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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the final hour on this Tuesday Dan and The
Dan EDG. Dan Patrick Show. The Minister of Humor, Fritzie
Dylan's in for Seaton for one more day. Marvin Paully,
yours truly, Lewis Riddick from the mother Ship. He'll join
us coming up and we'll try to make sense of
what's happened over the last forty eight hours. And finally,
the quarterbacking news we have been waiting to tell you about.
(00:28):
Daniel Jones is going to the Colts.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hesitator pause for dramatic effect.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm guessing he's going as a backup, but I'm gonna
guess Daniel Jones probably thinks this should be an open
competition with Anthony Richardson. This might be another chance to
be the starter in the NFL. Anthony Richardson kind of
hit or miss. He's still young, what twenty two, but
Daniel Jones bones is not exactly old. But Daniel Jones
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feels like he's been around too long, but getting an
opportunity after what happened when he got released from the Giants,
went to Minnesota, sat there. Now you're going to get
a chance to probably compete, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Early pick for comeback Player of the Year, Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You want to take him? You got him? I mean, okay,
that's your guy. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Eagles have traded their cornerback CJ. Gardner Johnson to
the Texans. They got an offensive lineman, Kenyon Green. This
according to Ian Rapaport. So this just happened here. But hm, CJ.
Gardner Johnson, he's good. So the text, I'm trying to
(01:49):
understand what the Texans are doing. They got draft picks
Laramie Tunzell went to Washington, and now you get a
defensive back and then you trade an offensive lineman. I
hope you're getting some offensive considering you gave up the
second most sacks in the NFL last year.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I hope you're.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Getting some offensive lineman in the draft. You know, you
may it may not seem like you had five offensive
linemen last year, but you have to have five offensive
linemen just for each play. You have to have five
offensive linemen, all right, eight seven to seven three DP
show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
If you're watching on Peacock, Thank you for downloading the app.
We played the Cooper Flag game last hour. Or had
to do with the acc of being Freshman of the
Year and also being the player of the year in
the ACC. And there have been three other players. All
three were at Duke. You had Zion, you had Jalil
okafor and Marvin Bagley Junior the third Wow and Cooper Fleck.
(02:58):
All right, here's the question, trivia question. And somebody asked
me this question over the weekend. The last time a
white player was taken number one overall who was born
in the United States, so not European number one pick
over all in the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Marvin, I'll start with you.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I gotta go ways back.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Bill Walton, right, Paully, I went piece by piece Kent
Benson out of Indiana, as my guess, Todd.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Dan Issel, Okay, I'm going Bill Walton tif all right,
it is Kent Benson by the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And that was the year. That was what.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Let me see, Walton would have been seventy four, Kent
Benson might have been seventy seven, correct, seventy seven because
they had that was a great team with Scott May
Quinn Buckner. The last team to go undefeated. What seventy
six Indiana Hoosiers with Bob nine that Kent Benson went
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to Milwaukee. Probably most famous for getting in a fight
with Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Benson. I don't know what happened,
what precipitated this, but it looked like Benson elbowed Kareem
and then Kareem ended up punching him. Dennis Autry, I believe,
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is another player who got into a fight with Kareem
early in Kareem's career, trying to rough him up.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, Bully.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
A couple players taken in the seventy seven draft after
Kent Benson, which is everybody, by the way, Jack Sikma,
Bernard King, New Jersey Nets, Ernie Grunfeld, and some other
good player.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So Ernie Grunfeld played with Bernard King of his Ernie
and Bernie or Bernie and Ernie at Tennessee. So he
had two New York guys who somehow made it to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Back then. You know, there are.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Moves now where I'm removed from it. Back then, I
didn't think anything of it. When I'm young, I'm like,
of course, you know, the best player in New York's
going to end up in Los Angeles. That Luel Sindor
would leave New York City and he would go out
to UCLA, And then all of a sudden you find
out that there was a sugar daddy at UCLA who
(05:34):
happened to guide some players there for coach Wooden. And
then you know Ernie Grunfeld and Bernard King, I believe both.
I know Bernard was from New York. I think Ernie
was from New York as well. But they ended up
in Tennessee. Things that make you go hm now, But
back then you're like, oh, wow, they got that guy.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yes, Marvin, And it's not even like he was North Carolina.
