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Dan is taking bets on when Bronny James will be drafted. And former NBA player Channing Frye drops by to talk some roundball.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio final hour in this Wednesday Dan and the
Dant's Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Glad to have you on board.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
More phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three
DP show update the poll results seating from the first
two hours, and then what's in store maybe for the
final hour of this Wednesday program.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah, we got one here. It's a little bit of
a landslide. Unfortunately. Okay, well, Saquon Barkley be the best
running back in football this year. Right now, eighty nine
percent of the audience say.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
New Okay, okay, haters, I'm going to be in the
minority here. I'm gonna give props to Saquon Barkley. I
think in this system, playing in the NFC East, playing
with a great offensive line, skill position players, good quarterback,

(00:52):
all the things that he didn't have when he was
with the Giants, and something to prove.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm gonna say yes.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The very first comment under this pole question is when
did we get pearloff back? So apparently this is it.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Oh, this is a big love and time. Wow, that's
a shot. You know what, maybe may are we slighted
or honored? I can't really tell maybe I can get
a side with the eighty nine percent. Now after that, Wow, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
The y also have a would you rather a concert
be too long or too short? Sixty four percent would
rather be too long. I think that's just a value play.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I guess I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I think there are times when I'm watching a movie
or I'm at a concert, I'm like, uh, I got
to wait a couple more songs to hear the song
that I want to hear, and that means I gotta
sit through the encore. No, Taylor Swift does three and
a half out. It's hard to complain if somebody gives
you three and a half hours, if Springsteen does three

(01:48):
and a half hours, four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
But when it comes to a baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Game, you're like, oh gosh, this thing's gone on for
like three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yes, ton.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
How often have you walked.

Speaker 8 (01:59):
Out in the movie theater before the end where you
just did not care how it was gonna end.

Speaker 7 (02:03):
I'm just done with this thing.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I walked out once. It was a Brad Pitt movie.
I think it was called Meet Joe Black, and I
walked out. I was with my wife and I looked
at her. She looked at me and I said let's go,
and she goes yep. So not very often, you know,
you kind of stick around. You're like, okay, I'll hang

(02:25):
in there. You don't want to walk out, you know,
when you have to excuse me, pardon me, excuse me,
pardon me, excuse me. Ye sometimes if you're on the end,
then maybe you can slip out and nobody's you know,
you're not bothering anybody. But when I went to see
The Fall Guy, and look, I didn't like the movie.
I wanted to like the movie. I didn't like the movie.

(02:48):
There was a moment when I went.

Speaker 9 (02:51):
Okay, how many people are to the left of me.
Oh there's two couples. Okay, I'm gonna have to disrupt them,
you know, because you're in those lounge chairs, I mean,
you know, Barco lounger and you're like this comfortable, and
you know, they seem to be enjoying the movie. And
I thought, man, I could duck out right now and
I wouldn't feel like I missed anything. But I hung

(03:12):
in there, you know, the warrior that I am. I
hung in there to watch the ending of The Fall Guy.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
And I know people keep, you know, on social media, Like,
what is it you don't get about the movie? I go,
I just didn't like it. It's an homage to the
stunt men and women in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I just was like, eh, okay, just didn't do anything
for me, even though you had Ryan Gosling and he's
easy on the odds, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (03:40):
Yes, Paul, once in a while, there's a very good
movie where you could take off thirty minutes and be better.
Remember Once upon a Time in Hollywood the Tarantino movie. Yeah,
I like that. I watched it probably three times. You
could take about thirty minutes the air out of that
movie and make it better. You know, it seemed to meander,
maybe on purpose obviously, but it seemed to meander.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Isn't that? You know Tarantino?

Speaker 10 (04:03):
Yeah, my first time, I think, you know, you get
impatient the first time you see it like this is
going on.

Speaker 11 (04:08):
Then you have more time and you like it more.
But the first time it stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Well, he's big on his dialogue and everybody gets a
chance to say something, and it just feels like it's
not rushed, and you know it's not full of explosions.
You know, it's it's that that you're listening to a
movie as well as watching one.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yes, Tom, I.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
Wonder if, in general, is longer better according to the Academy,
if it comes down to a couple of more like
we've got a two and a half hour one, but
this one was three fifteen and they're both similar.

