June 4, 2025 • 41 mins
NHL Insider John Buccigross drops by to talk about Barry Melrose and Don Cherry and their Hall of Fame worthy contributions to the sport. And Robert “Big Shot Bob” Horry stops by to talk some roundball.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour on this Wednesday, we'll talk some hockey with
John Butcher Grosse, so the mother Ship and Robert or
Laker analysts will stop by as well. DraftKings odds. Your
clubhouse favorite right now to be the new Knicks head coach,
subject to change. Michael Malone, who was with the Nuggets,
and then followed by Johnny Bryant assistant head coach with
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the Cavaliers, Jay Wrights on the list, Mike Budenholzer, Rick Brunson,
Jalen Bruns's dad, Many Williams.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You also have John Caliperi.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
These are long shots here, John Keller, Perry, Dan Hurley,
Jeff Van Gundy. I threw out Rick Pattino because Rick
would be up for the challenge. He certainly seemed very
energetic with Saint John's this year, but that's a whole
lot longer season with the NBA eight seven seven three
DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle at DP show. Poll question for the final hour
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of the pro is going to be what seeden we
got two up there right now? The Knicks are nuts
or a gutsy right now? Eighty seven percent of the
audience think they're nuts, and.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We also put up there this decision by the Knicks
will be legendary or cost people jobs. Ninety two percent
of the audience say people are getting.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Fired over this.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I would like to see the front office get in
front of a microphone and just explain what they did.
I think that Nick fans are owed that. I also
think that well, Tom Thibodeau was probably told why he
was being fired. I'm going to guess, but I think
Nick fans deserve answers like why are you moving on
from a coach who had felt like overachieved or help
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you overachieve to get to the Eastern Conference finals and
maybe that maybe that happens when their next head coach
is sworn in. But I think the media should be
able to ask the front office. Maybe not ownership because
Jim Nolan Jim Dolan's not going to get in front
of a microphone, but Leon Rose, who runs the team,
their president of basketball operations, should be there talking to
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the media.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, it is interesting to think that they knew they
were going to fire him even before the playoffs started,
and the more he just kept going and all of
a sudden, teams are like, oh god, we're never going
to be able to fire this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, because when you think about it, you're like, we're
not going to get by Boston, right, or we won't
get by Cleveland way, and then all of a sudden
you get by Boston and then all of a sudden,
Cleveland is injured, and now you're playing Indiana and you're like,
oh my god, we could get to the NBA finals
and we may not still want him as our head coach,
all right, eight seven to seven three, DP show email
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Speaker 3 (02:39):
At DP show.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mentioned this to start the show, that John Buchigras,
who was I was a teammate of at the Mothership,
calling for Don Cherry and Barry Melrose to be elected
to the Hockey Hall of Fame when we found out
that Barry was diagnosed with Parkinson's. I said that on
the show that let's wave whatever you need to wave,
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you know, put him in while he could still be
able to go and enjoy the moment with his family,
have a speech there. I didn't realize Don Cherry was
not in the Hockey Hall of Fame, and he was
hockey certainly Hockey Night in Canada. But Johnny Butcher Grosz
my hockey guy joining us now, Butch, good to talk
to you. Thank you for us saying what you said.
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Obviously it has more weight when you say it in
the hockey community. But what would be the hold up
to put both of these men in the Hockey Hall
of Fame?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Well, just adding a sentence to the criteria, Dan, right now,
the criteria there's a category for sports writers and for
play by play guys.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And that was my point.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
You could change this with eleven words or less, play
by play or analyst, whatever word you want to use.
And obviously Don Cherry and Barry Melrose for thirty years
were the biggest names in their countries in terms of broadcasters.
You know, Don Cherry was certainly John Madden, he was
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that kind of a level. And Barry I get emails
all the time. I grew up with the game in
America with Barry Melrose, and both of them went from
junior hockey to professional hockey, to coaching to broadcasting. Literally
gave their life to the game and to the sport.
And it seems just an easy sentence to get people
like that or even great hosts like Aron McLain from
Hockey Night in Canada and all the ones they have
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up there, and eventually as as the careers of somebody's
American analysts and broadcasters, you know Adie Olchuk and and
you know Ray Ferraro, there's there's no place for them.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And it seems like an easy ad. Yeah, I just
think contributions to the game. Other sports have that. Pro
football has contributions to the game, and and maybe you
could put it under that umbrella.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But I agree, how is Barry going?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
You know, you don't get better from Parkinson's dan, you know,
thankfully some people are curative cancer, but you don't get
cured of als or Parkinson's or dementia. So he's living
in Oxford, Ohio. That's where he met his wife, Cindy,
when he turned pro and played for the Cincinnati Stingers.
She was a cheerleader on the team. She grew up
in Oxford, rural Oxford, where Miami University is located, and
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they decided to move there from Florida to there where
they had been living to get some support. Her family
is still there. It's difficult, but Barry's watching the games.
I texted Cindy Melrose yesterday and said, can you get
me a Bery prediction for the finals. And of course,
in true Barry fashion, every year it was somebody in six.
He never said five, never said seven. So Barry's got
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the oilers in six, man, what do you have? I
have the oilers in seven, thinking. I'm sure they're thinking.
We fell to this team three to zero last year
and almost won four games in a row. We're better
this year. We have home ice this year, We're gonna
get off to a better start this year. We're gonna
treat one game one tonight like game seven, because you
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want to play ahead. You don't want to be down
one to Pedro Martinez if you have a chance an
so you want to be up one to oh And
they're probably they're the underdog by a smidch, but they
have the greatest player of their generation. They have another
great Hall of Famer to be in Leon dry Sidle.
They have a little more death. The Zach Hyman injury hurts,
but overall they're so good on home ice, they have
the best player, and as we know Dan, when their
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backs are kind of up against a cliff, up against
an ocean and an army never fights harder than when
their backs up against a cliff or an ocean. This
team is gonna get in the cap hell fast. They
have no young players coming. It's almost a do or
die year. Dry Settle gets a five million dollar raise,
Bouchard gets a five million dollar raise.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Next year.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Mcdavi's gonna need about an eight million dollar raise after
next year he's a UFA. This will be the summer
of his extension. So they sense that, I think, And
that's why, even though Florida is the best complete team,
and maybe they're constructed as the perfect team and maybe
they're gonna win, but I just don't think from a
they don't quite have that desperation that that Edmonton you
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can't manufacture.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Then, But also you're carrying the country too. I mean,
it's a long long time and I don't think we
can overstate the pressure that goes with caring. Not everybody's
rooting for Edmonton, I'm sure, as in other provinces, but
still you want Canada to bring home the Cup.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
The last time they won.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It, Barry Melrose was the other coach to bring it
back to Barring nineteen ninety three. So you're right, that's
a good point. It's been thirty two years, and you're right,
it's not quite Toronto or Montreal doing it because obviously
the big metropolitan areas that they're from, and you maybe
feel it more like the Cubs Red Sox ending their droughts.
But still I think Canada would come together. McDavid scored
the overtime winner in the Four Nations Otherwise it would
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have been an amazing year for USA Hockey. World Junior
just won the World Championship for the first time really,
so that was a big moment for McDavid to win that.
That was his first best on best, so he hasn't
won a trophy, a team trophy before that. So since
he was like sixteen, the guy, you know, it's just
going back to June for the eerie otters, so it's
time for.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Him to win.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You look at every great iconic NHL player, Dan I
looked at the top twenty scores last night. Only three
don't have a cup. You know, Marcel Dion great player.
These guys are all great players, but not quite that
iconic player. Joe Thornton, Adam Oates, all the others they
got their cup. It doesn't it's not there's no or
any banks in the NHL, you know, no Dan Marino,
they get it. But he's twenty eight, about to turn
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twenty nine, and it's only going to get harder, like
I said at Edmonton, So there is a bit of
a fun sports story desperation to it for me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, that's I was going to bring that up that
in the NBA and other sports, certainly quarterbacks, when are
you going to win your title? You get to a
certain point like Luka Doncic he's there, Yeah, Joker was there,
he won a title. Giannis was there, he won a title.
Embiid got an MVP. He's not going to win a title.
Jason Tatum won a title. Once you win the title,
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then we move on to the next guy. It's like, right,
Colin Montgomery, you know, the best player to never win
a major. Yeah, you know, keep waiting for these guys.
And then I wondered with you know, everybody says Conor
McDavid's best player in the world, Well, the best players
in the world win championships.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Exactly, and he might go down as the greatest talent ever.
