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January 1, 2026 42 mins

Jonas Knox & Dan Beyer discuss Aaron Rodgers claiming that he may or may not have some options in his looming free agency in the offseason. Plus, the guys talk the Rose Bowl game traditions and give their take on possibly fixing it, some more fun speeches, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Happy twenty twenty six,
See you and yours welcome in a day full of
college football. Sun shining in South Florida, not so much
in Pasadena. Kirk kurb Street's still on his hat for
the last forty five minutes with his hat number two.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, that's hat number two, but apparatus number three. He
had a blue towel, some random blue towel covering up
his head, and then he went white hat that I saw,
And now he's got a gray rose bowl hat and
it looks like.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Not Rhys Davis.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It looks like he's wearing the trench coat that Robert
stack woorren on sold Mysteries. So there is, there's all
sorts of stuff going on there. Nick Saban clearly wearing
a jacket that isn't his.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
He's well, yes, true, Jake.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Should I wear this Nike pullover over my turqoise ten
thousand dollars suit?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Nobody checked the weather forecast? Is nobody paying attention to, Like,
what's what's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Why does it say Stanford track on the seat like
that doesn't make much sense? Why Why is kirkirk Street's
dog taking a water slide down section the road is
something there.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
He goes sliding into the water.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Redhurbstreet's dog walks into frame and just starts shaking himself
out in front of the Indiana helmet.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
All over my Stanford truck. Check. That's a soggy want
to Pasadena.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
But we are based in southern California, and I can
tell you this, the heaviest rains are gonna move out
by kickoff.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
It may not be sunny, it may not be clear,
but there may.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Not be as much precipitation as we would have thought
for the Rose Bowl. So I think that's good news
for Indiana and Alabama as they played later on today.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I won't be quite as sloppy. No, And you know,
you'd assume they'd have all that figured out. And look,
I know, so look, Alabama fans like to travel. I
do recall working in South Carolina back in two thousand
and nine when they were in the Rose Bowl against
Texas for the National Championship Game, and I just remember

(02:14):
how excited Alabama fans were with this travel package they
got hooked up with where they would fly into San
Diego and then rent a car and then go to
the Rose Bowl, and I said, are you familiar with
traffic for a five o'clock kickoff at the Rose Bowl
from San Diego, La?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Are you who sold you at dummy?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Geography is a lost art? Okay, it truly is. I
love maps. I know you love maps as well. I
love knowing where cities and states are. I had a
cousin once tell me that she had business in San Francisco,
and she wondered if I had time to get together,
what like a full weekend, because that's what it's gonna take. Yeah,
for me to get from here in Los Angeles to

(02:55):
San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
That's what it is, just right up the five.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
We're not the Twin Cities. It's not Saint Paula Minneapolis.
I could just drive over to your place. I don't
how it works.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't think people realize how far away things are
in California. Like, if you get like in any other
part of the country, if it's like, hey, how far
is that not twenty miles twenty minutes, twenty miles in California,
you may as well be driving to the Sudanne.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, you can't get there. It's not happening like switch
the app. It says walking, No one says driving. That
is that is.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
The route you cannot get there.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
That's that's what we're going to have to take.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, it's impossible. There are Indiana fans here. We'll talk
about the mystique of the Rose Bowl coming up. Even
more so in about twenty minutes or so, there's a
mistake about Aaron Rodgers, and the question is, now is
how long will that mystiq?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Last?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I do think in advance of that Sunday Night came
between the Ravens and Steelers. Jonas that with all that's
being said for what's at stake, it has been a
pretty good season for Rogers.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, I would agree, Yeah, I totally. I mean definitely
better than the Jets, like whatever you wouldever you call
that sperience.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
With the Jets, absolutely right, Like the even the second
year when he played was such a complete mass with
Sala being fired. We know the first year, the runout,
the injury on the fourth play. The worst part about
that then was all the rumors of when Rogers is
going to come back. But none of his tenure was
good in New York and so for Aaron Rodgers, to

