October 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes consider Bill Belichick’s future as a football coach after a disastrous beginning to his UNC tenure. And good friend of the program Chris “Mad Dog” Russo joins the show to chop it up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Are they two teams going in different directions? The Jags
and the Chiefs final hour in the program. Glad to
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has Notre Dame next week?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Michigan at USC this weekend. Wow, Okay,
USC slightly favored.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And then they go to South Bend and we'll be
there a week from this Thursday. We'll be outside the stadium.
And do we know the name of the bar. We're
Bar Pub that's right there, Todd Legends, Legends.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
We're gonna be right outside Legends in the big parking
lot there, right near the stadium.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
So it should be.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Awesome, Okay, and we're going to have They're going to
allow us to have an audience there. I don't know
what the weather's going to be like, but you know,
come out and have some fun. And once again, anybody
who shows up and if you stay, we will get
pictures and autographs after every show. That's something that we've
started at Super Bowls. And if we get the opportunity,
(01:30):
you guys make the effort, then we'd love to say hello, Yes, Paul, well.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Heather, it looks good. We're right in the shadows of
the stadium. Great place to be. Folliage time Midwest.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh peak foliage, Yes, peak foliage. So that'll be big
ten Saturday night in Michigan against USC eight seven to seven,
three DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your
phone calls. I don't know if they're two teams headed
in opposite directions, but I will say maybe that gap
between the Chiefs and everybody else in the AFC is
not as wide as it used to be. The Chiefs
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two and three through five games for just the second
time in the last ten years, and then you have
the Jags are four and one, their best start since
two thousand and seven when they started out four and one.
Chiefs had their opportunities, a bad kickoff by Harrison, Butker
put the Jags at the forty and give credit Trevor
(02:24):
Lawrence had a couple of dimes there and then the
stumble Rooskie. It sounded like this, Trevor under center.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He literally fell down.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Trevor fell down on the play.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
Charn't you to.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Play run cut down down?
Speaker 9 (02:44):
He got up under the play.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I got Tampa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence, Okay, they didn't have
any timeouts.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
He was probably gonna spike the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Stop the I don't know if the call matches the
actual play because Lawrence makes way. It makes something out
of nothing because his guard comes back and then trips
him up and falls down, and then tries to get
up and then falls down, and then he eventually sees
a little opening and scores the touchdown. Patrick Mahomes through
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a pick six. He's never won a game when he's
thrown a pick six, zero for five in the regular
season and owen one in the postseason. All right, Seaton
Poll question for the final hour of the program. Christopher
mad Dog Russo will join us in about twenty minutes
from now.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Let's see, we got a new one here from Polly
uh Next fall, Bill Belichick will be dot dot dot
North Cary four. Oh, okay, the North Carolina head coach
working for an NFL team, working in the media or unemployed.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I had somebody and somebody that I respect in the business,
who said, could you see Bella going to the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I go, I would say.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
No, but I don't like Miami's ready to move on
from Mike McDaniel. But maybe And I said, wait, are
you talking about now? And he said no, at the
end of the season. Could you see Belichick just going
back to the NFL? I said, I don't see him coaching, don't.
I don't know if he has the enthusiasm to do this.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean, he's not college like, there's nothing college like him.
He's not one of those raw ra guys. I can't
imagine him recruiting. Cannot imagine, you know, meeting with parents
and being awkward and like, you know, your son, he's
really good. You're meeting with boosters and you got to
get him fired up. And just I can't The reason
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why we're talking a little bit more about Belichick because
there is an article w r A L sports anchor
and reporter Pat Welter. Multiple sources with knowledge of the
inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say North Carolina's football
losses a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized
coaching staff, and a failure to communicate. Now, when you
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say a divided locker room, that's because you have players
who came in transfer portal seventy players and then you
had probably thirty to forty who were leftovers and they
probably didn't get nil and some of these players coming
in did get nil money. Multiple sources with knowledge of
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the inner workings of Belichick's program say results in the
field or a product of a divided locker room. It's
an unstructured mess. A source with firsthand knowledge of the
program told WRAL there's no culture, no organization. It's a
complete disaster for a guy who made his reputation on
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being a defensive guy. And North Carolina's program was being
sold as the thirty third NFL team. Through five games,
the tar Heels rank one hundred and twenty eighth in
points allowed per game. Do you realize there's only one
hundred and thirty six NCAA Division One football programs in FBS,
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so they're one twenty eight out of one thirty six.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
STATA the J start of the J we love your.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Statu, the day stata, the j stata, the j oh
damn give us.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Say thank you? Thank you? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, usually great college coaches that go to the
pros flame out, they could always go right back to
college because it worked. Like Nick Saban when it didn't
work out with the Dolphins, there was a line to
sign him when he went back. Steve Spurrier goes to Washington,
doesn't work out. Who wouldn't want to bring in Steve Spurr.
Does it not feel that way with Bill Belichick and
the NFL, Like it feels like it's the flame out
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is too big right now?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, but it's because of his age too. Nobody's going
to take on his seventy three year old guy. How
long is he going to coach for? How enthusiastic is he?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I disagree a little bit because, like Pete Carroll gets
another job, if Nick Saban announced today he wanted to
work again, he would have fifty teams calling. I just
think that the brand of Belichick has been so hurt
the past year and a half that it's not even
salvag role in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, Pete Carroll has enthusiasm. Pete Carroll, you know he
looks alive. I mean, if Sabin went back, do I
think he'd be successful? Well, how long? Where's he going?
And you know the turnaround time. It's not like Mac
Brown ran a terrible program there. They reached for the
stars and they got Belichick. I don't think Bill was
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getting hired any other place. The Falcons didn't hire him Welkins,
So I don't think he's I can't see him coming
back and all of a sudden he's got magic to
I just want to know if he's all in like
that would be. It feels like they thought this was
going to be easier than what it is and you're
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in the ACC. I mean it's not the SEC and
it's not the Big Ten.
Speaker 10 (08:22):
Yes, Marvin, I think post tom Brady, his reputation really
took a hit right after Tom Brady left because a
lot of people this is the great coach, Like, we
don't want to put up with this if we don't
have Tom Brady and win all these championships.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
We're only putting up with this.
Speaker 10 (08:35):
Because we know we'll get to a super Bowl or
at least content for one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, and he doesn't have his quarterback. He brought in
one that got injured. Now he's got Brad Johnson's son
who's in there as well.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You're just watching it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They just don't seem like there's any pulse, like there's
no excitement. They almost feel that it gets to the inevitable.
We're gonna lose, but by how much. But as far
as Belichick, I'm going to give him the respect that
he's coming back for one more year. But I don't
know what his personal life is like. Is he excited
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about being a coach. That would be the one thing
I would wonder. And you're bringing in all these transfers.
It's hard to bring in transfer no matter if you're
an established coach or not. Bill hasn't coached in college,
not as a head coach, and you're bringing in seventy players,
new players, and then a quick turnaround.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, pulling Deon Sanders did this exact same game plan
with transfers in twenty twenty three. They got a lot
of pub They were only four and eight that year,
but the following season he had a lot of talent.
They were nine and four and for Colorado fans, nine wins.
They were begging for that for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but you're not exactly playing a you know, a
tough schedule. You got your son as your quarterback, and
you got Travis who is the best player in America.
I mean they were going to improve and then they
got an offensive line and then they were formidable. But
this isn't happening with Bill. I mean, Dion's gonna sell now.
(10:15):
He's got a personality. Bill doesn't have that. Bill doesn't
He's not doing that. You're lucky to play for him.
It's not he's lucky.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
To have you. Aiden in Utah? Hi, Aiden? What's on
your mind?
Speaker 12 (10:32):
ADP? Good morning? I got two things real quick. First thing,
Fritzy twenty thirteen Super Bowl Denver Seattle. When Seattle scores
their seventh touchdown, how do you want Broncos radio network
to react to that? You want them to have some enthusiasm.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
They probably do not have enthusiasm. You have to recall
it as it is.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
But I understand the emotion has to be you know,
you have to consider the emotion when you're doing a
local game.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But there's got to be a little bit of a
happy medium.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's you're not getting out of this. You know that
I'm not getting out of it. No, you're not.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
You stuck that enthusiasm What I mean everyone's jumping on that.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I was looking for the word there that you
were finding the word. Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Well then now somehow acknowledging a big play by the
other team that but not enthusiastically. There's got to be
another word for that, not reveling. You're not cheering for
that to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Rody in New Mexico. Hey, Rody, By the way, if
Belichick would go to the Dolphins, then he could become
the all time winning his coach while doing it with
Don Shuler's team. If that would actually happen. Okay, Hey Rody,
Hey Dan, good more, good morning.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
So I got two things I'm allowed Fritzy, I'm a
Denver Bronco fan. Last Friday he said I'm gonna watch
Denver probably lose to the Eagles or something like that.
