June 12, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan brings on long time LA Times reporter Bill Plaschke to talk about what Jerry West meant to basketball in the city of Los Angeles. And NBA legend Reggie Miller also drops by to give his thoughts on Mr. Clutch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the final hour on this Wednesday. Basketball coming up tonight,
It'll be Game three in Dallas, Mavericks favored by two
and a half. Reggie Miller will join us. Coming up
in a little bit. La Times columnist Bill Plashki will
stop by. We were going to have Bill on to
talk about his column where he tears into the Lakers'
front office and the embarrassment of what happened with the
(00:26):
recruitment of Dan Hurley. And then we got word a
little while ago that Jerry West had passed away at
the age of eighty six, and Bill needed a little
time to kind of collect his thoughts on this, and
we certainly respect him, and you know the process of
trying to put it together what Jerry West meant to
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the Los Angeles community, the Lakers, you know, his impact.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
On the NBA.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, it's a long, long, legendary career, unmatched, unparalleled.
And if you have been listening to the show kind
of throughout the rundown here what we were going we
were gonna have ice Cube on. We had other things
to talk about, but you know, Jerry deserves my reflection
our memories. We brought back when we had Jerry on
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after Kobe had passed away. We're going to bring back
when I had a conversation with him about being the
logo and recognizing that he was the logo and he
didn't want any credit. I mean, it was it was
typical Jerry didn't want credit. One of the most competitive
people I've ever met, and passing away at the age
of eighty six. So we'll hopefully have Bill Plashk he'll
(01:38):
join us coming up here in a little bit. The
phone lines are all full. Everybody has thoughts about Jerry West.
I'd say, you know, called in, but we're backed up here.
We'll try to get to those phone calls as well.
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USA officially announced their women's basketball team. Now, I was
trying to find out if there is an alternative list
so players who might be put on the team, and
I was told yesterday there is no list. But I
think that people have this impression that, you know, here's
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here's the top twelve and then thirteen is Caitlin Clark
and fourteen is whoever.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They've had discussions about if they have to replace players,
they will have, you know, these players available, and that's
due to injury. There might be two roster spawns available.
Maybe Caitlin Clark gets one of those roster spots. Jerry
West was on the program many many times over the years.
(03:07):
We take you back to May twentieth of twenty fifteen,
and here is the question I asked Jerry West. We
see the NBA ball, and we see the logo, and
we've seen the picture that is you in that you
are the logo, right.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You know, I really don't like to talk about that
because I think it's very uncomfortable for the NBA. But
there's a very interesting story in the New York Times
that the man who designed the logo. He said, yes,
that's Jerry West, but An it has to be an honor.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, okay, what do you think when you look at
the ball and that's you. You're playing against the Trailblazers.
I think you're driving on the left side against the Trailblazers, right.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm not even sure, Dan, did you make the shot?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Jerry?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, but you know I shot, But you're
the low I thought that that's one. That's one of
the great nicknames of all time. Now you were mister
clutch Zeke from Cabin Creek. But the logo, it doesn't
get any better than that.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's flattering, it's really flattering. But honestly, Dan, I don't
really I don't think like that. That's just not me.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I'm so happy that I was able to live my
dreams as a kid and to be able to do
something that I absolutely loved. I loved the competition. I
like I told you, I like how I felt the
day of the game, and I've lived my dream. Most
people don't get a chance to do it. I'm sure
you're living your dream today, but I'm living a dream.
(04:42):
My dad would be in tears watching this. Well, because
you were you were his is one of his idols.
Well thank you, and I can't help but sit here
think he would watch this now and then know I'd
made it well. As I say, you know, I'm extremely
proud of being an athlete. Sometimes it's a little I
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killd of like to fly under the radar. I have
never tried to place any importance for myself as as
a person or as an athlete. I don't I'd like
to think I'm normal, and sometimes people don't want you
to be normal. And last night at the game up
in Oakland, I was there and I was walked down
after the game, and you know, our fans are incredible
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up there. The best fans I have ever seen in
my life. I don't care where you go in the league,
these are the best fans. And they're so loud, they're
so vocal, and they haven't had a winning situation up
there for a while. But I was going out after
the game, I was with my wife and I said
to myself, they were these people in the hallways, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
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I was so embarrassed. I was really embarrassed because again,
that's not what makes me work. But you know, It's
thrilling that people recognize he's maybe your contribution to to basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I told you tough to get him to take credit
for that, but you know, he got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He was very humble with that.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It is him. He is the logo. And that's as
good a nickname as anybody has. You're the logo of
a sport. Uh. Bill Plashk woke up to the news
that Jerry had passed away.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I appreciate you joining us. I know we're going to
talk about the Lakers, but Bill Plansky of the La
Times joining us.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Thoughts running through your head.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Now just very so sad. Dan, we lost LA's lost
his basketball consciences, basketball cornerstone. And he was he was
the logo. He was a legend. He was his presence
when he when he when he go to a game,
he's still you know, he stood tall with the shock
of white hair and the furrowed expression. Every everybody was
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drawn to him. He was such a bangutter presence. And
you know what, for me, what gets right now is
I think it's very sad. His death was announced by
the Clippers, and I love the Clippers, I love Steve Wamer,
I love the organization. But Jerry was a Laker, and
I think we need to say that. Maybe you said
on the show, but he was a Laker. He was
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the first draft pick of the LA Lakers when he
came to LA in nineteen sixty. He built the Lakers
as a player, He's built the Lakers as a coach.
As a JM best executive in sports history, by the way,
the best sports executive in the history of sports. He
built and cultivated Showtime and Shaq and Kobe. That was
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all him. And the fact that he had a falling
out of the Lakers over money and over all kinds
of different things, that's really sad because he's a Laker
and he'll be will remember it. He was great for
the Clippers, and again I love the Clippers, other against
the Clippers, but I just wish. I think Jerry probably
would wish at the very end of people would remember
him as a Laker.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, why was there that falling out?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I know he wanted to come back, can maybe end
his career, book end his career with the Lakers, and
it just never happened.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, I think there's a fine over initially was over
money over power. For Phil Jackson, came in, and Phil
Jackson had a lot of power and Jerry didn't have
as much power when Philled became more in control. And
in later years it just got kind of it just
got kind of snippy. I mean when Genie Buss listed
her at five best Lakers, remember that a two couple
of years ago, five best Lakers of all time. She
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tweeted it out or something, and he wasn't. He wasn't
one of them. He was arguably the greatest Laker of all.
That's my point. He's everybody says his magic in Kobe,
but Shack was around for both. I mean, Jerry West
was around for both of them. Jerry West, you know,
don't forget he he traded for Kobe, he signed Shack,
he cultivated magic in showtime. He's to my mind, he's
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the greatest Laker ever and the greatest executive sports there.
And it's just really such a day of mourning at
the such a day of loss, such a great, great loss.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And this on the heels of the Lakers whipping again
on head coach with Dan Hurley, I know you gave
them both barrels. Uh recap what you uh, what you
wrote about the Lakers Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It's said. It seems so trivial talking about today way
Jerry West's death, But yes, it was. I just thought
it was embarrassing. I thought the college coach flies out
to LA to see the Lakers. He's offered twice the
money he's making it so for a chance to be
the coach of the most celebrated franchise in professional sports.
He looks around, spends the day looking around, and he
(09:28):
says nah and goes home. What does that say about
the Lakers? How far are they following the fact that
they couldn't get I know Dan, Dan Hurley is a
great family guy in the grade. He's coast guy and
wanted to stay home. But this is this is a
lot of the Lakers, the Lakers. This is the same
team that top Phil Jackson out of retirement twice, the
same team that that that got shot, that got Lebron,
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got a d. They get what they want. There were
great franchise, They were great franchise. It's just humiliating the
fact that they couldn't close this deal on Dan Hurley
just it's humiliating for the franchise. It's a huge step back,
a huge blow to Rock Palaka. So I mean Dan,
Dan yustn't seen what he what he saw. He was
not liked, didn't want to coach Lebron, probably didn't want
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to deal with all their front office machinations, didn't want
to do as a team that maybe he's not gonna
make the playoffs for several years. It's just a damning.