(04:22):
go to Pittsburgh and be battling for a division title
in week eighteen. I think it's something you would have
taken day one and signing on the dotted line saying yeah,
I would take that. I don't think your expectations would
be more than that. And there are a heck of
a lot more than when he had to deal with
the last two years with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, if you just told him back in August, tay
one game to win the division final week of the season,
and yeah, who wouldn't want that?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, of course. I mean, and look, we talked about
it earlier.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
We don't think it's going to last long if they win,
but I still I would agree with you that it is.
It has been a successful campaign, and who knows, I mean,
according to Aaron Rodgers, maybe there's going to be some
options out there, and maybe there's going to be uh part,
potentially an act too in Pittsburgh or somewhere else after
this season.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Listen, I mean, I'm thinking about this week. But obviously
I'm forty two years old and I'm on a one
year deal, so you know what the situation is. Whenever
the season ends, I'll be a free agent. So that
would give me a lot of options if I still
want to play. I'm in a lot of options, but
there'll be options. I would think maybe one or two
if I decided to want to play.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
But yeah, so there's gonna be some options out there.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Rogers is never and we can get into the options
in a second. So Rogers has never held back in
anything that he's I said.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I thought we were going to play the CBS drop.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Over Hardy and Bert Kreischer.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
By the way, we may have more coming up later
on in the show, so you may want to you
may want to stick around to.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Come to the conclusion of Jason Alden.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
A little big down.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
The Rogers speeches, interviews, everything that he's done, You've always
been his truth.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
He's never held anything back.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
And what I find interesting is if this was any
other quarterback in a situation, like if Tua is asked
about the same thing about his future, if it was
Kyler Murray, or like they're giving coach speak answers. They're
giving answers that have soft landings. For the most part.

(06:25):
This is a pretty like hard landing. But it's not
a hard landing because we know the situation. He's forty
two years old, the Steelers want him back, yet he's
openly talking about the different options that he has. So
that's what's so unique to me about this is we
think that, say, the Tua era is over in Miami,
we think that the Kyler Murray era has probably come

(06:48):
to an end in Arizona. But if you were to
ask those guys or talk to those guys, nobody is
saying like, yeah, I'm probably on my way out. I'm
looking different teams that they could trade me to. But
that's essentially what Aaron Rodgers saying is I'm a free agent.
There's going to be options out there, one of which
could be Minnesota considering how bad that quarterback room.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Was this past year.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, taking nine out of the equation, it's going
to say, yeah, keeping JJ McCarthy in, but leaving nine
out because Night had nothing to do with any of
that mess. But I mean, Rogers are just like openly
saying that I don't know what's coming back. Doesn't even
come off as leverage. And so it's it's so unique
to hear him just to speak freely like that, because
the thirty one other quarterbacks about their situation if they

(07:30):
were in a similar contract situation wouldn't be talking like
that in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, And I think he's And you could say whatever
you want about him and the way he handles the
media and the way he handles conversations, and you know,
whether he's passive, aggressive or like whatever turn whatever you
want to label him as. I also think that he's
very in the moment and I think he's very present.
And I think that's one of the things that he

(07:55):
because he talked about this after he won a Super
Bowl in Green Bay that he remembers sitting on a plane,
He's next to the Lombardi Trophy and kind of looking around,
going is this it like? Is that like it was
built up and built up and built up, and he
finally got it and he was expecting it to be more.
And I think that sort of changed because Kevin Durant
said the same thing before CBS cut him off. Kevin

(08:15):
Durant said the same thing, and I think it was
kind of like, you know, I worked my way, I
had to win a championship, I had to do this,
I go and join the Warriors. I finally won a title,
I went another one, and it's like, is that it
and I think I think Rogers at this stage in
his career is so present because I think he realizes this,
this could be it, and I think I'm gonna be

(08:37):
okay with it. But if there's options, I'll take those options.
And I just think it's a really kind of a
refreshingly honest approach to what could be the final game
of a Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Did you get the sense that Tom Brady was chasing
the eighth after he won the seventh with Tampa, like
the next year he was back for another Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I just think trying to get away from his wife.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I could have been that could have been it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And hey, let me tell you something, Hey Tom, we're
working to buddy, So don't worry.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Don't worries his wife's I can do jiu jitsu in
thirty minutes. The I got the sense that Brady was
always chasing that next ring because hecki said it himself, like, what's.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Your favorite one? The next one?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's very cliche. It's a great catchy line to show
your determination. But I do think that he wanted to
put the Super Bowl records so out of reach that
nobody would touch it. And in this day and age
of everything is built on championships, more so in the
NBA than anywhere else, but in the NFL as well. Listen,
we've criticized Aaron Rodgers for only winning one. We've criticized

(09:46):
Drew Brees for only winning one. We've criticized Sean Payton
for only winning one and having these opportunities. But it's
not about that for Aaron Rodgers. So for Aaron Rodgers
to go in and have a nice season and enjoy
the season and enjoy being around Mike Tomlin and winning
games and playing football, that's okay. Like, that's okay. If
he wants to go to Minnesota and maybe try to

