March 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan is impressed by the resurgence of the Golden State Warriors after acquiring Jimmy Butler. And Auburn Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bruce Pearl joins DP as he gets ready for the SEC Conference Championship Tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Need's Dan Patrick
Show got into a heated discussion with Chris Simms last
hour talking about inflating footballs, deflating footposts. It's ten years old.
It was a random topic there. Probably didn't expect to
dive into that with Chris Simms, but he was with
the Patriots and spent a year there as a coach,
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and we started joking around socializing with Tom Brady. Did
Brady invite him out when he took his teammates out
and he brought up Deflategate And then I wanted to
know where Chris stood on that, and then he told
me that, you know, he's basically a get off my lawn.
It's the rule, don't deflate the footballs. And I said,
I think it's a silly rule. Should Tom Brady have
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been punished? Yes, he broke a rule and he lied
about it. More importantly to the commissioner. He lied to
the commissioner. The rule is the fact that Aaron Rodgers
came on the show and said that he over inflated.
So somebody went out of their way to over inflate
a football. Remember it was this clandestine way of getting
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the football and breaking into something or trying to do
it without the officials.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You had the deflator on the team, which was the
obvious giveaway.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Guys, nickname is the deflator.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And I just think if both quarterbacks decide how they
want the football, I don't have a problem with that.
But that rule is still in place. But Chris Simms
and I we went back and forth. March is here,
the dance is just beginning, and the Big Ten in
Big East men's basketball tournaments tip off live tomorrow exclusively
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on Peacock. You had a couple of teams that punched
their ticket, as they like to say, Wafford. It's Wafford College,
not the University of Wofford, but they beat fu Furman
and Troy also got in. Four more berths coming up
tonight the Horizon League, Northeast CIA and the WCC eight
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seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
Bruce Pearl, head coach of the Auburn Tigers, will join us.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. A little bit later on,
as we continue to discuss some of the hits and
missus with free agency, the Jets get Justin Field, Seahawks
Sam Darnold, the Commanders acquire Laramie Tunsell, and Josh Pause.
Sweat goes to the Cardinals. You still have the Aaron
Rodgers to the Steelers question mark. And if that's the case,
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then Russell Wilson maybe to the Giants question mark. But
if the Steelers wanted to keep Russell Wilson, they would
have already done it, right, But they're holding out hope
for Aaron Rodgers because Russell Wilson can make you nine
and eight again. Aaron Rodgers maybe could get you twelve wins,
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eleven wins, maybe a first round playoff win more importantly,
but still wait for that. Maybe that comes down by
the end of the day. A Pole question Dylan is
in for U Seaton. Pritzy is here, the King of Content.
Marvin is here wearing the T shirt that I got
in Santa Barbara brought it all the way back. Thought
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about him. I don't know why I did, because he's
not necessarily a Bulls fan. You're a basketball fan. But
the nineteen ninety one Chicago Bulls championship shirt. If you're
watching on Peacock, it looks lovely.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Thank you so much. I like Paulie and Fritzy. I
live in the creates.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah you do, which means you love the history. Correct,
Yes much, Yes you do, Dylan. Poll question from our
one and then what are we going to go with
hoard two?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Dan, our one was next season, the Steelers should go
with Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is taking
it at about fifty six percent. Wow, I'm inclined to agree.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Wow. Oh, I would go with Aaron Rodgers. I'd roll
the dice.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I would I think he's done that Aaron Rodgers is done. Well,
if he's done, then Russ is done.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
They're both done.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's which one's.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Less done, less done, done done. I take Aaron Rodgers.
Russ can get you nine inning.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Gay, I had neither, as.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You could, I'd prefer you didn't. Okay, what would neither be?
They don't have a quarterback? Just yeah, just roll Ben Roethlisberger.
What's the poll question for hour two?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
So we got a couple options. Dan going off the
deflate gate talk. Are you in favor of the rule
against the fighting the football? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't know if I want to go down this
road today.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
We could do an alternative one. Okay, who is the
better QB situation? The Seahawks with Darnold, Raiders with Gen
Smith or Jets with Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, I mean it might be just Sam Donald and
Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We can do just the two.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, because one happened. Because the other one happened.
You know, the Raiders, you know, traded for him. Therefore,
Seattle it opened up the opportunity to get Sam Darnald.
All right, eight seven seven three DP. Show a couple
of basketball highlights. Golden State, Golden State. Here they go
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and they have a home stand here. You know, the
Lakers have a brutal stretch. They lost to the Nets, right,
they don't have Lebron and you know, the West is
so tightly compacted there that if you end up losing
like five of your next seven, now all of a sudden,
you're looking at play in territory. But with Golden State,
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they're twelve and two since February eighth. They got a
game coming up. They have Seattle, New York, Denver, Milwaukee,
and Toronto, so they have home games here and what
a big advantage. Jimmy Butler has played well and I
like the Jimmy Butler deal in the short term. I
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don't want him for more than two years, but it
does give Steph Curry one more shot at maybe competing
for a championship. Because I ended up talking to Mike
Dunleavy Senior at the Super Bowl. And the reason why
I bring this up is his son is the GM
of the Golden State Warriors, and I said, now I
can I can say this, but Mike Senior, I said,
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how desperate are they to get somebody at the trade deadline?
And so we started talking about this. Now he didn't
say it's off the record, but you know we've spoken
generalities of.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know, can you get KD? Can you get Jimmy Butler?
Like who fits?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And so he gave me a little bit of information
that I'm sure that he gleaned from conversations with his son,
the former Duke Star. But they got Jimmy Butler. You know,
they were going for KD. And I think Kd's on
another team next season, but they wanted Kevin Durant, and
Durant didn't want to revisit that. I mean, would I
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want to go back and play with Draymond after he
made life miserable for me while we're winning titles. No,
you are winning, but it comes at a call like
they won. But it must have been so bad that
he wanted out where you go? I'm tired of listening
to Draymon. Oh okay, Draymon.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Yeah, PAULI, Losing is miserable. Winning with Jerks is tolerable?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Until it's not? Apparently?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because you know, but he won his titles and they
probably said, all right, I've done what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Now it can go have my own team. I mean,
I think that was the flaw.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I get to play with somebody I like in Kyrie
and let's go to Brooklyn and Okay, it didn't work out.
But I don't think he wanted to revisit that. Okay,
got to join Steph to win another title. You just
don't want to go down that road. I don't think
he needs to go down that road. But he's going
to be on another team next season. But Golden State
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is playing. You know, you want to be quiet you
don't want anything stupid, said by Draymond. You just want
to play good basketball, get your bench ready, get ready
for the playoffs, and then there'll be a tough out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But you know, the.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Lakers are in a trickier situation because this is the
stretch and the schedule. Lebron was publicly criticizing the most
brutal stretch and their schedule. You know, the rest of
the season is I think the toughest in the NBA.
I've been talking about this, maybe too much, but I've
been talking about Joker some of the numbers here and
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saying that he's not going to win the MVP, but
he should. And Michael Malone, the Nuggets head coach, had
this to say about the MVP race.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
Obviously, Shay Gilgos Alexander is a great player, and if
he wins his first MVP, you know he's deserving of that.
My thing is this, you know, if you didn't know
that Nicola won three MVPs, and I've put player A
and player B on paper, and you had no idea
that the guy who's averaging a triple double, the guy
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who's top three in the three major statistical categories, things
that no one's ever done. He wins the MVP ten
times out of ten, and if you don't think so,
I think you guys are all fully.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right, Michael, don't call me Mike. I agree with him.
I agree Joker could have four MVPs. He can have five.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
MVPs if you include this year. He's playing at that level.