It's just a it's just damning the Lakers. There's no
way around it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, the perception hit is you know, because it's the Lakers.
You don't turn down the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
I mean especially you know, he's won two championships. He
has nothing else to prove in Connecticut and your doubleness,
the double his salary for the most highly celebrated franchise.
I know there were time with the subjects for seventeen championships,
but the most celebrated champions franchise in sports history, the
most covered, the most disagree. It's Hollywood. Nobody turned nobody,
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nobody from the stores Connecticut comes and turns down Hollywood. Nless.
Hollywood's really messing up. Hollywood really messed up this time.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, once she came back, built without a remon in principle, I.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Said it was over real.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was done that, he wasn't going back. Okay, So
what's next for the Lakers situation?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
In your opinion?
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And I hope it's not JJ Redick and I've written
about that. He's he's not He's not a coach, he's
never coached before. I'm worried they're gonna go back to
JJ with JJ Redick. If not, I know they got this.
James Brego is on the the list. Why not Sam Cassell?
Why not? In my opinion, why not go up there?
Go get Becky Hammond. I'm serious, Why not to go
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completely outside the box?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Because there wherever's gonna coach her?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Is gonna coaching for two years to get fired? Probably anyway.
I mean, it's so it's so bad, it's so since
since since such disarray. Hell, why not draft Bronnie mc
brownie the player coach? I don't know, It's just gets
crazy out here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
How did you get this? How did you get this bad?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
They gave it because they gave the franchise to Lebron,
and Lebron up running into the ground. I mean, he's
been great on the court, but behind the scenes, he's
gone through coaches, he's gone through players, He told them
to get take Russell Westbrook. That didn't work out. They
kind of sold her soul to Lebron and they're sold.
Probably has to remain sold till Lebron leaves. And Lebron's
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not leaving anytime soon. He's coming back. He's in a
retire Laker. Only when he leaves will the money be
released and the freedom they have and the control they have,
then they can become the become the great Lakers again.
In fact, I'm thinking Dan Hurley probably got that. They
probably even gave him that control. They gave a six
year deal. Why wouldn't you come knowing you were you
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weren't to get fired. You got six years, seventy million dollars,
life changing money for the Lakers. And he says, no,
that's just, that's just I'm still stunned by that, by that,
by that move. I'm still sad that the Lakers have
fallen so far and I don't know where they go.
I would draft, I would hire Sam Facel. He's the
three NBA Championships coach since to coaches of the Celtics,
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well known out here, really good. He got a really
good coach. I'd hire him. But I'm sure. I'm sure
they'll go somewhere else that I've never heard somebody I've
never heard of who knows it's crazy, and it's it's crazy.
It's the Lakers. They should have their pick. But again,
once you give your soul to love to somebody else,
it's not yours. You gotta wait to get it back.
(13:17):
And again, this is the this is Lebron James's team
right now, it's this franchise, his organization. So probably Lebron
is gonna pick the coach, probably, and they're gonna draft.
We're gonna draft his son, Dann And they shouldn't draft
his son. They're gonna take him at fifty five. And
they shouldn't go anywhere near to that child, because he said,
there's so much pressure, it's gonna be so so ugly
out here, so much drama. If he comes to this
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team in the locker room and his dad let him
go somewhere else and become himself. Don't do that to him,
Don't do that to their family, don't do that to
their organization. Don't draft Ronnie. But I'm afraid they're gonna
do that because Lebron wants it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's a mess, I know, you got a busy morning.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts here, certainly on on
Jerry West, and thanks again for joining us. Thanks man,
that's Bill Plishkin. Yeah, I would love to see Bronni
go to the San Antonio Spurs. Get him in a
smaller market, let him develop with Victor Wembenyama less media there.
Maybe you get an opportunity. Pop can coach you there.
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Maybe you get a starting point guard. Maybe you can
learn that way. But you're stepping right into this spotlight
and there's no other spotlight like this one. All right,
let me take a break. I do have some phone calls.
I'll try to get those. Reggie millerwal Jonas coming up
next here on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (15:49):
We're gonna reschedule ice Cube. We were going to do
an interview with him the UH three on three league
that he has they debut this season this Saturday, and
and we'll talk to Cube more phone calls as well.
We bring in the Hall of Famer Reggie Miller Turner
Sports NBA and it's tough day here, reg as try
(16:11):
to trudge through this with the passing of Jerry West.
And of course I know you had many encounters conversations.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
If you'd like to share.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, I think I will start from the beginning and
kind of go through the many times I've had the
honor of just being in his presence. And it started
out an early age for me when I was at
UCLA getting phone calls from Jerry West. Now again I'm,
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you know, nineteen twenty years old, and remember those you know,
UCLA Pro basketball pickup games that we would have at UCLA.
He would always be around because at that time he
was somewhat the architect of those Laker teams, those showtime
Laker teams. And just getting phone call from him watching
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my game saying, well, you should think about doing this.
I would have done that work on this. I mean,
this is nineteen twenty year old Reggie. And then once
I made it to the league. N Tellum, who was
my agent, attorney at the time good friends with Jerry West.
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We would have not only conversations but meetups. I had
a chance to interview him a few times when I
had my own little local local show in Indiana and
just to talk basketball because he had such a brilliant,
brilliant basketball mind. He was always two or three steps ahead.
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So being a shooting guard and growing up in Los Angeles,
growing up in California Riverside, but watching the Lakers and
knowing the history of Jerry West was like a kid
in a Cannish store. I hung on every word he
said to me and have a chance to interview him
and to get tips from him. I was like I
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was a kid in a Cannis star. You couldn't tell
me anything. And our real last encounter because working with Turner,
every time we would come to the Laker games or
the Clipper games when he was working with the Clippers
at the time, we got a chance to pick his brain.
As soon as I walked into the staples he was there.
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He would give me a scoutering report, not only on
his own team, because he never held anything back. He
never held anything back, even on his own team. He
would give me scattering reports on the Lakers, the Clippers
and who they were playing. That's how advanced he was.
And you know, we have a term here in California.
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Right now, we're in June glue. I know you can't
see outside, but it's very misty, cloudy, ugly, and it's
one of those days where when something like this happens,
you know it's June gloom. When you think about the loss.
Just think about this. Two years ago, it was Bill Russell,
less than a month ago, Bill Walton. This is another
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huge gut blow and it's a little bit more personal
for me because I've you know, I've had a relationship
with Jerry West and when Kobe passed. I don't know
if you guys remember that show we were supposed to
air a Laker game, and remember we did that special
at Staples on the day. It was Charles Shaq, Ernie, myself,
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Dwayne Wade, and Jerry West. And I think this was
the most raw I've ever seen mister West in terms
of talking about Kobe and their relationships, because they were
very close as well. We were like in the and
before we were just all bawling listening to mister West
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described Kobe so I'm sorry to be long winded, but
I want to give mister West the proper, the proper
due he's earned and deserved. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I said earlier that it's not overstating this when he's
probably the most impactful person in the history of the NBA.
When you look at the player, coach, GM the logo
and you know you've been doing it. You know he
had been doing it at a very high level for
you know, seven decades, and that says an awful lot
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about you know, what he does, how he does it,
how he did it, and passing away at the age
of eighty six. There's no smooth way to make a segue,
but I'll segue into the Lakers missing out on Dan Hurley.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Why did that happen?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Number One? I don't think Dan was ready to leave Yukon.
And as much as they want to say, oh my god,
how is he going to turn down six year, seventy
million coming to California the state taxes, so really we're
talking about five or six million of that seventy million.