And so that again, it just doesn't happen in the
sport There were six teams forever. Then there were twelve
and there were sixteen, so people got around, they got
their championship. But for him to be the greatest player
in his sport, the most talented, that would be something.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So it's something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
John Butcher graz ESPN Hockey play by play and host
a sports center anchor.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You've been there since what ninety six?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Yeah, October twenty eighth, nineteen ninety six. We did one
sports center together. I know you don't remember it, but
I do. It was a six o'clock sports center. I
was probably nervous doing three sports centers in my life.
My first, which was was Stuart Scott Grammy Night, nineteen
ninety seven. I'll never forget it. So my love of
music's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
It fall.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It fell on that date, and I did a six
o'clock with you, and I can't even think of the
third time.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I was nervous, but that was a big deal to me.
I told this story.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You were there playing basketball with us, Yes, when we
had these SportsCenter anchors, ESPN news anchors, and we're all
playing in a place called the Canton, Connecticut, the YMCA,
and these guys were trying to get me to go
out forever and play, and I said, nope, nope, I
didn't you know, if you let me run up and
down and sweat a little bit, I don't want somebody
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picking me up full court. So what happens Yep, Stuart
Scott picks me up full court to start the game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
M h.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And it didn't go well after that, because then it
got worse, it did. It got really.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I remember this like.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
It was yesterday. I'm like thirty one years old. I
just got there week. We played our pickup. I had
Steve Berthume. I was smart.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I knew who to card. I'm going to check.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Berth You.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Say, allowed on my little frist.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And so we cleared the court and then you and
Stuart proceeded to play one on one. It is the
most violent one on one situation and I've ever seen
on a basketball court. It was Stuart wanted it more
than you, Dan. He did obviously he.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Was bodying me forearm and then I finally it was
I talked to Jason Jackson about this occasionally. He laughs
because he said, people don't believe me when I tell
that story. And I said to Stuart, I looked him
right in the eye and I said, where do you
want me to bleep and score on you? I'm dribbling
with my left hand, and I was so I'd like, God,
(11:29):
this is the last thing I wanted to do, exactly
be competitive with all of the other co anchors there and.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Turn an ankle, then you can't golf. That was my
reason why I retire. I don't want to turn an
ankle and up be able to golf.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, Stuart undercut me, yes, and I ended up going
to the emergency room for a chip vertebrae. I still
had to do Sports Center that night. Yes, always and
and Bouyon never apologize, never never. It was a flagrant too.
I can't believe how competitive we were. Man, that's like
(12:02):
a different person. I'm just not that person anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's it was sad. It was sad. It was I
was like, what am I doing? I'm better than this?
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm going against Chuck Garfine, I mean what am I doing?
I'm better than this? Right, I'm better than this? Yeah, last,
I'm going to lock up Revsen. I am rever great
to talk to you, John. I hope you're doing well.
I hope you have a great series. Shut out Morango.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
My buddy goodie watching high school basketball teammate loves Stan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Thank you, Bud, John Butcher gross ESPN Hockey play by
play and by the way, good shooter, really good golfer.
Can't play a defense. He might have been the Karl
Anthony towns out there. Uh boh, rest in peace. Now
they're doing a documentary or a thirty for thirty on Stuart,
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and they wanted me to tell the story. I didn't
get along with Stuart. We didn't get along. Then you know,
there was competent. We respected each other, but there was
real competition in the building. And you know, but you're
professional when you're on Sports Center. I mean, we respected
each other, but there was a competition more from him
towards me than it was you know, me towards him.
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And I just you know, they wanted me to tell
that story in the documentary, and I go, I don't
want to tell the story than somebody else was there.
They can tell the story. It's even better if somebody
else tells the story, just like John. They basically it
was five on five. They just it became one on one.
I just said, clear out, Get everybody out of the way.
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I'm taking Stuart off the dribble. Yes, Ton, wasn't there.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
A story once told about he had a contact situation
and you got to read in the obviously the lingo
that he writes sports Center, which is very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So they're rolling the music.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Internet Internet and then Stewart puts a drop in his
eyes and his contact comes out, so all of a sudden,
and then Stewart gets up. I have my copy that
I'm going to read on camera. I have Stewart's copy now,
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because this is the first fifteen he's not there.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
We started. It's a Sunday night Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, I had to read how he writes, so, you know,
can I get a witness from the congregation cooler than
the other side of the pillow? Oooh yeah, I mean
Lucretia And I'm I'm doing all of these. I do
the entire first fifteen minutes. I'm doing my highlights, his highlights.
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And then he comes in and doesn't say a word.
He just sits down and we do the rest of
the Sports Center and then we had to go back
when the show was over and redo the entire a
block as they call it, He never ever said hey,
sorry about that. It was just we didn't have a
good relationship. I think he wanted the eleven o'clock. I
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think he wanted to do the NBA. You know so,
and I got it, but you don't want to compete
with me. It's not gonna it doesn't bring out good,
that's for sure, not good at all. And it didn't,
and you know, it's unfortunate. But towards the end of
his life, we tried to get him on when he
went out to the SPS and I, you know, I
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said to pr at ESPN and I didn't have a
good relationship with them at the time, and I said, hey,
I want to have Stewart on what he did that
is all time went cross country. They didn't think he'd
be able to make it physically, but you know, you
want to talk about when you look at somebody and
you're proud of who they are and what they did,
(15:53):
how they did it, and he fought. You know, I
always had and always will have great respect and his
ex wife wonderful, wonderful, wonderful people. His daughter is extremely talented,
very bright, and he was just we were two competitive
guys and till the end till the very end. But
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I wanted him and he I think he said no,
but he he wanted Fritzy to tell me that he
knocked me on my ass.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, and I'm like, great, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good with that? All right, We'll take a break. When
we come back, we'll talk to Robert Rory more of
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was in the highlight, I always thought of this song
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Did you ever meet Prince.
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I made him once and I was like saying that
I was a huge fan and it was amazing because
he's not a favorite artist for a long.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Time and a big basketball fan.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yes, he used to come in to two of the.
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you know. And it's just weird that you say that
it was in high school. They used to be a
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Hold on for a second, I want to make sure
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Robert Dorry, sure with Dan we have two of them
up there right now. The Knicks are gutsier nuts Right now,
eighty eight percent of the audience have them as nuts.
And even worse than that, this decision the Knicks will
be legendary or cost people their jobs as a ninety
(19:02):
three percent, that's a punishing result.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, I still think now.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Vincent Goodwill, who covers the sport for ya who's sports,
said last hour he doesn't think the Knicks have picked
their guy. It's like the best time to find a
job is when you have a job another job. I
just think the best time to be if you're going
to fire your coaches, you know who you're going to hire.
I don't know if you just fire somebody and then
say now we begin our job search. I don't believe
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that for a second, but it still goes back to
what we talked about. You signed him to this contract
extension last July and you gave him one year with
Karl Anthony Towns. I think that he may have won
more than you thought he was going to. Therefore it
made it a little bit more challenging to fire him
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or the Optics is really bad because you went to
the Eastern Conference Finals. I think that was my takeaway
from this is, you know, you beat a Celtic, you
get by the Celtics, and I don't think anybody thought
that was going to happen, But it happened because Jason
Tatum got hurt, and as Seaton says, you know, he
may have overachieved here that you're not expected to be Cleveland,
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not expected to beat Boston. You end up going to
the Eastern Conference Finals, and if anything, it should be
applauded that you got here with this team that you
probably didn't think he was going to get by Boston.
To begin with eight seven to seven to three DP
show email ADDRESSDP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a
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TP show Jeremy and Minnesota I Jeremy what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call first time, long
time back to the dib In show Killer Days. So,
dan say's my birthday and I surely share it with Angelina,
Joe Leek and Russell brand same day, same month, same year.
(21:00):
So I'm hoping we could with everybody who was born
on June fourth, nineteen seventy five, a happy birthday as
we enter our fifties. But before that, I want to
say that sausage off favorite segment ever and it holds
up after nine years. And also, once upon a time
you asked listeners, which Danette, we'd want to raise our kids,
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I'd say it's either Seaton or Marvin Paul. He's great,
but my kids are Cardinals fans, so they can't grow
up in a Cubs home. And for Fritzy, they wouldn't
want to learn about seventies and eighty sports teams.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
All right? Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
How about a birthday shout out to Jeremy and Angelina,
jolee Oh, and Russell Brant. Let's bring back Robert or
let's see if that connection is a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Your reaction when you heard that the Knicks had fired
Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 12 (21:57):
I was shot because if you look at what Tom
Thibodau that has done for that team, getting them back
to the Eastern Conference finals, having a lot of things
that go on with that team, and for them to
fire him and such a might have to get into
the East company, I was. I was just shocked because
if you really think about it, and if you look
at the rossa of the Knicks, they overachieved. To me,
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you know, they they were overachieved. They got a lot
of guys that role players playing very well in Thibodau's system.