(10:07):
stick it to the pack again, I don't know. I
don't know Packer fans would feel about that, or if
he just feels the situation is better, Maybe he wants
to throw to better wide receivers, feels maybe offensively he
could do more in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Look at that option. That's okay too.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Do we think the Vikings are gonna win the Super
Bowl next year if they have Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
So this is this is all okay.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
If Aaron Rodgers wants to do to do that, and
I actually feel it's refreshing. I didn't think he was
gonna come back next year, but for how well and
I use air quotes that things have gone with Pittsburgh
and they haven't even won the Division of clinch to
playoff Berth, I think there's enough there for Rogers to
be like, yeah, I could probably do this for another
go around.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I also think if he does come back, I
think it's more likely it would be Pittsburgh. I think
he's comfortable there and that's if you know, if he's
if he decides he wants to come back or they
and he decides that's that's how he wants to play
this thing out, I think it would be Pittsburgh. I
also think that the best thing that happened for his

(11:06):
relationship with the Packers was his time with the Jets,
because I think he realized, oh god, like it wasn't
bad at all, Like whatever their decision to, you know,
did Jordan love stuff and all that. Like, I think
he he was chasing something similar to Green Bay, and
I think he's gotten it in Pittsburgh because there's a
lot of similarities between the two organizations. The history, the tradition,

(11:31):
the consistency, like much like we see the Packers and
you know, they've had three quote unquote, you know, franchise
quarterbacks in you know, thirty five years or whatever it is.
Steelers have had three coaches in sixty years. Like, I
think there's a lot of similarities between the two. And
I think the Jets being such a vomit bucket, I
think made him appreciate his time in Green Bay even

(11:53):
more so than he did before. And I think he
found a lot of the similarities in Pittsburgh. And I
think that you're right about that.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And so he had the line, if can we play
it again, Mark, I can we play Aaron Rodgers again?
Because there was a line that he said that I
think stands down. There's a reason why I brought up
the Vikings. But let's hear Aaron Rodgers yesterday again.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
I mean, I'm thinking about this week. But obviously I'm
forty two years old and I'm on a one year deal,
so you know what the situation is. Whenever the season ends,
I'll be a free agent, so that will give me
a lot of options if I still want to play.
I'm in a lot of options, but there'll be options.
I would think maybe one or two if I decide
I still want to play.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
So there that last part like not a lot of
options that he laughs, He's like, well, not a lot,
but maybe one or two. And I think, like Minnesota
is an opportunity. And your point about him appreciating Green Bay,
I think it's true in the sense of I think
he may also appreciate a little more Mike McCarthy at
Matt Lafleur because of his relationship with Mike Tomlin and

(12:57):
how good it's been. And I think that right may
look and this is just me guessing, but he really
respects Mike Tomlin, like there's no doubt, like there's no
different But Mike Tomlin isn't an offensive guy. And Aaron
Rodgers loves to be the smartest guy in the room,
and that includes.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
If the head coach is there or not.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So if it's Mike McCarthy where there was some budding
of heads and Matt Lafleur where there was some frustrations,
Rogers had his way, and I wonder if he's now like,
you know what, after going through the Jets crap, I
really respect Mike Tomlin. How can you not respect what
Kevin O'Connell has done. I think Kevin O'Connell's beloved by
everyone like that, that would be an option for him

(13:38):
that maybe because of how things went so bad for
the Jets, he's like, Okay, maybe now.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I do want to play.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Maybe I would go about this differently working with a
head coach who is so offensive minded. So I think,
if I'm reading between the lines, that's what I'm reading
between the lines. Is his one or two options as
a free agent would be other teams. Otherwise he would
just end up retiring.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And I mean, you know, I think I don't know
if you want to apologize now or if you want
to do it later, but like to just to disrespect
nine like that in.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
The years, I just think I apologize to nine, not
to JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, that's fine, only to nine. We'll split the difference,
that's fine. I just you know, I think it's pretty disrespectful.
I mean, we open up the year and you're just
like throwing shade at the guy. I mean, he's out there.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
What year is it? Nine? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Why don't they drop a nine? Why was everybody who
wearing twenty twenty six classes? I thought this was the
year of nine.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like what's just the most absurd thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I call him nine.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh you do.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
We're glad you call him that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We'd like to call your name when we're doing a game,
that's what we'd like to call.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So who thought that was a good idea?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Who thought that was a good idea?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
But but yeah, I would say the same teams that
were rumored to have interest in Rogers, if it's not Pittsburgh,
are going to be the same teams this offseason. Like
I think Minnesota would be one. God, maybe that's it.
Like there was conversations about, you know, maybe San Francisco,