Do Kentucky one of those blue bloods? Yeah, not to
Tennessee basketball. But I'm not thinking if I'm a top
rated prospect from Brooklyn, I'm going to Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But South Carolina used to have this pipeline from New
York City players. Frank Maguire when he coached at South Carolina,
and this going back a long time, but he would
always get New York players to play in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know what they were offering.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Back then, Kentucky would always get some Kentucky based players,
but then they would get some players where they weren't
necessarily from Kentucky. But Kentucky was spending money whether you
were local or not. But you know, Kentucky basketball, there's
so many great prospects, or at least there used to
be that they could just keep them in a house,
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you know, like Daryl Griffith, doctor Dunkenstein. You know he
was from Louisville, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, But I think that's the case with most top programs.
Kansas is a great program, but I bet a ton
of those guys aren't from Kansas in Missouri. They're from
all over the country. Chicago to Kansas had a great pipeline. Yeah,
it would always be like, who's the best play in Chicago?
I don't know, but he's going.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
To Kansas, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Poll question for the final hour of the program, There, Dylan,
where in your is that Tampa Bay Lightning sweater?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
This is actually Tampa Bay Airport sweater. Dan, this has
just wrapping the city of Tampa.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Like the twenty dollars sweatshirts on the way back.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
There's actually two for thirty five.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I thought that that had to do with Tampa, like
Tampa Bay sports team, not just.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
A fan of the city.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It looks really good, I know.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
For an airport.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, junk, not that right. Yeah it looks nice.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
It's got like the college lettering. Yeah, it looks to
be University of Tampa.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yes it does. It looks very nice. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Poll question for the final hour of the program, Well, we.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Could switch it up a little bit, Dan with the
Garrett Cole situation. Man, I know we touched on it,
but would you sign a hard throwing starting pitcher to
an ex defensive long term deal?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No, yes, sir, no, And this isn't revisionist history, and
it is a loaded question.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I just can't not the way they pitch now and
a power pitcher, I can't it. Just I think it's stupid.
And they, you know, the Yankees are going to be
without Garrick Cole. Now they may say, hey, you know,
we've had some good years with him. Uh, you know,
he's been a cy young winner. He won two games
in the World Series. But and you're that ten year,
(08:33):
two hundred and fifty or three hundred million dollars. I
just can't do it. I don't even want to do
it with a hitter. I just too many things can
go wrong. You know, five years would be my max.
Now I might be a terrible GM and out of
a job, but I just think there are too many
ebbs and flows. There's too many flukey things that can happen,
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especially a pitcher. What's the what's the content track with
Garrett Cole.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Over the next four years? The New York Yankees old
Garrett Cole one hundred and fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, well, okay, that one's not as stupid as gian
Carlo Stanton. When they signed him, I go, boy, you
desperate because that guy can't play. I mean he can
hit a home run, but he can't do anything, can't
stay healthy, can't put him in the field. And I
think he's injured again to start spring training. How do
(09:28):
you get injured going into spring training?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
In seven seasons with the Yankees, Giancarlo gean Carlo Stanton
has made one All Star Game whilst making two hundred
million dollars. Yeah, and he has another. He's got another
one thirty on the way.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's terrible stat of whoa, whoa. That's stead of the
day stead of the day. Here comes here comes that
what stat.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Of the day?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of the DP show Horizon League tonight,
Northeast CIA and WCC. They will have tournament bids coming
up tonight. Sam Darnold going to Seattle. His thirty five
touchdown passes with the Vikings are the most by a
player who then changed teams in the.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Off season, topping blank Paul.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This guy had the most touchdown passes and then the
following season was with another team. Okay, Sam Darnold had
thirty five, surpassing this player, Paul Brett Farv No good guess,
Marvin Warren Moon, no, Todd.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Warner, no.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Dylan Ben Roethlisberger no what near the question eleven was eleven?
