team ever in Major League Baseball, NBA
or NHL history to lose seven straight game sevens.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, see O'Connor. Best and worst.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
My best of the weekend Miko Rantonen of the Dallas Stars. Phenomenal,
My guy, not only a hat trick to knock out
your former team, but to do that in the in
the playoffs is phenomenal. My worst of the weekend is
being the Avalanche realizing the guy that just knocked you out,
left the team because of five hundred thousand dollars. So
(37:50):
that was the contract dispute was over five hundred thousand dollars,
and that you let him go over that.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's tough. Marvin Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
My best of the weekend the dever Nuggets as a
whole balance scoring attack, six players scoring at least fifteen points,
So good for the Nuggets. Worst of the weekend the
Rockets in the paint. They missed thirty two shots in
the paint. No buena, Paul Besson. Worst of the week
Best of the weekend. Buddy Healed of the Warriors thirty
three points yesterday to carry them for the first three quarters.
(38:20):
I did see headlines Steph Curry's late magic wins it
for the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Buddy Hale did not make the headlines. Another best of
the weekend. I don't know what the names of the
guys are the people are who help get the horses
into the starting gate, But man, those guys have a
tough job. You're trying to get these horses in. You're
at a time crunch and you are physically pushing a horse,
and the horses are kicking and you're not wearing like
a suit of armor.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's a tough gig. Tyrese Haliburton had twenty two and
thirteen as the Pacers beat the Calves, and Donovan Mitchell
had thirty three in the laws. So he scored thirty
or more points in game one of eight consecutive playoffs here.
That breaks the record of seven straight set by Michael Jordan,
(39:05):
who did it twice. Ooh a day, Stan Day, Stata day,
Stannata day. This is the style of the day I
brought you by Pennini America. I was telling seton I
was locked in on Facebook over the weekend watching videos
(39:27):
and I stumbled across some led Zeppelin concert videos and uh,
it was just footage from led Zeppelin in concert. And
I remember going to a concert led Zepplin in nineteen
seventy five, and I didn't remember how there's nothing going
on now. When you go to a show now, it's
(39:48):
not like you know a Phish concert or but there's
things going on. The stage is lit up, there's background stuff.
I mean, it's it's wild. And there was nothing going
on with led Zeppelin. It was Robert Plant and Jimmy
Page and then you'd have John Bonham, maybe John Paul Jones,
you know, they'd have him on just a little bit,
(40:09):
but you'd have spotlights on them. That was it. The
audience isn't you know? Lights aren't on in the audience
behind the band. There's there's nothing up there. There's no
images or nothing, nothing. And I was wondering Seton and
I were talking about who started stage presence, and my
first thought was Pink Floyd when they did animals. I
(40:34):
saw them in concert and they had, you know, floating
balloons that were animals, and it felt like it was
more of a stage feeling or present. And then Seeting goes,
well what about kiss and I go, yep, that was it.
I think I'm trying to think of anybody else was
had a big stage performance in in arenas stadiums. Yeah, Seton,
(40:57):
maybe I get you have to correct my timeline on
all this, but I think the who would be in
there too? They well, there's with Tommy. I mean I
felt Tommy was a big, big production, wasn't it. Yes? Yes,
but their performance was usually Townsend smashing his guitar and
(41:18):
Keith Moon falling into his drum kit.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
But that whole like sort of like it's just a
stage with musicians. Yeah, I feel like maybe they helped.
You know, somebody will correct me on this, but like Quadraphia,
stay in your lane. Well, at least I saw these bands,
so I can say I did see them. Stay in
your lane, all right. Two hours in the books on
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this Monday. More of your phone calls, best and worst
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Play of the Day We already had that many plays
of the Day over the weekend. No Plays of the
Day for James Harden in Game seven, once again a
no show and then literally a no show after the game,
didn't show up to talk to the media. All for
their losses. Now I get it, you don't want to
go in there. It's the end of the season and
have everybody bring up all the ugly numbers from all
(01:08):
of your elimination games. You're getting paid forty six million dollars.
It's part of the job. May not like it. Do
ten minutes and you're done, and maybe you give us
insights into something else. Maybe somebody can ask you a
question where we find out more about who you are,
(01:30):
what you're thinking, why it's happened, What are you thinking
in the moment? This you know, this is why you
get paid what you get paid. Because the TV networks
are the ones spending all this money, they would like
to have some answers. What happened? Why do you only
get eight shots? Why is it that you somehow don't
(01:51):
take as many shots as you should? Maybe you could
ask Maybe you would talk about Kwhi Leonard, who had
a wonderful postseason and maybe the future here, but he
disappeared in the game and after the game as well.
