June 2, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan talks to SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey about the current state of college athletics. And DP shares some amazing stats for Reds phenom, Elly De La Cruz.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greg Zankee, SEC Commissioner kind of enough to join us.
It's been kind of busy here in the off season.
Never stops for you. Recap what happened last week, give
me the cliff notes version.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Spent a lot of time in overly air conditioned meeting
rooms in western Florida with athletics directors, head coaches, football, men's,
women's basketball, and our presidence and chancellors. Talked about our
football schedule, the college Football Playoff, potential settlement of a
set of lawsuits that would introduce a revenue sharing model
(00:38):
to college sports, and we talked about any other number
of issues like our softball tournament location that are probably
more mundane than you want to jump into on a
Monday morning, But happy to talk about softball and gymnastics
championships locations for the conference if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, that's why I wanted to have you on. But
let's get some of these ancillary things out of the way.
That's fair, Okay. Let me start with basketball and then
we'll get to football. The discussions of seventy two, seventy
six teams, any discussion from the SEC portion of this.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I introduced the issue to our men's basketball coaches, which
I think we've talked about with that group before. I
would guess Dan, given the other issues we have on
our plate, that that conversation maybe lasted five minutes. My
points to them were, this is still a work in progress.
I didn't know that there was going to be kind
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of a press gathering. This is not a criticism. Charlie
Baker spoke about tournament expanse I think the day after
our basketball coaches gathered. I mentioned it to our wins
basketball coaches as well. Briefly, didn't really go anywhere, and
so my introduction was, I just want you to be aware,
probably towards the end of the month this will come up.
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I said. My view is, I think we should be
exploring tournament expansion. Whether or not it happens is actually
another point of evaluation. So have the conversation, deep dive
figure out if it works practically competitively economically. I think
the one issue for us is if it is expanded.
Let's pick the number of seventy six and I'll do
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quick math for you. So fifty two of the seventy
six teams would be like in that traditional first round,
the other twenty four would play in twelve games. The
twelve winners meet up with the fifty two. There's or
sixty fourteen bracket. Right. That's like from my intermural director
days at you to the cop. That's how I know
how brackets work. I'm really interested and we're interested in
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a league. Is who fills those twelve games those other
twenty four teams? The kind of Dayton model, if you will,
which is a men's basketball side is it's a combination
of the lowest aqs, the lowest rated aqs kind of
by placement of the committee, then the last at large
teams in and I kind of pivot to look look
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to North Carolina State last year eleven seed. They were
in AQ, but they went to the final four. And
it's just kind of an indication that competitively, those top
fifty or so teams, you know, things fall right, injuries,
heel can make really good runs. So I'm not one
who thinks we should just follow the Dayton model automatically
have expanded if expansion takes place. So that was my
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reference to our.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Coaches when our decisions made or voted on for expansion
for the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, that's a good question. Buye agreement that the outer
boundary is November thirty, December one of this year for
the twenty six playoff. Now keep in mind, when we
went to twelve teams, the board said that'll be the
format for twenty twenty six. Let's start early if we can,
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which we obviously did did overall in a successful way.
But what was introduced immediately is let's go through these
two years in conduct an evaluation. So we're in that
evaluation standpoint. A lot of talk about really fourteen or sixteen.
I think twelve is known as as kind of a
foundation point, but the conversation is about fourteen or sixteen.
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And then how our team selected or placed into whatever
size bracket exists is the more the headline question. Okay,
but what model do you like? Well, I've been one
who said, over time, I'd give no allocation. So this
whole five seven thing that exists now, I just make
it the twelve best teams, and I was clear on that. Now,
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when we get into rooms, we make political compromises, if
you will, small p not like Congress political compromises, but
to achieve an outcome.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But the sides on the top twelve teams selection committee.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but I here's what I think. I think we've not.
We spent so much time expanding and working through our
own little side arguments about teams and oh, we can't
do this, we need this, you got to protect this
bowl game or that bowl game. We never went back
to the essence of decision making, which is how our
team selected. As everyone relocated over the last four or
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five years, do the analyses that existed and worked for
the fourteen playoff in twenty fourteen still have the same
relevance and we're behind that curve in my opinion. That's
why other ideas are introduced and considered, and we've looked
at ideas. You know, this allocation of it's called automatic bids.
That's that's such a harsh term. I think allocations is
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one where I like that word because we've already we
already allocated. And look at last year we had two
teams not in the top four. They get to move
up because of the political compromise. We have a team
outside the twelve that moves in, and then the teams
that are displaced look around and say, hey, wait a second,
that doesn't make any sense any longer. That introduces the
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questions around should that model continue or should that allocation
model expand where other teams are brought in.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Talking to Greg Sankie, SEC Commissioner, we've talked about this before.
You know, given the scheduling and hotel rooms and travel
of receding after the first round of games, can is
that on the table at all anymore?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well, not really receding, because almost what a week and
a half ago for the twenty five season, the college
Football Playoff Management Committee, which is the commissioners and the
Notre Dame Athletic Director, agreed to just go to straight
seating by ranking, So the movement of teams outside the
top four into the top four that won't happen in
twenty twenty five. You're going to get what you earn.
(06:54):
Same for home games. We've not gone back into the
receiving question. And Dan, you go back to June of
twenty one, which was like ancient history in college sports,
when the twelve team model was introduced, and we went
back through this about a month ago with everybody involved
on that management committee. One of the questions was should
we be in receding. We never really got back to
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that because you remember the SEC had this little expansion
to sixteen, great disruption in the forest. Then we had
twenty two in expansion of the big ten. So he
waited around for a year, and now we've been in
hurry up mode since. So we haven't talked so much
about receding as we did just about honoring the rankings
in the bracket.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Help me understand the report on Cooper Flag as he
made close to thirty million dollars is one year at Duke,
that's nil. Help me understand as the athlete moves forward
of the salaries and nil and any restrictions, any compromises
that will be there for these that's marquee athletes, let's
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call them.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Without commenting on the Cooper Flag story, I haven't seen that,
and nobody's sending me financial documents to verify. As you
can imagine in this environment, a couple points One is
this settlement that's positioned in a set of lawsuits has
great impact on the answer to your question if the
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settlement is approved for the first time at the college level,
and really quite innovative in the sports realm, would be
the process for overseeing third party name, image and likeness
to establish there's an appropriate range of compensation and fair
market excuse me, in real business purposes fulfill around name
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image and likeness deals. That's not like novel. It just
hasn't existed as we've gone on this state by state
exploration of kind of reducing any regulatory system for college sports.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Nil.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I think that's a step, and that's one component
third party name image and likeness. The second is what
I think will be kind of a name image and
likeness activity within a revenue sharing model where athletic programs
are providing that payment directly to student athletes. That can
be a better system. There has to be a commitment
to make it work. And I still am one who
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thinks that notion of having fifty different state laws governing
is highly problematic. You're not going to have college World Series.
You can't run Final fours and national championships that way.
You run something more like high school championships where every
state kind of walls off it's and establishes its own rules.