I tried to do one better than eleven, which is
Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And he never played for another team, but okay, I
mean he played quarterback, though he did, he played.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I heard was quarterbacks being listed.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You are, you're repping the back row quite well, you're
imitating Fritzie.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm a continuity guy there.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Okay, here you go. This guy is one of our
favorites in a good way, in a bad way. Say
hello to Jamis Winston. Everybody. Oh remember he was the
thirty thirty club. He had thirty three touchdown passes and
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thirty interceptions. Someone's catching a test and he went from
the Buccaneers to the Saints in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Day day today, This is the style of the day.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
By the way, today is the anniversary of one of
the more impactful, revolutionary, controversial, still controversial rules.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Anybody want to take a guess.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't want to give you the time period, but
it is the anniversary of, I believe, the first time
that this rule was implemented. If you want to call
it a rule, yeah, Pauline, I know I'm wrong the
shot clock, You're wrong. It's instant replay. Nineteen eighty six
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was the first time it was used. Has it been
a good thing? Has replay been a good thing?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Marvin?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yes, all except the des Bryn and catch it's been great.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, Todd, do you think instant replay has been well?
Replay has been a good thing, yes, okay, Dylan, don't say.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Ben Roethlisberger, Ben, Now, I think it's a necessary evil,
but it has flaws.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I'd say it's been mostly bad. It made us litigious
sports fans watching from minute to minute.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You would rather have something that you think you saw.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
If I could go back and do a do over,
I would say, no replay m and let it, let
it happen.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Think I think the majority would go with that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You still have to get it right, yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I think people love the human element and they think
it'll balance that balance itself out.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You get a couple, you lose a couple. Yeah, I
don't want the human elephant. That might be the human elephant.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I would say the viewing experience has been hurt because
of the delays. It adds drama sometimes and you're like,
look at the replay and you're screaming at the TV.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So that helps to.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I think it's a I agree, it's a necessary evil.
It's entertainment. It's it's impacted a lot of games, a
lot of sports. The fact that you know, when we
didn't have it, we didn't know what we didn't have,
and then you realize it and you're like, how many
how many moments in sports history would have been changed
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if you had replay. Now, everybody's going to go back
to the immaculate reception. Instant replay wouldn't have changed. They
wouldn't have overruled that the call on the field would
have stood because you still can't tell when you watch that.
But I think for the most part, it's been a
it's been a good ish thing for sports. Be weird
(14:50):
to not have replay watching again. Let me get to
Andrew and Washington. Then we'll take a break. We'll talk to.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Let's see Lewis Riddick from the mothership. It's going to
stop by.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Hey, Andrew, good morning, Dan's thanks for taking my call.
Just had a little thing on the Lakers. I think
leg groin is good for the Lakers. I disagree with Marv.
We agree with Paulie. You can't prove a stream growing
sort of like a stomach flu, and so it gives
him a little bit of rest before the playoff push.
I don't think it matters where we go. I think
(15:21):
the Lakers will end up in the finals, as far
as whatever they're seating is in the playoffs. I do
have a NFL draft tied to the face bet with Paulie.
We've done this two or three years. My bet if
Polly wants to take it is that more running backs
will be taken in the first round than quarterbacks. And
if there's a tie, we both take a pie.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right now, it feels like there's two quarterbacks that you
can pencil in first round and two running backs right now.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So Andrew, are you taking running backs?
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (16:01):
I think there'll be more running backs than quarterbacks taken
in the first round of this year NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
All right, Paul, I will take that.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I think he's riding the wave of running back too high.
There may be two. I think someone's gonna jump back
into the first round and draft Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But just so you know, if you tie I, I goes
to the runner. I goes no, Ty goes to the pie.
You both get pies. So I have to win to
unpie myself.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And by the way, the weather is nice and a
front row and a back row guy have pies. I
think Friday we should we should do that. Pie equals
you two squared. Okay, see what I did with that,
Todd very Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Weather permitting.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Okay, Paul, what's the forecast for Friday?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You said the over under was forty nine and a
half degrees. Yeah, for pie weather. Yes, high a fifty
one on Friday. Yes, Yes, it's going to be pie Day.