But you know, he won three and then all of
a sudden, it's we can't let that happen. Lebron James
hasn't on an MVP since twenty twelve. He was twenty
eight years of age. I find that amazing that the
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best player in the game, or at least for during
that period a good portion of the period, never won
an MVP. It's he got to the point where, okay,
he finished second three times, conceivably could have seven MVPs.
Joker could conceivably have five if you're being fair to
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what you see. We get caught up in okay, best
player on the best team. Okay, Well, the best player
on the best team right now is Donovan Mitchell. And
I haven't heard his name at all, but Shay Gilgis
is a incredible score.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But he's not better than Joker. He's not.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You could ask Shay gilgis he probably, in a true moment,
say jokers a better player. Jay Gilger is going to
say I'm a better score but better all around player.
It's not even close. But that's value, how you interpret
it value. I loved voting for these awards. I felt
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like it was a privilege and honor, and I had
to equate what is value. I struggled mightily over Jason
Kidd and Grant Hill for Rookie of the Year. I
changed my vote on the last day, the last hour
that you could send in your bount I went back
and forth. But you got to have the same people
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watching the same amount of games understanding what's going on.
There's certain players you have to go out of your
way to watch, you do because some of the other
games are always on right in front of us. Then
we tend to lean towards those players in those teams.
But if Shay wins it and he's going to good,
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it's good for the league as well. I think another
young player MVP not in your major market there and
they've done a wonderful job in building that team.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So it's going to be a topic.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was a topic last year when all of a sudden,
Joker was going to win. Kendrick Perkins came on and
all of a sudden had this barnstorming tour to tell
everybody it should be Joe El Embiid that I'm thinking,
Kendrick Perkins, you don't know what you're talking about. And
I still stand by that that Joker was better than
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Joel Embiid. Joe El Embiid, it was his turn, it
was his time. I'm like, that is silly, but he
was a great player. Was He'll never be a great
player again, guess.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Paul Lebron had a five year stretch aged twenty four
to twenty eight. He won four out of five MVPs.
He finished top two for Defensive Player of the Year twice.
He was top five five years in a row. Oh,
he never won another MVP after age twenty eight. He's
finished second place three times, second place to Giannis Harden
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and Durant.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Lance in Vegas, Hi Lance, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (13:14):
Good morning Dan, first time, long time hoping five to
seven and a half, one hundred and fifty seven. Hey,
you were you were talking about Josh Sweat, Yeah, and
names like that, the one that's made me laugh inappropriately
for years. Is Mark Sweeney, the former Kansas City Royal
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Mark Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We're all twelve, Thank you Lance. Yes, hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Mark Sweeney. Uh brings me back to the name game
when I was in high school and I can't even
tell you some of the names that I grew up with.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I win this.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I win this competition every single time, every single time.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes, paum.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
We were on the road when I first started working
with you back in like Dayton, and the topic came
up and I said, I went to school with a
girl named April Shower. You're like, hold up a second,
I'm going to tell you something, and you went through them.
I was like, I still had that reaction.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When my mom was alive, I would call her.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sometimes it'd be all hours of the night because be
out drinking and people to say, oh I knew somebody,
and I go hold on here, and I'd get my
mom on and I'd make her pronounce the name of
my priest and you would have to look it up
on YouTube. But because she's she told me, you know
a long time before she passed away, to not do
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that to our priest at Saint Susannah and so. But
I would call my mom and say, Mom, what was
the name of our priest? And she'd go, oh, Danny,
and then she we'd give you the name and people
would be like.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You gotta be kidding me. Nope, not kidding.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, we'll get to more phone calls. We're gonna
play the Cooper Flag game coming up. I don't know
what it is, but I'm excited we'll have that. But
coming up next talk some college basketball. Bruce Pearl, Auburn
head coach, will join us. Hope you'll join us after
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Speaker 2 (16:32):
DraftKings just sent me the odds to win it all
in March Madness. It's Duke, followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston,
and Alabama. He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers,
his eleventh year there. He's Bruce Pearl. It was six
years ago in Minneapolis. I had you in studio, you
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had your team in the final four, and I said
to Paulie, I'm gonna make Bruce Pearl cry that day,
And you did shed a teer a light tier, but
I got you to cry.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Hi Bruce, Hi, Dan? Who are you?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I'm great. I'm not going to try to make you
cry this time.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know, of all your great accomplishments over the course
of your career, I hope my shedding a tier isn't
one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It was just a goal to see if I could,
you know, bring out that emotion. Because you're an emotional guy.
You say you cry a lot. I don't know if
you've cried the last two games that you lost. You know,
no offense here the timing of this, but you know,
when's the last time you cried.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Let's see, I probably cried after we'd be Kentucky at
RUP and won the championship. I'd say, I would say probably.
You know, I'm pretty passionate. You talk about fan only
talk about the lord, you know, talk about the blood,
sweat and tears that go into all the things that
it takes to win a championship. In other words, just
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like putting up with me and my expectations, my accountability,
my you know, my my temper. I'm grateful, grateful, uh
and blessed and did not cry after we lost to
text A and M and Alabama because we've lost four games.
We've lost to Duke and John Shire at John Shied Duke,
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and we lost to Todd Golden at Florida, and those
that those had been the only two losses we had
had for a long time. And and and so for
a while I could say, like, the only coaches in
the country that I'm willing to lose to are Jewish
coaches John Shired, Todd Golden, Like, if you're not Jewish,
I'm not losing to you. We Jews don't like to
lose very often, in case you haven't noticed with our
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Israel con. And but then Buzz Williams came in ranked
you know, fourteenth in the country, and and then of
course we love to nat oates. And I don't think
either one of those guys you know, got a temple.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh, Princey, would you check and see if they're the
other two coaches or Josh?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, So why'd you cry after you lost or one
at Kentucky at rupp Arena.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, you know, I think just I guess the motion
of it all the the the being being, you know,
really really grateful. Dan. I think what we do as
we work in this this this ministry, or in this
thing about coaching, we are we are we are built
to win and compete for championships. We really truly do.
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And at the end of the day, there was a
championship that could be one I didn't cry at when
we beat when we when we won the Maui Invitational.
You know that that you know, that wasn't that wasn't
big enough. But I think because the league was so
good and it was so hard, and every night you
had to kind of get and and there were a
lot of upsets. My basketball team did not get upset
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very much at all. Uh And in the sense that
they beat a lot of people they were supposed to beat.
And uh, I probably just tried it cried out of gratitude, gratefulness.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Who's the best player in college basketball this year?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, I think jan I Broom is that it should
be the college player of the year because of all
that he's accomplished and and and all that he's able
to do for our team. Leads us and scoring and
rebounding and assists and and and and obviously stepped up
in the biggest games. I think Cooper Flag at Duke
is going to be if he's not the first player drafted,
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is gonna be one of the top player drafted. And
and Cooper is an amazing player who plays so hard
and impacts the game so much. But what Auburn has
done this year through this league to have sixteen Quad
one wins has never been done before. That means on
we we had twenty games against the Corps one. Now,
when you're playing a quad one game, I don't care
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where you're ranked one through thirty five. Let's say we've
got a fifty five sixty percent chance of winning that game,
even if we're one, playing against the team that's twenty
and win sixteen of those out of twenty is just unprecedented.