So I think that's one of the things you have
to look at. And sometimes people get confused. So we
just beat the NBA champions, Yeah, you beat them, but
you still got other teams that can play. And the Pacers,
let's be honest, they've coached very well and they've played
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better than anybody. So I think they should have ran
it back. But it's gonna be hard to find someone
to come in and and and step in his shoes.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Though, Do you have to like your head coach.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I've never liked any of my head coach.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
No. Actually, you know, it's so weird that a lot
of people think you have to like your head coaches.
I said, as long as the coach is doing a
good job, I don't think you have to like him,
but I think that has to have some type of
respect there. And if they player at the coach doesn't
respect the players, I don't think the players are gonna
respect the coach. And I think with this day and age,
the way players and coaches communicate, you know, you should
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step up and and have that opportunity to say, yo, coach,
I don't you know.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
This is how I feel about certain situations.
Speaker 12 (23:24):
And I don't know anything about any of those players
that they had. I don't know if anybody has the
you know, the man, I won't say the balls to
step in and say, yo, tip, you know we're playing
too many minutes of this and if tims will listening.
But I think it most of the time, I make
all that fall on the assistant coaches, because assistant coaches
are the ones that need to step in and grab
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the head coach by the ear and make them listen
to them, because the assistant coaches are closer to the
players than the coaches to the players.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did you like Phil Jackson?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I love Phil Jackson. I loved I actually loved all
my coaches. Love I love Rudy first, then up and
Field was second.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But Pop likes to yell at yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
So here's a funny story about Pop never yelled at me.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
He yelled at me once and everybody looked at him
and he was like, oh, I'm not supposed to yell
at Rober Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I forgot.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Why is he not allowed to yell at you?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
For some odd reason, there was a rumor going around
that you cannot yell at me. You yell at me,
you lose me, which is not true because you got
to think about my high school coach was a yeller.
Sanderson was definitely a yelling and so I'm like, I
don't mind yelling. I might tune you out, but you
can yell at me.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You never wanted to fight a coach, though.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
No, you know that's my that's my former college teammates
s free Well. I never did anything that you know.
You know, here's the thing about you know, in coaches,
I think I've always been you ever get into it? No, man,
you know, I'm the greatest guy ever.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Man. Everybody loves me. Man, teammate, I think about this.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
I sacrificed more than any player in the world for
his team to win, even in college un let spreeing Jane.
You know I got to you know, I got to
the Rockets. I let Dream do his thing and get
to the Lakers. Koche shot. Do you a thing I
sacrificed for you, guys, because at the end of the day,
it's about winning.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
It's about winning.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How many plays were run specifically for you in your career.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I only had plays run for me when I was
with the Rockets.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
Once I got to you know, I think it was
one time when I was in the Lakers uniform I
had plays ran from that was when I set a
record for most threes made consectly in the game and
I was hot, so he rans some plays for me
then and I was ran by I think Dale Harris
was the coach.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Then maybe yeah, that's the only time in the last time.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
You know, Pop never ran plays for me, even when
I was hot in two thousand and five in that finals,
he didn't run place with me. Then I'm like, hey,
because I'm you know, I'm the Uther sacrifice man. You know,
the most important thing is winning, and I never cared
about my stats it's about getting.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That dub how upset was a team. When David Robinson
won the league MVP, he was.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
Beyond upset, you know. And it's weird because he was
not a big talker. And when he said that's my trophy,
you know, back then, and he came out and pulled
out some moves on David Robinson I'd never seen before.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It was amazing, that dream shake.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know.
Speaker 12 (26:13):
You think about the footwork and his ability to get
guys to be in a popcorn machine and get them
off their feet. He was just fantastic man. You know,
one of the greatest players I ever played with.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Didn't he smack Vernon Maxwell? Did he smack Vernon?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Do you know that happened a year before I got out?
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Okay, you know, I'm that calm that comes in and
calms everybody down, so there's no smacking of people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Then would Kobe be able to play?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And obviously with the talent, but you know, he was
kind of a bully like you had, like Michael Jordan,
like you got to keep up with me.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Would that work in today's NBA with these players?
Speaker 12 (26:52):
I think it would because you think about it. If
you come to a team and this is how it's done.
You kind of fall into that mold culture. You know,
you might have a couple of guys that might not
fall in line, but if you winning, you know, that's
the bottom line, you know. And you think about you
look at all the cultures that you have that are
created on each team. You think about the OKC culture,
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how they're like, oh, we're gonna have each other's back regardless.
You think about the Indiana's culture, we're gonna play team
nobody's bigger than the ABC A D. And you think
about the culture in New York or so this is
it's only these six guys are going to play and
that's it. I think you become you adapt to it.
And I think a lot of guys when you come
into organization that let you be a little bit more free,
that's when you're not able to adapt because this is
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all you know. You have blinders on and say, oh
this is we didn't.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Do this here, we didn't do this there.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
So I think they'd be fine, especially when you Kobe,
you know, he's a leader, he's gonna make you, you know,
follow fallow total.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I think he'd been fine.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You think he could have could have gotten a hundred
points in again.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
No, No, I think eighty one was just stressing one
hundred points because it gets to a point where you know,
you gotta miss some size and guys get ye.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
It's like yo, man, I know you scoring them, but
let me get some love too. But I don't.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
I don't think you would have been if it went
into overtime. He probably could have.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, but you don't want to interrupt his flow if
you if he's got like seventy something, you don't go, hey,
come on, how about I get a shot or something? What?
Speaker 12 (28:18):
No, But after a while you think, if I'm the coach,
that's the historical thing that's about to happen.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Right, it ain't happening on my watch.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
We're gonna triple team him as soon as he You're
gonna have some guy face guard him, don't let him care.
So you you know, think nobody ever wants to have
a historical mark like that selling it because you can
be in a trivia question, who was the head coach?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, allowed Kobe Bryant to have one hundred points? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Robert Or, a Lakers analyst for Spectrum Sportsnet, seven time
NBA champ, All right, what would you do if you're
the Lakers in the off season. What's the one thing
that has to happen.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
They of course, they got to get some size. I
think that's the biggest key. I gotta get some size.
And then they got to get you know, some people
behind that bench to grab JJ and say, Yo, this
ain't working. And I think a lot of times we
look at the head coach and we blame him for
some things, and we blame the players and things, but
I blame him. Always blame the assistant coaches because assistant
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coaches need to have the coach's ear and they see
things that the head coach don't see sometimes and like, Yo,
this ain't working.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
We need need to do this and that. And I
think that's the main key. You know.
Speaker 12 (29:27):
I love the coaching staff that they have, but it's
JJ willing to, you know, listen to his staff and
trust his staff, because sometimes when you come in as
a new coach, you say, oh God, I.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Gotta do it my way. I gotta do it this
way because I'm the head coach. I need to do this.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
And I think sometimes it takes a village, you know,
instead of you know, a guy saying, oh I need
to do this way because my head is on the line.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, but how should Luca take that? Hey, you're fat,
you're overweight. And people now say this openly as opposed
to maybe somebody said it to him privately.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And I don't know him, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't know what would motivate him because it feels
like people are embarrassing him by saying this.
Speaker 12 (30:10):
Yeah, and it's so weird that people talk about his weight,
but yet he's still giving people thirty points. I don't
I tell people I don't care about his weight. You
need to get him in the gym and teach him
how to play defense. You know, that's the thing, because
you can give someone forty points, but if you're giving
up thirty five on the other end, those forty points
don't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wait, you think that you could make Luca a good
defensive player?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yes, you can, you.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Know, because it's about wanting to.
Speaker 12 (30:36):
You know, he's never had to because he's always had
people behind him near racist mistakes you think about now,
there was no ad, no center, nobody, racist mistakes in
LA He getting blown by you know, they getting layups. Yeah,
you know, if you watch stretches of games where Luca's
just stayed in front because he's a big body. He
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the defenders that I mean, officer puts are bouncing off him.
Stay in front, and I think that is the key.
And I think also he needs to want to play
defense because so many times he.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Saves his energy for the offensive end.
Speaker 12 (31:10):
I tell people all that if you can move your
feet and get past and blow by people, that means
you have some fast twitch muscles, you can move pretty fast.
