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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the final hour on this Thursday for this show.
Come on in stay a while. Jim Beheim, Hall of
Fame coach, former assistant coach with the Olympic teams. He'll
join us. Why's Jalen Brown not on the roster, but
his teammate Derek White is. He'll join us coming out
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eight seven seven three DP Show email addressdpat Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DPS show. Just got word that Paul
Skeens is going to join us on the program tomorrow. Also,
our good buddy Adam Lefko from TNT. I guess TNT
is still in the mix for the NBA rights TV rights.
I keep hearing it's finalized, but then TNT is still
(00:54):
trying to get a piece here, and I think we're
going to find out early next week. Also, I take
war pause to the face tomorrow. After my gamble, my
bed that Bronnie James would go in the first round.
By the way, I did watch Bronnie James last night. Actually,
I was watching Dalton Connect and he did have a
pretty good game, and really, if you're a Laker fan,
(01:16):
that's what you should be focusing on. He's not afraid
to shoot. He's got range, you can get a shot,
he gets buckets. Now the question is how does that
translate into what the Lakers are trying to do. That's
who we should be focusing on. The media is fixated
on Bronnie James. And I did watch, and he's a
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good on ball defender. Okay, I'm going to give him that.
I don't think he's an offensive guy. I think he
has a nice shot. I just think he's undersized. But
did watch, and I'm trying to be fair. If you said,
watch this guy play, my assessment would be, okay, well,
he's pretty good defender on ball defender. Other than that,
(01:59):
not much to now you throw in his name now
all of a sudden, the opinion changes a little bit here.
But Dalton connect the kid out of Tennessee first round pick,
and I think it's I thought it was a really
good pick. So we'll talk some hoops with Adam Lefko
from TNT and I'll take my four pies to the
face on tomorrow's program. Whole question for the final hour
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is going to be what we'll talk to Jim Beahon
coming up here in a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We got up there right now. Which would you rather
have an NBA Finals MVP or an Olympic gold medal?
Right now, sixty three percent of the audience are going
with the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, I praise this audience all the time. I don't
come here to praise you right now. The answer is
you're going to be the Finals MVP, your team won
the NBA title, You were the best player on the
biggest stage. Not we want a gold medal.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It feels like.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
If you're a kid shooting around at the local park
or something, and you're ten years old and you're by yourself,
and you're imagining, you know yourself in all these different scenarios.
I don't know how many times it was shooting a
three to win the game, to be an Olympic gold medalist,
that's fair. Yeah, I don't know how many times you
did that. Yeah, but you know, maybe Finals MVP, you
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just think a wing shot to win the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Tournament, Yeah, win the championship, yeah, gold medalists.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
One shining moment, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A couple of headlines here the men's hoop team beat
Canada eighty six seventy two. Team USA has fired its
soccer coach Greg Berholter, and England over Netherlands. Somebody picked
England to win it all when this tournament started. Hello, yes, yeah,
we're looking at him. Yeah right here, I'm on a run.
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I'm on a run.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Gave you the Celtics, I gave you the Florida Panthers.
Now I'm giving you England to win it all. Columbia
beat Uruguay. So that's in the the Euros. There there's
also the Kopa that's going on.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Get ready to Miamis for the finals?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yes, do you want to ride England and put a
couple of pies on it? Like if I remove two
pies tomorrow, but you take England to win it, right,
So you're down to two pies tomorrow. England wins it,
you're in the clear. If they don't, or.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
More pies on on Monday because the finals are on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Mincemeat pies. I think that's British, I believe, So all right,
I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There you go, two pies tomorrow with the hopes that
England wins.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
The euro Harry Kaney Caine.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, this day in sports history. We went back to
nineteen ninety six and that's when Jerry West saw Kobe
Bryant and said, I am going to trade Vlade Devon.
That was when Allen Iverson was taking number one overall
by Philadelphia. Now Kobe being from Philadelphia or at least
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the suburbs. If Philadelphia had the seventh or eighth pick,
maybe the sixth, maybe the fifth, they probably would have
taken Kobe Bryant. But they had the number one pick.
