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November 12, 2024 40 mins

Dan closes out the show with more calls and reactions from the NFL weekend. Jerry Jones doubles down again on the sunlight blinding players in AT&T Stadium. Fox Sports' Nick Wright stops by to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs and why they might be bored, why he picked against them vs. the Broncos, and if KC can go undefeated.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:50):
Pull question for the final hour, the program is going
to be what seed o' connor? If all three of
these jobs are opening the pay of the same. You
would rather coach the Bears? Jester Saints A Bears, Yeah, Bears.
I mean I have I have some pieces in place.
I have to believe that Caleb Williams is a franchise quarterback.

(01:15):
The Jets are still if Rogers comes back next year,
the mess continues if he does, and it's a total
rebuild there the Saint Remember the Saints started out too
and oh scoring forty points, Like all right, okay, people
are saying, oh, you know they got a love you
got Camara Derek Carr, and then all of a sudden,

(01:37):
it's hmm, let's fire our coach. Now, what are you
going to do? That feels like that's a rebuild as well.
You know, the Jets are just a mess. I mean,
Aaron Rodgers should be an attraction, but I think he's
a detriment. If I'm a coach, a new coach, and like,
if I'm Ben Johnson the offensive coordinator for the Lions,

(01:59):
do you want to take your chance with the Cowboys?
Feels like the Bears would be the place. So he
would go from the Lions to the Bears and then
he would have Caleb Williams, And he was rumored to
be if they fired Matt Eberflus. They fired his offensive
coordinator this morning. Shane Waldron, Yes, he is.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
There any concern though with the Bears that you're stuck
with somebody else's parts.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, I'm okay with being stuck with Caleb Williams if
I think he is truly a franchise quarterback. I'm like
any job that you're going to take, first thing I
want to know is, okay, who's my quarterback? Now? With
the Cowboys, you know who your quarterback is, but you
also know who your owner is. That to me is
a deterrent Yes and a.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Jets and Saints. You basically get to pick who your
quarterback's going to be. Yes, but you got to get
a quarterback. Yeah right, you have to get one, but
you're able to choose. Whereas with Caleb Williams, that's going
to be your guy. So you're attaching your career to
his ability.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, yes, I'd be okay with that. I mean, once again,
he's acting like a rookie, playing like a rookie. And
let's see how he is at the end of the year.
The offensive line has not been good. I thought that
they shored that up. Therefore, I thought that he would
be able to play NFL style football. He's still playing
USC style football, but you can't do that in the NFL.

(03:24):
You can't run around willy nilly, and people think Mahomes
is a scrambler. He's an opportunist. It's like, you know,
I can extend the play, I can run down the sidelines.
I can get out of bounds. He's not a guy
that I look at and go, oh man, he'll just
take off and run. No, that's Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray.

(03:46):
You really have to understand this is what I can
and can't do. And Steve Young. I go back to
Steve Young when he first came to the Niners. When
he first came into the NFL, he was really unbelievably
athletic quarterback and probably could have played running back. He
had to learn how to not run. He had to

(04:07):
learn to almost say, you can run and get fifteen
yards here, but you can't keep doing that. And he
had to teach himself to stay in the pocket and
go through his progressions. And Caleb won't have to learn that,
and so far he has it. You might see one
covered and then you take off, or hey, I'm going

(04:27):
to scramble. Well, he might be hurting the offensive line
as well. He holds onto the ball too long. You
got to be half a second sooner. You can't be
half a second later. And you've got to figure all
of those things out. You got to learn what you
can do and not do instead of saying, hey, I'm
Caleb Williams. I can do whatever I want here, because

(04:49):
you can't until they shore up the offensive line. He's
got some weapons there, I thought, and I thought that
defense was good. They should be a playoff CA. Yeah,
there was this.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I know that this happens a million times a weekend,
but there was this video from the last Texans game CJ.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Stroud.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I forget who the wide receiver was, but he drops
back the pass and you see him go through a
couple of people and then he just lets one fly
and they have this slow motion video of the wide
receiver running and that ball is in the air before
he turns.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
And it's not like a forty yard pass.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's like, I don't know, like nine yards, maybe twelve
yards something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
But he lets this ball go before the wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Even turns into his route, you know, before he makes
that turn, and it was just it was so impressive
to see that he knew exactly where that guy was
going exactly. They're perfectly in time. It's really really interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hasn't been enough of that this year because his offensive
line also is two best wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
But that.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Inate ability to throw to a spot where the receiver
when he turns, it'll be there for him. And that's
what you have to learn. Like your windows are so small.
When you watch a college game, the windows are wide open,
wide open. You're not going against elite talent all the