We got to stick together, we got to have better attitudes.
And another things, Dan, is the Chiefs are they getting
Are they worse? Or is the rest of NFL learn
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how to play them to beat them.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, I think that was a couple of years ago
that they were going to keep everything defensive backs would
keep everything in front of them. They weren't going to
allow Tyreek Hill, you know, the speedsters to get behind.
There weren't going to be these big plays. So they
became a defensive defense first team, and they ran the
ball and then it felt like Mahomes would figure something
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out late in the game and that was their recipe.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Thank you for the phone call, But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Think that they defense has figured out this is the
best way to be able to compete with Kansas City.
Do I think Kansas City is still a very good team.
I do, But that's a game that they should have won.
They had their opportunities. Mahomes with a pick six, bad kickoff,
and Jacksonville answered. Jacksonville, did that we something that we
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didn't expect them to do. They answered against the best
quarterback in football. And that's saying a lot. And you know,
maybe it's not as much Jacksonville as regressing. Maybe or
the Chiefs are regressing Jacksonville. Maybe he is improving. You know,
new coach was the offensive coordinator with Baker Mayfield, so
maybe maybe you're seeing the beginnings of the Jags being
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a playoff team, a good team.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Paul the new coach to the Jaguars co and
he caught a lot of heat with that first press conference,
and it was like his bandwagon didn't last a day,
and you know, like everyone's like, this guy is off putting.
It's kind of it was.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It was awkward.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But also remember they didn't know if he was going
in for the interview.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, it was kind of back and forth.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Buck Well, they didn't know where he was. And then
he's not interviewing, and then he is interviewing, then he
takes the job, and then he gets there and that
opening press conference doom maaull.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He was goofy's but it's good when he's when you're winning,
he's goofy.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yes, let's see Kinsley in Indiana. Kinsley, Hi, hey Kinsley.
Speaker 13 (14:12):
For ten eighty three pounds.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
All right, what's on your mind? Kinsley?
Speaker 13 (14:22):
I'm homesick with my dad watching the show. We're just
calling to ask where you're going to be at the
little game show?
Speaker 12 (14:33):
What building?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Well, we're going to be outside.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now you would probably have to take off from school,
but we'll be outside of a pub called Legends, and
that's right on campus there right by the stadium.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yes, Paul I sent a sore throat coming later next
week for Kinsley.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sell it kid, if you would like to come out
and say hello, that would be great. Kinsley.
Speaker 13 (15:04):
We'll be on Fabreak that week.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, then you're good. We'll see you there in
South Bend either Thursday or Friday. And thanks for calling,
and I hope you feel better.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
All right, that's that's Kinsley.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
That's adorable.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So thank you, Todd. We have two people who are
going to show up. It'll be Kinsley and his dad,
so two people will be in the audience.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yes, Paul, do any of you guys? I know the answer.
But have a memory where your dad pulled you out
of school healthy to go see a game, a show,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 14 (15:41):
No, none, no, wow, All right back to you, Marvin,
I know no, yeah, Mark, Marvin, definitely, definitely, yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I had the opposite happened to me.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I wanted to pitch in a little league game, but
because I had a little cough and cold, my mom
wouldn't let me go downstairs and pitching in a little
league game, And.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I got to watch.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I could see the little field from my apartment building,
watching us lose thirty two to two in.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
The game that I was was repitching it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You could have shut him down.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
We probably still would have got killed, but it wouldn't
have been thirty two to two. I could assure you
of that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You were Clayton Kershaw before Clayton Kershaw, weren't you.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I had my moments.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I struck out eighteen bats in a six inning game
once I lost three to one because I hit some
bat as I walked the through to whatever did go
all the out of strikeouts though.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
All right, speaking to great baseball mad Dog Russo will
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the Super Bowl between the Giants and the Broncos. Chris,
good to see you again. Finish this sentence. If the
Yankees get swept, what.
Speaker 17 (18:05):
Yeah, big embarrassment. Good job, Danny, why's a pleasure? Bull's
going nowhere? I think you could have made a case
if they had lost the Red Sox again, then maybe
despite his contract extension, you could have made that case.
You know, he's had a lot of injuries. He navigated
the team pretty well. Good job there by beating Boston.
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You know, maybe they ran into a bus soil here.
You know, I'm the Yankees will probably chuck it up
to you know, they were in a hole. Next year
they got the young pitcher in Shittler throwing cole back.
You still have Wrdawn sitting there with Freed. You know
they'd be a little better off. But again, this would
be another year where the Yankees don't, you know, go
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they here's the bottom line. Since two thousand and nine,
they won one World Series game.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
That's it. I mean, you can debate this anytime you want.
Speaker 17 (18:55):
This is the Yankees, who have the biggest payroll in
baseball and right there with the Dodgers, and they've won
one World Series game in fifteen years, and chances are
they won't win another one this year.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Because I do think you and I probably you love
the baseball.
Speaker 17 (19:08):
I think the Blue Jays will probably figure out a
way to win another game, and then the Yankees are
going to lose the divisional series to Toronto and that
is going to sting.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
But I don't think there's going to be any drastic changes.
Speaker 17 (19:20):
I think they're relatively pleased with how the year went
based on losing Coal Boone. The fans don't like Boone,
but the Yankee brass loves them. So if imagine he's
a good representative for them of you know, his good
media guy. He sends the message correctly, he listens to
what they wanted to do, so he's not going anywhere either.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I think they're chalcoling up.
Speaker 17 (19:41):
They ran into a buzzsaw in his Blue Jay team.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mentioned this in the first hour of the show.
There have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches of
at least one hundred miles per hour in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wow, Yes, that's where we're headed. That is That is analytics, correct.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
That is analytics, Danny. And there's too many relievers.
Speaker 17 (20:05):
You know, it was so much fun to see Scruble
against Cleveland early in that series because he went seven
eight innings. Cloche against the Yankees when he pitched him
to the bottom of the eighth last week. The entertainment
aspect of baseball, we've lost it. You and I grew
up with Gibson with sever You maybe with Kofax, not me,
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but you maybe with Kofax. Where you saw these big
pitchers go out there and have to navigate a lineup the.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Third time through.
Speaker 17 (20:33):
Jim Palmer's another one, catfish Hunter, and that was always
fun to see the big Hall of Famer how he
gets through.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
You know that big three, four, five.
Speaker 17 (20:43):
In the lineup in the eighth and ninth inning, and
you don't have that anymore.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I mean, look it, what look of what has occurred here?
Speaker 17 (20:48):
I mean the Yankees took out heel bottom of the
third the other night with two outs. I mean, the
kid had a no hitter about the top of the
sixth the other day in Toronto, in the sixth inning,
and they took them out of.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
The game after seventy eight pitches.
Speaker 17 (21:02):
Boyd got taken out of the game against the in
Game one against San Diego after fifty eight pitches.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
I mean, it's just the way it is. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 17 (21:10):
They've ruled the aspect of it, the entertainment aspect of it.
You and I and most fans can't pick out You
can't pick these relievers out of a lineup, yet they
dominate these games in a sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth inning.
You know, it is the way it is it's you know,
baseball needs to fix it.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I don't know how they're going to do it.
Speaker 17 (21:27):
The analytics have become more important than the entertainment aspect
of the sport, and it's a problem.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
That's why it was good to see the Yankee.
Speaker 17 (21:34):
Right hander pitch in the eighth inning, ninth inning in
Game three, win eight innings in that game.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
There's something different. It was something fun again. The great pitcher,
the starter.
Speaker 17 (21:44):
Watching him perform late in these playoff games when you
and I were growing up was theater. And we've lost
out in the sport and it's a major problem, and
Baseball knows it.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I'm not sure what they can do about it, though
they know it. They know it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But you know, the dog your starting staff has been great.
It's their bullpen that's terrible, terrible they're starting and that
has been unbelievable, right.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
And that's you know, that's the weakness that the Dodgers have.
