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September 23, 2024 40 mins

Dan wonders if the Minnesota Vikings are for real and determines when we will know for sure. And he asks the tough questions when former Super Bowl winning head coach, Jon Gruden stops by about his current status with the NFL and his interest in coaching again.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody. Hour two. John
Gruden will join us, coming up in about twenty minutes
from now. Talks some football and trying to get back
into the college ranks as a head coach. So we'll
talk to John Gruden. Your phone calls are always welcome,
especially on Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. Once
you saw that you liked, you didn't like. NFL weekend.

(00:20):
The Vikings role, the Rams surprised the Niners. Chiefs still
undefeated in controversial fashion, Ravens hold off the Cowboys. Steelers
and Seahawks are three and zero, and the Eagles get
by the Saints tonight. You got the Jags at the Bills,
Jacksonville getting five and a half, Commanders getting seven and
a half against the Bengals. Our one poll question, Seaton,

(00:42):
and then we'll turn our attention to a new pole question.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, we got up there right now. Let's say worst
college football loss this weekend right now, North Carolina running
away with that one over USC Oklahoma and some other options.
Also worse NFL loss this weekend, Texans Bears, Brown's other
right now the Browns, Browns and Texans are sort of
neck and neck in that one bear's a little further behind.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, you're like fifteen seconds into the game and the
Browns are leading, and then the Giants give the credit
came back. I mean, I don't know if it says
more about the Browns or more about the Giants. There
are two teams that I'm not quite sure how good
they are. I expect the Browns to be better, but
your guess is as good as mine. It's one of

(01:31):
those where you're trying to figure out and I usually
say give it four weeks, give it a month. Now,
we got a pretty good handle. If the Vikings beat
the Packers, are we all in that the Vikings are
a legitimate playoff threat? I think that we would be
because they've got them. They got the Jets, they got
a bye week, they got the Lions. We're gonna know

(01:51):
after two months just how good the Vikings are. And
I know there's trepidation here, but it's only because it's
Sam Darnold. We have the best receiver, You've got a
great offensive minded coach. The defense has been unbelievable so far.
The Vikings had five sacks yesterday, the first team in
over two decades to have at least five sacks in

(02:14):
each of their first three games of the season.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Who stand of a day?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Stant of to day?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Start outa day, stand outa day. This is the stant
of the day.

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(02:53):
supplies last, available at danpatrick dot com. All right, so
the poll question for hour two Seaton, what are we
gonna Payencil in.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Our two We've got in their worst win of the weekend,
the worst win.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I would probably say the Eagles, not even knowing the
list there, only because it feels like even when they win,
nobody's happy with head coach Nick Sirianni. You do beat
the Saints there, and the Saints have been playing great
perception wise, that should be a really good win, but
it still feels like Jalen hurts and Nick Sirianni, this

(03:31):
is this is gonna be a game of tennis, the
entire game the season where he go is it his
fault or his fault? But Sakwon Barkley will join us
on the program tomorrow. Who are the other candidates there? Seaton?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, Eagles were number one, the Ravens coming in at
number two. That's not a great win. By then they
almost backed into another loss there. They seem to have
a trouble holding on to a lead.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Also, Lamar Jackson had an interesting SoundBite. Okays, play this, Yeah,
Marvin played this. Here's Lamar Jackson after the win and all.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
About told me coming out in Lamar that you gathered
the guys.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
You were the final voice coming out.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
For the second half and your one word was finished,
which has been a challenge. What did you learn here
in these last three minutes?

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Man?

Speaker 4 (04:16):
The game not all it's a zero zero.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
To the clock.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know, I don't like how things would to go
out to the air.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, I felt I should have put more points
on the boar.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
We should have just put a gas on the pedal
when we was up twenty eighty six, but oh we
got dumb man he's just gonna.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Recruit all too.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Then is he talking coaches? He's talking players. Sounds like coach.
Sounds like coach. It does feel like that, like we
want to apply more pressure there. It's going to put
the gas on the pedal. Well, I see what that works. Yeah, yeah,
he was on a roll, you know. Yeah, that's all.

