May 22, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan reacts to the failure to ban the “tush push” in the NFL and why it's not right to punish the Eagles for something they found that they’ve mastered. NFL insider Tom Pelissero talks about why the vote failed and discusses what happens next with the onside kick as owners mull more changes to the game. Plus, Rhyme-Time with Fritzy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Thursday. We're treating it as
a meet Thursday because we won't be here tomorrow. But
we have polled pork sliders, we have Philly Cheese steak sliders,
lobster rolls, and we have lobster bisk and all of
this on King Sawaiian slider buns.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Who has it better than we do? Nobody?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, Fritzi's here, the Minister of Humor. Also Seaton, Marv
Pauli's out today, yours truly and also the BRGS.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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cards of the program. We'll head to the NFL Owners
meetings coming up. We'll talk to Tom Pelsero, the great
insider for NFL Network. Will stop by, well, so Chris Webber,
(00:59):
Hall of Famer, Well stop pie. We'll recap what happened
at the garden last night. C Webb was on those
great Sacramento teams and I thought they were going to
knock off the Lakers. They were up by twenty four
on the Lakers at home and lost a playoff game
to them.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That twenty two thousand and two.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Two.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, that's a tough series for Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But they didn't blow it like in the fourth quarter
the way the Knicks did last night, in historical fashion.
When you think about it, you're up fourteen, you got
under three minutes to go, you're at home, all right,
take that Pasers, and then all of a sudden, Indiana
comes back and wins it. They tie it and send
(01:48):
it into overtime. And here is the call by Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Indiana with it, Calliverton, take it, He'll go pedal of
free for the gum.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's Kevin Harland on the call with Reggie Miller, and
then Haliburton, thinking he had won the game, gave the
choke sign, and of course it went into overtime and
the Pacers ended up winning.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But when you look at.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The numbers, that's why when somebody says, oh, it's impossible,
or that's not going to happen, or that can't happen,
they have no chance. Teams leading by at least fourteen
points in the final two minutes and forty five seconds
of a fourth quarter, we're nine hundred and ninety four
and oh, since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Stead of the day, stall of a day, stead of
a day, Stanta a day.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
This is the stand of the Day. Steat of the Day.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Brought to you by Pandi America, the Official Tree Cards,
the Dan Patrick Show. You have Game two tonight, Timberwolves
and the thunder Shay gilgis Alexander received the NBA MVP
last night. If you look at the impact of the
nineteen ninety two Dream Team, so that's thirty three years ago,
(03:19):
just look at the math. The last eight years in
the NBA has seen the dominance of the foreign born player.
SGA is from Canada. The last MVP was Russell Westbrook
or was that James Harden American born MVP.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I think it's hardened than Westbrook, Is that what it was?
It was like twenty eighteen, maybe twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Never underestimate the impact that the nineteen ninety four Dream
Team had because we look at it from the perspective of, oh,
you had Mike, Larry and Magic and we dominated well,
the rest of the world looked at it as gosh,
we got a long way to go to catch up
with it. Let's start developing our talent here. We may
(04:04):
be a soccer nation, but let's be a basketball nation
as well. We want to be like Mike or Kobe
or Magic or Larry. And look at the foreign born
players and the dominance that you have. You could say
the top five players in the game are not from
the United States.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Yes, Mark, we can't forget the influence of Vince Carter
in Canada. Yeah, Like it feels like Shay Goos Alexander
was a direct effect of what Vince Carter did in
the early two thousands. Obviously he's not a direct you know,
competitor or whatever towards Vince Carter, but you could see
the influence that he had on Canadian basketball for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yes, And there are a lot of great Canadian basketball
players that we've seen influx with the NBA and you
could probably directly attribute that to Vince Carter and the
role that he played in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Also, NFL tried, Boy did they try to get rid
of the touch push. They were two votes away. Now
do I think it's going to go away next year.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I do. I thought that the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Had the requisite number of votes that this was going
to happen. And then you know, and go back to
when we're at the draft and the Packers coach Matt Lafleur,
he said that they kind of nudged the Packers to
put their name behind it. You guys, hey, will you
guys take a bullet for us? Yeah, I guess the
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Packers want to get rid of the touch push. Okay,
then they didn't have the number of votes. Then all
of a sudden, they table it and they're like, dang, we
gotta work. We gotta work backroom dealings here, and I
think they thought. And then Jason Kelsey went in and
here he is the former Eagles center, and he talked
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about the safety of the play that he would continue
to play if that's the only play that he was
in on. He said, it's that safe. Now they're trying
to bring up health data and it's not there. They're
trying to bring up injuries, it's not there. They just
don't want something this predictable. I have no problem with
(06:17):
the play. I don't, but I think you could have
and you know, blame the NFL for this. They're the
ones that change the rule for some reason. There's no
reason to remove the rule for pushing the ball carrier,
and they did that back in two thousand and four.
So you slowly open up the door for the Eagles
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to do this, and they mastered it. So I'm going
to punish a team because we were the ones on watch,
We were the lifeguards, and we allowed this to happen.
The NFL created this, they blame themselves. You open the door,
and the Eagles mastered this. I don't think you can
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punish one team this way. It's like Bill Belichick and
the Patriots read the rule book differently than anybody else.
I can't punish them for being smarter, better, more prepared.
Oh they're doing it. They're cheating. Well, not everything they
did they cheated, they were just smarter.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Specifically, which ones do you agree with?
Speaker 9 (07:23):
It?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Just out of curiosity?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you know where I stand on to flategate, it's silly.
Tom shouldn't have lied the fact that Aaron Rodgers said
I over in flate footballs and no one cared. Tom
Brady and the Patriots and they have a guy. Okay,
first of all, you can't have a guy named that
a flator. Did Aaron Rodgers have a guy named the
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over inflator? That would have been a dead giveaway. But
the NFL has only themselves to blame for this. For
some reason, they're like, you know what, you can push
and pull, you can treat a ball carrier like he's
a piece of taffy. There's okay. The Eagles were still
going to be successful. If you don't have this, they're
(08:09):
still going to be successful. Every other team can run this,
every other team has this opportunity. Why is it only
the Eagles have mastered this? That would be my question
to the other teams. Now, is it going away? Yes,
they wanted to go away. I understand that it looks predictable. Also,
and I mentioned this to Mike Florio from Pro Football
(08:31):
Talk last time. If let's say the Carolina Panthers had
mastered this, no one cares. This is about the Eagles
have mastered it. Therefore, it's an unfair advantage. If Caroline
is doing it, no one cares. Oh my god, are
we going to care about the safety? No, no one
(08:52):
will care. This has to do with it's the Eagles.
But the NFL doesn't want to make it seem like, hey,
we're singling out the Eagles while you single out the Eagles.
Pole question for hour two is going to be what
seaton o'cunter.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Oh man, let's see we got up there right now,
a very specific poll question, the choke symbol last night
was awesome or a mistake?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right now? That is staying at about fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Let's say it keeps going back and forth just by
a couple percent fifty two here, forty eight there.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
What's a good thing they won? That's all. It's a
lot of serious left, yes, a lot of serious left.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Right. That feels tough.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So you got Timberwolves and the thunder tonight game two,
Panthers Hurricanes game two as well, the passing of jimmersaying
the Colts owner. And I said that the one thing
that will always resonate with me with Jim, aside for
his love for music and collecting guitars, is that he
(09:53):
was the only owner to put his name to let's
get rid of Daniel Snyder with Washington Command, the only
guy who did that. And he didn't care what the
pushback was going to be. He didn't care if they
weren't going to get the right number of owners to
agree with him, but he stood behind it for the
(10:13):
betterment of the NFL, and I applaud him for them.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Yes, Marvin, around the NFL and NFL circles, was Jim
Erse considered to be a good owner. I know he's
a famous owner, but was he considered a good owner?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think he was a player friendly owner. Tony Dungee
would talk glowingly about Jim that Jim, let you do
your job. And I think anybody who was employed wants
you don't want a heavy hand on you. You don't want
to be under somebody's thumb. And I think by all accounts,
Jim loved being an owner. Jim battled a lot, He
battled drugs and alcohol. He talked about mental health awareness.
(10:51):
But I believe by all accounts he was considered a
very good player owner. I did receive a letter today,
Tom you did, yeah, Dear Dan Patrick show. I turned
off the show again the other day because I'm tired
of Dan and Fritzy going at it. Here's what I hear.