You weren't going to pass on Alan Iverson. He was
a sure thing Kobe. There were a lot of great
draft grades for him. They talked about, you know that
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he was seventeen years of age, but they found him mature,
calended enough, and Jerry West worked him out. And we'll
hear a portion of the interview that I did with
Jerry West years ago talking about when he did work
him out. They decided they were going to trade and
Vladi was a fan favorite with the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You trade him to Charlotte and you got Kobe.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And at the time, so the Nets had I think
the ninth pick.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Eighth or ninth pick, is that right, Marvin eighth pick. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
John Calipari was the head coach of the Nets and
he has said on the show he wanted to take Kobe,
but he was told by Kobe's agent he don't draft him.
He's not coming here, and Cali Perry said he flinched
because you know, when you think about the logic behind
this or what's the reality? Where's Kobe gone Italy? Hey,
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I'm going to go and play Italy. I grew up there,
my dad played there. I'm not going to play for
the New Jersey Nets. So they took Kerry Kittles. And
Kerrie Kittles was a well respected player out of Villanova
and I think he averaged like fourteen points a game
in his career. But he's no Kobe. But here is
my question to Jerry West and his answer about drafting Kobe.
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Remember the first time you saw Kobe?
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know. I saw him a
film when he was high schools to state winn a
state championship, and obviously was aware of his background to
calbe his father. And then when he was in Los Angeles,
his agent wanted wanted us to work him out, which
we did with some other kids. And he was by far.
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It was like no one else was in the gym,
and these people were taken in the first round, and
you know, didn't think we had a chance to even
get in a running for him. But his agent aren't
tell him again who was my friend? He wanted him
play in Los Angeles and we had Michael Cooper to
work out against him, and Michael.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Cooper was a.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Tremendous defensive player, and it got to the point where
it was almost embarrassing to watch a seventeen year old
kick this old man. Fanny I called Michael at that
time and they said, we don't need to see this anymore.
I said, this is ridiculous. I mean, as a dis
guy is he's the best player in the draft.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Now, in fairness to what you're hearing Jerry's voice. That
was the day after Kobe done. But it was great
that he reminisced about the first time he saw Kobe
and he worked him out, and they basically wanted to
shut it down. They didn't want word to get out that,
oh my god, this guy is the best player in
the draft that includes Alan Iverson. Jerry is seeing him
and it's like we made up our mind can we
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trade this pick to you know, Charlotte and Vlade was
a good player, like he was a fourteen and nine
kind of guy. He was only twenty seven years of age.
But you had something that Jerry saw. And I always
wonder if Jerry was looking for something that reminded Jerry
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of himself, like that competitor that I got to win
at all costs, and Jerry West was that. And sometimes
you draft or you trade for you want you sign
free agents, do they have what I can relate to?
And I always thought that Jerry saw the DNA of
Kobe and saw himself that this is the most important
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thing in the world to you, that when you win,
you're expected. When you lose, it's crushing, and you just
will not lose. You refuse to lose. And he had
to see this competitor who's seventeen going against Michael Cooper.
Now I don't know how old Coop was at the time,
but still Michael was still an elite defender. When you
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know Coop's assignment is Larry Bird, then you know that
he's a pretty good defender. But here's Kobe out there,
similar size, maybe a little taller than Coop, but you
know he was abusing Coop, and Jerry's like, I don't
need to see any more of this. But the fact
that Charlotte's like, oh, we can get an established guy,
because there was no guarantee you were going to get
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Kobe Bryant that he would still be there. You know,
John cali Perry says, hey, I wanted him. I don't
know if arn Tellum said to all of these other teams,
don't draft him, he only wants to play in LA.
But if Philly had drafted him, he would have stayed
in Philly. But Philly had number one pick and they
took Allen Iverson. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
There's a few articles you could still find about the draft.