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So I don't think he was ready. I think he's
back to back champs at Yukon. It was a great
ploy by the Lakers. It was a great.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Try, but I think it was a great ploy by
Dan Hurley. I think this was a leverage play on
his part, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And I'm sure from what I've been hearing, Yukon redid
his deal too, So I mean that's great for him.
But it kind of looks like the Lakers have a
little bit of egg on their face. You know, here's
the Lakers seventeen NBA championships. You got Lebron, James Anthony Davis,
and you can't get this college coach, So a little
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bit of egg on their face. But again, I still
believe it's a desirable job, a very difficult job now,
but still the Lakers that you would you would be coaching.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
But why is it difficult?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Because everything you do, every decision you make, every trade
non trade, people want to know who's really running the Lakers.
Is it Genie? Is a Lebron? Is it Rob Polanka?
I mean there's a lot of things being thrown in
this gumbole pot of being the Lakers. So there's a
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lot of drama that comes with it, but man, it
is it's still a beautiful star. Sometimes you just got
to shine it up a little bit to make it
appeasing for someone to come coach.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Then okay, you can pick between the Lakers jump and
the Cavaliers opening.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I mean, if you're the Lakers, you're going to be
on national TV fifteen plus times it's the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, but you pause?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Are you telling.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But he's going to be He's there for the next
at least two years. You're probably taking his son. The
West is loaded. What's a better job because both are
open right now.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
You have an easier shot to get to a conference
finals and maybe an NBA finals if you take a
Cleveland job. If Donovan Mitchell resigns as well, Okay, we're
assuming Mitchell's there. They have the two bigs, Darius Darland,
who I heard there's some friction going on between him
and him and Donovan, so I don't know about that.
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But there's a more desirable opportunity if you're Cleveland. It's
a tough road if you're the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So what's that say about the Lakers job that you
look at Cleveland and say that maybe more advantageous than
going through being under the microscope with everything.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Look, you've got one newspaper, the Planes Dealer. I believe
it's called in Cleveland, and you've got a few Internet salutes,
big deal for the Lakers. You just had Bill blackfell right,
you gotta your Bill every single day talk about what
the Lakers should be doing. And you've got the whole
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Laker nation, which is worldwide after your throat after every
single game. So that's why Cleveland would be better suited.
And it depends on which coach is coming in. Is
it a coach with experienced that has heavy shoulders that
can handle the criticism, or is it a new beat
J Redick, for instance. If it's a JJ Reddick, that's
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a very difficult job as your first job to take
on the Lakers. If it's James Virego, who's been around
the league as an assistant, who's been a head coach,
he's been an associate head coach, I mean he kind
of knows the trials and tribulations of what's to come. See.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I think I think little things would bother JJ Reddick.
And I don't know Barrego. I know that he's been around,
he had a little stint as a head coach before,
but JJ watching him when he's on the mother Ship,
it feels like things bother him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Don't take the Laker job.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
If things bother you, I mean they that that'll they'll
eat you up.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
They'll eat you up.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
They will. But look, if your bff and close friend
is Leron James, and you have an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not even going to get credit if you win, Lebron
is gonna get credit.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Frank Vogel still gets credit for that bubble Bubble Champions did.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So not enough to keep him around Red that is true.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I mean, look at Dvini.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
They were just Western.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Ago.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I know, I know, we're talking to the Hall of
Famer back in Milwaukee, Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer
joining us. All right, I keep waiting for Kyrie, the
most talented player to ever play the game. It's time
to be talented coming up tonight. If you're not talented tonight,
you're not going to be around much longer. So what
adjustments can Dallas make to get back in this series?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Number One, they got to push the pace, they got
to run more. And it's you know, I was talking
to a few people. Indiana has played Boston probably the
best this postseason, and the reason why it is it
was all about pace. They pushed the pace and they
kept forcing it down Boston's throat. The problem with Indiana
is they didn't have any closers because Halliburton went down,
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and they were using guys that usually weren't in that role.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
TJ.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
McConnell, nim Hard. They had great games, but they they're
not closers.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
They're not used to that, so.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
That's why they lost them for But the pace, that
was one thing that was consistent three at the four games,
and that's why they were in three of the four games.
Right now, the pace is too slow and if if
Boston has a chance with Holiday White, we don't know
the availability of Porzingis, but Al Horford and Brown and Tatum,
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you get them in the half court setting and they
get a chance to adjust defensively and get those wingspans out,
you're not going to be able to score enough. The
pace has to be faster. Kyrie has to make quicker
decisions and you are one correct. Tonight's the game they've
got to win for their conferdence number one. But to
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make it a serious they win tonight, the series really
can shift. People don't understand. People think this is going
to be a gentleman's sweep. If Dallas wins tonight, things change. Well,
it depends on how they win, by the way, but
if they win tonight, the series does change mentally because
getting that first win, especially finals win, it turns the
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key for you and Kyrie. I hate to say it,
he's got to be a catalyst. Both have to be
playing well for Darren Jones, PJ. Washington, Gafford Lively for
all them to eat. If both of those guys, Luca
and Kyrie are not playing at a high level like
they did in the West during the West run, those
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other guys can't eat one or the other. It won't
work in the finals versus Boss.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Also with Chris Thoms perzingis you know, on the outside
looking in which somebody says, well, why don't you get
it shot up?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Why don't you?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I mean you played, you played a you know, two
decades in the NBA, Like, how many times would you
get something shot up so you could play in a
big game?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
How often does that happen anymore?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I never got shot up, even in the Conference finals
versus Chicago when I twisted my ankle and everyone's saying
you should get shot up because you don't know the ramifications.
Once that medicine wears off and the damage that will
have been done. Having said all that, this is the
NBA Finals, and lord knows if you'll ever be there again.
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You assume Boston will because they're a young team.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Would you ruther risk if you're poor zingis?
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Probably not, because you're up to zero. Anyways, Now, if
you're telling me I have a chance, Let's say Dallas
comes back and ties it to two and you don't
play these next two games, Well, you have an opportunity
to come back in game five, six, and seven if
you take these next because now I remember, there's two days.
They don't play again till Friday, and they don't play
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again until Monday, so you would have some time to
rest a little bit between games three and four and
possibly come back for Game five. I wouldn't get shot up.
I never would advise anyone to get shot because you
don't know about the ramifications afterwards. But always in the
back of my mind people say, and I will do
whatever it takes to win. You're in the NBA Finals.
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Don't do it. But I'm sure it's crossed. It will
have crossed his mind to get a shot.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Speaking of shots, everybody's got an opinion on Caitlyn Clark
not making the Olympic team.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
You got one, well, who are you going to take off?
Before I say this, who would you take off that
team and put her on? And then then we can
have the debate from there.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I wouldn't put her on. That was my argument is
who am I taking off? I don't think she's one
of the twelve best players right now. And these players
are veterans. You know, Sabrina iron Escue had to earn
her way onto this had to wait a couple of years. Yeah,
you know, you got twenty seven year olds, twenty eight
(30:40):
year olds, you got Tarassi, Who's what forty or forty one?
I get it, She's not I think she could use
a break. I don't think she's one of the twelve
best players. And people say, well, you've got a chance to.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Grow the game.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
How are you going to grow the game If she's
on the bench, she's not going to play, like she
can't make the roster. Now you're going to put on
Now she's one of the top two players on the team,
she would be sitting. She would be like Christian Latner
was on the Dream Team, not playing very much. Maybe
you tune in to watch warm ups.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Dador mic drop. Everything you just said is a mic drop.