I had the NBA title odds and it's a whole
lot of thunder And then the Celtics third on the list.
(02:14):
A distant third is Cleveland, then a really distant fourth
is Minnesota. The Nuggets and Golden State Warriors aren't in
there and you get the Thunder against Denver, and yes,
do you want to see SGA against Joker? You do?
But I'm just curious, like, this is a quick turnaround
for Denver and I'm guessing Oklahoma City. There's a reason
(02:37):
why they're favored by nine and a half because it's
a quick turnaround here. Surprise, surprise. The Cavaliers ended up
losing to the Pacers yesterday. The Knicks are getting nine
tonight in Boston, the Nuggets getting nine and a half, eight,
seven to seven to three. DP show operator Tyler's sitting by.
He'll get to your phone calls coming up. But Golden
(02:59):
State dominated Houston and the Warriors of the third seventh
seed in the last twenty years to advance beyond the
first round. I'm joining the Lakers of twenty twenty three
in the Spurs of twenty ten. But this is a
different Golden State team, not a true seventh seed. And
usually you know, these teams aren't true seven seeds. You know,
(03:22):
this is a three seed, a two seed, and maybe
you over achieved a little bit. You know, Houston was
a wonderful story, but were they the second best team
in the West? Okay, during the regular season, yes, but
postseason that's when things change. You're graded on a curve,
and we saw with Golden State when they need to
(03:43):
they do it. Steph was great in the second half,
certainly in the fourth quarter. Buddy Healed was awesome. Here
is Steve Kerr talking about Steph Curry's performance.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I thought Steph was brilliant tonight. I know he got
off to a slow start shooting the ball, but whole
key to the game was taking care of the ball,
and he managed the game beautifully, and you know it's
just a matter of time before his shot goes in.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But the reason we had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The eleven point lead at half or whatever it was
twelve was because of the way Steph took care of
the ball, got us into our offense, and settled the
game down.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Just having experience, and you could see where Houston didn't
have that. And they've got some really wonderful young players there,
and I hope they stay with the nucleus. I hope
they continue to build just like OKAC has done, just
like Cleveland did. Now, Cleveland did bring in Donovan Mitchell,
but they do have a really good nucleus there. Then
they've drafted really well and that's what I like seeing.
(04:43):
You know, the Celtics, they've drafted. Well. Now you bring
in some of these pieces like Porzingis, but that's a
deep team. Houston's got a young team and a deep team,
and that's the future. In the NBA. You hopefully get
two potential All Stars and then if you can have
a bench that will take you eight deep or nine deep,
(05:05):
that's when you make a long you know, you have
a long season and you make a deep run in
the postseason. These teams have depth, Gotta have them. That
was my big knock on Denver. I didn't think that
they fortified their bench, and maybe Joker would only win
one title, and he might only win one title in Denver,
and I thought this past offseason, you got to load up. Yeah,
(05:28):
I mean, you got this guy that this all time great.
You've got to make sure that you have some depth
because their depth helped them win an NBA championship a
couple of years ago. Gotta have that, all right. We'll
give you our best and worst through the weekend drama
with the Winnipeg over the Blues in two overtimes Game seven.
A whole lot of fun watching that. But Nick Celtics Tonight,
(05:52):
Nuggets at the Thunder Game one. I never know what
the Knicks are going to do. I mean, I know
how they're going to play, but this all always feels like,
what do I expect out of Boston? Is Boston just
going to say we're so much better than you, so
much deeper than you, so much bigger than you, so
much healthier than you. We're going to dominate. And there's
(06:15):
always that little bit of doubt with Boston, always with me.
And maybe it's not fair to them because I think
in modern NBA they kind of created a dynasty. I've
got to win another title maybe to you know, kind
of fit into that category dynasty. But they're there. It's
going to be Eastern Conference finals or NBA Finals, they're
(06:37):
going to be there. And there's no reason to think
that they won't continue to do that. You know, Cleveland
is a good, you know, really good team, but I
don't think they're better than Boston come postseason time. And
I said, Cleveland is going to have their hands full
with Indiana and you saw that the next will give
you a spirited series. It'll be and they just kind
(06:59):
of grind it out and Brunson will hit a big
shot or Josh Hart will go you know, something will
happen where you know you'll you'll have hope with the Knicks.