Speaker 17 (22:11):
I was lose surprised last night in bringing a kid
from Japan living earlier in that ninth inning, you think
he wanted to try trying to see if he can
get three outs with a three one lead, so to
get him back on track.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
But Snell comes out after six innings. But if the
Dodgers have a buggaboo, that's it. If the Dodgers are
going to lose, it's going to be that you know.
Speaker 17 (22:30):
Eighth, ninth, seventh innings where they're gonna lose a terrible game.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And last night could have been that game.
Speaker 17 (22:36):
I mean last night, I mean, let's face it, Snell
comes out, they got a four up in lead, and
you know, if they don't make a great play in
that bunt, who knows, they might lose a historically bad
game blowing a full one lead in the ninth, and
maybe they show some vulnerability together a little nervous Philadelphia
feels good about themselves.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
They get to split it home.
Speaker 17 (22:55):
And you know, we have a situation where the Dodgers
gonna get kicked off. Now you know they're up to Oh,
they're going to figure out a way to win another
game and they're.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Gonna win that series.
Speaker 17 (23:03):
The Dodgers issue, as you just said, is that short
relief in that seventh, eighth and ninth inning. And now
we'll see maybe this twenty one year old is going
to be the answer. They spend the game two on
and fifty million, and he did a great job in
Game one, so maybe they have corrected that too. I
mean the Dodgers are you know, they don't. They're a
great team. I mean, Dan, think about their team. They
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are top three in the lineup, is tremendous. Then you
got Taoscar Hernandez, kik Hernandez gets big hits, Will Smith,
who's hurt.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
We all know how good he is. Let's throw on
Max Muncy.
Speaker 17 (23:36):
And then they have, you know, guys like snell Yamamoto,
Old tany Oh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And by the way, here's Glasno making two in a
million a pitch him in Game four. I mean, they
are a great, great team.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Let's be honest talking to you.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Christopher mad Dog Russo mad Dog unleashed on Sirius XM
channel eighty two and he is one of the host
co hosts of ESPN's First Take. I thought about you
on this topic that we use championships as a metric
for greatness for quarterbacks and NBA players, but we don't
do that for baseball players.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Why yeah, I.
Speaker 17 (24:09):
Mean, because you know Ted Williams never won a title,
but he only gets up four times a game, and
is it his fault?
Speaker 7 (24:15):
That they never had any tremendous starting pitching.
Speaker 17 (24:17):
You know, cob never won a title with Detroit, and
he's one of the all time greats.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Never won a title, lost a couple of World Series. Yeah,
I mean it is a little tricky. I mean, you
know Madden, he never won a championship with the Yankees.
Speaker 17 (24:30):
I think it's because the pitcher dominates so much. So
if we look at baseball from from an eight man perspective,
we don't look at it that.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Way because there's not as much impact they can have
on a game.
Speaker 17 (24:44):
With the baseball debate about the great Hall of Famer
in the big spot, we do with the pitching because
he's going to get the ball a couple of times
in a short series. And that is where I have
always had some trouble with Kershaw because Kershaw he's won
of I and Kershaw is a tremendous regular season pitcher,
but if you look at Kershaw in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
He's been very mediocre.
Speaker 17 (25:08):
He's got a four to four to five ERA, he's
given up thirty home runs in his postseason starts, and
he has never been a great postseason performer.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
That is the one.
Speaker 17 (25:18):
Guy that you can label like the quarterback, like the
center in basketball, that for whatever the reason, his regular
season prowess doesn't translate into the postseason. And he did
win a title in twenty twenty in the in the
pandemic and beat Tampa, and he pitched pretty well in
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that run. He pitched good in Game five. But we
don't look at it the same way because the everyday
player Danny, as you know, doesn't have the same influence
on a game as the starting pitcher has. So when
we look at it in baseball, if you want to
grade the starting you know, Maddix was never great in
the postseason.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
No.
Speaker 17 (25:58):
Three, seven, four, lifetime, all right, never great in a postseason.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
And that's why a guy like Smolts and that's.
Speaker 17 (26:04):
Why a guy like you know, to a certain degree shilling,
that's why you know you'd like to have them in
a big game because you're confidence in them in a
big spot. Their regular season isn't as good, but you
know what a big game you can rely on it.
So I think it's more the pitcher that you discussed
more than the everyday player.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I got into it with Peter King. We kind of
went back and forth on the Hall of Fame and
we were talking about, you know, that is Russell Wilson
playing himself out of the Hall of Fame, And I said,
you know, Matthew Stafford has one Super Bowl win and
I think he was a pro bowler one time. Russ
got to two Super Bowls and he was a pro
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bowler ten times. So his regular season stats are better
than Eli Mannings. But so it feels Manning's going in.
People don't debate that, but Russ is playing his way
out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Do you agree.
Speaker 17 (27:00):
Yeah, that's a very that's going to be a very
close vote. I think that pass hurts him too. The
interception against the Patriots. You know, with Malcolm Butler one
of the worst.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
It hurts Pete Carroll.
Speaker 17 (27:10):
It's one of the worst players of all time, and
he throws a pick which would't won a Super Bowl.
I think that is a little bit of a factor.
You know, he's been on a million teams. Now, you know,
Denver didn't work well, the Giants hasn't worked well, Pittsburgh
didn't work well, ended poorly in Seattle. I think that's
a problem too. I think your point about Stafford is fair.
He's very underrated historically. I mean he was on a
(27:32):
bad Detroit team. I understand, you know, God played well
for the Lions, but he was on a bad Lions team.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
He's done a great job for the Rams. He plays
well in big games.
Speaker 17 (27:42):
You know last year they had the Eagles beat he
played great, played well in the Super Bowl, played well
two years ago in Detroit in the playoff game. Stafford's
very underrated historically, and he's going to be a Hall
of Famer. And Manning, Danny is about five games, Let's
be honest. Manning is about a game in two games
in Green Bay. It's about a game in San Francisco,
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and it's a two games against Brady.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That is Manning's career.
Speaker 17 (28:06):
Now, five heroic games beat Brady, especially the second one
you know, got beat up against the Niners was great,
you know, green Bay and minus two degree weather, he
out played far he and he won two titles.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So and he did it in New York, which you
know is a big factor too.
Speaker 17 (28:26):
Very few quarterbacks outside of Plunkett, you know who didn't
get He's not going to make the Hall of Fame.
But if you win two Super Bowls, chances all you're
gonna make it.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
And he did it in New York, and he beat
Brady twice. But his career, if.
Speaker 17 (28:38):
You look at Manning and you be fair about it,
his career comes down to five games.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Now they're postseason games. They come down to five games.
Speaker 17 (28:45):
Wilson's a better regular season quarterback than Manning, but not
the postseason success. Stafford is a better quarterback than Manning,
but not the postseason success too. And you and I
probably if my life came down to it, I would
definitely take Stafford over Manning. Would you take Wilson over Manning?
Game the win field life? Who would you take Wilson
(29:07):
or Manning? I'd probably take Manning. I probably would.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, let me throw this out.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I wouldn't take it, stef If David Tyree doesn't make
that catch, Chris, they don't win the game.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, so like that's he didn't go to the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I agree with you. Excellent play and the and the.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And the first win in the Super Bowl was the
defensive front. They crushed.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
That was it. Yeah, they and he won the MVP
in that game, Manning.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And yeah, but he shouldn't have been you know, that
should be in the defensive line.
Speaker 17 (29:41):
Absolutely, very much like Grady's first year against Saint Louis.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Yes, he shouldn't have won the MVP either, ven A
Terry could have wonted.
Speaker 17 (29:49):
The defense did a great job on Warner, but the
quarterback gets to break.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But you are one hundred percent right.
Speaker 17 (29:55):
You can make a very strong case that David Tyree
is the reason.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Eli's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 17 (30:03):
Yeah, because one super Bowl would not do it.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
It would have.
Speaker 17 (30:06):
Taken It needs the eaty, his body of work needs
a second title, and he got it, and he got it.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
That turned out to be his first title, but he
got it. Now.
Speaker 17 (30:15):
He did a great job in the play. He dodged
the rush. He you know, he found the open man.
He did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter with
his offense. They would you know it was what was
the score? I think it was seven to three, maybe
whatever the score was. I mean he did have two
drives in the fourth quarter, Kevin boss Court, the t
you know.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
The tight end quarter pass.
Speaker 17 (30:34):
But you're right one hundred percent now, But that goes
back to the original question.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
You had a game of Dan Patrick had a game
for his life. Would you take Manning or would you
take Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
If if I get Russ Seattle, Seattle, Russ, I would take.