(06:10):
time at you know, every position in the NFL, you
just you may have a tiny window and you got
to squeeze it in and you have to throw guys open.
He didn't have to do this at USC. You know,
you don't. Jayden Daniels didn't have to do this at LSU,
Drake May at North Carolina. But once you get into

(06:31):
the NFL, I mean, it is so fast. And I
know I've said this so many times, but when you're
on the field and you see how fast guys are,
it's amazing. You know that they're able to fit the
ball into tight windows. Even the officials calling a play,
you know, a penalty and you're like, god, I didn't
see that. But to be able to do that, and

(06:52):
these are things that Caleb Williams has to learn. But
I think the problem was the expectation level in Chicago
was crazy and it shouldn't have been. You know, what,
were they undefeated in the preseason. All of a sudden,
here we go, we got our guy. But I go
back to Caleb throws four touchdown passes in London, comes

(07:15):
back home bye week, and then you start to look
at the you know, hey, we got a chance to
get maybe nine nine wins. All of a sudden, you know,
you start looking at those games differently, all right, and
then all of a sudden you throw the hail mary
pass the Commanders do, and after that, like they're point differential.

(07:39):
It went from plus fifty to minus forty two after that,
so they're up fifty more points right before Jane Daniels
threw that hail mary pass. After that, they've been minus
forty two. And you just lose your offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yes, Marvin, if you're the Bears, you just say to
Belichick or Mike Rabel or Ben Johnson, name your price.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, I don't know if you say name your price,
but I think with Rabel and with Ben Johnson, he's
gotta be careful. I mean, he wanted big, big numbers
there and scared off some teams. I think he wanted
fifteen million dollars a year. He's going to be probably
even more valuable if the Lions go to the Super Bowl,

(08:25):
win the super Bowl. Now all of a sudden, we're
talking eighteen twenty million dollars. But you're the Bears. You
haven't done anything, you don't spend a lot. Do you
want to bring him in? Mike Rabel, I don't see
Bill Belichick doing I don't, I don't. I've said it.
I don't see Belichick coaching anymore. I think he's got
a good gig, good gigs, and you know, he's able

(08:49):
to enjoy his life. It's like Nick Saban. I never
thought I would think that I would outlast Nick Saban
with him coaching and me doing what I'm doing. But
the strat, the portal, NIL, all of that drove him out.
And Fritzi's the only reason that I would stop doing
what I'm doing. Like he's my NIL and my transfer portal.

(09:12):
But I'm gonna still stick through it.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
I think you should.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, for the next couple of years. I'm gonna still
through it. Yeah, try to do that. Put up with
Todd uh Let me get a couple of phone calls
in here, Noah in North Carolina. I Knowah, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 7 (09:27):
What's van and the day?

Speaker 8 (09:29):
And that uh six man, I've always wanted to do that.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
Okay, so hie to the fake that big pie.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
The face be given.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
I'm a Ravens fan, but I am terrified of the
Steelers right now, and I see them making it to
the super Bowl. The momentum they're carrying, the veteran team,
they have their defenses unreal, and Russell Wilson is playing
like I'm just better than I I feel like I've
seen him in Seattle and he's really fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Wait wait, wait, slow down, Noah, slow down. It's okay.
Steelers are playing pretty well in the last three games.
So you got the Steelers winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
Now, I know the NFC has some contenders, only.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
The AFC is brutal. What Todd you got you're going
to take him up on this?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah, the Steels are not going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, Noah, Princy's gonna take you up on the pide
to the face.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Spent gound's good. I'll see you in February.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, how about that, let's go. Yeah, he's going to
see you Michael and Nashville. Hey Mike, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 9 (10:34):
Hey Dan?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
How's it going?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (10:36):
I know you're not the biggest fan of the court
storming and the field surfing and all that, but I
got to say on Saturday in Oxford, Mississippi, ten years
ago is my freshman year when we tore the goalpost
down against Bama. We did it again, dominating, went over
Georgia and hey, as the great old Myths baseball legend
tim Elko said, don't let the ReBs get hot en

(10:58):
route to a national title. An eye out on those
ole Miss rebels.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
We get the right path.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
That defensive line eats like that. Ole Miss has a
real shot. Keep an eye out on him.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
All right, I will, Michael, thank you, keep an eye
out on him. Yes, Paul, ole Miss has.

