August 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Doug Gottlieb & Dan Beyer discuss the disaster that the WNBA season has been before diving into the reason behind Beyer's take that Shedeur Sanders' first pre-season game showed everyone why he dropped so far in the NFL draft. Doug and Dan welcome FSR teammate and former Oregon Ducks/NFL Lineman Geoff Schwartz to the show to discuss the headlines around college football. Plus, Dan takes Doug and the crew through a trivia game about Hard Knocks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Doot with Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, Chris Proffet. I'm Doug Gottlieb,
the Doug Gottlieb Show crew, sitting in for Dan and
the Dan Nuts here as we get ready for football season.
While we continue to ride out the wave of the
Brewers winning streak. Uh, the Angels winning streak. Huh, you
(00:36):
can put a halo on that one as the angel
sweep the Dodgers. I'm sure there's other stuff going on
in sports, and we're gonna get to this Shador Sanders
topic in one second. I do think that there's this
is a real thing, Dan, I think this year has
been a abject disaster for the w NBA from this standpoint. Well,
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you can be the most ardent WNBA. I can't stand
the women and how they treat Caitlyn Clark, or how
the level of play or the promotion of it, or
putting them on ads instead of NBA players or whatever.
There's plenty of guys out there that feel that way, right,
But their main attraction is Caitlyn Clark. She has not
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played during the meat of summer, and by the time
she comes back and plays, football is being played and
zero people care about the WNBA. Now there's and there
was a there's a growing following. And I'm just telling you,
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like that last summer, not putting her on the Olympic
team was messy. It probably helped her personally as she
it was just too much of a whirlwind and she
got kind of got her stuff together for the playoff run,
but it did not promote the sport. And then the
one woman that drives ratings to the sport isn't playing
all summer and she'll come back and play. By the
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time she comes back, some plays, it's the end of August,
We're onto football. College football starts in with two weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, Like you want to talk about missing a window, Right's.
I was thinking about that last time. I was like, Hey,
what's missing? Why has there been zero to talk about
for like three weeks outside of Chador or whatever. And
I know it's usually this way, but I'd landed on Hey,
(02:31):
last summer we were talking about Olympics, WNBA Caitlin Clark,
and she's very much still alive, still playing basketball, but
injured right now during the one time of year and
nothing else is going on that anybody wants talk about it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And here's the scary thing. College football is a week
from Saturday away because of week zero, the full schedule
obviously coming up with August twenty eighth, two weeks from today,
and then obviously on Saturday, August thirtieth, we get a
full slate of games. But Doug, to your point point
about the WNBA, I don't think any storyline was able
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to grow. And I thought maybe we were gonna get that.
I thought we were maybe going to get more players
receptive to Caitlin Clark. We saw Sophie Cunningham make a
name for herself, and she made quite a name for
herself in sticking up for her. But I thought something
was interesting when the Connecticut Sun played the Fever and
they moved a game to Boston, and this was after
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the little melee that they had earlier in the season,
and I'm like, this could be good for the WNBA
to get Connecticut Sun fans, maybe to be a rival
of the Indiana Fever that did not happen. There was
no ability to make a rivalry with Page Beckers and
the Dallas team because Caitlin Clark hasn't been available. Nothing
was able to progress this year, and if anything, maybe
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it took a step back because we see that it
is so Caitlin Clark driven.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Don't you think that the contrast has been offered up though?
Because Doug's point that it's been a disaster for the WNBA,
can you make a case that it's been a net
positive for Caitlin Clark and that she proved in her
absence how valuable she is to an entity. This coming
off of her declining to do that stupid three on
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three league, coming off of get A not being included
on the Olympic team. This whole Sophie Cunningham storyline is
all about her protecting Kitlin Clark. That's her brand. She's
gotten the podcast, she's gotten the ad time because of
protecting Kitlin Clark. So maybe a disaster for the w
the other part to it, but net positive for Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There's another part to the Sophie Cunningham right. She's an
attractive woman that plays basketball right, and she's flirty with
with how she looks at the camera.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So I mean, I think, but yes.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Being white and straight too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All those things, all those things were, all those things were.
But I think most of it is that the part
is the connection. She's she's, you want to, riding the
way of Caitlyn Clark, or she's catching some of that
whitewash of Caitlin Clark along with you know, being attractive
and you know, being completely different from what our images
of WNBA players was for the past twenty five years,
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which has allowed us to hyper focus on a fifth
round pick at quarterback. Right, it's like we just we
have to pay attention to something. And I even think
like the Micah Parsons thing, because because the Cowboys thing
happens every single year, right, every single year, it's like, hey,
who can wecorate some sort of salary drama. We know
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Jerry's ultimately gonna pay him. Let's ask for an obscene
amount of money. Maybe it's not the time, maybe it's
not the place. And then Mike Parson's really good. Cowboys
aren't but they're not terrible. You're gonna pay him. He's
doing a hold in. He's really under contract for three
more years without negotiation if they want to, so it's
gonna get done. It was kind of agreed to. Then
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the agent was like, Yo, anyway, I think people are
completely over talking about the Cowboys, Like, let me know
when the Cowboys lose late in the season and fall
out of the playoffs so I can make fun of them,
or let me know if they get to the playoffs
and lose early so I can make fun of them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I've seen this movie. I know how it ends.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So instead we're hyper focusing on Shador standers, which brings
us to Dan Byer your thought on Shador.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, So earlier in the week, Doug, I just made
the point that with the music playing in week one
of a preseason game where he hadn't gotten a lot
of snaps with film crew following him around, that those
were the things that I didn't think NFL teams wanted
to deal with or felt that there was a lot
of extra with Shador, and which was one of the
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reasons why he fell in the NFL draft, And for
as great as he played on that Friday night against Carolina,
it was everything that was extra about it that was
the reason or that I felt that he fell in
the draft. And none of that had changed, so there
wasn't an opportunity for Shador Sanders to maybe do things
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a bit different. The reason why he fell to the
fifth round, I felt was because of everything that was
extra with him that teams didn't want to deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, I actually I'll draw a comp to what
we went through last year. You know, you get the
job late and we're on what's called APR probation APR probation,
So APR probation, we can only practice five instead of
six days a week, and those four hours of practice
time that we lost have to be mandatory study hall
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for your team, right, And it's not because of my team.
It's like two years previous team was an academic disaster. Anyway,
The point was that when we every player we took,
we had to take with the mindset of, okay, what
happens if he flunks out. We can't have a guy
flunk out because you have a certain number of points.
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You know, everybody has to be eligible, and then if
they leave, they have to go find a school. Has
to be a four year school. There's all these rules
with they have to get a certain GPA in order
to transfer to a four year school to a junior college,
they're a freshman to another school. They got to get
a you know, a two point five, otherwise they hurt
you academically. So we had to evaluate who we take
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based upon how hard they were.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
To get rid of.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That makes sense, yes, And I think that was a
real thing for Shadre Sanders, which was, you know, he
clearly blew off a bunch of these meetings and was
disengaged and frankly rude. Everybody says it. I've heard from
real NFL people that it was in many ways worse
just because this was their way of I don't want
to be drafted by that team. And you know, coaches
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everyone talks to everyone in the industry, they just do.
So then word got out that shador Sanders was a
complete jerk in these meetings, and then start to factor in, Okay,
well I might like him, but Dion's gonna want my
job because he wants to coach his kid. And oh yeah,
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by the way, you're gonna have a film crew, you're
gonna have his boys. You have a kid that comes
from a kid that comes from money. So there's the perception,
whether it's real or not, that he's arrogant that he's entitled.
Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a
guy who's not a first round draft pick. You know,
and then you have to factor in your mind, Okay,
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what happens if we cut him? Because that's a big
reason Kaepernick. There's lots of reasons Kaepernick was never back
in the NFL. Okay, he didn't want to be a backup,
and he was at the point in his career where
he had to be a backup and then potentially earn
it or get a little luck. Guy gets hurt and
then you get an opportunity. But it was the big
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part was and I talked to a GM I remember
at the time, said it's not that if I bring
him in, it'll be great, It'll be well received. He's
a talented guy. He's probably a backup stage in his career.