But I think Boston is just so much better and
just like Oka see with Denver, I just think OKAC
is a extremely deep team. This is where people are
(07:21):
going to see OKAC, maybe for the first time, because
most people probably played the Hits and just you know,
it'll be the Lakers, maybe you would see the Celtics,
you'd see the Knicks. You probably don't see some of
these teams like Houston. This is probably the first time
you saw Houston this year with Golden Steak. But you're
going to see Okasee and you're going to see just
(07:43):
how deep that team is and it's not just SGA.
Kind of a coming out party of sorts. There eight
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A couple other things here. Let's see I played, I
(08:08):
played Russell. I'm gonna play this again just because it's
it's so refreshing, and you want something that sums up
Russell Westbrook. Who better than Russell Westbrook to sum up
Russell Westbrook. You know, my.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Ability to be able to be a force of nature
on the floor is what I pride myself. Phone, So
whatever that looks like, it may be a turnover, it
may be a misshot, but it may be a steal,
maybe a dunk, maybe a mystery, maybe a may three.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's gonna be all of that. It's gonna be everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So you just take it, take it. But how it
comes and whatever happens, you go with it. It's awesome.
Whose career would you rather have, Russell Westbrook or James
Harden Russ?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh okayrus Russ doesn't have glaring Game seven failures.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay, yeah, but he's been kind of kicked to the
curb and James Harden has to Well, Harden is still
like the focal point. And you know, Russ got benched,
already got sent to the bench. He doesn't even start anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
The thing about Russ to me is you'll never have
to question whether he cares or not. Okay, his effort
will always be there. Okay, all right, He's coming out.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's fair. Okay, that's fair, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, I'm with Marvin Westbrook. Seems like an effort guy
who's got flaws, but they're not intentional. And Harden at
times his career felt like he wasn't all in, whether
it be conditioning or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Make it's close, though, Todd.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I'm gonna give the edge to Harden, just because he's
got that cool nickname, the Beard. Russ doesn't really have
her nickname, and he got all the triple doubles and everything.
But if nothing else, if it's fairly even, I'm gonna go, oh,
that's the Beard in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh okay, Seaton went about you, Russell Westbrook Junior the
third or James Harden.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Probably give a slight edge to Harden. I think ultimately
he maybe has had a better career.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, Russ wins the MVP, but there was a time
when Harden he was unstoppable. That but three years in
a row led the league in scoring that damn postseason.
You know, if it was just based on if we
only had regular seasons, everything would be great. You know,
you'd look at Harden, you go, man, he's great. It's
(10:33):
that postseason and those you know damn game sevens. Yes,
they each have an MVP, right, I think they each
have one. Yeah, so they're kind of tied there scoring wise, mmm,
I mean averaging a triple double? How many times his
career Russell Westbrook, that's pretty cool? Yeah? Four times? Yeah,
(10:56):
but you forget Harden is a great passer. And how
many times does Harden had double digit assist seasons? Now,
great score, but also in granted he has the ball
all the time, but you know Westbrook had the ball
all the time too in his triple double seasons, Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Harden had ten or more assists eight different times, and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It's pretty impressive, Like how many guys have had that
in their career? Yes, it feels like Harden at least
his style of play has aged a little better. Maybe
he seems to still be pretty effective. Well, what is
Russ's style to play? All out? It's just like frenetic
(11:40):
up and down. Yes, Todd, it didn't work out, bouncing
from one place to another.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
But also if perception is reality, when you think of
like putting a Big three together, you know Harden's name
comes up with like Big two or three's Russell Westbrook
would never be named as part of the big two
or three of a team.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That could possibly be he was. He was not as much.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
There was hardened every team hard.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Because Westbrook and Durant where the big two, Harden was
off the bench and Okce, so Russ has been the
first or second best player on his team and Harden
was a sixth man back then for okay see and
then all of a sudden, he's going, I'm gonna have
my own team. Get me out of here. I'm going
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to Houston.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, Paul, if I was describing Russ's Westbrook's style play,
it's like he has a twelve second shot clock instep
of twenty four. It's like he's in a hurry at
all times. And for a long time it worked.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, he just and I agree with you that it's
it's energy that leads to something. The problem is it
can also lead to bad things. Boy, he's hustling out there.
You know, you can't take him out. You can't criticize it. Man,
he plays hard, but he helps both teams. It feels like, yes,
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Marton and.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
He's one of those guys where they're lunch pale guys.