This is early Internet, so it's not a bunch. But
the idea of taking a high school kid in the
lottery was not popular, and that's why Kobe went thirteenth overall.
This is before Kobe proved the point and then Kevin
Garnett proved the point, but players taken over him, Samaki Walker,
Eric Dampierre, Todd Fuller, traditional college big men Todd Fuller
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that didn't really do much in their careers because they
were considered safe picks.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's weird how you always look at the best player.
You should always look at the best player. But there
were so many drafts in all sports where you had
to take what you thought was the right person or
the right position, regardless of how talented. That guy's more talented,
but I'm going to take him because he makes more
sense for our team, and the draft is littered with
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We're going to take that guy, but he might not
be the best player in the draft. Sometimes you would
take a guy because you could sign him. You could
sign him. Remember with Reggie Bush and mary O Williams,
I think that came down to the ability of the
Bills to be able to sign mary O Williams, and
Williams was a talented guy, but I think that they
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thought it'd be harder to sign Reggie Bush. But with
Kobe and well, look, he wasn't a finished product. We
remember the Utah Jazz series, but you did see how
losing affected him, and losing effects you know everybody differently
when you get to that level, Hey, I still get paid,
Hey I'm making millions of dollars or this crushes me.
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I mean Jerry West, it crushed him when he would
lose in the NBA Finals and then even as a GM,
he couldn't even watch them, and the Lakers were normally
favored and he couldn't watch. And he talked about that
where he'd drive around Los Angeles and he would listen
on the radio or he would turn off the rate
like it consumed him. And that was the way with Kobe.
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It consumed him to be great, to be the greatest,
to be better than everybody, including Jordan. And I think
Jerry probably saw that, and that's what you can build upon.
Not that Vlade was not a good player. He was,
but he was not going to be much better than
what he had already shown. And Jerry had to know
that that guy's upside could be crazy upside where Vlade
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was fourteen and nine. And I think that Jerry said,
we've seen his best work. And while this isn't popular
to trade away a very very beloved player, I'm gonna
get I got a chance to get that guy. I mean,
that's what's amazing. Let's go to Kansas City. Andy Reid knew,
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and he was trying to do it so nobody else
knew it. He knew that Patrick Mahomes was something different
because he had Alex Smith, who was playing at a
pretty good level. He saw something and he goes, I
gotta go get that guy, so you draft him. I
think they went what twelve and four? Does that sound right?
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With Alex Smith sixteen games back then? And Sean Payton
was going to take Pat He thought Patrick Mahomes was
so good, he's going to take him, and he had
Drew Brees. That says a lot, but it's the eye
of the beholder that those who see it see it
before everybody else. And that was the case of Jerry
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saw it. Now, Jerry did make mistakes on picks. I'm
not here to gloss over that, but he did see
that he saw something.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Staying with that ninety six draft, Kobe's drafted thirteenth, Paijo
Strakovich has taken next to Sacramento that worked out very well,
and then Steve Nash fifteen to Phoenix which worked out eventually.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
A pretty good draft.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
How about this for the Lakers. They get Kobe with
twenty years of Kobe Bryant with a thirteenth pick. They
get Derek Fisher at the twenty fourth pick in the
draft from Arkansas.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Little Rock played eighteen years ago. Yeah, pretty good. Dang
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So that was on this date nineteen ninety six that
the Lakers traded Bonde and then got Kobe Bryant in
the draft. All right, let me see a couple of
phone calls Mike and Colorado Springs then will take great
Jim Beayheim will join us. Hey, Mike, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Ded, thanks for taking my call. Hey, I'm a Paralympian
twenty sixteen paralympian competed in Reo proudly for Team USA,
and I wanted to weigh in on our one full
question before I delve into that, I wanted to extend
an invite to you and the guys come out to
Colorado Springs, Olympic City, USA. I know Seatan was mentioning,
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this is the last Olympics that your show is going
to be live, So as an alternative, Hey, come out here.
