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May 24, 2024 41 mins

Dan reminds us that Celtics G Jaylen Brown got paid last year and is currently two wins away from the NBA Finals so he doesn’t have to care about making the All-NBA Team. And he talks to NBA insider Brian Windhorst about the current state of the NBA and our chances at the Paris Olympics.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:55):
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up with the Lakers hiring who appears to be Jj
Reddick as their next head coach?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We had up there who had a better day yesterday?
College athletes are Scotti Scheffler. Right now, it is fifty
to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh okay, wild I would say college athletes had a
better day. Scotti Scheffler had a good day because the
video kind of exonerates him of his role there. Now,
the officer didn't have his body camera on. He got
scolded for that. But I'd say, you know, Scotti Scheffler

(01:32):
did pretty well yesterday, but the athletes might have done really,
really well now that they're going to get paid. There's
revenue sharing, and it feels like this a really big deal,
although it maybe doesn't create the headlines that I thought
it would because it feels complicated instead of just this
is going to happen. Athletes are going to get paid. Okay,

(01:53):
how much they're going to get paid, I don't know.
It varies on each school of how much they want
to pay. Are you going to pay football players the
same as football player?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Those are the things I want to know. Is this
going to lead to a super conference with football schools
and there'll be forty or fifty of those? That's what
I want to know. Yeah, pulling.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
I went back and looked it was September of twenty
nineteen and California was the first state to pass a
law governing college athletics to be paid for use of name,
image and likeness, and that was in the release, and
so they used the phrase nil in the PR release
that day, and I don't think they even knew what
they were doing in that day. They used nil, name

(02:35):
images like if they had gone likeness images and names
like whatever order and I'm looking at our rundown. We
didn't even cover it because it was California only, and
then twenty other states the next month did it, and
then everyone followed suits.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, I think we thought with Ed O'Bannon and he's
in a video game, and then these other athletes are
in this video game, and then they weren't being compensated.
So it felt like, hey, if you're ever going to
have a video game, and it's going to be Madden
College Football, then you have to compensate the players who
were in there. That's what I thought it was. I
didn't know that it would explode and all of a

(03:08):
sudden where we are now now. I didn't see it.
But you know, I don't make my living with college athletics.
If I'm a coach, athletic director, chancellor, president, conference commissioner,
and I'd probably want to do a deeper dive. And
it feels like people didn't. It's as if you got
into the deep end of the pool real quick. You

(03:29):
walked in and you go, oh, whoa, you know, this
is ten feet deep, and then all of a sudden
you look around and you go sink or swim. And
it feels that's the way it is with college athletics.
It's sink or swim. You got it or you don't.
You in that conference? You're not you in? You'r out? Yes, Marv.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Do you think you'll see more high end coaches in
football and basketball jump to the NBA or NFL once
they get the opportunity Because of all this back and
forth with college athletics, I.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Don't think you're going to stay as long in college athletics,
certainly in basketball with the transfer portal or football with
the transfer portal. We've seen some coaches leave. Jay Wright
left Villanova. He just didn't want to deal with this,
you know. The transfer portal played a role. Name, image
and likeness played a role. With Nick Saban. I just

(04:20):
can't imagine somebody who made their living old school is
all of a sudden going to go, Man, let me
embrace this.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Dion goes to Colorado He embraced it right away. He
understood what it was and you know, didn't shy away
from it and embraced it. You know, Dabo Sweeney won't
embrace it, like, Hey, you know the players that we're getting,
you know, they're not transferring in. We get our own players,
we get the you know, the players that we want. Well,
i'd say to Dabo, you haven't won in a little while,

(04:48):
and you're saying Alabama and Georgia they take transfers, but
you're too good to not take transfers. Good luck with that.
That's the future of the sport. I mean, it's ever
every person for themselves. We saw that with schools. Hey
let's dismantle the PAC twelve. Why well, we want to

(05:08):
make sure that we get in the big ten. We
want to get our money here. Now I'm gonna leave
the Big twelve. I'm gonna go to the SEC. Hey,
we're in the ACC. What about us? Can we get out?
Like that's all this is. These are universities, higher education.
These are I mean, that's really what these are. But
they're not. It's about athletics. It's about money. It's about