But also won the MVP Award like Moses Malone would
be a lunch pale guy. But he's just averaging thirty
and twenty. Yeah, like Larry Bird, like a lunch pale
guy where it's like, you know what, he'll die for
every ball, he'll go for every loose rebound.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That's what Russell Westbrook is.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And he's more aesthetically pleasing maybe to me because James
Harden with the foul bating, it would just throw me off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, but he created a move right like, although do
we give man Wu Genobili credit for the euro step
or Sharunas marcellonas whoever it was. It can't be an
American who gave us the eurostep because it's called the
euro step. But I don't know. Do we go with Genobi?
(13:43):
Man he's a Hall of Famer, but do you go? Yeah,
and he gave us a move. More people do the
euro step than new James Harden's move, right, So man
Wu has had a bigger impact on his one move
than James Harden.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, Pauling Harden didn't at all invent the step back,
but it felt like he mastered it and took it
to an extra step back.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, but who had the step back before that because
it was a step back and over.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Reggie Miller said that he did it a little bit,
and Kobe actually sampled it from him a long long
time ago. Kobe used to do a light step back
in the second half of his career.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, but nothing is egregious. And it felt like when
you watched Harden, you go, that's a travel, clearly, And
then we had the commissioner on he goes, no, it's
not a travel, Like where I'm from, that's a travel, yeah, Pauli.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
That area of the NBA was like if you live
in a town where it's fifty five and everyone's going
sixty five and they go, you know, instead of busting
people just up at the sixty five.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Everybody gets to go sixty five. We're not arresting anybody
for going sixty five, but we would prefer you went fifty.
It's like carrying I'm watching old highlights and it's not
old highlights, but it's where guys just you know, you're
watching Luca his it would be like a waiter bringing
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your tray out like his his hand is under the
ball and then just carrying it like that. And I
kept thinking these guys are so good, like they don't
need that advantage of I got a great handle, and
they let me do things where you can carry the
ball with your handle. It's like the professor. The professor
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was out there playing.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
One.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yes, I've been watching some professor videos. Yeah, yeah, I
stumbled upon Facebook and all of a sudden, I'm watching
Tyson fights, Zach Gallifanakis between two ferns and h just
a couple other things where and all of a sudden,
once they know what you like, and then that's my feed.
(15:53):
It's the same thing. You know, America's got talent with
the Golden buzzer. Been watching that. My wife's like, it's nice.
Are you gonna go out? And I go, yeah, I
don't know. I just watching videos here. Yes, Marv, what's
your name on Facebook so we can look you up? Oh,
come on, But you still didn't answer the question. Yeah,
(16:13):
so what's your name or Facebook? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
I just found Facebook. It's going to catch tell you what, dude,
this is a hell of an era to find Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, there's a hell of a time place in the
timeline to have discovered social media. I see your profile
on there, but I'm not bringing you in. I don't
have anybody. I don't follow anybody.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
You're watching between two Ferns videos on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes some reason. Yes, yes, I'm not on any other
social media. In fact, this really is in social media
because I'm not reaching out to anybody like anybody I
care about. I already you know I can call you.
I don't have to share poems to my wife or anything. Yes, time, and.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Nobody even calls anybody anymore. Everybody's texting each other and abbreviations,
and when people call you, you're pretty much not con
even pick it up. You're gonna let it go to
voicemail anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yes, well you're on Facebook just in time for Mother's Day,
so you can write a post to your wife.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, to my rock. This is harder in crime. Seaton
always goes off on this when somebody is telling you
what they're writing to their wife. I never knew seventeen
years ago.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Not only would I be meeting my best friend, but
the love of it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Oh yes.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
It's to the point now where if my phone rings
and it's a person like I went to high school
and college with my oh no, I think, oh no,
and it's a direct phone call.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm on Facebook, ish book. Yeah she
has time.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I don't like when someone puts a ten paragraph thing
and it sounds like they lost like a spouse or
a father or a cousin or something, and it turns
out it was like the pet turtle or something like that,
and they went on and on about you know what
it's done, how it's devastated the family.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Were sure that they've done a pet turtle.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I've seen guinea pigs and the various, like a golden example.
I don't have a specific example. I've read where it
was like, oh my god, what happens? And as it
turns out, it's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You do lead the league in hyperbole around here.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I do tend to exaggerated times, but I have seen
you know, have you ever had a pet?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I have not wired a wire.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
You never had a pet.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
You've never had a single pet. You've never had a goldfish?
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Nothing?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You ever have a goldfish? Didn't have a guinea pig? Oh,
my friend had one of those birds like a little parrot.
