February 12, 2025 • 41 mins
NBA insider Vincent Goodwill drops by to break down the NBA including Kevin Durant’s legacy and the Luka Dončić/Anthony Davis trade. Plus, Eagles rookie DB Cooper DeJean joins the show to talk about what he was thinking before, during and after his pick-six during Super Bowl LIX.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan That's Dan
Patrick Show, come on in stay a while. Cooper to
Gene Eagles star rookie had to pick six in the
Super Bowl. He'll join us coming up. We'll talk some
basketball as well as Kevin Durant joins the thirty thousand
point club. Nick Wright, Kansas City Chiefs fan Fox Sports one,
host of First Things First. He'll join us in an
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hour from now. Speaking of Kevin Durant going over thirty
thousand points, I think it's a slight when we just
say he's one of the greatest scores of all time.
He's one of the greatest players of all time. Here
is Kevin Durant after the game last night on the
players that inspired him.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I stole so much from Derek and Keen.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That is criminal, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And yeah, it might have been a little bit more
athletic on my one legger than Derk, but he is,
He's the king, He's the god it as so. I've
just always been inspired by a rates, always wanted to
reach their level. It's an exciting time to be NBA players,
especially the time that I came up, it was so
many game changing players that kind of defied the norms
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as players, and those two were some of the guys
that did that. So I've always been inspired by those
guys and to be in that company, man, it's just surreal.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's pretty cool. Dirk was probably KD before KD that
you couldn't stop him. He had great range. Now he
didn't have the handle that KD and wasn't a better
all around player or that kind of player. He was
just a score. Dirk was going to score on you.
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Speaker 5 (03:03):
To find the right way to word this, uh to
make it most interesting. But is calling Kevin Durant a
great scorer insulting?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I wouldn't say insulting as much as it's it's it's
not a true compliment. And maybe we're maybe it's a
slight maybe maybe it's semantics here. It just doesn't feel
like we're taking in the totality of his game, which
is unfortunate because but I think we've always focused on
Kevin Durantis's score. I don't think you ever go maybe
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he's a pretty good passer or he can play some defense.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Well, when we talk about him, it's like you can't
really stop his shot, right, I mean, the only way
that you're going to stop it is if he just misses.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, although he's had his shot blocked a couple of
times and I was surprised, but that kind of you know,
arm length over seven feet, and I thought, has his
shot his jumper ever been blocked? And I think there's
a kid with the Portland Trailblazers who might have gotten
him maybe last last year. There is a stat of
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guys who have blocked Durance jumper, which I was like, wow,
that many and that might be five or six in
NBA history, But still that shot like Joker. Has Jokers
jumper ever gotten blocked? Unless it's from behind that you're
gonna block it. Vincent Goodwill has all the answers. Yahoo
(04:30):
Sports senior NBA writer and host of The Good Word podcast.
Is it a slight to say Kevin Durantz one of
the greatest scorers of all time, it's about a slight Dan.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's just limiting, you know what I mean. Like when
you say someone's a great score, you're saying that's.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
The only thing that they're great at.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Like when I say Carmelo Anthony is a great score,
that's like the first thing that you think of. And
this if you take a while before you go to
maybe the other things of this game. And I'm not
insulting Carmelo in any way, but you think of Carmelo
as the first, as a great scorer first and foremost,
you think of kd Or you should think of kat
as one of the greatest all around players this league
has ever seen. Unfortunately, in the era of Lebron James
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and Stephen Curry, you tend to limit him or discuss
him in other ways a lot of times that have
nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, but I think with Steph Curry, he's the greatest
shooter of all time. I don't think we talk about
anything else with him. Now, granted that's a great compliment,
but if I said Steph Curry one of the greatest
scorers of all time, that would be accurate because he's
not known for anything else other than being the greatest
shooter in the history of the game.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I agree, and it's weird. You know what's funny is
because we don't think about shooters being great players in
that way when you think maybe aside from Larry Bird,
but when you thought of great shooters, you think of
guys that have like a specialized skill, like a Dale
Ellis or someone like that that's just a three point
shooter only I almost like a field goal kick in a
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way in football. But Steph has sort of revolutionized it
in a way that he is a great scorer, and
he is a great shooter, the great shooter we've ever seen,
but there's so many other different parts and different fascets
to his game. I think with someone like Kad the
conversation is so convoluted and a lot of times unfair
when it comes to Kevin Durant that we're always looking
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for the slight when someone calls him a great score,
we're saying, wait a minute, what about the other parts
of this game?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Like for me, Dan, I thought Kevin Durant became the
league's best player in twenty fourteen when he became the
best defensive player between himself and Lebron James, except we
never thought about Kevin Durant in that way. We short
ourselves and we shot him in a way that we
discuss him. And now that he's on the back end
of his career, now we're starting to hopefully acknowledge and
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see all the great parts of his game.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, how about we look at this down the road
when their careers are over with. Who will be recognized
as a better player, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
That's an excellent, excellent question, man. I think Steph Curry
won that championship in twenty twenty two put him over
the top of Kevin Durant. I think, unfortunately this Rings culture.
I don't subscribe to Rings culture in that sort of
direct way, but I do think that stepsibility to lead
a franchise, to stay with a franchise, to stick it
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out with a franchise, compared to KD, who's been a
little bit more mercenary, that's going to be something that
people look at as a demerit. I think it's a
basketball player Kevin Durant because of what he does defensively,
he's a better all around player and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's look at the post trade deadline, Jimmy Butler's contribution
impact at Golden State and Lucas with the Lakers. Which
team do you think goes further due to these two editions.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think Jimmy Butler makes a bigger impact with the
Golden State Warriors, but that's because the Golden State Warriors
have such a long way to go relative to the Lakers.
Like the Lakers were on a roll up until this trade,
and part of that has been the schedule lighting up
and Lebron coming off of his sabbatical, if that's what we're.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Going to call it.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
He's coming back from that with both fresh sheet of
legs and everything else. I think Luca is a little
bit more duplication. He just does it at a higher level,
and he probably has the stamina to do it for
longer stretches of time than Lebron does at this stage
of his career. But I don't see the Lakers having
enough actual functional size and defense on the back line
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to make a real impact in the playoffs. I know
that they've won a lot of games, and I think they're,
you know, a game and a half and the lost
column of being like third in the West or second
in the West or whatever it is. But I still
think that size gets it done when you're talking about
playing a full seven game series. Now, when I look
at Golden State, they're used to playing small and you
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have someone in Draymond Green on the back line. Steph
Curry has not played with a guy who can create
his own shots at an elite level. Spencey's played with
Kevin Durant and that was in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Was the last year those guys played together.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
I'm very curious to see how those two guys mesh,
you know, Katie and Katy, Jimmy going to the bucket
and being able to be passed first, and Steph being
able to roam around on the perimeter having someone create
shots for him.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That could be scary. Dan Patrick, Vincent Goodwill y'allhoo's sports
senior NBA writer, host of The Good Word podcast. You
know a story that's kind of gone under the radar.
You know, Utah's tanking, Washington's tanking. Are the Pelicans tanking?
Are they just bad?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
They're confident, they're not trying to be bad. Dan, Some look,
when you're in the luxury tax, you ain't in a
luxury tax because you're trying to tank. This is not
a stealth tank job on the Pelicans part, Like, yeah,
they traded Brandon Ingram, but they were expecting Zion whims
And to be good this year. They acquired the John
Tate Murray because they wanted to make a run, like
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on December one of last season, not December first of
this season. They were the best team in the Western
Conference and they were looking at it saying, if we
get healthy, if we stay healthy, we're going to be
able to make some real noise because of the youth
and the defense in some of the athleticism that we have.
It just hasn't worked and they're bad. And unfortunately for
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New Orleans, I feel like they're going to have to
part ways with Zion Williams and after the season. And
it's not to say that Zion can't turn it around.
It's just that it feels like that relationship is going
sour and those sides cannot go on. So I don't
think this is by design. They were not intending to
be bad. David Griffin thought he was going to put
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together eighteen that was going to compete in the Western
Conference this year.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So the coach didn't talk After the last game, the
fans booed the new team governor, the former owner told
fans to shut the bleep up. Fans got tossed for
signs saying fire Nico, and the team lost to Sacramento.
