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March 31, 2025 41 mins

Fomer NBA All-Star Gilbert Arenas stops by to share his experience with playing in the Final Four and weighs in on this season’s tournament. Plus, Dan and the Danettes discuss the innovative “torpedo” bats being used by the Yankees.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the final hour on this Monday. More of your
phone calls, best and worst of the weekend. One of
our favorites, great storyteller, Gilbert Arenas, will stop buying a
little bit eight seven to seven three DP show. Good morning.
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(00:26):
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guy as well. Stat of the day brought to you
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question for the final hour. The odds for the final
four has Florida favored by two and a half against
Auburn and Duke favored by four and a half against Houston.

(00:49):
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for the.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Poll question for the final hour, Yeah, we just put
one up there for Paulie. Torpedo bats look illegal? Should
be illegal? Or anyone can use them, So no big deal.
You want to guess where that one's.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Falling. I'm gonna think that the audience is going to
side where anybody can use it.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Anybody can use them, So it's a big deal. That's
fifty six percent of the audience right there.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
By the way, Stanford has a new football coach. Stanford
is hiring Frank Reich the interim football coach. According to ESPN,
it's a one year deal. They had some issues with
Troy Taylor. He was there for a couple of years
and had been accused of bullying and belittling female athletic staffers,

(01:44):
and that was one of the first things that Andrew
Luck did as their general manager as he fires him
and brings in Frank Reich as the interim head football coach. Right,
right thing to do. Let's think, was it worth to
interrupting me?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
We'll get to more of your phone calls coming up.
It was a busy weekend in basketball, obviously, with Florida
surviving Texas Tech Duke Rolls, Houston Rolls in Auburn over
Michigan State as well Villanova. No surprise, they got Kevin
Willard from Maryland. The NFL Competition Committee voting on Tuesday,

(02:27):
and one of the items is going to be the
Tush push. And it feels like there's a ground swell here,
there's momentum of getting rid of them. Tonight it's Connecticut
and USC what could have been with Juju Watkins against
Page Becker's Yukon is the favorite to win the national
title according to DraftKings TCU in Texas. In the other game,

(02:49):
Mike and Wisconsin, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Mary Dan?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
With Duke.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
They hit a couple losses in the regular season, but
they also had ten thirty point you know, thirty point
plus wins, and then they just beat Alabama by twenty
Are they in the conversation with one of the best
teams ever if they go on to win the championship
by twenty thirty? Or is it competition as a lesser?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, you're going against number one seeds. Now if they
knock out the number one seed and another number one seed,
what Connecticut did the previous two years pretty impressive. I
saw where the running Rebels of UNLV are going to
put out their own documentary with Larry Johnson and Stacy Augman.
So I think Anderson Hunt and Greg Anthony. So I

(03:39):
think they're going to put out their own documentary. Yes, Paul.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
If that documentary really dives deep and is honest, people
will love it what they were doing back there in
the day.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
They're not. I don't think they're going to spill. I
don't think they'll spill. And it's not a documentary, right
and then well, it's like a reality show. Isn't reality.
It's scripted to make it look like it's reality. You know,
if you get stories great, you know Tark's no longer
with us, unlike Nolan Richardson. Tark is no longer with us.

(04:13):
When I was listening to Stephen A telling you know,
God rest his soul, the late Great, and then you
can't tell me you knew he was alive. When you
say the late Great, you know, God rest his soul.
Sometimes you just take the l you just go, oh,
my bad, sorry about that, Nolan. It's okay. It's worse

(04:38):
when you go, no, odd and didn't make a mistake.
I know he's alive, the late Great. Nolan Richardson. I
have to be honest. I didn't know he was still alive.
But I didn't know he was daddy.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Either, you'd rather lean towards alive on air and then
you can that's easier to clean up. Nolan Richardson eighty
three years old and counting.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh good good, I hope he's still counting. Yes, yes, Todd.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
Maybe he was often not punctual, so he was the
late great Nolan Richardson.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
There's never on time.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
They're not even dying.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, but I think he also said, God rest his soul.
I knew he was still alive. You did not made
a mistake, big deal. You can't know everything. You can't. Uh,
John in Minnesota, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (05:35):
So the Cooper flags. It just drives me nuts so
early because there's so many can't miss prospects and you
just don't know until they actually play. And I remember,
so I'm the same exact age in Minnesota. Right here
in Minnesota, I played against Joe Mauer and Larryzgerald in
high school sports. And I remember playing summer basketball and