You know, he's not great at reading a defense. Remember
he can only scramble out to his right. There's a
lot of things that but it was what happens if
I cut him? If I cut him, I get me
called a racist. I gotta lose half my locker room.
(10:13):
What happens for Shador Sanders if we cut him. You
know what what happens?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
How are we received? Do we do?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We look like clowns for taking this guy on? So
I yeah, I do see that. I I completely agreed
with your take, which is the the play.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
On the fuel was fine. It was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I still don't know how good an army has, right,
it's still against but whatever, Like, let's not diminish.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sure, I agree, But it's the you show up and
you're a fifth round pick, and you're fourth in the
depth chart, and you got a dude bring in music,
hold another guy holding your bag, get like, what what
are we doing? That's not how quarterback is played in
the NFL. Quarterback it's very much like a political position
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where you got to rally everybody behind you and you
got it the same reason that politicians they go and
do they go to these like diners or they go
get ice cream, and they always you know what they
always wear. They always wear a blue buttonoun dress shirt.
They don't wear a tie, and they roll up their sleeves.
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Right now, all these guys are ridiculously rich. Trump's the
only one to be like, I'm rich, I'm wearing my stuff,
I'm wearing the same suit every day. Like I don't
even know if he has like any you know, anything
else to wear, but all these other politicians they do
because that's the job. You're supposed to look like the everyman. Right,
I'm just roll up my sleeves, no tie, Right, I'm
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one of you. Like what But that's where And there's
definitely a section of fans that think that this is
about things that it's not about. That's just hey, hey,
it's a young black man trying to trying to, you know,
push the envelope what's acceptable, Like, well, there's the young
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black man was drafted number one overall quarterback this year, Like,
what do we do? It's happened ten times. It's not
about that. It's about the appearance of being humble, not entitled,
and motivated to prove everybody wrong. Right, And that part
he's obviously motivated to prove everybody wrong, but it's the
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delivery still feels like he doesn't actually get it, and
Bill hasn't actually.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Got it, and it feels like that he wants to
do it on his own terms. And the point that
I will stand by and I don't take anything back
for what I said was it's also a little bit
of an indictment on the NFL. But again, the NFL
and these teams are in charge. So when you're applying
for a job or going for a job, you want
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to be able to show your worth and fit in.
And I just found it surprising. Instead of carrying a
veteran's stuffel bag into the locker room like a rookie
normally would that, another teammate of his was playing Shador's
own song in week one of a preseason game, and
I just I it was surprising to me, and it
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felt like it was a lot and at that point,
like if it was week one of a regular season
game where he had won the job, maybe there's something
to that. Maybe at that point you can do it.
But I just felt, in week one of a preseason game,
do you need your own soundtrack walking into the stadium?
And I just didn't think so. I thought the Tony
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Grossi interview that was recorded, which Tony ended up approaching Shador,
but Tony didn't know that they were recording. That's another
aspect of it. It's not that the NFL is Scott
free and it's all blamed on Shador, but that's where
you would think a lot of the responses came from
that Shador is the victim and in all of this
and what's happening in Cleveland because he was the one
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that was taken in the fifth round, that he's the
one that's not getting the first team reps. Like that's sports,
that's that's that's what you gotta deal with. This is
no different than other quarterbacks. So to put paint Chadors
a victim here, which I don't think Schador is trying
to do, I think it's I think it's the fan
base of Chador that's trying to do that. I just
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I don't agree with that at all.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, it it definitely it's given us something to get
us through kind of this preseason. We're talking about the
Browns and their current fourth string quarterback. It has distracted
us from talking about Deshaun Watson, who's still like working out.
You know, they changed his contracts. I think they got
him for a couple more years. Like that's gonna be
weird when he we have. He mentioned like he's gonna
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come back at some point and want to play football.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It's it's gonna be fascinating.
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It's America's team in college football, American's team in college football.
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I think that's it's a it's an interesting one. Like, uh,
Notre Dame has been has always been the Dallas Cowboys
for really the last thirty years. Much like the Cowboys,
it's been he's been more than a minute since they've won.
Unlike the Cowboys have actually gotten to deep deep into
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the playoffs. Right, But for most of my life, even
when I went to Notre Dame for a year, when
Notre Dame loses half the half, the college football world rejoices.
And I don't know if that hasn't sort of died
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down because they haven't been at the SEC level. They
haven't been Alabama they have where now it feels like
it's the people take joy in the SEC not winning
a national championship. I'm just wondering Dan your thoughts on
whether or not Notre Dame can kind of reclaim their
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throne as America's team, but not because they're great, but
because now they're seen as a bit of an underdog
correct does things the right way.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I think it's absolutely and I think if you look
at the National Championship game that we just had in January.
Notre Dame comes in as the underdog to Ohio State.
In Ohio State is the brand, and I know that
there will be Notre Dame people who fight against that,
but in talking about this world of college football, Ohio
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State represents like Alabama now the big boys in the
bullies and Doug on a larger scale, I think the
big ten in the SEC, with how we're going to
shape college football and how we see the future changing,
are also thought as the bullies in the big Boys.
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So Notre Dame is now in a spot where Marcus
Freeman seems to be loved by everyone, young, energetic head coach.
They're no longer the top brand, as you say the
Dallas Cowboys of college football. These other teams are thought
of as the villain. And really there is no other
school that can grab that label as national team or
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America's team in college football because it is so regional
and it's so local that I think it's there again
for the taking for Notre Dame, just in a different
way that you laid out.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know, could Clemson be no, No, nope? Why
because in the South, Yeah, and they're not in the SEC.
They're not in the Big ten. They're trying to do
it with keeping everybody in the house, not go to
the portal. You know, Yes, Christophett, I.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Think there is something to Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Like we were just talking the break, their decision always
to play in states where they can get recruits, where
they've maintained this kind of like you know, Globe Trotter
Nation Trotter brand. And also there's no other way around it,
like they're the they're the football team that's Catholic and
that's always going to carry I think some some power,
even though like I.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Don't I don't know if it don't. I don't know
if it does. I don't know if it does anymore. Right,
in the eighties and nineties, the high school programs were
the Catholic programs in the in the Midwest, right, but
now you see obviously the migration of Americans to the
South and for example in Texas and Oklahoma, these unbelievable
football programs. High school programs are public schools. They are
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there still a private school presence. Yeah, you know, modern
day in southern California and some and Jay Sarah and
some of the other one Santa Margarita. Obviously, the in
the the Orange County Private School League has always been
a well spring for quarterback and an elite talent. But
I don't know if that's the case anymore. Let's let's ask.
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(19:50):
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at Oregon, former NFL lineman, and he joins us now
on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Who's
America's team in college football?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Your opinion?
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Good question. America's team in college football? Does just mean
like the team that someone roots for, the most popular team.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I don't know. I just you take You're allowed to
take it however you want to take it.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
My first thought was Notre Dame. I think that there
are more people that probably root for Notre Dame that
like have no affiliation to anything else, If that makes sense,
I think that's probably the team. There are people that
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root for them just because of their religion. I mean,
there are people that root for them because their dad
rooted for them. I mean, there's obviously popular teams depending
on if they're winning or not. I mean Georgia and
Texas and your popular teams the South are very popular.
But like nationally, I don't think it's USC. It's not Ball, Oregon,
boun Washington. I mean Texas has a bunch of haters
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as well. I probably, I would say Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And I think that we grew up in a time
all of us here where Notre Dame was with Lou Holtz,
the good team and the villain at that point. My point, Jeff,
is why I like Notre Dame is now. I think
that they're actually liked because the villains seem to be
the big ten in the SEC and even the top
schools in those leagues. So now you have a coach
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and Marcus Freeman that everybody likes. I was just telling
Doug that in the National Championship game, they're the underdog,
and I feel more people were rooting against Ohio State
and for Notre Dame than than we have ever had before.
And I feel that's why the tables have shifted where
Notre Dame is now in a well liked spot as
opposed to when we were growing up. They seem to
be this elitist that we couldn't like.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
That's certainly fair. I think that the elite thing is
sort of gone because everyone is now elite. I mean,
you're the money these kids are making now, and the
NIL has turned I mean tech attack. I mean, look
what they're doing right, Like they're almost they're not even
they're not even joking about it the other day where
they just put out the oil derec like, yep, it's
how we're paying for everybody. It's just it's this oil money.