(04:49):
I'm not going to interrupt him. I missed it, but yeah,
I thought that they were going to be a little
more stay, a little more aggressive, and then the Cowboys
make it interesting. And I said this first, it's one
thing like a cowboy fan. You go, all right, we're
getting blown out, all right, and then all of a
sudden you come back. And then you come back and
then you think, if you get the ball back, you're

(05:10):
going to tie this and then maybe win this. And
so that added to the frustration, which leads us right
to Shayan Irving, who joins us on the program. Good morning, Check.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Danny.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
I'm not being hyperbolic. That might have been the worst
weekend of my life. I'm serious. I'm serious, Danny. The
roommate has never been mattered in me. I got smoked
on Sunday and then I had to watch that monstrossy
of a game to get boat raised and then come
back kind of and then get shut up into a corner.

(05:44):
Worst weekend of my life, Danny, and I've been to jail.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And rehab a couple times, Dany.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Rehabs actually great for those of you wonder, and the
food's awesome. It's really calm. It's a nice place get
on some good mets. Jill sucks and that was better
than this weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, but is it worse because well, tell me why
it was worse than just a typical Cowboys loss, like
to the Saints.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Danny, this team is soft as charman. I got Dereck
Henry in my nightmares. We could have signed him and
then he went off for one hundred and fifty seven
yards while the rest of the team ran for another
one hundred and twenty. We don't have a drum. They
could have signed a whole lot of people and they didn't.
All in was a complete life. And then on top

(06:37):
of that, I'm pretty sure I lost every bet I
ever placed on Sunday and the roommate ain't even talking
to me. This is a bad time, Danny.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Shouldn't your wife know leave the house with the kids
when the Cowboys are playing, she did.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
That's the problem. The eldest kid tore her knee up
at a soccer game. One of the wine moms sold
me out to the roommate demanded I take her to
a hospital. I said, yeah, no problem, but it was
four o'clock. I had to watch the game, and then.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
I watched back.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Wait, see, you don't take your daughter to the hospital
because you're watching the Cowboys, Danny.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Everybody knows swelling has to go down first before you
see it. Most modern medicine is a lie. Anyway, Danny,
she's five.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well the Cowboys aren't.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
God, I can't even see straight. You have no idea
the pain I'm in, Danny. This is detrimental to my
mental health.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
What is the season over for the Cowboys?

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Now?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Can you just relax and not? Okay? But why do
you so? You shouldn't get upset from now on out
because you're not expecting anything to happen.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Oh yeah, Danny, I should also just be normal and
live my everyday life like a US citizen. But I'm
not that person, Danny. I'm insane. I really thought all
In was gonna happen, and I called this that's my problem, Danny.
I called this in the off season. The roster ain't
better than last year, and then I got sold to
Bill of Goods.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's bad, Uh, Paulie. Do you have good news for Shay?
Of course I do.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
The Cowboys are at the Giants National TV on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What can go wrong?

Speaker 9 (08:13):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (08:14):
We are the Giants, Danny, we are. Look what they
did the Cleveland. Look what we did the Queenan Where
the football giants? Except they got two Super Bowls in
the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Well, now's not the time to try to schedule dinner
with you and your wife. With my wife, I'm guessing
she ain't well.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
It is because she ain't feeding me at the house.
I don't know how the hell they eat well.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I hope your daughter is better. At least surgery can
help repair that. I don't know what's going to help
you with the Cowboys.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
I can't.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
I can't even I don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Danny, Well, keep your head up.

Speaker 9 (08:56):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Imagine his daughter rips up her knee. He's it's four o'clock,
the Cowboys are going to be coming up, and he
tells his wife to go take daughter to the hospital.
Rub some dirt on it, kid, Come on, yes, Paul.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Yeah, if I was just thinking about the Giants playing
against the Cowboys. If you didn't see the Giants play
this year, Let's say you're just out of the country
and you put the New York Giants on. They look
like a pretty decent team this weekend. Daniel Jones a
couple of touchdowns. They ran the ball and I saw
the stat Do you know how many times they hit
Deshaun Watson? They had seventeen quarterback hits on Watson? Didn't

(09:37):
wasn't it Week one? He got hit seventeen times? Yeah,
by the Cowboys. Yeah, so that's thirty four in two games.
And I gotta get the other game. But seventeen hits
on the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Malik Neighbors head eight catches, two touchdowns. He's the first
player in NFL history to have at least twenty receptions
in three touchdowns in his first three career games. So
he's the youngest in NFL history. He's only twenty. You
want this is where I go back to Marvin Harrison Junior,
the third Milik Neighbors Throw them the ball, let them