(05:58):
by the way, I was the word player in this room.
But Joe Mauer was two time All States, Larry Fitzgerald
with All Conference. There was a guy that used to
come back and play with US Nick Horvat who played
at Duke, but in Minnesota he was legendary. My point
is they would come back to the summer camps. All

(06:19):
anyone talked about was a guy named Darius Miles. That's
all anyone talked about. He's the next Jordan. He's amazing,
He's going to the league, He's going to dominate. And
then he averaged like, I think nine points a game,
and that had a pretty lackluster career over there in LA.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think he was at a basketball camp. Didn't he
block Jordan's shot when they were playing one on one?
If I have the right player, I think there's video
of that where Mike was going one on one with
a camper and Darius Miles might have blocked his shot
going to the hoop. But yeah, things change, and that's
why when the expectation level for Cooper Flag is going

(06:58):
to be at an all time hunt. But look at
the number one picks that we've had in the last
fifteen years. I mean, some have lived up to the expectations,
some exceeded, and some didn't even come close to that.
Cooper Flag is really good, really talented player. I want
to see where he goes the coach that develops him.

(07:22):
This is a whole process here. You just don't show
up and then all of a sudden you're great. I mean,
Shack took time to develop. If you look at him
at LSU, he was raw. If he came out after
his freshman year and the expectation, he wouldn't have lived
up to the expectations immediately, but he got time to develop.

(07:43):
Latner dominated him in college, and Shaq realized that he
had to get better and understand the game, and then
of course became one of the all time greats. Yes, Mark, The.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
Crazy thing is when I was a kid leaving early,
was leaving after your junior year? Now he used to
be maybe like Stephan Marbury and Tim Thomas were the
only guys I could remember when I was a kid
that left after even after one year, they must be
crazy nice. But now it's you're staying two years.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, but you know there's certain players that need to
get that extra year. They want to Steph Curry did.
Steph realized he wasn't ready yet. He needed to develop
his handle, which sounds crazy, but yes, he needed to
develop his handle. By the way, I was watching videos.
Over the weekend, I was watching Jamal Crawford videos when

(08:38):
he's playing pickup games. I have to apologize to him.
His handle was spectacular. Now I didn't see that in
the pros, and maybe not at Michigan. But and I'm
watching a Peyton Pritchard compilation video, and Marvin and I
talk about this all the time. You know, we look
at Peyton Pritchard of the Celtics, he played it Oregon.

(09:00):
Oh yeah, nice little guy there. Yeah, it's a nice
little career there. And watch watches like G League or
high school, you know, compilation highlight. Holy smokes, there is
so much of a like the level of that guy
is really good. That guy's great to where it is

(09:21):
with the regular guy who may have been a good
basketball player in high school or even college. And you
start to look at these videos and it's just you
don't look at Peyton. You won't look at Peyton Pritchard
the same way. If you look at this, he is
just dominating. He's just taking people off the dribble, deep three, everything,
coast to coast. All of this Jamal Crawford dribbling guy's

(09:44):
falling down. It's it's almost like white chocolate. Jason Williams
when he was doing those pickup games when he's like
forty years of age. He's just dominating guy, dominating and
having fun. But yeah, you can tell what kind of
weekend I had. I'm watching Peyton Pritchard and Jamal Crawford videos.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
Yes, Marvin, yeah, you sent those to me, and I'm
sitting there going, first of all, you live a full life.
I Second of all, I've been telling people. I was like, guys,
you're right. Somebody told me this once. You know how
good you have to be to be a scrub in
the NBA. And obviously Payting Pitcher and Jamal they're not scrubs.
But that last guy on the bench, he's killing everybody
at your local YMCA, your local PRORAM because he was

(10:24):
a legend wherever he's from.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well, you look at these videos and I was just like,
first of all, I saw the video and I go,
who is this guy? And then I realized it Peyton
Pritchard of the Boston Celtics. Now I loved him at Oregon,
but I didn't know if that translates to the NBA.
You just watch a guy and he is all over
the place, energetic, deep shooter. Took a little while, but

(10:48):
he's had a couple of moments here, what do you have?
Thirty nine? The other night, a couple of weeks ago,
A couple more phone calls in here, Uh Nick in Irvine? Hi, Nick,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Hey? Damn?