And I absolutely love everything that Caitlyn Clark stands for
and what she has done for the women's game. She
has taken it to new heights, and on top of that,
she has hoosier blood in her now because she's a
fever player. Having said all that, you're right, she's not
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one to twelve best And on top of that, I
think they did her a disservice by like naming her
early on like she was part of the top fifteen
or twenty. That was a disservice to her because it
got her fan based all round up she automatically should
make the team, and looking at this roster, it's arguably
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one of the greatest ones they've had by the way
people they've won, having gold medals in a row. So
for everyone saying, oh, they need her, not really they
need her, And in terms of growing the women's game,
it will continue to grow. She's just not the top
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one of the top twelve players. And it's such a
disservice for her because she's in a lose lose situation.
Whenever she can't come out and says, because if she's
like I should have been on it, it needs to
look bitter, and she's like, you know what, hopefully in
four years I'll be on the Oh you're being soft,
you should be more. It's ridiculous. Give this young woman
(32:40):
a break. Please, please give her a break.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I wonder about you know, her frame. You were very
slight when you played, and that you know, welcome to
you played in a very very physical time in the NBA.
I don't know what she can do to get stronger.
Like I said, just simply going into the weight room
is that? How much will that help her going into
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year two?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
That will help tremendously. I wasn't huge in the right room.
I did a lot of natural weight like pull ups
and push ups and sit ups to get my body strong.
Her best defense will be the school of hard knocks.
All the times that you've seen her getting stripped and
knocked down, every time she's driven to the hole and
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been taken out the air, That's how her mind and
body will get strong. Yes, the weight room will help,
but the school of hard knocks is always the best
lesson of me getting my head knocked off by Lambier
and Mahrn and all those dudes. You learn, you learn
to adjust, you learn to get stronger on your own.
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Pull ups, push ups, sit ups, get your body naturally strong.
She trusts me. She would look at her numbers as
a rookie. She's averaging like almost seventeen what five and
a half dimes a couple still, I mean, she's having
a very good, solid rookie year. Just people, please, like,
stop it with the whole Olympic thing, and I'm gonna
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boycott the women really, like, who would you take off
that team?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Read the people who are upset about Caitlyn Clark not
on the Olympic team, we're not going to watch the
women's team to begin with. Now you put Caitlyn on there,
now they want to watch it, So they're not even
it's not a true fan. I mean, they're kind of
faux fans. Would I like to see her? Yeah, but
I wanted to earn it and then and those players
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will accept her when she's earned it, and they'll know
when she's earned it, and maybe that's in four years
in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hopefully it is. She's great for the sport, She's grown
the game.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
The reason why people are to watch in the WNBA
is because of her these audiences, whether it's TV, whether
it's in person. She's bringing people to the game that's
growing the game. Sitting on the bench at the Olympics
is not growing the game, and that's unfortunate. But I
don't think though she's earned that over these other players.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Just don't. Mike dropped there. Thank you, ch Uh. It's
a sharp bee drop. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Reg I appreciate your thegoor and always your knowledge. My dad.
I love y'all. Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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take a break, last call for phone calls, what we learn,
what's in store tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
What a day, What a day? On a day.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Passing of Jerry West. And I said this before I
even said it to Jerry, that when I saw Jerry,
I saw my dad. So it's like my dad died again.
That's how it hit me today. My dad died at
fifty four. Jerry was eighty six. But my dad told
me at a young age, he goes, that's how you
want to play basketball. And I wasn't a Laker fan,
(36:15):
but I was a Jerry West fan, and you know
it's it's like my dad pointed out players. He said,
Hank Aaron, that's how you played baseball. Like he loved
Hank Aaron. Just because Hank Aaron just played baseball.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Wasn't dramatic. He just was awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And then you know, he pointed out Jerry West. He
played offense and defense.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You know, he was tough.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like he just was pointing out players when I was
growing up to understand. If I didn't understand, I was
going to see these these players through his eyes. So
when Hank Aaron died, you know, it's like part of
my dad died again, and certainly with Jerry because when
I would see Jerry, I saw my dad and it
was you know, it hit me hard today, but you know,
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my thanks to the back room guys. Mario did a
great job and locating some clips from Jerry the dan Nets.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Bob Schmidt, who does a lot of work for the show,
was wonderful when sending suggestions on things that we could
bring to the audience. Bob does all the opens on
the radio show. Now, let me get a couple of
phone calls in here, John and Mississippi. Hi John, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Morna and John?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah. I had a pleasure of being the assistant appropriate he
Marian's at Bellair Country Club in the early ages for
five years and got to know Jerry very well. He
was one hell of player and great athlete and uber competitive,
and because I was a pretty good player at the time,
I often got paired against him in matches. He he
(37:51):
was argument with the best player at the club. He
was a plus three handicap, but he never played the
tournament golf because he hated playing slow, and we became
good ends. He had taken a lesson from that was
working with Jimmy Ballard, who was a pro outside of
Birmingham over here, and I knew Jimmy well and knew
his so I was kind of Jerry's eyes on his
swinging there for three or four or five years, And
(38:14):
I can remember one day playing and it was fun
to play with him because he was really good player
or whatever else. But they played fast and if my
team happened to beat Jerry, I actually got paid well
because I never had any getting in the game. But
it was a really fun graap. When I asked him
one day about his gambling and he laughed and he
looked at me and he said, card, this is gambling.
None of these guys can beat me.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
He was competitive no matter what he was doing, whether
it was playing Jim Rummy at bel Air, playing golf,
playing basketball, or competing as an executive.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
James in Virginia, Hi.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
James, Oh, thank you for taking my call DP. Dan
Happy Somber Wednesday. So, mister West, I wasn't going to
call in today, DP, but then I could feel your
emotions coming through the radio, and all I could think
about was my parents always telling me show up and
(39:09):
be present, And today, Sir, I wanted to show up
and be presnant for you and share my condolences for
someone that was so impactful in your life. Because, Sir,
even though we have never met in person, you are
certainly impactful in my life. So rest in peace to
mister Jerry West. May he continue to shoot threes on
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the big court in the sky. I loved your brother
on the day and net thank you. I'm a wonderful
day gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Thank you, James.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Jerry wouldn't shoot three, so they didn't have the three
point line back then. He was mid range jumper all
the way. Kenny and West Virginia. Hey Kenny, what's on
you mind today?
Speaker 11 (39:47):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
You know, West Virginia has no professional sports team. So
it was a five year old I didn't know what
my dad was doing watching the NBA Finals with the Lakers,
and then he started explaining to me about Jerry West,
about East Bank High School, about WVU, and for fifty
five years, Jerry West was my idol. Had a chance
to meet him a few years ago and several times actually,
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because he would come back to West Virginia for different things.
And after we talked, I'd printed up a cheap copy
of the NBA logo for me and my nephew, and
he was so gracious and kind to sign it and
spent time with him at the opening of his steakhouse,
the Greenbrier Resort. You know, West Virginia does not have
a lot in common with Los Angeles. I don't think
that's a big secret. But Mary lou Retten, we've had
(40:35):
Randy Moss, We've had Jason Winns with us in great
athletes come out of West Virginia, but nobody is Jerry West.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And yep up, sorry about that. Kenny Pauli dista in
sports history, Yeah, just a couple.
Speaker 12 (40:50):
Baseball was invented eighteen thirty nine Abner Doubleday and the
Baseball Hall of Fame was dedicated nineteen thirty nine in Cooperstown.
And the Bulls won their first NBA championship in ninety
one and interleague play started in baseball nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Scottie Pippen scored thirty two points and thirteen rebounds in
that Bulls win over the Lakers Game five. That was
the first of three straight NBA titles. Todd, what did
you learn today? If you had a swallow and infected toe,
wouldn't you still go out there and compete in a
major golf event.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
I'm not saying, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Just saying, seet no O'Connor. We're harsh on the infected
toe today. Yeah, we were. Marvin Freezy things, John Rams,
soft Paul.
Speaker 12 (41:28):
Time for the NBA to admit who the logo is?