(15:09):
but I think that that ship is sailed.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Clearly.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
The Raiders would be interesting only because there would I
think there's going to be a new coach there.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
But you also, number one, I don't think some gud so, well,
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
What's going on with the rain? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
The worst the worst team in the league has played
the fewest rookie snaps of any team in the league.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, they fired Chip Kelly, they got too Dad, you
know what you're talking.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Things are good when sixty seven percent of your coordinators
are fired, but one hundred percent of your kids stay
on staff.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know what you know, it's you know, I threw
out this proposal.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, I had this idea for Raider fans.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I don't know if you sign in on this, but
you know, when everyone's talking about like what the Raiders
should do in the draft, I think there should be
another draft, and I think we do a big event.
I think you open up, it's at Allegiate Stadium. You're
going to sell it out. You open up with a
performance by the Blue Man Group. Then you have a
bunch of fat fake Elvis's come out in Act two

(16:04):
and Act three. The main event is Raider fans get
to draft a new team. And I think if you
really want to do something for the fan base to
get excited, tell him to get off Tankathon. Okay stop,
you know, like like literally like Raider fans have spent
time on Pornhub and Tankathon in the last three weeks.
Like that that's been that's been their algorithm and their

(16:25):
search history. Let it go because whoever it is isn't
going to fix that disaster that is the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's like Fernando Mendoza is not going to fix the Raiders.
Like I'm sorry, I know everyone thinks this is like,
this is the case. It's just not going to happen.
So maybe Rogers to the Raiders could be a possible.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
There was a point this year we thought the biggest
issue with the Raiders was that Tom Brady was in
the coaches group.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
You have a tuxedo on.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
He's giving up inside information.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
He literally looked like he showed up late for his
kids recital, like in his work clothes and just like
sat like so.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I was in the bag the whole time I saw it.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'm here, oh man.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
That at the time we thought was the worst thing
that could happen with the Raiders this season. By the way,
and they played more football games. I had a buddy
try and pull that move. I had a buddy tried
to pull that move. My awful band back of the day.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We were playing a show at the Whiskey of Go Go,
and I had my buddy who was like, uh, I
come down off stage and he's like, he's.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Like, hey, man, it's all do great show man. That
was an awesome show. I was like, yeah, you like him,
So what's your favorite part? So dude, all of it, man,
you guys rocked. I was like, yeah, all of it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's like, hey, man, I saw you just walk up
through the side, like where they're literally offloading equipment on
from the stage for the next band to come up.
I saw you just walk down. He goes, Yeah, sorry, man,
I you know, I thought I didn't know. I forgot
what time it was. So yeah, that's fine, man, Like,
if you paid your ten bucks, it's cool. Oh, y
got our money, gave you the lebron Jains. It's your

(17:58):
favorite line, all of them?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, single one, Yeah, every single line is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But yeah, so Aaron Rodgers, who knows could be could
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Speaker 1 (18:25):
My favorite thing, well it's not my favorite thing, but
when we work in broadcasting, we work in this audio medium.
We've added video and so you'll see jonas, you'll see
our hosts, and nobody's wearing suit and ties right and
behind the scenes, I mean Mark Scott his white sox
cap on, Patrick scott is seahawk sweatshirt on. It's pretty

(18:49):
pretty lax when somebody comes here in a suit, like
Tom Brady showed up at work. Yeah. The greatest thing
is because it's a two part play. The first part
is is somebody gets oh looking sharp, and then the following,
without fail, is I just came from a funeral.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
So that that's that's what it is. It's never.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's never like people always want to be like a
job interview, like you're leaving us, and it's like, no,
someone near to me died and so I but I
had to leave that. I had to leave the morning
to come here and edit Raptors next. So that's that
happened actually with the coworker here. Ye know, it does.
It happens all the time. I came in one day
with a slacks and a shirt like, oh, Dan's looking good. Yeah,

(19:33):
I got to bury someone four hours later, like this
is this is this is why I'm wearing this. Otherwise
I'd just be wearing a cap and shorts.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, can you can you can you help me there?
Over on Dickens right now, you're gonna take it over.
It's like he is the hearse is over there.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Never guess like, oh, looking sharp, but where are you headed?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Just to the uh the cemetery two.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Miles up the road. That's where I'm headed.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's what happened. Yes, I'm like, hey, man, you look
great because it came from a funeral.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, that's the only reason why no one's no one
has left the wedding to go to work. Just doesn't happen.
You know what you take off for the wedding, you
go to the funeral, either before or after.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's truly what it is.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, so, and I think that can work in a
lot of lines of work as well.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah.