Speaker 10 (11:00):
And you know those movies where some like an asteroid
comes and hits the water and a giant wave comes
and you see all the people in New York City
looking up and it's like taller than all the buildings.
That's what it's like to be a Dodger fan right now.
And the Dodgers are that wave. And every game we
just sit there and watch and we we were that wave.

(11:24):
And it's I've been a fan for so long of
the LA teams, and it happened in the eighties with
the Lakers, but that's been it. But it's happening again.
And the Mookie walk off in the extra innings and
then the Dodgers sweep of the Tigers. That's my best
of the weekend. And it's fun to be on top

(11:44):
of that wave. The Lakers who are also like that wave,
but just not as big. Their waves a little smaller.
Right now, I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Know if I would say that they're on a wave
right now, Nick, No.

Speaker 10 (11:58):
No, no, they're getting healthy. And they had this dagger
game at the end of a four game trip. They
were just they suffered in that game where they lost
in the half court shot, and then they had a
tough game last of a four game trip. Everyone's dying
to get home, and oh it was just Lebron twenty eight,
eight and six, Luca twenty nine to nine and eight,

(12:21):
and my favorite Laker, Austin Reeves thirty one, eight and seven.
If that happens, if that happens consistently, which it has
barely consistently since the Luca trade. But there was a
health thing. But if that happens, they're not No one's
going to beat them.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah they will if they don't play defense. And they
barely beat Indiana, so you got to factor that in
as well. But thank you for the phone call, and
enjoy the Dodgers' success. As I've said, I'll take the
field only because I know how this works. You can
be unbelievable and poster child the Seattle Mariners when they

(13:02):
won two one and sixteen games. You better be ready
and have everything ready for the postseason, because you're gonna
run into somebody who matches your strengths in some areas,
and then it's going to come down to can you
get consistent pitching, timely hitting. It's a full proof format

(13:23):
of what I'm blueprint. I've seen it too many times.
Oh my god, that team got bounced.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, it's not one and done like it is in
most sports or some sports, but four of seven, yes,
would that be difficult. Absolutely, But you're going to run
into somebody or some team and they're gonna be on
a burner and you might be coasting to the end
of the regular season. You might be, hey, do we

(13:50):
get another win or not. Let's rest some people here,
Hey we clinched a long time ago. Then you get
into competition and you got to try to ratchet that
back up. Enjoy it while you can, and Laker fans,
your team has to play, defense, has to play and
if they do, then, as I said, they can go
to the Western Conference finals. I really believe that.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Point The Dodgers have made the playoffs thirteen seasons in
a row. They're a powerhouse. They've only didn't finish first
one time. It is by one game. Of those thirteen
playoff appearances, they won two. You know, they were two
for thirteen, which any team, any franchise, would kill for
two for thirteen.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
We'll take a break. Gilbert Arenas will tell us some
stories coming up. We'll get to more phone calls as well.
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Speaker 2 (15:44):
More phone calls coming up. See what you update the
poll results final hour on this program. Yeah, we got
a couple of them going right now.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
NFL wants to change the tush push because of jealousy.
The final four right now said tenty six percent have
the best teams are there rather than it be disappointing.
And we got one more up there about the Yankees bets.
They look illegal, should be illegal or anyone can use them.
So it's so a big deal right now, anyone can
use them. Running away with that one.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
He's the host of Gills Arena podcast, three time All
Star with the Wizards and his show, his underdog hit
show just or passed one million subscribers. Look at you.
You're making moves, man, your make up moves this time
of the year. I think back to March Madness when

(16:35):
you guys played for the National Championship and you played
against Duke. What do you remember about that moment?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
That's funny because of Richard Jefferson.