And so therefore I feel like our best player is
the best player at college basket.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, let's say you're coaching Cooper Flag yep, and you
want him to come back for another year, but you
want him to realize he wants to come back for
another year, not you selfishly as a coach, how would
you go about trying to convince Cooper Flag to stay
one more year?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, first of all, I would I would only try
to convince him to do it if I truly felt
like it was in his best interests, not just in mind.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And have you seen the Washington Wizards roster, Bruce, Yes,
I have.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Here's here's here's the one the one factor that I
would ask to consider him. To consider Dan, you know
that because you've been doing this a long time, it's
not how much you make, it's how long you can
make it. That's the truth. And so the question for
Cooper Flag would be what's the best position for you
to be in for your second and your third contract?
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And if there can be any discussion about the fact
that at eighteen or nineteen, when you are in position
at age twenty one, maybe to have to sign that
second big contract. You know, there's a difference between being
rich and being wealthy. People that are wealthy have made
it for a long time. And so that's the only
thing I would look at as far as what might
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be in his best interest is would waiting another year
put him in a better position to sign that second
and third contract that takes him from being rich to wealthy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He's only eighteen, that's right, crazy, crazy, that would be
the only factor. We're talking to Bruce Pearl, Auburn head coach.
SEC Conference tournament starts on Friday. We've talked about ofvariety
of things the NBA has, you know, face of the NBA.
Could we get the non North America basketball players to
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play against the US based players in the All Star Game?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Like where do you see?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, the globalization of basketball is the future in
Europe and other countries more so than it is in
the United States. If you consider I could probably give
you seven or eight of the top ten players in
the game and they're not from the United States.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, the game. I think the game is in great
shape DWN in the sense that worldwide it's really really popular.
And you're right, some of these international players, European players
are playing the game better than our guys have. One
of the factors has been just a skill level that
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they are brought up through a training program that isn't
like high school, AAU college, so on and so forth.
At the same time, your interest in our game and
the college game has never been better. Like the numbers
that we're pulling for the best. This is a tremendous
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regular season in college basketball, just even just the SEC.
How many ranked teams against ranked teams and then how
many of those games delivered Like the last two Saturdays
in the SEC Alabama Tennessee over time, Auburn Alabama overtime,
and the ratings are really good. I don't know. I
read a little bit about what's going on with the
NBA and what, but I couldn't tell you why. Some
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of those numbers are down, But our numbers have never
been stronger.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But the talent level, I mean, they're young, they're you know,
these guys, I mean jokers, what thirty or somewhere around there.
But if you put in Giannis, you put in Embid
and you put in Luca Shay Gilgis, you know, from Canada,
and maybe we go back to the dream team that
the Dream Team in ninety two sort of you know,
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birth this, they spawned all of this. I'm just curious,
does the does US basketball try to model itself after,
you know, instead of this AAU and we've seen that basketball.
It can be pretty ugly talented but ugly feels like
you know what Europe is doing in other countries is
they get you into a system, learn how to handle
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the ball, learn you know, the fundamental, be a big guy,
handle the ball on the perimeter, like all of these things.
It feels like the US is missing out on that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Well, I think there are people that are in the
professional basketball in world basketball that are studying this very
factor right now. They're absolutely looking at it. You know.
The the best explanation I can have for it is
the age that they have these European kids starting to
train the specialization into you know, the one particular sport.
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They don't have the same you know, rules as far
as how many hours you can or can't train, whether
you're a high school player and you can only practice
a certain amount of time, and in college so on
and so forth. You know. I think the other thing too,
the skill level right now is what is dominating our
sport in the sense that the men are so big
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and they're so strong, and they're so athletic that now
we're putting five guys out there on a perimeterive to
three point line and spreading the floor just so that
we have some space to be able to drive down
the lane and make place because nobody, hardly anybody is
putting a post player on the inside because there's there's
just no room for him. So side. Sometimes in some ways,
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the size and the athleticism of the American player that
may have been a dominating force in basketball is now
no longer as as an important a cog as the
ability to spread the floor and have the skills to
be able to shoot and handle, which is more akin
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to the European player.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Okay, but what would you do with Shack if he
was your center?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Oh, I'd find a way. I have. I am Jani
broom right now, and and and and we're gonna find
ways to get him inside and and and and and
and and and run our offense accordingly. So oh no, no,
you give me Shack. His big ass has got him
on the block, and good luck. The only way you're
gonna stop him is to hackershack him.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Who's the best player you recruited didn't get but the
best player you you recruited?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Wow? Well, you know it's interesting. Aj Devansta was somebody
that the kid, that young man is going to b yu. Uh.
He grew up in Boston and actually grew up in Brockton,
which is really a town outside of where I grew up.
And we got in early on him and and uh,
guy he's got a great family and and he he
was one of the highest rated players I think I've
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ever you know, not not gotten. Uh, Anthony Edwards maybe
in Atlanta would have been another one that that, you know,
that we worked on but didn't get there. There. There's
probably a long list of kids I finished second on,
but those are two probably pretty big names.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Tom Izzo said, Chris Weber made him cry because he
thought he was getting Chris Webber and then you lose
him to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's painful.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Oh yeah, no, no, it's that definitely is I remember
when Tom was an assistant for jud Heathcote and they
were playing the old Jennison Field House, and so I
don't know that Michigan State's program was in position when
Chris Weber was coming out out of Country Day High
School in Detroit to pick Michigan State over Michigan and
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tom Izzo hadn't quite done what he done now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, but he still had the magic Johnson era.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's great, and that's about I don't want to speak
to Michigan basketball history Michigan State basketball history, but the
perception of Michigan's program at that time was much stronger
than Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
When where were you in your career when Burden Magic
U arrived on the scene in college basketball.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I was just coming out of high school. I was
just starting at Boston College for doctor Tom Davis, starting
to be a manager and work in the industry.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So you're a lifer. You're a lifer, aren't you.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I was at BC in nineteen seventy eight before the
Big East was born. I saw Dave Gavitt get that
thing started. Doctor Tom Davis in the job he did
at Boston College goes way under the radar because of
you know, Louis Carnoseca and John Thompson, really Messamino, you know,
just Jim Beaheim and Yukon and we were at BC
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kind of doing great in those early early years of
the Big East. They almost took Holy Cross. Boston College
had to write a fifty thousand dollars check in the
athletic director Bill Flint at the time wasn't sure that
was going to be a good enough investment. Had to
get a door named Bernie Plansky to write that check.
Otherwise Holy Cross have been in the Big East and
now the CC not Boston College.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Wow, who do you get mistaken for in public.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Uh sometimes uh loop for Rigno, like the incredible, incredible,
the Green Monster that back when I when I was
a little bigger, not anymore. Every now and then Greg
Brady remember Brady Bunch had the affro, A little bit
of that, hey hey, and a really good day thirty
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forty years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Tom Jones, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, if women start throwing their underwear at you at
an Auburn game, like you know, Tom Jones in concert,
I'm thinking a little bit of Jeff Garland from curb
your enthusiasm, like Larry David's good buddy like that, like
a smaller verb maybe just the face, uh, and and
your voice you could be you know, Jeff Garland.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I've gotten a lot, a lot great you know, coaches,
we do agent Doggie.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Years, you know, are you okay?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Coaching seems to be the fun easier part than the
N I L and the recruiting.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah? Coaching because coaching is still you know, teaching and
and and and and developing and and and the gym
and the ball and and uh. Look, I like N
I L. Dan, because we're way overdue. Thank God for
n I L. For you for me and and it
would make this country great. And obviously the numbers that
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these kids are getting right now tells you how late
the n cua A was. Yeah, recognizing the value of
these student athletes. Now, listen, there's no right now. There
there are no rules. There are no regulations. We gotta
find so we gotta we go. If we're gonna have
a national champion Dan, then we truly need to be
playing more by the same rules. They play more by
the same rules in Major League Baseball, in the NFL
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and the NBA. Right now that we are on college
and we are trying to figure it out, there needs
to be bipartisans support in Washington, d C. To try
to find a way to bring this great college system
back while we're able to compensate the student athletes, you know,
wait for what they're worth. But there's got to be
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some guardrails. Senator Ted Cruz has got legislation right now.