Speaker 12 (04:33):
Which way do we go?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm going to say longer is better, but you know
eight seven seven three DP show.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle
a TP show. Good morning. We're on Peacock. Download the
app if you haven't done so. Channing Fry will join us.
He is on loan from Turner's Sports. We'll get his
thoughts on Lebron. James calling Kyrie Irving the most gifted
player he's ever seen, maybe in the history of the
aim and called him a wizard, and you know, I'm

(05:04):
sure he's in the conversation. I don't know what it
takes to be a wizard, but gifted. He certainly is
that talented. He certainly is that I wouldn't say the
most gifted in the history of the sport, but that's
Channing played with him in Cleveland and Lebron when they
won a title.

Speaker 13 (05:20):
Yes, Yes, Mark you said, what is it to become
a wizard? Yeah, getting punched in the face by Draymond Green.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Like that blue blue, very clever, all right, three year callback.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Punchline took a little while to get out, but you
know it was I'm getting traded. Yeah, he punched me.
I'm the one getting yeah. Okay, that's what it takes
to be a wizard.

Speaker 12 (05:46):
Oh, act up again, you're going to Washington, mister.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
No, no, anything but that anything.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
We talked about Geno Oriema signing a five year deal
and uh, that'll put him at seventy five when he's
done and he's putting up numbers. Nobody's going to go
get those numbers, I don't think. And you see the
greatest coach of all time? Now, I'm looking at percentages
of titles two years coaching, and Phil Jackson had eleven
in twenty years. Gino has eleven in what thirty five years?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (06:19):
Eleven and forty forty years?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Is Phil the greatest coach? If you realize that he
didn't win a title without having either Kobe or Michael Jordan,
does that hurt him a little bit? Where Gino has
a roster that turns over. Every three or four years,
players graduate go to the WNBA, new players come in.
Phil always had Mike and then he had Shaq and Kobe,

(06:46):
so he had Scotty and Mike and he had Shack
and Kobe. Does that hurt him when it comes to
even though you win over fifty percent of the time
a title, do we then knock him a little bit
because well, you had Michael and Shaq and Kobe and Scotty.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yes, Mart, But.

Speaker 13 (07:02):
The same thing could be said for Gino because I
go from Suber to Tarassi, Tarasei to Maya Moore, Mayamour
to Breonna.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Stemmittt more players that you know he's bringing in and
winning championships. Now, you know Gino cornered the market here,
but still he's got turnover with his roster, whereas you
know Phil didn't have that with Mike. And you know
he wasn't worried about losing Michael or Scotty. Uh, there
was a time when maybe he's going to lose you know,

(07:30):
Kobe who wanted out to go to Chicago, But you
had Shack and you had Kobe.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, Todd, but Phil gets that.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
But he had to do with all those personalities and
all these players, and he's got to do with Pitt
Ben and he's got to do with Rodman and keep
this one happy. And how did he mess them all
together with the triangle so that sometimes he gets a
few extra brownie points for that part.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, but I don't give him credit in Chicago because
he had Mike and everybody fell in line with Jordan,
even Rodman, you know, but Phil Phil coached each player differently.
He had different rules for different people. And you know
you'll have Hall of Fame coaches who will talk about that.
I don't treat everybody the same. Jimmy Johnson talks about that.

(08:10):
You know, if this guy who's barely making the roster
falls asleep in a meeting, I can cut him. But
if Troy falls asleep, I wake him up. I know, Yeah, yeah, PAULI.

Speaker 10 (08:22):
Has there been any football coaches or any coaches that
won a couple titles without what to be considered high
end talent. You can make the case that I know
what Tom Brady is now, but Bill Belichick won six
titles with a quarterback who's draft in the sixth round,
an unexpected talent, and they never spent a ton. They

(08:43):
never kept free agents. You can make the case that
Bill Belichick won six titles without high end talent.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
He also won with different teams as well, because he
had running game, or then he'd had a great defensive team,
then he had offensive weapons. It was all so interchangeable.
It felt like he won with different teams. Yeah, I mean,
I guess you got a fact. It feels like that

(09:09):
we don't give Belichick enough credit because we go, well,
he had Tom Brady, and that's not fair to Belichick.
You still had to fill out the roster. Belichick still
to me the greatest football mind in the history of
the sport. I just think he was so advanced with
that his ability to adapt change from almost quarter to quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Half to half, game to game, season to season.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know, that's really the remarkable trade I think of
when I think of Belichick.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yes, it's almost like with these the great coaches that
we're looking at, to some degree, they found a system
that worked well and just stuck with it throughout their career,
you know, right, Like maybe Belichick found a certain core
set of football values that were like, this is what's
important and if these things work, it'll happen. Phil had

(10:03):
the triangle, and it was like, this works universally if
you run it right, you're you're really not going to
stop it. And worked on multiple different teams and worked
on different levels with different personnel. It's this.