(05:31):
your team is playing for a title. You're in that conference.
How much money are we making? It's it's not hey,
this is a great institution, this is higher learning, but
it doesn't feel that way. And the players don't care
about tradition. They just want to get paid. And for

(05:52):
so long they didn't get paid, and if they did,
they you know, they were made to feel dirty because
they were taking some money under the table. Now I
can give it to you over the table. Yeah, well,
maybe I want it from you, Maybe I want it
from that coach next year. Maybe I'm going to leave,
Maybe I stay another year in college because you guys
are paying me a million dollars. I mean, this is

(06:13):
where we're headed. And none of these athletic directors can go, wow,
how did that happen? Under your watch? That's how it happened.
You allowed this to happen. And I've been shouting from
the mountaintops, and you know, a prominent coach said to me,
you keep thinking that offensive linemen are going to make

(06:35):
a lot of money. And I said, coach, that's where
I would spend my money. Offensive and defensive lineman. That's
what I would do. Look at Georgia, Look at the
draft for Georgia. Offensive defensive lineman. There's plenty of skill
position guys. How many great offensive and defensive linemen. He said,

(06:56):
what are they going to get? Like a pizza sponsorship?
He was so dismissive. And this is a prominent coach,
and I said, unless I'm reading this wrong, coach, these
everybody's going to get paid then, you know. Even then
he goes, oh, what are you going to do? Like
somebody's going to one hundred thousand dollars? I said, somebody's
going to pay somebody a million dollars and he goes

(07:17):
a million. They said bs. He didn't say bs. He
was like bull. And I said, somebody's going to get
paid a million. And we find out that's like the
starting wage. You know, we're gonna starts hit a million,
and then it's going to go up to five million.
Oh and we have now we have good conversations now

(07:37):
because he laughs, because he knows this became a mess
with all of these coaches and all of these athletic directors.
I said, look what you guys did. He goes, yep,
we did. We did it to ourselves.

Speaker 8 (07:49):
We did it to the.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sport headlines from last night Boston Celtics say, cruise to
the victory won twenty six one, ten forty for Jalen
Brown and Jalen Brown was asked about not being on
the All NBA team, and here was his response.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
Was there any motivation for you after hearing that you
didn't make an All NBA team?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, I want to say that. What would you say?

Speaker 9 (08:20):
I mean, we two games from the from the finals,
so you know, honestly, I don't got the time you
give it.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It sounds like a good answer, and I can understand.
You know, you're two wins away from the NBA Finals.
But last year, when you were in line for a
new contract, if you made the All NBA Team, then
you got a better deal. That's when it mattered. Probably
would have been a good question for him last year, then, yes,
it would have been. Well, no, he was on the

(08:48):
All NBA Team last year, so he's not this year. Well,
he didn't care. He didn't have to care because he
signed a five year, three hundred million dollar deal because
he was on the o NBA day.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Bad question either way, then, huh, this is complete irrelevant too.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Last year was the only year that Caylen Brown's ever
made the All NBA Team. In his six or seven years.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
In the league. Now Rob and Orlando is back. Hi Rob,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (09:18):
Dan? Good morning to you and the guys. Man. I
want to touch on the NC double A thing with
two quick shoutouts to call her that first off, Rick
waited to tell them through an eight hour day of
work and then picked up a new lovely lady at
the bar the next night.

Speaker 11 (09:31):
That was all.

Speaker 10 (09:32):
Also, man, my guy, uh my guy in Jacksonville Man
James and Jacksonville Man, welcome to the club. Brother, somebody
should do a welfare check on him on his birthday.
As far as they sc double A man, bark Emerck's
got to look at himself in the mirror today and
realize what an absolute turn burger he's turned over to
Charlie Baker. I mean, imagine how great and college football

(09:53):
is great anyway, but imagine how great it would have
been if you had done like most businesses have to
do in diverse and look at new things, and ten
years ago did this, and we could still have five
regionally significant conferences with twelve fourteen, sixteen teams whatever it is,
and then you've got a twelve team playoff man five

(10:16):
conference champions some Matt Largest that's a home run. I'll
hang up and listen.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
All right, well, thank you, Ron. It's like the tobacco industry,
the NCAA had to do this to continue to exist.
So they're going to settle these lawsuits. You know, the
tobacco company said, all right here, if you suit us,
we're going to pay and now you can never sue
us again. So the NCAA did this, settle this so

(10:42):
they can stay in business here. If not, they were
probably going out of business. And they may still go
out of business. But yes, Mark Emmertt under his watch,
and you know this was leading up to this, and
you know, we still haven't seen what the final result
is going to be of NIA and transfer portal and
all of this. And now you're gonna have revenue sharing.

