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September 8, 2025 41 mins

Dan weighs in on Aaron Rodgers’ debut with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Hall of Fame TE Tony Gonzalez drops by to talk about the evolving attitudes in the NFL and the focus on personal conduct.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hour, Final Hour on this Monday. By the way, I misspoke.
That was a third quarter touchdown that the fan was
smacking DeAndre Hopkins helmet and also Lamar Jackson, and Jackson
then shoved the fan, and Lamar had this to say
after the game about that incident in the third quarter.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Ye I've seen him slap the hot but you know,
I wasn't really he slapping me and he's saying he talking,
so I you know, I just forgot who I was
for a little bit, you know. But you know, you
gotta you gotta think in those situations. You know, it
got security out there. Let's security to handle.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
It, you know.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
But I did that.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Let my musa get the best of me.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
But hopefully it don't happen again.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
You know, I learned from that.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So that's third quarter and uh, him reacting to that
or being asked to respond to his reaction to that fan.
All right, Final Hour, Tony Gonzales hal Famora will stop
buying a little bit. Sunday Night, JJ McCarthy makes his
Sunday Night debut. How about that didn't take a snap
his first year got hurt. Now he opens up on

(01:11):
Monday night and then his next game is on Sunday night.
So much about easing into the season. It'll be uh
Sunday Night. JJ McCarthy and the Vikings hosting Michael Pennix
Junior the Third and the Falcons seven Eastern on NBC
and Peacock. All right, what do you have for me?
Seaton with poll question? And do we have a new

(01:32):
one for the final hour of the program?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
We do, we do, and we do? Okay, okay, okay,
biggest perception boost of the weekend? Okay, Aaron Rodgers. How
about the Chargers? How about the Packers? How about Daniel Jones? Okay,
all right, Daniel Jones?

Speaker 7 (01:57):
That was big. That was big. Rogers didn't surprise me,
he didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm like, maybe not you. Oh well, but if I'm
giving my opinion, then.

Speaker 8 (02:12):
I guess what I'm saying is a lot of people
in the sports media felt like they were expecting the
Steelers to underwhelm with him, with him.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
Specifically, well, I think there's a lot of different biases
at State, you know, in place here.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think there's a lot of people who don't like
Aaron Rodgers. I think you got to separate who Aaron
Rodgers is off the field as opposed to who he
is on the field.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
I still think.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
That if he has protection, he throws the ball as
well as he ever did. He's not going to be
making those throws on the run the way he once did.
But he can still throw the football. He still understands
how to play the game. And I wasn't surprised. I
mean four touchdowns, now, I didn't expect that, but I

(02:58):
did think, and I do think. I think is over
unders like twenty three touchdowns this year. I mean it
might be twenty three and eight or something like that,
which they aren't great numbers, but if you have a
balanced attack and a good defense and you make the playoffs, yes, Todd.

Speaker 9 (03:19):
From that group, I feel like a two full touchdown
lead against the division rival, that Packers twenty seven to thirteen.
Of that group, that seems like the number one answer
to me.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
Yeah, I thought the Packers.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's one of those Oh okay, that they won.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
I'm not surprised how they won.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I was surprised and how inept Detroit's offensive line looked.
I mean, no running game, really, no imagination on offense.
That one stood out. Rodgers didn't stand out. Danny Dimes,
I'm in the minority. I think the Colts are going
to be on the doorstep of a playoff appearance. I

(04:00):
think his whole thing is as long as he doesn't
make stupid mistakes. And it always felt like he was
gonna fumble or like he was doing something. And you
know that had such an impact on the Giants, and
then you get rid of Saquon Barkley. By the way,
Saquon Barkley, Randy Moss, and Bill Murray are going to
be on tonight's Manning caston Randy uh and great story