(10:08):
make something happen. They may not be open make something happen.
I want to get the ball in the hands of
my best player, and Neighbors is awesome. They's special, But
there are these kind of receivers that can help the quarter.
Daniel Jones needs a friend. Melik Neighbors is his friend.
Now you got Thursday Night with the Giants, the new

(10:28):
and improved Giants against the Cowboy. If the Cowboys lose
this game to the Giants on Thursday night, oo, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Molike, Neighbors should have two hundred targets this season.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, what's the most targets in an NFL season? Jack
Cooper Cup have one hundred and seventy five targets that
year he won the Triple Crown. I don't know if
I'm yeah, they keep stats on everything, but I'd be
curious about how many targets is the most in a
Calvin Johnson Maybe?

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, Paul, are we playing the most targeted wide receiver
in a single season ever game?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Because I've got that ready as always?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh you do, I do? When did it happen?

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Well, double checking, double checking, it happened twenty two years ago,
which is shocking. Twenty two years Okay, I'll give you
some other guesses of modern day. Let's say I take
this guy off the board. Most of them are the
past ten years.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
But why are you taking this guy off the board.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
Because we'll we'll get to him, like throw some other
names that you might think because you threw Cooper Cup
the ninth most targeted wide receiver ever in a single
season one and ninety one targets three years ago. Calvin
Johnson Calvin Johnson's second all time two hundred and four
targets in twenty twelve. Okay, again, the hint is it

(11:54):
happened in the two thousand and two season. He had
a very good quarterback.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
He's probably underrated historically because his quarterback gets much more
of the credit.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Larry Fitzgerald, Well, that's a good guess.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
That's a very good guest. And Larry Fitzgerald, I think
it's thirteenth all time.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Did you say Randy Moss?

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Randy Moss had a season with one hundred and eighty
four targets.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
That's that's a shame.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well yeah, okay, Marvin, you got one.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
T o Marvin. You should your name will help. Marvin
Harrison Marvin Harrison two hundred and five targets, in sixteen
games in the two thousand and two seasons.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
All right, Dad of the day, sad of the day,
best of the day, stat of the day.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Here here comes that?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
What stat of the day? All right, Barry and Santa
fe Hi Barry, good morning, Best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
Good morning, fellows, good morning chat Row. Great weekend, nothing bad.
Best of the weekend. Number one, My New York Mets
the hottest team in baseball. Take three out of four
of the Phillies were set up to make the wild card.
Best number two. Uh, didn't get a chance to talk
to you on Friday, but our yours and mine New

(13:24):
York Jets with the win. Say it with me, Dan, Jay, come.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
On, I'm not rooting for anybody. I said they were
going to do it, all right, thank you, Thank you, Barry.
You have j E T s, but they don't do
m E T S Mets, Mets, Mets the way we
do j E T S Jets, Jets, Jets. Sean in Kansas, Hi, Sean,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (13:50):
You guys think you're taking a call?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Quick connection there, Sean, Let me see give me a yeah.
Bad connection. Bob in Montana, Hi, Bob, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 11 (14:02):
Oh, ADP. I don't usually call on Mondays, but I
do have a best worst of the weekend. My worst
is I went down to Texas to help my co workers,
and I came back with a nice case at COVID,
so nice to all the friendly folks down there. The
best is, though, I got to watch the Chiefs win
because I finally got off my butt and I signed
up for Peacock. So for the first time ever, I'm