Todd says something Dan doesn't like. Todd defends himself, Dan
(11:13):
gives him more grief and keeps the harassment going. Todd
can't just stop and so on and so on. It's tedious,
demeaning and tiresome. Do it off the air, Sincerely, Bruce
in Moses Lake, Washington.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
How about I promise to not do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
If you promise not to say stupid things, then I
promise not to call you out on that.
Speaker 11 (11:35):
That is a big ask, right there.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's a big ask on both parts.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I don't know who's asking is larger, you for Todd
not saying stupid things, or you not finding the things
he's saying stupid.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
Okay, And sometimes I think I'm saying something remotely intelligent
and the rest of the room thinks it's stupid and
looks I don't know in the moment until it's voted
upon by the gang here, like you just said something.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Did you realize though, on the party buns coming up
back from the epic loss at the Jemmy's, that ninety
minutes of stand up singing, telling jokes to no one
in particular might have been too much?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Briefly briefly came.
Speaker 11 (12:11):
Up, but out.
Speaker 12 (12:12):
I was quiet at first, and then I got like
this sudden boost of energer. I was losing my mind
a little in this tube that we were in. Even
though it was a nice party bus, it felt like
we were in a giant MRI after a while, with
the construction and lanes closing and getting back at one
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
But yeah, I could, I could be a little much.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And then you had no energy yesterday.
Speaker 12 (12:27):
And then I yeah, and then I don't want to
say I mailed it in, but I was tired. I
was fighting through exhaustion. Part of it trying to entertain
the trips but being rude. It's Marvin and seeing we're.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
Trying to sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Nobody asked to be entertained.
Speaker 11 (12:37):
No one has to be entertained.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Some of the guys were still saying nobody when you
saw people sleeping. Now, that might happen in your stand
up act, but this was on the bus. We're all
coming back late at night.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, I apologize to.
Speaker 11 (12:48):
Your wife there. She didn't have to be put through that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That was yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Seaton Toad did say yesterday that maybe it was helping
him deal with some like car sickness or feeling clusterphobic
or something, which funny, I was feeling sickness too. I
was feeling sickness as well.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Tell whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, I do understand why Todd Maybe if he was
doing that, then I would understand it did.
Speaker 12 (13:07):
Help to move around a little bit, my mouth going
non stoff an hour and a half. I don't know
what that wouldn't necessarily have to do with, you know,
but I did. The last time we went to the awards,
I started feeling pale and got a little dizzy with
the bumping of the bus.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That wasn't yeah okay, but.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
I had some gram crackers, I had some mountain dew.
It cleared it right up, told myself some jokes for
an hour and a half and.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It was a bumpy ride. It was.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It was, But nobody else got up and did stand
up or did you know singing songs?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Did not just say we.
Speaker 11 (13:33):
Are you so mean?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
To him?
Speaker 11 (13:35):
I told it to no one situation. We've got through this.
Speaker 12 (13:37):
If I say something, it's like, come on, we're just
having fun to content, don't be you know, take things
so seriously. And if I don't say anything, then I
get the I can't believe you take the crap from everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
To start the wrong about that. You're not wrong, I
mean there's a reaction. I get it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There's a visceral reaction to our conversations. And as I
tell you, I love you, I just don't always like you.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
That's fair, that's all twenty three years, you're gonna get
some of that.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Some of that happened. Yeah, I'm sure your wife would
say the same thing about me.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
Yes, that's true. Yes, especial why I get frisky like
on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
See, we don't need that in appropriate.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
I didn't say anything in detail.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
We don't need that. Ryan in Austin, Hi, Ryan, what's
on your mind tonight?
Speaker 10 (14:17):
Hey, DP and the boys? I have a request, but
first Grand Crackers and Mountain Jews. That's uh, it's like
what my three year old wants. I was wondering if
we could get the Miniature of Humor to do his
rendition of the Patriots Nick made him call last night.
I feel like it would be much better.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, all right, Ryan, okay, all right, once again.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How about we take a break Fritzy we could do
and then maybe you recreate. We'll play Kevin Kevin Harlan's Call,
and then you'll do your version of Kevin Harlan's Call.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Let's do it okay once again?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now, am I setting you up for failure? I just
want to make sure you're comfortable with this?
Speaker 11 (15:00):
I am. Can I just kind of go up script?
Do I have to use the exact words of you
can change it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You can do whatever you want. Yes, you're the Minister
of humor. Do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
All right, let me take a break. We'll head to
the owner's meetings. Coming up. I know that the tush
push passed, but it feels like it's temporary. Feels like
it's it's got a year expiration date.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Have that for you?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Coming up, and Chris Weber will join us in the
final hour of the program.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
See web back after this Dan Patrick show.
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(16:32):
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
Before we speak to Tom Pelcerro, NFL Network insider Fritzi
was going to recreate the call and Kevin Harlan last
night on TNT. This was the game tying basket. So
here's Kevin Harland with the call with Reggie Miller.
Speaker 14 (16:53):
So here we go, seven seconds remaining in regulation, one
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Wait, I was gonna play Kevin Harlan and then simple mistake.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So it was like did you see me when I
pointed to Marvion, So then he would play the Kevin
Harlan call.
Speaker 11 (17:12):
I have an astigmatism. It kind of looked like you
appointed me.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I don't have an astick at. I just wasn't paying attack. Okay,
Indiana with it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Halliburton, he'll take it. He'll backpedal a three.
Speaker 15 (17:30):
For the hun.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, that's Kevin Harlan on TNT. Fritzie, your turn.
Speaker 14 (17:44):
So here we go, seven seconds remaining in Regulation one
twenty five one twenty three, New York. The Knicks led
by his money at seventeen, by fourteen with under three,
and by nine with less than a minute. Haliburton trying
to drive the lane he's met by Mitchell Robinson dodge
back down to take a three.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's good, it's good.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Tyras is being mobbed by his Pacer teammates as he
does the Reggie Miller choke sign to the Nick fans
on the delight of my broadcast partner, Reggie Miller courtside
right here with me. They're gonna take another look at it.
It's only a two.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
We're going overtime. We'll pay some bills. This is the
NBA on TNT. Oh my god, you are you are
bright red. Take a breath, breath, can't take a breath.
Tom Pelacero, NFL Network insider. You didn't know you were
gonna get that, did you?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know the the verbal cadence, the speed, the number
of words per second is dead on Kevin Harlan. I
grew up watching Kevin Harlan uh calling Timberwolves games when
they were absolutely awful from about nineteen eighty nine to
the mid nineties, and they'd be down forty points and
Kevin McHale will be sitting next to Kevin eating popcorn
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on the air. The only thing I would say with Kevin,
you're a little in the nose, Fritzy. I think you
gotta get it down. It's a little more down here.
When you do it, you gotta be a little deeper
in the throats. That's the only critique I would have.
But again, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Nine out of ten voted thank you all right?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, what happened yesterday late in the morning and Jason
Kelsey's role in keeping the tush push in NFL vernacular.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's hard to say how many people were actually swayed
by anything that happened in the room. Dan, I would
tell you the people I talked to before the meeting
who told me we're going to vote to get rid of.
Speaker 15 (19:32):
The tush push, they vote against it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
The people who told me we're going to vote against
this this band, they voted against the band. But there
was certainly, you know, a compelling case. And you know,
as I said, I'm sitting there right outside the room,
and I see Jeffrey Leurie, a couple other Eagles officials,
and Jason Walking, and I said to j I go, Jeffrey,
bring in the big guns. He goes, Absolutely, this was
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a very you know, orchestrated plan for them to counter
some of the narratives it had been going around about.
You know, did Jason Kelsey actually like running this play?
Was it actually a reason that he decided to, you know,
stop playing in the NFL. I'll tell you this. You know,
even though this did not pass, twenty two out of
thirty two teams voted to ban it.
Speaker 15 (20:16):
Twenty two.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's that's over two thirds of the teams in the
league voted to eliminate not just the touch push but
all push plays. In the end, it's twenty four. It's
a high bar. It's supposed to be a high bar.
You know they weren't able to pass it. You know
what role would Kelsey and Lurie actually play. I know
what the narratives are, I know what the quotes are
that are out there. I got the sense this was
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always going to be close, but there was a sense
going into the meeting that they thought, the people who
were proponents thought they were going to have the votes.