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So no one feels elite anymore. I think not one
team does, because that's not the way college football is anymore. Right,
it feels there's there's not more parody, but there sort
of feels like there is. I mean, the same teams
every year at the top of the league, and the
same teams can win every year. But it does feel
like the middle has been has risen a bunch with
NIL and there is everyone feels more elite.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
To put it like that, How about your your boys
organ What are your thoughts on what they what they're
gonna play, how they're gonna look this year.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Yeah, I'm excited to see us. You know, we have
a lot of new pieces. But I think this is where,
you know, the returning production discussion is interesting because you
Organs have a ton of returning production. But then they added,
you know too, offensive lineman that that could be first
round picks, add a safety that might be a first
round pick. They added a quarterback and a five star
and Dante Moors, you know, stat behind Viillan Gabriel last season,
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there are some question marks. I think we have youth
at defensive tackle, wide receiver, trying to find a couple
of guys that will be the standouts. But I think
when you look at Douay, Dan Lennon has both the
program year one nine and three year two ten and
two year three, twelve and oh and then even you
know even the postseason, right, you win a bowl game
your first year, next year you go to taxle championship game.
The next year you go to the playoffs. So you
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lose the first game of the playoff obviously, So the
progression I really like. I think it's important to note,
and this is something that I talk about a lot
of comes college football, is this is his first job
as a head coach. He's thirty nine years old, maybe
thirty eight and you know, it takes time to win.
Herbie Smart one in year six, Ryan Day one in
year six. You know these other coaches that have gone
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places in one in media, like Urban one in the
year two. At four, he was already a head coach
at Utah and Bowling Greed. He had to experience it
being a head coach. Now you're thrust in at this age.
It takes time. We saw it very clearly with Ryan
Date right even last year is ups and downs of
a single season. It takes time. I think we're on
the right track at Oregon right now. I was expect
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us to have a really good season. Again. I don't
know if we win a championship. I think a lot
of things have to come together for that to happen.
But I'm excited about the sort of the path we're on.
Our conference schedule sets up really well. We should win no,
you know, no, no less than ten games, and it'd
be tough to go in to see let's go to
Penn State. That's a pretty tough game. The white Out
game Week five, they're off of buy We're not. I
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got to go across the country. I mean, there's things
that will be tough to win that game. So I
think the ten eleven wins is probably where we're at.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Let's stay in the big ten because you mentioned James
Franklin and Penn State, like, like, is it national championship
or bust for the Nittany Lions this year? What does
James Franklin have to do to be able to get
some breathing room and get this monkey off of his
back of not being a big game head coach.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, they win a championship. It's that simple. That that
I think is where you're at. Where you know right now,
you know it's twenty you know, people say they're they're
unreliable and argue that that they're actually very reliable. We
know that what they're gonna do, they're gonna be everyone
they should, which is what James Fakin has done now
for seven years. There's no upsets, you never get upset.
He wins the games you should and unfortunately he loses
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obviously games he should as well. And that's where there
has to be that that change. But that's what one
or two games a year, that's it, right. I mean
he's a favorite in this team. Look at this Custer
right now, They're gonna be a multiple touchdown favorite in
every game, but two right, there'll be a small favorite.
Its organ at home, I think it's four or five points.
There'll be a four point four or five point dot
at Ohio State. You split those, you're eleven and one.
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You go back to Indianapolis. You know you're a playoffs team.
So they're They're success will be judged totally on what
happens in the postseason. James Franklin just hasn't. He hasn't
won that game yet. He just hasn't. And until it happens,
I'm not betting against them, but I'm not betting on
them either. I just they have to win that game
against It's one game a year, maybe two. That's it.
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That's all we're judging Penn State on, which may be unfair,
but that's what college sports and college leble the high
level can be.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Why don't they win those games?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Good question. I think one of the things you have
to do in those games is offensively, you have to
be able to hit explosive plays. And why I say
that is it's really hard at college football for college
athletes eighteen to twenty teen years old to have ten
twelve play offensive drives without a cast off and mistake,
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and the sooner you can score, the sooner you can
get off the field, as sooner you put points on board,
the sooner that you press the other team. And for
the most part they did in the Big Ten championship game.
The problem is Oregan was able to match. But against
these Ohio States, the Michigans, you know that they can't beat.
It just takes too long to score. And if they
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can find that in their offense. Now they went and
got three new portal wide receivers and they have the
quarterback obviously to make that happen. So that's I think
where the biggest need just excell to and Os wasn't
you know, strategy. There seems to be an error or
two in clock management and game decisions in these big moments.
And you think, you know, Franklins, you're fifteen. You hope
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that you would figure those things out. But those combinations
of both those two things really hurt them in the
big moments. And again it's just a couple of moments
a year, man, that's it. That's all, that's all it is.
You know, they'll blow everyone else out, they'll win all
the games they should, but in those couple of moments too.
There was was it last year? Right? They the play
calling on the goal line was pretty bad. Years back,
they ran a terrible fourth down inside zone like everyone
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knew was coming. Like those moments, they just don't win
those moments.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, they had an opportunity to to Betoha State. You're
right there on the goal line, and then they can't
punch it in and Ohio State runs the clock out
for the final five minutes. Not to make this all
about Penn State, but obviously with Drew Aller coming back,
with all of these other pieces coming back, is there
added pressure? Like, is there a way that this backfires
against them? Because in a way, I think for a
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little while for Ohio State last year, it did. Do
you think that could happen with Penn State this year?
Speaker 8 (28:07):
They don't think so. And I'll tell you why. You know,
I was at Big tim Media Day. I was covering it,
so we talked to every coach, every player there, and
you know, James Franklin acknowledged the pressure that comes with
this season. I like that. I liked hearing that the
players talked about the pressure that comes with this season.
So they're acknowledging it up front now can it cripple you, Absolutely,
But I think the first step is acknowledging, like, yes,
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this is where expectations are and this is what we
want to do this season. I think a lot of
times you hide from that, and then the pressure mounts
and you haven't really talked about it as a team
and really done the preparation mentally to handle those type
of questions they're asked every week, and that type of pressure,
it really kind of seats up on you, and that's
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when teams fall apart. So I like the fact that
they've acknowledged that this is what our past needs to be,
this is what our goal is, here's how we get there.
And so I don't think they'll crumble. I mean last
year they didn't. They didn't rely crumble. Last ye bet
Ohia State. They haven't been Ohio State in ten years.
Last season they won two playoff games. Again, the two
playoff games they should have won. Right, it's a game
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once a year that matters the most. They haven't been
able to win that game.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Jeff Schwartz joining us. You can hear him on Sunday
mornings here on Fox Sports Radio Countdown to kick Off.
Of course, he's both a college and NFL analysts, as
well as a talented radio host. He joins us here
on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Feels
like a huge year for the SEC, right because the
last twenty five years been dominated by the SEC. They
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got got it more money than God. They go out
and get Oklahoma and Texas. Oklahoma looks a little bit
overwhelmed by not necessarily the level of competition, but the
consistency of the level of competition. They haven't been able
to get right yet. You know, they don't play for
a national championship, they don't get as many teams in
the College Wall Playoff as I'm sure they think, and
(29:57):
reality is they deserve. But then when they got there,
you know again, it wasn't like it was all the
SEC teams in the final four. So what are your
thoughts on how important this year is perception wise for
the SEC.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
I just hate this for them so much, poor man,
A lot of the just it's just it's just stinks.
Then they won the championship in every sport baseball, basketball,
and then they have two down years in football and
the world is ending.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Look, I mean I think the pressure is on Texas
right that the number one the country, and uh, you know,
George's won their championships, Bama's won their championships. Just pressure
on Kale and the board to be nick statement, which
is unfair for him. You know, Brian Kelly was pressure
LSU to have a year with the with the quarterback
they have not. Even the pressure is squarely on Texas, right,
I mean, you know they're number in the country. Parks
(30:49):
made the playoff two years in a row. They've been
building and building for this arch Manning moment, right to
have arch Maning as their quarterback and and and be
as good as they can be. I don't know if
the pressures on the SE see exactly. And you know
the argument, of course they eat each other up than
they do. But what's funny is you know, for years
the Packed twelve did did did the same thing, ate
each other up in conference play. No one ever said, oh,
(31:09):
the Packed well, you know, give them a break. They
all beat each other in conference play. And that's what
the SEC was talking about last year, right. Oh, conference
is so difficult. That's why we lose games in conference.