(14:24):
watching you guys live on TV right now, and I'm
rewarded because I get to see your Northern command up
there in Maine. I'm usually just on the road all
the time, listening on the radio, so it's a real
treat convalescing at home watching you guys on TV right now.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
So well, thank you, Bob. You can download the app
and you can watch us all three hours on Peacock
eight seven seven three DP show. More phone calls coming
up when we take a break. It's been a while
since we've spoken to him. John Gruden will join us
after this.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
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(15:18):
with players, Drew Brees, Derek Carr, coaches, entertainers. John Gruden
back on the program. Good morning, John.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Give me the setup at your house watching football yesterday?
What's it look like?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
What do you say, Dan, It's good to see you.
My setup. I have really come down to my little
FFCA Fired Football Coaches Association headquarters here. It's about a
mile from my house, and I have TVs everywhere, and
I have three or four of my friends and we're
all kind of watching different games, trying to find out
what's going on in pro football because it's very unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, let me ask you about trends. There's always it's
a copycat league. We're seeing a lot of running. Now
is that going to be here for a while or
is it maybe just an aberration.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I don't know what is happening with pass protection, Dan,
but I think that's one of the reasons why you're
seeing so much running. You know, quarterbacks are under siege.
You're seeing a lot of these run pass options where
the quarterback is becoming a ball carrier. That's by design.
A lot of the runs are scrambling by the quarterback.
But I think a lot of these guys have shown

(16:28):
their inactivity during the pre season. I think quality of
play will pick up as we move on.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, we're seeing touchdown passes down dramatically. Yeah, this game
is built on getting touchdown passes scoring points here. And
this is a trend. You know, the last couple of years,
the first three four weeks of the season, touchdown passes
have been down.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, I'm trying to find out who is the best
passing team in football. When I get the films and
I start watching, I always start with the Detroit line
because they're one of the few teams I think that
uses the quarterback like we're accustomed to seeing the quarterback
used he audibles at the line of scrimmage. It's a
pocket passing team. They throw the ball to all five

(17:13):
eligible receivers and they don't waste plays. They're not running
and doing these run pass options, and usually the quarterback
gets protection he can get through a progression and read
a route out. But I do like watching the Lions
and after them, there's only a handful of other teams
that really fire me up like they used to.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
What do you see with Aaron Rodgers so far? Maybe
the first two weeks and then this past performance.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I love it. He's one of the guys that really
excites me. I thought what he did against New England
on the short week was impressive. I thought his debut
against the forty nine ers was very good. He didn't
get very many at bats because the Jets didn't have
the ball much, but just still see the great accuracy.
He dominates in the pre snap with his hands, signs,
he fixes protections, he changed plays. He's still at the

(18:04):
top of the food chain. He's one of the three
or four best clearly in the league right now.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
What would Mahomes have to do to supplant Tom Brady
in your eyes?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Well, I guess you're saying, win seven Super Bowls. You know,
that's the qualification most people have. But I don't think
if you had a lot of quarterback experts in the
same room, I don't think anybody would tell you if
Brady and Mahomes were there, you wouldn't go wrong taking
either one. But some of the things that Mahomes does
with the ball. It's it's incredible. You got to defend

(18:37):
Andy Reid and all other Andy Reid preparation and when
the play breaks down, Mahomes makes the play work anyhow.
So this is this is a double edged sword to
deal with. He's he's the best in my opinion. Because
of that.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
We're talking to John Gruden and his new show John
Gruden loves Football dot Com for more information. How frustrating
is it You're just watching with a bunch of guys
in a room. You're not on the sidelines, and you're
not in the booth.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, that's frustrating, But I'm having it. I'm having a
good time behind the scenes. We've had so many quarterbacks
and players, college players, pro players, high school players. I've
got a chance to visit the Chiefs in training camp,
so I'm still real close to it. But I do
miss the everyday competition and interaction with a team. But

(19:28):
you just keep your fingers crossed. You hope you get
one more chance.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Where does your lawsuit stand with the NFL.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well, I don't know, and I'm I'm not here to
talk about my lawsuit. That's that's in other people's hands.
Right now. I'm just trying to spread my love for football, Dan.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And yeah, but I want to know if you're going
to get back into the game. I mean, this could
help significantly. I would think if you want to get
back into college or you want to get back to
the NFL. So you don't have to answer it. I
have to ask the question. You choose not to answer.
That's that's you. But I'm just trying to figure out
where things stand in the timeline, maybe for coaching.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Again, well, it's in it's in due process. It's not
in my hands, so I can I can sit here
and answer any questions. I don't have anything to answer.
I don't know where it is. It's in it's in
a it's in the court of it's in the court's hands.
So I'm here to just study football and tell you
what I see. That's the best I can do right now.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Who do you think leaked that information?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I'm not going to get into all that. I Uh,
I really don't even want to talk about it. I
have a great opportunity to do some of the things
I want to do right now, and that's what I'm
going to do.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Have you spoken to anybody recently about coaching in college
I have.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
I've talked to a lot of people about coaching. I
always always have and I always will, I assume. But
I'm not going to start any rumors or anything like
that here today.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
But you want to get into the recruiting and all
of that stuff. I mean, college is.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Also exciting about the state of college football. The thing
that excites me is is the change with the transfer
portal and the NIL. It's astonishing how different the game is.
And I've talked to a lot of college coaches that
are friends of mine. It's a frustrating beast to deal with.
And I am learning just like everybody else is. I'm