Speaker 12 (10:15):
Is it.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
The system is there's something that they stumble onto that
they're like, whoa, this is different. This is going to
work no matter who we have there.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It does help running the triangle.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
That Michael Jordan buys into the triangle and that Kobe
bought into the triangle as well. When your best player
buys into the system, you know that helps. All Right,
we'll get some phone calls here coming up, Robbie and
Alabama leads us off.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hi Robbie, well hello.

Speaker 14 (10:41):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 15 (10:42):
Long time, first time. Yes, I enjoyed Ross Tucker's interview
and insight about the Carlisle Indian Industrial School where Jim
Thorpe played for several years. His coach was none other
than Pop Warner. But the interesting side note to that

(11:04):
was that on the other side of the field at
West Point that day was an underclassman from Kansas named
Dwight David Eisenhower.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, well, thank you our name dropping there.

Speaker 15 (11:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (11:17):
Ron quite the star.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You show off you Jim in California. Hi Jim, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 16 (11:24):
Hey Dan, thanks for calling back.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I was kind of in the middle of something, but anyway, Sorry,
sorry to interrupt your day, but.

Speaker 16 (11:31):
I just wanted to just thank you guys for giving
me a little nuggets knowledge here. You know, we got
summer coming up on a lot of parties, got Other's
Day coming up, Tom Tyler Mother's Day. You know, kind
of sitting around you, you know, you're hanging with people
that you don't really hang with the you know, meet
new people. So kind of hanging out, there's a little
you know, silence and kind of hey, how about then, Nix.

(11:54):
You know, I was bunching, going to keep this up,
and then just started like rolling, everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Starts talking stuff.

Speaker 15 (11:59):
Just thank you guys for that stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, Well you're welcome, Jim. All we do is just
try to give back to the community, give you some
talking points when you go to a cocktail party, a barbecue.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's what we do. Hopefully.

Speaker 10 (12:16):
Yes, when you guys go to social settings like and
they don't really know you're famous, but the rest of us,
when you go to a social setting, and people don't
know what you do for a living, and you'll hear
a sports argument and they're not right, like if they
have their facts wrong, or they ask them, do you
guys want to jump in?

Speaker 11 (12:32):
And do jump in? Or don't jump in? I'd rather
watch right.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'd rather just be a referee, you know, because they
might go, hey, am I right?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Am I right? And then I might go, no, you're not.

Speaker 11 (12:44):
You get pulled in.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yes they do.

Speaker 11 (12:46):
We have like we could step in or step out.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, but occasionally, well people don't know. They think I
can only talk sports, or they'll try to. They'll say, well,
you know, in your world it would be like this, okay.
They could be talking you know, the stock market, and
they'd go okay, okay, so in your world, like somebody's
stock is, you know, going up. But then you know,

(13:12):
they could have a like a false basement like huh,
it's okay. I even if I don't understand it, I
just nod my head. But they always they want to
make sure that I understand it. Using sports analogy.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Warren Buffetts, Dan, he's like the Michael Jordan of money. Dan,
That's how you would understand who Warren Bach Oh, Thank
you for clearing that up.

Speaker 12 (13:34):
I wasn't aware.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Uh no, I go you know, Oh, okay, thank you
for dumbing it down.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
He's really good at this then, is what you're saying
is really Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Mike and clearwater. Mike, how are you today?

Speaker 14 (13:50):
Hey, Danny, guys, how's it going great? You were talking
about her. Yeah, you were talking about the uh you know,
nature versus nurture, And it always brings me back to
that class movie Trading Places, when you know Billy Ray
Valentine was put into that position by Duke and Duke
and it kicked fun.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
On Wall Street man. Yes, they put him right there.

Speaker 14 (14:12):
They took him right off the street. And another thing
is just go back a few weeks ago. You were
talking about the the NBA's most exciting players, and I
think two of them come from my Orlando Magic all
time Tracy McGrady and Penny Hardaway. That is exciting basketball
right there.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I agree, not necessarily the greatest, but they were exciting.
They were different. I'll give you that. We were talking
about Lebron talking about Kyrie most gifted player in the
history of the sport. I think you said that call
him a wizard, said that he should be his teammate.
They could have had him, you know, they just had
to pay for And I think Laker management was probably like,

(14:52):
I don't know, man, just like every other team in
the NBA was like, I don't know about this. JJ Reddick,
g J Reddick. He was interviewed and he said that
he'll address the Lakers head coaching rumors when the season ends.
Now this has been there for a couple of weeks.
They're zeroing in on JJ Reddick. Well, when you start

(15:16):
to look at some of the other candidates taking other jobs,
then you know there's one guy still standing and that's
JJ Reddick. Oh, it's his job to lose or whatever
it might be. Well, they can't name him they're head
coach because he has a job during.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
The NBA Finals. That's the big hold up there.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Would I be shocked if JJ Reddick is not the
next Laker head coach?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yes, at this point I would be.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I just want to see if they take Bronnie James
in the first round, yes, Mark.