Ultimately they came up too short.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, because I don't think the commissioner tables this and
then brings it back without having the number of votes
needed to get rid of it, that he clearly wants
to get rid of it if he has to nudge
the Packers to say put your name to this, that
you wanted out. And you know, if you're the Packers,
you come off as, you know, poor losers.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We we get beat by them. Now we don't want
it in the league. And the point that I brought
up earlier, if this is Carolina, does anybody care if
Carolina can run this successfully? I mean Let's be honest,
does anybody object to them doing this if they were
extremely successful.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If they're a five and twelve team, it's not the
national phenomenon. I'm not being asked to go on the
NBC Nightly News with wester Holt to talk about the
push push if it's not a run by a team
that just won the Super Bowl. It's just it's a
different it's a different conversation. But I would say this, Dan,
think about the number of health and safety related rules
that have passed over let's call it, the last two decades.
(21:50):
If you watch a tapel, forget the seventies and eighties,
you watch a game from the nineties, early two thousands,
it's completely different because of you know, the hits on
defensives receivers that you're not allowed to do now, where
you're allowed to hit the quarterback, all the things that
went into taking the crown of the helmet out of
the game, you know, trying to emphasize the spearing rules.
They're all health and safety related changes. This is and
(22:12):
I've covered the league over twenty years. This is the
first time that I can remember that you had the
Competition Committee strongly in favor of a health and safety
related ban on a play that you had the medical committees,
that you had the medical people with the NFL all
saying this needs to be outlawed, and it did not pass.
But this was also the first time that a rule
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is brought forth with health and safety related reasons to
do it where there was no injury data. So that's
the complicated part here is usually these health and safety rules,
it's like a rubber stamp because it's, hey, we want
to make the game safer, we want to avoid lawsuits,
we want to avoid liability, all those things, But you
usually have injury data to back it up. In this case,
(22:53):
what you're arguing is, hey, no injuries have occurred. It's
been run what one hundred and twenty times last year,
so it's been run maybe three hundred times in NFL history.
But the biomechanics, the posture, the amount of mass and
force this could lead to something dangerous that ultimately was
not a compelling enough reason to get the two extra votes.
Now we'll see the NFL is a big data gathering operation,
(23:15):
you know, whether it's from an injury perspective, from a
how many times is this run a success rate? All
those things are going to go into whether or not
this potentially comes up again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah it will.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I also I don't have a problem if the
league says we don't have health data to get rid
of this play. But unlike the kickoff, we want to
be proactive, not reactive to this. We want to get
out in front of this. It's just like, you know,
their player safety. I'm all for that, but I also think,
just like with an on side kick, there's inherent danger.
(23:48):
When you play football, you sign up for this, and
that's what I don't understand with the on side kick.
I get, okay, but it's football. Now you're kind of
trying to bring it back. Now we want to have
a few more kickoffs coming back, like it's either one
or it's either this or nothing. Like I don't think
you can kind of go, you know, not many guys
(24:11):
got hurt on kickoffs last year that we thought, hey,
how about we do this or the onside kick? How
about you kick from the thirty four not the thirty five,
Like what are we doing.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well with the broader The onside kick is a function
of the kickoff rule because of the alignment on the
dynamic kickoff. You can't run an onside kick from that formation,
So yes, you eliminate all the element of surprise, which
is that's the baseline issue here. This is you know, realistically,
there were fifty on side kicks last year. Three got recovered.
That's six percent. The historic rates are like twelve percent.
(24:43):
So you're not thinking this is suddenly going to lead
to you know, twenty more recoveries. You're just hoping you
get a couple more. You see what happens here, But
without the element of surprise, it makes things really, really difficult.
There's not a clear answer, you know, to go back
to the broader kickoff issue that was about you're trying
to reduce the space and speed. It's physics, is what
it is. You're going, Okay, last year they wanted the
(25:05):
return rate to be really low to make sure that
the injury rate went down. Now, okay, it seems like
this is a positive change. Now let's change the touchback rule.
Let's try to generate more returns and see if that
continues to go forward. The NFL generally does these things
very incrementally to make sure that it's not like the
pass interference review, disaster back in twenty nineteen where they
(25:28):
passed a rule before they wrote it and then nobody
could enforce it, and finally this went out forget it.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
We're just not gonna overturn anything.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's what they want to avoid on site kick though,
There's just there's not a clear answer here unless you
really seriously consider the thing that Philadelphia has been proposing
for the last probably five six years, which is a
fourth and whatever fourth and twenty let's call it alternative,
where it's one play, it's make it, take it. That
(25:54):
would be a fundamental change of the game to some
people who think it's gimmicky. But ultimately, Dan, that might
be somewhere along the line where we end up.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Son Pedlserro NFL Network Insider. You can see him on
the Insiders on NFL Network. That's weeknights at seven eastern.
Everybody's all excited about the Olympics. Everybody's ready to go.
They want their medals. I'm just curious the owner's reaction. Now,
they had to pass this, but they also have to
(26:22):
allow their players to be able to play or try out.
I'm guessing, how does this work if I'm an owner
and Patrick Mahomes goes man, I'd love to have a
gold medal. Well, I'd love to have another Super Bowl Patrick,
So I don't want to risk you getting hurt. How
does this work and not hurt feelings?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, I would say this, there's enthusiasm at every level
of this, from the stakeholders, from the league office who
see this as part of their global expansion plans, to the.
Speaker 15 (26:53):
Teams that like the idea of again making.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
More money because if you can continue to increase international revenue,
that's all gonna help the value your franchises. The players,
you know, for the most part, not everybody. There are
some guys who have said.
Speaker 15 (27:06):
I'm not gonna get involved with that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't make money to play flag football, but a
lot of players are going to want to do it here.
But I would say the NFLPA also has expressed, you know,
enthusiasm for this, but they still got to work out
and some of these rules. There's questions about injury protections
and insurance. And you know, even though this is going
to happen in the early portion of the twenty twenty
eight games and so it's gonna end before training camps,
(27:30):
there's still gonna be some players who go, wait, I'm
using my whole off time, my whole spring and summer
to get ready for this, and then I'm just gonna
pop down two days later and go into training camp.
So there's some questions there. You know, unions defend wages, benefits,
working conditions and all those things are subject to further
evaluation here. So those are gonna be ongoing conversations. They're
(27:51):
gonna actually have to come to an agreement. There's like
a round, Okay, we like this idea, we all want
to make more money. Let's work on this together. But
the details still have to be worked out in terms of,
you know, how the process works over the next few years.
And I asked this question to a bunch of the
people who've been involved in these conversations. You know, just
like every other Olympic sport, there's like different qualifying things,
(28:12):
and there are national teams, and you know, you have
this vision of Okay, the you know you might have
Let's say, you know, forget team USA for a second,
because that's the team that's gonna have the most options.
But let's say your Korea and you've got hey, we
can get Kyler Murray, we get Kyle Hamilton, We're not
gonna have him til twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 15 (28:28):
Well, you're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
To qualify before that, and if the current Korean national
team isn't any good, those guys are gonna get left out.
So that stuff, from my understanding, really starts next year
and then heats up in twenty twenty seven. So this
is going to be kind of an ongoing evolution in
terms of what does this look like. Every national body
is going to approach this differently. I would certainly anticipate
(28:50):
USA football fully embraces this and wants all the NFL players,
even though you've got you know, the current team USA
quarterback saying, you know, I think I'm better than Pack Homes.
I said that justin Jefferson come on the Insiders the
other night and I brought that up. I'm like, you
got this guy, I'm like, is there any doubt in
your mind that NFL players could be better than the
current FLAG players?
Speaker 15 (29:09):
He's like, well, man, they you know, they know the game.
But now Patrick Mahomes like, good luck.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Dude's like, there's no way, there's no way you're getting
that spot from him.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Good to talk to you, Tom, Thanks for joining us.
As always, Thanks for having that's Tom Pelsero. He's part
of the NFL Network Insiders weeknights at seven Eastern. Although
I will say this quarterback, who is you know, talking
a big game? You play that port, that that style
of football, flag football differently, I'm not saying he's better
(29:41):
than Patrick Mahomes. He might be better at flag football
than Patrick Mahomes. As crazy as that's going to sound,
it's definitely a different game. If you watched him play,
you watch this guy play it is It's now to
me Jaden Daniels would be the guy that that would
be my quarterback. Like I want you to be running
(30:02):
running away from people. Athletic, you know, Mahomes is athletic.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You're not running away from anybody. But we got a
long way to go before we get there. A couple
of phone calls in Maren in California. Good morning, Maren,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm calling about my dad.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's his birthday today.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He's a longtime listener and just loves the show.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Okay, could you tell me a little more about your dad?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Ian?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
He was loved, he says every day he listens on
the way to practice. He listens sucker on my way
to basketball.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And what's his name? Ian Ian? All right, well, Maren,
thanks thank you for calling up uh Ian.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Happy.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Listen every day.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's see Jay and Delaware. Hi Jay, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (31:10):
Hey, Dereg, good morning and condolencens You guys definitely deserved
that the other night. You know what you really need
on this meet Thursday, A really big stake. And I
also called about Jason Kelsey. I thought it was pretty
convenient that all of a sudden, he's coming out to
(31:31):
protect the play. When he first retired on his podcast,
he straight up said to his brother that he hated
that play and he was glad he never had to
run it again.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think that's fair to bring that back up.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Jay, You're right because the center, to me is the
one who pays the price out of all the players
with the toush push.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It's the center. But Jason Kelsey going.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Door to door at the owner's meetings saying it's a
safe play. Okay, Bob and Montana, Hi Bob, welcome back,
O Hey, thanks DP.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Hey, I'm gonna go off script a little bit.