And I think that has to be understood as a
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significant point of concern. That's why the return of national
standards in the congressional conversation still has meaning.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What would stop me as a businessman. If I wanted
the top quarterback in college football to come to Alabama
and I want to give him twenty five million dollars
a year.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Right now, there hasn't been a lot. This is the
States migrate away from any oversight of their own laws
or any regulation. If the settlement is approved, I go
back to that third party oversight, and it would depend
on your classification. Assuming you have some affiliation, you've provided
money donations to the university involved. You then kick into
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this third party in aisle oversight and the ability for
somebody to be deemed at an appropriate real business purpose
and range of compensation level would be involved. And if
it doesn't, there'll be an opportunity to adjust your offer.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I would love for conferences or maybe there's somebody who
can be like the NFL has somebody who does this
scheduling like I would love. You know, we might lose
Notre Dame in USC like I'm I don't know, maybe
I'm the get off my line, the old guy, but
you know, can you come up with scheduling that we
don't losexas versus Oklahoma or whatever? Oklahoma state? Oklahoma? I
(11:03):
should say, I got to want to lose these rights.
We don't have many left, and I don't know if
college football could ever have a schedule overseer. So we
do have marquee matchups. This is this is entertainment, it's
TV non conference. You know, what do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think a couple things. Let's go back to the
college football playoffs. So I've been the recipient of plenty
kind of side comments about good of the game, whatever
that means. And when programs like when wake Forest notifies
Old Miss the day before their first game of a
home and home series that we're not playing the one
back in Oxford, that's a problem. When when Nebraska cancels
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an agreement to play Tennessee home and home and sites
and I'm not criticizing their athletic director, this is a reality.
Cites the college football playoff selection process as a fundamental
reason why we have to understand college football playoffs selection
process is threatening the regular season, not supporting it. Remember
all those conversations people had about, hey, if you expand
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the playoff, you're going to diminish the regular season. I
think there is something to that. I just think everybody
missed that the regular season was being changed by the
college football playoff. So point one is whether people agree
or not. I think the first issue that has to
be addressed is the selection criteria incentivizing playing these highly competitive,
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highly desired games, whether that's non conference or conference. That's one.
The second is, I think conference is coming together to
facilitate this scheduling is important, and I'll just take ourselves.
We facilitate four end of year non conference games last
week of the season. We've had schools actually leave our
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league and come back, and we facilitated those games when
when they've wanted to play. So I think from my perspective,
I'm happy for a coordinated conversation to try to get
scheduling right. But I do think you have to go
back to at the forefront of everyone's mind is how
decisions about the postseason are going to be made. And
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that's the point I've made more subtly than of late
and more directly in the most recent comments, because I
do think that leads the agenda of what must be
addressed in college football scheduling is how this postseason selection
guides people's thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Give me the one thing that keeps you up at
night that has to do with where we're where we
are or where we're headed.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
If I could, if I like, if I could have
one thing to keep me up at night, I'd sleep
like a baby. Again, so let's just stipulate that I would.
I would be out like a light. I wake up
every day on issues around the relationship with our student athletes,
and that's both the relationship. I'm concerned about the lifelong impact,
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about the amount of money that flows into somebody's life
when the emotional maturity may not be there. You know,
how do you go take a fifty thousand dollars entry
level job and we run these ads that ninety eight
percent of the people on the athletic fields or courts
or tracks are going pro in something else, and you've
had your own personal economics or value inflated. How do
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you learn those lifelong lessons? I think the transfer environment
is linked to that, perhaps the inability to walk through
some of the difficult moments in life. Hey, it's not
every transfer is a problematic transfer. And I speak as
somebody who transferred a couple of times. You're trying to
figure it out, especially if you're a first generation college student,
like you don't have somebody pulling you aside and helping
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you understand, Hey, maybe if you stick it out, build
your legacy in one place, receive some economic benefit, have
educational and relational continuity, come out as a more prepared
adult for what's next in life. The combination of those
factor the economic relationship, the transfer decisions, and then the
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lifelong impacts that come from that we're not going to
know for a while. Those are at the top of
what keeps me up at night.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I propose this well to myself, but on my show
probably ten years ago, that if you have players who
are coming to school because they think they're going to
be a professional athlete, can you have some kind of
curriculum that helps them with investing, balancing a checkbook, real estate,
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think taxes, things that have to do that are you know,
the history of Mesopotamia. While I took the course hasn't
helped me today. But if you're taking something that does
prepare you, and college is supposed to prepare you. If
I go to college and we have, you know, some
kind of symbiotic relationship of I'm coming to use you,
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you're using me. I don't have any interesting staying in school,
but can you help them with things that will help
them in what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
A few points like I studied the Mesopotamian thing and
had the same reaction. Then I went to the British
Museum and there's a section on Mesopotamia and I'm like, hey,
I read about this when I was fourteen or something
like that. That's one second. I think if it's if
it's only in life, do what you want and not
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challenge you to broaden your horizons, I think we lose
an opportunity to help young people grow. So I would
never suggest we just walk away from a broad educational experience. Third, sure,
could we pivot and there are plenty of electives, There
are plenty of ways to learn. But our athletics departments
provide pretty deep financial literacy programs. In fact, I've debated
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with current student athletes like should I not pay taxes
right now on my earnings and wait and paint at
the end of the year and then going to quarterly
tax payments for kind of ten ninety nine work so
that I can invest that money. I'm talking about nineteen
and twenty year olds in business classes and taking financial
literacy classes through their athletics department. It's not the lack
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of provision of education, information and contexts that people involved
have to receive that whether it's Mesopotamia, real estate deals,
or how to balance your checkbook, it's not just that
the educational opportunity and the information is provided. They have
a responsibility to understand. They have to consume that information,
internalize it music. And I would say too for the
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people around the student athlete, for the young person involved
in college athletics. You know, the notion that what's happening
around nil payments just continues all the way through life,
I think can be kind of a perceived pot of
gold at the end of a rainbow, that it's just
going to continue. And I think we all know that
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hard work, dedication, perce taking a risk here and there,
betting on yourself, those are the things through the next
forty years of life that sets you up for success,
not that defined area between you know, eighteen and twenty two.
In fact, there's a John Grisham novel called Bleachers about
a high school football player. And I'll paraphrase one of
the lines in this novel and hey, it's a novel,
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but it's pretty wise, which is the worst thing that
can happen to somebody is that become the biggest deal
ever when they're eighteen or nineteen years old, because there's
a whole lifetime ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Big twelve ACC commissioners on your Christmas card list, you guys.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So yeah, hey, disagreements. Finally, one of my great conversations
a oneth Togo. Roy Kramer, who was SEC Commissioner number six,
was telling me stories about going to me with Jim
Delaney and Tom Hansen, who was the PAC twelve commissioner,
and like he said, we walk out of that room
and we hated each other, and then we went home,
we got to work and figured it out. I think
disagreement's absolutely fine. It makes us better. And I think
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for the fact that we comment about each other, we
have a conversation as the four us tomorrow and yeah,
we rub each other all from time or time, but
we do have a responsibility to work together, and I
think each each of us understands that responsibility.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Play nice, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay, we'll go to the sandbox and see what we
can do.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And it's Greg Sanky, SEC Commissioner. We'll take a break.
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
I don't think Greg Sanke, the SEC commissioner, is all
in favor of the automatic qualifiers. I think he wants
the twelve best college football teams to be in the playoffs,
and of course they're for selfish reasons, because he doesn't
want a limit on the number of teams the SEC
can sent to the playoffs. Do I think they're going
to go to fourteen, No, I think they'll go to sixteen.
(20:48):
The question is will it be for twenty twenty six?