We're gonna do this on pie Dick.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
See if I did. It's a meat a meat pie Dick.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
What Marvin, it's fifty degrees Yeah, I said forty nine
and a half.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
That's not warm enough for no podca it is no
come on, Oh I'm soft.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes you are.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes, you don't get an argument.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I'm going a polar plunge. It's a pile to the face. Yes, Dylan, what.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
If Marvin's allowed to sit in his car and crank.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
The heat and he takes the pie and there you
would like you'd like to do it nice recovery down.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes, we can do that.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm in all right, So pie to the pie to
the face on Friday, Dodd, let's do it. Okay, we'll
take a break. We'll talk to Lewis Riddick the mother Ship.
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
I watched a little bit of Yukon women be Creton
in the Big East Tournament championship game page Becker's twenty
four points. I don't think Paige Becker's ever lost a
conference game in her career. I believe she went sixty
six and oh against competition in the Big East.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Marvin, you might check that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Being a Yukon Husky fan, I'm gonna check that, right, Yeah,
I think she went sixty six and oh against the
Big East.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
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Speaker 2 (19:27):
Lewis Riddick for the Mothership ESPN College Football, NFL analyst
and a former front office executive with the Eagles and
Washington All right, Instant replay came into our world on
this day in nineteen eighty six. Has instant replay been
good for sports or bad?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Look?
Speaker 12 (19:53):
I think it's been both. And I know that sounded
like a little bit of a cop out, right. I
think you you want to maintain as much of the
human element the game as possible. You don't want to
slow it down too much. You don't want to have
it be a constant barade of replays. But you know what,
when there are game changing plays games, I mean, plays
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that can really just really substantially affect the outcome, and
you know that they are blatantly missed. I think that's
when replay, when it gets it right in those kinds
of situations, I think that's good for the game because
I think ultimately that's what we all want. We want
to you know, we want the right teams to win
by abiding by the rules and the teams to be
punished that.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Don't abide by the rules.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
So it's you're never Dan, I don't think you're ever
going to have like one hundred percent consensus of whether
or not replay is good good for the game or not,
because as soon as you start there's too many replays,
people start complaining about the fact that it's slowing down
the game, and you know what.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Just let the refs ref. And then as soon as
ref's miss and as soon as the refs miss a call,
it's like, which which league.
Speaker 12 (20:55):
Do the ref suck more? Is it an NBA or
is it the NFL? Is it the script after these
games rigged? Is Grogoral Goodell trying to protect Patrick Mahomes
blah blah blah. No one's ever happy. That's kind of
like the world we live in right now.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I was always bothered it came in as instant replay.
Then they changed it to replay because it was an
instant So that was one of my big problems. All right,
let me you. You worked in two front offices. You
worked with the Eagles in Washington. I'm going to put
you in the Steelers' front office. Yeah, you decide who's
going to be your quarterback Between Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 12 (21:30):
I would look, I would I would go with with
Aaron because I said all along, I believe the organization
needs him. He needs this kind of organization. I think
at this point in his career. What's my rationale for that?
Why do they need him?
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Pittsburgh needs to level up somehow, some way at quarterback.
They just do. They have been stuck in this kind
of like mid range, mid tier.
Speaker 12 (21:54):
Mode of operating at that position and figured as though
Michael Tomlin could coach his way around and the defense
could create enough turnovers to get around, that they could
run the ball well enough to get around, that they
could play renegade enough to where they would create some
kind of magic in the stadium and that would be enough.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
And it's not enough.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
They've got to level up somehow, and that's either through veteran,
the veteran market, or the draft where they're drafting right now.
Is it possible for them to still get someone late
in the first round that could wind up helping them
at the position. Yeah, I believe that there is. But
when we're just talking about free agency, Aaron levels up
for them. He just does with his knowledge, which I would.
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I still think he has left in the gas tank
as far as his ability to play the game and
how he could help this offense, in particular the passing
game become more dynamic. He will need to abide by
a much more rigid structure in Pittsburgh and not think
that he can come in there and bring in all
of his buddies bringing got you there, and pick and
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pick his offensive coordinator and call the plays that he
wants all the time and like basically run the show.
