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August 21, 2025 41 mins

Dan reminds us how valuable a good backup QB is for NFL teams as the Chicago Bears pony up big cash to backup QB Tyson Bagent. He addresses Eric Dickerson’s speculation that NFL teams were told not to draft Shedeur Sanders. And NFL insider Albert Breer drops by to weigh in on the idea of having a Super Bowl in London.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, Dan and the Dannetz Dan Patrick Show
got a few NFL topics and I didn't think that
we would have a Jim Harball should be suspended by
the NFL Commissioner topics today. But Urban Meyer, on a podcast,
the Fox analyst and former coach, said, if you're going
to punish Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel back in

(00:28):
twenty eleven when he got to the NFL after being
punished at Ohio State, he got suspended six games, why
shouldn't Jim Harbaugh be suspended. We'll talk to Albert Breer,
the Monday Morning Quarterback. We'll have that for him. Also,
the Ambassador to the United Kingdom is lobbying for the
Super Bowl to be played in London. Can you look

(00:51):
at the dates, Paulie, of how many Super Bowls already
have dates locked in? I know we have San Francisco
and we have Los Angeles. Do we go back to
we have Atlanta? Then after that, after that nothing is scheduled.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
So Atlanta the next three San Francisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta
twenty twenty nine is up in the air and everything Forward.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
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number eight seven seven to three DP show whole question, Seaton.
I think we had a couple of them an hour one. Heck,
yeah we did.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Uh well, we've got one that we've had numerous times before.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Whose career would you rather have?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Chase Daniel or Isaiah Pacheco?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Seventy two percent of the audience have Chase Daniel.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So Chase started five games in his NFL career, He's
a great analyst. Isaiah Pacheco has won two Super Bowls
with the Chiefs. This is a Paul special. So he
hasn't gotten paid. I think he's got three million, maybe
four million dollars. He's gotten paid. Chase Daniel made forty
million dollars. I opted for Isaiah Pacheco. I'm all about

(02:04):
team and winning. Where's the Dannants all sided with Chase
Daniel because of forty million dollars?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yes, Paul, it does show the difference between even backup
quarterback money and starting running back money in the NFL,
it's pretty close. Like you would have to be a
pretty good NFL running back to make more than five
million dollars a year these days, and I think.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
That's probably pretty average for a backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, let's look at backup quarterbacks from last year. Yeah,
Jared Stidham with the Broncos made six million. Marcus Mariota
made six million with the Commanders. Tyrod Taylor made six
million with the Jets. Now that's a high end backup.
Trey Lance made five point three million with the Cowboys,
Drew Locke five million with the Giants, Joe Flacco made

(02:49):
four and a half with the Colts. And then who's
your guy? Uh, what is it? Tyler Beagent? Tyson Beagent,
Tyson Beagent? Is the Division two? Yes, okay, he signed
a two year deal, I think for ten million dollars
with the Bears. And this was his reaction yesterday.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
You know a lot of people don't know this, but
you know, my dad is my he's my right hand man,
and he didn't he didn't have running water until he
was in high school. So there's definitely a lot of
things that and people that I could that I think
I could certainly help with this gift I've been blessed with.
But yeah, just little things like that. But you know,
I don't really know anybody back at home with any money.

(03:32):
So yeah, it feels good. I mean, it's certainly a
weight off my shoulders and my family shoulders, and yeah,
it definitely means a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh good for him, he got the opportunity. You know
what it means to him. He doesn't come from money.
He's going to make more by December than Isaiah Pacheco
has made. Is the starting in his career as the
running back, starting running back for the Kansas City Chiefs.
But Tyson Beaija And it's a two year deal for
ten million, could go up to sixteen million dollars. And

(04:05):
you're signing these guys and you hope they don't play,
because if they do play, then something happened to your starter.
But if you're a good team, playoff team, then you're
gonna you might rely on those guys or have to
rely on those guys to salvage's season. And you know
it pays to be a backup quarterback if you're getting

(04:26):
five or six million dollars to be a backup, and
you know the fan base is hoping you don't play.
The team is probably hoping you don't play because that
means the starter got injured.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, Pauling, I've got the updated salaries and guys like
Tyrod Taylor, he's making six million again this year. And
there's a guy who's gonna make forty million dollars in
his career. A couple of chances at the start, but
you know, Kenny Pickett's making three, Mason Rudolph is making
four million, Davis mill is making five million to hopefully
never play. Nick Mullins makes three, et cetera, et cetera.