Speaker 16 (32:09):
I'm actually working in Spokane right now.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
If you need me to go out to Moses Lake
and pay Bruce a visit and re educate about how
great the show is.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
You just let me know.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No, you know, hey, we have people who react like
this that they either tell Fritzy don't take that gruff
from Dan, or they agree with me that Fritzy needs
to listen to me more. But thank you, Bob. I
don't need you to be mindfcer here. Bob, by the way,
has to pay up on a bet. He said we
(32:38):
were winning. We were winning the Sports Emmy and if not,
he'd take a pie to the face and send us
a bottle of bourbon. So Bob, send another bottle of
bourbon and send us a video of you taking a
pie to the face.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Zach and Iowa. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?
Good morning Dan. It's Zach from Iowa.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Actually joined by first time car Maverick Patrick, eight pounds,
nine ounces, one week old. Today.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
We just wanted to.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Call in and say hello. Actually a merch idea. I
think a baby onesie with the first time caller across
the chest.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That the an idea for it.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I like that. We talked about a onesie a while ago.
It was done onesies here and there. Yeah, maybe we'll
revisit that, Zach. And congratulations on Maverick there, good luck
get your sleep. You got to be strategic with a
newborn because those naps when they have two naps and
then all of a sudden they go down to one nap,
(33:40):
and then all of a sudden, maybe that nap doesn't
go as long as you think. And you're trying to
get stuff done and you're going really quiet around the house.
Dog barks. Yeah, yeah, that's why I forget about the
stuff you got to do. Sleep when they sleep, Yes,
you know, everything else can wait. It doesn't matter. You
sleep when they sleep. Man, take those z's. Yeah, all right,
we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
More phone calls coming up, and are we going to
do our pick six?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We're going to do our Yeah, more or less bet
coming up here. I think all right, we'll take a break.
We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Todd's Got Rhyme time coming up. Do you want to
do this now or would you rather wait till the
top of the hour.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Whatever you like, I have it ready to go, but
I know we have other things to attend to. It
can wait till the top.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
TI, Okay, how about I do this?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
We do our pick six from DraftKings, all right, and
then if we have time on the back end of it,
we'll do rhyme time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
If not, we'll do it at the top.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Lovely idea by you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
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the crown is yours. Paulie's not here today, Dylan is
(35:05):
sitting in Pauli's chair, at least for the moment here
with pick six. Hey, guys, thank you TOI playing hurt
nearly chopped off your thumb last night.
Speaker 17 (35:15):
Lost a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, not the whole thing, But you won't get it back,
will you.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
No, it's actually I donated it to the man cave somewhere.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Really.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, this isn't going to be like that scene in
Naked Gun when Ricardo montalban is at the baseball game
and he takes a bite of his hot dog and
there's a there's a finger in.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
It, It'll be like that, but smaller.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, we're not gonna with the lobster roll I got.
Speaker 17 (35:41):
Actually, you guys are in luck. I was fortunately done
prepping all of the stuff, so I was just cutting
an onion at the very end.
Speaker 18 (35:50):
What has onion in it? And today everything? No, don't
worry those onions were you know that I do not
like onions. I've got some onion free options for you.
Like the smell of onions. I just don't like onions.
Speaker 17 (36:04):
Onions satang and all of yes, pretty undefeated smell.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'd say garlic when you walk in, you walk in
and somebody's got garlic going.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You got me?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
What's your blood type?
Speaker 12 (36:14):
If we consume some of your blood blacks because it
can cause coagulation issues if it doesn't match like our
own blood.
Speaker 17 (36:20):
Tip, I think you have bigger issues with my blood
than the type.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Dylan Moore or last nine and a half fingers right now?
Speaker 11 (36:27):
Quick poll question?
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, okay, DraftKings got out.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here, we go more or less we get to we
have to pick. So there's six of us we need
to have. It's called a pick six. Todd, give me
a more or less. With the basketball game coming up tonight.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
I have the new MVPSGA having less than thirty one
and a half points.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 12 (36:50):
Don't you think he may try too hard after getting
the Now he's going to start missing some huts because
he's trying to score too much.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Now, he got like just over seventy percent of the
first place votes over Joker, and then Joker probably got
ninety percent of the second place votes.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
There Seaton more or less.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I'm gonna go Jalen Williams less than twenty and a
half points. He in the first round against the Grizzlies,
he put up some points, but then semifinals against the Nuggets,
he really sort of came back down to earth a
little bit in terms of getting up to twenty and
a half points. I don't know that he's gonna get
there this next game.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, he's one of those players where you go, who
does Jalen Williams play for? And somebody's gonna go Charlotte. No,
he plays for a team that's favored to win the
NBA Championship, Marvin more or less.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
I got Julius Rando at more than nineteen and a
half points. I think with Anthony Edwards's injury, I think
the Timber is gonna call upon him to be more aggressive.
So I got him at more than nineteen and a
half points.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Okay, he's been great. He has.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Not very exciting, but he's great. But he's been good
on what three different teams?
Speaker 16 (38:04):
Are?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Four different teams? He was Who's Lakers, Nicks, Minnesota?
Speaker 11 (38:09):
So he's been a Pelicans.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, so four he's a good He's in the
Hall of Good mar Let's see, uh, Dylan, how about
you because you're gonna be placing this bed for us?
Speaker 17 (38:21):
I am as we speak, Dan, Okay, so I'm trying
to keep track of Okay, so far, so good. I
got Rudy Gobert, your guy less than eight and a
half rebounds less Rudy and the go bearts. That's probably
what I'm gonna eat my words on.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm gonna go with the guy who was guarding Joker
last series, at least in the final game, Alex Caruso
more than one and a half steals.
Speaker 15 (38:45):
Oh like that.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I think he gets that in the first half, the
first half. Yes, that's crazy, that's a that's a that's
that's pick six.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
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Speaker 3 (39:15):
All right, Todd, time to play rhyme time, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, camri Accord, camri accord, Toyota.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
And these words have to rhyme. Toyota be tough to rhyme.
Camera accord. Actually, I think I screwed that one up.
Speaker 12 (39:36):
Camra Accord is the left clue. The right clue is Dallas.
Camra accord is that we're going after a great start
camra accord left side, right side is Dallas midsized.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Uh, what what is a camera?
Speaker 11 (39:52):
What is ad?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
What are those cars?
Speaker 11 (39:54):
The cars?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And they said dollars, cars, cars stars.
Speaker 12 (39:59):
I messed that up, So I confuse you on that one. Okay,
how about Smuckers Clarkson Smuckers clarks Jelly Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Who's Kelly Clarkson?
Speaker 12 (40:13):
Religious speech Crabtree religious speech sermon, Sherman, There you go.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
I love it. How about eleven Yankee catcher? Eleven Yankee catcher?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Munsonson's the second half?
Speaker 11 (40:32):
What would be eleven? That's how we played Againsado.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Georgie.
Speaker 11 (40:43):
How about rear shove, rear shove push?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Very good.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Kyle Carlyle, Kyle Carlyle.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Something Rick.
Speaker 15 (41:00):
Springfield.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
By the way, while we're at the debating this one,
or thinking about, if someone asked, now if Dylan has
the smallest hands on.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
The show, that's a good question. That's a fair question.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Even missing part of his thumb, his hands are still
bigger than Marvin's.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Right there, Bill gets it. That felt go ahead, Tod, It.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
Was actually brand PACER's head, and the answer was Kyle Carlyle.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
So I just screwed up again. I did the answer.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Okay, It's so odd that rhyming not being one of
Todd's strengths.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
He comes up with a segment called rhyme time, but
he can't rhyme head was Kyle? All right?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
All right, all right, let's take a break, let's regroup.