Speaker 17 (30:57):
Him because of his run and things like that.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes, he was the best player on the field in
that game, that Super Bowl that he lost.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
New England had no answer for him. He was unbelievable
in that game.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And it's you know, do you agree that Pete Carroll
and Darryl Beble wanted him to be the MVP and
not Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You call the pass.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Play, it's like we blame Russell instead of crediting Malcolm
Butler with an unbelievable play and Russ, why you would
call that instead of a run pass option, Like I
don't know, I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But you know.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
If you well, Pete Carroll, I agree with you on
that point. Pete Carroll's a number one goat of that game.
It's not Wilson.
Speaker 17 (31:41):
I mean, they called the wrong play and they got
more Shawn Lynch sitting there, So you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Wilson is not that, but he's number two or Bevil's too.
Take your pick.
Speaker 17 (31:51):
The coaches are one and then the quarterbacks two. But
I think that your other point is a good point.
I think they're a look at mat but he had
a bad back.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
But you get the idea. Sometimes how you.
Speaker 17 (32:04):
End your career, if you're a borderline Hall of Famer,
is more important than what you did in your career.
And Wilson is going to end his career, you know,
in a way that is not impressive, and that is
going to be your lasting memory of him against you know,
the Steelers and the Giants and Denver and Peyton and
(32:25):
Sean Payton got him out of there, and he didn't
finish well in Seattle, and I think because of that,
we seem to forget for an eight or.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Nine year period he was a great quarterback, and you
are right, he was.
Speaker 17 (32:36):
Great, but the last three or four, four or five
he's been very average. Manning ended his career with the
same team, and the lasting impression of Manning in a
lot of ways and Troy Aikman, we even brought it
up last night, was the Mario manningham pass which beat Brady.
He mentioned it in the game last night. So as
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a result of that, I.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Think that you know, I think Manning, you know, you
don't have a bad taste in your mouth. Now, do
you agree with me go back to pitching for a second.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Now.
Speaker 17 (33:09):
I know everybody loves Kershaw, but do you agree with
me that Kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been
so good in the regular season and the average baseball
fan doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason pitcher.
You think I'm being too harsh there, or do you
think there's a good point to be made.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I heard you say this on your show and it
felt like you were going out of your way to it.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Did you felt that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, because you know, Maddix and Glavin weren't good postseason pitchers.
I agree, and we don't mention that very often about
those two guys. And Maddix won three hundred and fifty
four games, I mean Kershaw, Yes, that that is bad,
bad numbers, bad numbers, but when you win that title,
(33:54):
I mean, Maddox, they won one World Series, so that's it.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I mean, Hershaw just I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
There's certain guys that were great in the postseason and
they were good in you know, Jack Morris or Smoltz
or Shilling. They just love the moment and I you know,
I just have great appreciation for them. But yeah, it
did feel like you were.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Well, I gotta be careful with that. Dad just said that.
Speaker 17 (34:19):
I take when you tell me that, I'll be careful
and I'll be fair about Kershaw.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And well, I know you got to run, but I'll
be fair on Kershaw. You know the old eye.
Speaker 17 (34:27):
You know what happened in Game five in twenty and
seventeen again juice, I mean, supposedly that's when the Astros
are cheating folks with your cans. And supposedly they laid
to Tom Praducci to me this, and he would know.
Supposedly they laid off thirty eight sliders in the game
and he got bombed. In that game they lost thirteen twelve.
(34:48):
They laid off thirty eight sliders. Now did they lay
off thirty eight sliders or they know where they were coming.
If that's the case, maybe you give Kershaw a big break.
I don't know how you feel about it, but that's Chris.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I ran into somebody who in the Astros organization this
summer and he said that Kershaw was tipping his pitches.
So yes, he said, we knew because I talked about
the cheating. He goes, No, Kershaw, who's tipping his pitches?
I said, but you guys still cheat it. He said, yes, yes, well.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
Then you gotta trust So then the question becomes, do
you trust a guy who told you that or is
he trying to protect his team from not taking something
away from that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Great, it is great to see you. Thanks again for.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
We started out the show, we were talking about Lebron James.
He's going to make his quote unquote second decision and
would this be.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
About his retirement and I was saying.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, this is going to be something that is product related. Well,
here is Lebron James talking about making his second decision.
Speaker 18 (36:31):
Well, everyone's on pens and needles. Across the country. You
ready to go, Lebron, where's the powder left it at home? Lebron?
Fans want to know where you're taking your talents this year.
What's your decision In it's fall, man, this is tough.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
In it's fall, I'm going to be taking my talents
to HENNESSYVSOP VSOP.
Speaker 18 (36:55):
And this was the conclusion you woke up with this morning.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
That was a conclusion I woke up with this morning.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Why I feel like it's gonna give me the best
opportunity to win more at hosting.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Not only that, win a signature cocktails. We're not having
a good time. We had a pressing guests, ween at.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
Making memory, we at making it look easy, win at
leaving people wanting more.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hmm Okay, well it went as I thought it would.
That they would kind of mock the Jim Gray decision
and when he took his talents to South Beach, so
kind of went as scripted. Didn't know what the product
was going to be. But now it's it's Hennessy.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, Paul had the opposite effect on me and pick
up some more Hennessy after the show. It worked if
I could buy more and buy.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
More okay, all right, Uh, Marvin, how would you grade that?
Speaker 11 (37:59):
Laugh?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Todd? How about you?
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Yeah? I found it a little cringey. Didn't love it.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, seating exactly what thought it was going to be. Yeah. Yeah,
he's not announcing his retirement like this. Slightly embarrassed for
even paying attention to it. Really from being here. Yeah yeah.
As soon as he started, you know, they did the
well where's the powder?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I no, okay, Well, you know, maybe Hennessy's getting what
they wanted. You got publicity here, yes, Mormon.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I know Michael Jordan wouldn't do this, couldn't help us.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Sorry, alrighty.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Final results of the poll questions, Seaton, if you'll run
through those this day in Sports History, last call for
phone calls. Mike Greenberg. Greeney is going to join us
on the program tomorrow, Get Up and Uh. Jimmy Raw
former Philly he's doing some TV work while rooting for
the Phillies during the Phillies Dodgers series, So he'll join us, all.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Right, Satan.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
Seventy percent of the audience, Ay, Trevor Lawrence's career is
going to be disappointing rather than great, and next fall,
Bill Belichick will be unemployed. That's fifty two millions, followed
by working in the media.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I guess maybe in a studio role, but can't see
him breaking down games during a game moves too quick.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Do you think Bill Belichick in that situation would be
more likely to be fired or quit if he's no
longer at North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Uh, it'll be a buyout.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, So maybe a combination of we don't want you, okay,
pay me, and then I'll leave.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yes, Tom, Yeah, I see that mutual parting of ways,
which we all know was never fifty to fifty down
the middle of that.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I just don't know how much enthusiasm he has for this.
I just I never get that feeling.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's priorities appear to have changed a little bit this
day in sports history, Paul, just.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
One of our favorites. Nineteen eighteen, Georgia Tech football beat
Cumberland College two hundred and twenty two to zero. Georgia
Tech ran the ball every play for nine hundred and
seventy eight yards, not one.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Pass, okay, and then they named the Heisman after John Heisman,
who was the head coach at Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, front runner.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
What happened to sportsmanship? Yes, like John Heisman scheduled Cumberland College.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Cumberly got a payout check though big payout.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Oh they did ah huge? Yeah yeah, yeah they're nil.
Players didn't step up back then, Todd? Would you learn today?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
You don't know how good his team is going to be,
but you're calling it seven five point center?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Wendy will be the NBA MVP this coming season.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well, you know what I forgot that? I said Luka
don Chik would be the MVP, so I have to
go with that. But Wemby will finish second, all right,
Seaton stumble Rooskie is a new play. Yeah, the stumble Rooski. Marvin,
what did you learn?
Speaker 11 (41:14):
Apparently going to a cookout is a punishment?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Paul? What did you learn?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's Tennessee time?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
We all learned?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
You got caught up in Cooper flagging all the NBA
preseason action last night that was going on.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Have a great day, everybody. We'll be back tomorrow. Dan
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Are they two teams going in different directions? The Jags
and the Chiefs final hour in the program. Glad to
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Here comes Saturday Night presented by Discover. So USC then
has Notre Dame next week?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Michigan at USC this weekend. Wow, Okay,
USC slightly favored.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And then they go to South Bend and we'll be
there a week from this Thursday. We'll be outside the stadium.