(04:27):
with Randy ring the bell with cancer treatment and Bill
Murray won't be on there as well.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
So that's the Manning Cast coming up tonight. What else
do you have seton?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Let's see what else do we have here? Let me
update you the other results. Okay, just give me one moment.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, all right, And we're having technical difficulties we are
with our phone lines. I'm not sure if they're working yet.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
The most inspirational loss right now is the Jets Steelers,
although there are people who very much disagree there's anything
inspirational about that loss. The team that had the worst
weekends of Dolphins and Gators are running away with that
one for sure.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know what to expect from JJ McCarthy tonight.
And it feels like it's a mixed bag of those
covering the team reporters and giving you their thoughts.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
That are the vikings kind of propping him up here.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's see, are they gonna keep it kind of vanilla
neutral for him? You're on the road starting your NFL career.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, seton, I was watching this sort of a side
topic and a complete left turn from what you're talking about.
But I was watching more closely than ever on the
sidelines to see if I spotted any smelling salts.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Oh, I didn't see any, though.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I wonder if there's been a league directive to say, like,
let's try not to catch those.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
It's BYO salts, Yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
It is BYO salts, which means that there were people
byoing their own salts. But I I didn't catch too
many though. Well, they're probably not being front and center.
This might be where you're a little more discreet. Yeah,
you're in the alleyway and you're what are you doing there?
Smelling salts?

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:13):
Go Friday night at the bar.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, let me let me slip out sign here, Yeah,
pull mixed reports.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
Whether Matt Prayer or the kicker for the Bills salted
up before his final.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Kick, He's on the salts.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
But again, not illegal, not performance enhancing, illegal performances.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
If it's meant to cover up concussions with some players,
he's a kicker. But why does the NFL allow it?
Shouldn't they just say no, you can't use smelling salts.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
I want my kicker salted up? Yeah, I kind of
want them salted. Assault and battery focus, lad focus is important.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Salt me up, saw me up.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
But that was.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
The Buffalo Bill's the first team in NFL history to
overcome a deficit of fifteen or more points in the
final four minutes of a fourth quarter to win a
season opener.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
And that's a long winded way of giving you kind
of a stat of the day. Here's one for you.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Since two thousand, teams that are trailing by fifteen or
more points in the final four minutes of the fourth
quarter are three and two thousand, three hundred and twelve.

(07:32):
Brought to you by Banadi America, the official trading cards
of the program. And Mike Coles scored on all seven
offensive possessions, the first NFL team since nineteen seventy eight
to score on every offensive possession of a game.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
They didn't punt, didn't punt, Like, you can lose a game.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
If you're Miami, you can lose a game and say, okay,
some positives. Man, I don't know, I don't know what
the positives were. But that's one of those where you
immediately thought about Mike McDaniel and you go, he's not
going to make it, not going to make it. It's
one game, though, let me see what happens next weekend

(08:18):
at home against the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, Seaton, it is kind of odd speaking people getting
fired and whatnot. Aaron Rodgers. I love what he said. Yeah,
but it is kind of odd that he spent two
years there. He got their coaching gm fired, he made
the team sign all of his friends. Yeah, and then
he was just like, oh, yeah, by the way, they
totally screwed me and now I want to beat them,

(08:40):
and they kind of bent everything towards him.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
It didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
He got hurt, he got everybody canned, and he's like, yeah,
screw those guys.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, he did want to go back. What did what
he talking about? He did want to go back. He
met with Aaron Glenn face to face and Aaron Glenn said.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
No, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, they're not the right guy for a team.

Speaker 7 (09:00):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Okay, but at least he was trying to go back.
Here's another one for you, Aaron Rodgers, the first player
to throw four touchdown passes in his Steelers debut.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, PAULI going.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
Back to the Colts. Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end
out of Penn State. Remember that monster last year at
Penn State. Seven catches, seventy six yards and his debut.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yeah, nice player.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, but did you know Tyler Warren and Harold fannin
junior the third of the Browns, each had seven receptions,
the most receptions by a tight end in their first
NFL game since Buffalo's Keith McKellar had nine nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Who stell of a day?

Speaker 8 (09:49):
Start of a day, start outa day, scant out to day.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
This is the start of the day.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
He didn't know you were going to You got to Keith
McKellar's stat today, but you got one, yes, Paul.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
And for you only a bonus Keith McKellar's stat that
eighty seven season where he caught nine balls in his
rookie opener. He caught nine balls on the season. That
was it one and done one game.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Here's another one for you. Since twenty twenty three, the
Giants have had nine games in which they failed to
score an offensive touchdown, most in the NFL over that span. Wow,
that's hard to do in today's NFL where everything is
kind of been put in place for more scoring, and