Final hour on the way
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Thursday. We're treating it as
a meet Thursday because we won't be here tomorrow. But
we have polled pork sliders, we have Philly Cheese steak sliders,
lobster rolls, and we have lobster bisk and all of
this on King Sawaiian slider buns.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Who has it better than we do? Nobody?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, Fritzi's here, the Minister of Humor. Also Seaton, Marv
Pauli's out today, yours truly and also the BRGS.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning.
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(00:59):
Hall of Famer, Well stop pie. We'll recap what happened
at the garden last night. C Webb was on those
great Sacramento teams and I thought they were going to
knock off the Lakers. They were up by twenty four
on the Lakers at home and lost a playoff game
to them.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That twenty two thousand and two.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Two.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, that's a tough series for Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But they didn't blow it like in the fourth quarter
the way the Knicks did last night, in historical fashion.
When you think about it, you're up fourteen, you got
under three minutes to go, you're at home, all right,
take that Pasers, and then all of a sudden, Indiana
comes back and wins it. They tie it and send
(01:48):
it into overtime. And here is the call by Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Indiana with it, Calliverton, take it, He'll go pedal of
free for the gum.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's Kevin Harland on the call with Reggie Miller, and
then Haliburton, thinking he had won the game, gave the
choke sign, and of course it went into overtime and
the Pacers ended up winning.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But when you look at.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The numbers, that's why when somebody says, oh, it's impossible,
or that's not going to happen, or that can't happen,
they have no chance. Teams leading by at least fourteen
points in the final two minutes and forty five seconds
of a fourth quarter, we're nine hundred and ninety four
and oh, since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
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a day, Stanta a day.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
This is the stand of the Day. Steat of the Day.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Brought to you by Pandi America, the Official Tree Cards,
the Dan Patrick Show. You have Game two tonight, Timberwolves
and the thunder Shay gilgis Alexander received the NBA MVP
last night. If you look at the impact of the
nineteen ninety two Dream Team, so that's thirty three years ago,
(03:19):
just look at the math. The last eight years in
the NBA has seen the dominance of the foreign born player.
SGA is from Canada. The last MVP was Russell Westbrook
or was that James Harden American born MVP.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I think it's hardened than Westbrook, Is that what it was?
It was like twenty eighteen, maybe twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Never underestimate the impact that the nineteen ninety four Dream
Team had because we look at it from the perspective of, oh,
you had Mike, Larry and Magic and we dominated well,
the rest of the world looked at it as gosh,
we got a long way to go to catch up
with it. Let's start developing our talent here. We may
(04:04):
be a soccer nation, but let's be a basketball nation
as well. We want to be like Mike or Kobe
or Magic or Larry. And look at the foreign born
players and the dominance that you have. You could say
the top five players in the game are not from
the United States.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Yes, Mark, we can't forget the influence of Vince Carter
in Canada. Yeah, Like it feels like Shay Goos Alexander
was a direct effect of what Vince Carter did in
the early two thousands. Obviously he's not a direct you know,
competitor or whatever towards Vince Carter, but you could see
the influence that he had on Canadian basketball for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yes, And there are a lot of great Canadian basketball
players that we've seen influx with the NBA and you
could probably directly attribute that to Vince Carter and the
role that he played in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Also, NFL tried, Boy did they try to get rid
of the touch push. They were two votes away. Now
do I think it's going to go away next year.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I do. I thought that the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Had the requisite number of votes that this was going
to happen. And then you know, and go back to
when we're at the draft and the Packers coach Matt Lafleur,
he said that they kind of nudged the Packers to
put their name behind it. You guys, hey, will you
guys take a bullet for us? Yeah, I guess the
(05:34):
Packers want to get rid of the touch push. Okay,
then they didn't have the number of votes. Then all
of a sudden, they table it and they're like, dang, we
gotta work. We gotta work backroom dealings here, and I
think they thought. And then Jason Kelsey went in and
here he is the former Eagles center, and he talked
(05:55):
about the safety of the play that he would continue
to play if that's the only play that he was
in on. He said, it's that safe. Now they're trying
to bring up health data and it's not there. They're
trying to bring up injuries, it's not there. They just
don't want something this predictable. I have no problem with
(06:17):
the play. I don't, but I think you could have
and you know, blame the NFL for this. They're the
ones that change the rule for some reason. There's no
reason to remove the rule for pushing the ball carrier,
and they did that back in two thousand and four.
So you slowly open up the door for the Eagles
(06:38):
to do this, and they mastered it. So I'm going
to punish a team because we were the ones on watch,
We were the lifeguards, and we allowed this to happen.
The NFL created this, they blame themselves. You open the door,
and the Eagles mastered this. I don't think you can
(07:00):
punish one team this way. It's like Bill Belichick and
the Patriots read the rule book differently than anybody else.
I can't punish them for being smarter, better, more prepared.
Oh they're doing it. They're cheating. Well, not everything they
did they cheated, they were just smarter.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Specifically, which ones do you agree with?
Speaker 9 (07:23):
It?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Just out of curiosity?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you know where I stand on to flategate, it's silly.
Tom shouldn't have lied the fact that Aaron Rodgers said
I over in flate footballs and no one cared. Tom
Brady and the Patriots and they have a guy. Okay,
first of all, you can't have a guy named that
a flator. Did Aaron Rodgers have a guy named the
(07:48):
over inflator? That would have been a dead giveaway. But
the NFL has only themselves to blame for this. For
some reason, they're like, you know what, you can push
and pull, you can treat a ball carrier like he's
a piece of taffy. There's okay. The Eagles were still
going to be successful. If you don't have this, they're
(08:09):
still going to be successful. Every other team can run this,
every other team has this opportunity. Why is it only
the Eagles have mastered this? That would be my question
to the other teams. Now, is it going away? Yes,
they wanted to go away. I understand that it looks predictable. Also,
and I mentioned this to Mike Florio from Pro Football
(08:31):
Talk last time. If let's say the Carolina Panthers had
mastered this, no one cares. This is about the Eagles
have mastered it. Therefore, it's an unfair advantage. If Caroline
is doing it, no one cares. Oh my god, are
we going to care about the safety? No, no one
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will care. This has to do with it's the Eagles.
But the NFL doesn't want to make it seem like, hey,
we're singling out the Eagles while you single out the Eagles.
Pole question for hour two is going to be what
seaton o'cunter.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Oh man, let's see we got up there right now,
a very specific poll question, the choke symbol last night
was awesome or a mistake?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right now? That is staying at about fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Let's say it keeps going back and forth just by
a couple percent fifty two here, forty eight there.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
What's a good thing they won? That's all. It's a
lot of serious left, yes, a lot of serious left.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Right. That feels tough.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So you got Timberwolves and the thunder tonight game two,
Panthers Hurricanes game two as well, the passing of jimmersaying
the Colts owner. And I said that the one thing
that will always resonate with me with Jim, aside for
his love for music and collecting guitars, is that he
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was the only owner to put his name to let's
get rid of Daniel Snyder with Washington Command, the only
guy who did that. And he didn't care what the
pushback was going to be. He didn't care if they
weren't going to get the right number of owners to
agree with him, but he stood behind it for the
(10:13):
betterment of the NFL, and I applaud him for them.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Yes, Marvin, around the NFL and NFL circles, was Jim
Erse considered to be a good owner. I know he's
a famous owner, but was he considered a good owner?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think he was a player friendly owner. Tony Dungee
would talk glowingly about Jim that Jim, let you do
your job. And I think anybody who was employed wants
you don't want a heavy hand on you. You don't want
to be under somebody's thumb. And I think by all accounts,
Jim loved being an owner. Jim battled a lot, He
battled drugs and alcohol. He talked about mental health awareness.
(10:51):
But I believe by all accounts he was considered a
very good player owner. I did receive a letter today,
Tom you did, yeah, Dear Dan Patrick show. I turned
off the show again the other day because I'm tired
of Dan and Fritzy going at it. Here's what I hear.
Todd says something Dan doesn't like. Todd defends himself, Dan
(11:13):
gives him more grief and keeps the harassment going. Todd
can't just stop and so on and so on. It's tedious,
demeaning and tiresome. Do it off the air, Sincerely, Bruce
in Moses Lake, Washington.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
How about I promise to not do that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
If you promise not to say stupid things, then I
promise not to call you out on that.