He's not running the show and he doesn't really need
to at this point, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't entrust
him to do that anyway, And Mike's not gonna let
him do that, and Arthur Smith's not gonna let him
do that. So I think he needs to just focus
on playing ball, coming back the second year off of
this Achilles and actually going out the way he wants
to go out and have people look at him the
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way he wants people to look at him. Pittsburgh needs
the level up. So yeah, I think it's a I
think it's a good combination on the surface. Now, we
don't know how Mike feels about that. We don't know
how Arthur Smith feels about that. We don't know how
DK Metcalf and George Pickens are going to react Aaron
Rodgers getting in their rear.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
End about not doing things the right way.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
There's a lot of things that still would have to
be worked out, but that's that's the same thing is
true with every free agent transaction.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
There's always going to be things to work out.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
But then, does Russ in the Game of Musical Chairs
end up with the Giants?
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Probably? He probably does.
Speaker 12 (23:47):
And you know what I think, Look, I think both
of these guys at this point in time in their
career are bridge players. It's just a matter of whether
or not that's a one year bridge or a multiple
year bridge. In Pittsburgh, it could be a multiple year
bridge for Aaron because they don't have a they're not
really in position to get what we would term as
a surefire long term solution given where they're drafting. So
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he may be going into he can be possibly going
into a situation there where he could extend this thing
to two, maybe.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Three years, if he wanted to play that long.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
If you're in, if you're in New York, you know
for sure, Russell Wilson, that being Russell Wilson knows for
sure that as soon as he walks in there, he's
already on the clock. They're already thinking about what the
next option is. Then it may be this year, who knows,
but they may think, Hey, you know what, we'll sit pat,
We'll play with Russ for a year, We'll draft Travis Spunter.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Maybe we'll move down, who knows.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
Maybe we'll accumulate some more picks and continue to try
and build out this roster, which is you know what,
I'll tell you what I know. It sounds like I'm
gonna be ranting here a little bit, but that that's
probably one of the most annoying things for me to
hear at this time of year, all the times.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
Let's trade down and get more picks.
Speaker 12 (24:50):
And build up the roster, and then just plug in
the quarterback like you need to pick one off of
my grandma's cherry tree and plug him in there. But
that may be what they're thinking. I don't know if
I'm Joe Shane right now, though I'm Brian Daball. I'm
thinking I need to win some games, man, and I
need to win.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Them this year.
Speaker 12 (25:07):
So that's what makes this time of year so fun
to see how these teams ultimately wind up constructing the roster,
who they getting, and how it pans out.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
In New York.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
There's gonna be no team you talk about more next
year than the Giants, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And we have a bet on the show the uh
will there be more running backs than quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Taken in the first.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Guys talking about that?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
All right, that's a good one. What do you think I.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Think it will be running backs?
Speaker 12 (25:33):
Months ago of GM who I respect, A Ton said, look,
this is the best year I've seen for running backs
since I've been a general manager. He's been a general
manager for a little bit now, and he's someone who
really does do a good job of evalue waiting that
position in particular. And I agree, I've seen a bunch
of these guys in person this year, and when you
start watching the tape, you have guys who are big, strong,
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powerful dudes, and you've got some guys who are kind
of like Jamier Gives. I don't want to say scatback
type dudes, but guys were real electric in terms of
their ability to stop starting go seventy eighty on you.
And even the big dudes can do that. I mean,
you look at a Marion Hampton, you start thinking Joe Mixon.
I mean, I'm sitting there watching him, and I'm going, Damn,
is that Joe Mixon in a North Carolina uniform? And
then you look at Ashton and I'm telling you people,
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you know, people think I'm crazy.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
I'm going, that's EMITTT. Smith with better speed. That's what
it is. That's what that is.
Speaker 12 (26:21):
Now watch Brashard Smith from SMU. I'm sitting there going,
if that ain't Engineer Gibbs, I don't know who is.
There's all kinds, man, there's all kinds. And if you
need if you're if you need it back this year,
I mean you may not take him in the top ten,
top fifteen, although I think Ashton deserves to.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Go that high.
Speaker 12 (26:39):
I think you will see This will be a heavy
year for backs going in the first round, top of
a second for sure, and once that run starts, there's
gonna be people just picking them off.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Lewis Riddick part of ESPN's ongoing NFL free agent coverage.