I'll give you the VIP tour of the Trading Center,
the Olympic and Paralympic Museum, and we'll even get you
guys in a little competition at our shooting center a
shoe pistol for the US Perimal fifteen, and we could
have a little competition between you and the g oh.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't think we need to let Todd hold a gun,
but Mike, thank you. Or let us hold a gun
around Todd.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
That would not go well either way, big bad.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I have been to Colorado Springs, gorgeous, gorgeous. I almost
went to the Air Force, almost went to the Air
Force Academy for basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
My dad goes, you're not a flyboy, you know, mister Marine,
You're not a flyboy. I go, Dad, I don't. I'll
be whatever they want me to be. I'll be a
frog man if they want me to be the Navy seal.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The Colorado Springs that is beautiful. All right, take a break.
Jim Beyheim's going to join us. Maybe he can tell
us why Jalen Brown was not added to the roster
where you talk about chemistry with the Olympic team, So
we'll talk to him. Coming up. More phone calls as well.
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Just because he retired and he can't escape us. Jim
Beheim joining us from a Las Vegas special assistant to
the Syracuse Director of Athletics, the Basketball Hall of Famer,
and he joints is on the program. How are you, coach?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I've never been better happy as I can be, and
I'm losing money in the poker room at the Wind
Casino as I speak to you.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Are you what kind of poker player are you?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I'm pretty average. But out here this they just broke
up the World Series of Poker, so all the guys
here played in it. So I'm below average in that group.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
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your savings there.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Well no, well I'm still getting you know money, you know,
like you guys are paying me a lot, you know
a lot of money to be on your show. So yeah,
you know, I can, I can play. I can put
my blind up one hand for that. No, no, it's
been great, but I'm really retired and I won't have
i won't be doing any your show.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Oh you're not, You're you're all. We're gonna find you.
We're gonna track you down. We're gonna track you down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh now, are you just watching Olympic basketball?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
What exactly are you doing in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I'm in here to watch that. I watched the game
last night, watched practice the other day, and then I'm
going to watch Summer League. Buddy, my son is playing
in the Summer League. So I would watch that for
a couple of days. And but it was fun watching
the Olympic team practice. This is a really good basketball team.
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You know. They didn't shoot it well, particularly well last night,
but they really the defense was really good and I
think they're going to be really good. They've got I
think it's important for Kevin Durant to get healthy. He's
he's probably the best international player of all of our
players because he can shoot it so deep and he's
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so long. He's been our best international player. We'd like
to have him, but you know, to have Steph Curry
and Howiday in the backcourt. You know, Lebron obviously still
is playing at a high level. We've got center's positioned
Anthony Davis, Embiid. You know, it'll be interesting to see
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how Embiid makes progress. He looks a little you know,
he was hurt at the end of last year. I
don't know if he's fully healthy. But they've got a
really good team. Tatum, you know, obviously coming off a big,
big year, they might have too many players, but I
think the coaching staff, I think they'll work it out
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and I think it'll be I think it'll be. This
will be a great Olympic team, and we'll need to
be good because it's not easy. France is going to
be really good, and obviously Slovakia a couple of other
countries over there are good as well, so it's it'll
be a test. The problem with the Olympics In the
international ball, it's only a forty minute game, so you
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can't get off to a slow start, and it's a
one and done once you get to the medal round.
If you played one bad game, you're done. So it's
it's not that easy to win a go metal real isn't.