Para key thing where you like.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, I'm asking you, I don't care about your friend. No.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
In my apartment building, in Brooklyn. You know, I don't
even know if they allowed pets. I guess they did, But.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, what about now? I mean, you're got a house.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
My daughter wants to get a dog, but she's in
college so she can go do that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Feels like you're afraid you better buy a dog.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
I got bit by a dog, by my uncle's dog
a couple of times, and then I was kind of
done with about a cat. Okay, I don't trust cats.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
There's something evil to me. It's not going to steal
your car. Your instincts are right on that. Your instincts
are correct. Cats are evil.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I think you know they have that attitude, like you know, they.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Get to come home to a friend every time. They
can't wait to sale o to.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You be more likely to get a dog that a
catch fitzers.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So great, All right, let me take a break. We'll
talk some more hoops coming up. Yeah, I want to
find out this scenario where Luca would not stay with
the Lakers. We'll talk to the guy who wrote the
book on Luca, Tim McMahon and the Mothership. Well, Johna's
coming up. We'll take a break back after this. Fox
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Speaker 1 (20:36):
Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter Band McMahon podcast on the
Hoop Collective and also the author of the new book
The Wonder Boy Luka Doncic and The Curse of Greatness,
as Tim Joyce is from OKC. Before we get to
that series, few other topics. Whose career would you rather have?
James Harden or Russell Westbrook?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Howdy Dan uh kind of look at the career earnings,
They're both way up there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I feel like.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Harden probably when you when you rank them in terms
of the echelons of NBA great and so, I mean
they're both first ballot Hall of Famers and all that.
I feel like Harden lands higher on that list, but
has more scrutiny, and you know, for the reasons you
guys said, his playoff failure failures have been spectacular, where
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it feels like most of Russ's playoff failures, you you
kind of left them well, you know, they just didn't
have the better team and and he didn't get the
same sort of burden on his shoulders. It's crazy how
they've both become journeyman type of guys late in their career.
Now Harden's still doing it at a high price point
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and Hardens still the one decided when he wants to
leave where he wants to go, whereas that's not the
case with the Russ. Russ has been traded twice to
the Utah Jazz over the last few years, and I
played a second, not played a second for that franchise.
That's kind of you know, and and seriously, like with Russ,
you keep on feeling is this his last chance? Is
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this his last chance? And then you know they don't
get another one. Harden's had a much better year this year,
but Russ is still playing and Russ had a much
better game seven, And right now, that's all that really matters.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Whose future mediate future do you like better? The Clippers
or the Lakers?
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Oh, I mean the Lakers just because they have a
generational talent to build around, and they've got to they've
got to build, you know, they they've got to figure
that out. Obviously, depth was a major problem for the Lakers.
I mean, they played five guys for an entire half
of a playoff game, you know something that we've never
seen before, but one the Lakers traditionally have not had
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a whole lot of problems convincing guys. Hey, you know,
do you like the sunshine, do you like the glitz
and glamour, do you like the spotlight?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You might want to come here.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
And you know, Luca is not somebody who everybody maybe
will want to play with, But they've got the other
guys who are gonna have the ball in their hands.
They need to fill out with the role players like
the Mavericks. Did you know the year before they went
to the finals, And you know the primary thing they
need is that lobcatch and rim protect and big man
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and those type of guys will absolutely be lining up
to try to play with Luca in La.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I did wonder when JJ Reddick said we got to
get in championship shape, and I did think of you
because you wrote the book on Luca. How do you
think this was received by him where it's not being
called out by name, but everybody knows he's saying you
need to get in championship shape.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Probably about the same as when Jason Kidd would do
it at end of seasons and even Rick Carlisle at
end of seasons. I mean, this has been something that
has been an issue for Luca throughout his entire career,
even going back to the pre draft process. It was
one of the knocks.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But does his backup what the Mavericks did. Nico Harrison,
His knock on him partly was well he went in
shape and he knew he couldn't play defense.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Well, what I have consistently said is the condition concerns
are absolutely legitimate and still an insane reason to trade
a generational talent munths removed from him leading your franchise
to the NBA Finals when he fully intended to stay
in Dallas for his entire career. So the Lakers' first
shound exit does not justify the trade that was made
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or the condition concerns legitimate. Of course they are, and
like you don't need you didn't need this to know that?