Other than that, it's seems like is Tim Kashaws tweeted out,
everything's going well in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Everything's going swimmingly there. Look, then we can all adjudicate
the Luka Donci's trade, right, And I'm not one of
those people that cause it the worst trade of all time,
like when they say they traded for ad I think
there are people are trying to say that they traded
for Antonio Davis in nineteen ninety four or something like that,
like Anthony Davis is one of the top ten players
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in basketball. But I think that it's been a stroke
of bad luck for a franchise that is so connected
to Luke. They're more connected to Luka Doncic than they
were to the actual Dallas Mavericks. And that's something that
you generally dan incorporate with losers. Like I'm gonna tell
you a quick story. I was a fan of the
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Detroit Lions and then July twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine happened,
and I was no longer a fan of the Detroit
Lions and I have not gone back since. Why because
they were losers and then when they made Barry Sanders
quick I quit them. Dallas has won a championship and
they went to the finals. Those fans should not be bailing,
even though I understand their anger and frustration, but this
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is a bit shocking the reaction from everyone that's he
That's a bit wild to me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
If you gave Nico a do over a mulligan right
now today.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
I think given the fact that we don't know the
extent of Anthony Davis's injury, this core muscle injury that
he has, you might give him a mulligan based off
of that, not necessarily based off of the reaction. Usually
you can ride off the reaction, and I think he
was confident enough to say, we've got some bigs here
that can really make some things happen in the Western
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Conference if we get them all healthy and upright. I
don't think you. I don't think people as strong minded
as Nico Harrison are going to be swayed that quickly
because of the reaction. He could be swayed because of
Anthony Davis's health, not because everybody is so heartbroken and
betrayed over lukadotics.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Always great to talk to you, Vincent. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Next time I'll be on video, Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Oh yeah, that's what our audience wants. The ladies love that.
The ladies want that.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Don't get me in trouble, Maren.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh okay, because I was going to say, Vincent, Goodwill hunting,
but you're not. You're in love, right, I'm the love doctor,
no more.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Just just gonna say that, I'm the love doctor, no more.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Thank you, Vincent, Vincent Goodwill, yahoos sports senior NBA writer,
host of The Good Word podcast, Chris and Maryland. Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
What's going on? Hey?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
I called to collect on my football.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Bet if that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
So before the season, you may recall I bet you
that the Chargers were going to finish is the five
seeds in the playoffs, and they did, and despite their flameout,
the deal was that if they finished this the five
you all would send me a color photocopy of the
Simpsons poster signed. So if that's still good, I want
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to collect on the beat. But because you all are
such an important part of our morning here at our house,
I still would like to send you some meat, which
is what I was going to do if I lost.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Sure. I'll see what I can do with the Simpsons.
I don't know how we get that done, though, I'll
work on that, Chris. I never thought I was going
to have to make good on that, but Tyler will
take your information. I'll let you know if we can
pull that off, because we have the Simpsons art you know,
(14:52):
the artwork there, a poster and with all of us there,
so if we can make I don't know if I
can make a copy of that. That's just the only
thing with the Simpsons. I don't know how that works there.
I'll get some of my best people on it. But
thank you, Chris. All right, we'll take a break. He's
one of the stars of the Eagles Super Bowl whim
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know what he does for his twenty third birthday,
but his twenty second birthday was pretty cool. Cooper de Jean,
the Eagles defensive back, had to pick six as the
Eagles win the Super Bowl. They got the parade coming
up on Friday. How much sleep since Sunday, Coop?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Not a whole lot, Not a whole lot.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
I've been trying to catch up a little bit, but
I've gotten I've gotten very little sleep these past few days.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
How was the after party?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It was awesome. It was awesome. It's a lot better
when you win.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who is who is the MVP of the after party?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's a good question.
Speaker 11 (17:04):
There was a there's quite a few guys that were
having to having good time at the after party.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, you're just old enough to drink now now that
you're twenty two, So did you Did you celebrate as
well with these guys?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Of course, of course I celebrate.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
I had to had to celebrate winning a world championship
and on my birthday, so I had to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The defensive game plan of not blitching. Was that discussed
prior to the game, that that was going to be
the game plan? That nobody is going after mahomes other
than your front four.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's the way we
practiced all week. It's just to play our coverage like
we like we've done all year. Obviously we've blitz a
little bit this year, but I think, you know, we
we work really well together in the back end the
way we plays on coverage and the way we match routes,
and you know, it's it makes it easy on on
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the back end when you know you got a D
line up front, that's that gets pressure without without having
to you know, plits the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What was your job? What was your role in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
I mean, just to disrupt timing and you know, packing
zones and make create tight windows for the quarterback, you know,
disrupt timing from the receiivers getting off the getting off
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know, try to give our D line as much time.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
To get to the quarterback, you know, and then and
then packing those zones, you know, and switch up the
picture on the quarterback and you know, make him have
to make him have to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What did you show my homes or that maybe he
didn't see on your pick six?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, I think we were We were playing uh zone
coverage and you know.
Speaker 11 (18:53):
The way we played it, it was I was kind
of playing off Zach in front of me, and he
actually actually ran to the flat, which was my responsibility,
and it allowed me to fall back inside. But I think,
I think that's just how it's been all year, just
us playing off of each other. And I saw him
go out there to the flat, and I was able
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to fall back inside and got to be a free
player and just read the quarterback and able to pick
the ball off.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
When did you start thinking end zone?
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Right when I caught the ball. Every time I touched
the ball, I want to score. You know, It's it's
been that way since as long as I remember playing football.
So but luckily I got some got some blocks out
there from the big guys up up front.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Threw me some blocks and found my way in to
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Did you keep the ball?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Of course? Of course.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I Sometimes you get too excited and you might, you know,
be spiking it or something and then teammate has to
grab it or something. But look, this isn't normal like
your age Super Bowl going against Mahomes six. I mean,
how do you how do you process that of where
you were, where you were drafted and uh, here you are.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, it's I mean, I don't think I processed it yet.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
Yeah, three and a half years ago, I was in
high school and I'm playing on on the biggest stage
in football in the super Bowl, and I think it's
just a lot of credit to the people who've helped
me along along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You didn't have a Mahomes poster on your wall growing up,
did you?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
I did watch him. You haven't haven't played quarterback? You know,
I did watch him quite a bit growing up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But did you talk to him at all? Have you
talked to Mahomes after the game?
Speaker 12 (20:45):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I have it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I'm not sure. Yeah, I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And I wouldn't ask him to sign the football. I'd
wait a little while before you do something like that.
Take me into halftime. What was it like, Yeah, I
mean a lot of a lot of focus.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
I think, you know, I think everybody understood that the
game wasn't over because you know, we understood who you
know who, who they were on.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
On that side.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
You know their their offense and what they're capable of,
their quarterback, their offense. How explosive it is and you know,
so we knew, we knew it wasn't finished, you know,
at halftime, and you know we had to you know,
we had to go out there and you know put
it away in that second half.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
When did you know the game was over?
Speaker 11 (21:34):
That's I mean, I don't know if I really crossed
my mind until it was later in that in that
fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like thirty four to nothing, I think you feel pretty safe,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
That.
Speaker 11 (21:46):
Then I think we gave up We give up a touchdown,
So I mean I was I was still a little
a little nervous. I didn't want to, you know, say
it was over yet, but there's there was definitely a
lot of a lot of confidence when we got when
we went up thirty four.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I think that you guys should put the score
forty to six on your ring because those last two
touchdowns they really don't count. I mean, it was an
incredible defensive performance, but you gave up a couple of
garbage touchdowns. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
Yeah, I think the way our defensive played, we just
we just continue to get better over the year, and
you know, the performers that we put out there, you know,
in the super Bowl on the biggest stage I don't
think it's a surprise to any of us, you know,
the work we put it in, you know, throughout the
whole year, throughout practice, and then just going out there
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and do our doing, doing our thing, what we've done
all year.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The number of people lived in your hometown is what
A thousand?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
This? Hundred thousand?