(04:58):
Who do you think? I don't know if we could
do this technically. Who is the highest paid backup quarterback
in the NFL right now? A bit of a trick question.
I'll give you a hint. He makes forty five million
dollars this upcoming season. Kirkshan Kirk Cousins, Kirk d Cousins

(05:21):
his list as second string. He's making forty five million
dollars for this season.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Former NFL running back Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson was
on the Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete radio show on
AM five seventy, and he had this to say about
teams not drafting Shadoor Sanders.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
And I'll tell you this as much yre what I
and what I heard from someone that's in the NFL
that the NFL put it told other don't draft him,
do not draft him. We're gonna make hi, We're gonna
make an example out of him. And this came from
a very good source, a very good source, and he
said that, I want to say who somebody called the
Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that. Really, yep, draft him,

(06:06):
don't don't. Don't do that because they weren't go drafted either.
They weren't going to drafted, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I brought this up after the draft because I had
a source with the Browns who told me that maybe
ownership had some say in this to draft should Or Sanders,
because it came out of nowhere. He was falling, falling, falling, falling, falling.
You draft Dylan Gabriel, then all of a sudden, out
of nowhere, they take shud Or Sanders. I believe that

(06:35):
Eric Dickerson believes this is true. I don't believe it's true.
I don't think the NFL would say to all of
these owners, don't draft him. We want to make any example.
There's other players you could have made an example out of. Shadoor.
Sanders just interviewed poorly. He came in entitled, now this
is from somebody who sat in in an interview, and

(06:56):
he came in with an attitude and it was basically,
I'm interviewing you, not the other way around. I don't
know if that's why it was such a free fall
there was I surprised that he fell to the fifth round, yes,
because I do think that he is a tough kid.
Obviously he knows football. He's been around the spotlight and

(07:20):
I don't think he shied away from a big moment.
But I don't know his personality. We haven't had him on.
But what I was told by somebody who was in
there is he came in. He's interviewing teams to see
if he wanted to go play for you. But I
can't imagine, like who calls who from the NFL says hey,

(07:46):
Jerry Jones or I mean throwout and all of these owners,
so every team because he fell to the fifth round.
I don't know how it stays his secret this amount
of time with a number of ends siders out there
that you would think this would get leaked. Now, whether
it's true or not, from what my source told me,

(08:08):
that Jimmy Haslam had the heavy hand and you know
he instructed the team to take Shoud or Sanders. That's
what I was told. Whether that's true or not, we
may never know. Do I think that the NFL owners
could agree on everything as far as Shad or Sanders.
I mean there's collusion with maybe guaranteed contracts. I understand that,

(08:30):
but I don't know if these owners are going to go.
Mike Brown and Cincinnati's gonna go. H just got a call,
We're not taking Shoud or Sanders. His grades were all
over the place because he doesn't do anything exceptionally well,
like he's not fast, he's not big. You know, he's
got a good arms. He knows the game, he knows

(08:54):
how to play the game, and I think the feel
for the game is really important. But when you don't
interview all and I have a friend who was a
former He wasn't a manager, but he interviewed to be
a manager in Major League Baseball and he said he
found out that he interviewed poorly. And he didn't know
this because he just he didn't get jobs. But he interviewed,

(09:17):
but he interviewed poorly. Now, he didn't go in there
with attitude as much as he didn't tell them what
they wanted to hear. And I don't know if Shoudoor
Sanders went in there and it's like, uh, yeah, okay,
how long is this going to take? You won't me
to get on the chalkboard and do something? Okay? And
I think the prevailing attitude was shoud Or came in

(09:40):
there entitled, and that scared some teams away because he's
not a He wasn't viewed as a Marquis talent. Now
you'll put up with that stuff if the talent equates
to okay, we can overlook the attitude because the talent's
so great. And I think that's what happened with shadh
Or Sanders. But do I think that there was a

(10:01):
league wide moratorium on not drafting should Or Sanders. I don't.
I don't. But that was Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
their podcast. I'm curious, Like I've been keeping an eye
on the mothership. I don't even think they touched the story,
and this is Shoudoor Sanders. What are you guys doing.