But I think this team certainly is got a great
chance to win.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, help me understand building a team. You said they
might have too many players. Jalen Brown is Jalen Brown's
coming off an unbelievable NBA Finals MVP, and you take
his teammate and Jalen Brown sent out some cryptic messages
like what's going on here? So is this a case
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of too many stars? And you need to have some
foot soldiers here? And that's why Jalen Brown did not
get picked.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
No, no, not at all, because the guy they added
is a star too. I mean, I think they didn't
release this, so I'm guessing a little bit here, but
I think they felt they needed another guard that could
pressure the ball in case something to how they got
hurt or something I think they feel his teammate from
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the Celtics can also pressure the ball very hard. Plus
you got to understand these two guys just want a
championship too, so they're used to each other. I think
it's a good move. I think at the forward spot,
you got Kevin Durant, you got Jason Tatum, you got
somebody I'm forgetting. I'm sure right now, you.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Got Anthony Davis.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
No, I'm talking that forwards, but Gill just plays for Tannadah. Yeah,
give me a break. I know you're good, but you're
now you're having a bad morning attention. But they got
Jason Tatum, they got Lebron and forward, they got Anthony
Davis at center of course. But you know, Jaylen Brown
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is a great player, there's no question about it. And
it's always tough to leave a guy like that. I
mean he's an Olympic player. I mean he's as good
as these guys. It's just the way they decided when
they picked the team. They try to fit the guys
as better. I went through this for three times. We
picked three Olympic teams, and you're always there's always somebody
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you may well, maybe this guy or maybe that guy,
and you know it's it's hard Aalen Brown is a
great player. I don't think anybody's disputing that, and I'm
sure that they I think they felt when this happened.
They had Kawhi obviously, and Kawhi Leonards as good as anybody,
so they were set forward. When Kawhi went down. I
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think they made the decision they wanted another guard that
could pressure the ball. It's a little bit of guesswork
on my part, but I think that's what I heard
from conversations. But yeah, I mean it's it's it's always tough.
It's Ayleen Brown is a great player. I mean, that's
a tough That's not an easy leave off by any
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stretch of the imagination. But they have a great team.
I'm anxious to see employe. I think when they get
rolling there, they've got We never had the shot blockers
with like Anthony Davis and Joe and b. We didn't
have that really with our Olympic teams. We had the
guard playing the forward play, but we didn't have that
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shop maybe got a shot blocker. They changed shots last night,
so and they're gonna have to contend with when Bayana
and they're gonna have to go bear with France. That's
always gonna be tough. But I just I like this team.
I think they'll be fun to watch, and I think
the Olympics will be great. I think it'll be a
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great team to watch see how they developed.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Talking to Jim Beaheim, basketball Hall of famer says he's retired,
but not really Cooper Flag, Oh what did you think?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Great player? Great player? I'm not gonna you know, I
try to. I don't like to build up guys and
just all this and that. But I'm just telling you
he's as good as anybody us. You know, long long,
long time. He can go. He went right up against
these guys. These guys are meant here. I mean he
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went right up against him. He can sure, he handles
the ball, he's tough, he's a different guy. He's a
different guy. He's I'm not sure he can't play right
now when this team. I mean, he's really good and
he's he's a difference he's a difference maker. There's gonna
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be a lot of people trying to get that number
one draft pick next year. He's really good. He's been
good for a long time, and he's tough. He's got
toughness and you know he's a team player. He passes,
he shoots. This guy he block shots. You know he
can play two, three, four one. If he had two
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probably I'm not sure he couldn't play the five.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Miss capable of making this rule. Is he good enough
to be on this roster on the Olympic tad, Well.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You would never. I don't think you'd ever put a
kid like that. We had Kevin Durant in the same
situation when our first Olympics, and he was really good,
but we didn't put him on. Okay, you know his
time came and Kevin's been on what this is third
or fourth. So sometimes a young player, even like Caitlin Clark,
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her time's gonna come. She's going to be on two
or three Olympic teams. But you kind of like to
go with the veterans a little bit at this stage.
You get that one game playoff and it's for the
golden medal. Do you want a seventeen year old Titterers
you want Kevin Durant and Lebron James on the court.
I mean, that's an easy answer. Even I think you
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can get that answer, But I don't know why I'm
picking on you, my best friends of her years. But anyway,
Cooper Flag is going to be fun to watch, and
there's some really good young players coming up in college
basketball for a year. They'll be there for at least
we'll see him for a year, but it'll be fun.