So there's no reason you cannot play better defense on
the other end. It's just you just gotta want to,
and I don't think I think a lot of times
he doesn't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
He rather just point.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, that means that you think Karl Anthony Towns could
be an adequate defender.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
I think with Carl, you know, people always talk about
lucas in shape. You know, if you look at Carr
and I think he could get in better shape. You know,
he's very top heavy, and I think he could get
in better shape. And he can, you know, even though
he has some big dogs anywhere it's like what size
twenty one shoe, But I think he can move his
feet because if you watch him offense, he can move fast.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
You just gotta want to.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
And Carl Anthony's problem is his problem is he does
a lot of silly files and he had and he
you know, when he sets the screen, he's he puts
his hip out and things like that. He just has
to learn how to curttail those files and be more
streamlined with his movements and just be smarter. So I
think he'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Defensively, Okay, she's style. Yeah, like they lead with defense. Yes,
do you believe the defense still wins championships in the NBA?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Of course?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
And the thing about why if okay see wins this,
it's gonna you know, Negate all those people who go
out and he like, oh, threes are the way to win.
That's not Shake Gilger's game. He will do it three
every nine and then. But it's about getting buckets, and
Shake Gilgers knows how to get buckets. That's either from
the mid range or from the free throw line. But
on the flip side, you think about what Hartenstein and
Caruso and to me one of the best defensive players
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in the game lou Dort are doing for that team
is amazing. And and if you go back at the
history of the NBA. Even you go back to the
Splash Brothers and the way they shot three. They were
top five defensively, and so people sometimes forget, like, oh,
they get mesmerized by the offense. But these teams are
also good defensively and they can lock you down, you know,
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the Jalen Williams, they're very good. And if you look
at this team, there's usually somebody on the team that's,
you know, bad defensively.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
There's no one on Okay, see it's bad defensively.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
What are the posters behind you over your right shoulder.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
Those are posters of I had a guy that he
did a painting of every championship I have, and what
it is is it's a moment from each game.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I kind of I.
Speaker 12 (33:41):
So, I kind of it's kind of old minds to me.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Other players you played against? Those are those are all you?
Speaker 12 (33:53):
Okay, it's two Rockets, three Lakers, and two Spurs, and
it's like it's a three point shot and each one
has a part of.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I can walk over there and let you see him
if you like.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But so if you can, I know, you've got time
constraints here. So all right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
Kind of I got a guy named Opie Otist Dad
that have been known for like since I got in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So it is like okay, nixt.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Finals, Orlando's Finals, Pacers Finals of course, Sixers, New Jersey Pistons,
and in Cleveland, and each one has like the most
famous shot I made against Lakers. He does this thing
called ghosting where you can put like a little ghosting
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thing in it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So it's just me.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You earned it. I like you lost track of one
of the matchups there. You've won so many championships like oh,
New Jersey, Yeah, that was New Jersey.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
You always forget about the people you sweep, like you
know that team that had I forget the name of
that team.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Great to talk to you again as always, Robert.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Great to talk to you too, man. I appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's Robert Dory joining his courtesy of bet Online. I
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Speaker 3 (35:17):
Good for you many earn that you know.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
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Speaker 1 (35:28):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Last Call for phone calls, What we learn, What's in
store Tomorrow. Stat of the Day has been brought to
you by in Dy America, the official trading cards of
the program. Tom in North Carolina. Welcome back, Tom. What's
on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (35:52):
ADP, Happy belated anniversary.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Thank you Todd and I twenty three years yesterday.
Speaker 13 (36:00):
And said, I was wondering, I know Todd's favorite moment
was Tim Tebow in the Course of your life slash career.
Where does the Fritzy Anniversary rank in special moments in
your life?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I would say the sausage off was pretty impressive. Once again,
Todd is really funny when he's not trying to be funny,
and he wasn't trying to be funny, but he was
really funny that day. I think when we got him
on stage with Darius Rucker, that was pretty good. I
think when he was able to sing to John Oates
(36:35):
of Hall and Oates that was pretty cool. I think
cozying up snuggling up to Chrissy Tigan on a couch
was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I got him in a couple of movies.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Yes, Tom, I think the question was, unless I misheard,
you want to know in your personal life as far
as just as far as being on this planet, where
are twenty three year anniversary ranks in special moments.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
In your life?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
If I heard that right, it's supposed to just moments
over the Dan Patrick years.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Oh no, it doesn't rank anywhere. Yeah, you should have
shut up and just let me give it moments. Yeah,
don't overstate our anniversary here, Okay.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I just want you to respond to the question accurate.
Speaker 14 (37:11):
So you weren't mentally debating the Fritzy anniversary and your
grandson being born this week is the best moment of
your week?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Those were?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
There wasn't a debate. Yeah, it's not a competition between
those two. Okay, kind of neck and neck if you
give it some extra thought. I did. I did. Wait,
let me give it a something I did. I did.
Scott and Louisville, Hi, Scott, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
First time, long time. You said you're getting close to
what we learned today, And I think something that we.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
All learned today is that you used to listen to
Jungle Love and think about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Robert or yes, yes, so yeah we all got live
with that now, Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I thought of Prince at Jungle Love and of course
Robert Dorry they all go together or E or EO
Jungle of.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Sometimes you listen to lyrics and you go, how do
they get that? Like where do you get that? Why
do you get that? Some lyrics and you just go, huh,
yes one.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I think that's the beauty about Prince.
Speaker 15 (38:22):
Morris to Day was basically Prince's alter ego because he
wrote all those songs from Moores Day in the time. Yeah,
like Prince would never say this, but Morris.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Day or Snad O'Connor, she'll sing this, I'm not going
to And you know you have the artist who hand
off song. Chris Stapleton said he's probably written a thousand
songs in his life, but he would hand him out
to people. He wrote one for Darius Rucker, he won't
(38:50):
He wrote one for Adele. He didn't even know who
Adele was. Remember when he won the four Grammys. We
had him on and uh, I said, I said, you
wrote a song for Dell and he goes, I didn't
even know who Adele was at the time, But you
just this ability to write these songs and not just lyrically,
because I don't know what would be harder. Like, you know,
(39:10):
you start a song like what is the beat? Like
what how do you start a song? That's that's the
amazing part for me, is there it is and then
I can fill in the lyrics. But to be able
to go okay that and then all of a sudden,
that's why Elton John and Bernie Taupin, you know, one
takes care of the music, one takes care of the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Amazing. Yes, Mark, you always.
Speaker 15 (39:34):
Hear, you know, people talking about songs and they were like,
I'm just playing this riff and somebody says.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Ooh that sounds good.
Speaker 15 (39:38):
You know, oh oh it's a little song called start
Me Up by Rolling Stones something like that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The number of artists who will say, yeah, I wrote
it in like fifteen minutes. I had it and then
it's gone, and so I have to I got up
in the middle of the night and you know, I
did a guitar riff. How does Springsteen have all these songs?
And mean, it's remarkable that you can come up with
the number of songs or the number of songs The
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Beatles did in an eight year period. It's just it's amazing.
But I do think you have a finite number of songs.
You know, it's not like Paul McCartney or you know
Ringo Star writing hits now but they did. You know
the Stones. You know they're still writing but recording, but
you're not coming up with those hit songs like they
used to. Yes, ud I love the genius.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Before there was phones and all the technology, you have
a pet and pencil next to the bed to write
down your dreams or all of a sudden, song lyrics
come into your head in the middle of the night
and you have a very small finite amount of time
to get it down so you don't forget it.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Having to have that by your bed where you can
just start writing stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 14 (40:44):
This Day Sports History Paul nineteen sixty four. Sandy kofex
through his third career no hitter nineteen seventy four. The
NFL granted the Seattle Seahawks franchise. Gordy Howe nineteen eighty
announced his retirement of hockey, and I just checked in
Morris Day in the time will be touring all summer.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Look it up.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
On this date in two thousand, the Lakers were down
fifteen in the fourth quarter beat the Blazers Game seven,
Western Conference Finals, Todd, would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Yeahoo's Benson Goodwill says the only way the Pacers can
win this series is to push the pace, play flowless
ball down the stretch, and Tyres has to be a monster.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Seatan, would you learn if you need some paintings done?
Robert Rory's got a guy, but he only paints Robert Lorry.
That's what Yeah, Marvin, how about you?