You can catch him with Adam Schefter and more today
on ESPN from three until five. You're sold on cam
Ward going as the number one, number one quarterback? Are
you sold that Shador Sanders is a first round quarterback?
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Yes?
Speaker 12 (27:08):
I am top fifteen, he's a top half of the
first round.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Okay, he's a top half.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
But where where is this negativity coming from? And I
like it's on the field and then a little bit
off the field with how he interviewed with one coach
at the combine, it feels like it was a smear
campaign because once it happened that all of a sudden,
it's boom, everybody kind of jumped on this.
Speaker 12 (27:34):
Why of course, Look, they've been trying to people have
been at this game, so to speak, of trying to
talk certain prospects down for years.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Dion is a lightning rod. That's where it starts. It
doesn't even start with Shador.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
This is about this starts with his father, and then
it just trickles down to him, and it starts with
his father. It's been that way since I played with
Deon back in nineteen ninety two in Atlanta. People don't
like flashy guys like that who can back it up.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
They just don't. They don't like people who are strong, confident.
Speaker 12 (28:06):
There you know, it's funny, like we love it, but
then with some people we don't. Let With Dion, he's
always been a polarizing player to the people.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Who don't know him.
Speaker 12 (28:16):
If you know him personally, you would be like, I
get it and I love it, Give me.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
More of it. With Shador, he has some of his
father in him. There's no question. How could he not.
He's the man.
Speaker 12 (28:26):
I mean, he's the man's son, and so a lot
of it comes from who he is and what his
last name is. Now, as far as him individually, why
do they pick at him on the field.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Does he have cam Ward's arm?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
No?
Speaker 12 (28:41):
Do you need cam Ward's arm? Do you need John
Elway's arm? Do you need Josh Allen's arm in order
to play high level winning football in the NFL. No,
But at this time of year, we always fall back
to those baseline, those baseline levels in terms of like
evaluating quarterbacks and saying, well, if you don't have a
rocket army, you can't play. If you don't run for
like Lamar and can create outside of structure and throw
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the ball and switch it to your left hand like
Patrick Mahomes, you can't play.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
You're either a.
Speaker 12 (29:06):
Hall of Famer or you suck. And that's what it
always comes down to this time of your quarterbacks. There
is no in between, and that quite honestly, I think
that that discussion stems from the fact that I don't
know if people really ever know what the hell they
really think about quarterbacks because it's such a dependent position
and it's so hard to get your arms around it.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Shador is very smart. He can process like hell.
Speaker 12 (29:28):
He's a good leader, he's got good feet in the pocket,
he throws a great ball, he has a lot of anticipation.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
And he's tough as hell. He got the crap bait
at him in at Colorado.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
Yeah, I was at games and calling games where I'm
sitting there looking at Dion, who is like pleading with
this on throw the ball away, or pleading with offensive coordinator,
run the ball. My son's getting murdered out here. He'll
be fine.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
They'll be just Daniel Jones just signed with the Colts.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is he going in thinking he gets to compete for
that job?
Speaker 8 (30:03):
There's no question.
Speaker 12 (30:04):
I mean, why else would you switch teams at this
point considering what you have in Minnesota in terms of
the weapons that they have, the coaching staff. And I'm
not taking anything away from Shane Stichen because a lot
of respect for shame. Daniel Jones is looking for an
opportunity to really compete, to play, and you're not going
to tell me otherwise that The people in Indianapolis didn't
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tell him that you are going to have a chance
to compete. We want somebody to push Anthony and if
you beat him out, you beat him out, simple as that.
That isn't happening in Minnesota. They are trying to get
JJ ready to play this year. They're not going to
force it, but they're trying to get him ready to play.
The way he looked the last offseason and the way
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he looked in the first preseason game against the Raiders
told you this kid's developmental arc is going to go
straight up. There's a reason why they drafted him tenth. Overall,
it reminds me a little bit of the way Kansas
City was trying to bring along Patrick when they had
Alex Smith there. The only thing that derailed things is
that he got hurt, is that JJ got hurt. Daniel
knows that he was there every day. He knows how
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they feel about him. He knows he doesn't really have
a chance to start there. If JJ's kne's fine, it's over.