Speaker 13 (16:48):
I remember the Final four against Michigan State where I
was doing a lot of gambling for steals and try
to get through a pinned down screen and Troy it
was Hudson and Zach Randolph closed that uh door on
me and I tore a soft tissue muscle in my chest.

(17:11):
I finished the game, but you know I was hurt
going into the championship game.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Or you would have beaten Duke. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Of course I was a man on fireback.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Was that Mike Dunlevy's Duke team.

Speaker 13 (17:25):
Yes, that was Mike dun Leaby's breakout game, you know.
But they had a loaded roster. Also that uh Jason
will or Jay Will Boozer. You had Duhan Young Duhan
Shane Battier was the best player on the team, so

(17:46):
they were there.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
They were also loaded.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Did you hate Duke?

Speaker 14 (17:52):
I did?

Speaker 13 (17:54):
I did because I thought, you know, even though I
was hurt, we still had a chance to win that game.
And I think there was like twenty two missed calls
in that game, which we felt we was reffed unfairly.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Wait wait, wait, who decided there were twenty two miss calls?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know, you know esping.

Speaker 13 (18:14):
After, you know, when you watch after, you know there
was a pivotal play where Jason Gardner was dribbling and
he stopped and Jay Will fell on him, which would
have been his third foul in the first and they
didn't even call him.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
He's just sitting there. Jay Will's fell all on him.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
He's just sitting there, just bouncing the ball, and they
never actually called that foul.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So you think Duke getting preferential treatment.

Speaker 13 (18:39):
It felt that way, It felt that it did feel
that way, But you know, it's the championship game.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You know, they can't call it everything.

Speaker 13 (18:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm curious with Nil, with your son and your daughter.
You do have the financial means that you know, but
do you still how are they taking advantage Will they
take advantage of nam him likeness? Your son and daughter
very very highly rated recruits.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yes, you know, I told them, you know, there's n
I L and then there's collective.

Speaker 13 (19:09):
Right most you know parents are mixing the two and
they don't understand the difference. N I L is your
name and likeness, so you have to be a popular
player and personality. The collective is what everyone's getting from
the school themselves, right, So you know the school money

(19:30):
is very different from the n IL NIL. You have
to earn through your performance, your social media presence. So
you know they're understanding. You know that that uh, that.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Situation okay, but are you their agent? Are you negotiating?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
No, No, I'll talk to agents right now.

Speaker 13 (19:54):
You know, my son is thinking about going with Clutch Sports,
you know, and you know, working on the NIL side
of it. You know, my daughter's still trying to figure out,
you know, what she wants to go with. I think
she might go with Aaron Goodwin for her NIL and
collective deals.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, and then your son reclassified.

Speaker 13 (20:16):
Yes, he went from being a junior to a senior,
so he can, you know, get into college early because
the collective money will be cut off April eighth and
then there will be a cap in college.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
But do you look at Cooper Flag at eighteen being
successful as any kind of blueprint or hey, my son
can do the same thing at the same age.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
You know, you can't, you can't.

Speaker 13 (20:43):
You can't compare, you know, your kids to these unicorn
type of kids. Well that's where a lot of parents
mess up, you know. Cooper Flag is one of those rare,
you know kids where you know you can't build the
blue and off of you know, those type of kids,
the Lebron James Cooper Flags, the Paulo ben Cheryls, the

(21:05):
Zion William though those are one offs. Right, Cooper Flag
will be successful. He's I mean, what can you say
about him? Right, he's the number one pick. He will
be the number one pick. And people say if AJ
was in this draft, he will be the number one pick. Yeah, right,
I'm sorry this Cooper Flag has it engine. You can't teach, right,
you can teach him skill, you can teach him the game.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
You can't teach how hard he plays this game.

Speaker 13 (21:31):
And seventeen you know, now eighteen, I'm drafting him number
one every single time.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, it's tricky. Now, who's the best player who couldn't
miss that you played against or with? Like everybody thought
that guy is going to be a star. And just
for whatever reason, wasn't that I.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
Played with or seen coming into the league. We'll probably
been in my draft where we had all the high
school kids.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
You know, Eddie Curry's.

Speaker 13 (21:59):
The Tyson Chaman.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
We knew he was just a defensive player.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
The Kwame Browns.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
How does Mike Michael Jordan take Kwame Brown?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
How does he upside? What?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh? Okay, so you're upside.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
You know.