(11:04):
I mean, it's still evolving. It's ever evolving here. But
it's they can't get out in front of it. That's
the problem that I have with this. They're kind of
you know, walking or running along with the boulder coming
down the mountain. It's an avalanche and you're running alongside
of it, and you're saying it's an avalanche. You can't

(11:25):
get out in front of it and stop it. And
that's part of the problem here, Brandy and Iowa, Hi Brandy,
welcome back, Hey.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
DP, Happy Friday. Hey, I've got a pull for you
and the Dan. That's a good idea, bad idea, Okay,
I purchased. I have two sons, so I purchased two
Dead Dead Club T shirts and shotglasses for them for
future use hopefully. However, I had the idea that possibly
this is a good idea, bad idea of giving them

(11:56):
those gifts on this Father's Day for future you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Oh, I don't know. Does your wife have a sense
of humor branding?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
She does. She loves the show. She gets a kick
out of it. I haven't run this part of the buyer,
but I'm like, well, do I wait and put in
my will and then they have to open them after
I'm gone. I don't get to enjoy it. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I would hold off on that. I would hold off
on that, Brandy. Hey, look what dad got you guys,
Dead Dad's Club for when I die?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yay, get you guys ready for Yeah, I don't know,
let's skip that one.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, or in lieu of an inheritance, I got you
these lovely shock last.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Year Mavericks at the Timberwolves and II Game two, the
MAVs are getting five and a half Panthers at the
Rangers Game two. Last night, the Oilers beat the Stars
in double oover time. Larry and Illinois. Hi, Larry, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (12:57):
Just let's see you guys talk about the you know,
the robot strike zone area. Can you imagine the argument
for the four played umpire when the guy somewhere up
top calls a strike it is a ball, And then
now he's got to argue with the guy.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, because it's going to register laring it. You'll see it.
It's on a screen. I mean, it's it's going to
be there to be seen and it's not going to
be one of those where somebody goes, oh wait a minute,
that's a ball. It will show up on the screen,
just like tennis. It will be in the strike zone,
a part of the strike zone, or it'll be outside
of it. That'll be it, and then it'll be instantaneous.

(13:41):
But I mean, it's going to happen. It's just a
question of you know, how many years down the road
they've been doing this. They've been trying to do this.
They've been tinkering with it in the minor leagues. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
By the way, did you see where my favorite coach
with the Lions, Dan Campbell, was asked a question about
this season for the Lions. And I was a little
surprised at this, but here is Dan Campbell being asked
about is it super Bowl or bust for the Lions.

Speaker 12 (14:12):
I don't see bust. I see super Bowl. I don't
know what the bust is. So it's you know, here's
what I know, man, we all know what the Every
team ought to have that right, every team ought to
be like, man, what are you playing for? You're playing
for a super Bowl? So we're no different than that.
But I think, yeah, we know that now we work
backwards from there, and so you got to set yourself

(14:33):
up no different than last year. Certain things you got
to do to really make that valid, you know, make
that a reality.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, that's the right answer. I mean, what do you
think he's going to say your goal is to win
the Super Bowl? He came close to getting to the
super Bowl. You should have the same aspirations. You re signed.
You know, your three best players, your wide receiver, your tackling,
your quarterback. You got a good young team. You got

(15:01):
really good offensive line and defensive line. There's a lot
of positives here. You got a good running back. Like,
why wouldn't you feel like like it's Super Bowl? If
we don't win, Yeah, then it's a disappointment. No, I
don't know what. Bust beans to the reporter who asked
that question. But can you still have a good The