(21:24):
adapting mentally to what the rules are. It's crazy. It's
an unbelievable change in college football. I don't know if
it's going to help the game or hurt the game,
but it certainly is different.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So you're planning, you're prepping, you're learning to get that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It sounds like that's pretty much what I do. I
just come in here and I mind my own business.
I grind on my football. I collaborate with a lot
of people about football, different levels of football, and if
someone's looking for somebody to coach. I'll be in the bullpen.
We'll see what happens. But I got a great YouTube
channel we're very excited about and I'm putting all my

(22:04):
focus into that right now.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You'd fill the void with Saban not there, Jim Harbaugh
not there. Get another big personality in there. But does
it matter the size of the school if you're going to.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Coach, Nothing really matters. It's just the opportunity, I think,
to get another chance to be on a team. That's
appealingk to me. But I'm on a team right now,
and I want to reiterate that. I know there was
an article written about me wanting to coach. I've always
wanted to coach my whole life, and that's never going
to change. But right now, this opportunity I have in

(22:37):
front of me is very exciting.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You strike me as a guy who yells at the
screens when you're watching football.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Sometimes I get excited, as you know, about little things,
short yardage conversions, if I see a spider or two,
why banana, you'll really tell it. But I do like
seeing the young quarterbacks, the development of these young players.
I'm anxious to see what happens with the Giants. Daniel Jones,
who's a guy I really like coming back off an injury.

(23:05):
Cousin's coming back off an injury. Aaron Rodgers is back.
I'm really interested to see how these guys handle that.
There's so many behind the scenes storylines that I look
at that are probably unique to me. But you're right,
I do get a little emotional at times.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
But you love to break down the film of quarterbacks.
What are you seeing with these like Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
Bo Nick's, Drake May. If they were stocks, which stock
would you buy the most?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Start with? I'd start with Nicks, probably in Denver, just
because I recognize the system. I know the coach. I
know the scheme very well, so I can recognize what
the developmental process is like. And they were just here
in Tampa. I got to see him at close range.
He's a lot bigger guy than I thought. He's very athletic,

(23:58):
and I know what he's doing on a day to
day basis behind the scenes. The other guys are talented,
but they're under siege a little bit. They're getting hit
a lot. They're in a more I don't know, college
operations style offense in Washington, so I see Daniels running around.
He showcases great athleticism and toughness. But to answer your question,

(24:21):
after three weeks, you know, I think bo Nix is
moving on, moving forward a little bit quicker because of
the protection that I saw against the Buccaneers, some of
the concepts that they're doing. But it's still a lot
to be decided. Caleb Williams has just been under siege
too much to really get a true evaluation.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Did you have a policy on starting rookie quarterbacks or
how much you would play them?

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I never had a first round draft choice. We only
drafted a couple guys in the I think fifteen years
that I was a head coach. We were going to
play the best guy. We didn't care who it was,
especially at that position. But I haven't had a lot
of history playing rookies quarterback.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, it felt like everybody was saying it was the
Panthers they were the problem, not Bryce Young, and I
kept saying he played eighteen games and didn't look good.
I can blame the organization, but Bryce Young deserves a
lot of blame as well. Where do you stand on
that whole process there? To bring in Andy Dalton.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Well, the quarterbacks job is to win games, move the
ball and put points on the board. And if you're
not winning, you're not moving the ball and you're not scoring,
something's got to change. They change head coaches, they change coordinators.
The next thing that's going to happen is they're going
to change quarterbacks. And I think sitting down is going
to be a very good thing for Bryce Young. Things
are probably moving around real fast, a lot of pressure