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(20:39):
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Speaker 1 (21:46):
Where are your galoshes? If you're heading to the Granddaddy
of them all? If you're sitting out a curb in Pasadena,
kudos to you for sitting in a downpour during the
Rose Parade.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think Kirk Curve Street is living a lie, and
I just like to point this out. I just figured
something out during the break. So we're making because it's
pouring out here for those of you listening across the country,
just pouring in southern California, still pouring. The Rose Bull
kicks off in four hours, four and a half hours.
Kirk Curve Street is on apparatus number three, and he

(22:25):
started off with a blue towel because apparently they decided
they were just going to put those guys in the
rain because it makes for good TV. So Kirk Curve
Street was started off with a towel. Then he changed
to a white hat, and then he's got this what
we thought was a Rose Bull hat, and upon further review,
I believe it's a Melon hat, which is a brand
a hat company.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Good guys.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I have known those guys or have gotten melon hats
for a long time, but he put a Rose Bowl
logo on the logo of the melon hat, and I'm
almost positive there are no melon rose bull hats.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I'm almost really positive.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
If you don't think they have a side deal with
the Rose will be the official Patrick Stadium Rose Bowl hat.
So what you're saying is that Herb Street probably saw
that there was a fifty sixty dollars hat at the
at the memorabilia spot, said well, I got a hat
in my bag, but it doesn't have Rose Bowl. How

(23:19):
about I buy this pin for eighteen dollars and put
it on my hat and wear it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Either that's what it is, Either that or you got
it from Rob Parker. Yes, one of the two.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean goes By.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, no, it does say odd couple on the side
MLB bro.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Because you need to know.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh that goes Kirkirbstreet stalks Yael it By again back
in the raft.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh oh my god.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well, it's tough to play fetch when you're in an inflatable,
but they're figuring out a way.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
To do so.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
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you credit for something, Dan that I was unaware of.

(24:11):
I didn't realize it was a thing. Sure, absolutely so.
You and I have worked together for a long time,
I think fifteen years at this point, sixteen years.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Long ass time.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I remember having conversations with you about the Rose
Bowl and you telling me about you know, the two
o'clock kickoff, you know two o'clock kickoff, you know four
o'clock Central time.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
You know there's and I.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And growing up out here in southern California, I never
realized that that was truly a thing. It's just sort
of you kind of take it for granted. It's two o'clock.
What's a big deal, Like it's two in the ET's
It's like a random middle of the daytime, what's a
big deal. But I didn't realize to other parts of
the country. That was really part of the appeal was

(24:56):
you got to see the San Gabriel Mountains. You got
to see and it's beautiful. Like if you're like, just like,
it's not made up, it's not. I mean, you won't
be able to see him today, but it's like the
whole presentation is really what the Rose Bowl is about.
And being out here in southern California, you're so close
to it that you don't have a far away view
of it all. And I say all that to say this,

(25:20):
the game will be kicking off at one o'clock today.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yes, so those days are.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Over change and it's a big It is a big
change because the transition period from the third quarter to
the fourth quarter, while it's not exact, it was always
about the time that the sun would be shining on
the San Gabriel Mountains, so you would see a great,
great view. So you're you're going from a game that

(25:44):
starts in daylight, that goes in into sunsets into dusk,
and then ends under the lights. And that's what you
would have for southern California and jonass perspective, but for
people like us in the Midwest. And the reason why
it's a big deal. Is because because the Big ten,
Pac twelve, Pac ten, however far back you want to
go relationship with the Rose Bowl. It's January one, most

(26:09):
places are under snow or it's frigid, and to see
a game as your day is about to turn to
night in what was a very short day, because the
sun sets anywhere between four and four thirty depending on
where you are. In a lot of places, the sun
is starting to set and it's starting to get dark

(26:30):
while this game is in bast and sunshine just flooded
with sun and the rays. And you're sitting there and
it's June one in the Midwest looking out at a
snowbank outside your living room window, and it was this.
It was a magical place. It was a place that
you would always I got to be there. Someday, I've