Speaker 13 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, yep. Do you get a statue in your hometown?
Is there any talk of a Cooper to Gene statue?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I don't. I don't think there's any talk of that,
uh not that I've earned, at least that I've heard.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, we should start that. Where is anybody more famous
in your hometown?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I mean not, not that I know of.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
I don't know if there's I don't know if there's
any any professional athletes from from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A thousand people. You got a traffic light in your hometown? No?
Why don't you? Why don't you have one installed? Like
you could have the Cooper to g And you gotta
have something in there the Cooper to g Maybe a
park bench, maybe a traffic light, uh stop something yeah,
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your defense, I mean stop. I think that would be
a By the way, if I get a slam dunk
contest for NFL players. How do you think you do?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You know, I got a couple of couple of tricks
in my bag that I could do. I don't.
Speaker 11 (23:59):
I haven't played basketball in a while, so I probably
need a little bit of practice, But I think I could.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I could compete a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What's your go to.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Go to? Man? Probably just a windmill.
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Maybe something off the side of the backboard, could be
something off the glass.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Three sixty, three sixty. That's some ideas.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think we should get this together and maybe I
could work on this. I got to work on a
statue for you in a slam done contest with NFL players. Congrats,
a great moment for you, certainly for your family and
your hometown as well, and thanks for joining us. Be
careful with the parade on Friday, Cooper.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Absolutely, be careful.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Be careful. Cooper to Jean the Eagles defensive bank. Not
a bad birthday. So Saquan's birthday same day and he
gets the pick six there. Yeah, I would steer clear
of Pennsylvania on Friday. The parade going on there in Philadelphia.
Oh boy, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 14 (25:08):
Is that the one seed of Super Bowl parades that
could get squarely for lack of a better.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, well, it feels like anytime hockey has a parade
that that would be the number one seed. I was
in Vancouver many, many, many years ago when Vancouver lost
the Stanley Cup Final, and I felt lucky to get
out of the arena, out of the city and go
to the airport that was That was a little bit scary. Yeah,
(25:40):
you never factored that in. Yeah, And I understand when
you lose you might be upset. It's when you win
and then all of a sudden you're turning over cars
and you're tearing down light pole like I never understood
that you won. You won, Yes, Dodd.
Speaker 15 (25:55):
Did you ever do anything or near somebody that all
of a sudden their behavior changed dramatically because of that
mob mentality? Some someone that would normally not behave that
way gets caught up in the moment starts doing things
you would never expect you. I have had some friends that,
like I never thought would just kind of get rowdy,
you know, like at a party, or they just kind
of trying to be like everyone else and doing you know,
this questionable behavior.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
What did you do?
Speaker 13 (26:17):
We're at a party and.
Speaker 15 (26:18):
Like people of friends of mind that I didn't realize
drink or maybe I hadn't before had one too many,
and they're just kind of jumping around and kind of
in someone's house and borderline breaking stuff. And like when someone's.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Happen borderline breaking stuff.
Speaker 15 (26:31):
Banging into like you know, furniture and what looks like
expensive objects in this kid's parents house. To me, that's
a wild time.
Speaker 14 (26:39):
How does that come to a parade with thousands and
thousands of people?
Speaker 15 (26:42):
I'm talking about mob mentality in journal like that?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Why is it I don't throwing a car windows.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Billy just banged into something that looks very expensive.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
That's crazy. That coffee table is almost broken.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just knock three books up to this show. We're going
to borderline break some stuff here.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Put a coaster down, you could leave a ring.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Who's with me?
Speaker 13 (26:59):
How to put the sink?
Speaker 15 (27:00):
You could just leave it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I was gonna step on Wow, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I did do a run in Morgantown, West Virginia, which
might as well at some point been an epicenter of
mob mentality. And it is crazy how you could think
that things like you know, keg bowling or burning couches
is just kind of what you do.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, like, no, it's normal.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
This is what.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, let's get all of these empty kegs. Let's put
them at the bottom of this gigantic hill and then
we'll get another empty keg and roll it down from
the top of High Street all the way down to see.
Let's see if we could hit any of them. And
it turns into just a projectile. It seemed like a
good idea at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Every time Dayton would beat Notre Dame in basketball, they
would burn couches, which I don't know why because then
you need a new couch. But you would go into
this part of the campus and there would just be
couches burning and they were celebrating, and I just thought, God,
that's dumb. Now you don't have a couch, so it'd
(28:06):
be out there on fire after you beat Notre Dame. Marvin,
did you ever do anything crazy after the Yukon Huskies
won national championships.
Speaker 16 (28:14):
No, it was a lot of people watching though, and
like you said, a lot of people burning couches. Obviously
everywhere outside of stores Connecticut. The Yukon campus itself, it's
pretty tame. It's on a farm. Yeah, But when Yukon
was in the final four. All bets were off.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
PAULI, did you do anything suspicious.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
Around a parade or a celebration? I was around in
Chicago door manning when the Bulls won. There's a lot
of people who left their cars on Rush Street, and
they should know because they're going to get ripped up
turned over. I didn't participate, but I saw it. It was
there's some rough stuff with the cars.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, there's certain Well, I just saw the celebration in
Philadelphia after they won the Super Bowl. I think they
stole two garbage trucks and they were bringing down light poles.
I believe maybe police car got turned over. Hopefully, hopefully
tomorrow or Friday will be respectable.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
Maybe it's a Friday though I know, easy day off work.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, it's probably best that it's on a Friday. That
gives you Saturday and Sunday to recuperate. Yes, Tom, has
it become a.
Speaker 15 (29:24):
I still can't understand. I'm no psychiatrist. Psychologists a free
for all of lawlessness, Like you now have a certain
period of time where you can just do nearly anything
because your team won a championship. Like what would go
in someone's mind to think that now it's okay. Somebody
that's against the law is okay for the next few hours.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know what goes into their mind. I know
what goes into their body. It's called alcohol. That you
see is what is the great enhancer?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
There?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Dale and Iowa, Iowa. That's Dale in Iowa Ideal.
Speaker 17 (29:53):
Hey, Dan, I just caught your interview with Cooper Degen.
And by the way, his hometown is Old the Bolt,
which is up up in that area of the state.
And yeah, I think they got grain elevators in a
railroad crossing.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
But that's it.
Speaker 17 (30:06):
But the one thing that hit me was during that
whole thing, Cooper Degene was the one last year against
Minnesota that took that pump return late in the fourth
quarter for a touchdown that was ruled in valid.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Fair catch yep.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
When he would make an interception a turnover, he was
planning on taking it back for a touchdown. Zach and Knoxville, Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (30:30):
A DP, Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Man.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
As far as the Cooper Dejene stuff, maybe we can.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Put in a four way intersection there in his hometown,
and if he wins another Super Bowl, we put in
a stoplight, okay, but.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
And Christian Tennessee. He said that you can't.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Compare other eras and other teams and things like that.
So I hate that your show is supposed to go
for another three and a half years. But I thought
that was the whole premise of sports talk radio. I'll
hang up and listen right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's not three and a half years. It's less than
three years. But I enjoy the conversation. And what I
love is I'm able to bring back names that maybe
you don't factor in, or that maybe you didn't get
a chance to see, having seen Doctor J in the Aba,
or my first you know, Bill Walton game was his
(31:20):
first game he ever played against leu Al Sindor or
Kareem Abdul Jabbaram. I got to see Wilt play, I
got to see Jerry West play. I got to see
Oscar play. Bill Russell's the only modern day Hall of
Famer that I don't think I got to see play.
And although I did get to see the Celtics, I started.
I saw the Celtics in seventies. So Dave Cowens came
(31:42):
there in nineteen seventy and he was co Rookie of
the Year with Jeff Petrie. But to see John Habilcheck play,
to see games in the garden, you know, so I
was very fortunate. But I like when people like Elgin Baylor,
to me, is maybe the most underrated player in the
history of the NBA, because nobody saw him. If you
look at his numbers, you know, it's video game stuff
(32:03):
where you're going, yeah, and he was different, like he
played an athletic game and back then you did not
have that. And then you couple him with Jerry West,
you had two guys who are really changing the game
with their athleticism. But Elgin Baylor six ' four, great
great jumpers, score, rebounder, And I like that some of
(32:26):
these players that maybe you didn't know about, maybe you
just see their name in a book and maybe you know,
to bring their story to life.