Speaker 13 (22:15):
So what you're looking at is you're looking at the age,
You're looking at the body style, and you're looking at
the raw potend you of the player. Where what's his ceiling?
What's his his floor? And you know it's it's not
the kids that are the best, it's the organization because
you're taking this kid with the idea that you're gonna

(22:37):
build something great.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
So if you don't.

Speaker 13 (22:42):
Build something greater, if you don't have the infrastructure of
building you know, a player, then it's your it's your
fault because the eighteen year old doesn't know what to do.
He's coming in from high school straight into the NBA.
He doesn't know the landscape. So you have to teach him,
teach him that.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
But Jordan, you know, takes a chance on Kwame and
then Adam Morrison was the other end. He had been
in college, and both of these guys turned out to
be bussed. So, you know, Mike and a lot of
great players, former players have a hard time, you know,
assessing other players because their standards are so high.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's it's it's the standard.

Speaker 13 (23:22):
But it's also the delusion of what makes you great. Right,
So someone like Jordan, he thinks he's great or he
was great because of his fundamentals of the game.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Right. He doesn't consider the raw athleticism that he had, the.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
Big hands, the forty seven inch vertical, the fast twitch book.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
He doesn't consider that.

Speaker 13 (23:46):
So he looks at, you know, what made him the
greatest of all time, not what he came into the environment.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You already had have a gaudy.

Speaker 13 (23:54):
Engine and then you tweaked it for you know, every train.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
He's by in Honda's and drafted Hondas.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
Thinking he could turn him into bagattis like no, right,
So it's it's it's a little bit of the delusion
that he came into the world with the Bagatti.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Already we're talking to Gilbert Arena's co host of Gill's
Arena podcast. But you at Jordan Washington Wizard's version.

Speaker 13 (24:20):
No, I played against that. I was the person that
came in after he left.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh okay, yeah, so did you play against him as
a rookie?

Speaker 13 (24:30):
I played against them those first two years when he
came Washington.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay. And how was that.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
As a you know, I played.

Speaker 13 (24:37):
Him in I played against him in ninety nine, right
when he retired at Jordan Camp. When I played against
him in the NBA, it's Jordan's so you know, for
the most part, you're admiring as a young fan, but
you're also trying to show him that you belonged to
So you know, I dropped forty one on him.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Do you think he remembers that as well as you?

Speaker 13 (25:02):
Right? Yeah, you know, yeah he remembers it because you know,
you know, I was a Jordan Camp kid, I was
a counselor.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
So I was performing very well then too.

Speaker 13 (25:13):
So when I got to the NBA, I used to
talk a bunch of trash of how I did him.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
He said, this is the big leads. Nothing changed.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Do you ever have a situation where like Steven A
did with Lebron James, where a reporter a broadcaster that
you have an incident on the court.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
No, I understood media early.

Speaker 13 (25:36):
You know, I usually beat them to the punch, right,
So if I had a bad game, I I I
bring it up first. You know, I didn't let anyone
hit me with you know, your four for seventeen performance.
I was like, I know why you guys are here.
I was four for seventeen, So let's just get right
to it. So, you know, already lightened the room. But
you know, this is uncharted territory. You know, no one

(26:00):
ever played with their kid, no one ever had you know,
this type of situation where you can have this blended
gray area conversations.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
But what if you were in the league and your
son was able to go into the NBA and you
had that wealth of power that you said, hey, I'm
going to navigate this, so we draft my son to
be able to play with me at the end of
my career.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
But it did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay, I've been listen, let's just be honest.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Every parent would have did the same thing. Across the landscape.

Speaker 13 (26:31):
Most of you know, America, kids that go into the
business is not ready. They're not ready to take over
the business or get into the situations they get into.
But you know, as a parent, as a father, as
a mother, that is your job to prep your kid
and get them ready for this level.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
So you know what lebron did, every parent would have.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
But if you if you rewind and.

Speaker 13 (26:56):
Go back to you know, the fifty fifth pick, who
did they who was available? That's showing you right now
they should have been that pick No.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
One right.