Are they going to expand March Madness from sixty eight
to seventy two to seventy six? I think they will
expand to seventy two, maybe seventy six. And all it
means is, you know the Tuesdays and Wednesdays before the
tournament really starts, you know, when you start to fill
out your brackets, like those games count, not the first
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four in. They'll just add more games to those Tuesdays
and Wednesdays, those more play in games. Uh, And I'm
fine with that. We've already gotten to this point. I
just don't want it to get to ninety six. Jim
Beyheim brought up ninety six, and I go, Jim, I
don't think so ninety six. Like have a little exclusivity
(21:34):
with this. Let me see a couple of by the way,
I believe on this date in twenty seventeen, palk Off
palk Off, Really, yeah, falk Off, was it twenty sixteen? Yeah,
nine years ago, and Fritzy you still I'm in trouble
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with the run you are?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You are?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Look I understand Eminem was great at stretching a word
and made it fit, so it did rhyme, but yours
fork Off. Palk Off said of pork Off, like.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
It's almost an auditory disorder of some story.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well you I didn't think you were hearing correctly because
you I mean, it was just so weird that you
kept going, no, don't you get it? And I'm going, no,
you don't get it.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
I think my problem is it dof been hearing and listening.
I could hear stuff, but listen.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
A whole the time.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Wow, what are we doing for the big ten year anniversary?
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how you celebrate
that next June.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Some restaurant with rhyming words. They have rhyming restaurants.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I don't know, walk off a rhyme time at time,
but they didn't. They didn't rhyme. That's the thing, walk
it's a work in progress. When you said palk off
for pork.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah, I was trying to fit it into the triangle,
into the little circular box thing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, square pack.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:05):
The crazy part about that segment too, is we've aired
you know, we've aired like the same like say, like
sixty seconds of it. Yeah, a few times it actually
goes on for like seven minutes or something. The whole discussion,
it's a way more involved discussion with dozens of examples
of this going wrong.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Marvin, how about we post that on the newsletter social media.
We'll put that out.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
And when you're stubborn and you don't want to accept
that you're wrong and you just kind of go all
in on it and it continues to just take a
deeper hole type of time.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Uh, let me see Toby in California. Hi, Toby, thanks
for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Hey, Dan, I wanted to give you a best of
the weekend Best of the weekend is on Friday night,
I got to umpire the Savannah Bananas at Angels Stadium
and if you have a chance to go, highly recommended.
Most fun I've ever had on a baseball field. And
then I wanted to talk to you about a few
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months ago you talked about connections with your fans, and
I feel like I have a connection with the show
more than anyone. With my kids, I do best and
worst every single day, and then I ask him every
single day what they learned today. And then every time
I pick up my daughters from school because I'm I'm
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usually a podcast listener, they say, do we get a
listen to podcasts again of Dan Patrick? And they know
all the stat of the day songs.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Love your show.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Love you guys are more than just a sports show.
You guys are a connection show. And I appreciate all
that you do for us.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Thank you, Toby. And one other thing that you should
always ask your children who has it better than we do?
And then you want them to say nobody, Bob and Montana, Hi, Bob,
we got your video. Bob took a pie to the
face he thought we were winning the Sports Emmy. And Bob,
thank you for Uh, I guess paying up your bet.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Hey, Hey, no problem there, DP, Hey, well you stole
half my thunder there. I was going to call and
wish you guys a happy ninth anniversary for Sausage Off Day.
But that's fine.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Speaking of thunder, I'll move right into my second topic,
in the spirit of in the spirit of me losing
to the Miami losing the Miami Heat, losing to the
Nuggets two years ago, and Marvin took me up on
a pie to the face bent, then I'll just take
the Pacers straight up right now against OKAC. I'm hoping
Marvin will take me up again, but if he doesn't
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want to, one of the other guys are yourself is
fine as well?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All right, Bob, Marvin will take you up on that,
Marvin Marvin, all right, thank you, Bob. Paul in Indiana,
Hi Paul, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Oh Dan? Thanks for taking my call six seventy oh.
Then a couple of years ago. If this line Don
is fit perfectly again, that's what I'd like to say.
I need to Payers are going to win because I
could kill it in my plums. They turned a nice
pace of blue, a sque time to take them to
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the farmers market, which is in big final boom many.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thank you, Paul, congratulations. Call back in a couple of weeks.
Oh no, let me know how your plums are doing.
Dave in Denver, Hi, Dave, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (26:22):
What up?
Speaker 10 (26:22):
VP?
Speaker 13 (26:23):
Six foot one seventy five? So this might be the
first time in DP show history that the Seattle Manners
are going to get two best of the weekends. The
first one is Cole Young getting called up and getting
a walk off in the bottom of the eleventh, and
then the second one is kyl Rawley in this twenty
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third deer, which is typer first in the MLB.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I know, go figure, the guy who has more home
runs than Judge and Shoe Autani is cal Rawleig And
if you go back since the start of the twenty
twenty three season, he's hit eleven go ahead home runs
in the seventh inning or later. That's four more than
any other player over that span. Who how stand of
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the day?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Stand of a day? Stant out a day, stant.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Of a day.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is the Stanle of the Day, brought to you
by Penine America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Shows. Zach and Knoxville. Welcome back, Zach. What's on
your mind?
Speaker 14 (27:28):
ADB, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I hate to do this.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
I didn't know it was going to be with Marvin,
but I do agree with the Andrew McCutcheon take. But
I was actually calling for a pie to the face
for the Facers to win straight up. So does Marvin
wanted Michael d lay down?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Do you want to double down there? Okay, Thunder iron Jack? Yeah. Wait,
so you're saying Andrew McCutcheon's in the Hall of very good,
all of very good, correct? I know you want an MVP,
but I think we're being a little too lenient with
very good. Yes, Paul, I have Andrew mccutchen's career. He
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came out hot five All Star games from age twenty
four to twenty eight, and then since the age of
twenty eight, he has not made an All Star Game
or been a top ten MVP candidate. He was cruising
his first seven years. How many hits does he have?
Speaker 15 (28:25):
I've got twenty two hundred, the two seventy three hitter. Yeah, okay,
he's not on the cusp of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He's the Hall of Good, which is in a different location. Yes,
it is, Marvin.
Speaker 16 (28:40):
So the Hall of Very Good is for guys like
Dale Murphy and Steve Garvey, guys that get seventy three
percent of the votes at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Yeah, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Would you put Andrew McCutchen in with Dale Murphy? No? Okay,
Steve Garvey.
Speaker 16 (28:59):
No, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We solved it. It's done, Yes, Tom, I was just.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Looking at the list.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Kirk Gibson erics, Tim Salmon never made an All Star team,
Blie Levin, Ferjie Jenkins, Robin yet. Uh actually, Bli Levan
and Fergie only two, Robin Young three.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
So what does that affect your decision on the cutching
As far as five.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
All Star Robin Young had three thousand hits, That is true.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
If you take the three thousand hits away.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Anyway, all Star teams with three thousand.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Then he well maybe he was a shortstop and Cal
Ripken always made it, and then he was a center fielder,
which you know, if he had those hits all in
one season, definitely, if you take away three thousand he hits,
he has none even accomplished it. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 16 (29:48):
But Joe Montana and Joe Namath are in the same
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, but I've said Joe name, it's not a Hall
of Famer, but they're in though I know, but I'm saying,
as much as I love Joe, he doesn't have Hall
of Fame credentials. He's in because of his name and
he won maybe the biggest game in NFL history.
Speaker 16 (30:05):
And Andrew mccutchin's in because of the work he did.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
He's just a good baseball player. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 16 (30:11):
So just Hall of Good.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He's yeah, he's a Hall of Good. I think we
got we gotta have boundaries here, and it just feels
like everybody's going to if you're not a Hall of Famer,
you're in the Hall of very Good.