(15:21):
Lions had a good year last year and didn't make
it to the Super Bowl. Can you still have a
good year and not make it to the Super Bowl?
Dan Campbell would probably say no, Yes, Mark, if.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
You're a Lions fan, are you just satisfied with being
consistently good year in a year up for the next
Say they're good for the next seven years, but they
don't win a Super Bowl? What do you guys think?
I like Celtics level.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Fans get greedy, like you go, oh, this is great.
Like if you say to Celtics fans, hey, how about
Eastern Conference finals. Hey, you might get to the NBA Finals,
might not win though, but hey, you're consistently good. After
a while, You're gonna go, yeah, this is nice. But
we'd like to win.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
See, getting close is only cool as long as you
eventually win.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Other than that.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Getting close and than not winning, it's like, what the hell?
That was the worst? Okay, five consecutive Sports SEMMI nominations. Hey, consistent. Great?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You guys feel good about that? I mean I do,
But you guys don't. It's like, no, we want to win.
Well some of us do, Like, no, I want to win.
You I do.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I can you spend a lot of time being like, no,
losing is best.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's the best thing for us is it's good for
our brand. It's good for our brand.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Once we win, then all of a sudden, those guys
have everything. That's the one thing we don't have. That's it.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yes, Mark, Well, I was thinking more so from Alliance
fans perspective, because your entire life, the team's been bad.
But you're getting to the point now we're really good.
We should be able to cash.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Even for seventeen years we've never won a Sports Tammy.
That's seventeen years losers or non winners, as I like
to call, we're non winning. That's what I told Scott
van Pelt. He's ozer for eight and I said you're
a non winner. You're not a loser, you're a non winner.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yes, mally, if you're Alliance fan, the relevance and competitiveness
and expectations are nice, but speaking authority on this topic,
you want one in your lifetime and that's it, that's
all you really care about.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, Paulie had the lovable Cubs. You know, occasionally they
dip into the playoffs and you'd have Sammy Sosa and
then after a while you're like, uh, you know, season ended,
we didn't get to the playoffs, or we got to
the playoffs, it didn't end well. Then after a while
you're like, we got one. Now he can never say
he got one in his lifetime.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Neil Armstrong didn't ask to go back to the moon.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
He didn't need to.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yes, Mark, So after nineteen eighty five, we're Bear we're
Bears fan shit, just saying bait, we'll take that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, they kind of still dining out on that. Have
you ever been to Chicago? Those guys are still dining
out on.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
An iconic team though you know it was they weren't the.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah so great, but not that great. They only won one.
You just saying, just saying, take a break, Brian Windhorst
from the Mothership will join us coming up next year
on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2 (18:54):
Wait, why open this other one?

Speaker 13 (18:56):
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Hey, try this one.

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Speaker 2 (19:16):
Game two tonight, MAVs at the Timberwolves. MAVs getting five
and a half Panthers at the Rangers game two. Always
a treat to have Brian Windhorse to the mothership. ESPN
senior NBA writer, A couple of random things here. Thanks
for joining us, Brian. When do you think we'll see
the first one hundred million dollar a year player in

(19:37):
the NBA? How long are we out?

Speaker 14 (19:40):
Six seven ish years? The uh, the new deal, it's
going to be about seventy five billion dollars. And I
don't want to get into the weeds of the collective
bargain agreement, but they've they don't They're not going to
allow it to spike up like it did the last
time this happened.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
They have a gradual Uh.

Speaker 15 (20:00):
It can only go up so fast.

Speaker 14 (20:01):
But there's going to be contracts signed this summer where
the back end of it in it's like twenty thirty,
twenty thirty one. There will be years there will will
they will be over eighty million, and so yeah, when
the guy actually gets paid one hundred million, it will
be into the next decade. But when he actually signs
for the one hundred million will be I believe within

(20:23):
this decade.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
And this is sustainable. This is is this streaming money
that's kind of you know, the backdrop on this. Did
I lose you?

Speaker 14 (20:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I hope him, hope.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
I'm not frozen.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh yeah, you're unfrozen.