Speaker 14 (32:33):
Yeampoin, I really wish I could have seen Pete Marivitch
night to night play college basketball like we saw Jimmer
for a debt of a decade ago. He was averaging
twenty eight, which is really impressive and it was cool.
But I can't imagine a guy averaging forty four with
no three point line. It's hard to even process and
to be able to see at night, and that must
have been amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, you knew he was getting the ball and his
dad was the coach, and he was going to shoot.
But we've had a couple of you know this day
in sports history, Like he scored forty seven in the
second half of two games I think in the same
year he ended up with sixty nine points. And once again,
if you had a three point shot, and I had
(33:14):
the great LSU coach Dale Brown, I asked him if
he could go back and look at the shooting charts
of Pete Maravich when he played. So he did. He
went back and looked at the games and the shooting charts. Now,
once again they didn't have a three point shot. So
he superimposed a three point line and said Pete would
(33:34):
have averaged fifty five a game. And he's playing in
the SEC and now there wasn't the integration that obviously
you have now. But still Pete was playing against some
pretty good teams. Kentucky was always good. But Dale said
that I think Pete's final year at LSU he would
average fifty five a game, factoring in the three point shot.
(33:57):
But that's Pete was shooting. There was no three point shot.
Imagine if you know, there's a three point shot. But
his handle was as good as anybody who's ever played
the game. Now, you can say Kyrie and you certainly
have an argument, but having watched both of them, Pete
did things with the basketball that you know, maybe the
Globe Trotters were doing, and that's against the Washington generals.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
Yes, Marv, Yeah, when it comes to ball handling, he
feels like that evolution chart. He feels like the first
guy walking erect like because everybody else was. Yeah, look
at him and he's like, nah, we gonna we're gonna shoot,
We're gonna dribble like this.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, we give Bob Coosey a lot of credit, but
he was you know, in the era, he was kind
of a magician with the basketball, but he was right
hand dominant, but he was a creator. I mean, there
are a lot of great things about Bob Cousy. Now, granted,
could he play now, No, he couldn't play now. I
get it. Uh, he would adapt to today, I'm guessing,
(34:53):
but back then, the way he played, he was different
than anybody else in the court, and Pete was that
way too. Not everybody wanted to play with Pete because
you know, he was a gunner. I think he got
to the point where he was such a good score
he got bored and then he started making, you know,
great passes, but really a wonderful ball handler. He was
(35:15):
just never a winner, and I think that that was
something that always bothered him. He went to the Celtics
late in his career because Larry Bird wanted him to
go there to play with him. All right, let me
take a break. More phone calls coming up, Nick Wright
coming up top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
Seat and update the poll result. I'm not even sure
what the poll question is for hour two of this program.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
We had a couple of like sort of poll questions
floating around here, but we haven't really addressed the hour
one pole question much biggest threat to the Eagles in
the NFC. Your options are Lions, forty nine ers, commanders,
let's see Buccaneers, Vikings, rams, other right now running away
with that one. Fifty eight percent is the Lions, followed
(36:07):
by the commanders. Then other has five percent.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Of the vote.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Who do you think the other is.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
That people are voting for.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Dallas.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I mean, that's got to be just Dallas fans though,
because nobody takes that seriously.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, no, But you know, we talked about this, it's
probably mid season, maybe a little earlier, when we said
the Cowboys have a real problem coming up. It's kind
of a good problem. Now they have to pay Dak
Prescott and they were gonna have to pay CD Lamb
and then they I said, they have to pay Micah Parsons.
So you have three guys who are going to be
(36:46):
top end at their position, so you better be really
good in surrounding them, and that didn't go well. Michaeh.
Parsons is going to get forty million dollars. He will
be the highest paid non quarterback. I'm guessing when it's
all set and up, Cede Lamb got top end money
and Dak got top end money, they're not in a
(37:09):
good position, even though you have one you know, looks
like surefire Hall of Famer and Michael Parsons, Cede Lamb
could be, and Dak has been a good quarterback in
his career. But other than that, I mean, you've got
to make sure that you do not miss when it
comes to draft, and don't tell me you're all in
when you're not all in, when you don't do anything,
(37:30):
and you hire your coach on a Friday night.
Speaker 14 (37:34):
Yes, Pauline, it does seem like teams like even Tampa
Bay is probably more threatening Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
They're solid.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
They made the playoffs, so sure Green.
Speaker 13 (37:43):
Bay eleven wins last year.
Speaker 14 (37:44):
Green Bay outscored their opponents by one hundred and twenty
two points. The Cowboys were outscored by one hundred and
twenty points.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, Seton.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
You know, watching the Super Bowl this year, for some reason,
by the end of it, I was like, you know what, man,
we need to save ceed Lamb. We need to get
him off that team and get him into some that's
going to contend because he's way too good of a
player to just be languishing there.
Speaker 16 (38:06):
Yes, Marvin, is he next year, Sakuon Barkley that he
goes to another team, Like, you know, we just got
to get a great player out of a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, but you can't spend all this money on Dak
and then take away his number one weapon semantics. Yeah,
I think I think you can though.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I think people do that, But then what do you
going to the Chiefs let tyreek Hill go. I mean,
I granted you still had Kelsey, but well they have
a better quarterback. And that was a prett shocking move though. Yeah,
but it was a running back the wide receiver. Everybody's
looking for those guys running back. You know, we were
(38:47):
devaluing them.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And I'm curious to see what happens in the draft
if all of a sudden teams go you know, on
second thought, we might go a little higher for a
running back. Diane or Russini, she works for the Athletics.
She's an NFL reporter and the Scoop City podcast with
Chase Daniel, and she had this to say about Aaron Rodgers'
(39:08):
situation with the Jets When they.
Speaker 18 (39:11):
Had conversations with Aaron Rodgers about what the future would
look like. If you're going to be part of this team,
you're going to attend all the trading camp, You're not
going to do Pat McAfee interviews anymore.
Speaker 13 (39:21):
Wait, they said that.
Speaker 18 (39:22):
Yeah, if you were to stay here, here's how we
would want.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
It to be.
Speaker 18 (39:27):
So this to me is Aaron Glenn getting control back.
Speaker 14 (39:31):
So do you think that if he would have agreed
to not do that stuff, that he would have been
their quarterback.
Speaker 18 (39:35):
I think that no matter what the Jets were going
to say, Aaron Rodgers wanted to move on.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well, he did come back to talk to them, so
I don't know if he clearly wanted to move on,
because if that's the case, are you really going to
go out of your way and fly back to talk
to the Jets. I think Aaron Glenn did the right decision,
you know, made the right decision. Move on from him,
but giving the audience out of respect. But you're going
to tell him not to be on McAfee. He's got
(40:02):
to be here for all the you know, off season workouts.
I mean, okay, you know the McAfee thing. I don't
know how much you know, how many fires they were
putting out because of that, But McAfee's paying in whatever,
a million dollars. You're not going to walk away from that.
It's not like Aaron was doing it just out of
the goodness of his heart. He was being paid to
(40:24):
do that. But I mean, good for McAfee came up
with the business model to pay Saban and Belichick. Aaron
Rodgers and you make headlines. But if you're the Jets,
I don't know. Did he kind of take away from
all the bad play that you guys had or how
bad you are? Maybe we focused on it. Maybe Aaron
Rodgers took one for the team. He's like, Hey, you
(40:45):
know what, put all this attention on me, not on
my team being bad, but I would not be Yeah,
And you know, I keep hearing Steelers for some it's
like Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers and I go, I
don't get it. Or the Raiders I kind of get it.
But if I'm the Raiders and I'm starting out, if
(41:07):
I'm Tom Brady, I want to get my own quarterback
in there. And do I want Aaron Rodgers for a year?
Like who would ever have thought Aaron Rodgers would be
a band aid quarterback? Like come on in for a year,
you know, like Tyrod Taylor or something. Here, Jacoby Brissette.