(10:39):
you go nine games without scoring an offensive touchdown.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
That's not.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
Good.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Okay, Tony Gonzalez will join us.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
We did talk a little bit about college football with
Oregon over Oregon, Oklahoma State South Florida, and I think
South Florida is a good team. You know, should Florida
win that? Yeah, they probably should. Oklahoma over Michigan. I
don't know how good either one of those teams is,
but that's a game that Oklahoma has to win. And

(11:12):
Brent Venables we kept hearing, you know, he's defensive minded guy.
They did a good job with the Michigan kid. Underwood
and Mattier played really well. It was a fun game
to watch because there was there were many other games
to watch that were any good. I watched I think
three minutes of Ohio State against Grambling. I still think

(11:36):
they should let Grambling bring the band on the field
as well and play like they should be on the
field with you know, the the team simultaneous.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Yes, yes, yes, Martin.

Speaker 10 (11:48):
I think Oklahoma needed that win, just like Florida State
needed that win a week before against Alabama, because look,
after Lincoln Riley left. That's supposed to be a destination school,
not a school you leave to go somewhere else. So
I think that program got hurt after Lincoln Riley left.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
Yes, Todd Paul gave us a nice heads up. I
flipped over to SMU Baylor. That was on a fun
double overtime.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
But I think Baylor's beating SMU twelve times in a row.
I think I just tuned in to watch the game
winning field goal. I can't keep track. That was on
the CWU. Wasn't it the Home of Football?

Speaker 7 (12:21):
I can't even I.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Don't know where the CW is, but I think it
found me. They were just looking for viewers and I'm like, oh, hey,
there's a football game on. That's the way it should
be your TV. Should just find you the things that
you need. Yeah, Paulie, I had.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
A thought about this weekend. You know, how you come
down into your kitchen. What if it could sense which
person is walking into your whatever room and put on
your favorite TV shows like both turn your TV on
like lights and go right to your analytically most popular
TV show.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
No, because my wife did a drive by last night
in the basement, then it might change over to Dalton Abbey.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
And no, we're not doing that. I got I was
watching the game, but.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Sometimes she'll walk in and then she just doing a
drive by. But when she does.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
The who's playing?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Then I know then I'm explaining some things. Who's playing Buffalo?
And that that that's Baltimore? Okay, who's the team in
the blue? That's Buffalo?

Speaker 7 (13:23):
And and what what's the Ravens colors?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I go.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
Purple or something. And then she started asking questions have
you been to a game in Buffalo? Yes, yes I am.
What about Baltimore? Yes I have one?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
And then like my answers got shorter and shorter, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah, yes, Tom.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
He's trying to share the experience with you, so you're
not just you know, sitting there by your side.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
I'm fine with myself.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
If you want to contribute and be part of your evening.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I am fine with myself. I don't need any friends.
I don't need any companionship.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
What she's been with you long enough to know, like
she would never say something like I think it's ten
to sixteen the Buffalo or something like that. Well, giving
a low score first, or calling a team the Baltimore's.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, she did say that somebody was safe at home base,
and but you know, I'd look at this small little things.
We went to a tennis match Madison Square Garden, Virginia
Slims and Martina and Nevatulova ready to serve, and my
wife is talking during this no oh no oh yeah.

(14:30):
And that was one of my first dates with her.
Martina is throwing the ball up and we're we're courtside
and she's just talking. And then Martina and then looks
over at me and then I said, honey, you can't talk.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I said, because no one else is talking. I said,
you can whisper, but you can't talk. And she couldn't
understand that. She goes at other Why is it that
a football gamer, a baseball gamer, basketball game I'm allowed
to talk.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
I said, I don't know him, but you know, even golf,
you're not like you can't talk at golf. No, you can't.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But that was one of my first dates with my wife.
And I remember years later seeing Martina and I go,
I know you're not going to remember this, I said,
but and I told her the story.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
And she goes, and I.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Remember where you were sitting and you were seated, and
I said, you remember that? She goes, of course I do.
You're talking while I was serving. She was playing Hanuman Leakova.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Oh yes, yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
At least she got shushed by a legend though.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
I know, well she didn't even realize it. I did.
I got shushed. You know, my wife didn't sh I said,
they're talking, you can't talk?

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Why?

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Why?