Speaker 14 (20:46):
So the TV money in two thousand, Am I frozen?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
No? No, you're good, You're good, You're good. God, what
let's take a break, then we'll come back. Why don't
we see if we can re establish there, Brian, Now
he's frozen, we'll try to get him back here. At
the moment, well, he looked like he was contemplsed you. No,

(21:13):
I thought, damn good question. Yeah, just sitting there once again,
look at that. Wendy's stumped. But the one hundred million
dollar contract, it's right around the corner though, because you're
going to have Shay gilgis Alexander. He's going to get
eighty one million dollars. I think on the last year
of his deal that he'll sign.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, Paul, you know you and Barkley were talking about
that thing yesterday, about the international thing in the All
Star Game where it's the World versus USA. Yeah, and
both of you said like, well, maybe Adam Silver wouldn't
want that because then it's like, oh, USA loss to
be bad wouldn't it be the opposite effect if the
world won maybe be better for global expansion.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I just want to see something that's entertaining, interesting, So
I don't think if I'm the commissioner, i'd be like, oh,
I'm going to on the risk of oh what happened
to USA basketball? I know when it comes to the Olympics,
we're still the favorite. But I wouldn't be worried about
an All Star Game. I would want to showcase the
players from another country. I would want to elevate that,

(22:16):
be proud of that, let them be proud of that
as well. But I wouldn't be worried that, oh my gosh,
look at what has happened to USA basketball. The world
is dominating us. So I don't think that's happening. Let
me bring back Brian. So Wendy we were talking about
the one hundred million dollars and then I said, is
this streaming money that's kind of elevating salaries are going

(22:40):
to be.

Speaker 15 (22:42):
Yes and no, No, I still think it's mostly I
think it's actually broadcast money. I know that sounds crazy,
but if it's NBC and you know ABC are primarily
spending money, I mean it's the full sort of package.

Speaker 13 (23:00):
You know.

Speaker 15 (23:00):
You look at NBC, and you look at Disney, they
have all three. They have a cable network which will
be I don't know for sure. I'm not negotiating the deal,
but I guess USA. They have NBC and they have Peacock,
and ESPN has ABC, ESPN Networks and ESPN Plus. And

(23:21):
it's the deal that the NBA is making. It sounds
like it's going to be about over five billion dollars
a year with just those two and the current deals
it's under three billion dollars a year. So it's the
deal before you even get into the streaming partner, which
reportedly is going to be Amazon. You're doubling the deal.
And so look in two thousand and fifteen sixteen, which

(23:46):
was the last year of the last deal, it was
I believe less than a billion dollars a year, or
I don't know, maybe it averaged out right around. I
think it was about several y one hundred million dollars
a year that the NBA was making from its TV partners.
And in this new deal, I believe will average in
the neighborhood of seven billion. And the games are not

(24:06):
on mostly not on streaming. They're mostly going to be
on over the air and over cable. So it's just
the value of media rites and the competition in the industry,
and the value of live sports. I know that there's
this big belief that it's all dying, but we keep
continuing to see evidence. So that's not true in live
sports and in the in the NBA, where there are

(24:29):
only fifteen players on the roster, the jumps there are
going to be most evident. And so you know, Dan,
we went between Michael Jordan, who was paid thirty million
dollars those two seasons at the end of his career,
at the end of his Bulls career, I should say
in like ninety seven ninety eight, I think he put
over thirty million twice. We didn't see another thirty million

(24:52):
dollar player in the NBA because they put the max
contract in shortly there after they had the lockout for
that there was not a thirty million dollars a year
player again for almost twenty years. Think about how that happened,
and now there's dozens of thirty million dollars a year players.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Dozens.

Speaker 15 (25:09):
That's in some cases that's considered a bargain contract, a
thirty million dollar contract now. So we've seen a huge
difference in the last decade and that's going to continue.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The Cavaliers said goodbye to their head coach, and I
was wondering what that vacancy does, if anything, to the
timeframe of the Lakers if they're you know, going to
hire JJ Reddick or whoever it is are that Are
they connected at all these these openings, Well, it.