Speaker 6 (41:31):
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Speaker 3 (41:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the final hour on this Wednesday. Basketball coming up tonight,
It'll be Game three in Dallas, Mavericks favored by two
and a half. Reggie Miller will join us. Coming up
in a little bit. La Times columnist Bill Plashki will
stop by. We were going to have Bill on to
talk about his column where he tears into the Lakers'
front office and the embarrassment of what happened with the
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recruitment of Dan Hurley. And then we got word a
little while ago that Jerry West had passed away at
the age of eighty six, and Bill needed a little
time to kind of collect his thoughts on this, and
we certainly respect him, and you know the process of
trying to put it together what Jerry West meant to
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the Los Angeles community, the Lakers, you know, his impact.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
On the NBA.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, it's a long, long, legendary career, unmatched, unparalleled.
And if you have been listening to the show kind
of throughout the rundown here what we were going we
were gonna have ice Cube on. We had other things
to talk about, but you know, Jerry deserves my reflection
our memories. We brought back when we had Jerry on
(01:15):
after Kobe had passed away. We're going to bring back
when I had a conversation with him about being the
logo and recognizing that he was the logo and he
didn't want any credit. I mean, it was it was
typical Jerry didn't want credit. One of the most competitive
people I've ever met, and passing away at the age
of eighty six. So we'll hopefully have Bill Plashk he'll
(01:38):
join us coming up here in a little bit. The
phone lines are all full. Everybody has thoughts about Jerry West.
I'd say, you know, called in, but we're backed up here.
We'll try to get to those phone calls as well.
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to go to Paris. The US Olympic Team trials Making
Team USA June fifteenth through the thirtieth on NBC in Peacock,
which is where you can see this program. Chrisps Porzingis'
is iffy with a rare leg injury for tonight's game.
John ram Is out of the US Open. The team
(02:20):
USA officially announced their women's basketball team. Now, I was
trying to find out if there is an alternative list
so players who might be put on the team, and
I was told yesterday there is no list. But I
think that people have this impression that, you know, here's
(02:40):
here's the top twelve and then thirteen is Caitlin Clark
and fourteen is whoever.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They've had discussions about if they have to replace players,
they will have, you know, these players available, and that's
due to injury. There might be two roster spawns available.
Maybe Caitlin Clark gets one of those roster spots. Jerry
West was on the program many many times over the years.
(03:07):
We take you back to May twentieth of twenty fifteen,
and here is the question I asked Jerry West. We
see the NBA ball, and we see the logo, and
we've seen the picture that is you in that you
are the logo, right.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You know, I really don't like to talk about that
because I think it's very uncomfortable for the NBA. But
there's a very interesting story in the New York Times
that the man who designed the logo. He said, yes,
that's Jerry West, but An it has to be an honor.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, okay, what do you think when you look at
the ball and that's you. You're playing against the Trailblazers.
I think you're driving on the left side against the Trailblazers, right.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm not even sure, Dan, did you make the shot?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Jerry?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know, but you know I shot, But you're
the low I thought that that's one. That's one of
the great nicknames of all time. Now you were mister
clutch Zeke from Cabin Creek. But the logo, it doesn't
get any better than that.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's flattering, it's really flattering. But honestly, Dan, I don't
really I don't think like that. That's just not me.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I'm so happy that I was able to live my
dreams as a kid and to be able to do
something that I absolutely loved. I loved the competition. I
like I told you, I like how I felt the
day of the game, and I've lived my dream. Most
people don't get a chance to do it. I'm sure
you're living your dream today, but I'm living a dream.
(04:42):
My dad would be in tears watching this. Well, because
you were you were his is one of his idols.
Well thank you, and I can't help but sit here
think he would watch this now and then know I'd
made it well. As I say, you know, I'm extremely
proud of being an athlete. Sometimes it's a little I
(05:05):
killd of like to fly under the radar. I have
never tried to place any importance for myself as as
a person or as an athlete. I don't I'd like
to think I'm normal, and sometimes people don't want you
to be normal. And last night at the game up
in Oakland, I was there and I was walked down
after the game, and you know, our fans are incredible
(05:27):
up there. The best fans I have ever seen in
my life. I don't care where you go in the league,
these are the best fans. And they're so loud, they're
so vocal, and they haven't had a winning situation up
there for a while. But I was going out after
the game, I was with my wife and I said
to myself, they were these people in the hallways, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
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I was so embarrassed. I was really embarrassed because again,
that's not what makes me work. But you know, It's
thrilling that people recognize he's maybe your contribution to to basketball.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I told you tough to get him to take credit
for that, but you know, he got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He was very humble with that.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It is him. He is the logo. And that's as
good a nickname as anybody has. You're the logo of
a sport. Uh. Bill Plashk woke up to the news
that Jerry had passed away.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I appreciate you joining us. I know we're going to
talk about the Lakers, but Bill Plansky of the La
Times joining us.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Thoughts running through your head.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Now just very so sad. Dan, we lost LA's lost
his basketball consciences, basketball cornerstone. And he was he was
the logo. He was a legend. He was his presence
when he when he when he go to a game,
he's still you know, he stood tall with the shock
of white hair and the furrowed expression. Every everybody was
(06:55):
drawn to him. He was such a bangutter presence. And
you know what, for me, what gets right now is
I think it's very sad. His death was announced by
the Clippers, and I love the Clippers, I love Steve Wamer,
I love the organization. But Jerry was a Laker, and
I think we need to say that. Maybe you said
on the show, but he was a Laker. He was
(07:15):
the first draft pick of the LA Lakers when he
came to LA in nineteen sixty. He built the Lakers
as a player, He's built the Lakers as a coach.
As a JM best executive in sports history, by the way,
the best sports executive in the history of sports. He
built and cultivated Showtime and Shaq and Kobe. That was
(07:35):
all him. And the fact that he had a falling
out of the Lakers over money and over all kinds
of different things, that's really sad because he's a Laker
and he'll be will remember it. He was great for
the Clippers, and again I love the Clippers, other against
the Clippers, but I just wish. I think Jerry probably
would wish at the very end of people would remember
him as a Laker.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, why was there that falling out?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I know he wanted to come back, can maybe end
his career, book end his career with the Lakers, and
it just never happened.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, I think there's a fine over initially was over
money over power. For Phil Jackson, came in, and Phil
Jackson had a lot of power and Jerry didn't have
as much power when Philled became more in control. And
in later years it just got kind of it just
got kind of snippy. I mean when Genie Buss listed
her at five best Lakers, remember that a two couple
of years ago, five best Lakers of all time. She
(08:26):
tweeted it out or something, and he wasn't. He wasn't
one of them. He was arguably the greatest Laker of all.
That's my point. He's everybody says his magic in Kobe,
but Shack was around for both. I mean, Jerry West
was around for both of them. Jerry West, you know,
don't forget he he traded for Kobe, he signed Shack,
he cultivated magic in showtime. He's to my mind, he's
(08:46):
the greatest Laker ever and the greatest executive sports there.
And it's just really such a day of mourning at
the such a day of loss, such a great, great loss.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And this on the heels of the Lakers whipping again
on head coach with Dan Hurley, I know you gave
them both barrels. Uh recap what you uh, what you
wrote about the Lakers Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It's said. It seems so trivial talking about today way
Jerry West's death, But yes, it was. I just thought
it was embarrassing. I thought the college coach flies out
to LA to see the Lakers. He's offered twice the
money he's making it so for a chance to be
the coach of the most celebrated franchise in professional sports.
He looks around, spends the day looking around, and he
(09:28):
says nah and goes home. What does that say about
the Lakers? How far are they following the fact that
they couldn't get I know Dan, Dan Hurley is a
great family guy in the grade. He's coast guy and
wanted to stay home. But this is this is a
lot of the Lakers, the Lakers. This is the same
team that top Phil Jackson out of retirement twice, the
same team that that that got shot, that got Lebron,
(09:50):
got a d. They get what they want. There were
great franchise, They were great franchise. It's just humiliating the
fact that they couldn't close this deal on Dan Hurley
just it's humiliating for the franchise. It's a huge step back,
a huge blow to Rock Palaka. So I mean Dan,
Dan yustn't seen what he what he saw. He was
not liked, didn't want to coach Lebron, probably didn't want
(10:12):
to deal with all their front office machinations, didn't want
to do as a team that maybe he's not gonna
make the playoffs for several years. It's just a damning.