Did people like has there been some kind of like
optometrius revolution suddenly? Like did you not have eyeballs? Were
they not working? Of course, conditioning has been a concern
with him throughout his career. He's still been a five
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time first team NBA player the defense. And here's the
thing where those two things are directly related. Right, Lucas
obviously at his worst defensively when he's gassed, and well,
you know, when you play him the entire second half,
that doesn't help matters. But you can build a good
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defense that protects Luca, that includes Luca. And I'm not
saying like hypothetically, I'm saying it's happened on multiple occasions.
The Mavericks did it. The year they went to the
conference finals, they ranked seventh in the league in defense.
They did it last year when they went to the finals.
They were the number one defense for the final quarter
of the season, and then that continued into the playoffs.
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Even the Celtics series. Luke had some terrible defensive moments.
They lost that series because they couldn't score because the
guys around them couldn't hit shots, and you know, and
his defensive issues didn't help. But I'm saying, so, yeah,
the flaws are the flaws, but no, it doesn't justify
the trade. And I absolutely, you know, like the Lakers
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are ecstatic to be able to have the opportunity to
try to build around this dude for the next decade.
But they've got a lot of work to do in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Can you see a scenario where Luca doesn't stay in La.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, I mean sure, I could come up with scenarios.
I would be shocked if there's not some sort of
extension this summer, ok you know, and what that looks like.
There's a lot of factors. I don't want to bog
you down with CPA Minutia and all that kind of stuff,
but I with what I know of Luca, and I
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haven't talked to him directly about this, but you know,
talking to people who know Luca, well, I think he
absolutely wants to give the Lakers, like he's fully committed La. Now.
His heart was broken, but he's fully committed to the Lakers,
and you know his goal now is to win championships
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with that franchise.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Jim McMahon the spn NBA Reporter, Band of McMahon podcast
on the Hoo Collective and of course the new book
The Wonder Boy, Luka, Doncic and The Curse of Greatness.
Who has a better chance of going further? The Warriors
or the Nuggets?
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Well, I would say the Warriors because they don't have
to play Oklahoma City this round. You know, listen, man, Okay,
see The one doubt about okay See is well, they
haven't done it before.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That's really the one flow.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
This is a team that set the NBA record for
point differential in the season. I mean, they've been absolutely dominant.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
So now, if the Nuggets.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Were playing the Wolves, well, actually I'm sorry, if Snuggets
playing the Warriors, I probably would pick the Nuggets in
that series, but that's not the way the brackets broke.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you know, so I think the.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Warriors have a better chance to beat the Wolves than
the Nuggets do beating the Thunder. I'm not sure the
Warriors have a great chance of beating the Wolves.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm wondering if and I'm just looking at the playoff rosters.
So it's recency biased that.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
It used to be you were trying to get three
big names, three stars. Now it feels like two is great,
but you really need to have depth. Cleveland, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Indiana,
ok See, Boston like they have, you know, two really
good players or one great player and then you have depth.
(28:30):
There is that kind of the model now moving forward
that Okac is put in front of.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Us, well, and I just think that to have a
big three, especially if they're three max guys. It's gonna
be tough to build your roster out from there with
all the handcuffs that are in the new CBA. And
you know, the Suns are kind of an extreme example
of well, they had their big three and you know,
there wasn't a whole lot around that. Plus those three
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guys didn't necessarily they fit very well together, and really
it was a big two and then a huge third salary.
But yeah, depth matters and role players matter. There's only
one basketball, right, so you're not gonna have three guys
scoring thirty a game, you know, but you do. It's
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still a superstars league. Just be clear, Like the Houston
Rockets are deep, they're athletic, they're tough, they're relentless. They
don't have a superstar. If they get a superstar, which
you know will be an interesting summer, the Houston Rockets
have a chance to be right in the thicke of
things as soon as next season. But if you don't
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have and like the Thunder, the Thunder have one superstar,
two all star caliber guys, I would say, and by
the way, we could argue if that Shay Jaylen Williams,
chet Holme win three, Chet Holme win thing will be
a big three soon. But then they played ten guys
by the first second of the and quarter every game,
and it's like a tough decision, Well, which good player
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is not going to get in there? You know, we
got like twelve or thirteen guys with rotation calber dudes
that matters.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Can the next beat the Celtics?