Speaker 10 (11:15):
A friendly end of the season. They got Florida, which
shouldn't be a problem, Mississippi State, Mississippi State, which should
not be a problem.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
And then the SEC title game.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, I'm going to keep an eye out on them,
going to keep an eye on him. Time to play
the NFL. Jersey sales game NFL Jersey sales game.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
It's just in Dan.

Speaker 10 (11:38):
These are the top ten Jersey sales in the NFL
from April first into last week.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So individuals not team correct.

Speaker 10 (11:45):
Okay, there are ten names on there who would like
to throw the name Derrick Henry.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Eric Henry is incorrect.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
How Patrick Mahomes he is third. Marvin Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
Did not make the whoa, where are the Swifties? Must
have been Ben Ceedee Lamb Ceedee Lamb is correct.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Number seven. Dak Prescott, he did not make the list.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Damn actually the better cowboy Ceedee lamb wowb.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
He just said that definitely made it.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Still number still number still number seven.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Mark Jackson, No, did not make the list.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You got to think of Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 (12:28):
No.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Caleb Williams.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
He's second because remember it starts after the draft.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Jadeen Daniels.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Jane Daniels is fifth.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
They should be much higher than that.

Speaker 10 (12:37):
Now, there's some players that are stars, but not they
a little youngerish because you probably got a Dak Prescott
jersey if you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh you already got that. Yes, Okay, Marvin.

Speaker 10 (12:51):
I'm in Ross Saint Brown, I'm in Ross Saint Brown
is six.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Good call. Whoa nice Paul Marvin.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Here's a hint. M now go, I'm gonna let it go.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
I think there's five.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
We're not getting many. Did we say, Michael Parsons, We
did not.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
He did not make it.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Wow, there's gotta be some defenders on that. I think
we're pretty there are.

Speaker 10 (13:14):
There are two defenders on there. Two defensive linemen. TJ
want Nope, Marvin, Oh, we're forgetting c J.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Stroud.

Speaker 9 (13:22):
C J.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
Stroud is number one. Wow, jersey man, big rookie season.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, and now we have to get to the two
defensive linemen.

Speaker 10 (13:31):
Two defensive linemen and one quarterback and one wide receiver
that's been around a while.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Aaron Rodgers, no Cooper Cup, no Montrez Sweat, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Justin Jefferson is on the list. He's ninth.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, So we got to get the defensive lineman.

Speaker 10 (13:53):
And one quarterback who it's very odd because you'd think
that they're cousins.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
No, that's not a bad guess though.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Baker Mayfiel Junior the third.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
No, this guy has been entrenched and his fan base
loves him with a big l and you think they'd
have his jersey by now?

Speaker 10 (14:09):
Joe Slacko Josh Allen is eighth.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
He's like, you know what, I think this guy is
going to be a thing. I think he's going to
be good.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Two defensiveignments.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So not t J Watt, not Miles Garrett, Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Correct number four one more cross crack.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Ten jersey sales, game max with two xes. He made
that choice.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, well someone did. Yeah, it wasn't just m A
X because you know what's even bigger than M A
X x xx. Yeah, thank you Todd? Yeah yeah, oh
double x Yeah, it could be triple x.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, when we come back, Nick, right, why did
he think the Broncos were going to beat the Chiefs?
And what's a bigger mess? And the Jets of the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 2 (15:15):
We'll talk to Nick right here, our good buddy coming
up here in a moment. Fresh and Milwaukee is back. Hi, Fresh,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (15:24):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (15:24):
DP?