(10:24):
Somebody's gonna get fired at the mother Ship? Are you
kidding me? We missed out on all that clickbait should
or Sanders? All right, So we'll get some phone calls
in here. Albert Breer will join us, and Padres aren't
going away. They close in on the Dodgers. And who
would have thought the new and improved Rockies roughing up

(10:46):
Shoheutani last night and his MVP odds went from eight
thousand to six thousand. That feels like that's a precipitous drop, like,
oh my gosh. But he's got such a head start
here that it's his MVP. They can have the ceremony now, Yeah,
Palling Daniel.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Rockies, by the way, are on a hot streak. They've
won seven of ten. They're now thirty seven and ninety
and only thirty five games out.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay. Stand of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards for The Dan Patrick Show. Ryan
in Costa Mesa, Hi, Ryan, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (11:31):
Hey there, Dan, I had some thoughts on the Jim
Harbaugh story. I know you were talking about some precedents
there with Jim Trussell and Caryl Pryor and stuff like that.
I was also thinking about another precedent that's more NFL related,
and that was the Spygates handle with the Patriots. I

(11:53):
want to say that kind of unfolded around two thousand
and seven, and I'm pretty positive Bill Belichick received no
suspension for that, and I kind of remember it being
pretty similar to what the Wolverines were accused.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, but they did give Jim Harball a ten year suspension.
It's called show cause. He was punished by the NC
double A. If the NFL doesn't punish Bill Belichick, then
they don't punish him. But college football punished him. Jim
Tressel got punished by the NC DOUBLEA. That's the difference.
Should should Belichick have been involved in that? Probably? I

(12:33):
mean they got one of the largest fines in NFL
history and probably should have been suspended. But this to
me is not apples to apples. But thank you for
the phone call. I don't know if the NFL does anything,
but you've done it before. Therefore you have to answer
the question, Todd, did you send the email to the
NFL Home Office? We absolutely did all right? Tim in Orlando?

(12:54):
Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (12:57):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call, five six down
to one five. First of all, in the poll question,
Chase Daniels one hundred percent. And I love Marvin calling
the Saints. Sorry, but you referenced about streaming sports. You
referenced baseball a few weeks ago, and it's just challenging

(13:22):
to find a game on television. You don't know where
to go or what platform. And I feel like the
NFL is going in the same direction, just one game
here and there. You've got to have all of the
streaming services available if you want to see all football games.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So yeah, and thank you, Tim, But here's the difference. Baseball,
it feels like, almost on purpose, is disappearing. I don't
know where to find games. ESPN is not going to
be carrying baseball. I think NBC is going to pick
up a portion of this. It's just so fragmented, but
it goes back to what we grew up with. When
we had the Game of the week, I knew where

(13:59):
to find it on NBC. Ben Scully would make you know.
He'd be doing the play by play the NFL. Yes,
you got to go to Amazon, and yes you got
to go to Netflix, and yes you got to go
to Peacock. But they're banking on the fact that you
need the NFL. Baseball needs you, you need the NFL,

(14:20):
And I think that's the difference. Baseball is all over
the place and ESPN walking away from that tells you
a lot of what they think of that product. Now
it's going to be fragmented even more. I think. Is
NBC and Amazon picking it up or I have no idea,

(14:41):
But that's part of the problem. I don't even know
how to get these games sometimes, and I love flipping
through and just watching a game. Now do I have
ESPN Plus and do I have Disney and my Bundle
and all of that? It just gets really confusing. Therefore,

(15:01):
I usually go to the red zone. I just I
have to watch something and have some continuity to it
and know what's going on across the league. Where's you're going? Okay, what? Okay?
How do I get? I gotta get Okay, Amazon Thursday night.
It's it's easier now because we we you know, we've
done it. But baseball, baseball keeps, you know, this fragmentation

(15:24):
is just growing and growing.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, we're getting to a point with streaming where people
are calling to can't there be one sort of central
location for all streaming platforms where all of the channels
are available aka what used to be called quotes cable. Right,
we had all of the channels in one place that