I think it's just Texas, Doug. I think if Texas
can play up to expectations. The conference will look a
lot different if they can't and they have some tough
(31:29):
games this year they do they you know, they played
Georgia and they play Ohio State. I think, uh, we'll
look at the conference a lot differently.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He's the one only.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Jeff Schwartz, former NFL lineman, coast to count down to
kick Off with Brian El and Bill Krackenberger every Sunday
right here on Fox Sports Radio. Great staff, Schwartze, Thanks.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
So much, Thank you guys, having good week.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm Doug Gottam, He's Dan Byron for Dan, The Dan
Nuts coming up on the Dan Patrick Show. Have you
been watching the Bills on Hard Knocks? If not, we
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Speaker 1 (31:58):
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Speaker 2 (32:10):
Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byer,
Jason Stewart, Chris Pohettan for Dan and the Dan Nets
here on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Yeah,
it's it's always fascinating to me on how teams act
like they don't want to be on Hard Knocks, even
though most of America when they watch Hard Knocks falls
(32:32):
in love with that team, and Hard Knocks has become
basically an infomercial, right. I mean, the best Hard Knocks
might have been the offseason one with the Giants last year.
Dan and I have talked about this a bunch, right,
but the backlash was so severe that one other teams
became hesitant and two Hard Knocks themselves like, we're not
(32:55):
showing any that hard hitting discussion stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Forget that, No, thank you.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
It was so good, Doug. No team wanted to do
it this year.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, yep, so.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They did the bills and it's basically a fluff It's
a weekly fluff piece in the bills there.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, we'll find out here as we play Hard Knocks trivia,
Doug Gottlie, let's get to a game. Jason Stewart and
Chris Purfett are here as well. I kind of want
to rotate with you guys, just a show of hands,
and by that I mean who has watched and who hasn't.
Who has watched any of the first two episodes of
HBO Hard Knocks, Doug, have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay, Well, I've watched pieces. I can't say I watch service.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
That's fine. Jason Stewart, I.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Watched the very first episode and I haven't seen the second.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Okay, And Chris Prefett, my Max subscription is lapsed. I've
only seen the first like twenty seconds with over in
the other end.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That is perfectly fine. It fits well. And unfortunately, if
you have not seen Tuesday's episode, there could be some
spoilers here from what you're gonna get? All right, Doug,
you get question number one in Hard Knocks Trivia. Friend,
from this you good? You can call Jason or Chris.
Chris has only got twenty seconds of material for you.
But let's see how you do on question one? All
(34:14):
multiple choice?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Who was meeting with GM Brandon Bean in his office
during this week's episode. Was it a Sean McDermott, the
head coach, talking cutdowns, B wide receiver kJ Hamler as
he was getting released, C former GM Bill Pollian reminiscing
on good times, or D all of the above. D
all of the above. That is incorrect.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It was C.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
It was just Bill Pollion, Brandon Bean, Terry Pegoula, someone else,
all just talking about the good old days and how
they have quarterback number one QB one is Josh Allen.
They know that. Why would you want to talk with
the head coach about cutdowns and get any footage of that?
All right? Question number two, Jason Stewart, This one for you,
(35:00):
Oh good. Wide receiver kJ Hamler was featured in the
episode because A he stepped on Josh or Josh Allen
stepped on his foot in practice. B was trying to
figure out how to get his electric scooter to fit
in his car. C he scored a touchdown in the
preseason opener, or D all of the above.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Just going by the first episode and how the most
trivial things are featured, I'm going to go with B
trying to figure out an electric scooter and how to
put it into his car.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Well, the good news is you're kind of right. It's
actually D all of the above. Josh Allen did step
on his foot and boy, what a crazy scene that was.
That was I'll tell you that was some good TV.
And then he scored a touchdown in the preseason opener.
That was crazy. I mean, you want to talk about
this stuff that you don't see or that you can see,
five times on the NFL Network in a replay. I mean,
(35:52):
this is what HBO's hard.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Not sarcasm to the listener, who I'll.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Tell you this is the hard hitting stuff that you're
getting from the Buffalo Bills. All right, Chris Purfett, you
want to step into this gauntlet? Oh boy, Yeah, let's go.
Let's go right. Question number three, Head coach Sean McDermott
made a call to was it a GM Brandon bean
about needing depth on the defensive line. B to Marv
(36:17):
Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday. C to
his wife to say he was gonna be late because
they were working on a trade, or d all of
the above.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
I gotta hand it to you, Dan, because anytime there's
an all of the above option on one of these things,
it gets bait. It's it's just it's sitting there. It
wants you to wrap everything up. I'm gonna try to
avoid it and hope it doesn't bite me. I'm gonna
say A needs depth on the O line. That would
be actually a really good conversation. We didn't see that.
We saw the birthday call the Marv Levy.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's what we saw on speakerphone of Sean McDermott calling
Marv Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I love Marv Levy. Kyle an upset though that is
still were you guys also surprised to see that or
did you guys all know that years old? Yeah, it
seemed like he was ninety five when they were going
to Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yes, he's been old for a long time. People aren't
usually that old that long. But it's also, you know,
and I'm sure he was in football first, you know,
his whole professional life. But it's like it's like guys
that go gray early, they look younger when they're older,
Guys that go balderly look younger when they're older. Marv
(37:31):
Levy looked has been old for a long time. So
it's like, yeah, Marvel leaves old. I have no idea
how old he is. I don't know once you get
to like seventy five, I.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Don't know if it's true or not. But the one
that's messed with me lately is that Vic Taybeck Mel
from Alice. You know Mel's diner was forty seven when
he was playing Mel like that one, Like, is that true?
I know like the Wilford Brimley one is the Cocoon
one crazy? But I've seen this Alice meme and I'm like, WHOA,
(38:00):
that's crazy because I'm older than that. Now, all right, Doug,
back to you. Josh Allen revealed A he improvs with
his wife at home. B that he called Patrick Mahomes
after the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl. See that he
changed his diet this offseason or d all of the above,
man oh man, A, that is correct. He does improv
(38:27):
at home with his new wife, Haley Steinfeld. Is improvably euphemism?
Or does he actually do acting improvisation? He said that
they they run lines, that they do some improv back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Because well, what are you copying there?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
If you listen to Busting with the Boys, because that
was also shown on Hard Knocks that the interview that
Josh Allen did with Will Compton and Taylor Lawan that
was featured and this was brought up on how Josh
Allen would he'd like to be in a movie sometime
and that they sometimes throw lines back and forth, but
it would be cool. I don't know if he did
(39:03):
or didn't call Patrick Mahomes, but if he did it
would have been cool to hear about it. Finally, all right, Jason,
this comes back to you. Chris, you're spared you only
get one question of this five question quiz. Thank you
for this. Mercy owner Terry pagoula A hosted a party
at his house with Vince Carter in attendance. B hosted
a party at his house with Bruce Smith in attendance.
C hosted a party at his house with Roger Goodell
(39:25):
in attendance or d all of the above.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Wow, these all seem equally boring. I'm gonna go with
the most random. He he hosted Vince Carter.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Correct, Yeah, yes he did minority ownership share each of
them do in the Bills. Yes, but there was no
Bruce Smith, there was no Roger Goodell.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Joseel that doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
It was and again it's like a preseason, you know,
let's kick it off to the season. But this is
this is what you're getting, Like, there's nothing of substance
in believable A fifty five minute infomercial on the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
This trivia contest was much more interesting, uh than the
subject matter of the show. I got a question for you, guys,
Terry pegula didn't know that he owned the bills. I'm
glad he does.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You guy?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
You are you guys very familiar with the early COVID
Uh early COVID theory where it went from a wet
market bat into another animal into humans. That's been debunked
by the way. Uh wasn't it called a pagula? So
the bat into the into human? Oh, Pengling, Nice work, Chris,
(40:42):
very good. I was testing.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I think I think of wedding singer with Julia Gia
Julia Gulia.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, I just do. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's Dan Byron for Dan Dan. That's coming to the
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Doot with Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, Chris Proffet. I'm Doug Gottlieb,
the Doug Gottlieb Show crew, sitting in for Dan and
the Dan Nuts here as we get ready for football season.