Speaker 16 (30:22):
Yes, mar Oh, I didn't say that. I think the
five All Star Games, in an MVP Award, another top
three MVP finish got him in the Hall of Very Good.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But that's just me, Okay, that's you, I know, all right.
I mean, nobody is sticking up for Andrew McCutcheon today,
but you are. And you know, I don't know if
anybody else in America is doing this segment. Probably the
reason why once again. We don't win sports emmis. All right,
let me take a break. When we come back. Got
a quick NFL game, more phone calls as well. We're
(30:50):
back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
Raven's running back Derrick Henry on the program tomorrow. Got
a new contract extension. You can't have an old contract extension,
right because whenever you hear any you got a new
contract extension. Isn't it just a contract extension. I don't
know if I need new in there.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
And his quarterback and coach have Tier one pressure. As
we discussed this.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
They do.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
They got a lot of pressure on them in Baltimore.
All right, Time for a quick NFL game and then
I have some amazing stats for you coming up. All right,
So Paulie, quick NFL gang. Got some theme music here,
here we go, all right.
Speaker 15 (31:41):
The Madden twenty six cover has been announced by EA Sports.
Two part question, who is on the cover and what
is the picture?
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Specifically?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Stefan Diggs on the.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
O two soon that's snarky, respect.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Jaydon Daniels that's a good one.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
He is not on the cover should have been. That's good.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It was on the cover of the year before. Do
we know that?
Speaker 15 (32:13):
No?
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Okay, I want to hint.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
The cover picture is a very specific play from last.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Season, very specific, very.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh uh, the push push Jalen Hurts. Now you're getting
closer that backwards leap.
Speaker 15 (32:40):
Saquon Barkley is on the cover of Madden twenty twenty
six and he's mid.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Air that spinning Joan Gang.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Wow, it's a great cover.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Had did anybody ask him if he had practiced that
before or done that in a game before. We didn't
have him on after that, but I'd like to ask
him that if he ever did that before in a game. Okay,
this day in sports history, Okay, here's some numbers for you.
This player is in his third season. He's already become
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the first baseball player since nineteen hundred to have eighty
extra base hits, eighty stolen bases, and at least eighty
walks in his first two hundred games. He's the first
player to have over one hundred stolen bases in thirty
home runs in his first two seasons, first player ever
he also, well, that'll give it away, Give it away,
(33:36):
give it away. Now, in three hundred and eight career games,
he has struck out four hundred and thirty four times,
which matches Tony Gwinn's career strikeout total. Tony played in
four hundred and forty games, so over two thousand more games,
and they struck out the same number of times. Marvin,
Who am I talking about? Ellie delacrue la Cruz? Is correct, amundo,
(34:02):
because I was gonna say. He also holds the record,
which I didn't know they had records the fastest throw
from shortstop to first base. Any they want to guess
what Ellie Dela Cruz did with one throw from shortstop
to first base, Marvin, I'll go back to you.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
One hundred and eight miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm gonna give it to you. It's one oh six
point nine on your FM dial. One hundred and six
miles an hour. Ellie Dela Cruz, Well the first basel ouch,
that's gonna hurt. Let me see what I have here?
Uh Steven Ohio, Hi, Steve, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oregon, Oregon? Steve?
Speaker 17 (34:46):
Oh hey, jan Yeah, this is me six foot one. Uh,
that's the weekend is Oregon State Beavers lost first game
on Friday yesterday, won two games by a combined score
of thirty four to four, with tree runs in one inning,
all on suicide squeezes. Okay, so they're playing in the
(35:07):
final against us USC today in the regional final.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
All right, sound a little more excited, Steve, sound librarian,
little little dead. Yeah, it could have been. It could
have been in a library there. Just really excited.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
I just want to I can't wait for it.
Speaker 15 (35:24):
This day in sports history, Paul George Herman Babe Ruth
announced his retirement.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Raid and against Farmers nineteen elect This is a sad one.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Nineteen forty one. Lou Garrig died in New York.
Speaker 15 (35:39):
And let's see, oh, Randy Johnson achieved the first no
hitter in Seattle Mariner history nineteen ninety and this guy
was a thing. Nineteen ninety five, Hideo Nomo got his
first major league victory.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He was a thing, wasn't it. Dennis Leary, who does
the Lou Garrig joke? Oh no, Like, how did you
not see it coming? It's got your name written all
over louke Gerric, Yeah, I think it was Dennis Leary,
Sir uh Ken Griffey Junior. He was made his debut
in nineteen eighty seven and uh oh this was the
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anniversary twenty ten. Armando Galla Raga lost his bid for
a perfect game two ounce in the ninth. Oh no,
Jim is the worst. Jim Joyce, Oh boy? And I
think there was a thirty for thirty called the Imperfect Game.
Great title. Yeah, that one that was a bummer.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
I had some Joyce words for Jim after making that
big hmm. How anythink he did to that? It's hard
to ask me, so I didn't show it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
DoD you had yea minus. No, don you had fifteen
years to give me a line, fifteen years to get
ready for that moment.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
Joyce words for Jim. Sticking with that one, this.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Is like choice words. Yeah, no, Jim Joyce and that
rhymes that thing that rhyme Joyce and choice. How would
you rate yourself today? What kind of grade would you
give you? Well? Markley and Greg sank those are good guests.
The only reason to get in the yes, Yes, I
think I would say it's just c.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
And Barkley loves you so that he kind of books
himself book a quick call and he says yes.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And Sankie, you know, loves the show, so maybe be
miney to see plus No, I'm gonna give you a
ce greater Yes I am, Yes, I am plus yeah
and no no.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
C plus dress up to sea a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
But you know, just so people know, it's not just
the guest you book, it's everything else that you provide.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
And it's only Monday, so we can only hopefully go
up from here. We've got another four days before the
next weekend to improve. You want to look at that one?
Popped it back to you in the studio.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay, thank you, tod Well. Derek Henry's on the show tomorrow.
This is a good relationship with the show. The show
kind of books itself. Really good to think about it.
Do I need you?
Speaker 7 (37:57):
I don't think so what do I do here? I've
read a sports entertise, what I try to crack a couple?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But I like you for all the other things. It's
not just the booking. It's like, you know, everything else
that you provide.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
With the show.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
That's kind of your to say yes for.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
A day where you were the Sea C minus tomorrow.
It's only Monday.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I'm just getting stony.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Got to see my grandson on Sunday. Yeah, little guy,
little guy. Yeah. You know when they're only a couple
of days old and they're trying to open their eyes,
you know. I mean I've had that feeling before, and
hold their head. I know they're.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
Yeah, one of the cheeks.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It was great. But you know, my son, I already
know it all when it comes to child rearing. You know,
he's been a parent for a little over two years
and he's telling my wife and you guys got a
hold hold his head. I'm like, Jack, we we've done
this before. You turned out. Okay, right, I.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Thought, how you do the diaper? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (38:57):
How hard did you cry?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I didn't cry yesterday. I did not When when he
sent me the picture, I was a mess.
Speaker 16 (39:06):
It was amazing being there when your first grandchild was born.
We were all sitting at dinner in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I went outside. I said, I can't, I can't let
all these people to table see me bawling. And then
I go they've all seen me crying. That was great,
great moment. That's what we learned. I didn't cry yesterday.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greg Zankee, SEC Commissioner kind of enough to join us.
It's been kind of busy here in the off season.