(15:46):
was called cable, just like I've seen people calling for it.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wou'd be cool if there was like a.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Way to like just tune into live podcasts as that
were happening. Yes, it's called the radio. It's been it's
been in existence for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's called the we know, slow down, So let me
understand this cable thing. It's called the cable. And yes,
we had it that way. We did. Yeah, we did
this podcast. What if you had shows and they're on,
you know, the one channel.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
What if you could just like tune into a place
and it had all of these live podcasts at the
same time and you can just flip from one to
the next. Yes, you've had it in your car since forever.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yes, Marvin, that's like my head explodes every time somebody
calls in.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know what, we should regionalize college sports? I know,
what do you how do you think we got the
SEC the big East.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
What what do you think the pack in that stands?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
But that's going to that'll happen. We will go back
to regionalized sports. Baseball's talking about it. College football will
go back to regionalized sports as they whatever their model is,
it'll be based off the NFL. But we're going to
go back to that. All right, let me take a break.
Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback, has got to answer

(17:05):
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Speaker 2 (17:59):
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Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback senior NFL reporter, Man,
Do I have some topics for you? Albert, let me
take away your Ohio State allegiance and Urban Meyer came

(18:23):
out on a podcast and said that Jim Harbaugh should
be suspended similar to what happened with Jim Trussel at
Ohio State when he went to the Colts working in
their video replay department. Your thoughts.

Speaker 12 (18:37):
I thought it was dumb at the time to suspend Tressel,
so I don't know that I would support suspension of
Harbaugh either.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
At the same time, I can remember.

Speaker 12 (18:47):
Why they did it, and if you remember, it was
because they suspended Terrell Pryor and what they were trying
to do. What the NFL was trying to do was
they didn't want the pro was to be a safe
haven for guys to escape punishment from the NCAAA. So
Drell Pryor was going to be suspended by the NCAA.

(19:09):
So the league said, no, this can't be, you know,
an escape for you, So we're gonna let you a
suspense suspension on you the way the NCAAA would have
coming into the league because he was going into the
supplemental Draft. And then when Trussell took the job with
the Colts, people were like, well, wait a minute, like
you forced the player to serve the suspension, so now

(19:31):
why aren't you doing it to the coach. So I
think it became one of those finger in the wind
type things for the league where they heard the criticism
and said, okay, like, well we'll give the coach a
suspension too, maybe not thinking about the president they were setting.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
The interesting thing is, though, I think we.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
Have had coaches in the past that have run away
from the college game to the pros as a method
of trying to escape punishment. Right, Like, we've seen that
in the past. I think you could argue like that
was Pete Carroll. Now I think Pete would probably argue that,
but a lot of people felt that way when he
did it. Dennis Erickson, I think leaving Miami was sort
of that way, right, Neither of these guys, I think.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
I think in neither case that's what this was.

Speaker 12 (20:14):
You know, Like Jim Trussell, I think would have would
have would have been happy dying on the job at
Ohio State, you know, like I think he would have
done that as long as he got job, as long
as he could. He wasn't escaping to the NFL. And
I don't think Harbaugh was escaping Michigan to go to
the NFL either. I think he was going to the
NFL regardless. In fact, I think if he had gone
to the NFL, if if the Vikings had offered him

(20:35):
a job two years earlier when Kevin O'Connell took it,
I think he would have left Michigan two years earlier
than he did.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
You know.

Speaker 12 (20:41):
So, I don't think in either the either the Trustle
case or the Harbaugh case, it was a guy escaping,
trying to escape penalty and finding safe harbor in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
There were different motivations for it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Eric Dickerson was on a radio show Fred Rogan and
Rodney Pete on a five seven and had this to
say about Shador Sanders.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
And I'll tell you as much. Yere what I and
what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that
the NFL put it told other don't draft him, do
not draft him. We're gonna make him, were gonna make
an example out of him. And this came from a
very good source, a very good source. And he said that,
I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said,
don't do that. Really, yep, draft him, don't don't don't

(21:28):
do that because they weren't drafted either. They weren't drafted.

Speaker 12 (21:32):
Your thoughts, Albert, Yeah, I always think these sorts of
conspiracies are a little a little overdone. Like, I don't
think there was any conspiracy here. I think it's relatively
simple what happened. I think the great majority of NFL
teams did not view him as a first round prospect,
contrary to what had been out there for the year previous.