While we continue to ride out the wave of the
Brewers winning streak. Uh, the Angels winning streak. Huh, you
(00:36):
can put a halo on that one as the angel
sweep the Dodgers. I'm sure there's other stuff going on
in sports, and we're gonna get to this Shador Sanders
topic in one second. I do think that there's this
is a real thing, Dan, I think this year has
been a abject disaster for the w NBA from this standpoint. Well,
(00:59):
you can be the most ardent WNBA. I can't stand
the women and how they treat Caitlyn Clark, or how
the level of play or the promotion of it, or
putting them on ads instead of NBA players or whatever.
There's plenty of guys out there that feel that way, right,
But their main attraction is Caitlyn Clark. She has not
(01:22):
played during the meat of summer, and by the time
she comes back and plays, football is being played and
zero people care about the WNBA. Now there's and there
was a there's a growing following. And I'm just telling you,
(01:42):
like that last summer, not putting her on the Olympic
team was messy. It probably helped her personally as she
it was just too much of a whirlwind and she
got kind of got her stuff together for the playoff run,
but it did not promote the sport. And then the
one woman that drives ratings to the sport isn't playing
all summer and she'll come back and play. By the
(02:03):
time she comes back, some plays, it's the end of August,
We're onto football. College football starts in with two weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, Like you want to talk about missing a window, Right's.
I was thinking about that last time. I was like, Hey,
what's missing? Why has there been zero to talk about
for like three weeks outside of Chador or whatever. And
I know it's usually this way, but I'd landed on Hey,
(02:31):
last summer we were talking about Olympics, WNBA Caitlin Clark,
and she's very much still alive, still playing basketball, but
injured right now during the one time of year and
nothing else is going on that anybody wants talk about it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And here's the scary thing. College football is a week
from Saturday away because of week zero, the full schedule
obviously coming up with August twenty eighth, two weeks from today,
and then obviously on Saturday, August thirtieth, we get a
full slate of games. But Doug, to your point point
about the WNBA, I don't think any storyline was able
(03:04):
to grow. And I thought maybe we were gonna get that.
I thought we were maybe going to get more players
receptive to Caitlin Clark. We saw Sophie Cunningham make a
name for herself, and she made quite a name for
herself in sticking up for her. But I thought something
was interesting when the Connecticut Sun played the Fever and
they moved a game to Boston, and this was after
(03:25):
the little melee that they had earlier in the season,
and I'm like, this could be good for the WNBA
to get Connecticut Sun fans, maybe to be a rival
of the Indiana Fever that did not happen. There was
no ability to make a rivalry with Page Beckers and
the Dallas team because Caitlin Clark hasn't been available. Nothing
was able to progress this year, and if anything, maybe
(03:48):
it took a step back because we see that it
is so Caitlin Clark driven.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Don't you think that the contrast has been offered up though?
Because Doug's point that it's been a disaster for the WNBA,
can you make a case that it's been a net
positive for Caitlin Clark and that she proved in her
absence how valuable she is to an entity. This coming
off of her declining to do that stupid three on
(04:14):
three league, coming off of get A not being included
on the Olympic team. This whole Sophie Cunningham storyline is
all about her protecting Kitlin Clark. That's her brand. She's
gotten the podcast, she's gotten the ad time because of
protecting Kitlin Clark. So maybe a disaster for the w
the other part to it, but net positive for Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There's another part to the Sophie Cunningham right. She's an
attractive woman that plays basketball right, and she's flirty with
with how she looks at the camera.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So I mean, I think, but yes.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Being white and straight too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All those things, all those things were, all those things were.
But I think most of it is that the part
is the connection. She's she's, you want to, riding the
way of Caitlyn Clark, or she's catching some of that
whitewash of Caitlin Clark along with you know, being attractive
and you know, being completely different from what our images
of WNBA players was for the past twenty five years,
(05:14):
which has allowed us to hyper focus on a fifth
round pick at quarterback. Right, it's like we just we
have to pay attention to something. And I even think
like the Micah Parsons thing, because because the Cowboys thing
happens every single year, right, every single year, it's like, hey,
who can wecorate some sort of salary drama. We know
(05:37):
Jerry's ultimately gonna pay him. Let's ask for an obscene
amount of money. Maybe it's not the time, maybe it's
not the place. And then Mike Parson's really good. Cowboys
aren't but they're not terrible. You're gonna pay him. He's
doing a hold in. He's really under contract for three
more years without negotiation if they want to, so it's
gonna get done. It was kind of agreed to. Then
(05:59):
the agent was like, Yo, anyway, I think people are
completely over talking about the Cowboys, Like, let me know
when the Cowboys lose late in the season and fall
out of the playoffs so I can make fun of them,
or let me know if they get to the playoffs
and lose early so I can make fun of them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I've seen this movie. I know how it ends.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So instead we're hyper focusing on Shador standers, which brings
us to Dan Byer your thought on Shador.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, So earlier in the week, Doug, I just made
the point that with the music playing in week one
of a preseason game where he hadn't gotten a lot
of snaps with film crew following him around, that those
were the things that I didn't think NFL teams wanted
to deal with or felt that there was a lot
of extra with Shador, and which was one of the
(06:43):
reasons why he fell in the NFL draft, And for
as great as he played on that Friday night against Carolina,
it was everything that was extra about it that was
the reason or that I felt that he fell in
the draft. And none of that had changed, so there
wasn't an opportunity for Shador Sanders to maybe do things
(07:04):
a bit different. The reason why he fell to the
fifth round, I felt was because of everything that was
extra with him that teams didn't want to deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, I actually I'll draw a comp to what
we went through last year. You know, you get the
job late and we're on what's called APR probation APR probation,
So APR probation, we can only practice five instead of
six days a week, and those four hours of practice
time that we lost have to be mandatory study hall
(07:37):
for your team, right, And it's not because of my team.
It's like two years previous team was an academic disaster. Anyway,
The point was that when we every player we took,
we had to take with the mindset of, okay, what
happens if he flunks out. We can't have a guy
flunk out because you have a certain number of points.
(07:58):
You know, everybody has to be eligible, and then if
they leave, they have to go find a school. Has
to be a four year school. There's all these rules
with they have to get a certain GPA in order
to transfer to a four year school to a junior college,
they're a freshman to another school. They got to get
a you know, a two point five, otherwise they hurt
you academically. So we had to evaluate who we take
(08:20):
based upon how hard they were.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
To get rid of.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That makes sense, yes, And I think that was a
real thing for Shadre Sanders, which was, you know, he
clearly blew off a bunch of these meetings and was
disengaged and frankly rude. Everybody says it. I've heard from
real NFL people that it was in many ways worse
just because this was their way of I don't want
to be drafted by that team. And you know, coaches
(08:47):
everyone talks to everyone in the industry, they just do.
So then word got out that shador Sanders was a
complete jerk in these meetings, and then start to factor in, Okay,
well I might like him, but Dion's gonna want my
job because he wants to coach his kid. And oh yeah,
(09:09):
by the way, you're gonna have a film crew, you're
gonna have his boys. You have a kid that comes
from a kid that comes from money. So there's the perception,
whether it's real or not, that he's arrogant that he's entitled.
Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a
guy who's not a first round draft pick. You know,
and then you have to factor in your mind, Okay,
(09:31):
what happens if we cut him? Because that's a big
reason Kaepernick. There's lots of reasons Kaepernick was never back
in the NFL. Okay, he didn't want to be a backup,
and he was at the point in his career where
he had to be a backup and then potentially earn
it or get a little luck. Guy gets hurt and
then you get an opportunity. But it was the big
(09:51):
part was and I talked to a GM I remember
at the time, said it's not that if I bring
him in, it'll be great, It'll be well received. He's
a talented guy. He's probably a backup stage in his career.