Speaker 15 (41:29):
Don Cherry is not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
All right, but he will be Paul Robert Rory as
a shrine. Thanks for your support. We'll try to be
better tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour on this Wednesday, we'll talk some hockey with
John Butcher Grosse, so the mother Ship and Robert or
Laker analysts will stop by as well. DraftKings odds. Your
clubhouse favorite right now to be the new Knicks head coach,
subject to change. Michael Malone, who was with the Nuggets,
and then followed by Johnny Bryant assistant head coach with
(00:27):
the Cavaliers, Jay Wrights on the list, Mike Budenholzer, Rick Brunson,
Jalen Bruns's dad, Many Williams.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You also have John Caliperi.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
These are long shots here, John Keller, Perry, Dan Hurley,
Jeff Van Gundy. I threw out Rick Pattino because Rick
would be up for the challenge. He certainly seemed very
energetic with Saint John's this year, but that's a whole
lot longer season with the NBA eight seven seven three
DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle at DP show. Poll question for the final hour
(00:59):
of the pro is going to be what seeden we
got two up there right now? The Knicks are nuts
or a gutsy right now? Eighty seven percent of the
audience think they're nuts, and.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We also put up there this decision by the Knicks
will be legendary or cost people jobs. Ninety two percent
of the audience say people are getting.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Fired over this.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I would like to see the front office get in
front of a microphone and just explain what they did.
I think that Nick fans are owed that. I also
think that well, Tom Thibodeau was probably told why he
was being fired. I'm going to guess, but I think
Nick fans deserve answers like why are you moving on
from a coach who had felt like overachieved or help
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you overachieve to get to the Eastern Conference finals and
maybe that maybe that happens when their next head coach
is sworn in. But I think the media should be
able to ask the front office. Maybe not ownership because
Jim Nolan Jim Dolan's not going to get in front
of a microphone, but Leon Rose, who runs the team,
their president of basketball operations, should be there talking to
(02:06):
the media.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, it is interesting to think that they knew they
were going to fire him even before the playoffs started,
and the more he just kept going and all of
a sudden, teams are like, oh god, we're never going
to be able to fire this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, because when you think about it, you're like, we're
not going to get by Boston, right, or we won't
get by Cleveland way, and then all of a sudden
you get by Boston and then all of a sudden,
Cleveland is injured, and now you're playing Indiana and you're like,
oh my god, we could get to the NBA finals
and we may not still want him as our head coach,
all right, eight seven to seven three, DP show email
address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
At DP show.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mentioned this to start the show, that John Buchigras,
who was I was a teammate of at the Mothership,
calling for Don Cherry and Barry Melrose to be elected
to the Hockey Hall of Fame when we found out
that Barry was diagnosed with Parkinson's. I said that on
the show that let's wave whatever you need to wave,
(03:01):
you know, put him in while he could still be
able to go and enjoy the moment with his family,
have a speech there. I didn't realize Don Cherry was
not in the Hockey Hall of Fame, and he was
hockey certainly Hockey Night in Canada. But Johnny Butcher Grosz
my hockey guy joining us now, Butch, good to talk
to you. Thank you for us saying what you said.
(03:22):
Obviously it has more weight when you say it in
the hockey community. But what would be the hold up
to put both of these men in the Hockey Hall
of Fame?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Well, just adding a sentence to the criteria, Dan, right now,
the criteria there's a category for sports writers and for
play by play guys.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And that was my point.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
You could change this with eleven words or less, play
by play or analyst, whatever word you want to use.
And obviously Don Cherry and Barry Melrose for thirty years
were the biggest names in their countries in terms of broadcasters.
You know, Don Cherry was certainly John Madden, he was
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that kind of a level. And Barry I get emails
all the time. I grew up with the game in
America with Barry Melrose, and both of them went from
junior hockey to professional hockey, to coaching to broadcasting. Literally
gave their life to the game and to the sport.
And it seems just an easy sentence to get people
like that or even great hosts like Aron McLain from
Hockey Night in Canada and all the ones they have
(04:26):
up there, and eventually as as the careers of somebody's
American analysts and broadcasters, you know Adie Olchuk and and
you know Ray Ferraro, there's there's no place for them.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And it seems like an easy ad. Yeah, I just
think contributions to the game. Other sports have that. Pro
football has contributions to the game, and and maybe you
could put it under that umbrella.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But I agree, how is Barry going?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
You know, you don't get better from Parkinson's dan, you know,
thankfully some people are curative cancer, but you don't get
cured of als or Parkinson's or dementia. So he's living
in Oxford, Ohio. That's where he met his wife, Cindy,
when he turned pro and played for the Cincinnati Stingers.
She was a cheerleader on the team. She grew up
in Oxford, rural Oxford, where Miami University is located, and
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they decided to move there from Florida to there where
they had been living to get some support. Her family
is still there. It's difficult, but Barry's watching the games.
I texted Cindy Melrose yesterday and said, can you get
me a Bery prediction for the finals. And of course,
in true Barry fashion, every year it was somebody in six.
He never said five, never said seven. So Barry's got
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the oilers in six, man, what do you have? I
have the oilers in seven, thinking. I'm sure they're thinking.
We fell to this team three to zero last year
and almost won four games in a row. We're better
this year. We have home ice this year, We're gonna
get off to a better start this year. We're gonna
treat one game one tonight like game seven, because you
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want to play ahead. You don't want to be down
one to Pedro Martinez if you have a chance an
so you want to be up one to oh And
they're probably they're the underdog by a smidch, but they
have the greatest player of their generation. They have another
great Hall of Famer to be in Leon dry Sidle.
They have a little more death. The Zach Hyman injury hurts,
but overall they're so good on home ice, they have
the best player, and as we know Dan, when their
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backs are kind of up against a cliff, up against
an ocean and an army never fights harder than when
their backs up against a cliff or an ocean. This
team is gonna get in the cap hell fast. They
have no young players coming. It's almost a do or
die year. Dry Settle gets a five million dollar raise,
Bouchard gets a five million dollar raise.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Next year.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Mcdavi's gonna need about an eight million dollar raise after
next year he's a UFA. This will be the summer
of his extension. So they sense that, I think, And
that's why, even though Florida is the best complete team,
and maybe they're constructed as the perfect team and maybe
they're gonna win, but I just don't think from a
they don't quite have that desperation that that Edmonton you
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can't manufacture.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Then, But also you're carrying the country too. I mean,
it's a long long time and I don't think we
can overstate the pressure that goes with caring. Not everybody's
rooting for Edmonton, I'm sure, as in other provinces, but
still you want Canada to bring home the Cup.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
The last time they won.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It, Barry Melrose was the other coach to bring it
back to Barring nineteen ninety three. So you're right, that's
a good point. It's been thirty two years, and you're right,
it's not quite Toronto or Montreal doing it because obviously
the big metropolitan areas that they're from, and you maybe
feel it more like the Cubs Red Sox ending their droughts.
But still I think Canada would come together. McDavid scored
the overtime winner in the Four Nations Otherwise it would
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have been an amazing year for USA Hockey. World Junior
just won the World Championship for the first time really,
so that was a big moment for McDavid to win that.
That was his first best on best, so he hasn't
won a trophy, a team trophy before that. So since
he was like sixteen, the guy, you know, it's just
going back to June for the eerie otters, so it's
time for.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Him to win.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You look at every great iconic NHL player, Dan I
looked at the top twenty scores last night. Only three
don't have a cup. You know, Marcel Dion great player.
These guys are all great players, but not quite that
iconic player. Joe Thornton, Adam Oates, all the others they
got their cup. It doesn't it's not there's no or
any banks in the NHL, you know, no Dan Marino,
they get it. But he's twenty eight, about to turn
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twenty nine, and it's only going to get harder, like
I said at Edmonton, So there is a bit of
a fun sports story desperation to it for me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, that's I was going to bring that up that
in the NBA and other sports, certainly quarterbacks, when are
you going to win your title? You get to a
certain point like Luka Doncic he's there, Yeah, Joker was there,
he won a title. Giannis was there, he won a title.
Embiid got an MVP. He's not going to win a title.
Jason Tatum won a title. Once you win the title,
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then we move on to the next guy. It's like, right,
Colin Montgomery, you know, the best player to never win
a major. Yeah, you know, keep waiting for these guys.
And then I wondered with you know, everybody says Conor
McDavid's best player in the world, Well, the best players
in the world win championships.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Exactly, and he might go down as the greatest talent ever.
And so that again, it just doesn't happen in the
sport There were six teams forever. Then there were twelve
and there were sixteen, so people got around, they got
their championship. But for him to be the greatest player
in his sport, the most talented, that would be something.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So it's something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
John Butcher graz ESPN Hockey play by play and host
a sports center anchor.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You've been there since what ninety six?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Yeah, October twenty eighth, nineteen ninety six. We did one
sports center together. I know you don't remember it, but
I do. It was a six o'clock sports center. I
was probably nervous doing three sports centers in my life.