Ten minutes from now, Nick Wright will join us. Get
(41:29):
his thoughts on his Chiefs going down in Fames
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan That's Dan
Patrick Show, come on in stay a while. Cooper to
Gene Eagles star rookie had to pick six in the
Super Bowl. He'll join us coming up. We'll talk some
basketball as well as Kevin Durant joins the thirty thousand
point club. Nick Wright, Kansas City Chiefs fan Fox Sports one,
host of First Things First. He'll join us in an
(00:26):
hour from now. Speaking of Kevin Durant going over thirty
thousand points, I think it's a slight when we just
say he's one of the greatest scores of all time.
He's one of the greatest players of all time. Here
is Kevin Durant after the game last night on the
players that inspired him.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I stole so much from Derek and Keen.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That is criminal, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And yeah, it might have been a little bit more
athletic on my one legger than Derk, but he is,
He's the king, He's the god it as so. I've
just always been inspired by a rates, always wanted to
reach their level. It's an exciting time to be NBA players,
especially the time that I came up, it was so
many game changing players that kind of defied the norms
(01:14):
as players, and those two were some of the guys
that did that. So I've always been inspired by those
guys and to be in that company, man, it's just surreal.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's pretty cool. Dirk was probably KD before KD that
you couldn't stop him. He had great range. Now he
didn't have the handle that KD and wasn't a better
all around player or that kind of player. He was
just a score. Dirk was going to score on you.
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Speaker 5 (03:03):
To find the right way to word this, uh to
make it most interesting. But is calling Kevin Durant a
great scorer insulting?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I wouldn't say insulting as much as it's it's it's
not a true compliment. And maybe we're maybe it's a
slight maybe maybe it's semantics here. It just doesn't feel
like we're taking in the totality of his game, which
is unfortunate because but I think we've always focused on
Kevin Durantis's score. I don't think you ever go maybe
(03:37):
he's a pretty good passer or he can play some defense.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Well, when we talk about him, it's like you can't
really stop his shot, right, I mean, the only way
that you're going to stop it is if he just misses.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, although he's had his shot blocked a couple of
times and I was surprised, but that kind of you know,
arm length over seven feet, and I thought, has his
shot his jumper ever been blocked? And I think there's
a kid with the Portland Trailblazers who might have gotten
him maybe last last year. There is a stat of
(04:10):
guys who have blocked Durance jumper, which I was like, wow,
that many and that might be five or six in
NBA history, But still that shot like Joker. Has Jokers
jumper ever gotten blocked? Unless it's from behind that you're
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Is it a slight to say Kevin Durantz one of
the greatest scorers of all time, it's about a slight Dan.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's just limiting, you know what I mean. Like when
you say someone's a great score, you're saying that's.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
The only thing that they're great at.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Like when I say Carmelo Anthony is a great score,
that's like the first thing that you think of. And
this if you take a while before you go to
maybe the other things of this game. And I'm not
insulting Carmelo in any way, but you think of Carmelo
as the first, as a great scorer first and foremost,
you think of kd Or you should think of kat
as one of the greatest all around players this league
has ever seen. Unfortunately, in the era of Lebron James
(05:12):
and Stephen Curry, you tend to limit him or discuss
him in other ways a lot of times that have
nothing to do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, but I think with Steph Curry, he's the greatest
shooter of all time. I don't think we talk about
anything else with him. Now, granted that's a great compliment,
but if I said Steph Curry one of the greatest
scorers of all time, that would be accurate because he's
not known for anything else other than being the greatest
shooter in the history of the game.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I agree, and it's weird. You know what's funny is
because we don't think about shooters being great players in
that way when you think maybe aside from Larry Bird,
but when you thought of great shooters, you think of
guys that have like a specialized skill, like a Dale
Ellis or someone like that that's just a three point
shooter only I almost like a field goal kick in a
(06:00):
way in football. But Steph has sort of revolutionized it
in a way that he is a great scorer, and
he is a great shooter, the great shooter we've ever seen,
but there's so many other different parts and different fascets
to his game. I think with someone like Kad the
conversation is so convoluted and a lot of times unfair
when it comes to Kevin Durant that we're always looking
(06:21):
for the slight when someone calls him a great score,
we're saying, wait a minute, what about the other parts
of this game?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Like for me, Dan, I thought Kevin Durant became the
league's best player in twenty fourteen when he became the
best defensive player between himself and Lebron James, except we
never thought about Kevin Durant in that way. We short
ourselves and we shot him in a way that we
discuss him. And now that he's on the back end
of his career, now we're starting to hopefully acknowledge and
(06:48):
see all the great parts of his game.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, how about we look at this down the road
when their careers are over with. Who will be recognized
as a better player, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
That's an excellent, excellent question, man. I think Steph Curry
won that championship in twenty twenty two put him over
the top of Kevin Durant. I think, unfortunately this Rings culture.
I don't subscribe to Rings culture in that sort of
direct way, but I do think that stepsibility to lead
a franchise, to stay with a franchise, to stick it
(07:21):
out with a franchise, compared to KD, who's been a
little bit more mercenary, that's going to be something that
people look at as a demerit. I think it's a
basketball player Kevin Durant because of what he does defensively,
he's a better all around player and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's look at the post trade deadline, Jimmy Butler's contribution
impact at Golden State and Lucas with the Lakers. Which
team do you think goes further due to these two editions.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I think Jimmy Butler makes a bigger impact with the
Golden State Warriors, but that's because the Golden State Warriors
have such a long way to go relative to the Lakers.
Like the Lakers were on a roll up until this trade,
and part of that has been the schedule lighting up
and Lebron coming off of his sabbatical, if that's what we're.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Going to call it.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
He's coming back from that with both fresh sheet of
legs and everything else. I think Luca is a little
bit more duplication. He just does it at a higher level,
and he probably has the stamina to do it for
longer stretches of time than Lebron does at this stage
of his career. But I don't see the Lakers having
enough actual functional size and defense on the back line
(08:33):
to make a real impact in the playoffs. I know
that they've won a lot of games, and I think they're,
you know, a game and a half and the lost
column of being like third in the West or second
in the West or whatever it is. But I still
think that size gets it done when you're talking about
playing a full seven game series. Now, when I look
at Golden State, they're used to playing small and you
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have someone in Draymond Green on the back line. Steph
Curry has not played with a guy who can create
his own shots at an elite level. Spencey's played with
Kevin Durant and that was in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Was the last year those guys played together.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
I'm very curious to see how those two guys mesh,
you know, Katie and Katy, Jimmy going to the bucket
and being able to be passed first, and Steph being
able to roam around on the perimeter having someone create
shots for him.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That could be scary. Dan Patrick, Vincent Goodwill y'allhoo's sports
senior NBA writer, host of The Good Word podcast. You
know a story that's kind of gone under the radar.
You know, Utah's tanking, Washington's tanking. Are the Pelicans tanking?
Are they just bad?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
They're confident, they're not trying to be bad. Dan, Some look,
when you're in the luxury tax, you ain't in a
luxury tax because you're trying to tank. This is not
a stealth tank job on the Pelicans part, Like, yeah,
they traded Brandon Ingram, but they were expecting Zion whims
And to be good this year. They acquired the John
Tate Murray because they wanted to make a run, like
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on December one of last season, not December first of
this season. They were the best team in the Western
Conference and they were looking at it saying, if we
get healthy, if we stay healthy, we're going to be
able to make some real noise because of the youth
and the defense in some of the athleticism that we have.
It just hasn't worked and they're bad. And unfortunately for
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New Orleans, I feel like they're going to have to
part ways with Zion Williams and after the season. And
it's not to say that Zion can't turn it around.
It's just that it feels like that relationship is going
sour and those sides cannot go on. So I don't
think this is by design. They were not intending to
be bad. David Griffin thought he was going to put
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together eighteen that was going to compete in the Western
Conference this year.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So the coach didn't talk After the last game, the
fans booed the new team governor, the former owner told
fans to shut the bleep up. Fans got tossed for
signs saying fire Nico, and the team lost to Sacramento.