And do we know the name of the bar. We're
Bar Pub that's right there, Todd Legends, Legends.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
We're gonna be right outside Legends in the big parking
lot there, right near the stadium.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
So it should be.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Awesome, Okay, and we're going to have They're going to
allow us to have an audience there. I don't know
what the weather's going to be like, but you know,
come out and have some fun. And once again, anybody
who shows up and if you stay, we will get
pictures and autographs after every show. That's something that we've
started at Super Bowls. And if we get the opportunity,
(01:30):
you guys make the effort, then we'd love to say hello, Yes, Paul, well.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Heather, it looks good. We're right in the shadows of
the stadium. Great place to be. Folliage time Midwest.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh peak foliage, Yes, peak foliage. So that'll be big
ten Saturday night in Michigan against USC eight seven to seven,
three DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your
phone calls. I don't know if they're two teams headed
in opposite directions, but I will say maybe that gap
between the Chiefs and everybody else in the AFC is
not as wide as it used to be. The Chiefs
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two and three through five games for just the second
time in the last ten years, and then you have
the Jags are four and one, their best start since
two thousand and seven when they started out four and one.
Chiefs had their opportunities, a bad kickoff by Harrison, Butker
put the Jags at the forty and give credit Trevor
(02:24):
Lawrence had a couple of dimes there and then the
stumble Rooskie. It sounded like this, Trevor under center.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He literally fell down.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Trevor fell down on the play.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
Charn't you to.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Play run cut down down?
Speaker 9 (02:44):
He got up under the play.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I got Tampa Tenny, Trevor Lawrence, Okay, they didn't have
any timeouts.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
He was probably gonna spike the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Stop the I don't know if the call matches the
actual play because Lawrence makes way. It makes something out
of nothing because his guard comes back and then trips
him up and falls down, and then tries to get
up and then falls down, and then he eventually sees
a little opening and scores the touchdown. Patrick Mahomes through
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a pick six. He's never won a game when he's
thrown a pick six, zero for five in the regular
season and owen one in the postseason. All right, Seaton
Poll question for the final hour of the program. Christopher
mad Dog Russo will join us in about twenty minutes
from now.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Let's see, we got a new one here from Polly
uh Next fall, Bill Belichick will be dot dot dot
North Cary four. Oh, okay, the North Carolina head coach
working for an NFL team, working in the media or unemployed.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I had somebody and somebody that I respect in the business,
who said, could you see Bella going to the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I go, I would say.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
No, but I don't like Miami's ready to move on
from Mike McDaniel. But maybe And I said, wait, are
you talking about now? And he said no, at the
end of the season. Could you see Belichick just going
back to the NFL? I said, I don't see him coaching, don't.
I don't know if he has the enthusiasm to do this.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean, he's not college like, there's nothing college like him.
He's not one of those raw ra guys. I can't
imagine him recruiting. Cannot imagine, you know, meeting with parents
and being awkward and like, you know, your son, he's
really good. You're meeting with boosters and you got to
get him fired up. And just I can't The reason
(04:53):
why we're talking a little bit more about Belichick because
there is an article w r A L sports anchor
and reporter Pat Welter. Multiple sources with knowledge of the
inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say North Carolina's football
losses a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized
coaching staff, and a failure to communicate. Now, when you
(05:15):
say a divided locker room, that's because you have players
who came in transfer portal seventy players and then you
had probably thirty to forty who were leftovers and they
probably didn't get nil and some of these players coming
in did get nil money. Multiple sources with knowledge of
(05:36):
the inner workings of Belichick's program say results in the
field or a product of a divided locker room. It's
an unstructured mess. A source with firsthand knowledge of the
program told WRAL there's no culture, no organization. It's a
complete disaster for a guy who made his reputation on
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being a defensive guy. And North Carolina's program was being
sold as the thirty third NFL team. Through five games,
the tar Heels rank one hundred and twenty eighth in
points allowed per game. Do you realize there's only one
hundred and thirty six NCAA Division One football programs in FBS,
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so they're one twenty eight out of one thirty six.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
STATA the J start of the J we love your.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Statu, the day stata, the j stata, the j oh
damn give us.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Say thank you? Thank you? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, usually great college coaches that go to the
pros flame out, they could always go right back to
college because it worked. Like Nick Saban when it didn't
work out with the Dolphins, there was a line to
sign him when he went back. Steve Spurrier goes to Washington,
doesn't work out. Who wouldn't want to bring in Steve Spurr.
Does it not feel that way with Bill Belichick and
the NFL, Like it feels like it's the flame out
(07:04):
is too big right now?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, but it's because of his age too. Nobody's going
to take on his seventy three year old guy. How
long is he going to coach for? How enthusiastic is he?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I disagree a little bit because, like Pete Carroll gets
another job, if Nick Saban announced today he wanted to
work again, he would have fifty teams calling. I just
think that the brand of Belichick has been so hurt
the past year and a half that it's not even
salvag role in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, Pete Carroll has enthusiasm. Pete Carroll, you know he
looks alive. I mean, if Sabin went back, do I
think he'd be successful? Well, how long? Where's he going?
And you know the turnaround time. It's not like Mac
Brown ran a terrible program there. They reached for the
stars and they got Belichick. I don't think Bill was
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getting hired any other place. The Falcons didn't hire him Welkins,
So I don't think he's I can't see him coming
back and all of a sudden he's got magic to
I just want to know if he's all in like
that would be. It feels like they thought this was
going to be easier than what it is and you're
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in the ACC. I mean it's not the SEC and
it's not the Big Ten.
Speaker 10 (08:22):
Yes, Marvin, I think post tom Brady, his reputation really
took a hit right after Tom Brady left because a
lot of people this is the great coach, Like, we
don't want to put up with this if we don't
have Tom Brady and win all these championships.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
We're only putting up with this.
Speaker 10 (08:35):
Because we know we'll get to a super Bowl or
at least content for one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, and he doesn't have his quarterback. He brought in
one that got injured. Now he's got Brad Johnson's son
who's in there as well.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You're just watching it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They just don't seem like there's any pulse, like there's
no excitement. They almost feel that it gets to the inevitable.
We're gonna lose, but by how much. But as far
as Belichick, I'm going to give him the respect that
he's coming back for one more year. But I don't
know what his personal life is like. Is he excited
(09:15):
about being a coach. That would be the one thing
I would wonder. And you're bringing in all these transfers.
It's hard to bring in transfer no matter if you're
an established coach or not. Bill hasn't coached in college,
not as a head coach, and you're bringing in seventy players,
new players, and then a quick turnaround.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, pulling Deon Sanders did this exact same game plan
with transfers in twenty twenty three. They got a lot
of pub They were only four and eight that year,
but the following season he had a lot of talent.
They were nine and four and for Colorado fans, nine wins.
They were begging for that for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but you're not exactly playing a you know, a
tough schedule. You got your son as your quarterback, and
you got Travis who is the best player in America.
I mean they were going to improve and then they
got an offensive line and then they were formidable. But
this isn't happening with Bill. I mean, Dion's gonna sell now.
(10:15):
He's got a personality. Bill doesn't have that. Bill doesn't
He's not doing that. You're lucky to play for him.
It's not he's lucky.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
To have you. Aiden in Utah? Hi, Aiden? What's on
your mind?
Speaker 12 (10:32):
ADP? Good morning? I got two things real quick. First thing,
Fritzy twenty thirteen Super Bowl Denver Seattle. When Seattle scores
their seventh touchdown, how do you want Broncos radio network
to react to that? You want them to have some enthusiasm.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
They probably do not have enthusiasm. You have to recall
it as it is.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
But I understand the emotion has to be you know,
you have to consider the emotion when you're doing a
local game.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But there's got to be a little bit of a
happy medium.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's you're not getting out of this. You know that
I'm not getting out of it. No, you're not.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
You stuck that enthusiasm What I mean everyone's jumping on that.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I was looking for the word there that you
were finding the word. Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Well then now somehow acknowledging a big play by the
other team that but not enthusiastically. There's got to be
another word for that, not reveling. You're not cheering for
that to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Rody in New Mexico. Hey, Rody, By the way, if
Belichick would go to the Dolphins, then he could become
the all time winning his coach while doing it with
Don Shuler's team. If that would actually happen. Okay, Hey Rody,
Hey Dan, good more, good morning.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
So I got two things I'm allowed Fritzy, I'm a
Denver Bronco fan. Last Friday he said I'm gonna watch
Denver probably lose to the Eagles or something like that.