My first, which was was Stuart Scott Grammy Night, nineteen
ninety seven. I'll never forget it. So my love of
music's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
It fall.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It fell on that date, and I did a six
o'clock with you, and I can't even think of the
third time.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I was nervous, but that was a big deal to me.
I told this story.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You were there playing basketball with us, Yes, when we
had these SportsCenter anchors, ESPN news anchors, and we're all
playing in a place called the Canton, Connecticut, the YMCA,
and these guys were trying to get me to go
out forever and play, and I said, nope, nope, I
didn't you know, if you let me run up and
down and sweat a little bit, I don't want somebody
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picking me up full court. So what happens Yep, Stuart
Scott picks me up full court to start the game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
M h.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And it didn't go well after that, because then it
got worse, it did. It got really.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I remember this like.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
It was yesterday. I'm like thirty one years old. I
just got there week. We played our pickup. I had
Steve Berthume. I was smart.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I knew who to card. I'm going to check.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Berth You.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Say, allowed on my little frist.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And so we cleared the court and then you and
Stuart proceeded to play one on one. It is the
most violent one on one situation and I've ever seen
on a basketball court. It was Stuart wanted it more
than you, Dan. He did obviously he.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Was bodying me forearm and then I finally it was
I talked to Jason Jackson about this occasionally. He laughs
because he said, people don't believe me when I tell
that story. And I said to Stuart, I looked him
right in the eye and I said, where do you
want me to bleep and score on you? I'm dribbling
with my left hand, and I was so I'd like, God,
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this is the last thing I wanted to do, exactly
be competitive with all of the other co anchors there and.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Turn an ankle, then you can't golf. That was my
reason why I retire. I don't want to turn an
ankle and up be able to golf.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, Stuart undercut me, yes, and I ended up going
to the emergency room for a chip vertebrae. I still
had to do Sports Center that night. Yes, always and
and Bouyon never apologize, never never. It was a flagrant too.
I can't believe how competitive we were. Man, that's like
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a different person. I'm just not that person anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's it was sad. It was sad. It was I
was like, what am I doing? I'm better than this?
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm going against Chuck Garfine, I mean what am I doing?
I'm better than this? Right, I'm better than this? Yeah, last,
I'm going to lock up Revsen. I am rever great
to talk to you, John. I hope you're doing well.
I hope you have a great series. Shut out Morango.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
My buddy goodie watching high school basketball teammate loves Stan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Thank you, Bud, John Butcher gross ESPN Hockey play by
play and by the way, good shooter, really good golfer.
Can't play a defense. He might have been the Karl
Anthony towns out there. Uh boh, rest in peace. Now
they're doing a documentary or a thirty for thirty on Stuart,
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and they wanted me to tell the story. I didn't
get along with Stuart. We didn't get along. Then you know,
there was competent. We respected each other, but there was
real competition in the building. And you know, but you're
professional when you're on Sports Center. I mean, we respected
each other, but there was a competition more from him
towards me than it was you know, me towards him.
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And I just you know, they wanted me to tell
that story in the documentary, and I go, I don't
want to tell the story than somebody else was there.
They can tell the story. It's even better if somebody
else tells the story, just like John. They basically it
was five on five. They just it became one on one.
I just said, clear out, Get everybody out of the way.
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I'm taking Stuart off the dribble. Yes, Ton, wasn't there.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
A story once told about he had a contact situation
and you got to read in the obviously the lingo
that he writes sports Center, which is very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So they're rolling the music.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Internet Internet and then Stewart puts a drop in his
eyes and his contact comes out, so all of a sudden,
and then Stewart gets up. I have my copy that
I'm going to read on camera. I have Stewart's copy now,
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because this is the first fifteen he's not there.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
We started. It's a Sunday night Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, I had to read how he writes, so, you know,
can I get a witness from the congregation cooler than
the other side of the pillow? Oooh yeah, I mean
Lucretia And I'm I'm doing all of these. I do
the entire first fifteen minutes. I'm doing my highlights, his highlights.
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And then he comes in and doesn't say a word.
He just sits down and we do the rest of
the Sports Center and then we had to go back
when the show was over and redo the entire a
block as they call it, He never ever said hey,
sorry about that. It was just we didn't have a
good relationship. I think he wanted the eleven o'clock. I
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think he wanted to do the NBA. You know so,
and I got it, but you don't want to compete
with me. It's not gonna it doesn't bring out good,
that's for sure, not good at all. And it didn't,
and you know, it's unfortunate. But towards the end of
his life, we tried to get him on when he
went out to the SPS and I, you know, I
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said to pr at ESPN and I didn't have a
good relationship with them at the time, and I said, hey,
I want to have Stewart on what he did that
is all time went cross country. They didn't think he'd
be able to make it physically, but you know, you
want to talk about when you look at somebody and
you're proud of who they are and what they did,
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how they did it, and he fought. You know, I
always had and always will have great respect and his
ex wife wonderful, wonderful, wonderful people. His daughter is extremely talented,
very bright, and he was just we were two competitive
guys and till the end till the very end. But
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I wanted him and he I think he said no,
but he he wanted Fritzy to tell me that he
knocked me on my ass.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, and I'm like, great, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good with that? All right, We'll take a break. When
we come back, we'll talk to Robert Rory more of
your phone calls as well.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
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I think anytime I did a highlight and Robert or
was in the highlight, I always thought of this song
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Speaker 3 (18:13):
Did you ever meet Prince.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I made him once and I was like saying that
I was a huge fan and it was amazing because
he's not a favorite artist for a long.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Time and a big basketball fan.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yes, he used to come in to two of the.
Speaker 10 (18:28):
Game in the back of the head KG Spree and
that group. So it was the honor to be here man,
you know. And it's just weird that you say that
it was in high school. They used to be a
thing wh they used to come out.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Hold on for a second, I want to make sure
we got the best connection for your microphone there. See
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Robert Dorry, sure with Dan we have two of them
up there right now. The Knicks are gutsier nuts Right now,
eighty eight percent of the audience have them as nuts.
And even worse than that, this decision the Knicks will
be legendary or cost people their jobs as a ninety
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three percent, that's a punishing result.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, I still think now.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Vincent Goodwill, who covers the sport for ya who's sports,
said last hour he doesn't think the Knicks have picked
their guy. It's like the best time to find a
job is when you have a job another job. I
just think the best time to be if you're going
to fire your coaches, you know who you're going to hire.
I don't know if you just fire somebody and then
say now we begin our job search. I don't believe
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that for a second, but it still goes back to
what we talked about. You signed him to this contract
extension last July and you gave him one year with
Karl Anthony Towns. I think that he may have won
more than you thought he was going to. Therefore it
made it a little bit more challenging to fire him
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or the Optics is really bad because you went to
the Eastern Conference Finals. I think that was my takeaway
from this is, you know, you beat a Celtic, you
get by the Celtics, and I don't think anybody thought
that was going to happen, But it happened because Jason
Tatum got hurt, and as Seaton says, you know, he
may have overachieved here that you're not expected to be Cleveland,
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not expected to beat Boston. You end up going to
the Eastern Conference Finals, and if anything, it should be
applauded that you got here with this team that you
probably didn't think he was going to get by Boston.
To begin with eight seven to seven to three DP
show email ADDRESSDP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a
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TP show Jeremy and Minnesota I Jeremy what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call first time, long
time back to the dib In show Killer Days. So,
dan say's my birthday and I surely share it with Angelina,
Joe Leek and Russell brand same day, same month, same year.
(21:00):
So I'm hoping we could with everybody who was born
on June fourth, nineteen seventy five, a happy birthday as
we enter our fifties. But before that, I want to
say that sausage off favorite segment ever and it holds
up after nine years. And also, once upon a time
you asked listeners, which Danette, we'd want to raise our kids,
(21:22):
I'd say it's either Seaton or Marvin Paul. He's great,
but my kids are Cardinals fans, so they can't grow
up in a Cubs home. And for Fritzy, they wouldn't
want to learn about seventies and eighty sports teams.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
All right? Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
How about a birthday shout out to Jeremy and Angelina,
jolee Oh, and Russell Brant. Let's bring back Robert or
let's see if that connection is a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Your reaction when you heard that the Knicks had fired
Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 12 (21:57):
I was shot because if you look at what Tom
Thibodau that has done for that team, getting them back
to the Eastern Conference finals, having a lot of things
that go on with that team, and for them to
fire him and such a might have to get into
the East company, I was. I was just shocked because
if you really think about it, and if you look
at the rossa of the Knicks, they overachieved. To me,
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you know, they they were overachieved. They got a lot
of guys that role players playing very well in Thibodau's system.