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Thank you? Thank you missus Patrick.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah. I end up marrying her. Uh, okay, how about
we take a break. Tony Gonzales said, to join this big,
a little Hall of Famer once again, his big old
tight end or his young freshman, Like, why do we
keep saying that freshmen are always young and your tight

(16:13):
end is always a big old Uh? He found his
big old tight end down the field. Now that young freshman. Yes, Morman,
freshmen are always young.

Speaker 10 (16:21):
There was a sixty six year old freshman in one
of the marching bands I saw you, Yes, So they're
not always young.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, he was in the band I mean Tomato, Tomatow.
Let me take a break. We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Hey, what's up everybody?

Speaker 11 (16:44):
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Speaker 5 (16:51):
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(17:14):
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Speaker 7 (17:24):
Vikings of the Bears tonight.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Vikings are a slight favorite in JJ McCarthy's NFL debut.
He's Tony Gonzalez Hall of Famer and you can see
him Thursday Night Football on Prime.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
A fourth season of that.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
There'll be at Lambeau Thursday, the Packers hosting the Commanders
on September eleventh. Coverage begins on Thursday Night Football at
seven Eastern. Good to see again, Tony. Your second career
game was a Monday night game against Oakland.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Really, Oh yeah, yeah, I remember, now, yeh.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Do you remember about that?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
I remember.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
The game winning touchdown thrown by Elvis kurback over the top.
We thought the game was all We thought we're gonna lose,
and then he hit it over the top to Andrea
bad Moon Rising and we uh and we won. And
I remember going, what the hell that was crazy?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (18:21):
Were the Raiders nasty back then? Was that old school Raiders?

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Oh? Yeah, Well, the whole NFL was back back then then.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
I mean, you go the rules and everybody, I'm sure
every old head that comes on your show talks about it.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
It's a different game than what it was back then.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Uh, where you go across the middle, where they were
aiming at your head and trying to knock you out
of the game. That was that was a different part
of the game. But uh, but yeah, the rivalry is
still real.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Was there a guy on the Raiders who made you nervous?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (18:52):
No, no, no, not that I can remember.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
My guy back then that I classed with was Bill Romanowski.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
That that was.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
I couldn't stand him. I still can't. I still can't
thinking back. But that's that old school football. That that
that uh, you know, the dirty tactics, uh, dirty cheap plays.
Spitting into your face, that's all the old spinning thing.
I'm like, I've been spitting the face. That's happened to
me in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
Who's spitting your face?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I don't know the name, but I've I've I've had
it twice where somebody spit on me. One time spit
in my face and then another time spit on my
shoulder pad uh And I can't remember the guys who
did it. I remember going nuts, going crazy, trying to
fight him, and I think, yeah, we did get into
a little fight, I believe, But but yeah, not that.

(19:44):
Don't get me wrong to it wasn't that common. But
but it's happened.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
What did Romanowski do to you.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Uh the punch, the punch into the jaw after the play,
get your tackle going out of bouncing him, coming diving
at your knees, hit the hit the Uh yeah, a
lot a lot of talking trash to your face, uh,
telling you, yeah, all all this difference, and a lot
of holding the guy.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
It wasn't. He wasn't. I didn't think he was very good,
but just a lot of rage going on there.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
I'm sure that was brought on by other stuff that
he was injecting in himself back then.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Uh that brought rage on.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Uh So, Yeah, I didn't particularly care for him too much.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Trying to ruin people's careers, is it?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
What's the game that you're you're overreacting to the result
of what happened this weekend, that you either overreacting in
a positive or a negative way.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Overacting?

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Uh, I'm and it's probably you're probably gonna see it
this week on our on our game.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
I think maybe I'm overreacting. But the Packers look like
a super Bowl team. You know, if you before the
trade with Micah, I would say I would have had
that as the fourth best team in the NFC. And
after this weekend and seeing what they could build off of.
I mean, there is no doubt in my mind at

(21:09):
this point. I don't see them a reason why they
can't beat Philly. I think for sure they have the
firepower and it all comes down to Love. I mean,
people talk about Micah that they're set on defense now
if nobody gets hurt. But if Jordan Love can play
like he did this past weekend with all the weapons,
and they're the youngest team in the NFL, their window

(21:30):
is wide open and I'm looking at them. I'm very
excited to watch them playing person this week. They look
like the best team in the league, or at least
the top two team in the league.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
What is it like though, to be on offense and
there's that disruptor on defense that when you go to
the line of scrimmage you have to account for him.
How often did that happen when you were playing? And
who were some of those guys?