Speaker 8 (30:14):
I mean can? I guess it's hard for me to
kind of figure out the pathway. The Celtics have a
clean injury report now, which is huge obviously with Drew
Holiday missing time last series and Jaylen Brown's been banged up. Porzingis,
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you know, the next need Jalen Brunston to be an
absolute superhero and he's dealing with Drew Holliday and Derek
White and a little bit of Jaylen Brown and then
you know Porzingis and Horford and the paint.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Maybe call Anthony Towns has a series of his life,
but this would be a massive upset.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Karl Anthony Toones, you mean the greatest shooting big men
of all time?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Spigs promote self proclaimed greatest shooting a big man of
all time?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Who is the greatest shooting big man of all time.
I mean, you know, I'm based in Dallas. There's a
German seven foot fellow by the name of Dirt Novitski
who probably would stay claim of that title. I mean,
I guess you could tell me, well, he was a
power forward, not a big man.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
But that's the guy who revolutionized the league as a
seven footer who was bombing away. And that's the dude
who's six all time on the scoring list. Gave him
the nod.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Best shooting center of all time. Now Cat has a
claim there. He has a real claim there. Now you
know the knock there would be.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Yeah, but he's had his most playoff success when they
had to pair him with another big man because he's
not a defensive anchor. Nobody ever accused Dirk could be
a defensive anchor.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Either. He was an anchor. He was being weighed down.
He had an anchor on his back there. But you know,
we were talking about this when you talk about players
who had a signature move that changed the game or
a style like Dirk changed the game for all big men.
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Steph with his ability to shoot threes, Harden to a
certain degree with his.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
To one hundred percent degree. Okay, well, now that step back,
step back changed the game for sure, and what Luca
has done with that that started with Harden one hundred percent.
Like Harden was launching more step back threes than like
the rest of the league combined. Early on during that
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that Houston run and the step back three became a
common weapon because of Harden, just like that one legged
fadeaway became a common weapon because of Dirk. So Harden
absolutely gets credit for the step back revolution.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Now does Sharunus Marshall onas or who gets credit for
the euro step?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I would say is most commonly associated with Genobili. Genobla
is the guy who took it to the next level,
which is always fun to me. I know he played
in Europe, but he's not European, so but no, Genobli
is the one who that became a move that's in
everybody's bag because Genobili had so much success with it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
But it's okay, out of all those moves, what move
is used more by more players more often? Is it
the eurostep?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, it's probably got to beat the eurostep. I think
every every ballhandler has the eurostep, and you know, it's
become a thing where there's so many different variations of
it now and now there's the deceleration where these guys,
I mean, it's really some of the balance is amazing,
where these guys are like balancing on one foot and
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just letting traffic pass by or you know. I mean,
so it just it gets added on more and more
and more and more every year. But yeah, the euro step,
I will go eurostep probably the one later after that,
because it's not just the big man, like I mean,
Durant has it, Lebron has it. You know, a bunch
of these, you know, bigger wings and guards had that
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as well as the big man. And then you know
the step back three And I would say you could
argue the step back three is maybe the most abused
move of those because there are definitely people who are
taking step back threees.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You're like, yeah, maybe maybe maybe we should just move
the ball there. Have fun. We appreciate you joining us, Tim,
Thank you all right, appreciate you having me. Jim McMahon
he is a reporter for The Mothership Ben McMahon podcast
on the Hoop Collective and his book on Luca the
Wonder Boy. It's available wherever you get your books. When
we come back, we will give you our best and
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worst of the weekend. Be sure to catch the live
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Time for our best and worst of the weekend, we'll
get to more phone calls coming up. Former NBA player
Jim Jackson will join his final hour at the program tonight,
(35:12):
Nick Celtics and Nuggets in the thunder around the same
point spread around nine to nine and a half for
both of those visiting teams. Todd, I'll start with you.
By the way, we were revisiting some food stories that
we have here and one Seaton got pizza, a small
pizza after the show, and Todd thinks everything is you know, community,
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and just walk by and goes, now, that's what I'm
talking about and put his hand in there and grabbed
a slice of pizza from Seaton.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Whatever reason, I thought there was a pizza party going on,
and I should have at least asked us.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
So if there was, it was a small, small pizza.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I would Dan order like several small pizzas. It doesn't
make sense anyway, I guess that's.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
What I did.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's turned into several small pizza. Yeah, there was one
small pizza, Todd. It was seatons and you walked No.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
I assume that maybe there's some others that are in
the back that haven't been brought out to the frontiers.