(26:52):
got to go there. But that's kind of the I guess,
dichotomy between the two when you had Big ten against
Pac twelve, because most of the Big ten country was
under a foot of snow with single degree temperatures as
they're watching the Rose Bull.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
It was just something I had never really thought of
from that perspective.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
And then when you laid it out.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's part of the reason why I like watching Hawaii games,
if I'm being honest, I like the idea of especially
early in the season.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's like, well, the game kicks off at nine.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And it's it looks like it's two in the afternoon
at Hawaii, And I just remember watching a Loha stadium,
and I remember watching the Pro Bowl at a Loha
stadium and being like same thing, like, man, I want
to go there. One day I got to be there,
and then being able to get there and realizing, how's.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
This place still standing? Yeah, well, what do anybody get?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm how do we get? So this is the media elevator,
Like all we're all taking the same one. You mean,
the guy delivering the big waves upstairs, Like I'm taking
a cell. Okay, fair enough, But so I when you
take a step back and you sort of look at it.
It wasn't until I had that conversation with somebody who
grew up watching the game from a different part of
the country that that was really the appeal, Like that

(28:03):
was really what this was all about. And I'm sorry,
and I know that it's this whole adapt or dye
thing and I get all that, but I just think
there's certain traditions that you just don't really need to
mess with, Like you don't really have to do. It's
why you know, the USC Notre Dame rivalry coming to
an end is sad because it's like, man, that's been

(28:25):
like what since the forties, that's.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Been going on.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Think about last night, Jonas, Like, we have a cotton
Bowl that doesn't even bother to color in the full
end zones and they're playing at a stadium when the
Cotton Bowl is you know, fifteen miles away. Again, there
is a Cotton Bowl, which, by the way, they've done
a bunch of renovations to But Jerry Jones is going
to have the Cotton Bowl in his stadium, a blah

(28:50):
stadium that looks just like everything else. The Orange Bowl
is now the home to where the Marlins plays. That's
been torn down, so they've been playing it, you know,
at hard Rock Stadium, whatever it's it's called now, that's
where the Orange Bowl is. Like the Rose Bowl is
being played at the Rose Bowl, Like there is there
is a reason on why it's special. Watch the games
today tell us which ones resonate the most. Even though

(29:12):
the Orange Bowl may have the best field. It's the
it's the feel of the Rose Bowl that is different.
I went back and looked at bowl games because when
I grew up Jonas for some reason, like my bowl
game Memoris was it was the Hall of Fame game,
but it was Outback Bowl, Citrus Bowl, Gator Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Would be playing early.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
You would maybe play the Fiesta Bowl opposite the Rose Bowl.
You'd have the Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl at night.
That was my schedule of New Year's Day of games.
And I went back and looked and there was a
period of time in the nineteen eighties where the Fiesta
Bowl was the lead in because the Rose Bowl was
on NBC. So the Fiesta Bowl in Arizona starting at
like ten am. It's like crazy like stuff that I
don't remember. But you know what didn't change the time

(29:55):
of the Rose Bowl. Everything else moved around, but the
Rose Bull didn't. I know that probably brought animosity with
other bulls, but the other bulls aren't the Rose Bowl.
The Rose Bull has has a right to kind of
stand on their laurels to say this is the history,
because that's what we all love. We talk about Kirk
Kurbstreet and I've seen him I've seen Joel Klatt people

(30:17):
are wearing Rose Bowl hats. Have you ever walked around
you know? And I love the sun Ball. I've never
seen anything like cool sun ball hat, like never never
he has the ball hat.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Never seen one aa Vlara bowl.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah right right.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
And I'm not talking I'm not talking about Arizona State
at the Sunball. I'm talking about just a Sunball hat
like these are just Rose Bowl hats with a rose
on like there is there is something to that. So
changing the kickoff actually is a big deal. It's a
big deal for a lot of people. And it stinks
that the Rose bul has to kind of bend the
knee to college football. The point of putting the Rose

(30:53):
Bowl as the national championship game, well you maybe wouldn't
have the Sunset jonas that we would have liked. It
may be the best option. Maybe there'd be a way
if it stays the way that it does instead of
playing it on New Year's Day, Sunset's a little bit
later on in January, you kick off at sunset. Maybe
that ends up being the look. But I'm telling you,
there is something about it, and when while it's different,