That's why he went to Indy. And if I'm Anthony
Richardson right now, what I'm really interested to see is
how he responds Dan to this.
Speaker 8 (31:23):
How does he respond? It's gonna be I hate it
for the kid.
Speaker 12 (31:26):
It's gonna be so hard for him to ever shake
the stigma that's gonna follow him, the story that's gonna
follow him because of that one decision he made down
there in Houston.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
How many years did you play defensive back?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Seven? Okay? How many?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Give me the number of quarterbacks that actually made you nervous.
I don't want to stay scared.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You can say scared. Who scared you? When you go,
oh my god, we're playing him.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
John Elway.
Speaker 12 (31:59):
Because he had ted with him, had Rod Smith had
shining sharp offensive line had Tom Nalan, Mark Schlair, Dan
neil Tony Jones, and that that play action passing game
was just so ridiculously good. That was a year the
TV went for two thousand and it was just like
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as a safety, I was like, I know, I got
to get up here and support this run because when
this guy starts going downhill, it's over. And these linemen
start getting up on it's over. And I did that
one time early in the game in l Way pulled
that thing out of there and launched it. And I'm
telling you, in mid play, you can tell I can
tell you. You can already guess the words that were
(32:40):
coming out of my mouth. Oh oh yeah, all of them,
f words everything.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
The thing.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
The only thing that saved me, honestly was Charles Woodson
was the corner and he broke the play up and
I remember jogging back to the huddle and I was like,
and he was like, hey, you know, but yeah, l
Way Marino, I got to play against Danny when he
was uh, when he had Mark Duper and Mark Clayton
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and Keith Jackson and those guys down in Miami. He
came out first play of the game. He comes out
and you stand there at the line and he looks
at me and he winked, and I went, what does
that mean?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Does he mean? Does that mean I found my guy?
What does that mean? You know, hail the Pitt?
Speaker 11 (33:30):
What does that mean?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
Man? So yeah, those dudes were Steve.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
Oh you know what I would be It would be
disrespectful for me to dismiss Steve Young Steve when he
was when they were in San Francisco, I played against
him when I was in when I was in Atlanta,
and when I was in Cleveland. They had it rolling
at that time, Dan, I mean, they had it rolling.
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Steve was so mobile and so fast, and Brent Jones
was so crappy, and they had Jerry and they had
John Taylor and Ricky Waters and I mean it was
a come on, this isn't fair. It's not fair. So yeah,
I got to play against some great ones.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Man.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
I mean so much respect for those guys. Were you
literally were like I can't make a mistake.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
I can't.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
And even if you and even if you were perfect,
sometimes it just didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Always great to spend time.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I know it's a busy time for you, but thanks
for carving out of course, a few minutes, Buddy always man.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership NFL Free Agency coverage
on ESPN. That'll be later today from three until five.
We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls, what
we learn, what's in store for tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Last call for phone calls, What we learned, what's in
store tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
On the way, DraftKings has the updated Super Bowl odds.
It is the Eagles the favorites, followed by Chiefs, Bills.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And Ravens, and then the Lions.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So Eagles be a slight favorite over the Chiefs, Bills,
and Ravens and the Lions according to DraftKings. By the way,
I'm looking at the Sam Donald contract. The real value
is the guaranteed money. It's fifty five million, So essentially
Seattle was committed to Sam Donald for two years, an
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average of twenty seven and a half million per year.
Very reasonable and today's you know, quarterback market, that's very reasonable.
And I think Sam Donald realized if I want to
continue to be a starter in the NFL. I have
to temper the expectation, financial expectations.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I might have.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Daniel Jones signed a one year deal for fourteen million
dollars with the Colts.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
That doesn't feel backup.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
If fourteen million dollars, I think he's going in there
thinking I have a real chance to be the starting
quarterback here.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
But that just happened.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Also took another option off the table for Aaron Rodgers,
even though we hadn't heard much about the Colts. With
Aaron Rodgers, feels like it's Pittsburgh unless they don't want him,
and then it would probably be the Giants. Let me see,
how about this day in sports history? I gave you
one earlier nineteen eighty six. The NFL adopts instant replay.