Speaker 11 (11:35):
That is a big ask, right there.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's a big ask on both parts.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I don't know who's asking is larger, you for Todd
not saying stupid things, or you not finding the things
he's saying stupid.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
Okay, And sometimes I think I'm saying something remotely intelligent
and the rest of the room thinks it's stupid and
looks I don't know in the moment until it's voted
upon by the gang here, like you just said something.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Did you realize though, on the party buns coming up
back from the epic loss at the Jemmy's, that ninety
minutes of stand up singing, telling jokes to no one
in particular might have been too much?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Briefly briefly came.
Speaker 11 (12:11):
Up, but out.
Speaker 12 (12:12):
I was quiet at first, and then I got like
this sudden boost of energer. I was losing my mind
a little in this tube that we were in. Even
though it was a nice party bus, it felt like
we were in a giant MRI after a while, with
the construction and lanes closing and getting back at one
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
But yeah, I could, I could be a little much.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And then you had no energy yesterday.
Speaker 12 (12:27):
And then I yeah, and then I don't want to
say I mailed it in, but I was tired. I
was fighting through exhaustion. Part of it trying to entertain
the trips but being rude. It's Marvin and seeing we're.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
Trying to sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Nobody asked to be entertained.
Speaker 11 (12:37):
No one has to be entertained.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Some of the guys were still saying nobody when you
saw people sleeping. Now, that might happen in your stand
up act, but this was on the bus. We're all
coming back late at night.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, I apologize to.
Speaker 11 (12:48):
Your wife there. She didn't have to be put through that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That was yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Seaton Toad did say yesterday that maybe it was helping
him deal with some like car sickness or feeling clusterphobic
or something, which funny, I was feeling sickness too. I
was feeling sickness as well.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Tell whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, I do understand why Todd Maybe if he was
doing that, then I would understand it did.
Speaker 12 (13:07):
Help to move around a little bit, my mouth going
non stoff an hour and a half. I don't know
what that wouldn't necessarily have to do with, you know,
but I did. The last time we went to the awards,
I started feeling pale and got a little dizzy with
the bumping of the bus.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That wasn't yeah okay, but.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
I had some gram crackers, I had some mountain dew.
It cleared it right up, told myself some jokes for
an hour and a half and.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It was a bumpy ride. It was.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It was, But nobody else got up and did stand
up or did you know singing songs?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Did not just say we.
Speaker 11 (13:33):
Are you so mean?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
To him?
Speaker 11 (13:35):
I told it to no one situation. We've got through this.
Speaker 12 (13:37):
If I say something, it's like, come on, we're just
having fun to content, don't be you know, take things
so seriously. And if I don't say anything, then I
get the I can't believe you take the crap from everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
To start the wrong about that. You're not wrong, I
mean there's a reaction. I get it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There's a visceral reaction to our conversations. And as I
tell you, I love you, I just don't always like you.
Speaker 11 (13:56):
That's fair, that's all twenty three years, you're gonna get
some of that.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Some of that happened. Yeah, I'm sure your wife would
say the same thing about me.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
Yes, that's true. Yes, especial why I get frisky like
on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
See, we don't need that in appropriate.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
I didn't say anything in detail.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
We don't need that. Ryan in Austin, Hi, Ryan, what's
on your mind tonight?
Speaker 10 (14:17):
Hey, DP and the boys? I have a request, but
first Grand Crackers and Mountain Jews. That's uh, it's like
what my three year old wants. I was wondering if
we could get the Miniature of Humor to do his
rendition of the Patriots Nick made him call last night.
I feel like it would be much better.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, all right, Ryan, okay, all right, once again.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
How about we take a break Fritzy we could do
and then maybe you recreate. We'll play Kevin Kevin Harlan's Call,
and then you'll do your version of Kevin Harlan's Call.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Let's do it okay once again?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now, am I setting you up for failure? I just
want to make sure you're comfortable with this?
Speaker 11 (15:00):
I am. Can I just kind of go up script?
Do I have to use the exact words of you
can change it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You can do whatever you want. Yes, you're the Minister
of humor. Do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
All right, let me take a break. We'll head to
the owner's meetings. Coming up. I know that the tush
push passed, but it feels like it's temporary. Feels like
it's it's got a year expiration date.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Have that for you?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Coming up, and Chris Weber will join us in the
final hour of the program.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
See web back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
Before we speak to Tom Pelcerro, NFL Network insider Fritzi
was going to recreate the call and Kevin Harlan last
night on TNT. This was the game tying basket. So
here's Kevin Harland with the call with Reggie Miller.
Speaker 14 (16:53):
So here we go, seven seconds remaining in regulation, one
twenty five.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Wait, I was gonna play Kevin Harlan and then simple mistake.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So it was like did you see me when I
pointed to Marvion, So then he would play the Kevin
Harlan call.
Speaker 11 (17:12):
I have an astigmatism. It kind of looked like you
appointed me.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I don't have an astick at. I just wasn't paying attack. Okay,
Indiana with it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Halliburton, he'll take it. He'll backpedal a three.
Speaker 15 (17:30):
For the hun.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, that's Kevin Harlan on TNT. Fritzie, your turn.
Speaker 14 (17:44):
So here we go, seven seconds remaining in Regulation one
twenty five one twenty three, New York. The Knicks led
by his money at seventeen, by fourteen with under three,
and by nine with less than a minute. Haliburton trying
to drive the lane he's met by Mitchell Robinson dodge
back down to take a three.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's good, it's good.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Tyras is being mobbed by his Pacer teammates as he
does the Reggie Miller choke sign to the Nick fans
on the delight of my broadcast partner, Reggie Miller courtside
right here with me. They're gonna take another look at it.
It's only a two.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
We're going overtime. We'll pay some bills. This is the
NBA on TNT. Oh my god, you are you are
bright red. Take a breath, breath, can't take a breath.
Tom Pelacero, NFL Network insider. You didn't know you were
gonna get that, did you?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know the the verbal cadence, the speed, the number
of words per second is dead on Kevin Harlan. I
grew up watching Kevin Harlan uh calling Timberwolves games when
they were absolutely awful from about nineteen eighty nine to
the mid nineties, and they'd be down forty points and
Kevin McHale will be sitting next to Kevin eating popcorn
(18:54):
on the air. The only thing I would say with Kevin,
you're a little in the nose, Fritzy. I think you
gotta get it down. It's a little more down here.
When you do it, you gotta be a little deeper
in the throats. That's the only critique I would have.
But again, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Nine out of ten voted thank you all right?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, what happened yesterday late in the morning and Jason
Kelsey's role in keeping the tush push in NFL vernacular.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's hard to say how many people were actually swayed
by anything that happened in the room. Dan, I would
tell you the people I talked to before the meeting
who told me we're going to vote to get rid of.
Speaker 15 (19:32):
The tush push, they vote against it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
The people who told me we're going to vote against
this this band, they voted against the band. But there
was certainly, you know, a compelling case. And you know,
as I said, I'm sitting there right outside the room,
and I see Jeffrey Leurie, a couple other Eagles officials,
and Jason Walking, and I said to j I go, Jeffrey,
bring in the big guns. He goes, Absolutely, this was
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a very you know, orchestrated plan for them to counter
some of the narratives it had been going around about.
You know, did Jason Kelsey actually like running this play?
Was it actually a reason that he decided to, you know,
stop playing in the NFL. I'll tell you this. You know,
even though this did not pass, twenty two out of
thirty two teams voted to ban it.
Speaker 15 (20:16):
Twenty two.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's that's over two thirds of the teams in the
league voted to eliminate not just the touch push but
all push plays. In the end, it's twenty four. It's
a high bar. It's supposed to be a high bar.
You know they weren't able to pass it. You know
what role would Kelsey and Lurie actually play. I know
what the narratives are, I know what the quotes are
that are out there. I got the sense this was
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always going to be close, but there was a sense
going into the meeting that they thought, the people who
were proponents thought they were going to have the votes.
Ultimately they came up too short.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, because I don't think the commissioner tables this and
then brings it back without having the number of votes
needed to get rid of it, that he clearly wants
to get rid of it if he has to nudge
the Packers to say put your name to this, that
you wanted out. And you know, if you're the Packers,
you come off as, you know, poor losers.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We we get beat by them. Now we don't want
it in the league. And the point that I brought
up earlier, if this is Carolina, does anybody care if
Carolina can run this successfully? I mean Let's be honest,
does anybody object to them doing this if they were
extremely successful.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If they're a five and twelve team, it's not the
national phenomenon. I'm not being asked to go on the
NBC Nightly News with wester Holt to talk about the
push push if it's not a run by a team
that just won the Super Bowl. It's just it's a
different it's a different conversation. But I would say this, Dan,
think about the number of health and safety related rules
that have passed over let's call it, the last two decades.