You know, he's not great at reading a defense. Remember
he can only scramble out to his right. There's a
lot of things that but it was what happens if
I cut him? If I cut him, I get me
called a racist. I gotta lose half my locker room.
(10:13):
What happens for Shador Sanders if we cut him. You
know what what happens?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
How are we received? Do we do?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We look like clowns for taking this guy on? So
I yeah, I do see that. I I completely agreed
with your take, which is the the play.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
On the fuel was fine. It was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I still don't know how good an army has, right,
it's still against but whatever, Like, let's not diminish.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sure, I agree, But it's the you show up and
you're a fifth round pick, and you're fourth in the
depth chart, and you got a dude bring in music,
hold another guy holding your bag, get like, what what
are we doing? That's not how quarterback is played in
the NFL. Quarterback it's very much like a political position
(11:03):
where you got to rally everybody behind you and you
got it the same reason that politicians they go and
do they go to these like diners or they go
get ice cream, and they always you know what they
always wear. They always wear a blue buttonoun dress shirt.
They don't wear a tie, and they roll up their sleeves.
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Right now, all these guys are ridiculously rich. Trump's the
only one to be like, I'm rich, I'm wearing my stuff,
I'm wearing the same suit every day. Like I don't
even know if he has like any you know, anything
else to wear, but all these other politicians they do
because that's the job. You're supposed to look like the everyman. Right,
I'm just roll up my sleeves, no tie, Right, I'm
(11:47):
one of you. Like what But that's where And there's
definitely a section of fans that think that this is
about things that it's not about. That's just hey, hey,
it's a young black man trying to trying to, you know,
push the envelope what's acceptable, Like, well, there's the young
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black man was drafted number one overall quarterback this year, Like,
what do we do? It's happened ten times. It's not
about that. It's about the appearance of being humble, not entitled,
and motivated to prove everybody wrong. Right, And that part
he's obviously motivated to prove everybody wrong, but it's the
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delivery still feels like he doesn't actually get it, and
Bill hasn't actually.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Got it, and it feels like that he wants to
do it on his own terms. And the point that
I will stand by and I don't take anything back
for what I said was it's also a little bit
of an indictment on the NFL. But again, the NFL
and these teams are in charge. So when you're applying
for a job or going for a job, you want
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to be able to show your worth and fit in.
And I just found it surprising. Instead of carrying a
veteran's stuffel bag into the locker room like a rookie
normally would that, another teammate of his was playing Shador's
own song in week one of a preseason game, and
I just I it was surprising to me, and it
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felt like it was a lot and at that point,
like if it was week one of a regular season
game where he had won the job, maybe there's something
to that. Maybe at that point you can do it.
But I just felt, in week one of a preseason game,
do you need your own soundtrack walking into the stadium?
And I just didn't think so. I thought the Tony
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Grossi interview that was recorded, which Tony ended up approaching Shador,
but Tony didn't know that they were recording. That's another
aspect of it. It's not that the NFL is Scott
free and it's all blamed on Shador, but that's where
you would think a lot of the responses came from
that Shador is the victim and in all of this
and what's happening in Cleveland because he was the one
(14:00):
that was taken in the fifth round, that he's the
one that's not getting the first team reps. Like that's sports,
that's that's that's what you gotta deal with. This is
no different than other quarterbacks. So to put paint Chadors
a victim here, which I don't think Schador is trying
to do, I think it's I think it's the fan
base of Chador that's trying to do that. I just
(14:21):
I don't agree with that at all.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, it it definitely it's given us something to get
us through kind of this preseason. We're talking about the
Browns and their current fourth string quarterback. It has distracted
us from talking about Deshaun Watson, who's still like working out.
You know, they changed his contracts. I think they got
him for a couple more years. Like that's gonna be
weird when he we have. He mentioned like he's gonna
(14:43):
come back at some point and want to play football.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It's it's gonna be fascinating.
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It's America's team in college football, American's team in college football.
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I think that's it's a it's an interesting one. Like, uh,
Notre Dame has been has always been the Dallas Cowboys
for really the last thirty years. Much like the Cowboys,
it's been he's been more than a minute since they've won.
Unlike the Cowboys have actually gotten to deep deep into
(16:25):
the playoffs. Right, But for most of my life, even
when I went to Notre Dame for a year, when
Notre Dame loses half the half, the college football world rejoices.
And I don't know if that hasn't sort of died
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down because they haven't been at the SEC level. They
haven't been Alabama they have where now it feels like
it's the people take joy in the SEC not winning
a national championship. I'm just wondering Dan your thoughts on
whether or not Notre Dame can kind of reclaim their
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throne as America's team, but not because they're great, but
because now they're seen as a bit of an underdog
correct does things the right way.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I think it's absolutely and I think if you look
at the National Championship game that we just had in January.
Notre Dame comes in as the underdog to Ohio State.
In Ohio State is the brand, and I know that
there will be Notre Dame people who fight against that,
but in talking about this world of college football, Ohio
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State represents like Alabama now the big boys in the
bullies and Doug on a larger scale, I think the
big ten in the SEC, with how we're going to
shape college football and how we see the future changing,
are also thought as the bullies in the big Boys.
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So Notre Dame is now in a spot where Marcus
Freeman seems to be loved by everyone, young, energetic head coach.
They're no longer the top brand, as you say the
Dallas Cowboys of college football. These other teams are thought
of as the villain. And really there is no other
school that can grab that label as national team or
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America's team in college football because it is so regional
and it's so local that I think it's there again
for the taking for Notre Dame, just in a different
way that you laid out.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know, could Clemson be no, No, nope? Why
because in the South, Yeah, and they're not in the SEC.
They're not in the Big ten. They're trying to do
it with keeping everybody in the house, not go to
the portal. You know, Yes, Christophett, I.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Think there is something to Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Like we were just talking the break, their decision always
to play in states where they can get recruits, where
they've maintained this kind of like you know, Globe Trotter
Nation Trotter brand. And also there's no other way around it,
like they're the they're the football team that's Catholic and
that's always going to carry I think some some power,
even though like I.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Don't I don't know if it don't. I don't know
if it does. I don't know if it does anymore. Right,
in the eighties and nineties, the high school programs were
the Catholic programs in the in the Midwest, right, but
now you see obviously the migration of Americans to the
South and for example in Texas and Oklahoma, these unbelievable
football programs. High school programs are public schools. They are
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there still a private school presence. Yeah, you know, modern
day in southern California and some and Jay Sarah and
some of the other one Santa Margarita. Obviously, the in
the the Orange County Private School League has always been
a well spring for quarterback and an elite talent. But
I don't know if that's the case anymore. Let's let's ask.
Jefsh Wartz joins us here. Of course, you can hear
(19:50):
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Brian Brian Now and Bill Krackenberger. Jefsh Wartz course played
at Oregon, former NFL lineman, and he joins us now
on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Who's
America's team in college football?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Your opinion?
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Good question. America's team in college football? Does just mean
like the team that someone roots for, the most popular team.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I don't know. I just you take You're allowed to
take it however you want to take it.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
My first thought was Notre Dame. I think that there
are more people that probably root for Notre Dame that
like have no affiliation to anything else, If that makes sense,
I think that's probably the team. There are people that
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root for them just because of their religion. I mean,
there are people that root for them because their dad
rooted for them. I mean, there's obviously popular teams depending
on if they're winning or not. I mean Georgia and
Texas and your popular teams the South are very popular.
But like nationally, I don't think it's USC. It's not Ball, Oregon,
boun Washington. I mean Texas has a bunch of haters
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as well. I probably, I would say Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And I think that we grew up in a time
all of us here where Notre Dame was with Lou Holtz,
the good team and the villain at that point. My point, Jeff,
is why I like Notre Dame is now. I think
that they're actually liked because the villains seem to be
the big ten in the SEC and even the top
schools in those leagues. So now you have a coach
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and Marcus Freeman that everybody likes. I was just telling
Doug that in the National Championship game, they're the underdog,
and I feel more people were rooting against Ohio State
and for Notre Dame than than we have ever had before.