Speaker 9 (15:25):
This is Fresh and Milwaukee trying to holler at to
good people. First of all, I want to send a
fact shout out in a black eye to Chris Ford
for making that first three pointer in October twelfth. He's
the one that's got this thing going off. I bet
that first three pointer was like Steph Curry hitting six
of them. But the second thing is and this is

(15:48):
what DP and the Dan is in the Great Memories
of wil Chamberlain baby babies.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Thanks you giving me a top three centers, Oh, Tom,
three centers, you know what, I'll give it to you.
Let me get to Nick Wright, who just joined us.
Nick Wright, of course the co host of First Things
First weekdays at three eastern on Fox Sports One, also
All Things Right with Nick Wright on YouTube as well,

(16:18):
and Nick joins us on the program. Why did you
think the Broncos were going to beat the Chiefs on Sunday?

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Well, I don't think they're going to go undefeated, or
I didn't think they were going to go undefeated. At
this point, you got to open it up as a possibility,
and all year long I felt like there was they
were going to go five and one in the division,
and this game coming up against Buffalo is the only
meaningful game left on the schedule. If they win this

(16:46):
game against Buffalo, they're kind of playing for nothing. The
final seven weeks, they'll be four games clear of Buffalo,
four games clear of Baltimore. I guess you could say
Pittsburgh could run them down, but I don't think and
I really respect Pittsburgh's done. But given their schedule, they
have six divisional games plus the Chiefs plus the Eagles left,
they're not gonna run the table. So the Chiefs would

(17:09):
have a four games clear of the field. So I
just thought it was a game that Sean Payton's Super
Bowl Denver's defense with Vans Joseph played the Chiefs well
last year. A lot of factors. And here's the other thing,
kind of weird spot. The only one o'clock Sunday kick
for the Chiefs all year, so it's kind of like

(17:29):
a body clock weird, like West Coast team going east
type of thing. They're not used to playing early, and
all of that played out, but they're the you know,
one of the greatest teams ever put together, so they
won anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
How big a deal is this going undefeated for the Chiefs.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
Well, I think it would be a bigger deal if
they weren't chasing what I think is maybe more impressive history. Now, obviously,
if you could three peet while going undefeated, that's unfathomable.
But like, let me ask you, Dan, do you if
the Chiefs were to three peat at fifteen and two,

(18:06):
are they a more legendary team than the seventy two Dolphins?
I think so, yes. So I think it's because you're
going for it. Would be almost as if when Lebron
was chasing down Wow got Lebron into if the same night,
like Lebron could have broken Kareem's all time scoring record,

(18:29):
he was going for the single season scoring title. It's
like both are cool, but one is held in a
higher regard than the other. And so that's why last
year I was big on the undefeated thing, and they obviously,
you know, lost their very first game, because to me,
that was a unique carrot as like, hey, no one's
ever done this. A lot of teams, even though it's

(18:51):
been a long time, have gone back to back.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm wondering, and this made the rounds yesterday. Are the
Chiefs maybe bored a little bit and maybe bored on
offense a little bit that they like degree of difficulty
and that maybe we're seeing a little malaise there.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
So I don't think they're bored. I think they're practicing.
I think that Listen. It is not coincidence that Mahomes
has the worst numbers of his career except for in
the fourth quarter, when he's the best quarterback in the league.
It's not coincidence the Chiefs offense is pretty mediocre except
for third downs, where they have the best third down

(19:30):
conversion rate of any team in fifteen years. It's not
coincidence that they trail in every game this year but
one and then come back. What I think is for
a team that knows it's going to be a twenty
game season and only two or three games actually matter,
they are using the beginning of games to figure out

(19:52):
what most teams try to figure out in practice. I
think most teams in practice they're like, all right, what
are the fifteen plays that definitely work, Let's use them
on Sunday. I think the Chiefs in games are like, Okay,
what are the plays that we don't know if they work,
that might get added to the play, you know what
I mean? What I like to call the good plays,
like it's crazy how just when they got to have it,

(20:14):
that's when they run the good plays. And it's also
why I would prefer they not have to pull these
games out on final drives, because I think one of
their playoff edges is there's gonna be less tape of
them running their good plays than other teams. But the
more times you have to activate that gear, you know,
the more that gets out there. But I don't I