(21:50):
If you watch a tapel, forget the seventies and eighties,
you watch a game from the nineties, early two thousands,
it's completely different because of you know, the hits on
defensives receivers that you're not allowed to do now, where
you're allowed to hit the quarterback, all the things that
went into taking the crown of the helmet out of
the game, you know, trying to emphasize the spearing rules.
They're all health and safety related changes. This is and
(22:12):
I've covered the league over twenty years. This is the
first time that I can remember that you had the
Competition Committee strongly in favor of a health and safety
related ban on a play that you had the medical committees,
that you had the medical people with the NFL all
saying this needs to be outlawed, and it did not pass.
But this was also the first time that a rule
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is brought forth with health and safety related reasons to
do it where there was no injury data. So that's
the complicated part here is usually these health and safety rules,
it's like a rubber stamp because it's, hey, we want
to make the game safer, we want to avoid lawsuits,
we want to avoid liability, all those things, But you
usually have injury data to back it up. In this case,
(22:53):
what you're arguing is, hey, no injuries have occurred. It's
been run what one hundred and twenty times last year,
so it's been run maybe three hundred times in NFL history.
But the biomechanics, the posture, the amount of mass and
force this could lead to something dangerous that ultimately was
not a compelling enough reason to get the two extra votes.
Now we'll see the NFL is a big data gathering operation,
(23:15):
you know, whether it's from an injury perspective, from a
how many times is this run a success rate? All
those things are going to go into whether or not
this potentially comes up again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah it will.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
But I also I don't have a problem if the
league says we don't have health data to get rid
of this play. But unlike the kickoff, we want to
be proactive, not reactive to this. We want to get
out in front of this. It's just like, you know,
their player safety. I'm all for that, but I also think,
just like with an on side kick, there's inherent danger.
(23:48):
When you play football, you sign up for this, and
that's what I don't understand with the on side kick.
I get, okay, but it's football. Now you're kind of
trying to bring it back. Now we want to have
a few more kickoffs coming back, like it's either one
or it's either this or nothing. Like I don't think
you can kind of go, you know, not many guys
(24:11):
got hurt on kickoffs last year that we thought, hey,
how about we do this or the onside kick? How
about you kick from the thirty four not the thirty five,
Like what are we doing.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well with the broader The onside kick is a function
of the kickoff rule because of the alignment on the
dynamic kickoff. You can't run an onside kick from that formation,
So yes, you eliminate all the element of surprise, which
is that's the baseline issue here. This is you know, realistically,
there were fifty on side kicks last year. Three got recovered.
That's six percent. The historic rates are like twelve percent.
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So you're not thinking this is suddenly going to lead
to you know, twenty more recoveries. You're just hoping you
get a couple more. You see what happens here, But
without the element of surprise, it makes things really, really difficult.
There's not a clear answer, you know, to go back
to the broader kickoff issue that was about you're trying
to reduce the space and speed. It's physics, is what
it is. You're going, Okay, last year they wanted the
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return rate to be really low to make sure that
the injury rate went down. Now, okay, it seems like
this is a positive change. Now let's change the touchback rule.
Let's try to generate more returns and see if that
continues to go forward. The NFL generally does these things
very incrementally to make sure that it's not like the
pass interference review, disaster back in twenty nineteen where they
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passed a rule before they wrote it and then nobody
could enforce it, and finally this went out forget it.
Speaker 15 (25:32):
We're just not gonna overturn anything.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's what they want to avoid on site kick though,
There's just there's not a clear answer here unless you
really seriously consider the thing that Philadelphia has been proposing
for the last probably five six years, which is a
fourth and whatever fourth and twenty let's call it alternative,
where it's one play, it's make it, take it. That
(25:54):
would be a fundamental change of the game to some
people who think it's gimmicky. But ultimately, Dan, that might
be somewhere along the line where we end up.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Son Pedlserro NFL Network Insider. You can see him on
the Insiders on NFL Network. That's weeknights at seven eastern.
Everybody's all excited about the Olympics. Everybody's ready to go.
They want their medals. I'm just curious the owner's reaction. Now,
they had to pass this, but they also have to
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allow their players to be able to play or try out.
I'm guessing, how does this work if I'm an owner
and Patrick Mahomes goes man, I'd love to have a
gold medal. Well, I'd love to have another Super Bowl Patrick,
So I don't want to risk you getting hurt. How
does this work and not hurt feelings?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, I would say this, there's enthusiasm at every level
of this, from the stakeholders, from the league office who
see this as part of their global expansion plans, to the.
Speaker 15 (26:53):
Teams that like the idea of again making.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
More money because if you can continue to increase international revenue,
that's all gonna help the value your franchises. The players,
you know, for the most part, not everybody. There are
some guys who have said.
Speaker 15 (27:06):
I'm not gonna get involved with that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't make money to play flag football, but a
lot of players are going to want to do it here.
But I would say the NFLPA also has expressed, you know,
enthusiasm for this, but they still got to work out
and some of these rules. There's questions about injury protections
and insurance. And you know, even though this is going
to happen in the early portion of the twenty twenty
eight games and so it's gonna end before training camps,
(27:30):
there's still gonna be some players who go, wait, I'm
using my whole off time, my whole spring and summer
to get ready for this, and then I'm just gonna
pop down two days later and go into training camp.
So there's some questions there. You know, unions defend wages, benefits,
working conditions and all those things are subject to further
evaluation here. So those are gonna be ongoing conversations. They're
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gonna actually have to come to an agreement. There's like
a round, Okay, we like this idea, we all want
to make more money. Let's work on this together. But
the details still have to be worked out in terms of,
you know, how the process works over the next few years.
And I asked this question to a bunch of the
people who've been involved in these conversations. You know, just
like every other Olympic sport, there's like different qualifying things,
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and there are national teams, and you know, you have
this vision of Okay, the you know you might have
Let's say, you know, forget team USA for a second,
because that's the team that's gonna have the most options.
But let's say your Korea and you've got hey, we
can get Kyler Murray, we get Kyle Hamilton, We're not
gonna have him til twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 15 (28:28):
Well, you're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
To qualify before that, and if the current Korean national
team isn't any good, those guys are gonna get left out.
So that stuff, from my understanding, really starts next year
and then heats up in twenty twenty seven. So this
is going to be kind of an ongoing evolution in
terms of what does this look like. Every national body
is going to approach this differently. I would certainly anticipate
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USA football fully embraces this and wants all the NFL players,
even though you've got you know, the current team USA
quarterback saying, you know, I think I'm better than Pack Homes.
I said that justin Jefferson come on the Insiders the
other night and I brought that up. I'm like, you
got this guy, I'm like, is there any doubt in
your mind that NFL players could be better than the
current FLAG players?
Speaker 15 (29:09):
He's like, well, man, they you know, they know the game.
But now Patrick Mahomes like, good luck.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Dude's like, there's no way, there's no way you're getting
that spot from him.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Good to talk to you, Tom, Thanks for joining us.
As always, Thanks for having that's Tom Pelsero. He's part
of the NFL Network Insiders weeknights at seven Eastern. Although
I will say this quarterback, who is you know, talking
a big game? You play that port, that that style
of football, flag football differently, I'm not saying he's better
(29:41):
than Patrick Mahomes. He might be better at flag football
than Patrick Mahomes. As crazy as that's going to sound,
it's definitely a different game. If you watched him play,
you watch this guy play it is It's now to
me Jaden Daniels would be the guy that that would
be my quarterback. Like I want you to be running
(30:02):
running away from people. Athletic, you know, Mahomes is athletic.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You're not running away from anybody. But we got a
long way to go before we get there. A couple
of phone calls in Maren in California. Good morning, Maren,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm calling about my dad.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's his birthday today.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He's a longtime listener and just loves the show.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Okay, could you tell me a little more about your dad?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Ian?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
He was loved, he says every day he listens on
the way to practice. He listens sucker on my way
to basketball.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And what's his name? Ian Ian? All right, well, Maren,
thanks thank you for calling up uh Ian.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Happy.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Listen every day.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's see Jay and Delaware. Hi Jay, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (31:10):
Hey, Dereg, good morning and condolencens You guys definitely deserved
that the other night. You know what you really need
on this meet Thursday, A really big stake. And I
also called about Jason Kelsey. I thought it was pretty
convenient that all of a sudden, he's coming out to
(31:31):
protect the play. When he first retired on his podcast,
he straight up said to his brother that he hated
that play and he was glad he never had to
run it again.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think that's fair to bring that back up.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Jay, You're right because the center, to me is the
one who pays the price out of all the players
with the toush push.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It's the center. But Jason Kelsey going.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Door to door at the owner's meetings saying it's a
safe play. Okay, Bob and Montana, Hi Bob, welcome back,
O Hey, thanks DP.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Hey, I'm gonna go off script a little bit.