Speaker 15 (25:38):
Depends on who the Lakers' top choice is. Yes, the Lakers'
top choice is indeed JJ Reddick, and I don't know
that it is. I think that he's a strong candidate
there their competition the finals on ABC, because you know,
JJ is calling the finals on ABC, and you know,
I would think that if he's hired as the coach

(25:59):
of in any team, it would be difficult to call
the finals and that's his job right now. So that's
an interesting by product that we don't always get. There
are other candidates, I think, you know, James Warrego is
the name that I feel like I'm the only one
bringing up. James Warrego is a very accomplished coach who
is who got a raw deal when he got in
my opinion, got a raw deal when he got fired

(26:21):
in Charlotte and is a strong candidate, especially for a
team like Cleveland the needs offensive intervention. And I think
he's a strong candidate in LA because if nothing else,
he's got a very good relationship as far as I know,
But or he's got a good a relationship with Anthony Davis.
So but in theory, yes, they are competing a little

(26:42):
bit the same type of coach. The Cleveland situation is
more tied to Donovan Mitchell than anything because this move
is at least in part related to Donovan Mitchell, and
I think that'll make the Calves potentially more aggressive, and frankly,
the Calves have demonstrated a more willing to spend in
the Lakers, so that I don't know if that'll be

(27:03):
a factor. I don't know if it'll come down to
a coach deciding between the two. But the last time
the Lakers were in a bidding war for head coaches,
they lost them, So I don't know if that'll happen.
But it's interesting. It's interesting history to know.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, you bring up the valid point of it's not
normal when you go this guy would get the job,
or they'd announce the job or have you know, an
introductory press conference. You're the new head coach of the Lakers,
but JJ Reddick's going to be working for the next
couple of weeks, which may be the hold up, and
then the stories that come out, the reporting that Lebron's
not involved. Why wouldn't Lebron be in it, be involved

(27:42):
for maybe the last two years of his career on
who's going to coach? Like it almost seems even more
important that he wants to know who's going to be here,
and you know, how do how do I get along
with this guy?

Speaker 15 (27:55):
All right? So this is one of these things where
the only thing I can do as a reporter is
ask the consumer for nuance. I can't guarantee the nuance
in this world of aggregation. Something that I say in
the next two minutes can be taken out, taken out,
and my phone will explode. I can just beg you
for nuance. Star players typically, as you know, Dan, I'm

(28:19):
not talking to you directly. I'm talking to your viewers
and listeners. Star players typically do not make yes and
no choices on coaches. It is unusual, not unheard of,
but unusual for a star player to speak to a
team and say I want this individual fire today, you know,
to come into the office and pound your fifth or

(28:41):
I want this player hired. Star players make their feelings
about their coaches known, not in one meeting, but in
six months, and the executives who are with the team
watch how a star player interacts with his coach for
six months, and so yes, I'm sure that there are
discussions that happened, and there might even be a heads

(29:02):
up given you know, hey, we're thinking about going this direction.
Star players don't want Typically, again, you can find instances
it's not true, but typically star players do not want
it on their hands that they are picking their coach,
even if they helped do that over the course of
the season. So Lebron learned very early in his career

(29:25):
he didn't want to get involved in that, and so
he is never as far as I know. I think
maybe the one time where I think he played more
of a direct role was when David Blatt was fired
and Tyleru was hired. But I honestly don't think he
played a direct role in hiring of any of the
coaches he's had. But then you could say, has he

(29:48):
influenced the hiring and firing of coaches. Of course he has.
So this is the this is the thing. It's not
simple to say. So when Lebron distant himself from the
hiring of JJ Reddick, it doesn't mean that he's not
influencing the higher But he's not going in there and
saying hire him. And you know what part of the

(30:09):
influencing of the hire is you think the Lakers haven't
watched the podcast or listening to the podcast. Do you
think they haven't watched JJ Reddick on and listening to
his podcast with other guests and watch how he's interacted
with other players. Is JJ Redick being hired because Lebron
said hire him? Or you know, if if he's hired,
you know, I don't know if he's going to be hired.

(30:30):
If JJ got hired as a coach of the Lakers,
if if, if, Okay, would it be because of one moment? No?
But would the Lakers be influenced by the many hours
that they have watched and listened to his podcasts and
watching players? Yes? So does that mean the players want
him as a head coach? Maybe? Does that mean they're

(30:50):
going in and saying, get me into coach now?

Speaker 8 (30:52):
No?