(20:36):
really feel like, let me give a kind of thirty
thousand feet. Two years ago, the Chiefs were fairly doubted,
and by fairly, I don't mean moderately, I mean like
it should they should have. They hadn't won the Super
Bowl in a couple of years, Malmes coming off his
worst playoff performance ever, they traded away Tyreek Kill. That
doubt was legitimate. They win the Super Bowl. Last year,

(21:00):
they were somewhat fairly doubted because they truly played bad
football for a six week stretch and lost games. This year,
it is purely a media creation. They are the two
time defending champions, with the best coach, the best decoordinator,
the best special teams, the best quarterback in football, the
best defense in football, the best kicker in football, they

(21:22):
haven't lost, they've played one of the toughest schedules, but
it's boring to say, well, obviously they're better than everyone else.
So now it's a pure what's wrong with the Chiefs. Meanwhile,
every time the Ravens do anything, it's, oh my god,
is this the greatest offense we've ever seen? Even though
they lose a third of their games.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, that's not anti Chiefs as much as we want
a new story.

Speaker 11 (21:45):
Well, it's also, if I may, it's also, and I've
said this for I will say it again. Lamar Jackson
was so unfairly maligned at the beginning of his career
that now folks have an allergy to treating him the
way we treat Aaron Judge, which same guy, unbelievable, remarkable,
historic regular season player who it's not that he's not

(22:07):
the same in the playoffs every single year, he is
his absolute worst in the playoffs. Every athlete of my
lifetime that has fit that profile is treated with heavy,
heavy skepticism, except for Lamar. And I think it's because
you know what, I blame Bill Pollion, I blame Pollyon.
I think because Bill Pollion said he was supposed to

(22:29):
be a wide receiver. Everyone since then is still reacting,
is still reacting to that.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He's Nick Wright host First Things First on Fox Sports One.
Also What's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube wherever you
get your podcast. We've talked about this before, where sometimes
we'll look at what you do or don't do in
the postseason and that affects how people view you in
the regular season when it comes to awards. Like Lamar Jackson,
I don't know if there is a hangover for what

(22:55):
happened last year in the postseason of the previous year,
You're going to give him an MVP again this year?
And is that fair? Joker Yannis, You know, you win
a title and all of a sudden, then you know
there's hands off Joel Embiid gave him an MVP and
then he doesn't act like an MVP in the postseason.
Do you think that what Lamar doesn't do in the

(23:16):
postseason is going to hurt him for the MVP this year.

Speaker 11 (23:21):
Not enough for him not to win it with it?
Because right like this, the way I look at it
is Brew on the show says this, and he's right.
You almost look at the MVP race as one hundred
meters dash or whatever, or call it a sixteen hundred
meters or whatever. But it's staggered starts, and it's staggered
starts based on how many times you've won, how you've

(23:43):
responded in the postseason, if you're a legend, how long
it's been since you've won, et cetera. So I think
Lamar started in last place before this year. He had
everything working against him narrative wise, he had just won it.
He's never played well in the postseason. You know, the
two big factors. But he's not only made up the stagger.

(24:03):
He's now running away from the field, and so I
do think it impacts it, but I don't think it
disqualifies him. What is interesting as a thought exercise is
what if it plays out exactly the same. What if
a year from now, Lamar is now a three time
MVP back to back and just had a record breaking

(24:24):
regular season and then fell on his face in the playoffs,
and next year at Week ten he's got twenty five touchdowns,
one interception, the Ravens have an even better record. At
some point, I do think either folks are going to
say we don't care that the award is losing some
luster or they're just going to say, ah, sorry, I

(24:46):
know we say it's a regular season award, but there's
an element of our own biases I guess that are
going to come into play. But I feel stronger about
the NFF, the NBA MVP and its historical resid than
the NFL MVP. The NBA MVP doesn't have a lot
of Sean Alexander season's Rich gannon season just doesn't. It's

(25:09):
really the who's who of the twenty five greatest players
ever with a couple Oh, Steve Nash winning a second
was weird, you know that type of stuff. NFL MVP
is not that, so I don't. I'm not as emotionally
attached to it as I have been with other stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Bigger mess The Jets are the Cowboys?