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, I mean DeMarcus where I played with a great
guy named Derek Thomas.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Uh I play against Reggie White, Julius Peppers. You play
against these guys that that Michael Strahan, that that can closers,
they call him closers.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
And I like, look at it. Last night's game.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
I was talking about a good buddy I used to
play with, Billy Baber He we were talking about the game,
uh with with the Bills and the Ravens. And at
the end of the game, you're like, who is the
closer on both their teams? And I'm and I'm thinking
to myself, that's what's probably gonna hurt this team once
you get to like the playoffs. Uh, who's a guy

(22:34):
and go get you a sack when the game is
on the line at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Chris Jones type guy. Uh And and I don't know
if they.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Have one, at least I haven't seen that type of guy.
And where the Packers they have that guy now? And
so that's why once they get close games they can
run the ball with Josh Jacobs and they got a
closer on the other side of the ball now to
go along with all that other talent. That's that what
what what a really what I really like about it
makes him so dangerous to me.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Talking to Tony Gunzalez, the Hall of Famer, who is
the greatest tight end in Kansas City history.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Kansas City history, I don't know give me a couple
of options, Me a couple of options.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
There you Okay? Who else?

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Kelsey?

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Uh, I think we both have staked our claim. I
know he's the He's the most charismatic tight end and in.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
H I love I love, I love him the death.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
I mean, I think what he's done for that position
on and off the field. But he's he's my guy,
and we both did well, uh, with with what we had,
and he certainly is balling out with him and Patrick
they have that connection and and it'll it's gonna be
tough to duplicate for anybody going forward.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
So who's the best tight end in Kansas City history?

Speaker 11 (23:52):
Well?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I always give this answer.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Uh if if you say politically speaking, uh, you're gonna say,
you know you could choose, But confidently speaking the way
I look at myself, and I think any great player
looks at themselves when they walk out on that field,
you gotta look at yourself like you the baddest m effort.
You have a walk around on a damn foot, put
on a paraclet. And so when I walked in that field,

(24:15):
there was nobody that can guard me. I'm gonna get
open every time throw it to me.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
If you put me with with.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
With Peyton, Manny you or Tom Brady, watch.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Out the numbers I did put up. They would have
been better. They would have been better.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, imagine if you had a steady quarterback.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, nothing because the guys I played with. But
I mean, it is what we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
You know, you play with a guy like like Tom
or Peyton, it changes things, or Aaron, it changes things.
You wonder why the best receivers have usually they played
with Hall of Fame time quarterbacks. The Hall of Fame
receivers played with Hall of Fame quarterbacks, so an vice versa.
It goes both ways.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
But you know it. I know this.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I gave everything I gott and I put up. I
did some good stuff. I just wish I would have
won a little more. That's my biggest regret. Obviously. I
would have loved to have gotten a ring. And that's
where those guys, you know, someone like Travis and Gronk
and the rest of them, they they got they got jewelry.
They get to wear big old diamond rings and uh
they can always show them to me, and I'm happy
for him, but uh, yeah, I wish I had one.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
I wish I had one.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
Ever I have a good loss.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Uh, I mean if you psychologically want to spend it
that way.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, you can have a good lot for sure, especially
early in the season. Early in the season, like, hey,
we played well, we just went came up against.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
Them, like the Jets.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
The Jets against the Steelers played pretty well, justin Fieltz
played pretty well, but you they lost the game.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Now that's the Yeah, I think it's earlier in the seasons.
It's a it's a teaching lesson.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Of course, you always want to win, though there's there's
no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
You played the game, as Herman Edwards Jets coot. You
played a game to win.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
So if if you can't, if you don't come out
on top, you always got that bad taste of your mouth.
But you can alway teach from it. Early in the season.
At the end of the season doesn't matter. We don't
care what happened. We got to get it done. We're
trying to get to the playoffs, so we're trying to
win the playoff game.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
Who was the tight end? Who changed the position?