It's just a it's just damning the Lakers. There's no
way around it.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, the perception hit is you know, because it's the Lakers.
You don't turn down the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
I mean especially you know, he's won two championships. He
has nothing else to prove in Connecticut and your doubleness,
the double his salary for the most highly celebrated franchise.
I know there were time with the subjects for seventeen championships,
but the most celebrated champions franchise in sports history, the
most covered, the most disagree. It's Hollywood. Nobody turned nobody,
(10:51):
nobody from the stores Connecticut comes and turns down Hollywood. Nless.
Hollywood's really messing up. Hollywood really messed up this time.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, once she came back, built without a remon in principle, I.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Said it was over real.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was done that, he wasn't going back. Okay, So
what's next for the Lakers situation?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
In your opinion?
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And I hope it's not JJ Redick and I've written
about that. He's he's not He's not a coach, he's
never coached before. I'm worried they're gonna go back to
JJ with JJ Redick. If not, I know they got this.
James Brego is on the the list. Why not Sam Cassell?
Why not? In my opinion, why not go up there?
Go get Becky Hammond. I'm serious, Why not to go
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completely outside the box?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Because there wherever's gonna coach her?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Is gonna coaching for two years to get fired? Probably anyway.
I mean, it's so it's so bad, it's so since
since since such disarray. Hell, why not draft Bronnie mc
brownie the player coach? I don't know, It's just gets
crazy out here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
How did you get this? How did you get this bad?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
They gave it because they gave the franchise to Lebron,
and Lebron up running into the ground. I mean, he's
been great on the court, but behind the scenes, he's
gone through coaches, he's gone through players, He told them
to get take Russell Westbrook. That didn't work out. They
kind of sold her soul to Lebron and they're sold.
Probably has to remain sold till Lebron leaves. And Lebron's
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not leaving anytime soon. He's coming back. He's in a
retire Laker. Only when he leaves will the money be
released and the freedom they have and the control they have,
then they can become the become the great Lakers again.
In fact, I'm thinking Dan Hurley probably got that. They
probably even gave him that control. They gave a six
year deal. Why wouldn't you come knowing you were you
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weren't to get fired. You got six years, seventy million dollars,
life changing money for the Lakers. And he says, no,
that's just, that's just I'm still stunned by that, by that,
by that move. I'm still sad that the Lakers have
fallen so far and I don't know where they go.
I would draft, I would hire Sam Facel. He's the
three NBA Championships coach since to coaches of the Celtics,
(12:55):
well known out here, really good. He got a really
good coach. I'd hire him. But I'm sure. I'm sure
they'll go somewhere else that I've never heard somebody I've
never heard of who knows it's crazy, and it's it's crazy.
It's the Lakers. They should have their pick. But again,
once you give your soul to love to somebody else,
it's not yours. You gotta wait to get it back.
(13:17):
And again, this is the this is Lebron James's team
right now, it's this franchise, his organization. So probably Lebron
is gonna pick the coach, probably, and they're gonna draft.
We're gonna draft his son, Dann And they shouldn't draft
his son. They're gonna take him at fifty five. And
they shouldn't go anywhere near to that child, because he said,
there's so much pressure, it's gonna be so so ugly
out here, so much drama. If he comes to this
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team in the locker room and his dad let him
go somewhere else and become himself. Don't do that to him,
Don't do that to their family, don't do that to
their organization. Don't draft Ronnie. But I'm afraid they're gonna
do that because Lebron wants it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's a mess, I know, you got a busy morning.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts here, certainly on on
Jerry West, and thanks again for joining us. Thanks man,
that's Bill Plishkin. Yeah, I would love to see Bronni
go to the San Antonio Spurs. Get him in a
smaller market, let him develop with Victor Wembenyama less media there.
Maybe you get an opportunity. Pop can coach you there.
(14:16):
Maybe you get a starting point guard. Maybe you can
learn that way. But you're stepping right into this spotlight
and there's no other spotlight like this one. All right,
let me take a break. I do have some phone calls.
I'll try to get those. Reggie millerwal Jonas coming up
next here on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (15:49):
We're gonna reschedule ice Cube. We were going to do
an interview with him the UH three on three league
that he has they debut this season this Saturday, and
and we'll talk to Cube more phone calls as well.
We bring in the Hall of Famer Reggie Miller Turner
Sports NBA and it's tough day here, reg as try
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to trudge through this with the passing of Jerry West.
And of course I know you had many encounters conversations.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
If you'd like to share.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, I think I will start from the beginning and
kind of go through the many times I've had the
honor of just being in his presence. And it started
out an early age for me when I was at
UCLA getting phone calls from Jerry West. Now again I'm,
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you know, nineteen twenty years old, and remember those you know,
UCLA Pro basketball pickup games that we would have at UCLA.
He would always be around because at that time he
was somewhat the architect of those Laker teams, those showtime
Laker teams. And just getting phone call from him watching
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my game saying, well, you should think about doing this.
I would have done that work on this. I mean,
this is nineteen twenty year old Reggie. And then once
I made it to the league. N Tellum, who was
my agent, attorney at the time good friends with Jerry West.
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We would have not only conversations but meetups. I had
a chance to interview him a few times when I
had my own little local local show in Indiana and
just to talk basketball because he had such a brilliant,
brilliant basketball mind. He was always two or three steps ahead.
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So being a shooting guard and growing up in Los Angeles,
growing up in California Riverside, but watching the Lakers and
knowing the history of Jerry West was like a kid
in a Cannish store. I hung on every word he
said to me and have a chance to interview him
and to get tips from him. I was like I
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was a kid in a Cannis star. You couldn't tell
me anything. And our real last encounter because working with Turner,
every time we would come to the Laker games or
the Clipper games when he was working with the Clippers
at the time, we got a chance to pick his brain.
As soon as I walked into the staples he was there.
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He would give me a scoutering report, not only on
his own team, because he never held anything back. He
never held anything back, even on his own team. He
would give me scattering reports on the Lakers, the Clippers
and who they were playing. That's how advanced he was.
And you know, we have a term here in California.
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Right now, we're in June glue. I know you can't
see outside, but it's very misty, cloudy, ugly, and it's
one of those days where when something like this happens,
you know it's June gloom. When you think about the loss.
Just think about this. Two years ago, it was Bill Russell,
less than a month ago, Bill Walton. This is another
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huge gut blow and it's a little bit more personal
for me because I've you know, I've had a relationship
with Jerry West and when Kobe passed. I don't know
if you guys remember that show we were supposed to
air a Laker game, and remember we did that special
at Staples on the day. It was Charles Shaq, Ernie, myself,
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Dwayne Wade, and Jerry West. And I think this was
the most raw I've ever seen mister West in terms
of talking about Kobe and their relationships, because they were
very close as well. We were like in the and
before we were just all bawling listening to mister West
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described Kobe so I'm sorry to be long winded, but
I want to give mister West the proper, the proper
due he's earned and deserved. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I said earlier that it's not overstating this when he's
probably the most impactful person in the history of the NBA.
When you look at the player, coach, GM the logo
and you know you've been doing it. You know he
had been doing it at a very high level for
you know, seven decades, and that says an awful lot
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about you know, what he does, how he does it,
how he did it, and passing away at the age
of eighty six. There's no smooth way to make a segue,
but I'll segue into the Lakers missing out on Dan Hurley.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Why did that happen?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Number One? I don't think Dan was ready to leave Yukon.