Other than that, it's seems like is Tim Kashaws tweeted out,
everything's going well in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Everything's going swimmingly there. Look, then we can all adjudicate
the Luka Donci's trade, right, And I'm not one of
those people that cause it the worst trade of all time,
like when they say they traded for ad I think
there are people are trying to say that they traded
for Antonio Davis in nineteen ninety four or something like that,
like Anthony Davis is one of the top ten players
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in basketball. But I think that it's been a stroke
of bad luck for a franchise that is so connected
to Luke. They're more connected to Luka Doncic than they
were to the actual Dallas Mavericks. And that's something that
you generally dan incorporate with losers. Like I'm gonna tell
you a quick story. I was a fan of the
(11:47):
Detroit Lions and then July twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine happened,
and I was no longer a fan of the Detroit
Lions and I have not gone back since. Why because
they were losers and then when they made Barry Sanders
quick I quit them. Dallas has won a championship and
they went to the finals. Those fans should not be bailing,
even though I understand their anger and frustration, but this
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is a bit shocking the reaction from everyone that's he
That's a bit wild to me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
If you gave Nico a do over a mulligan right
now today.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
I think given the fact that we don't know the
extent of Anthony Davis's injury, this core muscle injury that
he has, you might give him a mulligan based off
of that, not necessarily based off of the reaction. Usually
you can ride off the reaction, and I think he
was confident enough to say, we've got some bigs here
that can really make some things happen in the Western
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Conference if we get them all healthy and upright. I
don't think you. I don't think people as strong minded
as Nico Harrison are going to be swayed that quickly
because of the reaction. He could be swayed because of
Anthony Davis's health, not because everybody is so heartbroken and
betrayed over lukadotics.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Always great to talk to you, Vincent. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Next time I'll be on video, Dan.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Oh yeah, that's what our audience wants. The ladies love that.
The ladies want that.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Don't get me in trouble, Maren.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh okay, because I was going to say, Vincent, Goodwill hunting,
but you're not. You're in love, right, I'm the love doctor,
no more.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Just just gonna say that, I'm the love doctor, no more.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Thank you, Vincent, Vincent Goodwill, yahoos sports senior NBA writer,
host of The Good Word podcast, Chris and Maryland. Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
What's going on? Hey?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
I called to collect on my football.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Bet if that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
So before the season, you may recall I bet you
that the Chargers were going to finish is the five
seeds in the playoffs, and they did, and despite their flameout,
the deal was that if they finished this the five
you all would send me a color photocopy of the
Simpsons poster signed. So if that's still good, I want
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to collect on the beat. But because you all are
such an important part of our morning here at our house,
I still would like to send you some meat, which
is what I was going to do if I lost.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Sure. I'll see what I can do with the Simpsons.
I don't know how we get that done, though, I'll
work on that, Chris. I never thought I was going
to have to make good on that, but Tyler will
take your information. I'll let you know if we can
pull that off, because we have the Simpsons art you know,
(14:52):
the artwork there, a poster and with all of us there,
so if we can make I don't know if I
can make a copy of that. That's just the only
thing with the Simpsons. I don't know how that works there.
I'll get some of my best people on it. But
thank you, Chris. All right, we'll take a break. He's
one of the stars of the Eagles Super Bowl whim
Cooper de Gene will join us. Coming up next here,
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't know what he does for his twenty third birthday,
but his twenty second birthday was pretty cool. Cooper de Jean,
the Eagles defensive back, had to pick six as the
Eagles win the Super Bowl. They got the parade coming
up on Friday. How much sleep since Sunday, Coop?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Not a whole lot, Not a whole lot.
Speaker 11 (16:42):
I've been trying to catch up a little bit, but
I've gotten I've gotten very little sleep these past few days.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
How was the after party?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It was awesome. It was awesome. It's a lot better
when you win.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who is who is the MVP of the after party?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's a good question.
Speaker 11 (17:04):
There was a there's quite a few guys that were
having to having good time at the after party.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, you're just old enough to drink now now that
you're twenty two, So did you Did you celebrate as
well with these guys?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Of course, of course I celebrate.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
I had to had to celebrate winning a world championship
and on my birthday, so I had to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The defensive game plan of not blitching. Was that discussed
prior to the game, that that was going to be
the game plan? That nobody is going after mahomes other
than your front four.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's the way we
practiced all week. It's just to play our coverage like
we like we've done all year. Obviously we've blitz a
little bit this year, but I think, you know, we
we work really well together in the back end the
way we plays on coverage and the way we match routes,
and you know, it's it makes it easy on on
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the back end when you know you got a D
line up front, that's that gets pressure without without having
to you know, plits the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What was your job? What was your role in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
I mean, just to disrupt timing and you know, packing
zones and make create tight windows for the quarterback, you know,
disrupt timing from the receiivers getting off the getting off
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know, try to give our D line as much time.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
To get to the quarterback, you know, and then and
then packing those zones, you know, and switch up the
picture on the quarterback and you know, make him have
to make him have to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What did you show my homes or that maybe he
didn't see on your pick six?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, I think we were We were playing uh zone
coverage and you know.
Speaker 11 (18:53):
The way we played it, it was I was kind
of playing off Zach in front of me, and he
actually actually ran to the flat, which was my responsibility,
and it allowed me to fall back inside. But I think,
I think that's just how it's been all year, just
us playing off of each other. And I saw him
go out there to the flat, and I was able
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to fall back inside and got to be a free
player and just read the quarterback and able to pick
the ball off.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
When did you start thinking end zone?
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Right when I caught the ball. Every time I touched
the ball, I want to score. You know, It's it's
been that way since as long as I remember playing football.
So but luckily I got some got some blocks out
there from the big guys up up front.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Threw me some blocks and found my way in to
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Did you keep the ball?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Of course? Of course.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I Sometimes you get too excited and you might, you know,
be spiking it or something and then teammate has to
grab it or something. But look, this isn't normal like
your age Super Bowl going against Mahomes six. I mean,
how do you how do you process that of where
you were, where you were drafted and uh, here you are.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, it's I mean, I don't think I processed it yet.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
Yeah, three and a half years ago, I was in
high school and I'm playing on on the biggest stage
in football in the super Bowl, and I think it's
just a lot of credit to the people who've helped
me along along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You didn't have a Mahomes poster on your wall growing up,
did you?
Speaker 11 (20:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
I did watch him. You haven't haven't played quarterback? You know,
I did watch him quite a bit growing up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But did you talk to him at all? Have you
talked to Mahomes after the game?
Speaker 12 (20:45):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I have it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I'm not sure. Yeah, I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And I wouldn't ask him to sign the football. I'd
wait a little while before you do something like that.
Take me into halftime. What was it like, Yeah, I
mean a lot of a lot of focus.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
I think, you know, I think everybody understood that the
game wasn't over because you know, we understood who you
know who, who they were on.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
On that side.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
You know their their offense and what they're capable of,
their quarterback, their offense. How explosive it is and you know,
so we knew, we knew it wasn't finished, you know,
at halftime, and you know we had to you know,
we had to go out there and you know put
it away in that second half.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
When did you know the game was over?
Speaker 11 (21:34):
That's I mean, I don't know if I really crossed
my mind until it was later in that in that
fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like thirty four to nothing, I think you feel pretty safe,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
That.
Speaker 11 (21:46):
Then I think we gave up We give up a touchdown,
So I mean I was I was still a little
a little nervous. I didn't want to, you know, say
it was over yet, but there's there was definitely a
lot of a lot of confidence when we got when
we went up thirty four.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I think that you guys should put the score
forty to six on your ring because those last two
touchdowns they really don't count. I mean, it was an
incredible defensive performance, but you gave up a couple of
garbage touchdowns. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
Yeah, I think the way our defensive played, we just
we just continue to get better over the year, and
you know, the performers that we put out there, you know,
in the super Bowl on the biggest stage I don't
think it's a surprise to any of us, you know,
the work we put it in, you know, throughout the
whole year, throughout practice, and then just going out there
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and do our doing, doing our thing, what we've done
all year.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The number of people lived in your hometown is what
A thousand?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
This? Hundred thousand?
Speaker 13 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, yep. Do you get a statue in your hometown?