So I think that's one of the things you have
to look at. And sometimes people get confused. So we
just beat the NBA champions, Yeah, you beat them, but
you still got other teams that can play. And the Pacers,
let's be honest, they've coached very well and they've played
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better than anybody. So I think they should have ran
it back. But it's gonna be hard to find someone
to come in and and and step in his shoes.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Though, Do you have to like your head coach.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I've never liked any of my head coach.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
No. Actually, you know, it's so weird that a lot
of people think you have to like your head coaches.
I said, as long as the coach is doing a
good job, I don't think you have to like him,
but I think that has to have some type of
respect there. And if they player at the coach doesn't
respect the players, I don't think the players are gonna
respect the coach. And I think with this day and age,
the way players and coaches communicate, you know, you should
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step up and and have that opportunity to say, yo, coach,
I don't you know.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
This is how I feel about certain situations.
Speaker 12 (23:24):
And I don't know anything about any of those players
that they had. I don't know if anybody has the
you know, the man, I won't say the balls to
step in and say, yo, tip, you know we're playing
too many minutes of this and if tims will listening.
But I think it most of the time, I make
all that fall on the assistant coaches, because assistant coaches
are the ones that need to step in and grab
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the head coach by the ear and make them listen
to them, because the assistant coaches are closer to the
players than the coaches to the players.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did you like Phil Jackson?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I love Phil Jackson. I loved I actually loved all
my coaches. Love I love Rudy first, then up and
Field was second.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But Pop likes to yell at yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
So here's a funny story about Pop never yelled at me.
Speaker 12 (24:07):
He yelled at me once and everybody looked at him
and he was like, oh, I'm not supposed to yell
at Rober Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I forgot.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Why is he not allowed to yell at you?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
For some odd reason, there was a rumor going around
that you cannot yell at me. You yell at me,
you lose me, which is not true because you got
to think about my high school coach was a yeller.
Sanderson was definitely a yelling and so I'm like, I
don't mind yelling. I might tune you out, but you
can yell at me.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You never wanted to fight a coach, though.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
No, you know that's my that's my former college teammates
s free Well. I never did anything that you know.
You know, here's the thing about you know, in coaches,
I think I've always been you ever get into it? No, man,
you know, I'm the greatest guy ever.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Man. Everybody loves me. Man, teammate, I think about this.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
I sacrificed more than any player in the world for
his team to win, even in college un let spreeing Jane.
You know I got to you know, I got to
the Rockets. I let Dream do his thing and get
to the Lakers. Koche shot. Do you a thing I
sacrificed for you, guys, because at the end of the day,
it's about winning.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
It's about winning.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How many plays were run specifically for you in your career.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I only had plays run for me when I was
with the Rockets.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
Once I got to you know, I think it was
one time when I was in the Lakers uniform I
had plays ran from that was when I set a
record for most threes made consectly in the game and
I was hot, so he rans some plays for me
then and I was ran by I think Dale Harris
was the coach.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Then maybe yeah, that's the only time in the last time.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
You know, Pop never ran plays for me, even when
I was hot in two thousand and five in that finals,
he didn't run place with me. Then I'm like, hey,
because I'm you know, I'm the Uther sacrifice man. You know,
the most important thing is winning, and I never cared
about my stats it's about getting.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That dub how upset was a team. When David Robinson
won the league MVP, he was.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
Beyond upset, you know. And it's weird because he was
not a big talker. And when he said that's my trophy,
you know, back then, and he came out and pulled
out some moves on David Robinson I'd never seen before.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It was amazing, that dream shake.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know.
Speaker 12 (26:13):
You think about the footwork and his ability to get
guys to be in a popcorn machine and get them
off their feet. He was just fantastic man. You know,
one of the greatest players I ever played with.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Didn't he smack Vernon Maxwell? Did he smack Vernon?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Do you know that happened a year before I got out?
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Okay, you know, I'm that calm that comes in and
calms everybody down, so there's no smacking of people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Then would Kobe be able to play?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And obviously with the talent, but you know, he was
kind of a bully like you had, like Michael Jordan,
like you got to keep up with me.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Would that work in today's NBA with these players?
Speaker 12 (26:52):
I think it would because you think about it. If
you come to a team and this is how it's done.
You kind of fall into that mold culture. You know,
you might have a couple of guys that might not
fall in line, but if you winning, you know, that's
the bottom line, you know. And you think about you
look at all the cultures that you have that are
created on each team. You think about the OKC culture,
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how they're like, oh, we're gonna have each other's back regardless.
You think about the Indiana's culture, we're gonna play team
nobody's bigger than the ABC A D. And you think
about the culture in New York or so this is
it's only these six guys are going to play and
that's it. I think you become you adapt to it.
And I think a lot of guys when you come
into organization that let you be a little bit more free,
that's when you're not able to adapt because this is
(27:36):
all you know. You have blinders on and say, oh
this is we didn't.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Do this here, we didn't do this there.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
So I think they'd be fine, especially when you Kobe,
you know, he's a leader, he's gonna make you, you know,
follow fallow total.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I think he'd been fine.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You think he could have could have gotten a hundred
points in again.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
No, No, I think eighty one was just stressing one
hundred points because it gets to a point where you know,
you gotta miss some size and guys get ye.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
It's like yo, man, I know you scoring them, but
let me get some love too. But I don't.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
I don't think you would have been if it went
into overtime. He probably could have.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, but you don't want to interrupt his flow if
you if he's got like seventy something, you don't go, hey,
come on, how about I get a shot or something? What?
Speaker 12 (28:18):
No, But after a while you think, if I'm the coach,
that's the historical thing that's about to happen.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Right, it ain't happening on my watch.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
We're gonna triple team him as soon as he You're
gonna have some guy face guard him, don't let him care.
So you you know, think nobody ever wants to have
a historical mark like that selling it because you can
be in a trivia question, who was the head coach?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, allowed Kobe Bryant to have one hundred points? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Robert Or, a Lakers analyst for Spectrum Sportsnet, seven time
NBA champ, All right, what would you do if you're
the Lakers in the off season. What's the one thing
that has to happen.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
They of course, they got to get some size. I
think that's the biggest key. I gotta get some size.
And then they got to get you know, some people
behind that bench to grab JJ and say, Yo, this
ain't working. And I think a lot of times we
look at the head coach and we blame him for
some things, and we blame the players and things, but
I blame him. Always blame the assistant coaches because assistant
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coaches need to have the coach's ear and they see
things that the head coach don't see sometimes and like, Yo,
this ain't working.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
We need need to do this and that. And I
think that's the main key. You know.
Speaker 12 (29:27):
I love the coaching staff that they have, but it's
JJ willing to, you know, listen to his staff and
trust his staff, because sometimes when you come in as
a new coach, you say, oh God, I.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Gotta do it my way. I gotta do it this
way because I'm the head coach. I need to do this.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
And I think sometimes it takes a village, you know,
instead of you know, a guy saying, oh I need
to do this way because my head is on the line.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, but how should Luca take that? Hey, you're fat,
you're overweight. And people now say this openly as opposed
to maybe somebody said it to him privately.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And I don't know him, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't know what would motivate him because it feels
like people are embarrassing him by saying this.
Speaker 12 (30:10):
Yeah, and it's so weird that people talk about his weight,
but yet he's still giving people thirty points. I don't
I tell people I don't care about his weight. You
need to get him in the gym and teach him
how to play defense. You know, that's the thing, because
you can give someone forty points, but if you're giving
up thirty five on the other end, those forty points
don't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wait, you think that you could make Luca a good
defensive player?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yes, you can, you.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Know, because it's about wanting to.
Speaker 12 (30:36):
You know, he's never had to because he's always had
people behind him near racist mistakes you think about now,
there was no ad, no center, nobody, racist mistakes in
LA He getting blown by you know, they getting layups. Yeah,
you know, if you watch stretches of games where Luca's
just stayed in front because he's a big body. He
(30:57):
the defenders that I mean, officer puts are bouncing off him.
Stay in front, and I think that is the key.
And I think also he needs to want to play
defense because so many times he.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Saves his energy for the offensive end.
Speaker 12 (31:10):
I tell people all that if you can move your
feet and get past and blow by people, that means
you have some fast twitch muscles, you can move pretty fast.