Never stops for you. Recap what happened last week, give
me the cliff notes version.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Spent a lot of time in overly air conditioned meeting
rooms in western Florida with athletics directors, head coaches, football, men's,
women's basketball, and our presidence and chancellors. Talked about our
football schedule, the college Football Playoff, potential settlement of a
set of lawsuits that would introduce a revenue sharing model
(00:38):
to college sports, and we talked about any other number
of issues like our softball tournament location that are probably
more mundane than you want to jump into on a
Monday morning, But happy to talk about softball and gymnastics
championships locations for the conference if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, that's why I wanted to have you on. But
let's get some of these ancillary things out of the way.
That's fair, Okay. Let me start with basketball and then
we'll get to football. The discussions of seventy two, seventy
six teams, any discussion from the SEC portion of this.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I introduced the issue to our men's basketball coaches, which
I think we've talked about with that group before. I
would guess Dan, given the other issues we have on
our plate, that that conversation maybe lasted five minutes. My
points to them were, this is still a work in progress.
I didn't know that there was going to be kind
(01:36):
of a press gathering. This is not a criticism. Charlie
Baker spoke about tournament expanse I think the day after
our basketball coaches gathered. I mentioned it to our wins
basketball coaches as well. Briefly, didn't really go anywhere, and
so my introduction was, I just want you to be aware,
probably towards the end of the month this will come up.
(01:59):
I said. My view is, I think we should be
exploring tournament expansion. Whether or not it happens is actually
another point of evaluation. So have the conversation, deep dive
figure out if it works practically competitively economically. I think
the one issue for us is if it is expanded.
Let's pick the number of seventy six and I'll do
(02:21):
quick math for you. So fifty two of the seventy
six teams would be like in that traditional first round,
the other twenty four would play in twelve games. The
twelve winners meet up with the fifty two. There's or
sixty fourteen bracket. Right. That's like from my intermural director
days at you to the cop. That's how I know
how brackets work. I'm really interested and we're interested in
(02:43):
a league. Is who fills those twelve games those other
twenty four teams? The kind of Dayton model, if you will,
which is a men's basketball side is it's a combination
of the lowest aqs, the lowest rated aqs kind of
by placement of the committee, then the last at large
teams in and I kind of pivot to look look
(03:05):
to North Carolina State last year eleven seed. They were
in AQ, but they went to the final four. And
it's just kind of an indication that competitively, those top
fifty or so teams, you know, things fall right, injuries,
heel can make really good runs. So I'm not one
who thinks we should just follow the Dayton model automatically
have expanded if expansion takes place. So that was my
(03:28):
reference to our.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Coaches when our decisions made or voted on for expansion
for the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, that's a good question. Buye agreement that the outer
boundary is November thirty, December one of this year for
the twenty six playoff. Now keep in mind, when we
went to twelve teams, the board said that'll be the
format for twenty twenty six. Let's start early if we can,
(03:58):
which we obviously did did overall in a successful way.
But what was introduced immediately is let's go through these
two years in conduct an evaluation. So we're in that
evaluation standpoint. A lot of talk about really fourteen or sixteen.
I think twelve is known as as kind of a
foundation point, but the conversation is about fourteen or sixteen.
(04:21):
And then how our team selected or placed into whatever
size bracket exists is the more the headline question. Okay,
but what model do you like? Well, I've been one
who said, over time, I'd give no allocation. So this
whole five seven thing that exists now, I just make
it the twelve best teams, and I was clear on that. Now,
(04:44):
when we get into rooms, we make political compromises, if
you will, small p not like Congress political compromises, but
to achieve an outcome.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But the sides on the top twelve teams selection committee.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but I here's what I think. I think we've not.
We spent so much time expanding and working through our
own little side arguments about teams and oh, we can't
do this, we need this, you got to protect this
bowl game or that bowl game. We never went back
to the essence of decision making, which is how our
team selected. As everyone relocated over the last four or
(05:22):
five years, do the analyses that existed and worked for
the fourteen playoff in twenty fourteen still have the same
relevance and we're behind that curve in my opinion. That's
why other ideas are introduced and considered, and we've looked
at ideas. You know, this allocation of it's called automatic bids.
That's that's such a harsh term. I think allocations is
(05:46):
one where I like that word because we've already we
already allocated. And look at last year we had two
teams not in the top four. They get to move
up because of the political compromise. We have a team
outside the twelve that moves in, and then the teams
that are displaced look around and say, hey, wait a second,
that doesn't make any sense any longer. That introduces the
(06:07):
questions around should that model continue or should that allocation
model expand where other teams are brought in.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Talking to Greg Sankie, SEC Commissioner, we've talked about this before.
You know, given the scheduling and hotel rooms and travel
of receding after the first round of games, can is
that on the table at all anymore?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well, not really receding, because almost what a week and
a half ago for the twenty five season, the college
Football Playoff Management Committee, which is the commissioners and the
Notre Dame Athletic Director, agreed to just go to straight
seating by ranking, So the movement of teams outside the
top four into the top four that won't happen in
twenty twenty five. You're going to get what you earn.
(06:54):
Same for home games. We've not gone back into the
receiving question. And Dan, you go back to June of
twenty one, which was like ancient history in college sports,
when the twelve team model was introduced, and we went
back through this about a month ago with everybody involved
on that management committee. One of the questions was should
we be in receding. We never really got back to
(07:18):
that because you remember the SEC had this little expansion
to sixteen, great disruption in the forest. Then we had
twenty two in expansion of the big ten. So he
waited around for a year, and now we've been in
hurry up mode since. So we haven't talked so much
about receding as we did just about honoring the rankings
in the bracket.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Help me understand the report on Cooper Flag as he
made close to thirty million dollars is one year at Duke,
that's nil. Help me understand as the athlete moves forward
of the salaries and nil and any restrictions, any compromises
that will be there for these that's marquee athletes, let's
(08:01):
call them.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Without commenting on the Cooper Flag story, I haven't seen that,
and nobody's sending me financial documents to verify. As you
can imagine in this environment, a couple points One is
this settlement that's positioned in a set of lawsuits has
great impact on the answer to your question if the
(08:24):
settlement is approved for the first time at the college level,
and really quite innovative in the sports realm, would be
the process for overseeing third party name, image and likeness
to establish there's an appropriate range of compensation and fair
market excuse me, in real business purposes fulfill around name
(08:46):
image and likeness deals. That's not like novel. It just
hasn't existed as we've gone on this state by state
exploration of kind of reducing any regulatory system for college sports.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Nil.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I think that's a step, and that's one component
third party name image and likeness. The second is what
I think will be kind of a name image and
likeness activity within a revenue sharing model where athletic programs
are providing that payment directly to student athletes. That can
be a better system. There has to be a commitment
to make it work. And I still am one who
(09:21):
thinks that notion of having fifty different state laws governing
is highly problematic. You're not going to have college World Series.
You can't run Final fours and national championships that way.
You run something more like high school championships where every
state kind of walls off it's and establishes its own rules.
And I think that has to be understood as a
(09:41):
significant point of concern. That's why the return of national
standards in the congressional conversation still has meaning.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What would stop me as a businessman. If I wanted
the top quarterback in college football to come to Alabama
and I want to give him twenty five million dollars
a year.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Right now, there hasn't been a lot. This is the
States migrate away from any oversight of their own laws
or any regulation. If the settlement is approved, I go
back to that third party oversight, and it would depend
on your classification. Assuming you have some affiliation, you've provided
money donations to the university involved. You then kick into
(10:22):
this third party in aisle oversight and the ability for
somebody to be deemed at an appropriate real business purpose
and range of compensation level would be involved. And if
it doesn't, there'll be an opportunity to adjust your offer.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I would love for conferences or maybe there's somebody who
can be like the NFL has somebody who does this
scheduling like I would love. You know, we might lose
Notre Dame in USC like I'm I don't know, maybe
I'm the get off my line, the old guy, but
you know, can you come up with scheduling that we
don't losexas versus Oklahoma or whatever? Oklahoma state? Oklahoma? I
(11:03):
should say, I got to want to lose these rights.