Speaker 13 (27:07):
So being nineteen years old, athletic for a point guard
six too fast, right, strong, can shoot, can dribble.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Right, that was the right pick.

Speaker 13 (27:19):
And you know people have to remember that Clutch said,
if you pick him earlier, then we're trying.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
To we're going to go overseas.

Speaker 13 (27:29):
So there was teams interested before fifty fifth.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
How have you assessed Bronnie? Have you been critical?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yes, I'm I'm I live in reality right wait? Yeah, true?
But from the forty from the fortieth pick to the
sixtieth pick, what am I expecting from these guys? Right?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (28:00):
A bench filler, someone who's gonna go to the G League.
They'll probably be be out of the league by two years. Right,
Maybe they might get to the third year, but most
of these guys are not getting to a second contract.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
So where Brownie is?

Speaker 13 (28:15):
I figured Okay, by the time his third year comes around,
he would be usable in NBA, you know, come in,
you know, last two minutes of the game, last three minutes.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
You know, he'd be one of those type of players.

Speaker 13 (28:29):
I did not expect him to be dominated in the
G League right now.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I thought he had to learn how to be aggressive.
The bones of his game was already there, right, fast
and jump.

Speaker 13 (28:41):
You can't teach that being aggressive in the shell shock
of Curry Jamaran, Yeah, that was gonna get that gets
to everyone, number one pick to the sixtieth pick, right.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
So I'm impressed with.

Speaker 13 (28:54):
How fast he actually turned his game around, and you
can see the confidence in him.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Who are the best offensive players in your career that
you faced that.

Speaker 13 (29:03):
I faced, Uh, Cody Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Alan Iverson.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's a pretty good list.

Speaker 13 (29:14):
Yeah, uh, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, I can, I can
even I can put Tim Duncan up there, Vince Carter, Right.
So I came in Dwayne Wade like Carmelo Anthony right.
So the the era I came in is basically, if
you look at the top five shooting guards of all time,

(29:36):
I actually played against all of.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Them, Who's the best shooter of all time? Best shooter
Steph Curry? Okay, not even close, not even close. How
would you do in a shooting contest.

Speaker 13 (29:53):
If we if we had to shoot a hundred times,
I'll probably win ten, ten to fifteen of those games.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
It's it's it's.

Speaker 13 (30:04):
When you when you're talking about that elite, the Reggie Miller's,
the Birds, the Craig Hodges, the Clay's even you know
Kevin Durant Kawhi is a great shooter. It's about who
can empty their brain the longest. Meaning there's no thought, right,
There's not oh did I leave the stove on? Is

(30:24):
anybody watching?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Right?

Speaker 13 (30:26):
It's just it's just Homer Simpson. It's Homer Simpsons moment.
Who can be Homer Simpson the longest?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
No?

Speaker 10 (30:32):
Right?

Speaker 13 (30:33):
And I think that you know, Curry and Clay seems
like they can sustain it longer than you know, everybody
else I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
But it feels like there's a really wide margin, Gilbert
between the greatest shooter of all time and then whoever
is the second greatest shooter of all time?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's the longevity, and.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
But it's Ray Allen, like, Who's the second greatest shooter
of all time, probably Clay.

Speaker 13 (31:00):
I'm sorry to say, I really believe it's Klay Thompson
because the shots he's had to take, the valume, the
microscope of it, the sixty points with you know, less
than eleven dribbles. Right, those guys didn't do that. I mean,
the shot ability wasn't in uh the era then. But

(31:22):
just to see he's doing that with two Hall of
Famers first ballot on his roster. If you remove those guys,
I mean, Jesus Christ, Clay would have been first ballot.
He still might be a first ballot, but you would
be saying he is the greatest shooter of all time.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
It's just the ways he did it.

Speaker 13 (31:40):
Now, if I'm going to take clutch, I'm going with
Reggie Miller, right, Reggie Miller's clutch shooting is above.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
You know those guys.

Speaker 13 (31:51):
Ray Allen is in between of a guy who was
a I call it like a perfect perfect player shooter,
where he was very athletic, he can shoot, he can
playmake right, so he was he was like above Reggie
and just the player themselves. And then Steph actually combined
everyone into one. Someone who can shoot off the dribble,

(32:13):
fast break, shooting, off the screen, shooting, his ability to
just put them all in one.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
That's what Steph Curry is.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
How bothered are you that Richard Jefferson went thirteenth in
the draft and you went thirty first.