But you know how Washington d C. Is completely dysfunctional,
and if the Republicans wanted the Democrats vote, we got
to find a way to bring it to be able
to have the intercollagiate system what we do and still
compensate our student athletes, and I think that's the best
way of doing it. Right now, we're just putting band
(32:35):
aids on it and we're all trying to navigate it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Great to talk to you. Congrats on the success. Hopefully
you don't run into a Jewish head coach of the
rest of the season. But thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Always a pleasure, Dan, and thanks for not making me cry.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
All right, this time, that's Bruce Pearl Friday SEC Tournament.
They will get underway, opponent to be determined, We'll take
a break and we'll play the Cooper Flag Game.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Some phone calls as well. Right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Update the poll results. Dylan in for a Seaton this week.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yes, Dan, who now have a letter QB situation the
Raiders with Gina Smith or Seahawks with Sam Donald Buy
a hair. Sam Donald is taking.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So the odds to win March Madness. It's Duke and
then closely followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston and Alabama. Three
of those teams out of the SEC SEC has been
great basketball wire to wire here. Oh, I have some
over unders here. Davante Adams over under touchdowns with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
All start with you six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Eight and a half blue bloopom.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Dk Metcalf over under this according to DraftKings touchdown receptions
in Pittsburgh, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Five and a half, Todd seven and a half blue
bloo bloop over under, Miles Garrett sacks for the Cleveland
Browns Super Bowl contender Cleveland brown m Todd over under
sacks for Miles Garrett this.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Paul thirteen and a half, Marvin fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Dylan eleven, fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, he's going to be angry. He's going to be
angry this year. Ready to go with that. And once again,
I have more information. I can't share it with you,
but I'm giving you sort of vagaries on the periphery
of some of the things that I found out on
Sunday about this deal.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But I do think he wanted to leave.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I think the Cleveland Browns were really steadfast and saying
we're not going to even entertain offers. And from what
I was told, unless it was a herschel Walker like
Hall that the Cowboys got from Minnesota. It wasn't going
to happen. Therefore, Okay, you're not going to trade me.
How are you going to compensate me for playing for
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this team. It's not that he thinks they're going to
be a contender. There's no way you could think that
you're going to be a super Bowl contender. I do
think that he did want to play. He wanted to
go elsewhere. Do I think he was also going to
get a new deal if he went elsewhere. I do
he was going to get paid either way. It just
he's getting paid to play for a worse team.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yes, time, but I thought, once you get the bag,
you may not be quite as motivated. Even though he's
upset that he's stuck with the Cleveland Browns. So where
do you wait the two of those?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Did Patrick Mahomes seem motivated when he got the bank
five hundred million dollar deal? He's a unique show. Hey, O,
Twani seem like he was motivated when he got the bag.
I think it's an unfair, you know, blanket we throw
on over athletes to say you made your money, now
you don't care I mean, those are two of the
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highest profile guys and they care as much as anybody does.
Andy and Rhode Island. And then we're gonna play the
Cooper flag game. Hi, Andy, welcome back. Good morning Dan.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Ask what's going on Marvin and pritzy Dan? Have you
ever thought about never really retiring? And I know that
might be a crazy idea. And the reason I bringing
up there is because I'll sound tigh of that. You know,
I'm having a hard time with it because your show
is a lifestyle to us. We wake up, we tell
the kids to be quiet from nine to twelve because
you know, your words was something that a lot of
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people appeal to.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Wait, well, Andy, do you want me to stay on
the air so your kids stay quiet?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
No?
Speaker 12 (37:06):
Absolutely no, No, that's not what I was just saying,
in the sense when you speak, everyone got to be
quiet because you know, you can't miss out on what
Dan is saying. But I was thinking about the idea
of how about using AI to you know, preserve you
broadcast and style, you know, a virtual Dan you know
with us was still with the Dan nets because you know,
(37:27):
I can't lose the.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Ambassador of humor.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Marvin seeing Paulie, like, we need the guys.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
And you know, even if.
Speaker 12 (37:34):
You decide to step away, it's going to be a
hard voice for anyone to feel because who does it
better than you did?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But thank you, Andy, Yeah, thank you. I'll look into AI.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, I'll look into artificial intelligence with my voice, but
I don't know if we can do a hologram. And
you know, I did wonder, okay over the weekend, just
throwing this out there. Did this was brought to my
attention by my wife and she said, are you are
(38:07):
you certain you're going to retire, you know, Christmas Eve
twenty twenty seven. I said yes, And she said, well,
you started your career in Atlanta at CNN. Why don't
you end your career in Atlanta? The Super bowls in
Atlanta that year. And it's the only time I ever
(38:28):
gave pause to this, and it was I I was
speechless when my wife said that, because I did start
my career, my TV career, my sports career in Atlanta.
And she said, what if you ended your career in
Atlanta at the super Bowl? And I said, you know what,
I'll think about Yeah, paul.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I've thought about this before, not because of the Atlanta Angle.
But retiring in the home stretch of the football season
would have felt a little weird for you. For us,
I thought that you would extend it two months. Maybe
not now, but down theroad. You're like, man, it's the
middle of football season. We're about to go to the playoffs,
and we're going to stop.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, but usually by that time of the year, I'm
tired of you guys, yeah, and you're tired of me,
and it's a good time to just take a break.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
And then not come back.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But my wife brought that up to me over the weekend.
We were on a romantic vineyard tour and maybe I
had too much wine and I'm one of the contract What.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, I don't know. That's pretty good. Huh.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Time to play the Cooper Flag Game. I don't know
if we have music to play the Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, that's that's kind.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Of the football theme music, all right, That's what I
had on day. All right, So Paul, let's play the
Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Duke Blue Devils freshman true freshman guard or forward has
been named both ACC Player of the Year and Rookie
of the Year. The eighteen year old is the fourth
player in AC history to win both honors in the
same season. A freshman winning Player.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Of the Year. Who who are the other three? Would
you like hints? How many of them played at Duke?
All of them? Yeah, Zion correct? Johnny Dawkins, No, Johnny,
I don't have Johnny Dawkins. Even winning Player of the
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Year Jay Williams, Nope.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Also a sophomore, yes, Marvin Julia okafor jeel okafor is correct?
In okay, I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
One more. Also, a Duchie.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
I loved him going into the draft and said he
should be number one overall. So it's somewhat recent history.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Okay, Oh, no, I thought he was going to be
a star. Marvin Bagley the.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Third Marvin Bagley junior, the two thousand and eight Freshman
of the Year Player of the Year. Here's a couple
of sophomores who won. David Thompson at NC State seventy
two to seventy three. He won the next two, by
the way, as a junior and senior Player of the Year.
Ralph Sampson won it as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
How about oh, I can't do it right now? I
have a trivia question for Cooper Flag about Cooper Flag
that has to do with the draft. But I'm up
against the break. So that's a tease into the next hour. Well,
you don't have to wait that long. I mean, you're
gonna wait maybe seven minutes, and then I'll ask the question,
(41:37):
and you know what, Marvin will probably come up with
the answer.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
You live in the crates Man, you do sure?
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
A final hour in this Tuesday
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Need's Dan Patrick
Show got into a heated discussion with Chris Simms last
hour talking about inflating footballs, deflating footposts. It's ten years old.