And I feel that's why the tables have shifted where
Notre Dame is now in a well liked spot as
opposed to when we were growing up. They seem to
be this elitist that we couldn't like.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
That's certainly fair. I think that the elite thing is
sort of gone because everyone is now elite. I mean,
you're the money these kids are making now, and the
NIL has turned I mean tech attack. I mean, look
what they're doing right, Like they're almost they're not even
they're not even joking about it the other day where
they just put out the oil derec like, yep, it's
how we're paying for everybody. It's just it's this oil money.
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So no one feels elite anymore. I think not one
team does, because that's not the way college football is anymore. Right,
it feels there's there's not more parody, but there sort
of feels like there is. I mean, the same teams
every year at the top of the league, and the
same teams can win every year. But it does feel
like the middle has been has risen a bunch with
NIL and there is everyone feels more elite.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
To put it like that, How about your your boys
organ What are your thoughts on what they what they're
gonna play, how they're gonna look this year.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Yeah, I'm excited to see us. You know, we have
a lot of new pieces. But I think this is where,
you know, the returning production discussion is interesting because you
Organs have a ton of returning production. But then they added,
you know too, offensive lineman that that could be first
round picks, add a safety that might be a first
round pick. They added a quarterback and a five star
and Dante Moors, you know, stat behind Viillan Gabriel last season,
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there are some question marks. I think we have youth
at defensive tackle, wide receiver, trying to find a couple
of guys that will be the standouts. But I think
when you look at Douay, Dan Lennon has both the
program year one nine and three year two ten and
two year three, twelve and oh and then even you
know even the postseason, right, you win a bowl game
your first year, next year you go to taxle championship game.
The next year you go to the playoffs. So you
(23:27):
lose the first game of the playoff obviously, So the
progression I really like. I think it's important to note,
and this is something that I talk about a lot
of comes college football, is this is his first job
as a head coach. He's thirty nine years old, maybe
thirty eight and you know, it takes time to win.
Herbie Smart one in year six, Ryan Day one in
year six. You know these other coaches that have gone
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places in one in media, like Urban one in the
year two. At four, he was already a head coach
at Utah and Bowling Greed. He had to experience it
being a head coach. Now you're thrust in at this age.
It takes time. We saw it very clearly with Ryan
Date right even last year is ups and downs of
a single season. It takes time. I think we're on
the right track at Oregon right now. I was expect
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us to have a really good season. Again. I don't
know if we win a championship. I think a lot
of things have to come together for that to happen.
But I'm excited about the sort of the path we're on.
Our conference schedule sets up really well. We should win no,
you know, no, no less than ten games, and it'd
be tough to go in to see let's go to
Penn State. That's a pretty tough game. The white Out
game Week five, they're off of buy We're not. I
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got to go across the country. I mean, there's things
that will be tough to win that game. So I
think the ten eleven wins is probably where we're at.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Let's stay in the big ten because you mentioned James
Franklin and Penn State, like, like, is it national championship
or bust for the Nittany Lions this year? What does
James Franklin have to do to be able to get
some breathing room and get this monkey off of his
back of not being a big game head coach.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, they win a championship. It's that simple. That that
I think is where you're at. Where you know right now,
you know it's twenty you know, people say they're they're
unreliable and argue that that they're actually very reliable. We
know that what they're gonna do, they're gonna be everyone
they should, which is what James Fakin has done now
for seven years. There's no upsets, you never get upset.
He wins the games you should and unfortunately he loses
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obviously games he should as well. And that's where there
has to be that that change. But that's what one
or two games a year, that's it, right. I mean
he's a favorite in this team. Look at this Custer
right now, They're gonna be a multiple touchdown favorite in
every game, but two right, there'll be a small favorite.
Its organ at home, I think it's four or five points.
There'll be a four point four or five point dot
at Ohio State. You split those, you're eleven and one.
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You go back to Indianapolis. You know you're a playoffs team.
So they're They're success will be judged totally on what
happens in the postseason. James Franklin just hasn't. He hasn't
won that game yet. He just hasn't. And until it happens,
I'm not betting against them, but I'm not betting on
them either. I just they have to win that game
against It's one game a year, maybe two. That's it.
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That's all we're judging Penn State on, which may be unfair,
but that's what college sports and college leble the high
level can be.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Why don't they win those games?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Good question. I think one of the things you have
to do in those games is offensively, you have to
be able to hit explosive plays. And why I say
that is it's really hard at college football for college
athletes eighteen to twenty teen years old to have ten
twelve play offensive drives without a cast off and mistake,
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and the sooner you can score, the sooner you can
get off the field, as sooner you put points on board,
the sooner that you press the other team. And for
the most part they did in the Big Ten championship game.
The problem is Oregan was able to match. But against
these Ohio States, the Michigans, you know that they can't beat.
It just takes too long to score. And if they
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can find that in their offense. Now they went and
got three new portal wide receivers and they have the
quarterback obviously to make that happen. So that's I think
where the biggest need just excell to and Os wasn't
you know, strategy. There seems to be an error or
two in clock management and game decisions in these big moments.
And you think, you know, Franklins, you're fifteen. You hope
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that you would figure those things out. But those combinations
of both those two things really hurt them in the
big moments. And again it's just a couple of moments
a year, man, that's it. That's all, that's all it is.
You know, they'll blow everyone else out, they'll win all
the games they should, but in those couple of moments too.
There was was it last year? Right? They the play
calling on the goal line was pretty bad. Years back,
they ran a terrible fourth down inside zone like everyone
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knew was coming. Like those moments, they just don't win
those moments.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, they had an opportunity to to Betoha State. You're
right there on the goal line, and then they can't
punch it in and Ohio State runs the clock out
for the final five minutes. Not to make this all
about Penn State, but obviously with Drew Aller coming back,
with all of these other pieces coming back, is there
added pressure? Like, is there a way that this backfires
against them? Because in a way, I think for a
(28:00):
little while for Ohio State last year, it did. Do
you think that could happen with Penn State this year?
Speaker 8 (28:07):
They don't think so. And I'll tell you why. You know,
I was at Big tim Media Day. I was covering it,
so we talked to every coach, every player there, and
you know, James Franklin acknowledged the pressure that comes with
this season. I like that. I liked hearing that the
players talked about the pressure that comes with this season.
So they're acknowledging it up front now can it cripple you, Absolutely,
But I think the first step is acknowledging, like, yes,
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this is where expectations are and this is what we
want to do this season. I think a lot of
times you hide from that, and then the pressure mounts
and you haven't really talked about it as a team
and really done the preparation mentally to handle those type
of questions they're asked every week, and that type of pressure,
it really kind of seats up on you, and that's
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when teams fall apart. So I like the fact that
they've acknowledged that this is what our past needs to be,
this is what our goal is, here's how we get there.
And so I don't think they'll crumble. I mean last
year they didn't. They didn't rely crumble. Last ye bet
Ohia State. They haven't been Ohio State in ten years.
Last season they won two playoff games. Again, the two
playoff games they should have won. Right, it's a game
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once a year that matters the most. They haven't been
able to win that game.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Jeff Schwartz joining us. You can hear him on Sunday
mornings here on Fox Sports Radio Countdown to kick Off.
Of course, he's both a college and NFL analysts, as
well as a talented radio host. He joins us here
on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Feels
like a huge year for the SEC, right because the
last twenty five years been dominated by the SEC. They
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got got it more money than God. They go out
and get Oklahoma and Texas. Oklahoma looks a little bit
overwhelmed by not necessarily the level of competition, but the
consistency of the level of competition. They haven't been able
to get right yet. You know, they don't play for
a national championship, they don't get as many teams in
the College Wall Playoff as I'm sure they think, and
(29:57):
reality is they deserve. But then when they got there,
you know again, it wasn't like it was all the
SEC teams in the final four. So what are your
thoughts on how important this year is perception wise for
the SEC.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
I just hate this for them so much, poor man,
A lot of the just it's just it's just stinks.