Is there any talk of a Cooper to Gene statue?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I don't. I don't think there's any talk of that,
uh not that I've earned, at least that I've heard.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, we should start that. Where is anybody more famous
in your hometown?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I mean not, not that I know of.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
I don't know if there's I don't know if there's
any any professional athletes from from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A thousand people. You got a traffic light in your hometown? No?
Why don't you? Why don't you have one installed? Like
you could have the Cooper to g And you gotta
have something in there the Cooper to g Maybe a
park bench, maybe a traffic light, uh stop something yeah,
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your defense, I mean stop. I think that would be
a By the way, if I get a slam dunk
contest for NFL players. How do you think you do?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You know, I got a couple of couple of tricks
in my bag that I could do. I don't.
Speaker 11 (23:59):
I haven't played basketball in a while, so I probably
need a little bit of practice, But I think I could.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I could compete a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What's your go to.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Go to? Man? Probably just a windmill.
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Maybe something off the side of the backboard, could be
something off the glass.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Three sixty, three sixty. That's some ideas.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think we should get this together and maybe I
could work on this. I got to work on a
statue for you in a slam done contest with NFL players. Congrats,
a great moment for you, certainly for your family and
your hometown as well, and thanks for joining us. Be
careful with the parade on Friday, Cooper.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Absolutely, be careful.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Be careful. Cooper to Jean the Eagles defensive bank. Not
a bad birthday. So Saquan's birthday same day and he
gets the pick six there. Yeah, I would steer clear
of Pennsylvania on Friday. The parade going on there in Philadelphia.
Oh boy, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 14 (25:08):
Is that the one seed of Super Bowl parades that
could get squarely for lack of a better.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, well, it feels like anytime hockey has a parade
that that would be the number one seed. I was
in Vancouver many, many, many years ago when Vancouver lost
the Stanley Cup Final, and I felt lucky to get
out of the arena, out of the city and go
to the airport that was That was a little bit scary. Yeah,
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you never factored that in. Yeah, And I understand when
you lose you might be upset. It's when you win
and then all of a sudden you're turning over cars
and you're tearing down light pole like I never understood
that you won. You won, Yes, Dodd.
Speaker 15 (25:55):
Did you ever do anything or near somebody that all
of a sudden their behavior changed dramatically because of that
mob mentality? Some someone that would normally not behave that
way gets caught up in the moment starts doing things
you would never expect you. I have had some friends that,
like I never thought would just kind of get rowdy,
you know, like at a party, or they just kind
of trying to be like everyone else and doing you know,
this questionable behavior.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
What did you do?
Speaker 13 (26:17):
We're at a party and.
Speaker 15 (26:18):
Like people of friends of mind that I didn't realize
drink or maybe I hadn't before had one too many,
and they're just kind of jumping around and kind of
in someone's house and borderline breaking stuff. And like when someone's.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Happen borderline breaking stuff.
Speaker 15 (26:31):
Banging into like you know, furniture and what looks like
expensive objects in this kid's parents house. To me, that's
a wild time.
Speaker 14 (26:39):
How does that come to a parade with thousands and
thousands of people?
Speaker 15 (26:42):
I'm talking about mob mentality in journal like that?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Why is it I don't throwing a car windows.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Billy just banged into something that looks very expensive.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
That's crazy. That coffee table is almost broken.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just knock three books up to this show. We're going
to borderline break some stuff here.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Put a coaster down, you could leave a ring.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Who's with me?
Speaker 13 (26:59):
How to put the sink?
Speaker 15 (27:00):
You could just leave it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I was gonna step on Wow, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I did do a run in Morgantown, West Virginia, which
might as well at some point been an epicenter of
mob mentality. And it is crazy how you could think
that things like you know, keg bowling or burning couches
is just kind of what you do.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, like, no, it's normal.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
This is what.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, let's get all of these empty kegs. Let's put
them at the bottom of this gigantic hill and then
we'll get another empty keg and roll it down from
the top of High Street all the way down to see.
Let's see if we could hit any of them. And
it turns into just a projectile. It seemed like a
good idea at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Every time Dayton would beat Notre Dame in basketball, they
would burn couches, which I don't know why because then
you need a new couch. But you would go into
this part of the campus and there would just be
couches burning and they were celebrating, and I just thought, God,
that's dumb. Now you don't have a couch, so it'd
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be out there on fire after you beat Notre Dame. Marvin,
did you ever do anything crazy after the Yukon Huskies
won national championships.
Speaker 16 (28:14):
No, it was a lot of people watching though, and
like you said, a lot of people burning couches. Obviously
everywhere outside of stores Connecticut. The Yukon campus itself, it's
pretty tame. It's on a farm. Yeah, But when Yukon
was in the final four. All bets were off.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
PAULI, did you do anything suspicious.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
Around a parade or a celebration? I was around in
Chicago door manning when the Bulls won. There's a lot
of people who left their cars on Rush Street, and
they should know because they're going to get ripped up
turned over. I didn't participate, but I saw it. It was
there's some rough stuff with the cars.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, there's certain Well, I just saw the celebration in
Philadelphia after they won the Super Bowl. I think they
stole two garbage trucks and they were bringing down light poles.
I believe maybe police car got turned over. Hopefully, hopefully
tomorrow or Friday will be respectable.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
Maybe it's a Friday though I know, easy day off work.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, it's probably best that it's on a Friday. That
gives you Saturday and Sunday to recuperate. Yes, Tom, has
it become a.
Speaker 15 (29:24):
I still can't understand. I'm no psychiatrist. Psychologists a free
for all of lawlessness, Like you now have a certain
period of time where you can just do nearly anything
because your team won a championship. Like what would go
in someone's mind to think that now it's okay. Somebody
that's against the law is okay for the next few hours.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know what goes into their mind. I know
what goes into their body. It's called alcohol. That you
see is what is the great enhancer?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
There?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Dale and Iowa, Iowa. That's Dale in Iowa Ideal.
Speaker 17 (29:53):
Hey, Dan, I just caught your interview with Cooper Degen.
And by the way, his hometown is Old the Bolt,
which is up up in that area of the state.
And yeah, I think they got grain elevators in a
railroad crossing.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
But that's it.
Speaker 17 (30:06):
But the one thing that hit me was during that
whole thing, Cooper Degene was the one last year against
Minnesota that took that pump return late in the fourth
quarter for a touchdown that was ruled in valid.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Fair catch yep.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
When he would make an interception a turnover, he was
planning on taking it back for a touchdown. Zach and Knoxville, Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (30:30):
A DP, Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Man.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
As far as the Cooper Dejene stuff, maybe we can.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Put in a four way intersection there in his hometown,
and if he wins another Super Bowl, we put in
a stoplight, okay, but.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
And Christian Tennessee. He said that you can't.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Compare other eras and other teams and things like that.
So I hate that your show is supposed to go
for another three and a half years. But I thought
that was the whole premise of sports talk radio. I'll
hang up and listen right.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's not three and a half years. It's less than
three years. But I enjoy the conversation. And what I
love is I'm able to bring back names that maybe
you don't factor in, or that maybe you didn't get
a chance to see, having seen Doctor J in the Aba,
or my first you know, Bill Walton game was his
(31:20):
first game he ever played against leu Al Sindor or
Kareem Abdul Jabbaram. I got to see Wilt play, I
got to see Jerry West play. I got to see
Oscar play. Bill Russell's the only modern day Hall of
Famer that I don't think I got to see play.
And although I did get to see the Celtics, I started.
I saw the Celtics in seventies. So Dave Cowens came
(31:42):
there in nineteen seventy and he was co Rookie of
the Year with Jeff Petrie. But to see John Habilcheck play,
to see games in the garden, you know, so I
was very fortunate. But I like when people like Elgin Baylor,
to me, is maybe the most underrated player in the
history of the NBA, because nobody saw him. If you
look at his numbers, you know, it's video game stuff
(32:03):
where you're going, yeah, and he was different, like he
played an athletic game and back then you did not
have that. And then you couple him with Jerry West,
you had two guys who are really changing the game
with their athleticism. But Elgin Baylor six ' four, great
great jumpers, score, rebounder, And I like that some of
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these players that maybe you didn't know about, maybe you
just see their name in a book and maybe you know,
to bring their story to life.