We got to stick together, we got to have better attitudes.
And another things, Dan, is the Chiefs are they getting
Are they worse? Or is the rest of NFL learn
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how to play them to beat them.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, I think that was a couple of years ago
that they were going to keep everything defensive backs would
keep everything in front of them. They weren't going to
allow Tyreek Hill, you know, the speedsters to get behind.
There weren't going to be these big plays. So they
became a defensive defense first team, and they ran the
ball and then it felt like Mahomes would figure something
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out late in the game and that was their recipe.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Thank you for the phone call, But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Think that they defense has figured out this is the
best way to be able to compete with Kansas City.
Do I think Kansas City is still a very good team.
I do, But that's a game that they should have won.
They had their opportunities. Mahomes with a pick six, bad kickoff,
and Jacksonville answered. Jacksonville, did that we something that we
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didn't expect them to do. They answered against the best
quarterback in football. And that's saying a lot. And you know,
maybe it's not as much Jacksonville as regressing. Maybe or
the Chiefs are regressing Jacksonville. Maybe he is improving. You know,
new coach was the offensive coordinator with Baker Mayfield, so
maybe maybe you're seeing the beginnings of the Jags being
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a playoff team, a good team.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Paul the new coach to the Jaguars co and
he caught a lot of heat with that first press conference,
and it was like his bandwagon didn't last a day,
and you know, like everyone's like, this guy is off putting.
It's kind of it was.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It was awkward.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But also remember they didn't know if he was going
in for the interview.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, it was kind of back and forth.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Buck Well, they didn't know where he was. And then
he's not interviewing, and then he is interviewing, then he
takes the job, and then he gets there and that
opening press conference doom maaull.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He was goofy's but it's good when he's when you're winning,
he's goofy.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yes, let's see Kinsley in Indiana. Kinsley, Hi, hey Kinsley.
Speaker 13 (14:12):
For ten eighty three pounds.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
All right, what's on your mind? Kinsley?
Speaker 13 (14:22):
I'm homesick with my dad watching the show. We're just
calling to ask where you're going to be at the
little game show?
Speaker 12 (14:33):
What building?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Well, we're going to be outside.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now you would probably have to take off from school,
but we'll be outside of a pub called Legends, and
that's right on campus there right by the stadium.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yes, Paul I sent a sore throat coming later next
week for Kinsley.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sell it kid, if you would like to come out
and say hello, that would be great. Kinsley.
Speaker 13 (15:04):
We'll be on Fabreak that week.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, then you're good. We'll see you there in
South Bend either Thursday or Friday. And thanks for calling,
and I hope you feel better.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
All right, that's that's Kinsley.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
That's adorable.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So thank you, Todd. We have two people who are
going to show up. It'll be Kinsley and his dad,
so two people will be in the audience.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yes, Paul, do any of you guys? I know the answer.
But have a memory where your dad pulled you out
of school healthy to go see a game, a show,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 14 (15:41):
No, none, no, wow, All right back to you, Marvin,
I know no, yeah, Mark, Marvin, definitely, definitely, yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I had the opposite happened to me.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I wanted to pitch in a little league game, but
because I had a little cough and cold, my mom
wouldn't let me go downstairs and pitching in a little
league game, And.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I got to watch.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I could see the little field from my apartment building,
watching us lose thirty two to two in.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
The game that I was was repitching it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You could have shut him down.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
We probably still would have got killed, but it wouldn't
have been thirty two to two. I could assure you
of that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You were Clayton Kershaw before Clayton Kershaw, weren't you.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I had my moments.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I struck out eighteen bats in a six inning game
once I lost three to one because I hit some
bat as I walked the through to whatever did go
all the out of strikeouts though.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
All right, speaking to great baseball mad Dog Russo will
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
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Speaker 4 (17:34):
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Speaker 4 (17:50):
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Speaker 2 (17:51):
Nine Eastern, it'll be Phil Simms with Kyle Brentant discussing
the Super Bowl between the Giants and the Broncos. Chris,
good to see you again. Finish this sentence. If the
Yankees get swept, what.
Speaker 17 (18:05):
Yeah, big embarrassment. Good job, Danny, why's a pleasure? Bull's
going nowhere? I think you could have made a case
if they had lost the Red Sox again, then maybe
despite his contract extension, you could have made that case.
You know, he's had a lot of injuries. He navigated
the team pretty well. Good job there by beating Boston.
(18:25):
You know, maybe they ran into a bus soil here.
You know, I'm the Yankees will probably chuck it up
to you know, they were in a hole. Next year
they got the young pitcher in Shittler throwing cole back.
You still have Wrdawn sitting there with Freed. You know
they'd be a little better off. But again, this would
be another year where the Yankees don't, you know, go
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they here's the bottom line. Since two thousand and nine,
they won one World Series game.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
That's it. I mean, you can debate this anytime you want.
Speaker 17 (18:55):
This is the Yankees, who have the biggest payroll in
baseball and right there with the Dodgers, and they've won
one World Series game in fifteen years, and chances are
they won't win another one this year.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Because I do think you and I probably you love
the baseball.
Speaker 17 (19:08):
I think the Blue Jays will probably figure out a
way to win another game, and then the Yankees are
going to lose the divisional series to Toronto and that
is going to sting.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
But I don't think there's going to be any drastic changes.
Speaker 17 (19:20):
I think they're relatively pleased with how the year went
based on losing Coal Boone. The fans don't like Boone,
but the Yankee brass loves them. So if imagine he's
a good representative for them of you know, his good
media guy. He sends the message correctly, he listens to
what they wanted to do, so he's not going anywhere either.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I think they're chalcoling up.
Speaker 17 (19:41):
They ran into a buzzsaw in his Blue Jay team.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mentioned this in the first hour of the show.
There have been one hundred and eighty nine pitches of
at least one hundred miles per hour in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wow, Yes, that's where we're headed. That is That is analytics, correct.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
That is analytics, Danny. And there's too many relievers.
Speaker 17 (20:05):
You know, it was so much fun to see Scruble
against Cleveland early in that series because he went seven
eight innings. Cloche against the Yankees when he pitched him
to the bottom of the eighth last week. The entertainment
aspect of baseball, we've lost it. You and I grew
up with Gibson with sever You maybe with Kofax, not me,
(20:26):
but you maybe with Kofax. Where you saw these big
pitchers go out there and have to navigate a lineup the.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Third time through.
Speaker 17 (20:33):
Jim Palmer's another one, catfish Hunter, and that was always
fun to see the big Hall of Famer how he
gets through.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
You know that big three, four, five.
Speaker 17 (20:43):
In the lineup in the eighth and ninth inning, and
you don't have that anymore.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I mean, look it, what look of what has occurred here?
Speaker 17 (20:48):
I mean the Yankees took out heel bottom of the
third the other night with two outs. I mean, the
kid had a no hitter about the top of the
sixth the other day in Toronto, in the sixth inning,
and they took them out of.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
The game after seventy eight pitches.
Speaker 17 (21:02):
Boyd got taken out of the game against the in
Game one against San Diego after fifty eight pitches.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
I mean, it's just the way it is. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 17 (21:10):
They've ruled the aspect of it, the entertainment aspect of it.
You and I and most fans can't pick out You
can't pick these relievers out of a lineup, yet they
dominate these games in a sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth inning.
You know, it is the way it is it's you know,
baseball needs to fix it.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I don't know how they're going to do it.
Speaker 17 (21:27):
The analytics have become more important than the entertainment aspect
of the sport, and it's a problem.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
That's why it was good to see the Yankee.
Speaker 17 (21:34):
Right hander pitch in the eighth inning, ninth inning in
Game three, win eight innings in that game.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
There's something different. It was something fun again. The great pitcher,
the starter.
Speaker 17 (21:44):
Watching him perform late in these playoff games when you
and I were growing up was theater. And we've lost
out in the sport and it's a major problem, and
Baseball knows it.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I'm not sure what they can do about it, though
they know it. They know it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But you know, the dog your starting staff has been great.
It's their bullpen that's terrible, terrible they're starting and that
has been unbelievable, right.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
And that's you know, that's the weakness that the Dodgers have.
Speaker 17 (22:11):
I was lose surprised last night in bringing a kid
from Japan living earlier in that ninth inning, you think
he wanted to try trying to see if he can
get three outs with a three one lead, so to
get him back on track.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
But Snell comes out after six innings. But if the
Dodgers have a buggaboo, that's it. If the Dodgers are
going to lose, it's going to be that you know.