(31:15):
it's still a higher More people would rather go to
the Rose Bowl than any of the other Bulls combined
if their team was not playing in it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, And I would also say this. I do like
Mother Nature being like, oh, you're going.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
To hour earlier. You guys are kicking off.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Cool, suck on this. I got something for you, and
just pours the entire time here.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Have fun. Have fun. Guys.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You want to mess with the kickoff of the Rose bull,
We're gonna dump on you. You're not getting your sunset,
You're not getting the San Gabriel Mountains. You're lucky we
let this game be played.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
If there's a wager right now at some sports book
on whether or not somebody gets struck by lightning in
the Rose Bowl, today will be the day. And you
know what, guess who you blame for it. ESPN's who
you playing for it, because they're the ones who are
behind this whole concocting of games being moved around at
different times.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
It'll be between the one and two o'clock at our
local right, shout have been played.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Right at two o'clock. By the way, lightning bolt from
the heavens.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
By the way, they just showed an aerial shot with
the sun shining on the mountains with Oregon and Ohio
state in the end zone. So they've had these last
year's footage because of the crappy weather Southern California's had
over the last week or two.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
By the way, do we have an update on the
rose bowl melon hat? Are there actually melon rose bull hats?
Or did Kirk Curve Street steal a decal from somewhere
put it on the hat to try and claim that
he has a rose bull hat.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
He definitely stole in all that stuff. It's definitely option
B because all the hats I'm seeing is just a
It's a blue one, like a UCLA blue one, a
USC red one, and then a black one and none
of which look anywhere close to anything that he's wearing.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Well, Jonas's hat is grey, Like it looks similar to
the one that Jonas is wearing right now.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean this the let me ask you, is the
white with the rose on it? Is that the one
that clad had?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, Like that's like the longs.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
A melon hat.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Al Right, Well, maybe they maybe do they do? Some
of them exist. Maybe Joe Klatt's got more stroke than
than Kirk Curve Street. Maybe there's that. So look, you know,
I'm a big fan just and just a rose on
it too.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It is a sweet look.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Nobody's nobody's putting sugar packets in their mouth when they
get to go to the Sugar Bowl, Like that's not happening,
like maybe we should. Nobody's nobody's taking orange, like people
are putting the rows in their mouth when they get
to go to the Rose Bowl or win the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
When you think if I were to give you like
a bowl game, could you think of one player from
your memory of that bowl game?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
All right?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Maybe putting me on the spot, like Rose Bowl. First
player that comes to mind, Ron Dyane. Okay, that's that's fair.
Peach Bowl.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
First person that comes to mind, because you mentioned the
Cotton Bowl. And I don't even know if this guy
played in the Cotton Bowl, but for whatever reason, you
say Cotton Bowl, and the first name that comes to
mind is Major apple White, and.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I, oh, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I don't actually know if he ever played in a
Cotton Bowl, but that's just my association with the Cotton Bowl.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, I gosh, Peach Bowl would be tough.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's kind of a funky Bowl because it wasn't a
big time bowl and then it became a big time
like Cotton Well, Chris Pielman for Ohio State had a
great Cotton Bowl against Texas A and M in the
nineteen eighties.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Out Back Bowl bluemin Onion, the the Outback Bowl.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think Zach Dumas from Ohio State lit up an
Auburn player, believe it, because that was the Hall of
Fame Bowl at that point.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
But Outback Bull Clowney yeh rightah.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, And by the way, that's that's pretty much all
he did that game, Like he got I think Taylor
the Wan all a tackle he was going against from Michigan,
and I think Taylor Lwan had had a really good
day that day against Jademian Clowney.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
But yept on the one play, yep, uh.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, it is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Dan Byer. I'm Jonas Knox in for
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Speaker 6 (35:11):
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Speaker 1 (35:22):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
It seems like that's maybe not supposed to be there,
but I think it's good. You know, let people know.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Catch you Brady Quinn LaVar Arrington weekday mornings, six o'clock Eastern,
three am Pacific.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Just not in this time slot. Yeah, not this one. No, yeah, yeah,
the earlier one.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
But hey, to the to the victor, go the spoil
it is. It is your day, just like yesterday was
Gary Danielson's day. The sun Ball was a great game
between Arizona State and Duke. By the way, That's a
game that I would like to go to because I
love how El Paso just embraces the game. Sometimes it
can get chilly there. Their field looked magnificent, full end

(36:24):
zones colored, none of this insert Rose Bowl stuff that
they've been doing for the last twenty years. Just again,
fill out the whole end zone. Will you bright orange
of Arizona State contrasting with the beautiful blue of Duke
in the end zone. The sun Ball is one of
my favorites in New Year's Eve tradition.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
What were they jumping into, by.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
The way, was this frost and flakes? Yeah? Torn of
the Tiger.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, they look like those peanut butter filled pretzels. It
did not look like frost.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
That's what I thought, that's what they were.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, they did a dump on Manny Diaz, the Duke
head coach, but overshadowed in the in the win.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Of course. The Sun Bowl. The reason why I love
it is it's the only bowl game.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
CBS has, like every other Bowl games on ESPN, and
you's like, you know, Holiday Bowls on Fox, but it
just gets it really gets old when it's just the
same network. So CBS Top crew, even if it's Arizona
State against Duke and the Top Cruise. Brad Nesler and
Gary Danielson and Gary Danielson signed off from his broadcasting career,
retiring yesterday after thirty six seasons as a broadcaster after