Speaker 11 (25:28):
Well, what a question? The Cowboys are more hopeless, amazingly
because there's there's no way to get out of this.
The Jets. The Jets were the most predictable mess in
the world, and as embarrassed as Aaron Rodgers should be,
I got a whole lot of a whole lot of
folks that are on that elite media group chat that

(25:51):
you're on that I'm not should be real embarrassed with
some of those Jets takes before the year. But the Jets.
Here's thing, I don't you know. We're not gonna get
political on this show, but I will talk about one
of the after effects of last Tuesday in this country.
Woody Johnson might be going abroad again and the Jets
might have a real chance of a true reset. Woody

(26:13):
out because he's gonna be ambassadored somewhere. I'm sure he'll
do a wonderful job. Chris Johnson taking over. Tell Aaron
Rodgers to go home. You build around Quinn Williams, who's awesome,
Sauce who's having a really rough year and I think
could go in the wrong direction, but is a great player,
your young players, and blow everyone out. New GM obviously

(26:36):
new coaching staff, new use your top five pick you're
gonna have on a quarterback, and go fresh start The Cowboys.
The Cowboys had such an opportunity to do something cutting edge.
If they would have just held the line on deck,
you know what, screw it. We are going to have
this be lame duck years for everyone. And had they
done that, I don't think their fans would be bummed

(26:58):
about this year. They'd be like, hey, you know, lose
as many games as you can, draft a quarterback reset
around your young quarterback Ceedee Lamb Micah. Instead, they signed
Dak at the last minute, and now they're locked into
this mediocre ish roster. Win healthy, They're gonna have a
new head coach, and Jerry has lost the plot. I mean,

(27:21):
I don't the again, not to get political, but the
Cowboys don't have a Kamala Harris to replace him with,
and I know that didn't up working out, But like
Jerry is, Jerry is fighting old wars and losing them,
and so that's a if I'm a Cowboys fan, this
is probably the most down I've been. I thought they'd
be good this year. I don't think they'd be great,

(27:42):
but I'm like, they're the Cowboys with Dak. They win ten, eleven,
twelve games every year. I know Dak's hurt, but they
weren't gonna win that even if Dak had stayed healthy.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
More embarrassing my take on the Jets to start the year,
or your take a few years ago on Joker winning MVPs.

Speaker 11 (27:58):
Okay, So, first of all, my Joker was not wrong.
Second of all, I didn't know you.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Called in one of the worst MVPs ever did well.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
I said after his first MVP, he was the worst
MVP since Dave Cowens. But again, people have a very
hard time understanding scale. If we get the thirty richest
people in the room and I say you're the poorest,
You're still rich. You're just the poorest of those guys. Now,
you know, was he at that time, you know, the
third worst MVP since Stave Cowen? Should I add him?

(28:28):
Added Derrick Rose? Fine, whatever. My other joker MVP take
was that I just want him to go on a
legendary playoff run before he wins all the MVPs. He did,
and now he can win all the MVPs. I am
consistent on this. The Jets thing. I didn't realize you
were one of the people believing in the Jets. It's
so baffling to me, Like, at its core, you have

(28:51):
a forty year old somewhat interested in football, potential drug
abuser at quarterback who just came off of torn Achilles
with the worst coaching staff in football in what world
is like, Well, that's twelve wins.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just I never see seven games with Zach said everybody,
they have a good defense, They had skill position, and
I thought Rogers Rogers could be a difference of two wins,
maybe three wins. I thought that.

Speaker 11 (29:23):
Ebody says they have. So here's the thing, this is
what frustrates me. The Jets had league average skill position.
Guys league average. People like Garrett Wilson's amazing line up
the receivers in this league one through twenty, and tell
me where Garrett Wilson comes in. The answer is gonna
be somewhere between ten and fifteen, which means about half
the league as a receiver as good as Garrett Wilson.

(29:45):
People love bres Hall. No one's ever loved a running
back who's never had a thousand yards in a season
more than they love Bresee Hall. So and then there's Rogers,
who was not good as last year in Green Bay.
So I just think it was a I think people
wanted the Jets to be good. But the other piece
of it that I didn't understand why people wouldn't do
is part of when we're talking about the Chiefs Emon

(30:06):
and malomes is playing poorly, We're like, man, he is
such a leader, and in this league that matters so much.
Nobody did seem to care about the fact Aaron Rodgers,
by any objective measure, is one of the worst leaders
in sports, and that that was going to have knock
on effects. So I didn't mean to take a shot
at you. It was really a shot at Greenberg. I'll

(30:28):
be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Bones, I'm not wearing it. I'm not wearing a jersey
or anything. Well, I don't know what.