One small pizza falls, but there's a pizza party going on.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I guess the.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
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a picture of Todd looking like you ever see like
almost like chef boyardy or so other word. He's like
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spinning the pizza on top of his seg and it
was for like Fritzy's Pizza or something like that. And
the big catchphrase was that's what I'm talking about. Didn't
sell much, but man, was at a great shirt.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You were so excited. I was great you locked in
on that pizza. I really was.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
And then when scene got so upset with me, I
went from joy to like, oh my god, what did
I do all right?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Best and worst of the weekend Todd to help his
team win four.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
To three at Fenway on Saturday, twins second base when
Cody Clemens hit a sixth inning home run to right
field while the family was in attendance, including his famous dad,
the Rocket Roger Clemens. A fan through the ball back
from the stand, so Cody was able to get his
home run ball. So that was kind of cool that yeah,
Rogers Soason hit a home run at Fenway.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Worst.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
After blowing a two to zero lead to the Dallas
Stars Saturday night, the Avalanche become the first team to
lose seven consecutive game sevens in the NHL playoffs dating
back to two They now hold the dubious record of
being the first team ever in Major League Baseball, NBA
or NHL history to lose seven straight game sevens.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, see O'Connor. Best and worst.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
My best of the weekend Miko Rantonen of the Dallas Stars. Phenomenal,
My guy, not only a hat trick to knock out
your former team, but to do that in the in
the playoffs is phenomenal. My worst of the weekend is
being the Avalanche realizing the guy that just knocked you out,
left the team because of five hundred thousand dollars. So
(37:50):
that was the contract dispute was over five hundred thousand dollars,
and that you let him go over that.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's tough. Marvin Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
My best of the weekend the dever Nuggets as a
whole balance scoring attack, six players scoring at least fifteen points,
So good for the Nuggets. Worst of the weekend the
Rockets in the paint. They missed thirty two shots in
the paint. No buena, Paul Besson. Worst of the week
Best of the weekend. Buddy Healed of the Warriors thirty
three points yesterday to carry them for the first three quarters.
(38:20):
I did see headlines Steph Curry's late magic wins it
for the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Buddy Hale did not make the headlines. Another best of
the weekend. I don't know what the names of the
guys are the people are who help get the horses
into the starting gate, But man, those guys have a
tough job. You're trying to get these horses in. You're
at a time crunch and you are physically pushing a horse,
and the horses are kicking and you're not wearing like
a suit of armor.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's a tough gig. Tyrese Haliburton had twenty two and
thirteen as the Pacers beat the Calves, and Donovan Mitchell
had thirty three in the laws. So he scored thirty
or more points in game one of eight consecutive playoffs here.
That breaks the record of seven straight set by Michael Jordan,
(39:05):
who did it twice. Ooh a day, Stan Day, Stata day,
Stannata day. This is the style of the day I
brought you by Pennini America. I was telling seton I
was locked in on Facebook over the weekend watching videos
(39:27):
and I stumbled across some led Zeppelin concert videos and uh,
it was just footage from led Zeppelin in concert. And
I remember going to a concert led Zepplin in nineteen
seventy five, and I didn't remember how there's nothing going
on now. When you go to a show now, it's
(39:48):
not like you know a Phish concert or but there's
things going on. The stage is lit up, there's background stuff.
I mean, it's it's wild. And there was nothing going
on with led Zeppelin. It was Robert Plant and Jimmy
Page and then you'd have John Bonham, maybe John Paul Jones,
you know, they'd have him on just a little bit,
(40:09):
but you'd have spotlights on them. That was it. The
audience isn't you know? Lights aren't on in the audience
behind the band. There's there's nothing up there. There's no
images or nothing, nothing. And I was wondering Seton and
I were talking about who started stage presence, and my
first thought was Pink Floyd when they did animals. I
(40:34):
saw them in concert and they had, you know, floating
balloons that were animals, and it felt like it was
more of a stage feeling or present. And then Seeting goes,
well what about kiss and I go, yep, that was it.
I think I'm trying to think of anybody else was
had a big stage performance in in arenas stadiums. Yeah, Seton,
(40:57):
maybe I get you have to correct my timeline on
all this, but I think the who would be in
there too? They well, there's with Tommy. I mean I
felt Tommy was a big, big production, wasn't it. Yes? Yes,
but their performance was usually Townsend smashing his guitar and
(41:18):
Keith Moon falling into his drum kit.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
But that whole like sort of like it's just a
stage with musicians. Yeah, I feel like maybe they helped.
You know, somebody will correct me on this, but like Quadraphia,
stay in your lane. Well, at least I saw these bands,
so I can say I did see them. Stay in
your lane, all right. Two hours in the books on
(41:44):
this Monday. More of your phone calls, best and worst
of the weekend, Final Hour Right ahead,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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