It was a random topic there. Probably didn't expect to
dive into that with Chris Simms, but he was with
the Patriots and spent a year there as a coach,
(00:29):
and we started joking around socializing with Tom Brady. Did
Brady invite him out when he took his teammates out
and he brought up Deflategate And then I wanted to
know where Chris stood on that, and then he told
me that, you know, he's basically a get off my lawn.
It's the rule, don't deflate the footballs. And I said,
I think it's a silly rule. Should Tom Brady have
(00:51):
been punished? Yes, he broke a rule and he lied
about it. More importantly to the commissioner. He lied to
the commissioner. The rule is the fact that Aaron Rodgers
came on the show and said that he over inflated.
So somebody went out of their way to over inflate
a football. Remember it was this clandestine way of getting
(01:12):
the football and breaking into something or trying to do
it without the officials.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You had the deflator on the team, which was the
obvious giveaway.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Guys, nickname is the deflator.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And I just think if both quarterbacks decide how they
want the football, I don't have a problem with that.
But that rule is still in place. But Chris Simms
and I we went back and forth. March is here,
the dance is just beginning, and the Big Ten in
Big East men's basketball tournaments tip off live tomorrow exclusively
(01:46):
on Peacock. You had a couple of teams that punched
their ticket, as they like to say, Wafford. It's Wafford College,
not the University of Wofford, but they beat fu Furman
and Troy also got in. Four more berths coming up
tonight the Horizon League, Northeast CIA and the WCC eight
(02:10):
seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
Bruce Pearl, head coach of the Auburn Tigers, will join us.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. A little bit later on,
as we continue to discuss some of the hits and
missus with free agency, the Jets get Justin Field, Seahawks
Sam Darnold, the Commanders acquire Laramie Tunsell, and Josh Pause.
Sweat goes to the Cardinals. You still have the Aaron
Rodgers to the Steelers question mark. And if that's the case,
(02:43):
then Russell Wilson maybe to the Giants question mark. But
if the Steelers wanted to keep Russell Wilson, they would
have already done it, right, But they're holding out hope
for Aaron Rodgers because Russell Wilson can make you nine
and eight again. Aaron Rodgers maybe could get you twelve wins,
(03:04):
eleven wins, maybe a first round playoff win more importantly,
but still wait for that. Maybe that comes down by
the end of the day. A Pole question Dylan is
in for U Seaton. Pritzy is here, the King of Content.
Marvin is here wearing the T shirt that I got
in Santa Barbara brought it all the way back. Thought
(03:25):
about him. I don't know why I did, because he's
not necessarily a Bulls fan. You're a basketball fan. But
the nineteen ninety one Chicago Bulls championship shirt. If you're
watching on Peacock, it looks lovely.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Thank you so much. I like Paulie and Fritzy. I
live in the creates.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah you do, which means you love the history. Correct,
Yes much, Yes you do, Dylan. Poll question from our
one and then what are we going to go with
hoard two?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Dan, our one was next season, the Steelers should go
with Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is taking
it at about fifty six percent. Wow, I'm inclined to agree.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Wow. Oh, I would go with Aaron Rodgers. I'd roll
the dice.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I would I think he's done that Aaron Rodgers is done. Well,
if he's done, then Russ is done.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
They're both done.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's which one's.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Less done, less done, done done. I take Aaron Rodgers.
Russ can get you nine inning.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Gay, I had neither, as.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You could, I'd prefer you didn't. Okay, what would neither be?
They don't have a quarterback? Just yeah, just roll Ben Roethlisberger.
What's the poll question for hour two?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
So we got a couple options. Dan going off the
deflate gate talk. Are you in favor of the rule
against the fighting the football? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't know if I want to go down this
road today.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
We could do an alternative one. Okay, who is the
better QB situation? The Seahawks with Darnold, Raiders with Gen
Smith or Jets with Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, I mean it might be just Sam Donald and
Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We can do just the two.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, because one happened. Because the other one happened.
You know, the Raiders, you know, traded for him. Therefore,
Seattle it opened up the opportunity to get Sam Darnald.
All right, eight seven seven three DP. Show a couple
of basketball highlights. Golden State, Golden State. Here they go
(05:29):
and they have a home stand here. You know, the
Lakers have a brutal stretch. They lost to the Nets, right,
they don't have Lebron and you know, the West is
so tightly compacted there that if you end up losing
like five of your next seven, now all of a sudden,
you're looking at play in territory. But with Golden State,
(05:52):
they're twelve and two since February eighth. They got a
game coming up. They have Seattle, New York, Denver, Milwaukee,
and Toronto, so they have home games here and what
a big advantage. Jimmy Butler has played well and I
like the Jimmy Butler deal in the short term. I
(06:13):
don't want him for more than two years, but it
does give Steph Curry one more shot at maybe competing
for a championship. Because I ended up talking to Mike
Dunleavy Senior at the Super Bowl. And the reason why
I bring this up is his son is the GM
of the Golden State Warriors, and I said, now I
can I can say this, but Mike Senior, I said,
(06:35):
how desperate are they to get somebody at the trade deadline?
And so we started talking about this. Now he didn't
say it's off the record, but you know we've spoken
generalities of.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know, can you get KD? Can you get Jimmy Butler?
Like who fits?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And so he gave me a little bit of information
that I'm sure that he gleaned from conversations with his son,
the former Duke Star. But they got Jimmy Butler. You know,
they were going for KD. And I think Kd's on
another team next season, but they wanted Kevin Durant, and
Durant didn't want to revisit that. I mean, would I
(07:12):
want to go back and play with Draymond after he
made life miserable for me while we're winning titles. No,
you are winning, but it comes at a call like
they won. But it must have been so bad that
he wanted out where you go? I'm tired of listening
to Draymon. Oh okay, Draymon.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Yeah, PAULI, Losing is miserable. Winning with Jerks is tolerable?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Until it's not? Apparently?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because you know, but he won his titles and they
probably said, all right, I've done what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Now it can go have my own team. I mean,
I think that was the flaw.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I get to play with somebody I like in Kyrie
and let's go to Brooklyn and Okay, it didn't work out.
But I don't think he wanted to revisit that. Okay,
got to join Steph to win another title. You just
don't want to go down that road. I don't think
he needs to go down that road. But he's going
to be on another team next season. But Golden State
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is playing. You know, you want to be quiet you
don't want anything stupid, said by Draymond. You just want
to play good basketball, get your bench ready, get ready
for the playoffs, and then there'll be a tough out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But you know, the.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Lakers are in a trickier situation because this is the
stretch and the schedule. Lebron was publicly criticizing the most
brutal stretch and their schedule. You know, the rest of
the season is I think the toughest in the NBA.
I've been talking about this, maybe too much, but I've
been talking about Joker some of the numbers here and
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saying that he's not going to win the MVP, but
he should. And Michael Malone, the Nuggets head coach, had
this to say about the MVP race.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
Obviously, Shay Gilgos Alexander is a great player, and if
he wins his first MVP, you know he's deserving of that.
My thing is this, you know, if you didn't know
that Nicola won three MVPs, and I've put player A
and player B on paper, and you had no idea
that the guy who's averaging a triple double, the guy
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who's top three in the three major statistical categories, things
that no one's ever done. He wins the MVP ten
times out of ten, and if you don't think so,
I think you guys are all fully.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right, Michael, don't call me Mike. I agree with him.
I agree Joker could have four MVPs. He can have five.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
MVPs if you include this year. He's playing at that level.