Speaker 9 (30:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (30:33):
I see green under that sweatshirt you're wearing. I'm not
sure what's there that? Sure you look great? Oh wow,
what a T shirt? Is that great? Is that junior?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah? All of a sudden things just changed a little
bit there, didn't they. Yeah? Yeah, ten percent off there. Yeah,
you're right about Rogers. Rogers forgot what it's like to
be a leader when you don't play well where you
can follow me the way I play. Now you have
to actually have a voice. Now, you actually have to
lead by telling people and you know, regrouping people like

(31:06):
Michah Parsons in Dallas. Be a leader.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Be a leader.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, don't be a podcaster. Don't be Draymond Green be
a leader. Stand up, you know.

Speaker 11 (31:15):
I So can we talk Micah for a minute. I
don't know how much time with you.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
I so I just turned forty, and I found that
while my actual politics didn't get more conservative, my sports
politics did. I'm like a big run the ball guy.
I told you this, Now punt on fourth down. I
also am way more annoyed by these young kids that

(31:41):
haven't learned to win that are doing podcasts. And I
really hate the person I'm becoming, but I'm kind of
embracing it. I obviously do not believe shut up and dribble.
I think it's an abhorrent stance. I actually have maybe
the hottest Micah Parsons podcast, Take imaginable. I'm fine with

(32:02):
you doing the podcast. It just can't be about football.
It has to be about things other than football. Exactly
the opposite of shut up and dribble. You talk about
anything you want except football. Stop ranking quarterbacks and leaving
Dac out or then putting back in at the bottom.
Stop talking about schemes and other players like do the podcast.

(32:25):
It's fine, but it can't be in the NFL. It
can't be about football. And I and I also think
him doing the Draymond thing of oh you guys misinterpreted me.
Get the real story on the edge with like, man,
I'm sure bleed your report pays well, and God bless him.
But to quote second time Lebron James, let's keep the

(32:48):
main thing the main thing. Let's focus on the main
thing that allows for these other things to exist. Oh
you too. I have one last question the how do
you stay tanned? Because my wife this morning turned to
me and said, you look quote, you look like a
vampire and it's the winter, and I don't know what

(33:09):
I'm gonna do, and you always look just wonderful.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I would leave the house occasionally if I were you, like,
just get outside, walk around your sports to watch. I
was just walk around New York. Okay, the sun's been
out for the last month. There hadn't been any rain there.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
Nick, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Just get down good, Okay, do some exercise and I do.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
I do exercise every day, but I do it inside
my house.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You get out, do some yoga outside or something.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
Flip side is if I spent so much time outside
instead of watching football replays, I might have been as
wrong about the Jets as you dopes. See you Dan?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Wow? Where did that come from? So harsh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Hung up?

Speaker 8 (33:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Soft? Take take shots at.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Dan day checking the calendar.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Nick Wright, host of First Things First, Unfoxible. It's one
What's Right with Nick? Right on YouTube wherever you get
your podcast? Okay, yeah, November twelfth.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Take a shot of Dan's Day's right?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
There is it?

Speaker 6 (34:07):
I just looked it up.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Thank you to thank you, Todd. Take a break, last
call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio
app Seaton.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Final results of the poll questions today, Yeah, we got
a couple of them here for you.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
If the money were the same and the jobs are open,
would you rather coach the Bears, Jets or Saints?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
The Bears have fifty three percent of the vote, followed
by the Saints. Nobody wants to coach the Jets. Yeah,
they're at five percent. Yeah, very low. I don't couldn't
see that happening. I don't think you're going to attract
a big time coach to want to do that. Then
we also have do you like your NFL games? Starting
at nine thirty am Eastern and sixty one percent of

(34:59):
the audience say though.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, Dave and San Antonio, Good morning Dave. What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 9 (35:05):
Say Dan?