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I work with Carlos Boozer a lot, and he was
a great guy to work with. By the way, his
sounds really good, so you know, they're just he's much
I tell him all the time, Carlos, he's much better
than you are. But you know, it's it's fun to
watch these guys. It'll be fun to watch this Olympic team,
and it's not that much fun to be in college
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basketball right now. And I wish we had somebody like
Dave Gavitt that could be there to tell these guys
what to do and how to how to fix what
we've got. But I don't I don't think. I don't
see that coming. And I don't want to sound like
a grumpy old man that doesn't like the today's world,
because you know whatever, it's just really it's really crazy
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now in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And what did you think of Dan Hurley turning down
the Lakers? To stay at Connecticut.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I love Dan Hill. He's a great college coach. I
think it's sometimes hard for some coaches to go from
college to the NBA. It's a different mindset. You know,
you're not yelling at Lebron James and Anthony Davis five
times a week. You know they're not listening. They're not
listening to that. And I think Danny's great. He's tough,
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and he gets on his players, and it works in college,
and he's figured out he's the best college coach. I'm
happy for him that he went back. I think he's
better suited in college. You know, Mike Shishawski made a
decision many years ago that he was a better suited
college coach and it worked out pretty good for him.
I think this will work out well for Danny Hurley maybe.
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I mean, he can try it again if he wants to,
he can try it up there, But it's I think
it I would say his style. I think it would
be hard up there. But you know, the people in
Connecticut I don't like me that much anyway, so I
don't want to say anything bad about him. But anyway,
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they like you.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Now you're gone, they like you. I'm sure, okay, but
they beat It's enough tougher transition though coach if Dan
Hurley was leaving Connecticut to go to the Lakers or
JJ Reddick, who's never coached going to the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well, JJ knows the league. He's smart, he understands the league.
He's close, pretty close with Lebron, which will help. But
it's a tough team to coach. I mean, Lebron's forty
one years old, and Anthony, who's a great player, gets
hurt if one of them go down. They're not winning.
And the West the last time I looked, and I'd
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like I watch all you know, I watched too much
basketball anyway, But the last I looked, the West is
pretty dunk good out there. It's not going to be
easy to do much out there. When you look at
some of the players and some of the teams that
are out there. I think it's going to be very hard.
And the Lakers don't understand anything except winning. You know,
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It's like I don't I don't think that Daryl Ham
did that better job coaching there, but they didn't win.
So you know, you coach there a couple of years,
you don't win, you're probably not gonna be coaching there
again any longer. But it's a tough team to coach.
I mean it's if those two guys say, perfectly healthy
(29:21):
and can have big years, they'll be in it. But
it'll be it'll be tough for them. And uh but
jj reddick. You know one other guy came out of
the booth, you know, the coach, remember him? He turned
out pretty good, that named pat Riley, remember him? Yeah, yeah,
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he turned out to be a pretty good coach then
he yeah, yeah, so it can be done.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But you know, magic and Kareem could make me a
good coach though, just saying, well, he.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Did pretty good in New York too, I mean he
elevated them pretty good. That all right in miamis no.
You know you can say that about Phil Jackson too.
You know he had a few guys too. Any coach
that wins in the NBA wins as good players. Red
our Back, I love red our Back, But until the guy,
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that guy Russell got there, they never want anything. And
then when Russell got they won a lot of games.
They won a lot of games and a lot of championships.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Okay, who's the best, Who's the best coach of all?
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Time in the NBA, which I'm not an expert at
so they'll just laugh at me. But uh, I think
it's it's it's hard. I mean, I like, I like
Greg Poppy. I think he's a great coach. I put
him in Phil Jackson right there with Red Aurback. I mean,
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those guys you can't deny. They want it. They won
titles and they're great coaches, you know. I mean it's
hard to talk about coaches different eras and different things.
I mean, John Wooden was always considered the greatest coach.
He is what he did and he is. And Mike
Skryzhewsky's the best coach in modern what I call modern basketball,
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which is kind of old basketball because I'm old. But
you know, we lost. We lost the Michigan State the
year that Michigan State played in the state in the finals.