(21:54):
And then I think what happens is once you get
past the first round, you look at the history of
over the years, not a lot of quarterbacks go in
the second or third rounds. It's just the reality of it,
like that most teams look at it like, if there's
a guy who's going to be our long term answer
at the position, we just take them in the first round.
And if a guy's not going to be your long

(22:15):
term answer at the position, then you probably aren't going
to take them in the second or third round because
you're going to be looking for a long term answer
at another position with those picks. So the fatas Shador
Sanders like, I think he fell out of the first
round for football reasons. I think he kept falling for
everything else, right, like for the fact that most coaches

(22:35):
look at their backup quarterbacks and say, I want you
to blend in with the furniture.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
I don't want to. I don't I don't want to
notice that you're even here. You know, that's the way,
for better or worse, Most teams approach the quarterback position,
which I think, to some degree short circuited the careers
of guys like Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick. So I
like Schudor's case.

Speaker 12 (22:58):
Was complicated going into the draft, but I don't think
it was that complicated where there was some sort of
weird conspiracy to keep him out of the league.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, from what I was told by a source, he
didn't interview well, he kind of came in and he
was interviewing teams instead of the other way around. And
you're right, he didn't have first round talent. There was
nothing exceptional about him except for maybe his toughness and
his pedigree. But I can't imagine all of these owners
getting together and somebody saying, hey, everybody, listen, don't draft

(23:30):
Shade or Sanders. Do I think the Browns, especially.

Speaker 12 (23:33):
When there's somebody with a bullhorn that Dion has on
the other side of it, you know what I mean?
That seems like ridiculous to that seems like the wrong
trade of barkup, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
It, Dan, Yeah, it does. We're talking to Albert Brier
the Monday Morning Quarterback. I saw where the US ambassador
to the United Kingdom is lobbying for London to get
the Super Bowl. At some point, this comes up occasionally. Yeah,
I do think we're headed towards this. I don't know
if it's ten years from now, but I think the

(24:08):
NFL can take the heat because you're still going to
tune into the Super Bowl. Where do you like where
do you land on this story?

Speaker 12 (24:17):
I agree that I think eventually it will happen. I
think the biggest hurdle now is the television rating is
such a big deal and the NFL really does care
about seventy million versus eighty million, versus one hundred million
versus one hundred and twenty million. And if you really
care about that, your kickoff time does matter, you know.

(24:40):
And so if you're holding the game in London, if
it's at what would be if it was at eight
o'clock twenty five, right, like no, but if it was
eight o'clock local, then that's three o'clock Eastern, and you
can say it's the super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, like everybody's going to sit down and wash it.
But is that really true?

Speaker 12 (24:57):
I think the Super Bowl is a unique one because
it is so dependent on the drive by viewer. You know,
that number going from in the playoffs like fifty million
to one hundred and twenty million. That's not based on
people like me and you Dan tuning in, you know
what I mean, like we were there regardless. That's based
on people who could take it or leave it, who
I like, quite literally could could say like no, I'm

(25:20):
I'm I'm you know, I go out for my walk,
you know, or I go out for a hike on
Sunday afternoon. So if the game's on at seven, I'm
gonna watch it. But if it's on at three, I'm not.
So I think that's the one hurdle is like the
television number, the advertising rates, all of that different stuff,
like the communal aspect of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
But I think they would love to do it, you know,
because I do think.

Speaker 12 (25:45):
Growing internationally is a huge priority of Roger Goodell's, it's
a huge priority of the league offices.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
It's a huge priority for a lot of owners.

Speaker 12 (25:53):
And I think what they've figured out over the years,
there's a reason why they don't put preseason games over
there anymore, right Like they used to do that.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Remember the Tokyo Bowl back in the day, they used
to do that.

Speaker 12 (26:02):
And the reason they don't, the reason they don't do that,
the reason they pulled NFL Europe is they found they
felt like those things don't make a dent, like you
got to send them the real thing, which I think
is why they feel like now they're starting to make
a dent because they're sending the real thing over overseas,
and of course there'd be nothing more impactful than putting
the super Bowl in another country.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
What about a Saturday night super Bowl in London? And
you started a little bit later.

Speaker 12 (26:28):
Okay, so what you say, like the Londoners got to
put up with a ten pm kickoff or something.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
No, let's say kickoff? Is it nine?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
So it's four in the US.