Speaker 12 (35:07):
Olah, go on, stops, I'm back. My mom used to
say back in the day, boy, if you don't stop
jumping on my couch and flipping on my couch, I'm
gonna beat your butt. But she also used to say,
you know what, you're a trendsetter, Dave, and I like
to see Dan that you're talking about the calves. You're

(35:28):
coming around.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Finally, I was on the calves long ago. Stop Dave, Dave, Dave, Dad.

Speaker 12 (35:38):
I want I want to say that I will come
down when they win the finals and and put my
pie in your face, in Marvin's face on the studio
on a meet Friday, if you guys will have me.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
No, I don't want to have you. Why do I
want you to come here? I'll make a bet with
you guys.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Okay, and in regardless of the how about that, I
come into the studio hang with you guys for a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's my penalty. Yeah, I'm not jumping on I gave
you the Cavs a couple of years ago. All right,
jumping on him now? Ah, look who doubled down. Jerry
Jones did it. He did his weekly interview on one
five point three the fan in Dallas, and he talked
about the sunshine.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Every venue has certain things that at certain ways and
times and the contests can create an advantage that really
goes on the category of home field advantage. And so usually,
and that's the case with us, that if there's a

(36:47):
field or in the case it's your home field, which
it is of the Dallas Cowboys, it should be an
advantage to the home team. So I don't want to
adjust it. For one reason is because it is an
advantage to us.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
He just he just can't take the l just say hey,
it affected us normally, I think this affects the opposing team.
We plan accordingly. We did this strategically. It didn't work out.
CD lost the ball in the sun, okay, but he
is not going to admit that it hurt his team.

(37:29):
He made a mistake. You can pull the curtains on it.
Mike McCarthy had a press conference yesterday and the sun
was coming in and they put up something to block
the sun so he could do his press conference. You
can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 10 (37:45):
Yeah, Pauline, I lightly, lightly agree with him in theory
that the Cowboys should have an advantage because they're aware
of the sun more and where it goes. They don't
practice there every day, that's not the practice facility. Remember
years ago when Houston had little bump Houston Astros. Oh yeah,
in the outfield where it rose up. Yeah, but it
was detrimental for both team silly. I'm not sure how

(38:08):
much Craig Besche and the Boys got used to that.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
But in theory it should work.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
By it, I mean, you're not surprised when you go
in there as an opposing team. You don't go, I'll
be damn, there's sun sign coming in here. They know
that going in there, Yes, see it.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
He still doesn't understand the fundamental idea that your team
plays there nine times a season. The other team coming
in only plays there one time. It impacts your team
nine times as many, nine hundred times as many as
it does everybody else. So say it every other quarter.
Say you're going into the sun. Now, that's fifty percent
of nine games that your team can't see. What the

(38:45):
hell's going on? How does he not understand that this
day in sports history, Paul what do you have for me?

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Just one?

Speaker 10 (38:51):
Eighteen ninety two, William Pudge Heffelfinger became the first professional
football player when he was paid five hundred dollars bonus
for helping the Allegheny e Thought Association beat the Pittsburgh
I thought of club. Now he was an amateur. They
were going to pay him two hundred fifty dollars to
play in the game. He goes, Okay, but I want
an extra two fifty if we win. He scores the

(39:11):
only game, the game's only touchdown, and they did win
the game. It wasn't found out that he's the first
pro until fifteen years later, when it came out during
a report.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, judge Heffelfinger Pudge. Nineteen ninety Eagles coach Buddy Ryan
threatens to beat Washington so badly they'll have to be
carted off in body bags. Oh here's one. Twenty nineteen,
former Astros pitcher Mike Fires reveals the team secretly stole

(39:41):
signs from the visiting team from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. Ah,
that was a big deal. I thought, what happened in
Houston stays in Houston. Let's go around the room. If
we learned anything on the program, Todd, did you learn
anything today?

Speaker 11 (39:55):
I did?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
We all learn?

Speaker 5 (39:56):
You'll fast forward through parts of a movie that you
have never seen before you're done with OCD see it?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Nick Right knew the Jets were gonna stink. Uh, Paulie
in In is a sliding scale, Marvin Marvin, I'm a
Rose Brown sells Jerseys Todd, what did I learn on
today's program? We get the impression link. Kevin has not
quite embraced the portal king, Nicknam, Yeah, you didn't like that.
Did not seem to live what we learned. Brought to
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