Speaker 13 (32:25):
Oh, not gonna lie, ah every time I see his
face on my ah because it's the one thing he
can always bring up that actually gets to me, right,
you know, me being an All Star All NBA getting
paid more than him.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Something about the draft where he was he was the
fourth best player on our team.

Speaker 15 (32:49):
Like from his freshman year to his junior year, he
didn't improve in nothing, right, eleven points freshman year, eleven
points sophomore year, eleven points in junior year. But it
really did open up my eye to understand what the
next level is. Right, it's not about your college performance,

(33:13):
it's about your upside. And then when you step back
out of our team, he had the best upside.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Right.

Speaker 13 (33:20):
You know, you're talking about a six seven six eight
small forward, shooting guard, today's power forward, today's center who
can run, jump, defend, put the ball in the basket
if need be. That's that's who you're gonna go with
every single time he.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Looks like he was a star player when you see
him on TV. Yes, yes, Like he was.

Speaker 13 (33:41):
A very very good mixture of if you need me
to dominate, I can, or I can be your second option,
your third option.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
I can be your bridge player. Right. So he was
like the perfect guy that.

Speaker 13 (33:58):
If you do not know what to pick, you're safe
picking him because he can fill in a lot of void.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm just saying watching him on ESPN, he the older
he gets, the better he was like, he looks like
he used to be a first team All NBA guy.
No right where he.

Speaker 13 (34:14):
And he Yeah, he got the look and he's like,
you know, if he said, you know, I used to
have a you know, twenty five, you can believe it
just by looking at it.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
He's Senator Jefferson is who he looks like. He looks
like he could, you know, run for political office.

Speaker 13 (34:29):
Listen, we had the best personalities on that team.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I mean, Luke Walton was with us.

Speaker 13 (34:34):
So we had some some guys that you know that
really pushed a button and it's it's no there's no
mistake that we're both in the same field.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Hey, congrats on the success of the show. Always great
to catch up with you. Thank you, Gil, thank you.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
That's a Gill's Arena podcast, and uh it's an underdog's
hit show. They went over one million subscribers. Stream it
Monday through Thursday on YouTube. Also available on Spotify, Apple,
or wherever you get your podcast. He's great at telling stories,
love them. Take a break, Last call for phone calls?
What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Last Call for phone calls, What we learn? What's in
store tomorrow. Todd mcshae, formerly of The Mothership, NFL Draft Analyst,
on The Todd McShay Show, talking about what the Titans
are going to do with the number one overall pick.

Speaker 16 (35:37):
It's not a coincidence that Russell Wilson was signed within hours,
not days. Hours, that they're all there in South Florida
for the workout for Kim Warton and for Miami's product.
It means that they know that the Tennessee Titans aren't
moving out of that number one spot.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, I didn't think they were. I think they're committed.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
You should be listening anyway to all offers. You're the Titans.
It feels like the Will Levis era didn't last that long,
but I guess you'll keep him as a backup quarterback
to cam Ward. H Baker and Bozeman is back. That's
Baker and Bozeman is back. Hi Baker, that's right.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Not good morning, Danny. So best of the weekend is
the start that my Yankees have gotten off to. I
recognize it a darn long season, but this is an
encouraging start. But my worst of the weekend is more important.
My worst of the weekend is any Astros fan that
could possibly be crying foul about the fairness of using
torpedo bats by the Yankees. I don't know who I'm
talking about, Fritzy, come.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
On, thank you, Baker? Yeah, you of all people shouldn't
be complaining about what the Yankees are doing time.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I just don't like the whole back thing for any team.

Speaker 13 (36:49):
This is very weird looking bat, and even with the
diameter and it's within the specifications to something seems questionable there.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't know if you really railed on the Astros
when they were using a garbage can, stealing signs.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
There was definitely some stuff there that would make your
raise an eyebrow.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
It was a proven cheating scandal that won them a
World Series.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
Yes, still immediately bought a twenty seventeen shows Champions.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Fresh in Milwaukee, Hi Fresh, Welcome back?