But you know, he won three and then all of
a sudden, it's we can't let that happen. Lebron James
hasn't on an MVP since twenty twelve. He was twenty
eight years of age. I find that amazing that the
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best player in the game, or at least for during
that period a good portion of the period, never won
an MVP. It's he got to the point where, okay,
he finished second three times, conceivably could have seven MVPs.
Joker could conceivably have five if you're being fair to
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what you see. We get caught up in okay, best
player on the best team. Okay, Well, the best player
on the best team right now is Donovan Mitchell. And
I haven't heard his name at all, but Shay Gilgis
is a incredible score.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But he's not better than Joker. He's not.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You could ask Shay gilgis he probably, in a true moment,
say jokers a better player. Jay Gilger is going to
say I'm a better score but better all around player.
It's not even close. But that's value, how you interpret
it value. I loved voting for these awards. I felt
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like it was a privilege and honor, and I had
to equate what is value. I struggled mightily over Jason
Kidd and Grant Hill for Rookie of the Year. I
changed my vote on the last day, the last hour
that you could send in your bount I went back
and forth. But you got to have the same people
(11:39):
watching the same amount of games understanding what's going on.
There's certain players you have to go out of your
way to watch, you do because some of the other
games are always on right in front of us. Then
we tend to lean towards those players in those teams.
But if Shay wins it and he's going to good,
(11:59):
it's good for the league as well. I think another
young player MVP not in your major market there and
they've done a wonderful job in building that team.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So it's going to be a topic.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was a topic last year when all of a sudden,
Joker was going to win. Kendrick Perkins came on and
all of a sudden had this barnstorming tour to tell
everybody it should be Joe El Embiid that I'm thinking,
Kendrick Perkins, you don't know what you're talking about. And
I still stand by that that Joker was better than
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Joel Embiid. Joe El Embiid, it was his turn, it
was his time. I'm like, that is silly, but he
was a great player. Was He'll never be a great
player again, guess.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Paul Lebron had a five year stretch aged twenty four
to twenty eight. He won four out of five MVPs.
He finished top two for Defensive Player of the Year twice.
He was top five five years in a row. Oh,
he never won another MVP after age twenty eight. He's
finished second place three times, second place to Giannis Harden
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and Durant.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Lance in Vegas, Hi Lance, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (13:14):
Good morning Dan, first time, long time hoping five to
seven and a half, one hundred and fifty seven. Hey,
you were you were talking about Josh Sweat, Yeah, and
names like that, the one that's made me laugh inappropriately
for years. Is Mark Sweeney, the former Kansas City Royal
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Mark Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
We're all twelve, Thank you Lance. Yes, hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Mark Sweeney. Uh brings me back to the name game
when I was in high school and I can't even
tell you some of the names that I grew up with.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I win this.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I win this competition every single time, every single time.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes, paum.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
We were on the road when I first started working
with you back in like Dayton, and the topic came
up and I said, I went to school with a
girl named April Shower. You're like, hold up a second,
I'm going to tell you something, and you went through them.
I was like, I still had that reaction.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When my mom was alive, I would call her.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sometimes it'd be all hours of the night because be
out drinking and people to say, oh I knew somebody,
and I go hold on here, and I'd get my
mom on and I'd make her pronounce the name of
my priest and you would have to look it up
on YouTube. But because she's she told me, you know
a long time before she passed away, to not do
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that to our priest at Saint Susannah and so. But
I would call my mom and say, Mom, what was
the name of our priest? And she'd go, oh, Danny,
and then she we'd give you the name and people
would be like.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You gotta be kidding me. Nope, not kidding.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, we'll get to more phone calls. We're gonna
play the Cooper Flag game coming up. I don't know
what it is, but I'm excited we'll have that. But
coming up next talk some college basketball. Bruce Pearl, Auburn
head coach, will join us. Hope you'll join us after
the break Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (16:32):
DraftKings just sent me the odds to win it all
in March Madness. It's Duke, followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston,
and Alabama. He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers,
his eleventh year there. He's Bruce Pearl. It was six
years ago in Minneapolis. I had you in studio, you
(16:52):
had your team in the final four, and I said
to Paulie, I'm gonna make Bruce Pearl cry that day,
And you did shed a teer a light tier, but
I got you to cry.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Hi Bruce, Hi, Dan? Who are you?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I'm great. I'm not going to try to make you
cry this time.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know, of all your great accomplishments over the course
of your career, I hope my shedding a tier isn't
one of them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It was just a goal to see if I could,
you know, bring out that emotion. Because you're an emotional guy.
You say you cry a lot. I don't know if
you've cried the last two games that you lost. You know,
no offense here the timing of this, but you know,
when's the last time you cried.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Let's see, I probably cried after we'd be Kentucky at
RUP and won the championship. I'd say, I would say probably.
You know, I'm pretty passionate. You talk about fan only
talk about the lord, you know, talk about the blood,
sweat and tears that go into all the things that
it takes to win a championship. In other words, just
(18:08):
like putting up with me and my expectations, my accountability,
my you know, my my temper. I'm grateful, grateful, uh
and blessed and did not cry after we lost to
text A and M and Alabama because we've lost four games.
We've lost to Duke and John Shire at John Shied Duke,
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and we lost to Todd Golden at Florida, and those
that those had been the only two losses we had
had for a long time. And and and so for
a while I could say, like, the only coaches in
the country that I'm willing to lose to are Jewish
coaches John Shired, Todd Golden, Like, if you're not Jewish,
I'm not losing to you. We Jews don't like to
lose very often, in case you haven't noticed with our
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Israel con. And but then Buzz Williams came in ranked
you know, fourteenth in the country, and and then of
course we love to nat oates. And I don't think
either one of those guys you know, got a temple.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh, Princey, would you check and see if they're the
other two coaches or Josh?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, So why'd you cry after you lost or one
at Kentucky at rupp Arena.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, you know, I think just I guess the motion
of it all the the the being being, you know,
really really grateful. Dan. I think what we do as
we work in this this this ministry, or in this
thing about coaching, we are we are we are built
to win and compete for championships. We really truly do.
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And at the end of the day, there was a
championship that could be one I didn't cry at when
we beat when we when we won the Maui Invitational.
You know that that you know, that wasn't that wasn't
big enough. But I think because the league was so
good and it was so hard, and every night you
had to kind of get and and there were a
lot of upsets. My basketball team did not get upset
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very much at all. Uh And in the sense that
they beat a lot of people they were supposed to beat.
And uh, I probably just tried it cried out of gratitude, gratefulness.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Who's the best player in college basketball this year?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, I think jan I Broom is that it should
be the college player of the year because of all
that he's accomplished and and and all that he's able
to do for our team. Leads us and scoring and
rebounding and assists and and and and obviously stepped up
in the biggest games. I think Cooper Flag at Duke
is going to be if he's not the first player drafted,
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is gonna be one of the top player drafted. And
and Cooper is an amazing player who plays so hard
and impacts the game so much. But what Auburn has
done this year through this league to have sixteen Quad
one wins has never been done before. That means on
we we had twenty games against the Corps one. Now,
when you're playing a quad one game, I don't care
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where you're ranked one through thirty five. Let's say we've
got a fifty five sixty percent chance of winning that game,
even if we're one, playing against the team that's twenty
and win sixteen of those out of twenty is just unprecedented.