Speaker 12 (26:41):
Yeah, But now you're talking about a Saturday rating versus
a Sunday rating. You know more about this than I do.
But isn't Sunday a much better ratings day than Saturday?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, but it's the super Bowl and you get to
But what I'm saying you get to get up on
Sunday though, you don't have to worry about Monday.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Right.

Speaker 12 (26:57):
But like, what I'm saying is that the super Bowl
is so dependent on it's that rating is so dependent
on people who could take it or leave it, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
What I mean?

Speaker 12 (27:04):
That rating, like that rating going through the roof, you know,
is based on so many people that don't normally watch,
sitting down and watching with everybody else. And do you
lose that take it or leave it viewer if you're
putting it at a less opportune time. I think that's
the sort of question I don't know, Like maybe you don't,

(27:25):
but I think that's the sort of question that will
get batted around.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Did the Colts fail Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 5 (27:32):
No.

Speaker 12 (27:32):
I think they gave him plenty of chances to to
to seize this and to take it and to run
with it. And you know, I think it's on.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Them that they drafted.

Speaker 12 (27:44):
It's a project them that they got this wrong right,
but that they got the draft pick wrong one million percent,
that's on them. I think part of it is what
happens when you predetermine in a certain year we're taking
a quarterback regardless of who's there, right, Like I think
if you remember the way the year before went Dan,

(28:04):
like how they went to from Matt Ryan eventually went
to Sam Ellinger and like the owner had put a
lot of pressure God rest his soul had put a
lot of pressure on a lot of people like we
need to stop cycling through. And they had been through
that whole period of you know, Luck to Berset to
Rivers to Wentz to Rhyn and it's like we need
to stop this, we need to get a long term answer.

(28:26):
So you predetermined we're going to take one high in
the first round. Well, what happens when Bryce Young goes one,
c J.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Stroud goes to and there's nobody worth taking fourth overall
and you force it, Like that's how Christian Ponder goes
twelfth overall. Right, So like I think that's that's the
cautionary tale here. I don't think he was ever worth
the fourth, fourth overall pick. I don't think. I think
a lot of teams.

Speaker 12 (28:48):
I think if you'd ask most teams they would tell
you that if they were honest about it, you know.
And I think this is a case of you know,
coaches in his third year where he hasn't made the
playoffs yet, GM's in his ninth year and they can't
throw another year overboard in the name of quarterback development.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Last year is an interesting stat.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
Last year they were twenty ninth and total defense, they
were thirtieth in giveaways. They feel like the defensive things
been being sold by bringing in Luen and Romo and
signing guys like Cambinam.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
And Sjarvarius Ward. Now you got to take care of
the giveaway thing.

Speaker 12 (29:21):
And they still won eight games to spite all of
that last year, Right, you do that by being more
efficient on offense. You do that by keeping the train
on the tracks on offense and staying out of long yardage.
And to me, that hit that Anthony Richardson took, that
he got hurt on. I mean, no one wanted to
see the result, but that was indicative of everything, like
his awareness, his ability to process everything in front of him.
It's still not there three years in the progress that

(29:44):
they need to see isn't there. And so you know
it's not it's for the coach, for the GM or
fighting for the job, and also for the other ten
guys in the huddle who probably are like enough of this,
you know, like your Jonathan Taylors, You're Alec Pierces, your
Michael Pittman's Like, is a fair them to say, no,
we're going to sink another year into quarterback development. I
think that's where the Colts are at right now. They

(30:06):
just have to give everyone in the organization a better
answer at the position.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, but it's malpractice to put him out there as
rookie year first game that he wasn't ready for them.
He was barely ready for Florida, let alone getting to
the Colts before I let you go the holdouts. Any
updates on McLaurin and Hendrickson, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I think Hendrickson's gonna be really hard to trade the offer.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
I think people would be surprised to see the raw number,
like how far the Bengals have gone just as far
as the average per year. I don't think they're at
where you know, Watt and Garrett are, but they're not
very far off. The future guarantees are the issue, and
like how willing the Bengals are to bend there. I
think Pride's come into it because it has been three

(30:52):
straight off seasons for Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
He's been in this position. I think the Bengals to
get Trey Hendrickson signed, may need to make this feel
like a win for Trey. And I can't imagine. I mean,
the Bengal has been listening the whole time.