We lost him. We lost before we got to the
Michigan State game. So yeah, no, we didn't. Bird was
He's a great player, top five, one of my top
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five players all time. I mean, as simple as that.
It's not that hard to pick these guys. Everybody argues
about all this stuff. Michael Joins the best player they
ever played. I mean, there's no, there's not a debate
about it. It's it's over.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Lebron is not close to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Your opinion, Well, he's close. He's close.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
It's argument.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Well, no, there isn't. But he's he's close. But he
you know, he's great. He's on that team. Top five players.
I mean, Magic Johnson's on that team. I mean there's
top five players, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Okay, wait a minute, I'm writing these down. So you got Bird,
Magic and Michael. Now I got room for two more
in your top five.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Well you I think Lebron's.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Okay, Now I got room for one more.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Well. The problem with picking centers is you can fight
all your life about it. I picked Bill Russell because
he won a hundred.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Championships eleven eleven yeah, and double A that's true. And Olympic.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah, so I picked Bill Russell. I mean most people
don't pick them. That's okay. My sons laugh at me
when I pick them, but that's all right. They're not
that smart, by the way, take after me.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Timson Buddy is playing with Oklahoma City in the Summer League,
and his older son Jimmy just signed with the team
in Germany.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
So yes, be.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
How are you aware of all that stuff? Geez, that's good.
You're on top of things.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Now, well I scouted better than you scouted, let's put
it that way.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Well, I don't know. I did pretive the wife's category.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I think she scouted you. Well okay, okay, well okay,
hold on way over harder to clothes your wife or Carmelo, Anthony.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
No, you're supposed to say who is the most important?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Well, I know who that is. It's Carmelo.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
And I'm not going to answer that question on the radio,
not ever.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Nope, nope, that'll come back to haunt you, all right.
Don't lose your life savings out there.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Okay, just okay, I'm on a budget.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I'm on a budget.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I'm limited, good, very limited.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yes, I'm on Social Security. I'm retired.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Great to catch up with you. Play nice out there,
all right, thank you. That's Jim Bay Huh, Jim Bay huh,
Hall of fame coach.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
More important Carmelo or his wife. That's why I said
I can't answer that, not on the radio. Tougher to
close his wife or Carmelo.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
See, why did we decide it was top ten? Why
the number ten? We love round numbers. Why not twenty?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, we can do that, It just takes a longer
time to do twenty. He gave me top five, right,
so it's really easy to go. All right, let's here,
you're top five, coach.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
We decided that. It's like you have a top ten.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
We could do a top seven if you want. We
could do top seven. We could do a top thirteen.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Why not top nine? All the single digit? Top nine
to ten? Sorry, double digit's not as good. All right,
you're sounding like Todd right now, and you don't want
to sound like Todd.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Okay, Sorry, I can always sound like me.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I didn't know it's going to be that detrimental to
the show to actually did.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
That's pretty good, Thank you. Ted.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Todd, by the ways, has a Roger Bennett impersonation. He'll
have that for you coming up. After the break.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
And last call for phone Calls, What we learn, What's
in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2 (35:34):
Last Call for phone Calls, What we learn? What's in
store tomorrow. Adam Lefko of TNT in the Pirate Sensation
Paul's schemes. Now, I did say that I would love
to see him start the All Star Game. But Chris
sale from the Braves. He's earned it. He got twelve wins.
Great story. I thought he was done with baseball when
(35:57):
he was with the Red Sox, all those injuries. Now
with the twelve wins, so we'll talk to the Pirates
Ace Paul schemes.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
He will join us tomorrow. Final results of the Pole
question seton.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
YEP.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
This one was very unexpected. Gotta admit.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Right now, sixty three percent of the audience would rather
have an Olympic gold medal than an NBA Finals MVP.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
All right, all right, I mean it's to each his own.