And so therefore I feel like our best player is
the best player at college basket.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, let's say you're coaching Cooper Flag yep, and you
want him to come back for another year, but you
want him to realize he wants to come back for
another year, not you selfishly as a coach, how would
you go about trying to convince Cooper Flag to stay
one more year?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, first of all, I would I would only try
to convince him to do it if I truly felt
like it was in his best interests, not just in mind.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And have you seen the Washington Wizards roster, Bruce, Yes,
I have.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Here's here's here's the one the one factor that I
would ask to consider him. To consider Dan, you know
that because you've been doing this a long time, it's
not how much you make, it's how long you can
make it. That's the truth. And so the question for
Cooper Flag would be what's the best position for you
to be in for your second and your third contract?
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And if there can be any discussion about the fact
that at eighteen or nineteen, when you are in position
at age twenty one, maybe to have to sign that
second big contract. You know, there's a difference between being
rich and being wealthy. People that are wealthy have made
it for a long time. And so that's the only
thing I would look at as far as what might
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be in his best interest is would waiting another year
put him in a better position to sign that second
and third contract that takes him from being rich to wealthy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He's only eighteen, that's right, crazy, crazy, that would be
the only factor. We're talking to Bruce Pearl, Auburn head coach.
SEC Conference tournament starts on Friday. We've talked about ofvariety
of things the NBA has, you know, face of the NBA.
Could we get the non North America basketball players to
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play against the US based players in the All Star Game?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Like where do you see?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, the globalization of basketball is the future in
Europe and other countries more so than it is in
the United States. If you consider I could probably give
you seven or eight of the top ten players in
the game and they're not from the United States.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, the game. I think the game is in great
shape DWN in the sense that worldwide it's really really popular.
And you're right, some of these international players, European players
are playing the game better than our guys have. One
of the factors has been just a skill level that
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they are brought up through a training program that isn't
like high school, AAU college, so on and so forth.
At the same time, your interest in our game and
the college game has never been better. Like the numbers
that we're pulling for the best. This is a tremendous
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regular season in college basketball, just even just the SEC.
How many ranked teams against ranked teams and then how
many of those games delivered Like the last two Saturdays
in the SEC Alabama Tennessee over time, Auburn Alabama overtime,
and the ratings are really good. I don't know. I
read a little bit about what's going on with the
NBA and what, but I couldn't tell you why. Some
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of those numbers are down, But our numbers have never
been stronger.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But the talent level, I mean, they're young, they're you know,
these guys, I mean jokers, what thirty or somewhere around there.
But if you put in Giannis, you put in Embid
and you put in Luca Shay Gilgis, you know, from Canada,
and maybe we go back to the dream team that
the Dream Team in ninety two sort of you know,
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birth this, they spawned all of this. I'm just curious,
does the does US basketball try to model itself after,
you know, instead of this AAU and we've seen that basketball.
It can be pretty ugly talented but ugly feels like
you know what Europe is doing in other countries is
they get you into a system, learn how to handle
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the ball, learn you know, the fundamental, be a big guy,
handle the ball on the perimeter, like all of these things.
It feels like the US is missing out on that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Well, I think there are people that are in the
professional basketball in world basketball that are studying this very
factor right now. They're absolutely looking at it. You know.
The the best explanation I can have for it is
the age that they have these European kids starting to
train the specialization into you know, the one particular sport.
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They don't have the same you know, rules as far
as how many hours you can or can't train, whether
you're a high school player and you can only practice
a certain amount of time, and in college so on
and so forth. You know. I think the other thing too,
the skill level right now is what is dominating our
sport in the sense that the men are so big
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and they're so strong, and they're so athletic that now
we're putting five guys out there on a perimeterive to
three point line and spreading the floor just so that
we have some space to be able to drive down
the lane and make place because nobody, hardly anybody is
putting a post player on the inside because there's there's
just no room for him. So side. Sometimes in some ways,
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the size and the athleticism of the American player that
may have been a dominating force in basketball is now
no longer as as an important a cog as the
ability to spread the floor and have the skills to
be able to shoot and handle, which is more akin
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to the European player.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Okay, but what would you do with Shack if he
was your center?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Oh, I'd find a way. I have. I am Jani
broom right now, and and and and we're gonna find
ways to get him inside and and and and and
and and and run our offense accordingly. So oh no, no,
you give me Shack. His big ass has got him
on the block, and good luck. The only way you're
gonna stop him is to hackershack him.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Who's the best player you recruited didn't get but the
best player you you recruited?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Wow? Well, you know it's interesting. Aj Devansta was somebody
that the kid, that young man is going to b yu. Uh.
He grew up in Boston and actually grew up in Brockton,
which is really a town outside of where I grew up.
And we got in early on him and and uh,
guy he's got a great family and and he he
was one of the highest rated players I think I've
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ever you know, not not gotten. Uh, Anthony Edwards maybe
in Atlanta would have been another one that that, you know,
that we worked on but didn't get there. There. There's
probably a long list of kids I finished second on,
but those are two probably pretty big names.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Tom Izzo said, Chris Weber made him cry because he
thought he was getting Chris Webber and then you lose
him to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's painful.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Oh yeah, no, no, it's that definitely is I remember
when Tom was an assistant for jud Heathcote and they
were playing the old Jennison Field House, and so I
don't know that Michigan State's program was in position when
Chris Weber was coming out out of Country Day High
School in Detroit to pick Michigan State over Michigan and
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tom Izzo hadn't quite done what he done now.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, but he still had the magic Johnson era.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's great, and that's about I don't want to speak
to Michigan basketball history Michigan State basketball history, but the
perception of Michigan's program at that time was much stronger
than Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
When where were you in your career when Burden Magic
U arrived on the scene in college basketball.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I was just coming out of high school. I was
just starting at Boston College for doctor Tom Davis, starting
to be a manager and work in the industry.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So you're a lifer. You're a lifer, aren't you.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I was at BC in nineteen seventy eight before the
Big East was born. I saw Dave Gavitt get that
thing started. Doctor Tom Davis in the job he did
at Boston College goes way under the radar because of
you know, Louis Carnoseca and John Thompson, really Messamino, you know,
just Jim Beaheim and Yukon and we were at BC
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kind of doing great in those early early years of
the Big East. They almost took Holy Cross. Boston College
had to write a fifty thousand dollars check in the
athletic director Bill Flint at the time wasn't sure that
was going to be a good enough investment. Had to
get a door named Bernie Plansky to write that check.
Otherwise Holy Cross have been in the Big East and
now the CC not Boston College.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Wow, who do you get mistaken for in public.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Uh sometimes uh loop for Rigno, like the incredible, incredible,
the Green Monster that back when I when I was
a little bigger, not anymore. Every now and then Greg
Brady remember Brady Bunch had the affro, A little bit
of that, hey hey, and a really good day thirty
(30:28):
forty years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Tom Jones, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, if women start throwing their underwear at you at
an Auburn game, like you know, Tom Jones in concert,
I'm thinking a little bit of Jeff Garland from curb
your enthusiasm, like Larry David's good buddy like that, like
a smaller verb maybe just the face, uh, and and
your voice you could be you know, Jeff Garland.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
I've gotten a lot, a lot great you know, coaches,
we do agent Doggie.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Years, you know, are you okay?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Coaching seems to be the fun easier part than the
N I L and the recruiting.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah? Coaching because coaching is still you know, teaching and
and and and and developing and and and the gym
and the ball and and uh. Look, I like N
I L. Dan, because we're way overdue. Thank God for
n I L. For you for me and and it
would make this country great. And obviously the numbers that
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these kids are getting right now tells you how late
the n cua A was. Yeah, recognizing the value of
these student athletes. Now, listen, there's no right now. There
there are no rules. There are no regulations. We gotta
find so we gotta we go. If we're gonna have
a national champion Dan, then we truly need to be
playing more by the same rules. They play more by
the same rules in Major League Baseball, in the NFL
(31:53):
and the NBA. Right now that we are on college
and we are trying to figure it out, there needs
to be bipartisans support in Washington, d C. To try
to find a way to bring this great college system
back while we're able to compensate the student athletes, you know,
wait for what they're worth. But there's got to be
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some guardrails. Senator Ted Cruz has got legislation right now.