So there's no reason you cannot play better defense on
the other end. It's just you just gotta want to,
and I don't think I think a lot of times
he doesn't want to.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
He rather just point.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, that means that you think Karl Anthony Towns could
be an adequate defender.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
I think with Carl, you know, people always talk about
lucas in shape. You know, if you look at Carr
and I think he could get in better shape. You know,
he's very top heavy, and I think he could get
in better shape. And he can, you know, even though
he has some big dogs anywhere it's like what size
twenty one shoe, But I think he can move his
feet because if you watch him offense, he can move fast.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
You just gotta want to.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
And Carl Anthony's problem is his problem is he does
a lot of silly files and he had and he
you know, when he sets the screen, he's he puts
his hip out and things like that. He just has
to learn how to curttail those files and be more
streamlined with his movements and just be smarter. So I
think he'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Defensively, Okay, she's style. Yeah, like they lead with defense. Yes,
do you believe the defense still wins championships in the NBA?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Of course?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
And the thing about why if okay see wins this,
it's gonna you know, Negate all those people who go
out and he like, oh, threes are the way to win.
That's not Shake Gilger's game. He will do it three
every nine and then. But it's about getting buckets, and
Shake Gilgers knows how to get buckets. That's either from
the mid range or from the free throw line. But
on the flip side, you think about what Hartenstein and
Caruso and to me one of the best defensive players
(32:49):
in the game lou Dort are doing for that team
is amazing. And and if you go back at the
history of the NBA. Even you go back to the
Splash Brothers and the way they shot three. They were
top five defensively, and so people sometimes forget, like, oh,
they get mesmerized by the offense. But these teams are
also good defensively and they can lock you down, you know,
(33:11):
the Jalen Williams, they're very good. And if you look
at this team, there's usually somebody on the team that's,
you know, bad defensively.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
There's no one on Okay, see it's bad defensively.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
What are the posters behind you over your right shoulder.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
Those are posters of I had a guy that he
did a painting of every championship I have, and what
it is is it's a moment from each game.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I kind of I.
Speaker 12 (33:41):
So, I kind of it's kind of old minds to me.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Other players you played against? Those are those are all you?
Speaker 12 (33:53):
Okay, it's two Rockets, three Lakers, and two Spurs, and
it's like it's a three point shot and each one
has a part of.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I can walk over there and let you see him
if you like.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But so if you can, I know, you've got time
constraints here. So all right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
Kind of I got a guy named Opie Otist Dad
that have been known for like since I got in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So it is like okay, nixt.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Finals, Orlando's Finals, Pacers Finals of course, Sixers, New Jersey Pistons,
and in Cleveland, and each one has like the most
famous shot I made against Lakers. He does this thing
called ghosting where you can put like a little ghosting
(34:41):
thing in it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So it's just me.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You earned it. I like you lost track of one
of the matchups there. You've won so many championships like oh,
New Jersey, Yeah, that was New Jersey.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
You always forget about the people you sweep, like you
know that team that had I forget the name of
that team.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Great to talk to you again as always, Robert.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Great to talk to you too, man. I appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's Robert Dory joining his courtesy of bet Online. I
thought he had like great players that he played against
or with, And you're right though.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Good for you many earn that you know.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
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Speaker 1 (35:28):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Last Call for phone calls, What we learn, What's in
store Tomorrow. Stat of the Day has been brought to
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the program. Tom in North Carolina. Welcome back, Tom. What's
on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (35:52):
ADP, Happy belated anniversary.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Thank you Todd and I twenty three years yesterday.
Speaker 13 (36:00):
And said, I was wondering, I know Todd's favorite moment
was Tim Tebow in the Course of your life slash career.
Where does the Fritzy Anniversary rank in special moments in
your life?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I would say the sausage off was pretty impressive. Once again,
Todd is really funny when he's not trying to be funny,
and he wasn't trying to be funny, but he was
really funny that day. I think when we got him
on stage with Darius Rucker, that was pretty good. I
think when he was able to sing to John Oates
(36:35):
of Hall and Oates that was pretty cool. I think
cozying up snuggling up to Chrissy Tigan on a couch
was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I got him in a couple of movies.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Yes, Tom, I think the question was, unless I misheard,
you want to know in your personal life as far
as just as far as being on this planet, where
are twenty three year anniversary ranks in special moments.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
In your life?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
If I heard that right, it's supposed to just moments
over the Dan Patrick years.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Oh no, it doesn't rank anywhere. Yeah, you should have
shut up and just let me give it moments. Yeah,
don't overstate our anniversary here, Okay.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I just want you to respond to the question accurate.
Speaker 14 (37:11):
So you weren't mentally debating the Fritzy anniversary and your
grandson being born this week is the best moment of
your week?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Those were?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
There wasn't a debate. Yeah, it's not a competition between
those two. Okay, kind of neck and neck if you
give it some extra thought. I did. I did. Wait,
let me give it a something I did. I did.
Scott and Louisville, Hi, Scott, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
First time, long time. You said you're getting close to
what we learned today, And I think something that we.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
All learned today is that you used to listen to
Jungle Love and think about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Robert or yes, yes, so yeah we all got live
with that now, Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I thought of Prince at Jungle Love and of course
Robert Dorry they all go together or E or EO
Jungle of.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Sometimes you listen to lyrics and you go, how do
they get that? Like where do you get that? Why
do you get that? Some lyrics and you just go, huh,
yes one.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I think that's the beauty about Prince.
Speaker 15 (38:22):
Morris to Day was basically Prince's alter ego because he
wrote all those songs from Moores Day in the time. Yeah,
like Prince would never say this, but Morris.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Day or Snad O'Connor, she'll sing this, I'm not going
to And you know you have the artist who hand
off song. Chris Stapleton said he's probably written a thousand
songs in his life, but he would hand him out
to people. He wrote one for Darius Rucker, he won't
(38:50):
He wrote one for Adele. He didn't even know who
Adele was. Remember when he won the four Grammys. We
had him on and uh, I said, I said, you
wrote a song for Dell and he goes, I didn't
even know who Adele was at the time, But you
just this ability to write these songs and not just lyrically,
because I don't know what would be harder. Like, you know,
(39:10):
you start a song like what is the beat? Like
what how do you start a song? That's that's the
amazing part for me, is there it is and then
I can fill in the lyrics. But to be able
to go okay that and then all of a sudden,
that's why Elton John and Bernie Taupin, you know, one
takes care of the music, one takes care of the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Amazing. Yes, Mark, you always.
Speaker 15 (39:34):
Hear, you know, people talking about songs and they were like,
I'm just playing this riff and somebody says.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Ooh that sounds good.
Speaker 15 (39:38):
You know, oh oh it's a little song called start
Me Up by Rolling Stones something like that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The number of artists who will say, yeah, I wrote
it in like fifteen minutes. I had it and then
it's gone, and so I have to I got up
in the middle of the night and you know, I
did a guitar riff. How does Springsteen have all these songs?
And mean, it's remarkable that you can come up with
the number of songs or the number of songs The
(40:04):
Beatles did in an eight year period. It's just it's amazing.
But I do think you have a finite number of songs.
You know, it's not like Paul McCartney or you know
Ringo Star writing hits now but they did. You know
the Stones. You know they're still writing but recording, but
you're not coming up with those hit songs like they
used to. Yes, ud I love the genius.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Before there was phones and all the technology, you have
a pet and pencil next to the bed to write
down your dreams or all of a sudden, song lyrics
come into your head in the middle of the night
and you have a very small finite amount of time
to get it down so you don't forget it.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Having to have that by your bed where you can
just start writing stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 14 (40:44):
This Day Sports History Paul nineteen sixty four. Sandy kofex
through his third career no hitter nineteen seventy four. The
NFL granted the Seattle Seahawks franchise. Gordy Howe nineteen eighty
announced his retirement of hockey, and I just checked in
Morris Day in the time will be touring all summer.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Look it up.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
On this date in two thousand, the Lakers were down
fifteen in the fourth quarter beat the Blazers Game seven,
Western Conference Finals, Todd, would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Yeahoo's Benson Goodwill says the only way the Pacers can
win this series is to push the pace, play flowless
ball down the stretch, and Tyres has to be a monster.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Seatan, would you learn if you need some paintings done?
Robert Rory's got a guy, but he only paints Robert Lorry.
That's what Yeah, Marvin, how about you?
Speaker 15 (41:29):
Don Cherry is not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
All right, but he will be Paul Robert Rory as
a shrine. Thanks for your support. We'll try to be
better tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody,
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