And as much as they want to say, oh my god,
how is he going to turn down six year, seventy
million coming to California the state taxes, so really we're
talking about five or six million of that seventy million.
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So I don't think he was ready. I think he's
back to back champs at Yukon. It was a great
ploy by the Lakers. It was a great.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Try, but I think it was a great ploy by
Dan Hurley. I think this was a leverage play on
his part, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And I'm sure from what I've been hearing, Yukon redid
his deal too, So I mean that's great for him.
But it kind of looks like the Lakers have a
little bit of egg on their face. You know, here's
the Lakers seventeen NBA championships. You got Lebron, James Anthony Davis,
and you can't get this college coach, So a little
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bit of egg on their face. But again, I still
believe it's a desirable job, a very difficult job now,
but still the Lakers that you would you would be coaching.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
But why is it difficult?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Because everything you do, every decision you make, every trade
non trade, people want to know who's really running the Lakers.
Is it Genie? Is a Lebron? Is it Rob Polanka?
I mean there's a lot of things being thrown in
this gumbole pot of being the Lakers. So there's a
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lot of drama that comes with it, but man, it
is it's still a beautiful star. Sometimes you just got
to shine it up a little bit to make it
appeasing for someone to come coach.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Then okay, you can pick between the Lakers jump and
the Cavaliers opening.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I mean, if you're the Lakers, you're going to be
on national TV fifteen plus times it's the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, but you pause?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Are you telling.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But he's going to be He's there for the next
at least two years. You're probably taking his son. The
West is loaded. What's a better job because both are
open right now.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
You have an easier shot to get to a conference
finals and maybe an NBA finals if you take a
Cleveland job. If Donovan Mitchell resigns as well, Okay, we're
assuming Mitchell's there. They have the two bigs, Darius Darland,
who I heard there's some friction going on between him
and him and Donovan, so I don't know about that.
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But there's a more desirable opportunity if you're Cleveland. It's
a tough road if you're the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So what's that say about the Lakers job that you
look at Cleveland and say that maybe more advantageous than
going through being under the microscope with everything.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Look, you've got one newspaper, the Planes Dealer. I believe
it's called in Cleveland, and you've got a few Internet salutes,
big deal for the Lakers. You just had Bill blackfell right,
you gotta your Bill every single day talk about what
the Lakers should be doing. And you've got the whole
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Laker nation, which is worldwide after your throat after every
single game. So that's why Cleveland would be better suited.
And it depends on which coach is coming in. Is
it a coach with experienced that has heavy shoulders that
can handle the criticism, or is it a new beat
J Redick, for instance. If it's a JJ Reddick, that's
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a very difficult job as your first job to take
on the Lakers. If it's James Virego, who's been around
the league as an assistant, who's been a head coach,
he's been an associate head coach, I mean he kind
of knows the trials and tribulations of what's to come. See.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I think I think little things would bother JJ Reddick.
And I don't know Barrego. I know that he's been around,
he had a little stint as a head coach before,
but JJ watching him when he's on the mother Ship,
it feels like things bother him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Don't take the Laker job.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
If things bother you, I mean they that that'll they'll
eat you up.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
They'll eat you up.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
They will. But look, if your bff and close friend
is Leron James, and you have an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not even going to get credit if you win, Lebron
is gonna get credit.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Frank Vogel still gets credit for that bubble Bubble Champions did.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So not enough to keep him around Red that is true.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I mean, look at Dvini.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
They were just Western.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Ago.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I know, I know, we're talking to the Hall of
Famer back in Milwaukee, Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer
joining us. All right, I keep waiting for Kyrie, the
most talented player to ever play the game. It's time
to be talented coming up tonight. If you're not talented tonight,
you're not going to be around much longer. So what
adjustments can Dallas make to get back in this series?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Number One, they got to push the pace, they got
to run more. And it's you know, I was talking
to a few people. Indiana has played Boston probably the
best this postseason, and the reason why it is it
was all about pace. They pushed the pace and they
kept forcing it down Boston's throat. The problem with Indiana
is they didn't have any closers because Halliburton went down,
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and they were using guys that usually weren't in that role.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
TJ.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
McConnell, nim Hard. They had great games, but they they're
not closers.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
They're not used to that, so.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
That's why they lost them for But the pace, that
was one thing that was consistent three at the four games,
and that's why they were in three of the four games.
Right now, the pace is too slow and if if
Boston has a chance with Holiday White, we don't know
the availability of Porzingis, but Al Horford and Brown and Tatum,
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you get them in the half court setting and they
get a chance to adjust defensively and get those wingspans out,
you're not going to be able to score enough. The
pace has to be faster. Kyrie has to make quicker
decisions and you are one correct. Tonight's the game they've
got to win for their conferdence number one. But to
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make it a serious they win tonight, the series really
can shift. People don't understand. People think this is going
to be a gentleman's sweep. If Dallas wins tonight, things change. Well,
it depends on how they win, by the way, but
if they win tonight, the series does change mentally because
getting that first win, especially finals win, it turns the
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key for you and Kyrie. I hate to say it,
he's got to be a catalyst. Both have to be
playing well for Darren Jones, PJ. Washington, Gafford Lively for
all them to eat. If both of those guys, Luca
and Kyrie are not playing at a high level like
they did in the West during the West run, those
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other guys can't eat one or the other. It won't
work in the finals versus Boss.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Also with Chris Thoms perzingis you know, on the outside
looking in which somebody says, well, why don't you get
it shot up?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Why don't you?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I mean you played, you played a you know, two
decades in the NBA, Like, how many times would you
get something shot up so you could play in a
big game?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
How often does that happen anymore?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I never got shot up, even in the Conference finals
versus Chicago when I twisted my ankle and everyone's saying
you should get shot up because you don't know the ramifications.
Once that medicine wears off and the damage that will
have been done. Having said all that, this is the
NBA Finals, and lord knows if you'll ever be there again.
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You assume Boston will because they're a young team.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Would you ruther risk if you're poor zingis?
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Probably not, because you're up to zero. Anyways, Now, if
you're telling me I have a chance, Let's say Dallas
comes back and ties it to two and you don't
play these next two games, Well, you have an opportunity
to come back in game five, six, and seven if
you take these next because now I remember, there's two days.
They don't play again till Friday, and they don't play
(29:35):
again until Monday, so you would have some time to
rest a little bit between games three and four and
possibly come back for Game five. I wouldn't get shot up.
I never would advise anyone to get shot because you
don't know about the ramifications afterwards. But always in the
back of my mind people say, and I will do
whatever it takes to win. You're in the NBA Finals.
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Don't do it. But I'm sure it's crossed. It will
have crossed his mind to get a shot.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Speaking of shots, everybody's got an opinion on Caitlyn Clark
not making the Olympic team.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
You got one, well, who are you going to take off?
Before I say this, who would you take off that
team and put her on? And then then we can
have the debate from there.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I wouldn't put her on. That was my argument is
who am I taking off? I don't think she's one
of the twelve best players right now. And these players
are veterans. You know, Sabrina iron Escue had to earn
her way onto this had to wait a couple of years. Yeah,
you know, you got twenty seven year olds, twenty eight
(30:40):
year olds, you got Tarassi, Who's what forty or forty one?
I get it, She's not I think she could use
a break. I don't think she's one of the twelve
best players. And people say, well, you've got a chance to.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Grow the game.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
How are you going to grow the game If she's
on the bench, she's not going to play, like she
can't make the roster. Now you're going to put on
Now she's one of the top two players on the team,
she would be sitting. She would be like Christian Latner
was on the Dream Team, not playing very much. Maybe
you tune in to watch warm ups.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Dador mic drop. Everything you just said is a mic drop.