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I think Kellen Winslow. Okay, senior more my my genre.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
I think I would go with Shannon and and and
Ben Coates a little bit.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I think he doesn't get enough credit. I remember he
had a hundred catches one year at.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Least somebody that I looked at, it was like, Okay,
those guys are.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Receiving tight tight ends. But obviously I've always wanted to
do both. But yeah, those those guys.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
What did you keep from when you played with the
Miami Heat in the Summer League? What was that two
thousand and two?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah? Two?

Speaker 6 (26:43):
What?

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
I always look at that experience, by the way I saw,
I ran in the stand Van Gundy, the coach, he
was well pat pat Riley was our coach at the
beginning and then staying took over for the rest of
the summer. And I was always mad at him because
my first game I had and uh I had eleven
rebounds played, my guy didn't score and I only have
two points though I was one for seven.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
And I asked Stan, uh I.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Was mad at him because he never he hardly played
me after that, which I didn't understand. And uh so
I ran into him this summer and he said, well,
tell what he goes. Just understand there was people higher
up than me that might have made phone calls to
make sure that you didn't have didn't get to play
that much. And so I got a feeling it was
probably our general manager, Carl Peterson back then, who.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Was in a contract dispute.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
That was the reason I went played, And so I
think he probably was like, Hey, don't don't he you
know he's gonna play football. So uh but I but
take away pat watching pat Riley coach and stand coach.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
The four hour practices that we had under pat Riley,
that it was incredible. I never ever experienced anything like that,
A four hour practice straight under pat Riley, which I'm
from l a too growing growing up watch and Showtime
and Magic and Worthy and and that everything at the
at the Forum. To have pat Riley coaching, that was

(28:06):
a pretty cool thing, pretty cool experience.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Who would you play against in the Summer League?

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Uh? Shoot, I can't remember my team. I think we
had one of the best Summer League teams ever. We
had Karan Butler, uh Elite, Jay Elite, James James Yep,
Russell Butler, God Rest of Soul, rec of Peace, uh
Malik Allen. I believe it was we had. We were undefeated,
we didn't even lose. So played with some good guys

(28:33):
and great coaches. After Smolstra was on the coaching staff,
Bob mcadee was on that coaching staff, Van coach, Van Gundy,
pat Riley.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
It was. It was one of the best things I
ever did.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Eleven rebounds for a guy who's six five, that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
I could play in the league, now, Dan, I could
have played. I got Okay, how about that? You want
to know what I got answered? I got answered. People say,
you think you could have played the NBA. I'm like,
after that experience, absolutely that I could have played. I
wouldn't have started, probably, but because I would have went
from one one for seven, I would have made that
three or four for seven and I still would have
got those rebounds. So I think I could have been

(29:07):
in that. I would have worked myself to my jump
shot would have been a little bit better.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Could you have been like a Draymond Green?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
I don't know if I was good at him talking
about a Hall of Fame player, but uh, but yeah,
I think I could have played.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
There's no doubt about it. I know that I.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Could have went in the league and and got you
eight to ten rebounds a game. And got you eight
to ten points a game. I have no doubt. My
mind called me crazy. I could have done that.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Could be making fifty million dollars a year in today's
NBA eight with those numbers.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
No shit, if I could go, Hey, not underpaid like
these damn tight ends. They don't pay these tight ends.
You can start beating that drum. They're underpaid. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
What did you get the bezos for their wedding gift?

Speaker 5 (29:55):
My?

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Uh my?

Speaker 5 (29:58):
They didn't want anything, my presence, that's what they said.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Okay, it was just to show up and bring a
positive attitude.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
That's the gift that you want to going to bring.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
So wait, you didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
They weren't registered anywhere, nobody, nobody brought any gifts.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
He had to be registered on Amazon.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Give me an idea, what would you have gotten him?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And he does kind of have everything? Maybe maybe just
like an autographed picture of you.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
I don't think they would have wanted that. I know
where that would have went. Bottom drawer.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Yeah, great to talk to you.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah, that's always hope.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You're having fun. You look good, You look like you
could take a couple of snaps.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah, I could go five yards, turn around, okay, get down.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, I could do that still.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean there's some teams that could do that. That's
what Kelsey's doing. Now, are you going to go to
the wedding? You think you'll get in that wedding too?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Maybe? Maybe?