Speaker 14 (32:33):
Yeampoin, I really wish I could have seen Pete Marivitch
night to night play college basketball like we saw Jimmer
for a debt of a decade ago. He was averaging
twenty eight, which is really impressive and it was cool.
But I can't imagine a guy averaging forty four with
no three point line. It's hard to even process and
to be able to see at night, and that must
have been amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, you knew he was getting the ball and his
dad was the coach, and he was going to shoot.
But we've had a couple of you know this day
in sports history, Like he scored forty seven in the
second half of two games I think in the same
year he ended up with sixty nine points. And once again,
if you had a three point shot, and I had
(33:14):
the great LSU coach Dale Brown, I asked him if
he could go back and look at the shooting charts
of Pete Maravich when he played. So he did. He
went back and looked at the games and the shooting charts. Now,
once again they didn't have a three point shot. So
he superimposed a three point line and said Pete would
(33:34):
have averaged fifty five a game. And he's playing in
the SEC and now there wasn't the integration that obviously
you have now. But still Pete was playing against some
pretty good teams. Kentucky was always good. But Dale said
that I think Pete's final year at LSU he would
average fifty five a game, factoring in the three point shot.
(33:57):
But that's Pete was shooting. There was no three point shot.
Imagine if you know, there's a three point shot. But
his handle was as good as anybody who's ever played
the game. Now, you can say Kyrie and you certainly
have an argument, but having watched both of them, Pete
did things with the basketball that you know, maybe the
Globe Trotters were doing, and that's against the Washington generals.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
Yes, Marv, Yeah, when it comes to ball handling, he
feels like that evolution chart. He feels like the first
guy walking erect like because everybody else was. Yeah, look
at him and he's like, nah, we gonna we're gonna shoot,
We're gonna dribble like this.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, we give Bob Coosey a lot of credit, but
he was you know, in the era, he was kind
of a magician with the basketball, but he was right
hand dominant, but he was a creator. I mean, there
are a lot of great things about Bob Cousy. Now, granted,
could he play now, No, he couldn't play now. I
get it. Uh, he would adapt to today, I'm guessing,
(34:53):
but back then, the way he played, he was different
than anybody else in the court, and Pete was that
way too. Not everybody wanted to play with Pete because
you know, he was a gunner. I think he got
to the point where he was such a good score
he got bored and then he started making, you know,
great passes, but really a wonderful ball handler. He was
(35:15):
just never a winner, and I think that that was
something that always bothered him. He went to the Celtics
late in his career because Larry Bird wanted him to
go there to play with him. All right, let me
take a break. More phone calls coming up, Nick Wright
coming up top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
Seat and update the poll result. I'm not even sure
what the poll question is for hour two of this program.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
We had a couple of like sort of poll questions
floating around here, but we haven't really addressed the hour
one pole question much biggest threat to the Eagles in
the NFC. Your options are Lions, forty nine ers, commanders,
let's see Buccaneers, Vikings, rams, other right now running away
with that one. Fifty eight percent is the Lions, followed
(36:07):
by the commanders. Then other has five percent.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Of the vote.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Who do you think the other is.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
That people are voting for.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Dallas.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I mean, that's got to be just Dallas fans though,
because nobody takes that seriously.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, no, But you know, we talked about this, it's
probably mid season, maybe a little earlier, when we said
the Cowboys have a real problem coming up. It's kind
of a good problem. Now they have to pay Dak
Prescott and they were gonna have to pay CD Lamb
and then they I said, they have to pay Micah Parsons.
So you have three guys who are going to be
(36:46):
top end at their position, so you better be really
good in surrounding them, and that didn't go well. Michaeh.
Parsons is going to get forty million dollars. He will
be the highest paid non quarterback. I'm guessing when it's
all set and up, Cede Lamb got top end money
and Dak got top end money, they're not in a
(37:09):
good position, even though you have one you know, looks
like surefire Hall of Famer and Michael Parsons, Cede Lamb
could be, and Dak has been a good quarterback in
his career. But other than that, I mean, you've got
to make sure that you do not miss when it
comes to draft, and don't tell me you're all in
when you're not all in, when you don't do anything,
(37:30):
and you hire your coach on a Friday night.
Speaker 14 (37:34):
Yes, Pauline, it does seem like teams like even Tampa
Bay is probably more threatening Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
They're solid.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
They made the playoffs, so sure Green.
Speaker 13 (37:43):
Bay eleven wins last year.
Speaker 14 (37:44):
Green Bay outscored their opponents by one hundred and twenty
two points. The Cowboys were outscored by one hundred and
twenty points.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, Seton.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
You know, watching the Super Bowl this year, for some reason,
by the end of it, I was like, you know what, man,
we need to save ceed Lamb. We need to get
him off that team and get him into some that's
going to contend because he's way too good of a
player to just be languishing there.
Speaker 16 (38:06):
Yes, Marvin, is he next year, Sakuon Barkley that he
goes to another team, Like, you know, we just got
to get a great player out of a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, but you can't spend all this money on Dak
and then take away his number one weapon semantics. Yeah,
I think I think you can though.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I think people do that, But then what do you
going to the Chiefs let tyreek Hill go. I mean,
I granted you still had Kelsey, but well they have
a better quarterback. And that was a prett shocking move though. Yeah,
but it was a running back the wide receiver. Everybody's
looking for those guys running back. You know, we were
(38:47):
devaluing them.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And I'm curious to see what happens in the draft
if all of a sudden teams go you know, on
second thought, we might go a little higher for a
running back. Diane or Russini, she works for the Athletics.
She's an NFL reporter and the Scoop City podcast with
Chase Daniel, and she had this to say about Aaron Rodgers'
(39:08):
situation with the Jets When they.
Speaker 18 (39:11):
Had conversations with Aaron Rodgers about what the future would
look like. If you're going to be part of this team,
you're going to attend all the trading camp, You're not
going to do Pat McAfee interviews anymore.
Speaker 13 (39:21):
Wait, they said that.
Speaker 18 (39:22):
Yeah, if you were to stay here, here's how we
would want.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
It to be.
Speaker 18 (39:27):
So this to me is Aaron Glenn getting control back.
Speaker 14 (39:31):
So do you think that if he would have agreed
to not do that stuff, that he would have been
their quarterback.
Speaker 18 (39:35):
I think that no matter what the Jets were going
to say, Aaron Rodgers wanted to move on.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well, he did come back to talk to them, so
I don't know if he clearly wanted to move on,
because if that's the case, are you really going to
go out of your way and fly back to talk
to the Jets. I think Aaron Glenn did the right decision,
you know, made the right decision. Move on from him,
but giving the audience out of respect. But you're going
to tell him not to be on McAfee. He's got
(40:02):
to be here for all the you know, off season workouts.
I mean, okay, you know the McAfee thing. I don't
know how much you know, how many fires they were
putting out because of that, But McAfee's paying in whatever,
a million dollars. You're not going to walk away from that.
It's not like Aaron was doing it just out of
the goodness of his heart. He was being paid to
(40:24):
do that. But I mean, good for McAfee came up
with the business model to pay Saban and Belichick. Aaron
Rodgers and you make headlines. But if you're the Jets,
I don't know. Did he kind of take away from
all the bad play that you guys had or how
bad you are? Maybe we focused on it. Maybe Aaron
Rodgers took one for the team. He's like, Hey, you
(40:45):
know what, put all this attention on me, not on
my team being bad, but I would not be Yeah,
And you know, I keep hearing Steelers for some it's
like Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers and I go, I
don't get it. Or the Raiders I kind of get it.
But if I'm the Raiders and I'm starting out, if
(41:07):
I'm Tom Brady, I want to get my own quarterback
in there. And do I want Aaron Rodgers for a year?
Like who would ever have thought Aaron Rodgers would be
a band aid quarterback? Like come on in for a year,
you know, like Tyrod Taylor or something. Here, Jacoby Brissette.
Ten minutes from now, Nick Wright will join us. Get
(41:29):
his thoughts on his Chiefs going down in Fames
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