Speaker 12 (31:05):
They want they want a high pick, they want an
active player, and they want you know, and and Trey's
got to get his contract, which is a lot to
give up for a thirty one year old if you're
another team, which is why I don't think there'll be
a trade partner. As for Terry, I think that that
you know, that's one of those where I think we

(31:26):
get to the doorstep of the season and everybody puts
their cards on the table, and I just think, and
this is just me talking, I think Terry is too
important to what dan Quinn has built there over the
last eighteen months and winning with the Commanders and being
a one team guy is too important to Terry for
them not to find some middle ground. But it does

(31:48):
feel like at this point they need a deadline to
push them there, and and I think they's going to
have to be a point too for the Commanders where
they're gonna have to look at it and say, you
know what, our data might tell us this that like
it's it's tough to sign a receiver of that age
to this sort of guarante.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
This sort of.

Speaker 12 (32:05):
Guarantee, I think they're going to have to bend a
little bit and say, like this is a special case
because of what he means to our franchise.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And I've stayed away from the Micah Parsons until there
was a trade offer or I really felt like he
was going to be traded, or because I think this
is inevitable. Is there any update on Micah partier?

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean it's a little different. I think, like
the one difference, and so I'll give you the similarities
between this and the last few. The pace of the
negotiation with this one and C. D. Lamb and Dak
Prescott and Zach Martin is the same. And it almost
feels like Jerry has taken this and said early in
the offseason, you want to take our offer, fine, if not,

(32:47):
we'll see you. We'll see you in four or five months,
you know. And the pacing of the these negotiations seems
to go this way. It's hard to totally dismiss the
idea that this helps the cow Boys getting the A
block on first take, you know what I mean, like
for the entire summer. So you know, like that's why

(33:08):
those deals got done.

Speaker 12 (33:09):
So you know, those deals got done so close to
the beginning of the season that it's tough to rule
anything out now. The difference is Dak Prescott was wildly
popular in the building see Ceedee Lamb, Zach Martin wildly
popular in the building. I don't know that it's the
same way with Micah, and that may complicate things a
little bit. And Mike is also a free thinker, you know,
And so I think the Cowboys are going to probably

(33:33):
put their best offer on the table, you know, at
some point in the two weeks between now and the opener,
and and we'll see if he takes it.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
But I think it would take probably around forty five
million dollars a year to get it done now.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh forty five Yeah, So it's.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Again part of it's like making the player feel like
he's a winner after you know, putting him through all
of this. So I think that's where you're at.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Great to talk to you. Thanks is always safe travels.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Thanks standing.

Speaker 12 (34:00):
And we got a favor to ask of you that
I I think you'll enjoy a little bit fantasy related,
So look out for that one.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh no, hopefully you don't want advice.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
No no, no.

Speaker 12 (34:13):
In fact, like I get my friends always asked me
for advice, and I tell them they're they're asking the
wrong person. So I'm with you on that. You can
ask me now if you want to. Let's just say okay,
So a couple of my friends we went through because
you know, like I'm the connection to everything for them
and uh, we went through some some sportscasters that we

(34:35):
all grew up watching and uh, and they picked you
as the guy they would like to randomly select the
draft order for it, all right. The twist is that
there are some inappropriate names that may still be around
from twenty years ago when we were all just out
of college and naming our teams things that I think

(34:55):
one of my friends said he would he would, he'd
die last thing if he heard you heard you announce
some of these names.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
So we'll see if.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Okay, But it can't be made public though, well I
promise that, I argue, like Cameo, you have my promise.

Speaker 12 (35:12):
It will be destroyed after after they after everybody gets
a everybody gets just to see it.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Because Cameo, you know, you'll have leagues that reach out
and say, would you do our draft and there's some
suspect names on their team names, and uh, you know,
I said, you know, you can't make it public, but
I'll do it for you know, the ten people in
the room. But yeah, I'll be more than happy to
do that.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
All right, thanks, DP, I appreciate it. They'll be pumping.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback. Will take a
break when we come back. The comeback Player of the
Year odds are out and there's a couple of names
that are pretty interesting here on the list. We'll have
that for you and more of your phone calls as
well after this.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Speaker 2 (36:05):
You know, ever since I was reading the Baseball Almanac
a couple of days ago and I stumbled upon Gencarlos
Stanton's career home run total of four forty one. I
think he's hit three or four home runs since then,
as he inches closer to five hundred, I'm going to
take credit for that. Oh, Dylan just walked into the room.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Do they sell men's clothes? Where you got those pants? Dang?