Speaker 14 (37:16):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (37:17):
VP?

Speaker 14 (37:18):
And Dan Nett? First of all, I'd like to give
a shout out to Gilbert Arenas with one of the
greatest nicknames ever, Agent zero. But the question is, even
though we know he brought him small gun with big
bullets to the locker room, does Gilbert have a chance
to go to the Hall of Fame. We know he
was a great scorer.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I don't think so. I think he was a three
time All Star. He could have been. He could have
been great, all time great because he could score. He's
score on anybody. Yeah, Mark, I.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
Think for Gilbert, if you and me maybe five or
six All Star Games, he'd have a much better better chance.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
Dereck Rose is different. He's got three All Star Games,
but he's got an MVP. If you had an MVP,
it'd be different.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
And he got injured, got injured as well. Dave in Bridgeport,
Hi Dave, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 17 (38:10):
First time a long time, five six, one sixty and
things that are being banned by the NFL.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
It's start.

Speaker 17 (38:19):
Some of them started back in the eight two thousands.
I believe it was Loron lanjury for the Redskins. He
did the aeropol and shot it in the air, and
they thought that was defaming and banned them and gave
him a fifteen yard personal file.

Speaker 14 (38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I didn't know about this CD LAMB celebration and that
it had gang overtones undertones, but they have outlawed that
this day in sports history, Paul.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Got a couple for you. Nineteen o six, the International
Athletic Association became the NCAA.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, what a run.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
Nineteen thirty one, New Rockney of Notre Dame died in
a plane crash in Kansas. Nineteen sixty eight. Saddle chose
the nickname Pilots for the new A baseball franchise. Martina
Hengis at sixteen, number one player of the world, youngest
ever in ninety seven and in nineteen ninety eight. The
Tampa Bay Devil Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks debuted in Major
League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Nineteen ninety eight, Milwaukee became the first team since the
beginning of the American League in nineteen oh one just
switch leagues, the Brewers. They went to the National League
after that. I remember watching this fight Muhammad Ali suffered
a broken jaw split decision, lost to Ken Norton twelve

(39:33):
rounds in nineteen seventy three. Final results of the Pole
Question Seaton O Connor.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, we got a few of them. Let's see the
most recent. The NFL wants to change the tush push
because of jealousy. That's at sixty percent of the vote.
Player safety just a paltry six percent.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, year, there's safety.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't even know if paultry is the right word there,
but it seemed to.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Fit right now.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
The final four is it's the best four teams. Not
as much disappointing. Only twenty three percent of the audience
find it disappointment.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, it feels like there's not enough madness or chaos
there that we've come to expect. And I get it,
but I do think this is start of the start
of a pattern where these big time schools are going
to pick off players to prevent the mid majors from
having these Cinderella stories. It's really storious.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
And the thing that's got toied up in arms today.
Torpedo bets they look illegal, should be illegal, or anyone
can use them?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
No big deal?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Right now, anyone can use them. No big deal is
up to seventy percent of the audience.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
That Todd ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Jim pass Jim Jeff Passon of the Mothership, I almost
said Jim Paxson, who went to the University of Dayton,
he might even have an opinion on this. Jeff Passing
from the Mothership will stop by, and the popular host
with march madness, Adam Lefko will join us as well.
Let's go around the room, Todd, what did you learn today?

Speaker 13 (40:55):
Gilbertarina says there were twenty two misscalls in the two
thousand and one national title game, lost to Duke.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
But who's going Seaton?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
What did you learn today?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Richard Jefferson has something he can get under Gilbert Arenas's skin.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes, Marvin, what did you learn today?

Speaker 8 (41:08):
Gilbert said, Jordan's drafted Honda's but expected bugattis Paul?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
What did you learn? Shire still has his jumper? Had
What did I learn?

Speaker 13 (41:16):
John Shire believes you have to boost a player's confidence,
but sometimes you got to hit him with the truth,
right between the.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Eyes, hit him with the hind Have a great day, everybody.
We look forward to doing this tomorrow for Fritzie Seat
and Marv Paula yours truly. We'll talk to you on Tuesday.
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