(36:30):
What else do you have?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
PAULI?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Eighteen ninety two, the first organized women's basketball game was
played at Smith College between students and faculty members. I
do not have the score. I've been looking for it.
Nineteen seventy nine. I've never heard of this guy. Randy
Holt of the La Kings was penalized nine times for
sixty seven minutes in the first period of a game
against the Philadelphia Flyers. That's first period. That's a record
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nineteen ninety. You know, looking back, this seems a little haphazard.
Thirteen year old Jennifer Capriotti played her first tennis match
the way that the fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Thirteen seem pretty much, and she was on the cover
of Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
And then that's it.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Today?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Is she the youngest athlete to ever appear on the
cover Sports Illustrator at thirteen? Because I'm trying to think,
and you would, boy, and if you're the magazine and
you're the editor, do you want to put somebody on?
Who's that young? Tracy Austin was really young? Was Freddie
(37:36):
Adou on the cover of Sports Illustrated checking soccer player?
I think he was fifteen? You got Lebron Bryce Harper.
I think Jennifer Capriotti was thirteen when she was on
the cover.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I've got a bunch of high school kids like Bryce
Harper and different NBA players that were in high school.
I'm trying to find someone younger than Caprioti.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Thirteen. Wow?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Okay, uh, Larry and ours hi Larry?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
What's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (38:03):
DP?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
How are you great?
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Good? Well? Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 14 (38:07):
My question is about Schador Sanders Lewis touched on it
just a little bit. But the fact is that with
Dion being the dad, how will this impact anybody looking
to draft him? Would that be a plus a negative?
And you know in difference, I just have a feeling
that with Dion being there, there's going to be some
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teams that may steer away just because of his big personality.
And just curious about your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I just want to know if he can play, that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
If it's a detrimental type of personality, then okay, then
we have a conversation here. If he's bold, confident, cocky,
but he can play. I don't want to pass up
on somebody. I just I think sometimes, you know, we
get caught up in silly things. What's his hand size?
(38:58):
You know, even forty yard day? I just want to
can you play football? And you know, the pedigree is there.
He's not the athlete his dad is, so there's there
are negatives there. And as I pointed out, I put
him third on my Heisman ballot because he's tough and
he hung in there and that you know, and I
watched a lot of his games, not highlights games. But
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you know that's different. That's college. That's what the ward
is voted on. And I'm looking at the NFL. He's
not you know what, six'. One he's not going to elude,
you DO i think he throws a good. Ball, YEAH i,
Guess BUT i you, know does he know how to
(39:42):
check at the line of? Scrimmage does he? Process like
these are things that are? Big that's WHAT i want to.
Know you get the line of? Scrimmage do you know
what you're?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Doing that's. It the other.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
STUFF i don't want to pass up on a on
a talent just because oh he comes off a Cocky
chuck And. Dayton, Hi, chuck what's on your?
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Mind?
Speaker 14 (40:03):
Hey how are you?
Speaker 13 (40:04):
Today i'm glad you're taking my.
Speaker 9 (40:05):
Call i'll make it.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Quick of your hold?
Speaker 13 (40:08):
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Speaker 2 (40:11):
BAND i don't. KNOW i haven't been on, hold but,
uh all, right that'd be kind of weird IF i
was on a hold on my own. Show But i'll
check that.
Speaker 13 (40:21):
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the five of the most famous sports photos who would you?
Pick i've got Three the eighty Six masters With Jack,
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bobby or scoring.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
The, goal what other? Thing those are?
Speaker 8 (40:43):
Great?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah ollie in the ninety Six olympics when he's lighting
the uh the flame the urn there or whatever it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Was that was pretty. Dramatic, Yeah Marvin.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Jordan's last shot against The Utah jazz in ninety.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Eight, yeah that's, Great, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
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was a gymnast Named Christy, phillips The New mary Lou september,
one nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
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Speaker 5 (41:10):
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Speaker 3 (41:15):
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Speaker 4 (41:16):
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Speaker 3 (41:21):
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Speaker 3 (41:28):
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Speaker 2 (41:30):
Lune thank, you thanks for the phone, calls, emails. Tweets
we'll talk to you, Tomorrow dan and The Dan euts