Speaker 5 (36:33):
I don't know what they sell pants? Where I got
the pants?

Speaker 7 (36:35):
Then?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
So Dylan part of the BRGS and of course one
of the stars of the Gambling podcast, Dan Patrick, takes
a gamble which you can listen to coming up a
little bit later on today at danpatrick dot com. And
we have some odds here courtesy of DraftKings, the Comeback
Player of the Year odds in the NFL.

Speaker 13 (36:56):
All right, Dyl, All right, Dan, So there's a couple
of interesting ones. Paul and I were actually chopping up
some of them earlier.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So now is there new language about the comeback Player
of the Year, because that's really important. We thought Damar Hamlin,
who nearly died a couple of times, that seemed like
a shoe in where Joe Flacco came back from sitting
on his couch and playing in the NFL and he
ended up winning the award.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, The guidance from the NFL and the AP writers
says a player simply returning from poor performance should not
really be considered. It has to be injury, ailment, life,
something with their light.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Okay, all right, So with that in mind, give me
the comeback Player of the year odds.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
All right.

Speaker 13 (37:42):
So the best odds are dak and Aiden Hutchinson at
plus two seventy five each.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, CMC, they were injured. They were injured, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Both injured.

Speaker 13 (37:51):
CMC plus three seventy he's usually he's primally on their
Trevor Lawrence plus four seventy five.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
How injured was he?

Speaker 3 (38:04):
He missed five games, five or six?

Speaker 13 (38:06):
Okay, okay, And then this is what it gets interesting.
JJ McCarthy plus one thousand. He's really more of like
an NBA rookie, you know, like he didn't he's not
really coming back from anything on.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
The field related.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, he hurt his knee, but he didn't play, but
he still was coming back from knee surgery.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Well, I guess the questions was he ever there to
come back?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well, where did he get injured? That is true, he
was in practice, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
So if he was a healthy, scratch rookie who just
sat behind a starter, no dice. But since he was
actually injured, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, I mean I got a problem with another guy
on this list, But go ahead, dial uh.

Speaker 13 (38:53):
Nick Chubb plus twelve hundred and then this is the
guy I go to. Guess you're gonna have a problem
with Daniel Jones plus two thousand and what is he
coming back from being on the Giants feeling? It seems
kind of fair? Actually, okay, was he hurt it all
last year? Besides whose feelings?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
He was a couple games last year, but he had
ten starts, eight touchdown, seven picks.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
See, I mean I think it's still fair to have
a couple of year window of people getting used to
the idea that it's just injured players, not players who
were reviving a stalled career. You know, yeah, we all
sort of still look at it that way too. But
if you just try to narrow it down to injured players, then.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I get it. Who else is on the list?

Speaker 13 (39:42):
Well, this one's interesting, Dan, So Anthony Richardson is plus
thirty five hundred. I see a window where Daniel Jones
gets yanked early in the season. Anthony Richardson is coming
back from this season and an injury previously.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Let's go around the room quickly. Who is your pick
for Comeback Player of the Year, Todd.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Trevor Lawrence is gonna have a better season this year?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
All right? Seatan, Nick Chubb, Okay, Marvin Aiden Hutcheson, Dylan
Anthony Richardson. Of course, nobody makes more bad bets than
Dylan Paully. What about you.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Can't be dak Aiden or CMC. They're expected to be great.
It's Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I'm gonna go JJ McCarthy, JJ McCarthy, come on down.
I saw where Steffan Diggs is on there he is?
He coming back from CARDI B Like what.

Speaker 13 (40:37):
That's a Comeback Player of the Award. I can kind
of get behind me. I think he did two soon. Sorry,
are they still going out checking?

Speaker 5 (40:49):
They may have split?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Oh they did. I thought it was gonna last more
of a summer Flint. Oh really, they're just having fun
right now. Still want to know what was going on
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