Speaker 12 (15:43):
How many times do they go to Bronnie during the
NBA Draft?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Will he be there?

Speaker 12 (15:48):
I think he's going to be at home or at
some draft party.

Speaker 10 (15:51):
Highest rated second round of the NBA Draft all time,
not kidding.

Speaker 12 (15:56):
And there's two nights.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Wait a minute, there's only the first round and then
they have a next day with the second round.

Speaker 11 (16:03):
Yes, I'm only watching round two, so we can skip Thursday.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, I think he's taken on the first day.

Speaker 15 (16:13):
I do.

Speaker 12 (16:15):
I'm taking a piece on that one.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I'm okay, all right, here's the deal, pie to the
face on that Friday. If Bronnie is not taken in
the first round. Now, does anybody want to be with me?
Or if you're against me, either get your guys pies
or you guys get four pies.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Who's with me? Seaton?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I am not okay? Who thinks Bronnie's going in the
first round?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Marvin? No, okay, Paulie.

Speaker 11 (16:50):
There's no third round?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is there?

Speaker 11 (16:53):
Just checking they used to do. I'm gonna say, second round.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Todd, second round?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Okay, So it's me once again. This is the divide today.
It's been me against the dan Nets the entire day. Okay,
Pie to the face, Yes, paul the last pick, the
last pick a round one the Boston Celtics not happening. No,

(17:18):
it's not going there, No chance, not going there. No, no,
that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, dang see, I just made the draft exciting.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Aside from where LEBRONI, where Lebron, where Bronni goes, I just.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Made it excited.

Speaker 10 (17:35):
LEBRONI would be such a better name. You think, Oh yeah,
why does he go by Lebron James Jr. Is that
his actual name?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I'm good a guess, yeah, go by lbja Lebron James Jr.
Name like Raymond, not Raymond Raymond. Lebron's middle name.

Speaker 12 (17:55):
Is like like Ramon Hermon Moon, Ramon, Roon Jane.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
What's Broni's middle name?

Speaker 11 (18:03):
Lebron Ramon James Sr.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Okay, but what's Junior? Did he name him after a teammate?
Let's take a break.

Speaker 11 (18:13):
That'll keep you.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm gonna kid.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Keep people in the car James hil galskifs Okay, let
me take a break. Channing Fry is going to join us.
We get his thoughts off. Lebron calling Kyrie the most
gifted player in the history of the sport.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
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Speaker 3 (19:22):
All right, before we get to Channing Fry, we of
correspose the interesting question, what is Lebron James's son's middle name?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (19:31):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Is it name? Is he named after one of Lebron's teammates?

Speaker 10 (19:37):
No, I wish Okay Lebron Ramon or Raymond James junior,
so exactly the same as Lebron.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
With the junior Oh so he has the same middle names.

Speaker 11 (19:46):
Same middle names, everything go to vi BRONI of course, is.

Speaker 18 (19:48):
That part of the rules of being junior senior? It
is you gotta you gotta wait, you have the same
middle name. Go all the way through my dad. I
have the same middle name. Oh, it's like, uh, it's
like Clay Matthews. He's not claim Matthew's the third because
I think he has a different middle name than his
father or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I know somebody and she has three daughters and they
all three have the same middle name Marie, and I went,
why is that? She said, I like the name, So
they're all three their middle name.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, huh.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
That was like that scene in goodfell Is everybody was
called Pete Pauli and Marie Channing.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
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Co hosts a road tripping' podcast, How are you well?

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Good?

Speaker 19 (20:34):
Good? Life is good. I'm in Oregon and it's sunny,
so can't be mad?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
WHOA okay? Well this time of the year, it's beautiful
there in Portland.

Speaker 19 (20:40):
Beautiful living in Narnia right now, living.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
For okay, help me understand what Lebron is saying where
he calls Kyrie the most talented player, gifted players ever
played the game.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
What exactly does that mean to you?