(25:42):
on him, and I think Andy Dalton's success will allow
Andy to play for a few more weeks at least
and give Bryce Young a chance to get a different perspective.
And I do think when he does come back, he'll
be better because of it.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
How often do you wear your Super Bowl ring?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I haven't worn it a lot and a little bit.
But I have an event this weekend. My wife's a
fred Astare ball dancer, ballroom dancer, So I'm gonna go
meet some of the dancers that are coming to Tampa
and I'm gonna wear my ring and do a little
dancing out there, try to impress somebody.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Wait, wait, you're doing ballroom dancing.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah. I had my hip replaced April twenty fourth, so
that's why I kind of started all these side interest things.
But yes, I as a dating flyer like you are, Dan,
I encourage you to get off your butt, get out there,
do some ballroom dancing. It's a it's a really good
it's a really good time.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I have done it, John, I, my wife and I
did it many many years ago. The Cajun two step
ballroom dancing. Yeah, that's awesome. I turned down dancing with
the Stars just to let you know that's outstanding. Yeah. Well,
good luck, good luck in the pursuit of whatever you're
looking for. Good luck with the YouTube channel. It's Gruden

(26:59):
loves Football dot Com. That's the website. So he's breaking
down things he's had. Drew Brees on, Derek Carr has
been on Grudenlovesfootball dot Com. Thank you, John, Hey, thanks Dan,
good luck, thank you. It's a John Gruden won a
Super Bowl head coach of the Buccaneers. It was a
Saints consultant, I believe in the twenty twenty three former

(27:20):
ESPN analyst as well. Yeah, you know, you can never
replace being on the field, whether you're a coach or player.
And John was in the booth and could have been
doing that the rest of his life, and all of
a sudden, the urge was there. He's competitive, you want
to get that chance to coach Raiders. Gave him a
ten year, one hundred million dollar deal, and just to

(27:42):
you know, give you a little bit of background here,
John sued the NFL in November twenty twenty one, arguing
the league quote selectively leaked his private correspondence to The
Wall Street Journal New York Times in order to harm
his reputation force him out of the job. He resigned
his head coach the Raiders after the emails he sent

(28:02):
over the previous decade, and a lot of those were
when he was employed by ESPN, became public. The emails
were uncovered as part of the league's investigation into the
Washington team's alleged toxic workplace culture, which concluded in the
summer of twenty twenty one, included no written report. So
I guess he's kind of in limbo here, waiting to

(28:23):
see if there's something that's going to happen, but doesn't
feel like the NFL is Well, that'll be that's moving
in his favor. And look, I knew that he wasn't
going to answer. I expected him not to answer, but
I still wanted to ask him the question. And you know,
you can tell quickly when somebody says, hey, you know,

(28:45):
can't talk. I'm only here to talk about Yeah, I
get it, but my job is to talk about everything
if I can. So that's why you know we took
a shot with it. They didn't offer up any You
can't ask that question or go there, and I appreciate
it that, but I have to ask the question, whether
he wants to answer it or not. But Gruden lovesfootball

(29:06):
dot Com and perhaps a college team will give him
a chance. We'll take a break. We'll give you our
best and worst of the weekend and more phone calls
as well.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Time to give you our best and worst of the weekend.
By the way, I don't bet. I do host a
gambling podcast. We are sponsored by DraftKings, and I do
caution you don't try to make a living. If you
do it for entertainment purposes, great, but those who think
they can beat the system, it beats you and it
beats you up. I'm watching with somebody who had a

(29:49):
prop bet yesterday the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm watching the
game and my friend has Patrick mahomes rushing total was
nineteen and a half yards, So I'm going okay. First
of all, I said, call Lee, you are a You're sad.

(30:09):
You're betting on Patrick Mahomes over under. So Patrick Mahomes
rushing yards over under nineteen and a half. My guy's
got it. Mahomes has thirty yards, so he's got it.
He's won his prompt bet. Mahomes take three knees to
end the game minus five, minus four, minus four. He

(30:32):
finished with seventeen rushing yards. Yeah. Stat of the day
brought to you by Benini America. Yes, both.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
What's most weird about that? When most quarterbacks take a knee,
it's minus one or maybe minus two. But a couple
of years ago, Mahomes got hit on one of those
kneel downs when he had a bad knee, and so
he takes like three star waits and then knees it down,
so he lost a ton of guards.