Speaker 16 (32:09):
I'm actually working in Spokane right now.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
If you need me to go out to Moses Lake
and pay Bruce a visit and re educate about how
great the show is.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
You just let me know.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
No, you know, hey, we have people who react like
this that they either tell Fritzy don't take that gruff
from Dan, or they agree with me that Fritzy needs
to listen to me more. But thank you, Bob. I
don't need you to be mindfcer here. Bob, by the way,
has to pay up on a bet. He said we
(32:38):
were winning. We were winning the Sports Emmy and if not,
he'd take a pie to the face and send us
a bottle of bourbon. So Bob, send another bottle of
bourbon and send us a video of you taking a
pie to the face.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Zach and Iowa. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?
Good morning Dan. It's Zach from Iowa.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Actually joined by first time car Maverick Patrick, eight pounds,
nine ounces, one week old. Today.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
We just wanted to.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Call in and say hello. Actually a merch idea. I
think a baby onesie with the first time caller across
the chest.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That the an idea for it.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I like that. We talked about a onesie a while ago.
It was done onesies here and there. Yeah, maybe we'll
revisit that, Zach. And congratulations on Maverick there, good luck
get your sleep. You got to be strategic with a
newborn because those naps when they have two naps and
then all of a sudden they go down to one nap,
(33:40):
and then all of a sudden, maybe that nap doesn't
go as long as you think. And you're trying to
get stuff done and you're going really quiet around the house.
Dog barks. Yeah, yeah, that's why I forget about the
stuff you got to do. Sleep when they sleep, Yes,
you know, everything else can wait. It doesn't matter. You
sleep when they sleep. Man, take those z's. Yeah, all right,
we'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
More phone calls coming up, and are we going to
do our pick six?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We're going to do our Yeah, more or less bet
coming up here. I think all right, we'll take a break.
We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Todd's Got Rhyme time coming up. Do you want to
do this now or would you rather wait till the
top of the hour.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Whatever you like, I have it ready to go, but
I know we have other things to attend to. It
can wait till the top.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
TI, Okay, how about I do this?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
We do our pick six from DraftKings, all right, and
then if we have time on the back end of it,
we'll do rhyme time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
If not, we'll do it at the top.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Lovely idea by you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
So ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs,
check out Pick six from DraftKings. Download DraftKings Pick six app.
Now use code Patrick, so code Patrick. New customers. You
play five dollars, you get fifty and pick six credits,
better payouns, bigger wins only with pick six from DraftKings,
the crown is yours. Paulie's not here today, Dylan is
(35:05):
sitting in Pauli's chair, at least for the moment here
with pick six. Hey, guys, thank you TOI playing hurt
nearly chopped off your thumb last night.
Speaker 17 (35:15):
Lost a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, not the whole thing, But you won't get it back,
will you.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
No, it's actually I donated it to the man cave somewhere.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Really.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, this isn't going to be like that scene in
Naked Gun when Ricardo montalban is at the baseball game
and he takes a bite of his hot dog and
there's a there's a finger in.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
It, It'll be like that, but smaller.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, we're not gonna with the lobster roll I got.
Speaker 17 (35:41):
Actually, you guys are in luck. I was fortunately done
prepping all of the stuff, so I was just cutting
an onion at the very end.
Speaker 18 (35:50):
What has onion in it? And today everything? No, don't
worry those onions were you know that I do not
like onions. I've got some onion free options for you.
Like the smell of onions. I just don't like onions.
Speaker 17 (36:04):
Onions satang and all of yes, pretty undefeated smell.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'd say garlic when you walk in, you walk in
and somebody's got garlic going.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You got me?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
What's your blood type?
Speaker 12 (36:14):
If we consume some of your blood blacks because it
can cause coagulation issues if it doesn't match like our
own blood.
Speaker 17 (36:20):
Tip, I think you have bigger issues with my blood
than the type.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Dylan Moore or last nine and a half fingers right now?
Speaker 11 (36:27):
Quick poll question?
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, okay, DraftKings got out.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here, we go more or less we get to we
have to pick. So there's six of us we need
to have. It's called a pick six. Todd, give me
a more or less. With the basketball game coming up tonight.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
I have the new MVPSGA having less than thirty one
and a half points.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 12 (36:50):
Don't you think he may try too hard after getting
the Now he's going to start missing some huts because
he's trying to score too much.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Now, he got like just over seventy percent of the
first place votes over Joker, and then Joker probably got
ninety percent of the second place votes.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
There Seaton more or less.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I'm gonna go Jalen Williams less than twenty and a
half points. He in the first round against the Grizzlies,
he put up some points, but then semifinals against the Nuggets,
he really sort of came back down to earth a
little bit in terms of getting up to twenty and
a half points. I don't know that he's gonna get
there this next game.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, he's one of those players where you go, who
does Jalen Williams play for? And somebody's gonna go Charlotte. No,
he plays for a team that's favored to win the
NBA Championship, Marvin more or less.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
I got Julius Rando at more than nineteen and a
half points. I think with Anthony Edwards's injury, I think
the Timber is gonna call upon him to be more aggressive.
So I got him at more than nineteen and a
half points.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Okay, he's been great. He has.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Not very exciting, but he's great. But he's been good
on what three different teams?
Speaker 16 (38:04):
Are?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Four different teams? He was Who's Lakers, Nicks, Minnesota?
Speaker 11 (38:09):
So he's been a Pelicans.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, so four he's a good He's in the
Hall of Good mar Let's see, uh, Dylan, how about
you because you're gonna be placing this bed for us?
Speaker 17 (38:21):
I am as we speak, Dan, Okay, so I'm trying
to keep track of Okay, so far, so good. I
got Rudy Gobert, your guy less than eight and a
half rebounds less Rudy and the go bearts. That's probably
what I'm gonna eat my words on.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm gonna go with the guy who was guarding Joker
last series, at least in the final game, Alex Caruso
more than one and a half steals.
Speaker 15 (38:45):
Oh like that.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I think he gets that in the first half, the
first half. Yes, that's crazy, that's a that's a that's
that's pick six.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
That we've done it. DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You can win some real cash during the basketball playoff
Pick six from DraftKings. Download the pick six app and
use the code Patrick. So code Patrick. New customers get
five pay five dollars, get fifty in pick Sikes credits,
better payouts, bigger wins only with uh Pick six from
DraftKings to crown Is Shores.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
All right, Todd, time to play rhyme time, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, camri Accord, camri accord, Toyota.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
And these words have to rhyme. Toyota be tough to rhyme.
Camera accord. Actually, I think I screwed that one up.
Speaker 12 (39:36):
Camra Accord is the left clue. The right clue is Dallas.
Camra accord is that we're going after a great start
camra accord left side, right side is Dallas midsized.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Uh, what what is a camera?
Speaker 11 (39:52):
What is ad?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
What are those cars?
Speaker 11 (39:54):
The cars?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And they said dollars, cars, cars stars.
Speaker 12 (39:59):
I messed that up, So I confuse you on that one. Okay,
how about Smuckers Clarkson Smuckers clarks Jelly Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Who's Kelly Clarkson?
Speaker 12 (40:13):
Religious speech Crabtree religious speech sermon, Sherman, There you go.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
I love it. How about eleven Yankee catcher? Eleven Yankee catcher?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Munsonson's the second half?
Speaker 11 (40:32):
What would be eleven? That's how we played Againsado.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Georgie.
Speaker 11 (40:43):
How about rear shove, rear shove push?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Very good.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Kyle Carlyle, Kyle Carlyle.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Something Rick.
Speaker 15 (41:00):
Springfield.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
By the way, while we're at the debating this one,
or thinking about, if someone asked, now if Dylan has
the smallest hands on.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
The show, that's a good question. That's a fair question.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Even missing part of his thumb, his hands are still
bigger than Marvin's.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Right there, Bill gets it. That felt go ahead, Tod, It.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
Was actually brand PACER's head, and the answer was Kyle Carlyle.
Speaker 11 (41:30):
So I just screwed up again. I did the answer.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Okay, It's so odd that rhyming not being one of
Todd's strengths.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
He comes up with a segment called rhyme time, but
he can't rhyme head was Kyle? All right?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
All right, all right, let's take a break, let's regroup.
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