Speaker 19 (20:55):
Uh? You know what It's like it's easier, it's easier
to explain like this, when I work on moves, I
have to like or I have to imagine what I'm
going to do in the game, or I'll like, when
I get in the game, I predetermine, like, oh, he's
running at me, I'm gonna dribble and then shoot and
do this. Imagine Kyrie's mind works like the matrix, where

(21:17):
like things work slower, and he's no matter what move
or what direction you think he might be going in,
he's able to just take the ball and put it
anywhere he wants around him, Like he doesn't have a
He almost doesn't have a scouting report, Like you just
have to be better than him. And like I remember

(21:39):
one time he was hurt and then people were like,
you know, the guys that were coming off the bench.
He was like, well, let me play all you guys
want on one. It was it was almost embarrassing, Like
I said, guys, this is what I don't play defense
in the first place. You got me on here getting
roasted by Kyrie for five minutes straight for what This
doesn't helping him, but like he just even jab steps,

(22:02):
you know, he and I don't think anybody puts two
and two together. He's meticulous about the details, which allows
him to play the game freedom of thought. So everything
is reactionary, and that is rare. I almost. I don't
know anybody else who plays like that. You know, somebody's like, well,
I don't like going left or I don't like going right.

(22:23):
He doesn't have that thing right.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So you're co signing on what Lebron is saying. He's
the most gifted player in the history of the game.

Speaker 19 (22:30):
Damn okay. I would say he's up there. But I've
also played with Vince Carter, so we talk about because
Kyrie is amazing when it comes to skill. But like
when you talk when you put skill in athleticism together,
you know Bron is you know Brown is up there,
Vince Carter is up there.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Shoot put Steph curry up there. I think Steph he can't.
He's not a jumper, he's not physical, he's not fast.
He's got to have a good handle to create separation.
He can get to the hoop. I mean, what he
does to me is far more interesting than what Kyrie. Now,
Kyrie in traffic is wonderful, but Steph every time down

(23:15):
the floor, his ability to still be able to shoot
with range, and everybody knows that. You know, they got
to stop you.

Speaker 19 (23:24):
I think what's nice about Kyrie is different than Steph
is Steph his system, the way he's been successfuls he
throws the ball to somebody else runs and then when
he gets it, you're moving where Carrie says, I don't
need to play, and anybody in front of him, whether
you're his matchup, the best defender of the center, he
just goes, it's me and you, and I'm gonna get

(23:46):
by you nine out of ten times. That's the difference.
But I do, dude, Steph is I have done the same. Man.
Steph is special.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
But what about Michael Jordan? Because if I'm going to
take the totality of a basketball player, yeah, first Team
All Defensive what nine years and put him at the
other end as well. So is anybody more gifted than
than Michael.

Speaker 19 (24:13):
So I didn't play against Michael, obviously, I watched him
as a kid. You would say, Michael, if we're gonna
go there, then I say, Kobe Bryant, I was, I
tell this.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, But Kobe wasn't the defender that Mike was.

Speaker 19 (24:26):
When he wanted to yeah, yeah, but you're right he wasn't,
but I would just still say he was when he
wanted to. But yeah, I mean we could put Michael
up there. I'm not arguing like, Michael is one A
one B greatest player of all time.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So would you take Lebron over Mike?

Speaker 19 (24:43):
Who else is on my team?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You're starting your team? No, you're starting your team?

Speaker 19 (24:47):
Start a team. Yeah, No, I'd had to take Michael Jeordan. Okay,
I to take Michael Jos that's my guy. But i'd
have to. I'd have to take Michael Jordan because I
could build around that.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Can you take us back in the huddle? If you
remember when you're lining up that last shot when the
Cabs are playing Golden State and Kyrie's going to take
that shot? Yeah, but was that by design that Kyrie
was going to take that shot?

Speaker 15 (25:12):
Hell?

Speaker 19 (25:12):
Yes it was, Hell yes it was. So if you
watch the film, Golden State's defense was immaculate just the
whole year, and when Bogan got hurt, they played that
smaller lineup a lot more so they switched two through five.
So they switched with Clay Andre, Sean Livingston and Draymond

(25:33):
Green with Kyrie and Steph. When Steph was guarding j R. Smith,
he showed and get back. So on that last play,
Klay Thompson is guarding Kyrie. We knew on that show
if you're showing, that's not the matchup that you want.
Whether that's true or not, that was the call that
we went to, so we said, get Kyrie on to Steph,

(25:56):
get Steph to gard Kyrie. Klay Thompson messed up much
less like Jade McDaniel's messed up when he let Gobert
guard Luca. Clay should have ran and stayed on Steph
or stayed on Kyrie when they switched. You saw Richard
was on that slot position at the three. When he
cut through, it left that whole right side of the

(26:18):
court open. And that's really what caused Kyrie to be
able to go because Steph was doing this and when
he looked around, he saw that there was no help
other than in that corner. And that's when Kyrie went
to his bag. And you know, history's history, but I
mean listen, whether it was Clay or Steph or Jesus himself,
I don't know if anybody was gonna guard that kid
at that time.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Channing Channing Fry co host a road tripping podcast. We
have a bet. In fact, we just made the bet.
I'm taking Brownie James to be drafted in the first round.