Speaker 11 (31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, but you're watching, you know, my friend he buys
me a beer. He's like, hey, got it. I go
all right, and then all of a sudden, Mahomes takes
a knee and he goes, wait a minute, he starts
doing the math in his head, and he goes and
then he took the last knee. He goes, we just lost.
I said I got the beer. I got the beer.
All right, Let's go around the room here, uh todd

(31:26):
Best and Worst of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Best of the Weekend.

Speaker 12 (31:28):
After trailing twenty four to ten, Colorado wins in dramatic fashion.
It falls in field sat against Baylor Hail Mary in
the final play to force ot. A Baylor fumble just
short of the goal line would have been double overtime,
but they steal the win in overtime.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Worst Kent State Football.

Speaker 12 (31:42):
After losing to Penn State and Happy Valley fifty six
nothing Saturday, the Golden Flashes fall to zero to four.
They've been outscored so far this season two hundred and
five to forty one, including a seventy one nothing lost
last week for the Balls.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, but they probably got some nice paychecks there. I
know it's sacrificial lamb time and these schools need this money.
I just worry about the kids who are playing now
they don't reap the benefits down the road when you're
making this money. Seat O'Connor. Best and worst, My best
of the weekend, Joan Jennings. Are the forty nine ers
talk about making the most of your opportunities. Man, dude

(32:18):
had what three touchdowns, three touchdowns, one hundred and seventy
five yards. I think that's a hell of a way
to step up, dude. That was awesome. My worst of
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Was the referees in the Dallas game, sort of that
one drive.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Dallas got a lot of help towards the end of that.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And then it's the non call at the end of
the Chiefs game.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
That was just brutal.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, and you know you're watching and then sometimes you'll
get this. If it was reversed and Mahomes was trying
to get that touchdown or get that PI call, would
he have gotten it. I hate to say he would have,
but I believe that. Marvin Best and worst to the weekend,
all right.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Best of the weekend Jonathan Taylor. He is back for
the Colts. Twenty three carries, one hundred and ten yards,
two touchdowns. Is the Colts beat the Bears. Worst of
the Weekend America's team Northern Illinois. They lost the.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Buffalo oh Oh oh oh.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
In their first game since beating Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Wait, that's the first game they've had since they met.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
They had a bye week. When coach was on with us,
he said they had a bye week in Buffalow.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
They lost best and worst. Pauli.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, nor then needed to run the table.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
That's terrible.

Speaker 8 (33:36):
Go back to Friday Night, the fighting Aloni football. They
don't get a lot of national pub They won thirty
one to twenty four at Nebraska and overtime.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
That was a good one.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
And then somehow Vandy football lost twice on Saturday. They
actually put up a good fight. They lost thirty to
twenty seven in overtime versus Missou. But then Nick Saban
said this earlier in the day about playing on the road.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
In the SEC.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Quote, the only place you play in the SEC, and
it's not hard to play as Vanderbilt. When you play
at Vanderbilt, you have more fans there than they have.
That's no disrespect to them, that's just the truth. Okay,
no offense.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Dang Luke and Charlotte, Hi Luke, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (34:17):
Hey, guys, I got a best and best of the weekend.
Nothing bad happened to me, thankfully. At my Steelers looking
almost I would say, as good as they've looked since
Big Ben left. So it's nice seeing Justin Field is
doing well and I don't think you can give the
job back to Rust, to be honest.

Speaker 10 (34:35):
Second best is watching all my Oregon Ducks have good weeks.
Bo Nicks getting the win and Bucky Irving looking like
RB one in that game against Denver and Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, congratulations, n that was a big surprise that Denver
wins on the road in Tampa. Steelers first team to
start out three to zero and allow ten points or
less and fewer than three hundred yards in all three
games since the two two thousand and four Seahawks. Stead
of the days? Okay, that best stat of the day?