Speaker 17 (22:30):
Eighth, ninth, seventh innings where they're gonna lose a terrible game.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And last night could have been that game.
Speaker 17 (22:36):
I mean last night, I mean, let's face it, Snell
comes out, they got a four up in lead, and
you know, if they don't make a great play in
that bunt, who knows, they might lose a historically bad
game blowing a full one lead in the ninth, and
maybe they show some vulnerability together a little nervous Philadelphia
feels good about themselves.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
They get to split it home.
Speaker 17 (22:55):
And you know, we have a situation where the Dodgers
gonna get kicked off. Now you know they're up to Oh,
they're going to figure out a way to win another
game and they're.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Gonna win that series.
Speaker 17 (23:03):
The Dodgers issue, as you just said, is that short
relief in that seventh, eighth and ninth inning. And now
we'll see maybe this twenty one year old is going
to be the answer. They spend the game two on
and fifty million, and he did a great job in
Game one, so maybe they have corrected that too. I
mean the Dodgers are you know, they don't. They're a
great team. I mean, Dan, think about their team. They
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are top three in the lineup, is tremendous. Then you
got Taoscar Hernandez, kik Hernandez gets big hits, Will Smith,
who's hurt.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
We all know how good he is. Let's throw on
Max Muncy.
Speaker 17 (23:36):
And then they have, you know, guys like snell Yamamoto,
Old tany Oh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And by the way, here's Glasno making two in a
million a pitch him in Game four. I mean, they
are a great, great team.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Let's be honest talking to you.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Christopher mad Dog Russo mad Dog unleashed on Sirius XM
channel eighty two and he is one of the host
co hosts of ESPN's First Take. I thought about you
on this topic that we use championships as a metric
for greatness for quarterbacks and NBA players, but we don't
do that for baseball players.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Why yeah, I.
Speaker 17 (24:09):
Mean, because you know Ted Williams never won a title,
but he only gets up four times a game, and
is it his fault?
Speaker 7 (24:15):
That they never had any tremendous starting pitching.
Speaker 17 (24:17):
You know, cob never won a title with Detroit, and
he's one of the all time greats.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Never won a title, lost a couple of World Series. Yeah,
I mean it is a little tricky. I mean, you
know Madden, he never won a championship with the Yankees.
Speaker 17 (24:30):
I think it's because the pitcher dominates so much. So
if we look at baseball from from an eight man perspective,
we don't look at it that.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Way because there's not as much impact they can have
on a game.
Speaker 17 (24:44):
With the baseball debate about the great Hall of Famer
in the big spot, we do with the pitching because
he's going to get the ball a couple of times
in a short series. And that is where I have
always had some trouble with Kershaw because Kershaw he's won
of I and Kershaw is a tremendous regular season pitcher,
but if you look at Kershaw in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
He's been very mediocre.
Speaker 17 (25:08):
He's got a four to four to five ERA, he's
given up thirty home runs in his postseason starts, and
he has never been a great postseason performer.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
That is the one.
Speaker 17 (25:18):
Guy that you can label like the quarterback, like the
center in basketball, that for whatever the reason, his regular
season prowess doesn't translate into the postseason. And he did
win a title in twenty twenty in the in the
pandemic and beat Tampa, and he pitched pretty well in
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that run. He pitched good in Game five. But we
don't look at it the same way because the everyday
player Danny, as you know, doesn't have the same influence
on a game as the starting pitcher has. So when
we look at it in baseball, if you want to
grade the starting you know, Maddix was never great in
the postseason.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
No.
Speaker 17 (25:58):
Three, seven, four, lifetime, all right, never great in a postseason.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
And that's why a guy like Smolts and that's.
Speaker 17 (26:04):
Why a guy like you know, to a certain degree shilling,
that's why you know you'd like to have them in
a big game because you're confidence in them in a
big spot. Their regular season isn't as good, but you
know what a big game you can rely on it.
So I think it's more the pitcher that you discussed
more than the everyday player.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I got into it with Peter King. We kind of
went back and forth on the Hall of Fame and
we were talking about, you know, that is Russell Wilson
playing himself out of the Hall of Fame, And I said,
you know, Matthew Stafford has one Super Bowl win and
I think he was a pro bowler one time. Russ
got to two Super Bowls and he was a pro
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bowler ten times. So his regular season stats are better
than Eli Mannings. But so it feels Manning's going in.
People don't debate that, but Russ is playing his way
out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Do you agree.
Speaker 17 (27:00):
Yeah, that's a very that's going to be a very
close vote. I think that pass hurts him too. The
interception against the Patriots. You know, with Malcolm Butler one
of the worst.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
It hurts Pete Carroll.
Speaker 17 (27:10):
It's one of the worst players of all time, and
he throws a pick which would't won a Super Bowl.
I think that is a little bit of a factor.
You know, he's been on a million teams. Now, you know,
Denver didn't work well, the Giants hasn't worked well, Pittsburgh
didn't work well, ended poorly in Seattle. I think that's
a problem too. I think your point about Stafford is fair.
He's very underrated historically. I mean he was on a
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bad Detroit team. I understand, you know, God played well
for the Lions, but he was on a bad Lions team.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
He's done a great job for the Rams. He plays
well in big games.
Speaker 17 (27:42):
You know last year they had the Eagles beat he
played great, played well in the Super Bowl, played well
two years ago in Detroit in the playoff game. Stafford's
very underrated historically, and he's going to be a Hall
of Famer. And Manning, Danny is about five games, Let's
be honest. Manning is about a game in two games
in Green Bay. It's about a game in San Francisco,
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and it's a two games against Brady.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That is Manning's career.
Speaker 17 (28:06):
Now, five heroic games beat Brady, especially the second one
you know, got beat up against the Niners was great,
you know, green Bay and minus two degree weather, he
out played far he and he won two titles.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
So and he did it in New York, which you
know is a big factor too.
Speaker 17 (28:26):
Very few quarterbacks outside of Plunkett, you know who didn't
get He's not going to make the Hall of Fame.
But if you win two Super Bowls, chances all you're
gonna make it.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
And he did it in New York, and he beat
Brady twice. But his career, if.
Speaker 17 (28:38):
You look at Manning and you be fair about it,
his career comes down to five games.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Now they're postseason games. They come down to five games.
Speaker 17 (28:45):
Wilson's a better regular season quarterback than Manning, but not
the postseason success. Stafford is a better quarterback than Manning,
but not the postseason success too. And you and I
probably if my life came down to it, I would
definitely take Stafford over Manning. Would you take Wilson over Manning?
Game the win field life? Who would you take Wilson
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or Manning? I'd probably take Manning. I probably would.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, let me throw this out.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I wouldn't take it, stef If David Tyree doesn't make
that catch, Chris, they don't win the game.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, so like that's he didn't go to the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I agree with you. Excellent play and the and the.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And the first win in the Super Bowl was the
defensive front. They crushed.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
That was it. Yeah, they and he won the MVP
in that game, Manning.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And yeah, but he shouldn't have been you know, that
should be in the defensive line.
Speaker 17 (29:41):
Absolutely, very much like Grady's first year against Saint Louis.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Yes, he shouldn't have won the MVP either, ven A
Terry could have wonted.
Speaker 17 (29:49):
The defense did a great job on Warner, but the
quarterback gets to break.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But you are one hundred percent right.
Speaker 17 (29:55):
You can make a very strong case that David Tyree
is the reason.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Eli's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 17 (30:03):
Yeah, because one super Bowl would not do it.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
It would have.
Speaker 17 (30:06):
Taken It needs the eaty, his body of work needs
a second title, and he got it, and he got it.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
That turned out to be his first title, but he
got it. Now.
Speaker 17 (30:15):
He did a great job in the play. He dodged
the rush. He you know, he found the open man.
He did score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter with
his offense. They would you know it was what was
the score? I think it was seven to three, maybe
whatever the score was. I mean he did have two
drives in the fourth quarter, Kevin boss Court, the t
you know.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
The tight end quarter pass.
Speaker 17 (30:34):
But you're right one hundred percent now, But that goes
back to the original question.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
You had a game of Dan Patrick had a game
for his life. Would you take Manning or would you
take Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
If if I get Russ Seattle, Seattle, Russ, I would take.