Speaker 19 (26:51):
Oh that's a good bet. I heard you talking about this.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Pie to the face is at stake?

Speaker 19 (26:58):
Here is he going in the first round? Does san
Antonio have a pick in the first round?

Speaker 15 (27:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You're you're saying san Antonio could be the landing if I.

Speaker 19 (27:10):
Was if that was my son, I would want him
to go to San Antonio. If that was my son
and he was that famous. Why Number one, the system,
he's not in a big city. And two you're literally
getting ready to play with the face of the league,
Victor Wembiyama. So I'm not thinking about this year or
next year. I'm thinking about the next ten to fifteen years.

(27:32):
Who do you want to be around? And to me,
that's Victor Wenbiem Paul.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do the Spurs have a first round dreft pick?

Speaker 11 (27:37):
They do, but it's the fourth overall pick.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
That won't happen.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
They have the second round and they have the fifth
pick of round two.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Okay, okay, second round, okay, okay, I.

Speaker 19 (27:52):
Mean why would you not?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
What's your guard?

Speaker 19 (27:54):
Who do you want to play with?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I agree, And he could use a point guard because
he didn't have one is rookie year and he could shoot.

Speaker 19 (28:00):
He needs a point guard and needs somebody who could shoot.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Do you think Lebron would be upset with either the
Spurs or the Lakers if his son goes there?

Speaker 19 (28:10):
No, I just think, dude, at the end of the day,
he's a dad, like he wants his son in the league. Like,
if his son is good enough to play in the
league and he's in the league, he's won. He's done
his job as a dad. He set him up for success. Right.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Would you rather guard Duncic or Joker?

Speaker 19 (28:29):
Oh? I've guarded young Joker and young Luca and both
of them were a problem. Oh that's a good question.
I would probably say Joker because at the end of
the day, he's a past first guy, which sounds crazy,
but Luca has that mother effort in him where if

(28:52):
somebody on the stands talks, he's looking at you and
you're like, I didn't say nothing that You've got to
get barbecues, right? The problem? Wait?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Wait, somebody would yell at Luca and then he would
take it out on you.

Speaker 19 (29:05):
Yeah, like you know there are certain players like that.
But Luca, the guy sitting in the front row at
the Minnesota thing was Waven stopped being a baby. Lucas said, oh,
you talking to me? Okay. He looked at Anthony Edwards,
he looked at Jan McDaniels, he looked at Minnesota, say
it's over for y'all, and gave him twenty in the
first quarter, like you just gotta. I think Boston should
clap for Luca as he was on the Celtics. Maybe

(29:26):
that will help.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
But who did you, like, are you surprised that Joker
has won three MVPs or surprised that Luca is you're,
you know, leading the NBA in scoring, like which either
one of you surprise you know, surprise you?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
No, dude, so you thought they were both going to
be great.

Speaker 19 (29:49):
I thought that would be great. I didn't know he'd
win three MVPs, okay, right, And I got to give
credit to the Denver Nuggets for seeing that through the
Taco bell commercial when he got drafted. H But like
they've built a team of stability around him to be successful, right,
So Mike Malone's been a coach what nine years. They've
added Jamal Murray. They've added exactly the pieces he needed.

(30:13):
And we don't talk about the Aaron Gordon trade or whatever.
That was enough because it allowed Jokic to not get
double team. You can't double team him when he has
that lob threat right there. Aaron, to me, you've got
to give credit for its taking a talent. He's talented
and he's amazing, but you've also built him up to say, hey,
we're going to build our system around you because you're unstoppable,

(30:35):
and he's qualified for that. But Luca, we knew what
Luca was a long time ago. He's just now in
shape this year. Lord A. Mercy. Took him six years,
but he's now in shape.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Any downside to porzingis coming back into the lineup.

Speaker 19 (30:50):
Downside, No, I think we have to be very unjudgmental
about his first couple of games. My man has not
played basketball. He's played against his teammates. Nobody gives a
crap about that. You have not played in the NBA finals.
The speed of the NBA Finals is crazy, right, Like,
even for me, it was so funny. We're sitting after

(31:13):
the Eastern Conference Finals. We cooked the Toronto Raptors and
then we played we got beat by the Warriors the
first game I got in. At the end, I looked
at my teammates. I said, yeah, that's moving a little
too fast for the big fella. Y'all go ahead, y'all
go ahead and play like he's gonna have to pick
it up. And you know, honestly, they're gonna go at him.