Speaker 15 (30:53):
And I hate to be beating this, beating this up,
but I mean I run into this every day during
this time, and I know as soon as people listen
to this, they'll say, yeah, well Lebron still't make a decision,
and I can't. I could only tell you what I
experienced and actually talking to the primary sources here. If
you choose not to believe that you can do that,
it's to your choice.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
We're talking to Brian Windhorst, ESPN, Senior NBA writer. We've
talked about this with the All Star Game, the international
players versus the American players, and it feels like it's
top heavy with the international players, where my starting five
is going to be really, really good. We were just
talking would the commissioner want to risk if the international
players happen to beat players born in the United States,

(31:37):
Like it would it be a negative at all on
the NBA if you had an All Star Game with
those two signs.

Speaker 15 (31:44):
Well, the thing about it is an All Star game
doesn't have practice. It's you know, it's not a referendum
on who's better. I mean again, this goes into nuance,
like if the international players have beat the American players,
could you easily say the international players are better. Yes,
of course you could say that. Did they have a
shoot around and go over three plays?

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Are they?

Speaker 15 (32:05):
You know what I'm saying, like it's hard. By the way,
international teams, the international teams have been regularly beating Team
USA in international competitions. For the last five six years,
Tmusa did not lose in any not just the Olympics,
but in any competition. They didn't lose between two thousand
and four, which was in took sorry, two thousand and six,

(32:25):
all the way up to twenty nineteen, thirteen years, they
didn't lose one time, and they've lost like seven six
or seven eight times in the last few years in
the international competitions and with our frontline players, by the way,
sometimes they were second, our second best team, but frontline
players there. This summer in Paris will be the highest level,
highest most competitive basketball competition in the history of the

(32:48):
sport being staged in Paris. I say that without qualification,
and it's very possible the Team USA for the first
times in two thousand and four will not win the
gold and it won't be because as there they're not
you know, interested or care or well coached or whatever.
They may just get beat and when it comes to

(33:09):
All Star weekend, Dan, we're headed for a major change
to All Star Weekend. I don't know if you talked
about this, you probably did, but I think Roger Goodell
recently went on the record saying that he wants to
extend this the NFL season by a week. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (33:23):
Okay, that would push the Super Bowl into President's Day weekend.
President's dy weekend is where the NBA has this All
Star Game. And you could make a couple of jokes
here about how the NFL has moved in on Christmas
and now they're about to potentially move in on President's Day,
and both would be correct. So the NBA is gonna
have to make a change with All Star Game. They
can't if you know, they can't play on Super Bowl weekend.

(33:45):
And they have this other event, the n Season Tournament,
which is now called the Emirates Cup. Please please make
a note of that. And I suspect that the NBA
will consider merging those those those events into one weekend
and potentially doing away with the Shenanigans of Saturday and

(34:08):
the NBA Saturday Night and making it three nights and
having the semi finals All Star Game and uh and
the Finals all in one. And now now there's obviously
a ton of logistics, namely since they have named the
All Star sites like the next five or four or
five years. And I mean, this is my speculation from

(34:33):
talking to people. I'm not saying this is absolutely going
to happen, but I think this is something that's been discussed.
And uh, that way you would potentially get this uh
you know, mega event where people could actually plan to
go to it, and you would actually have competition over
the weekend while also having an All Star Game. And
if you look at the calendar. Now again Adam Silver

(34:54):
hasn't told me this, but I am not a fool.
I can look at the calendar and you say, well,
where on the calendar without having the All Star Game
in April, where on the calendar can you avoid college
or NFL playoff games? And the answer is the week
in between the championship weekend the Super Bowl that weekend
where you know they put the Pro Bowl, which actually

(35:16):
is something that nobody actually takes them in from the NFL.
And so I speculate, speculate, Okay, I'm not reporting this.
I do not want to see aggregation it says report Colon. Okay,
I am speculating this based on conversations that I've had
that we're going to see a change to the All
Star Game and possibly uh you know that. And so

(35:38):
if you're going to make a change like bringing the
international uh first us in there, that would be a
time where you could, you know, make a change when
you're doing that, that whole changeover.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
The great speculator, Brian Windhorst Wen do you have a
great weekend. Thank you again for joining us, you too.
We'll take a break back after this.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
We close up shop every Friday. This way Meet Friday
and with Marvin singing.

Speaker 9 (36:14):
Since I was a tiny ball, ever since I had
these tiny hands, come on, whoa wow.