Speaker 17 (30:57):
Him because of his run and things like that.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes, he was the best player on the field in
that game, that Super Bowl that he lost.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
New England had no answer for him. He was unbelievable
in that game.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And it's you know, do you agree that Pete Carroll
and Darryl Beble wanted him to be the MVP and
not Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You call the pass.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Play, it's like we blame Russell instead of crediting Malcolm
Butler with an unbelievable play and Russ, why you would
call that instead of a run pass option, Like I
don't know, I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But you know.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
If you well, Pete Carroll, I agree with you on
that point. Pete Carroll's a number one goat of that game.
It's not Wilson.
Speaker 17 (31:41):
I mean, they called the wrong play and they got
more Shawn Lynch sitting there, So you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Wilson is not that, but he's number two or Bevil's too.
Take your pick.
Speaker 17 (31:51):
The coaches are one and then the quarterbacks two. But
I think that your other point is a good point.
I think they're a look at mat but he had
a bad back.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
But you get the idea. Sometimes how you.
Speaker 17 (32:04):
End your career, if you're a borderline Hall of Famer,
is more important than what you did in your career.
And Wilson is going to end his career, you know,
in a way that is not impressive, and that is
going to be your lasting memory of him against you know,
the Steelers and the Giants and Denver and Peyton and
(32:25):
Sean Payton got him out of there, and he didn't
finish well in Seattle, and I think because of that,
we seem to forget for an eight or.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Nine year period he was a great quarterback, and you
are right, he was.
Speaker 17 (32:36):
Great, but the last three or four, four or five
he's been very average. Manning ended his career with the
same team, and the lasting impression of Manning in a
lot of ways and Troy Aikman, we even brought it
up last night, was the Mario manningham pass which beat Brady.
He mentioned it in the game last night. So as
(32:58):
a result of that, I.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Think that you know, I think Manning, you know, you
don't have a bad taste in your mouth. Now, do
you agree with me go back to pitching for a second.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Now.
Speaker 17 (33:09):
I know everybody loves Kershaw, but do you agree with
me that Kershaw's postseason almost gets forgotten because he's been
so good in the regular season and the average baseball
fan doesn't realize that he's been a bad postseason pitcher.
You think I'm being too harsh there, or do you
think there's a good point to be made.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I heard you say this on your show and it
felt like you were going out of your way to it.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Did you felt that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, because you know, Maddix and Glavin weren't good postseason pitchers.
I agree, and we don't mention that very often about
those two guys. And Maddix won three hundred and fifty
four games, I mean Kershaw, Yes, that that is bad,
bad numbers, bad numbers, but when you win that title,
(33:54):
I mean, Maddox, they won one World Series, so that's it.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I mean, Hershaw just I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
There's certain guys that were great in the postseason and
they were good in you know, Jack Morris or Smoltz
or Shilling. They just love the moment and I you know,
I just have great appreciation for them. But yeah, it
did feel like you were.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Well, I gotta be careful with that. Dad just said that.
Speaker 17 (34:19):
I take when you tell me that, I'll be careful
and I'll be fair about Kershaw.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And well, I know you got to run, but I'll
be fair on Kershaw. You know the old eye.
Speaker 17 (34:27):
You know what happened in Game five in twenty and
seventeen again juice, I mean, supposedly that's when the Astros
are cheating folks with your cans. And supposedly they laid
to Tom Praducci to me this, and he would know.
Supposedly they laid off thirty eight sliders in the game
and he got bombed. In that game they lost thirteen twelve.
(34:48):
They laid off thirty eight sliders. Now did they lay
off thirty eight sliders or they know where they were coming.
If that's the case, maybe you give Kershaw a big break.
I don't know how you feel about it, but that's Chris.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I ran into somebody who in the Astros organization this
summer and he said that Kershaw was tipping his pitches.
So yes, he said, we knew because I talked about
the cheating. He goes, No, Kershaw, who's tipping his pitches?
I said, but you guys still cheat it. He said, yes, yes, well.
Speaker 17 (35:20):
Then you gotta trust So then the question becomes, do
you trust a guy who told you that or is
he trying to protect his team from not taking something
away from that?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Great, it is great to see you. Thanks again for.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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Take tomorrow Mad Dog Unleashed Serious XM eight two, also
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TV at nine am EA nine pm Eastern tomorrow with
Phil Simms and Kyle Brandt. Take a break, last call
for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow
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after this.
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
We started out the show, we were talking about Lebron James.
He's going to make his quote unquote second decision and
would this be.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
About his retirement and I was saying.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, this is going to be something that is product related. Well,
here is Lebron James talking about making his second decision.
Speaker 18 (36:31):
Well, everyone's on pens and needles. Across the country. You
ready to go, Lebron, where's the powder left it at home? Lebron?
Fans want to know where you're taking your talents this year.
What's your decision In it's fall, man, this is tough.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
In it's fall, I'm going to be taking my talents
to HENNESSYVSOP VSOP.
Speaker 18 (36:55):
And this was the conclusion you woke up with this morning.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
That was a conclusion I woke up with this morning.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Why I feel like it's gonna give me the best
opportunity to win more at hosting.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Not only that, win a signature cocktails. We're not having
a good time. We had a pressing guests, ween at.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
Making memory, we at making it look easy, win at
leaving people wanting more.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hmm Okay, well it went as I thought it would.
That they would kind of mock the Jim Gray decision
and when he took his talents to South Beach, so
kind of went as scripted. Didn't know what the product
was going to be. But now it's it's Hennessy.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, Paul had the opposite effect on me and pick
up some more Hennessy after the show. It worked if
I could buy more and buy.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
More okay, all right, Uh, Marvin, how would you grade that?
Speaker 11 (37:59):
Laugh?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Todd? How about you?
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Yeah? I found it a little cringey. Didn't love it.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, seating exactly what thought it was going to be. Yeah. Yeah,
he's not announcing his retirement like this. Slightly embarrassed for
even paying attention to it. Really from being here. Yeah yeah.
As soon as he started, you know, they did the
well where's the powder?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I no, okay, Well, you know, maybe Hennessy's getting what
they wanted. You got publicity here, yes, Mormon.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I know Michael Jordan wouldn't do this, couldn't help us.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Sorry, alrighty.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Final results of the poll questions, Seaton, if you'll run
through those this day in Sports History, last call for
phone calls. Mike Greenberg. Greeney is going to join us
on the program tomorrow, Get Up and Uh. Jimmy Raw
former Philly he's doing some TV work while rooting for
the Phillies during the Phillies Dodgers series, So he'll join us, all.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Right, Satan.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
Seventy percent of the audience, Ay, Trevor Lawrence's career is
going to be disappointing rather than great, and next fall,
Bill Belichick will be unemployed. That's fifty two millions, followed
by working in the media.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I guess maybe in a studio role, but can't see
him breaking down games during a game moves too quick.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Do you think Bill Belichick in that situation would be
more likely to be fired or quit if he's no
longer at North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Uh, it'll be a buyout.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, So maybe a combination of we don't want you, okay,
pay me, and then I'll leave.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yes, Tom, Yeah, I see that mutual parting of ways,
which we all know was never fifty to fifty down
the middle of that.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I just don't know how much enthusiasm he has for this.
I just I never get that feeling.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's priorities appear to have changed a little bit this
day in sports history, Paul, just.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
One of our favorites. Nineteen eighteen, Georgia Tech football beat
Cumberland College two hundred and twenty two to zero. Georgia
Tech ran the ball every play for nine hundred and
seventy eight yards, not one.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Pass, okay, and then they named the Heisman after John Heisman,
who was the head coach at Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, front runner.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
What happened to sportsmanship? Yes, like John Heisman scheduled Cumberland College.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Cumberly got a payout check though big payout.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Oh they did ah huge? Yeah yeah, yeah they're nil.
Players didn't step up back then, Todd? Would you learn today?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
You don't know how good his team is going to be,
but you're calling it seven five point center?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Wendy will be the NBA MVP this coming season.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well, you know what I forgot that? I said Luka
don Chik would be the MVP, so I have to
go with that. But Wemby will finish second, all right,
Seaton stumble Rooskie is a new play. Yeah, the stumble Rooski. Marvin,
what did you learn?
Speaker 11 (41:14):
Apparently going to a cookout is a punishment?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Paul? What did you learn?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's Tennessee time?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
We all learned?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
You got caught up in Cooper flagging all the NBA
preseason action last night that was going on.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Have a great day, everybody. We'll be back tomorrow. Dan
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