(31:33):
They're gonna go at him. They're gonna go at Al
Horford because if he's upfront guarding the screens, they're gonna
test his conditioning. So is he gonna guard? Are they
gonna switch Luca on the KP? Now? If he gets downhill,
who's blocking that lop threat? That's where I think that's
where the game is. So to me, he's gonna have
to be in crazy good defensive shape and then I

(31:56):
don't know if he has to win his matchup versus
Derek Lively a PJ. Washington for them have a chance.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I've been saying that Al Horford is going to be
a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done.
Now I got a factor in Florida where he won
two national titles. Totally, So it's.

Speaker 19 (32:14):
Basketball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, it is. Is Al Horford going to be in
the Basketball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 19 (32:21):
Not before Kevin Love.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Kevin Love a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 19 (32:25):
Oh yes, stop, yes, oh for sure. Okay, that's a
first short and that's not that's my boy. But he
is for sure, So Kevin Love gets in. I'm fifty
to fifty on Al Horford. If he wins this year,
I think for sure. I think for sure he's I
think he's won enough. But if he doesn't win ever,
I would say no, but Al's great. Al've been a

(32:45):
winning his whole career.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Now, I think Kevin Love and Al Horford both have
been an All Star five times.

Speaker 19 (32:52):
Yeah, but one of them has a championship. One of
them was the second best power forward for three years
in the NBA's a little different. It's a little different.

Speaker 15 (33:01):
Okay.

Speaker 19 (33:02):
Our hoof has never been like, oh he's the is
he better than you know? Remember Kevin in Minnesota was like, wow,
is he better than Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowhisky, Like,
I don't know if we've ever talked about Al Horford
that way.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, we haven't.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
But I think didn't Kevin Love have a thirty thirty game?
Didn't you do a thirty thirty points thirty rebounds in
a game in Minnesota.

Speaker 19 (33:23):
I think he did, which is disgusting. I don't know
if I had thirty thirty rebounds in a.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Month, but I remember Paulie and I what was.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
It, Paulie Kevin Love November twelve, twenty ten, thirty one
thirty one in the game against the Knicks.

Speaker 19 (33:42):
Will we ever see somebody get thirty one red? That's
that's like a team rebound. That's what the Pacers rebound
that last game.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, but Luca had a sixty twenty game.

Speaker 19 (33:53):
Scoring is very different than rebounding. Rebounding the basketball Back
in two thousand and what seven, when there was.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
A twenty ten ten.

Speaker 19 (34:05):
Still we still played a true center, a hour forward,
a big three guard, a pretty big two guard, and
a medium sized point guard. Like he's battling in there
with Remember, offensive rebounds was a thing, so like you're
in there at that time, like for thirty is crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
He had fifteen rebounds in the third quarter. Half of
his rebounds. I was going to say, you got to
play a team that it's not you know, the Knicks
weren't good, so that hell. Yeah, good luck with the podcast.
Great to catch up you again. Sure, thanks for joining us,
of course, thank you. It's a Channing Fry Tourney sports

(34:46):
analyst and co host of Road Trippin' podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Take a Break, Last Call for phone Calls? What we learn?
What's in store tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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six am sip it on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 3 (35:04):
Redgi Miller will join us on the program tomorrow. Last
Call for phone Calls, What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?
They stay in sports history, and Todd has a sports
centertie that he has reminded me of. I don't know,
five or six times this morning, six times?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Maybe maybe?

Speaker 7 (35:21):
Are you crying the music as something?

Speaker 10 (35:22):
Right?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Now?

Speaker 11 (35:24):
Off and running?

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Coming up on Sports Santa Santa's not coming down the Chimney,
but NBA Finals Eve has finally arrived for Richard or Porzingis,
Will Boston's big man be ready for the TV Garden tipball?
While Lebron wishes he still had him as a teammate,
Kyrie is ready to kick Dallas into high gear.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
There's none like this Niner.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
Why owners aren't in a rush to hand off the
bead to other top backs while they're getting fanatical about
their phillies.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
The boys in the Bronx they pumped in vin stripes.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
A devilish angel steps over the line, while Joko goes
under the knife a Padre's band, while the Huskies land
a new deal with the legendary coach, also adding some
spice to the ice with the w and Panthers are
saying about each other Gator haters and the Sooners runs
come later, but we're right on time sports in the
next Mmm.