It's just you're wrong because you want to be the
finals NBA Finals. Yes, accurate, VP, I win a title
unless you're Jerry West, the only Finals MVP who didn't
win the title. I think Jerry so Jerry was a
(36:40):
Finals Most Outstanding Player of the NCAA tournament and he
didn't win the title, and he was a Finals MVP
and the Lakers. I mean that's crazy. That would not
happen nowadays. You could average fifty and although you get votes,
I just I don't know. You know, it's weird how
we equate value, Because value is your team did better.
(37:04):
You're great, but your team did better, I'd say you
win an MVP. Now, the days of Andre Dawson or
cal Ripken winning an MVP for a bad team, they're
just not going to happen anymore. And people even bringing
in team records for the Rookie of the Year in
the WNBA with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, I'm like,
when's the last time we factored in the record of
(37:26):
a player for Rookie of the Year. Did anybody say, Hey,
Victor Wembanyama is awesome, but what's his team's record?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Nobody said that? Yes, see.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Are you getting a sense from people who are talking
about the Olympics in basketball? This is something that's come
up on Twitter a little bit too, that coaches and
analysts are talking about it carefully, as if a walk
into the gold medal isn't quite a certain thing. Yes,
it sounds like it sounds like people talking about the
US team are nervous.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well, I think these other countries have their attention because
we've seen the United States lose on a big stage before.
And I think I just by having Rudy Gobert and
Victor Wimbanyama and you got France playing on home soil
and all it takes is one loss, that's it. And
I think because of that, and I think you got
(38:19):
a tiptoe. We never go, hey, you don't have a chance.
We've said that so many times on the show. Don't
ever say somebody doesn't have a chance. If you're in
a game, you have the opportunity to win. And how
many times have we seen that? What if there's an injury,
just you can't say one hundred percent that team has
no chance because you do have a chance because you're playing.
(38:42):
The team that has no chance is the team that's
not playing. Let me see, let me get Tim in Vegas.
Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Hi Dan? Thanks for calling me.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah, hey, you know it's right before our.
Speaker 10 (38:57):
Eyes, the solution to the controversy with the Dream Team.
And I think it would really just be wonderful to
see the first fathersome combination playing for the Dream Team
of all time?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
So why not?
Speaker 10 (39:12):
Bronnie James?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, I agree, You know he's got the resume. Yeah,
that wouldn't that be wild?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Kawhi is gonna sit down, He's not gonna play, and
the Olympic team is going to bring in Bronnie James.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Sure min not don't have enough to deal with.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I know the Internet would explode if something like that
happened This Day in Sports History, Paul. By the way,
we have scoreboard with Todd, which is basically this Day
in Sports History, and it comes right before PAULI does
This Day in Sports History?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Did I just give you this scoreboard to have something
to do?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Tom? This kind of fell in my lap.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
But sometimes it's a number one song, sometimes it's a
jersey number, sometimes it's a birthday.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
I try not to go with the exact ones that
I think Paul's going yese done maliciously.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I think that there's a different history to this, and
that Todd used to do it on his own, just
as something that was kind of like a cute, fun thing,
as you know Todd likes to do. And Paul used
to snarkily always say to him, I don't know, maybe
that would make a good looking Sometimes that's exactly what
happened actually, and it just so happened now that Todd
does the scoreboard and steals Paul's this day in History
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every single day, exactly what Paul asked for.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Paul, you did ask for this. It's true.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Todd for years was doing the scoreboard for nobody, which
is interesting on the show built for fans and audience,
and I suggested maybe do it publicly.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I like to amuse myself sometimes I'm going to do
this day in sports history. Babe Ruth made his Everyone's
doing it Baseball Dames for you.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
As a pitcher nineteen fourteen, Bo Jackson hit a four
hundred and forty eight foot home run. He was the
MVP in the All Star Game nineteen eighty nine. Man
also the Eric LLL, the inspiration for the movie Chariots
of Fire. He won the four hundred meters. He didn't
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run the one hundred meters in the Paris Olympics because
the race would be held on a Sunday, and his
story became the movie Charots of Fire.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
That was nineteen twenty four. That's what we learned today.
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