But you know how Washington d C. Is completely dysfunctional,
and if the Republicans wanted the Democrats vote, we got
to find a way to bring it to be able
to have the intercollagiate system what we do and still
compensate our student athletes, and I think that's the best
way of doing it. Right now, we're just putting band
(32:35):
aids on it and we're all trying to navigate it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Great to talk to you. Congrats on the success. Hopefully
you don't run into a Jewish head coach of the
rest of the season. But thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Always a pleasure, Dan, and thanks for not making me cry.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
All right, this time, that's Bruce Pearl Friday SEC Tournament.
They will get underway, opponent to be determined, We'll take
a break and we'll play the Cooper Flag Game.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Some phone calls as well. Right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 3 (33:15):
Update the poll results. Dylan in for a Seaton this week.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yes, Dan, who now have a letter QB situation the
Raiders with Gina Smith or Seahawks with Sam Donald Buy
a hair. Sam Donald is taking.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So the odds to win March Madness. It's Duke and
then closely followed by Auburn, Florida, Houston and Alabama. Three
of those teams out of the SEC SEC has been
great basketball wire to wire here. Oh, I have some
over unders here. Davante Adams over under touchdowns with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
All start with you six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Eight and a half blue bloopom.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Dk Metcalf over under this according to DraftKings touchdown receptions
in Pittsburgh, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Five and a half, Todd seven and a half blue
bloo bloop over under, Miles Garrett sacks for the Cleveland
Browns Super Bowl contender Cleveland brown m Todd over under
sacks for Miles Garrett this.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Paul thirteen and a half, Marvin fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Dylan eleven, fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, he's going to be angry. He's going to be
angry this year. Ready to go with that. And once again,
I have more information. I can't share it with you,
but I'm giving you sort of vagaries on the periphery
of some of the things that I found out on
Sunday about this deal.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But I do think he wanted to leave.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I think the Cleveland Browns were really steadfast and saying
we're not going to even entertain offers. And from what
I was told, unless it was a herschel Walker like
Hall that the Cowboys got from Minnesota. It wasn't going
to happen. Therefore, Okay, you're not going to trade me.
How are you going to compensate me for playing for
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this team. It's not that he thinks they're going to
be a contender. There's no way you could think that
you're going to be a super Bowl contender. I do
think that he did want to play. He wanted to
go elsewhere. Do I think he was also going to
get a new deal if he went elsewhere. I do
he was going to get paid either way. It just
he's getting paid to play for a worse team.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yes, time, but I thought, once you get the bag,
you may not be quite as motivated. Even though he's
upset that he's stuck with the Cleveland Browns. So where
do you wait the two of those?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Did Patrick Mahomes seem motivated when he got the bank
five hundred million dollar deal? He's a unique show. Hey, O,
Twani seem like he was motivated when he got the bag.
I think it's an unfair, you know, blanket we throw
on over athletes to say you made your money, now
you don't care I mean, those are two of the
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highest profile guys and they care as much as anybody does.
Andy and Rhode Island. And then we're gonna play the
Cooper flag game. Hi, Andy, welcome back. Good morning Dan.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Ask what's going on Marvin and pritzy Dan? Have you
ever thought about never really retiring? And I know that
might be a crazy idea. And the reason I bringing
up there is because I'll sound tigh of that. You know,
I'm having a hard time with it because your show
is a lifestyle to us. We wake up, we tell
the kids to be quiet from nine to twelve because
you know, your words was something that a lot of
(36:57):
people appeal to.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Wait, well, Andy, do you want me to stay on
the air so your kids stay quiet?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
No?
Speaker 12 (37:06):
Absolutely no, No, that's not what I was just saying,
in the sense when you speak, everyone got to be
quiet because you know, you can't miss out on what
Dan is saying. But I was thinking about the idea
of how about using AI to you know, preserve you
broadcast and style, you know, a virtual Dan you know
with us was still with the Dan nets because you know,
(37:27):
I can't lose the.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Ambassador of humor.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Marvin seeing Paulie, like, we need the guys.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
And you know, even if.
Speaker 12 (37:34):
You decide to step away, it's going to be a
hard voice for anyone to feel because who does it
better than you did?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But thank you, Andy, Yeah, thank you. I'll look into AI.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, I'll look into artificial intelligence with my voice, but
I don't know if we can do a hologram. And
you know, I did wonder, okay over the weekend, just
throwing this out there. Did this was brought to my
attention by my wife and she said, are you are
(38:07):
you certain you're going to retire, you know, Christmas Eve
twenty twenty seven. I said yes, And she said, well,
you started your career in Atlanta at CNN. Why don't
you end your career in Atlanta? The Super bowls in
Atlanta that year. And it's the only time I ever
(38:28):
gave pause to this, and it was I I was
speechless when my wife said that, because I did start
my career, my TV career, my sports career in Atlanta.
And she said, what if you ended your career in
Atlanta at the super Bowl? And I said, you know what,
I'll think about Yeah, paul.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I've thought about this before, not because of the Atlanta Angle.
But retiring in the home stretch of the football season
would have felt a little weird for you. For us,
I thought that you would extend it two months. Maybe
not now, but down theroad. You're like, man, it's the
middle of football season. We're about to go to the playoffs,
and we're going to stop.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, but usually by that time of the year, I'm
tired of you guys, yeah, and you're tired of me,
and it's a good time to just take a break.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
And then not come back.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But my wife brought that up to me over the weekend.
We were on a romantic vineyard tour and maybe I
had too much wine and I'm one of the contract What.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, I don't know. That's pretty good. Huh.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Time to play the Cooper Flag Game. I don't know
if we have music to play the Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, that's that's kind.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Of the football theme music, all right, That's what I
had on day. All right, So Paul, let's play the
Cooper Flag game.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Duke Blue Devils freshman true freshman guard or forward has
been named both ACC Player of the Year and Rookie
of the Year. The eighteen year old is the fourth
player in AC history to win both honors in the
same season. A freshman winning Player.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Of the Year. Who who are the other three? Would
you like hints? How many of them played at Duke?
All of them? Yeah, Zion correct? Johnny Dawkins, No, Johnny,
I don't have Johnny Dawkins. Even winning Player of the
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Year Jay Williams, Nope.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Also a sophomore, yes, Marvin Julia okafor jeel okafor is correct?
In okay, I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
One more. Also, a Duchie.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
I loved him going into the draft and said he
should be number one overall. So it's somewhat recent history.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Okay, Oh, no, I thought he was going to be
a star. Marvin Bagley the.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Third Marvin Bagley junior, the two thousand and eight Freshman
of the Year Player of the Year. Here's a couple
of sophomores who won. David Thompson at NC State seventy
two to seventy three. He won the next two, by
the way, as a junior and senior Player of the Year.
Ralph Sampson won it as a sophomore, junior and senior.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
How about oh, I can't do it right now? I
have a trivia question for Cooper Flag about Cooper Flag
that has to do with the draft. But I'm up
against the break. So that's a tease into the next hour. Well,
you don't have to wait that long. I mean, you're
gonna wait maybe seven minutes, and then I'll ask the question,
(41:37):
and you know what, Marvin will probably come up with
the answer.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
You live in the crates Man, you do sure?
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
A final hour in this Tuesday
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