Speaker 6 (31:03):
I think that'd be a good one. That'd be a
fun one. I gotta feel they're gonna keep that one
kind of small.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Oh okay, that's one of those tight guest lists.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
You can see Tony Thursday Night Football. It'll be on
the eleventh. It'll be the Commanders and the Packers from Lambeau.
Thank you, ton Great to see you again man as always, Dan,
thanks having Tony Gunzals. He had uh fifteen hundred yards
like they when you see Tony's stats.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
You go, dang.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
He had fifteen thousand yards receiving. He had thirteen hundred receptions.
Fourteen time Pro Bowler, six times first team All Pro.
He's underrated. I think he was too good and it

(31:55):
just we took him for granted. He was too consistent. Yeah, PAULI.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
He was first team All Pro three and thirty six. Dang,
that's the Reggie White stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, and he went to the Bezos wedding because his
ex is married to Jeff Bezos and he has a
son with his ex Jeff's wife.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Lovely to be invited.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, well you want to invite the son, but then
Tony gets to go too.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
But I think they get their vacation. They think they
have a good relationship.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Yes, but that does seem to be a one seed
for tough weddings on knowing what to buy. The groom
and bride who have almost literally everything.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well they can have everything right, but it would be
nice to go to a wedding and not feel bad that,
you know, you didn't get a good gift or the
wrong gift. You could just show up and say, Hi,
I'm here, but I don't know what you get a billionaire,

(32:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Kawhi Leonard, you know, maybe get them.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You get them a shell company to then funnel money
through allegedly.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Sorry, that was that.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
I thought that there's enough space between Kawhi and those
are unrelated thoughts.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
My apologies. I haven't heard anything more. I got you
this account in the Cayman Islands. Tell you another one.
I needed another one. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
We can add another all Star. All right, let's take
a break, right, take a break. We might try to
get some calls in here. We've had some problems today,
and uh, we'll do best and worst of the weekend tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Since we didn't get the phone calls in keeping.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
How about every single day, we'll just do best and
worst of the weekend throughout the rest of the week,
we'll we'll take a break here. How about we take
a break and last call for phone calls. What we
learned once in store tomorrow after.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
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Speaker 2 (34:11):
Alrighty, we'll close up shop here. Our good buddy Mark
Sanchez will be on the program tomorrow. Hopefully we'll get
our phone lines back by then. Tyler has been working feverishly. Well,
at least he tells me he's been marking feverishly. Every
time I go back there, he's petting the dog. I
go how other phone lines not very good? But then

(34:34):
he'll be petting my puppy, Winnie.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Let's see this Dane sports history. What we learn?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
How about we write the headline tonight's game, you're gonna
write the headline.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
What's the headline going to be tomorrow? Todd?

Speaker 9 (34:50):
I'm going with JJ McCarthy, was dine O might Soldier.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
On Caleb old school? All right? JJ Walker, good times?
Uh Seatan, you write the headline? Uh?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Bears put the B and B game? Ben Johnson brings
a game.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
You love? You love doing that, don't you? Marvin create
the headline?

Speaker 10 (35:25):
Bear with us? Chicago loses badly?

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh, Paul, I.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
Was way too close to that. I'm in that audible
check out by Johnson. Ben wins Bear's debut. All right, courtesy.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
All's always good for a reference like that. Turns out yeah,
like he likes a Johnson joke.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
You can throw it? Who doesn't?

Speaker 8 (35:46):
It's subtle, extremely so.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I really took me a minute to figure out what
exactly you were referencing there.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
I'm like, what does he mean?

Speaker 10 (35:52):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (35:53):
Oh, I get it there, Michon.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
How about smoking a JJ okay bears rough up QB.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
What do you think.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Serviceable? How about JJ Watt three picks? Oh, by the way,
JJ Watt with the hair?

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Oh big topic?

Speaker 7 (36:17):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
There's two stories that we sort of buried the lead
on today. One of them was JJ Watt's hair. Well,
it was parted down the middle and it's feathered. And
then Seaton goes, I think this might be a nod
to Travis Kelsey's new haircut. Is this a thing hair
parted down the middle and feathered.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
I've been tracking this with JJ's hair for a while now.
It's longer than it's ever been. And then he has
the headset on pregame. I don't know if that pushed
the hair down or the middle part with a choice.
We're still looking into that.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I think you should reach out to him already have
because I don't want to talk to him about anything
other than just his hair, of course, if he wants
to come on the show.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
Is borderline feathered?