Speaker 11 (36:07):
He was going fast.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sorry, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
Tuft and nailed exactly to the second it is.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
But you overwrite. That's the problem. Yeah, that's that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Whenever we'd write those Sports Center Jesus, you had to
give it a little breathing room.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
And they just do it on the fly and they
don't rehearse it a few times or tape bitten y.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Okay, maybe we shouldn't do this anymore, or maybe you
should rehearse it. Why didn't you rehearse it? You had time.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
I think it's more fun live and then it gets
a chance. You guys can make fun of it if
it's too short.

Speaker 19 (36:38):
Or too long.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
But I'm pretty sure those things are taking. Then they're
just adding you're.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
A little sensitive, aren't ye?

Speaker 4 (36:42):
See Dan, he's producing Okay, maybe you heard of it?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Is this content?

Speaker 19 (36:47):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Was that content?

Speaker 8 (36:49):
We could have done this before the show, and I
could have done it several times until it was just right,
and then we would just play it back like Sports
Center does.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
They don't do it live.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Also, you purposely made a mistake on it.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
No, I'm it's not a mistake. I ran like a
half in a second and a half log. I'm saying
that it's more fun live than just getting it right
on tape and just playing it back.

Speaker 7 (37:07):
That doesn't improve anything.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Why are you so defensive?

Speaker 7 (37:10):
Because you called me up by being like one point
three seconds later on that. So I'm just being here
three But the writing was exceptional to that and focusing
on me that I was, I wrote.

Speaker 19 (37:21):
Like three more words than I Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I thought the writing was exceptional.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, you're the Angel Reese of this show. Yeah you
want credit?

Speaker 7 (37:30):
And I got the black hat and yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, okay, can we just do it without the music
and Todd just read it so we could focus on
the writing.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, I'm good?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Are you sure?

Speaker 15 (37:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
You know, I can post it in the newsletter. Maybe
if you want to do that, then people can really
absorb the the wordsmith there.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
And then everybody can just kind of read it and
play along and pretend they're like I like to do
with Sports Center Anker.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
For Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah, Seatons now got the cop.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Sant is not coming down the chimney, but the NBA
Finals eve has finally arrived. Christmas for Richer or poor
zingis Will Boston's big man be ready for the t
D Garden tip off rich Well, while lebron wishes he
still had him as a teammate. Kyrie's ready to kick
Dallas into into high gear.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Kick Dallass, think of that.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
That's not what I was saying.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Kyrie's ready to kick ass. To kick Dallass.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Words Kyrie and kick It's what I went.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
If you have.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
To explain it, there's none like this Niner. Why owners
aren't in a rush to hand off the bag to
other top that rush hand off a running back to
Russian handoff. While they're getting fanatical about their phillies. The
boys in the Bronx they pumped in pin stripes.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
He's got no attention yank should get some more.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
The devilish angel steps over the line, while a joker
goes under the knife.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
Got a little over underplay there.

Speaker 11 (38:55):
This is exceptional.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
A Padre is banned while the huskis land a new
deal with a legendary coach.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
The gambling Kid and or him.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay, also yeah, adding some spice to the ice. What
the Oilers and Panthers are saying about each other?

Speaker 7 (39:14):
I made that up. They're not saying anything.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
And Gator haters the Sooners runs come later.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Oklahoma had to come back to be Florida.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
But we're right on time sports.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
But he wasn't right on time.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
That's the funny part. It was the second half two
seconds up time.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
That's why it was funny because he was late. He
was not on time. See, the jokes are just too good.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
It all goes full circle like that.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Man, that's incredible writing was the exception.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, it was yeah, over.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
The line, under the knife?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, Angel, Reesa and Djokovic. You're John Steinbeck when it comes.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
To John side about Junior l take that's fine.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh wow, I don't know how you come back from that.
You don't this dang sports history only.

Speaker 10 (39:59):
Oh, I gotta follow that. Let's see, I only got
one Dan. Two thousand and six, Novak Djokovic became the
first man in nearly half a century to win four
consecutive major championships. French Open title completed the career Grand Slam.
I'll give you one more. Nineteen sixty seven, National Hockey
League awarded six new franchises, Minnesota north Stars should never
change that name, Oakland Seals, LA Kings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, you missed the best one. Sant Louis Blue nineteen
ninety one. Michael Jordan switches hands midleap for a layup
as the Polls meet the Lakers.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
I'm cute.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Nobody else in the history of mankind could have made
that play. Yes, and for no reason at all, For
no reason. Yes, Oh my god, look at that. I
go Uh he didn't have to do it, Todd, What
did I learn today?

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too long went too long.

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