Then they won the championship in every sport baseball, basketball,
and then they have two down years in football and
the world is ending.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Look, I mean I think the pressure is on Texas
right that the number one the country, and uh, you know,
George's won their championships, Bama's won their championships. Just pressure
on Kale and the board to be nick statement, which
is unfair for him. You know, Brian Kelly was pressure
LSU to have a year with the with the quarterback
they have not. Even the pressure is squarely on Texas, right,
I mean, you know they're number in the country. Parks
(30:49):
made the playoff two years in a row. They've been
building and building for this arch Manning moment, right to
have arch Maning as their quarterback and and and be
as good as they can be. I don't know if
the pressures on the SE see exactly. And you know
the argument, of course they eat each other up than
they do. But what's funny is you know, for years
the Packed twelve did did did the same thing, ate
each other up in conference play. No one ever said, oh,
(31:09):
the Packed well, you know, give them a break. They
all beat each other in conference play. And that's what
the SEC was talking about last year, right. Oh, conference
is so difficult. That's why we lose games in conference.
I think it's just Texas, Doug. I think if Texas
can play up to expectations. The conference will look a
lot different if they can't and they have some tough
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games this year they do they you know, they played
Georgia and they play Ohio State. I think, uh, we'll
look at the conference a lot differently.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He's the one only.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
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Speaker 8 (31:46):
So much, Thank you guys, having good week.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
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it's it's always fascinating to me on how teams act
like they don't want to be on Hard Knocks, even
though most of America when they watch Hard Knocks falls
(32:32):
in love with that team, and Hard Knocks has become
basically an infomercial, right. I mean, the best Hard Knocks
might have been the offseason one with the Giants last year.
Dan and I have talked about this a bunch, right,
but the backlash was so severe that one other teams
became hesitant and two Hard Knocks themselves like, we're not
(32:55):
showing any that hard hitting discussion stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Forget that, No, thank you.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
It was so good, Doug. No team wanted to do
it this year.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, yep, so.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They did the bills and it's basically a fluff It's
a weekly fluff piece in the bills there.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, we'll find out here as we play Hard Knocks trivia,
Doug Gottlie, let's get to a game. Jason Stewart and
Chris Purfett are here as well. I kind of want
to rotate with you guys, just a show of hands,
and by that I mean who has watched and who hasn't.
Who has watched any of the first two episodes of
HBO Hard Knocks, Doug, have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay, Well, I've watched pieces. I can't say I watch service.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
That's fine. Jason Stewart, I.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Watched the very first episode and I haven't seen the second.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Okay, And Chris Prefett, my Max subscription is lapsed. I've
only seen the first like twenty seconds with over in
the other end.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That is perfectly fine. It fits well. And unfortunately, if
you have not seen Tuesday's episode, there could be some
spoilers here from what you're gonna get? All right, Doug,
you get question number one in Hard Knocks Trivia. Friend,
from this you good? You can call Jason or Chris.
Chris has only got twenty seconds of material for you.
But let's see how you do on question one? All
(34:14):
multiple choice?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Who was meeting with GM Brandon Bean in his office
during this week's episode. Was it a Sean McDermott, the
head coach, talking cutdowns, B wide receiver kJ Hamler as
he was getting released, C former GM Bill Pollian reminiscing
on good times, or D all of the above. D
all of the above. That is incorrect.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It was C.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
It was just Bill Pollion, Brandon Bean, Terry Pegoula, someone else,
all just talking about the good old days and how
they have quarterback number one QB one is Josh Allen.
They know that. Why would you want to talk with
the head coach about cutdowns and get any footage of that?
All right? Question number two, Jason Stewart, This one for you,
(35:00):
Oh good. Wide receiver kJ Hamler was featured in the
episode because A he stepped on Josh or Josh Allen
stepped on his foot in practice. B was trying to
figure out how to get his electric scooter to fit
in his car. C he scored a touchdown in the
preseason opener, or D all of the above.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Just going by the first episode and how the most
trivial things are featured, I'm going to go with B
trying to figure out an electric scooter and how to
put it into his car.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Well, the good news is you're kind of right. It's
actually D all of the above. Josh Allen did step
on his foot and boy, what a crazy scene that was.
That was I'll tell you that was some good TV.
And then he scored a touchdown in the preseason opener.
That was crazy. I mean, you want to talk about
this stuff that you don't see or that you can see,
five times on the NFL Network in a replay. I mean,
(35:52):
this is what HBO's hard.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Not sarcasm to the listener, who I'll.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Tell you this is the hard hitting stuff that you're
getting from the Buffalo Bills. All right, Chris Purfett, you
want to step into this gauntlet? Oh boy, Yeah, let's go.
Let's go right. Question number three, Head coach Sean McDermott
made a call to was it a GM Brandon bean
about needing depth on the defensive line. B to Marv
(36:17):
Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday. C to
his wife to say he was gonna be late because
they were working on a trade, or d all of
the above.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
I gotta hand it to you, Dan, because anytime there's
an all of the above option on one of these things,
it gets bait. It's it's just it's sitting there. It
wants you to wrap everything up. I'm gonna try to
avoid it and hope it doesn't bite me. I'm gonna
say A needs depth on the O line. That would
be actually a really good conversation. We didn't see that.
We saw the birthday call the Marv Levy.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's what we saw on speakerphone of Sean McDermott calling
Marv Levy wishing him a happy one hundredth birthday.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I love Marv Levy. Kyle an upset though that is
still were you guys also surprised to see that or
did you guys all know that years old? Yeah, it
seemed like he was ninety five when they were going
to Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yes, he's been old for a long time. People aren't
usually that old that long. But it's also, you know,
and I'm sure he was in football first, you know,
his whole professional life. But it's like it's like guys
that go gray early, they look younger when they're older,
Guys that go balderly look younger when they're older. Marv
(37:31):
Levy looked has been old for a long time. So
it's like, yeah, Marvel leaves old. I have no idea
how old he is. I don't know once you get
to like seventy five, I.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Don't know if it's true or not. But the one
that's messed with me lately is that Vic Taybeck Mel
from Alice. You know Mel's diner was forty seven when
he was playing Mel like that one, Like, is that true?
I know like the Wilford Brimley one is the Cocoon
one crazy? But I've seen this Alice meme and I'm like, WHOA,
(38:00):
that's crazy because I'm older than that. Now, all right, Doug,
back to you. Josh Allen revealed A he improvs with
his wife at home. B that he called Patrick Mahomes
after the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl. See that he
changed his diet this offseason or d all of the above,
man oh man, A, that is correct. He does improv
(38:27):
at home with his new wife, Haley Steinfeld. Is improvably euphemism?
Or does he actually do acting improvisation? He said that
they they run lines, that they do some improv back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Because well, what are you copying there?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
If you listen to Busting with the Boys, because that
was also shown on Hard Knocks that the interview that
Josh Allen did with Will Compton and Taylor Lawan that
was featured and this was brought up on how Josh
Allen would he'd like to be in a movie sometime
and that they sometimes throw lines back and forth, but
it would be cool. I don't know if he did
(39:03):
or didn't call Patrick Mahomes, but if he did it
would have been cool to hear about it. Finally, all right, Jason,
this comes back to you. Chris, you're spared you only
get one question of this five question quiz. Thank you
for this. Mercy owner Terry pagoula A hosted a party
at his house with Vince Carter in attendance. B hosted
a party at his house with Bruce Smith in attendance.
C hosted a party at his house with Roger Goodell
(39:25):
in attendance or d all of the above.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Wow, these all seem equally boring. I'm gonna go with
the most random. He he hosted Vince Carter.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Correct, Yeah, yes he did minority ownership share each of
them do in the Bills. Yes, but there was no
Bruce Smith, there was no Roger Goodell.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Joseel that doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
It was and again it's like a preseason, you know,
let's kick it off to the season. But this is
this is what you're getting, Like, there's nothing of substance
in believable A fifty five minute infomercial on the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
This trivia contest was much more interesting, uh than the
subject matter of the show. I got a question for you, guys,
Terry pegula didn't know that he owned the bills. I'm
glad he does.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You guy?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
You are you guys very familiar with the early COVID
Uh early COVID theory where it went from a wet
market bat into another animal into humans. That's been debunked
by the way. Uh wasn't it called a pagula? So
the bat into the into human? Oh, Pengling, Nice work, Chris,
(40:42):
very good. I was testing.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I think I think of wedding singer with Julia Gia
Julia Gulia.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, I just do. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's Dan Byron for Dan Dan. That's coming to the
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