We don't have many left, and I don't know if
college football could ever have a schedule overseer. So we
do have marquee matchups. This is this is entertainment, it's
TV non conference. You know, what do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think a couple things. Let's go back to the
college football playoffs. So I've been the recipient of plenty
kind of side comments about good of the game, whatever
that means. And when programs like when wake Forest notifies
Old Miss the day before their first game of a
home and home series that we're not playing the one
back in Oxford, that's a problem. When when Nebraska cancels
(11:46):
an agreement to play Tennessee home and home and sites
and I'm not criticizing their athletic director, this is a reality.
Cites the college football playoff selection process as a fundamental
reason why we have to understand college football playoffs selection
process is threatening the regular season, not supporting it. Remember
all those conversations people had about, hey, if you expand
(12:09):
the playoff, you're going to diminish the regular season. I
think there is something to that. I just think everybody
missed that the regular season was being changed by the
college football playoff. So point one is whether people agree
or not. I think the first issue that has to
be addressed is the selection criteria incentivizing playing these highly competitive,
(12:32):
highly desired games, whether that's non conference or conference. That's one.
The second is, I think conference is coming together to
facilitate this scheduling is important, and I'll just take ourselves.
We facilitate four end of year non conference games last
week of the season. We've had schools actually leave our
(12:55):
league and come back, and we facilitated those games when
when they've wanted to play. So I think from my perspective,
I'm happy for a coordinated conversation to try to get
scheduling right. But I do think you have to go
back to at the forefront of everyone's mind is how
decisions about the postseason are going to be made. And
(13:16):
that's the point I've made more subtly than of late
and more directly in the most recent comments, because I
do think that leads the agenda of what must be
addressed in college football scheduling is how this postseason selection
guides people's thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Give me the one thing that keeps you up at
night that has to do with where we're where we
are or where we're headed.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
If I could, if I like, if I could have
one thing to keep me up at night, I'd sleep
like a baby. Again, so let's just stipulate that I would.
I would be out like a light. I wake up
every day on issues around the relationship with our student athletes,
and that's both the relationship. I'm concerned about the lifelong impact,
(14:04):
about the amount of money that flows into somebody's life
when the emotional maturity may not be there. You know,
how do you go take a fifty thousand dollars entry
level job and we run these ads that ninety eight
percent of the people on the athletic fields or courts
or tracks are going pro in something else, and you've
had your own personal economics or value inflated. How do
(14:27):
you learn those lifelong lessons? I think the transfer environment
is linked to that, perhaps the inability to walk through
some of the difficult moments in life. Hey, it's not
every transfer is a problematic transfer. And I speak as
somebody who transferred a couple of times. You're trying to
figure it out, especially if you're a first generation college student,
like you don't have somebody pulling you aside and helping
(14:50):
you understand, Hey, maybe if you stick it out, build
your legacy in one place, receive some economic benefit, have
educational and relational continuity, come out as a more prepared
adult for what's next in life. The combination of those
factor the economic relationship, the transfer decisions, and then the
(15:11):
lifelong impacts that come from that we're not going to
know for a while. Those are at the top of
what keeps me up at night.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I propose this well to myself, but on my show
probably ten years ago, that if you have players who
are coming to school because they think they're going to
be a professional athlete, can you have some kind of
curriculum that helps them with investing, balancing a checkbook, real estate,
(15:37):
think taxes, things that have to do that are you know,
the history of Mesopotamia. While I took the course hasn't
helped me today. But if you're taking something that does
prepare you, and college is supposed to prepare you. If
I go to college and we have, you know, some
kind of symbiotic relationship of I'm coming to use you,
(15:58):
you're using me. I don't have any interesting staying in school,
but can you help them with things that will help
them in what they want to do.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
A few points like I studied the Mesopotamian thing and
had the same reaction. Then I went to the British
Museum and there's a section on Mesopotamia and I'm like, hey,
I read about this when I was fourteen or something
like that. That's one second. I think if it's if
it's only in life, do what you want and not
(16:28):
challenge you to broaden your horizons, I think we lose
an opportunity to help young people grow. So I would
never suggest we just walk away from a broad educational experience. Third, sure,
could we pivot and there are plenty of electives, There
are plenty of ways to learn. But our athletics departments
provide pretty deep financial literacy programs. In fact, I've debated
(16:51):
with current student athletes like should I not pay taxes
right now on my earnings and wait and paint at
the end of the year and then going to quarterly
tax payments for kind of ten ninety nine work so
that I can invest that money. I'm talking about nineteen
and twenty year olds in business classes and taking financial
literacy classes through their athletics department. It's not the lack
(17:14):
of provision of education, information and contexts that people involved
have to receive that whether it's Mesopotamia, real estate deals,
or how to balance your checkbook, it's not just that
the educational opportunity and the information is provided. They have
a responsibility to understand. They have to consume that information,
internalize it music. And I would say too for the
(17:36):
people around the student athlete, for the young person involved
in college athletics. You know, the notion that what's happening
around nil payments just continues all the way through life,
I think can be kind of a perceived pot of
gold at the end of a rainbow, that it's just
going to continue. And I think we all know that
(17:58):
hard work, dedication, perce taking a risk here and there,
betting on yourself, those are the things through the next
forty years of life that sets you up for success,
not that defined area between you know, eighteen and twenty two.
In fact, there's a John Grisham novel called Bleachers about
a high school football player. And I'll paraphrase one of
the lines in this novel and hey, it's a novel,
(18:19):
but it's pretty wise, which is the worst thing that
can happen to somebody is that become the biggest deal
ever when they're eighteen or nineteen years old, because there's
a whole lifetime ahead of you.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Big twelve ACC commissioners on your Christmas card list, you guys.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So yeah, hey, disagreements. Finally, one of my great conversations
a oneth Togo. Roy Kramer, who was SEC Commissioner number six,
was telling me stories about going to me with Jim
Delaney and Tom Hansen, who was the PAC twelve commissioner,
and like he said, we walk out of that room
and we hated each other, and then we went home,
we got to work and figured it out. I think
disagreement's absolutely fine. It makes us better. And I think
(18:55):
for the fact that we comment about each other, we
have a conversation as the four us tomorrow and yeah,
we rub each other all from time or time, but
we do have a responsibility to work together, and I
think each each of us understands that responsibility.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Play nice, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay, we'll go to the sandbox and see what we
can do.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And it's Greg Sanky, SEC Commissioner. We'll take a break.
We're back after this. Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
I don't think Greg Sanke, the SEC commissioner, is all
in favor of the automatic qualifiers. I think he wants
the twelve best college football teams to be in the playoffs,
and of course they're for selfish reasons, because he doesn't
want a limit on the number of teams the SEC
can sent to the playoffs. Do I think they're going
to go to fourteen, No, I think they'll go to sixteen.
(20:48):
The question is will it be for twenty twenty six?