(35:07):
Stead of the day? Here comes that what what of
the day? Brought to you by Panini America, the official
trading cards of the program. Let's say the Steelers are
happy with Justin Fields. Let's say the Dolphins are not
satisfied with the backup quarterbacks with two a tongue of byloa,

(35:30):
could you see Russell Wilson playing for the Dolphins.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah, and you mean in the next four weeks correct, Yes, Yes,
he costs you almost nothing for the Dolphins beyond whatever
draft pick there is. I think he makes less than
two million dollars to the team he plays for this season.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, zero cost almost Okay? Could you see that happening
that they're satisfied with Justin Fields still waiting for us
has to be medically cleared, and we don't know what's
going to happen with Tua. But could you see like
they didn't really think about this. If you think this out, Okay,

(36:11):
I wouldn't have signed Tua to the long term contract.
Said that on the show. I can't hold my breath
every time he goes back to pass. But if you
do sign him, you got to make sure you say
to Tua, you're going to take less money, so we
have insurance for your backup. We have to make sure
we have somebody in case something happens that we will

(36:32):
have somebody who can step in and run this offense
similarly to the way you do. Russ might be that guy.
Throw that out there, just a hypothetical. Corey and Michigan. Hey, Corey,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 14 (36:49):
I think it's taking a call best and worse of
the weekend. Worst fantasy team started one and two. You know,
the number one pick McCaffrey on the bench stinks.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Good thing.

Speaker 14 (37:00):
The Steelers defense is causing more issues than football wedding
weekends and football weekend wedding surrey best though, Michigan's offense
rushing offense causing Southern Calada mullings over their defensive plan.
Lions not only winning but two weeks now under three
hundred yards allowed of offense. Really did five of those

(37:20):
last year, so that's an improvement. Then the Big One
Tigers went in two at three to finish with a
winning record first time since twenty sixteen and in the
last playoff spot, so definitely great. There also argument of
hinch right being the manage of the year, possibly based
on that turnaround.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, yeah, quite a turnaround for him personally after what
happened with the Astros. Griffin and Cincinnati. Hey Griff, what's
on your mind?

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Thanks for the call back? Dan, I got a question
for you. But I'm going to the Bengals game tonight.
I'm excited for it. But who days we're gonna win
by at least fifteen points. In Jamar Chase, we'll have
close to one hundred and fifty yards receiving and two touchdowns.

Speaker 14 (38:03):
Mark that down.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Dan, You're obviously a great interviewer, and when I had
my job in radio, I pretty much learned how to
conduct interviews over the phone just by watching and listening
to the show. I'm curious how you developed your interview
style and specifically when you kind of rope adope some guys.
I mean, you know, with interviewing John Gruden. You know,
you open it up with some good questions and you're curious,
but then you have to turn on and put on

(38:26):
the journalistic hat and you ask him something serious. Maybe
they're not expecting it. I'm just curious about the development
of your interview style and kind of how that came
about to you. Dan, have a good day.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, thank you, Griff. We actually had a seminar at
the Mothership many many years ago. I had read an
article about this gentleman who lived in Canada and he
was kind of the master of the interview, and I
convinced management to bring John Swatsky into ESPN and everybody
had to take a five day, eight hour seminar on

(38:57):
interviewing and what I thought good interviewing, who I thought
were good interviewers. I was completely wrong. And I think
what happens in this business. If anybody's interested in this,
we're really If you interview people for a job, you
should be interested in this, and that is you ask
a question, you want them to talk. The more they talk,

(39:19):
the more you will get information out of them. Take
your ego out of this. And a lot of people
in my business, including myself, you kind of want to
tell people that you know what you're talking about while
you're asking somebody a question. There's nothing wrong with who, why, where?

Speaker 7 (39:35):
When?

Speaker 11 (39:35):
How?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And I knew John was not going to jump in
and start talking about his lawsuit. But he does have
a website, he does have a YouTube channel. I wanted
to give him, you know, the proper respect that I
would talk about that. But there is still the elephant
in the room about if you want to get back
into coaching. I think we got to, you know, find
out where the lawsuit stands. Do you want to go

(39:58):
back into coaching? Have you heard from people whether he
wants to interview or answer those questions in the interview,
that's up to him. And that's when I have to
tell him. When he's like, ah, you know, I'm not
here to talk about that, and I go, you don't
have to answer the question, but I have to answer.
I have to ask the question. I mean, that's how
it works here. And you could see where he didn't

(40:18):
want to but still ask the tough question, but also
ask a brief question and get out of the way
and let somebody talk. Who knows what you'll get. When
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