(37:24):
an NFL career, And this is how we signed off
on CBS in his final broadcast.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
And everybody else I wanted everybody else in this shot
saying goodbye.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's been team all the way, everything we've done.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Great camera crew.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yes, we're all wearing Gary stickers.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
There's a trikes you guys, as Vern would have said,
appreciate it all.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yes, sir, Yes sir. We are going to have a
great time tonight. Look at those guys. How are we
going to get off?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
There?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Listen?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
One more thing.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
It's sometimes you can say, how do you get off?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
This guy right here?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Killing house?

Speaker 9 (38:01):
Hardy the herdbreak, got Grrit Danielson, Bird Chrystcher.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Who's the first name? They say?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Hardy?

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Hardy?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, okay, and not Hardy's got us say Hardy?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
All right, very good position.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So earlier we heard what great speeches like the one
Pat Bowlan made for the Denver Broncos when they won
Super Bowl thirty two and John Elway finally got a
Super Bowl title. We heard what that would have been
like on CBS. We also heard what Kevin Durant's MVP
speech an ode to his mother. We played how that

(38:42):
would have sounded on CBS. Let's take some other moments, Jonas,
like remember the night that we captured Osama bin Laden.
Oh yeah, imagine if that was on CBS.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
Good evening tonight, I can report to the American people
and to the world that the United States has conducted
an operation that killed Osama.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Ba joined hosts.

Speaker 10 (39:06):
Handy and Bird Kreischer, along with Jason Aldeing, Lady Wilson, Bailey, Zimmerman,
and more the country's biggest names. One massive night.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
The countdown is on. They captured and killed. That's how believable.
I didn't know who's wanting man, what did he do?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I get like they could have like the heartbreak that
Danielson ran into like there wasn't like the d like
the CBS sounder.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, no, no, no, Why would you no? Why would you
not even CSI like that? Why would you?

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Buckle up, We're going straight straight into it. There are
the other great speeches, uh, not only in Gosh Test
of time. I think maybe the most famous speech in
sports was done by the late great lu gerrig Absolutely
imagine if it was on CBS for the past.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Two weeks you've been reading about it.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Today. I consider myself.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
Joined Hunks's Honey and Her Crusher, along with Jason Albanek,
Lady Wilson, Bailey Zimmerman.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
A lot this one mat CBS.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Okay, the counting is like, hey, Bratt Nessler, what you
hold your partner out? For God's sake. The lady's counting
down right in your face. Nobody take a cue.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
There is an inside media to that, like Nessler's been
counted down his entire career. Danielson just rode shotgun. So
the one time they're counting Danielson and if you watch
the video and I tweeted it earlier, you can see
the sendoff and how it It wasn't really nice send off.
It just happened to end abruptly with a year's Eve

(41:00):
Rock and Eve promo. But you see the woman counting
down and she's like five four, and so you know
it's about to happen, and then he goes in this
guy and then boom, just your magic, your magic.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I mean well.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Maybe uh maybe Gary's replacement is Hardy, like maybe like
maybe that's.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
So now that rotating right, yes, so so now that
might explain things a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Bailey Zimmerman here live for Penn State, Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like you know, you know what I have noticed though
the longer I've done this, like we have this clock
in our head to where if you were to tell
me at any random point of the day, uh, you
got to you gotta say something in ten seconds. We're
so used to it now because we've been counted down
for so long doing radio that I could do it,
like literally anything I could count out, like I could,

(41:51):
I could get a message out in ten seconds, like
I mean only in English at home, like that's it's
not happening anywhere. But I just I know that claw,
So I would have assumed that them there probably wouldn't
have even needed the countdown, but still they went to it,
just in case, just in case.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
And now last.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Weekend, I knew the Titanic was sinking when he said
one more thing like like like oh this is this
is not going to end.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Well, yeah, it's sad, it's sad, but a great career absolutely,
and it's been fun hanging out with you Dad.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Absolutely the hell of a start.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Happy twenty twenty six, yeah or nine, Joy the roads
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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