Speaker 7 (37:00):
That's that?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That was high school like I was looking at that
going I can relate to that fifty years ago.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Is it coming back parted down the middle, feathered?

Speaker 8 (37:12):
He had the short cut for years as a football players.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Let it get there.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I don't know that that one looked like that's a
that's a wifey type thing, you know what I saw
Travis Kelcey, and I like, I wonder how your hair
would look if you cut it like that and parted
it down the middle.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
See, nobody has switched up more than Travis Kelcey in
the last year and change.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
His whole vibe is switched up.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Hadn't they the part of my hair down the middle
now these days?

Speaker 8 (37:42):
And is that making a comeback? Hair parted down the middle?

Speaker 10 (37:46):
I think Travis Kelsey went to a new barbershop. Yeah, yeah,
his old girlfriend. He was going to the barbershop I
was going to. Now he goes to a salon. He
definitely goes a Super cuts.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is she's wait, she's not going away quietly? Kelsey's X.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
She is not.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
No, she's not She's not happy. She's not happy.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
What is she getting them for the wedding?

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I don't think she's gonna be invited. How about this
day in sports history.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
Paul, let's go nineteen eighty six, Herschel Walker, the running back,
made his first start in the National Football League after
leaving the New Jersey Generals of the USFL and two
thousand and two, the new team, the Houston Texans, played
their first regular season game. They beat the Dallas Cowboys
nineteen to ten. That was a big deal.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
That was two thousand and two. Yep, two thousand and two.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So Mark Sanchez on the program. Seth Wickersham, author has
a book and it has to do with quarterbacks. Let
me see if I can give you the official title.
It's American Kings, a biography of the quarterback. Seth Wickersham, Yes.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Has a deep dive to Lway Manning, some of the
legendary quarterback, pasting president about their lives from high school
through college to pro retirement and all their experiences on
and off the field.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Good stuff.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Why did you lead with Elway?

Speaker 9 (39:09):
Did I say Alway first? Because Elway should be first?

Speaker 7 (39:11):
And then you went Manning?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, I went the two Bronco quarterback.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
Yeah, that would make sense, Elway Manning, and then.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Then Brian Greasy, Brett Rippin, as Weiler.

Speaker 9 (39:21):
There's a whole bunch of guys there, Chris Sims.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
These are the Cutler Yeah, all Bronco quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Wow, actually they are.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, all Bronco quarterbacks is Jake Cutler. Then you go
to jail for four days for d w I.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
He's the type of incident.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
I think it's pending, Oh, pending that he's going to
jail is going to jail? Yeah for four.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
Days, released after three good behavior.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Mmmmm, let me see final results of the pole questions.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Man, people are really dog in Florida football today. I
could tell you that. Yeah, those are the two who
had the worst weekend, the Dolphins and fl Art of football.
That one most inspirational loss, though the Jets should be
happy about the way they played against the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Although we have a resident Jets fan here, Rob, and
he is not. He wants no part of this inspirational loss.
He's waving us off. How about we go around the
room what we learned on the program? Todd, you learn
anything today?

Speaker 5 (40:20):
I did?

Speaker 9 (40:21):
You thought for a minute Argan was playing Oklahoma State
Technical Institute or something.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
Not my gun the Cowboys with that score.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm shocked, Seaton, this week's college football is a little week.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
Yeah, Marvin Tony Gozalez still can't stand Bill Romanowski.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I know, and he thinks he could have played in
the NBA. But see, like he's a big.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Guy in the NFL, he's only six or five in
the NBA. He's a shooting guard.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, well, I don't know if he was a great shooter,
good athlete, Paul, would you learn today.

Speaker 8 (40:53):
I enjoyed loose Tony Gonzalez Todd, What did I learn?

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Tony j One to a chest to play for pat
Riley on the Miami Heat Summer League team, including four
more hour practices.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Thanks for joining us, our pleasure to serve you. We'll
try to do better tomorrow for Fritzie's seat and Marv
PAULI ears truly have a great day.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
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