Are they going to expand March Madness from sixty eight
to seventy two to seventy six? I think they will
expand to seventy two, maybe seventy six. And all it
means is, you know the Tuesdays and Wednesdays before the
tournament really starts, you know, when you start to fill
out your brackets, like those games count, not the first
(21:09):
four in. They'll just add more games to those Tuesdays
and Wednesdays, those more play in games. Uh, And I'm
fine with that. We've already gotten to this point. I
just don't want it to get to ninety six. Jim
Beyheim brought up ninety six, and I go, Jim, I
don't think so ninety six. Like have a little exclusivity
(21:34):
with this. Let me see a couple of by the way,
I believe on this date in twenty seventeen, palk Off
palk Off, Really, yeah, falk Off, was it twenty sixteen? Yeah,
nine years ago, and Fritzy you still I'm in trouble
(21:57):
with the run you are?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You are?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Look I understand Eminem was great at stretching a word
and made it fit, so it did rhyme, but yours
fork Off. Palk Off said of pork Off, like.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
It's almost an auditory disorder of some story.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well you I didn't think you were hearing correctly because
you I mean, it was just so weird that you
kept going, no, don't you get it? And I'm going, no,
you don't get it.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
I think my problem is it dof been hearing and listening.
I could hear stuff, but listen.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
A whole the time.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Wow, what are we doing for the big ten year anniversary?
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how you celebrate
that next June.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Some restaurant with rhyming words. They have rhyming restaurants.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I don't know, walk off a rhyme time at time,
but they didn't. They didn't rhyme. That's the thing, walk
it's a work in progress. When you said palk off
for pork.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah, I was trying to fit it into the triangle,
into the little circular box thing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, square pack.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:05):
The crazy part about that segment too, is we've aired
you know, we've aired like the same like say, like
sixty seconds of it. Yeah, a few times it actually
goes on for like seven minutes or something. The whole discussion,
it's a way more involved discussion with dozens of examples
of this going wrong.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Marvin, how about we post that on the newsletter social media.
We'll put that out.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
And when you're stubborn and you don't want to accept
that you're wrong and you just kind of go all
in on it and it continues to just take a
deeper hole type of time.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Uh, let me see Toby in California. Hi, Toby, thanks
for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Hey, Dan, I wanted to give you a best of
the weekend Best of the weekend is on Friday night,
I got to umpire the Savannah Bananas at Angels Stadium
and if you have a chance to go, highly recommended.
Most fun I've ever had on a baseball field. And
then I wanted to talk to you about a few
(24:01):
months ago you talked about connections with your fans, and
I feel like I have a connection with the show
more than anyone. With my kids, I do best and
worst every single day, and then I ask him every
single day what they learned today. And then every time
I pick up my daughters from school because I'm I'm
(24:22):
usually a podcast listener, they say, do we get a
listen to podcasts again of Dan Patrick? And they know
all the stat of the day songs.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Love your show.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Love you guys are more than just a sports show.
You guys are a connection show. And I appreciate all
that you do for us.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Thank you, Toby. And one other thing that you should
always ask your children who has it better than we do?
And then you want them to say nobody, Bob and Montana, Hi, Bob,
we got your video. Bob took a pie to the
face he thought we were winning the Sports Emmy. And Bob,
thank you for Uh, I guess paying up your bet.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Hey, Hey, no problem there, DP, Hey, well you stole
half my thunder there. I was going to call and
wish you guys a happy ninth anniversary for Sausage Off Day.
But that's fine.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Speaking of thunder, I'll move right into my second topic,
in the spirit of in the spirit of me losing
to the Miami losing the Miami Heat, losing to the
Nuggets two years ago, and Marvin took me up on
a pie to the face bent, then I'll just take
the Pacers straight up right now against OKAC. I'm hoping
Marvin will take me up again, but if he doesn't
(25:34):
want to, one of the other guys are yourself is
fine as well?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All right, Bob, Marvin will take you up on that,
Marvin Marvin, all right, thank you, Bob. Paul in Indiana,
Hi Paul, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Oh Dan? Thanks for taking my call six seventy oh.
Then a couple of years ago. If this line Don
is fit perfectly again, that's what I'd like to say.
I need to Payers are going to win because I
could kill it in my plums. They turned a nice
pace of blue, a sque time to take them to
(26:07):
the farmers market, which is in big final boom many.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thank you, Paul, congratulations. Call back in a couple of weeks.
Oh no, let me know how your plums are doing.
Dave in Denver, Hi, Dave, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (26:22):
What up?
Speaker 10 (26:22):
VP?
Speaker 13 (26:23):
Six foot one seventy five? So this might be the
first time in DP show history that the Seattle Manners
are going to get two best of the weekends. The
first one is Cole Young getting called up and getting
a walk off in the bottom of the eleventh, and
then the second one is kyl Rawley in this twenty
(26:44):
third deer, which is typer first in the MLB.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I know, go figure, the guy who has more home
runs than Judge and Shoe Autani is cal Rawleig And
if you go back since the start of the twenty
twenty three season, he's hit eleven go ahead home runs
in the seventh inning or later. That's four more than
any other player over that span. Who how stand of
(27:10):
the day?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Stand of a day? Stant out a day, stant.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Of a day.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is the Stanle of the Day, brought to you
by Penine America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Shows. Zach and Knoxville. Welcome back, Zach. What's on
your mind?
Speaker 14 (27:28):
ADB, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I hate to do this.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
I didn't know it was going to be with Marvin,
but I do agree with the Andrew McCutcheon take. But
I was actually calling for a pie to the face
for the Facers to win straight up. So does Marvin
wanted Michael d lay down?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Do you want to double down there? Okay, Thunder iron Jack? Yeah. Wait,
so you're saying Andrew McCutcheon's in the Hall of very good,
all of very good, correct? I know you want an MVP,
but I think we're being a little too lenient with
very good. Yes, Paul, I have Andrew mccutchen's career. He
(28:07):
came out hot five All Star games from age twenty
four to twenty eight, and then since the age of
twenty eight, he has not made an All Star Game
or been a top ten MVP candidate. He was cruising
his first seven years. How many hits does he have?
Speaker 15 (28:25):
I've got twenty two hundred, the two seventy three hitter. Yeah, okay,
he's not on the cusp of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He's the Hall of Good, which is in a different location. Yes,
it is, Marvin.
Speaker 16 (28:40):
So the Hall of Very Good is for guys like
Dale Murphy and Steve Garvey, guys that get seventy three
percent of the votes at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Yeah, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Would you put Andrew McCutchen in with Dale Murphy? No? Okay,
Steve Garvey.
Speaker 16 (28:59):
No, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We solved it. It's done, Yes, Tom, I was just.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Looking at the list.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Kirk Gibson erics, Tim Salmon never made an All Star team,
Blie Levin, Ferjie Jenkins, Robin yet. Uh actually, Bli Levan
and Fergie only two, Robin Young three.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
So what does that affect your decision on the cutching
As far as five.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
All Star Robin Young had three thousand hits, That is true.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
If you take the three thousand hits away.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Anyway, all Star teams with three thousand.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Then he well maybe he was a shortstop and Cal
Ripken always made it, and then he was a center fielder,
which you know, if he had those hits all in
one season, definitely, if you take away three thousand he hits,
he has none even accomplished it. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 16 (29:48):
But Joe Montana and Joe Namath are in the same
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, but I've said Joe name, it's not a Hall
of Famer, but they're in though I know, but I'm saying,
as much as I love Joe, he doesn't have Hall
of Fame credentials. He's in because of his name and
he won maybe the biggest game in NFL history.