And I absolutely love everything that Caitlyn Clark stands for
and what she has done for the women's game. She
has taken it to new heights, and on top of that,
she has hoosier blood in her now because she's a
fever player. Having said all that, you're right, she's not
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one to twelve best And on top of that, I
think they did her a disservice by like naming her
early on like she was part of the top fifteen
or twenty. That was a disservice to her because it
got her fan based all round up she automatically should
make the team, and looking at this roster, it's arguably
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one of the greatest ones they've had by the way
people they've won, having gold medals in a row. So
for everyone saying, oh, they need her, not really they
need her, And in terms of growing the women's game,
it will continue to grow. She's just not the top
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one of the top twelve players. And it's such a
disservice for her because she's in a lose lose situation.
Whenever she can't come out and says, because if she's
like I should have been on it, it needs to
look bitter, and she's like, you know what, hopefully in
four years I'll be on the Oh you're being soft,
you should be more. It's ridiculous. Give this young woman
(32:40):
a break. Please, please give her a break.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I wonder about you know, her frame. You were very
slight when you played, and that you know, welcome to
you played in a very very physical time in the NBA.
I don't know what she can do to get stronger.
Like I said, just simply going into the weight room
is that? How much will that help her going into
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year two?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
That will help tremendously. I wasn't huge in the right room.
I did a lot of natural weight like pull ups
and push ups and sit ups to get my body strong.
Her best defense will be the school of hard knocks.
All the times that you've seen her getting stripped and
knocked down, every time she's driven to the hole and
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been taken out the air, That's how her mind and
body will get strong. Yes, the weight room will help,
but the school of hard knocks is always the best
lesson of me getting my head knocked off by Lambier
and Mahrn and all those dudes. You learn, you learn
to adjust, you learn to get stronger on your own.
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Pull ups, push ups, sit ups, get your body naturally strong.
She trusts me. She would look at her numbers as
a rookie. She's averaging like almost seventeen what five and
a half dimes a couple still, I mean, she's having
a very good, solid rookie year. Just people, please, like,
stop it with the whole Olympic thing, and I'm gonna
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boycott the women really, like, who would you take off
that team?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Read the people who are upset about Caitlyn Clark not
on the Olympic team, we're not going to watch the
women's team to begin with. Now you put Caitlyn on there,
now they want to watch it, So they're not even
it's not a true fan. I mean, they're kind of
faux fans. Would I like to see her? Yeah, but
I wanted to earn it and then and those players
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will accept her when she's earned it, and they'll know
when she's earned it, and maybe that's in four years
in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hopefully it is. She's great for the sport, She's grown
the game.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
The reason why people are to watch in the WNBA
is because of her these audiences, whether it's TV, whether
it's in person. She's bringing people to the game that's
growing the game. Sitting on the bench at the Olympics
is not growing the game, and that's unfortunate. But I
don't think though she's earned that over these other players.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Just don't. Mike dropped there. Thank you, ch Uh. It's
a sharp bee drop. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Reg I appreciate your thegoor and always your knowledge. My dad.
I love y'all. Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
What a day, What a day? On a day.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Passing of Jerry West. And I said this before I
even said it to Jerry, that when I saw Jerry,
I saw my dad. So it's like my dad died again.
That's how it hit me today. My dad died at
fifty four. Jerry was eighty six. But my dad told
me at a young age, he goes, that's how you
want to play basketball. And I wasn't a Laker fan,
(36:15):
but I was a Jerry West fan, and you know
it's it's like my dad pointed out players. He said,
Hank Aaron, that's how you played baseball. Like he loved
Hank Aaron. Just because Hank Aaron just played baseball.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Wasn't dramatic. He just was awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And then you know, he pointed out Jerry West. He
played offense and defense.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You know, he was tough.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like he just was pointing out players when I was
growing up to understand. If I didn't understand, I was
going to see these these players through his eyes. So
when Hank Aaron died, you know, it's like part of
my dad died again, and certainly with Jerry because when
I would see Jerry, I saw my dad and it
was you know, it hit me hard today, but you know,
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my thanks to the back room guys. Mario did a
great job and locating some clips from Jerry the dan Nets.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Bob Schmidt, who does a lot of work for the show,
was wonderful when sending suggestions on things that we could
bring to the audience. Bob does all the opens on
the radio show. Now, let me get a couple of
phone calls in here, John and Mississippi. Hi John, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Morna and John?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah. I had a pleasure of being the assistant appropriate he
Marian's at Bellair Country Club in the early ages for
five years and got to know Jerry very well. He
was one hell of player and great athlete and uber competitive,
and because I was a pretty good player at the time,
I often got paired against him in matches. He he
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was argument with the best player at the club. He
was a plus three handicap, but he never played the
tournament golf because he hated playing slow, and we became
good ends. He had taken a lesson from that was
working with Jimmy Ballard, who was a pro outside of
Birmingham over here, and I knew Jimmy well and knew
his so I was kind of Jerry's eyes on his
swinging there for three or four or five years, And
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I can remember one day playing and it was fun
to play with him because he was really good player
or whatever else. But they played fast and if my
team happened to beat Jerry, I actually got paid well
because I never had any getting in the game. But
it was a really fun graap. When I asked him
one day about his gambling and he laughed and he
looked at me and he said, card, this is gambling.
None of these guys can beat me.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
He was competitive no matter what he was doing, whether
it was playing Jim Rummy at bel Air, playing golf,
playing basketball, or competing as an executive.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
James in Virginia, Hi.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
James, Oh, thank you for taking my call DP. Dan
Happy Somber Wednesday. So, mister West, I wasn't going to
call in today, DP, but then I could feel your
emotions coming through the radio, and all I could think
about was my parents always telling me show up and
(39:09):
be present, And today, Sir, I wanted to show up
and be presnant for you and share my condolences for
someone that was so impactful in your life. Because, Sir,
even though we have never met in person, you are
certainly impactful in my life. So rest in peace to
mister Jerry West. May he continue to shoot threes on
(39:30):
the big court in the sky. I loved your brother
on the day and net thank you. I'm a wonderful
day gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Thank you, James.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Jerry wouldn't shoot three, so they didn't have the three
point line back then. He was mid range jumper all
the way. Kenny and West Virginia. Hey Kenny, what's on
you mind today?
Speaker 11 (39:47):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
You know, West Virginia has no professional sports team. So
it was a five year old I didn't know what
my dad was doing watching the NBA Finals with the Lakers,
and then he started explaining to me about Jerry West,
about East Bank High School, about WVU, and for fifty
five years, Jerry West was my idol. Had a chance
to meet him a few years ago and several times actually,
(40:12):
because he would come back to West Virginia for different things.
And after we talked, I'd printed up a cheap copy
of the NBA logo for me and my nephew, and
he was so gracious and kind to sign it and
spent time with him at the opening of his steakhouse,
the Greenbrier Resort. You know, West Virginia does not have
a lot in common with Los Angeles. I don't think
that's a big secret. But Mary lou Retten, we've had
(40:35):
Randy Moss, We've had Jason Winns with us in great
athletes come out of West Virginia, but nobody is Jerry West.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And yep up, sorry about that. Kenny Pauli dista in
sports history, Yeah, just a couple.
Speaker 12 (40:50):
Baseball was invented eighteen thirty nine Abner Doubleday and the
Baseball Hall of Fame was dedicated nineteen thirty nine in Cooperstown.
And the Bulls won their first NBA championship in ninety
one and interleague play started in baseball nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Scottie Pippen scored thirty two points and thirteen rebounds in
that Bulls win over the Lakers Game five. That was
the first of three straight NBA titles. Todd, what did
you learn today? If you had a swallow and infected toe,
wouldn't you still go out there and compete in a
major golf event.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
I'm not saying, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Just saying, seet no O'Connor. We're harsh on the infected
toe today. Yeah, we were. Marvin Freezy things, John Rams,
soft Paul.
Speaker 12 (41:28):
Time for the NBA to admit who the logo is?
Speaker 6 (41:31):
What we learned?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
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