Speaker 8 (36:24):
I don't don't really jump in on that.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I know, and I'm a big hand guy. Now, yeah,
you are compared to Marvin's hands, You've got mits.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I feel like, as a former small hand guy, I
can make that joke, especially now that I'm no longer
a small hand guy. That was necessary. Marvin I apologize,
it was not and it's out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Five minutes left in the show.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
No, since I had.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
These tiny hands, it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
It's a long weekend. He's gonna be carrying that with
him all weekend long.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I apologize Marvin trying to carry with it. Oh, shouldering
that rather than wow.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I asked Marvin. He said, do you think we ever
get tired of making fun of your small hands? And
He's like, you, guys know, where's the glove and where's
the love?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Oh, it's one of the best things you've ever done
for us.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
Measure your damn hands.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I know, gosh, and I kept thinking, you know, I
know the result. It's gonna be seating and have the
smallest hands, obviously, and seat when Seatan reacted that way,
when mart and the smallest hands are Marvin Seaton had
one of the greatest days of his life.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's the greatest victory I've ever had in my entire life.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm looking at what's happening that this weekend, entire life.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yes, it's the little things in life, like your hand.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Oh, okay, Rangers and the Panthers coming up this weekend.
You have how about Reese Olsen. Does anybody know who
Reese Olsen is.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
It's one of the Olsen twins.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, it's the other twin, one of the Olson siblings. Yeah.
Reese Olsen is a pitcher for the Tigers, and uh,
he's really good, really good. He's the only starting pitcher
among eighty qualified starters with zero wins this season, but
his ERA is two point one six. He pitches against

(38:29):
the Blue Jays.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
This qui.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Blue Jays at Tigers's.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Going a few runs. Tigers help the guy out.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Of the Manchester City, Manchester United.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yes, we're in. Are you watching? Uh yeah, probably Breakfast? Yeah.
Then on NBC this weekend, how about Denver Lacrosse versus notre.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Name again Las.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
University of Denver quietly become title town. Just letting you know.
Dylan the graphics guy went there. Yes, they've got ten
national titles in hockey and they're trying to add to
their trophy case with a lacrosse time actually the most
in Division one. And thank you, Dylan. Eleven thousand students

(39:22):
F one f you Monaco Grand Prix that'll be coming
up this weekend as well. Let's go there, you want
to go there. Sometimes I've been to Monico. You have, Yes,
I have. Was it for the Grand Prix? No, No,
it'd be a good one to go. There are a
lot of beautiful people in there in Monica. Small place,
very rich place. But King Sawaian wants you to slide

(39:46):
into Sunday. Slide into your weekend. Go to the bakery
deli section of your local store, pick up the sweet, fluffy,
irresistible kings Hawaiian rolls slider buns, and enjoy what a
great week? Did a decent job this week?

Speaker 9 (40:01):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Solid and improving?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Okay, call back.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Just the fact that somebody used to be our boss
said to the dan Nets that they were solid and improving.
And I didn't know this. I didn't know a lot
of things that were said to the dan Nets in
an email. You're solid and improving.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
It was meant well, it was meant.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh, I'm sure it was taken that way.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
It was meant as to be a compliment.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
This day in sports history Paulie nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
The AFL Solid Improving gave a franchise to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
H eighty seven.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Al Answer Senior, Great Family of Racing, won his fourth
Indy five hundred and nineteen ninety and a sixteen in
a game Andre Dawson was intentionally walked five times.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
What'd you learn today, Toddler.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I'm going to land the plane with this one.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Marvin reminds us that the Celtics may be light young,
but not basketball yet.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
This seaton, the Emirates Cup has come to the NBA.
What are we doing with the Emirates Cup?

Speaker 8 (40:56):
All right? Why not?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Marvin?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
We're not losers. Were non winners.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Were non winners, Paulie measurement. Sliding into the weekend, brought
to you by our partners, King Sawian. Get together this
weekend and you can do what we just did. Slider Sunday.
Make every Sunday a Slider Sunday. Have a great weekend,
safe weekend. We will be back on Tuesday for Fritzie
Seat and Marv, Paulie yours truly the back room guys.

(41:21):
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