Speaker 16 (30:05):
And Andrew mccutchin's in because of the work he did.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
He's just a good baseball player. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 16 (30:11):
So just Hall of Good.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He's yeah, he's a Hall of Good. I think we
got we gotta have boundaries here, and it just feels
like everybody's going to if you're not a Hall of Famer,
you're in the Hall of very Good.
Speaker 16 (30:22):
Yes, mar Oh, I didn't say that. I think the
five All Star Games, in an MVP Award, another top
three MVP finish got him in the Hall of Very Good.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But that's just me, Okay, that's you, I know, all right.
I mean, nobody is sticking up for Andrew McCutcheon today,
but you are. And you know, I don't know if
anybody else in America is doing this segment. Probably the
reason why once again. We don't win sports emmis. All right,
let me take a break. When we come back. Got
a quick NFL game, more phone calls as well. We're
(30:50):
back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Raven's running back Derrick Henry on the program tomorrow. Got
a new contract extension. You can't have an old contract extension,
right because whenever you hear any you got a new
contract extension. Isn't it just a contract extension. I don't
know if I need new in there.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
And his quarterback and coach have Tier one pressure. As
we discussed this.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
They do.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
They got a lot of pressure on them in Baltimore.
All right, Time for a quick NFL game and then
I have some amazing stats for you coming up. All right,
So Paulie, quick NFL gang. Got some theme music here,
here we go, all right.
Speaker 15 (31:41):
The Madden twenty six cover has been announced by EA Sports.
Two part question, who is on the cover and what
is the picture?
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Specifically?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Stefan Diggs on the.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
O two soon that's snarky, respect.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Jaydon Daniels that's a good one.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
He is not on the cover should have been. That's good.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It was on the cover of the year before. Do
we know that?
Speaker 15 (32:13):
No?
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Okay, I want to hint.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
The cover picture is a very specific play from last.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Season, very specific, very.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh uh, the push push Jalen Hurts. Now you're getting
closer that backwards leap.
Speaker 15 (32:40):
Saquon Barkley is on the cover of Madden twenty twenty
six and he's mid.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Air that spinning Joan Gang.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Wow, it's a great cover.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Had did anybody ask him if he had practiced that
before or done that in a game before. We didn't
have him on after that, but I'd like to ask
him that if he ever did that before in a game. Okay,
this day in sports history, Okay, here's some numbers for you.
This player is in his third season. He's already become
(33:14):
the first baseball player since nineteen hundred to have eighty
extra base hits, eighty stolen bases, and at least eighty
walks in his first two hundred games. He's the first
player to have over one hundred stolen bases in thirty
home runs in his first two seasons, first player ever
he also, well, that'll give it away, Give it away,
(33:36):
give it away. Now, in three hundred and eight career games,
he has struck out four hundred and thirty four times,
which matches Tony Gwinn's career strikeout total. Tony played in
four hundred and forty games, so over two thousand more games,
and they struck out the same number of times. Marvin,
Who am I talking about? Ellie delacrue la Cruz? Is correct, amundo,
(34:02):
because I was gonna say. He also holds the record,
which I didn't know they had records the fastest throw
from shortstop to first base. Any they want to guess
what Ellie Dela Cruz did with one throw from shortstop
to first base, Marvin, I'll go back to you.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
One hundred and eight miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm gonna give it to you. It's one oh six
point nine on your FM dial. One hundred and six
miles an hour. Ellie Dela Cruz, Well the first basel ouch,
that's gonna hurt. Let me see what I have here?
Uh Steven Ohio, Hi, Steve, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oregon, Oregon? Steve?
Speaker 17 (34:46):
Oh hey, jan Yeah, this is me six foot one. Uh,
that's the weekend is Oregon State Beavers lost first game
on Friday yesterday, won two games by a combined score
of thirty four to four, with tree runs in one inning,
all on suicide squeezes. Okay, so they're playing in the
(35:07):
final against us USC today in the regional final.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
All right, sound a little more excited, Steve, sound librarian,
little little dead. Yeah, it could have been. It could
have been in a library there. Just really excited.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
I just want to I can't wait for it.
Speaker 15 (35:24):
This day in sports history, Paul George Herman Babe Ruth
announced his retirement.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Raid and against Farmers nineteen elect This is a sad one.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Nineteen forty one. Lou Garrig died in New York.
Speaker 15 (35:39):
And let's see, oh, Randy Johnson achieved the first no
hitter in Seattle Mariner history nineteen ninety and this guy
was a thing. Nineteen ninety five, Hideo Nomo got his
first major league victory.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He was a thing, wasn't it. Dennis Leary, who does
the Lou Garrig joke? Oh no, Like, how did you
not see it coming? It's got your name written all
over louke Gerric, Yeah, I think it was Dennis Leary,
Sir uh Ken Griffey Junior. He was made his debut
in nineteen eighty seven and uh oh this was the
(36:15):
anniversary twenty ten. Armando Galla Raga lost his bid for
a perfect game two ounce in the ninth. Oh no,
Jim is the worst. Jim Joyce, Oh boy? And I
think there was a thirty for thirty called the Imperfect Game.
Great title. Yeah, that one that was a bummer.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
I had some Joyce words for Jim after making that
big hmm. How anythink he did to that? It's hard
to ask me, so I didn't show it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
DoD you had yea minus. No, don you had fifteen
years to give me a line, fifteen years to get
ready for that moment.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
Joyce words for Jim. Sticking with that one, this.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Is like choice words. Yeah, no, Jim Joyce and that
rhymes that thing that rhyme Joyce and choice. How would
you rate yourself today? What kind of grade would you
give you? Well? Markley and Greg sank those are good guests.
The only reason to get in the yes, Yes, I
think I would say it's just c.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
And Barkley loves you so that he kind of books
himself book a quick call and he says yes.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And Sankie, you know, loves the show, so maybe be
miney to see plus No, I'm gonna give you a
ce greater Yes I am, Yes, I am plus yeah
and no no.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
C plus dress up to sea a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
But you know, just so people know, it's not just
the guest you book, it's everything else that you provide.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
And it's only Monday, so we can only hopefully go
up from here. We've got another four days before the
next weekend to improve. You want to look at that one?
Popped it back to you in the studio.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay, thank you, tod Well. Derek Henry's on the show tomorrow.
This is a good relationship with the show. The show
kind of books itself. Really good to think about it.
Do I need you?
Speaker 7 (37:57):
I don't think so what do I do here? I've
read a sports entertise, what I try to crack a couple?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But I like you for all the other things. It's
not just the booking. It's like, you know, everything else
that you provide.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
With the show.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
That's kind of your to say yes for.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
A day where you were the Sea C minus tomorrow.
It's only Monday.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
I'm just getting stony.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Got to see my grandson on Sunday. Yeah, little guy,
little guy. Yeah. You know when they're only a couple
of days old and they're trying to open their eyes,
you know. I mean I've had that feeling before, and
hold their head. I know they're.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
Yeah, one of the cheeks.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It was great. But you know, my son, I already
know it all when it comes to child rearing. You know,
he's been a parent for a little over two years
and he's telling my wife and you guys got a
hold hold his head. I'm like, Jack, we we've done
this before. You turned out. Okay, right, I.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Thought, how you do the diaper? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (38:57):
How hard did you cry?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I didn't cry yesterday. I did not When when he
sent me the picture, I was a mess.
Speaker 16 (39:06):
It was amazing being there when your first grandchild was born.
We were all sitting at dinner in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I went outside. I said, I can't, I can't let
all these people to table see me bawling. And then
I go they've all seen me crying. That was great,
great moment. That's what we learned. I didn't cry yesterday.
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