July 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Former Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan joins Dan and they discuss the end of his career and when he knew it was over, plus his thoughts on the quarterback situation in Atlanta. Dan talks about the comments from Colorado head coach Deion Sanders on NIL and the expanding reach of the college football playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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twelve media day about college football needing a salary cap.
You have a salary cap. The problem is there's always
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him last night and he said, I'm going to be
telling all kinds of stories when I join you on
the program. Is Matt ready to go? Paul? Yes, we
need to escort Matt Ryan up here. How about a
round of applause for the man they call Matty eyes
tall and lean. Yes, yeah, how were we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Looks like he's dropped like fifteen twenty pounds. You're just
a we see this with offensive and defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
No, yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Not as muscular, a little softer around the edges, but
a little lighter.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But did you try to purposely bulk up when I played?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
For me, it was always difficult to keep the weight
on just by kind of you know, my frame or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was. It was work to try.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And get to two twenty two seventeen is what I
played at and I probably way about two or five now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So but you just see quarterbacks like rag dolls. But
then you see those quarterbacks in person, and like Trevor
Lawrence is a big guy, no doubt you've seen him
last night.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean Trevor is I mean he is put together, yeah,
and just broad shouldered big. And you know we were
talking about Cam Newton last night too, same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Played against him in Division.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I remember meeting him for the first time and being like,
we played the same position.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
He looks like the dns that I go against.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So yes, yeah, it's it's there's some some big guys,
but you know I was able to do it pretty
well at my size and made it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Work for me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But is there you know you see Peyton and Brady
and they would kind of go in the fetal position
if they were going to be sacked. Yeah that's okay,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Listen, Your your best ability is availability right when you
can play. Yeah, so Tom and Peyton they kind of
had that down to a science.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I you know, I was kind of in.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That era of quarterbacks just right after them. Right, So
I had watched them play in the NFL for seven
eight years, nine years before I got there, and then
you know, played. I guess Tom played longer than me.
He still was playing after I was done.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But do you think he could still play?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think he could.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, I think the way he takes care of himself,
it looks like like he looks he looks more fit
now than he's ever ever been. And so, you know,
and I think the style with which he played leads
to being able to play longer, right, not moving around,
not having to run do all those types of different things.
Because he could still throw it. I mean, he could
still spin it at the end.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh Matt sacked five hundred times, palling.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Four hundred and eighty eight times he was sacked in
his crew.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But you were still pretty good? Look at you?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, I still feel pretty good. I can still swing
the golf club, which is good.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is there one that stands out?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
One sack that stands out?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I mean they all kind of run together when you
get about five hundred of them, but uh, I'd say
the sack fumble in the Super Bowl is probably the
one that listen. I think sometimes I think sometimes you
got to get in front of it.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Right, you're the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You just got to go and go in front of him.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So if you're asking me about one of them, Dan,
I would probably say that's the one I would like
to have not been sacked on. But anyhow, what else
do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Football?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Playoff?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What was what was that play called? So you're in
the huddle and you call that play, what is it?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
That's a good question. I don't remember the exact play
call offhand. I'm always amazed some of these guys that
that can rip back from, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Off the Your guy's memories have to be it's.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's really good. I remember the situation. I remember what
the route we had going on. We had Aldric Robin
run in the corner that was coming out like the
top of this and he was going to be open
like he was. He was going to be open and
trying to hang on for that extra second give him
a chance to.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Make a play.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But would that have been a touchdown?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It would have been a chunk. I think there was
a chance, but it would have been a chunk play
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But you don't remember the call, but I can't remember it.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It was a designer what we call designer calls, So
it was like a specific play for that week, for
that situation. So it wasn't like you know, gun trips
right three jet jaws ex Drift, which was one of
our staple plays. It was a designer play for that week.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Give us give us a call though that wo might
surprise us the depth of it that you're trying to
absorb if you're you know, a wide receiver running back.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I mean there's I'm trying to think of staple plays,
but like where it gets word, he's in the run
game than canning or killing or checking or whatever you
want to a pass play.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So you know we'd have like west rd.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Zoom zy Wright nineteen want to force, can you know,
can gun three scat you know X whole space.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's one play.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's one play, and so.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, I mean it's I heard you read the
little script coming on here. That was more impressive to
me than calling a play. Right now that I've done
TV and I've seen the prompter and having to come
in and done some of those things, I find that
far more difficult than than regurgitating a play.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Called Matt Ryan joining us on the program. Yeah, you
start to think about making the transition. When did you
think about going from playing to then broadcasting?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, I had listen.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I've always had fun coming on shows with you or
with different guys, and I had the opportunity a couple
of times while I was playing to go in and
do some studio work, one with CBS, one with ESPN,
and I enjoyed it, but I really didn't think about
it until I was done, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
My last year in Indy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Was a difficult year for the organization, for myself, for
everybody that was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And so.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
After that, I got back to Atlanta after that season
and was kind of talking with my wife about what
we wanted to do moving forward.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
My wife was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
With my youngest son at the time, and it seemed like,
you know, it probably a good time to be rooted
and home, and that's where we started to explore some options.
I was really lucky got hired by CBS called Games
for the first year, which was an absolute blast, a
ton of fun doing that, and then moved into the
studio the next year. So it kind of happened faster
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than I thought. It wasn't something like I was planning
as a player, this is it, this is where I'm
going when I'm done.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was, you know, wondering about this though. When you
get towards the end of when do you know you're
at the end of your career.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
There were a handful of times in India I knew it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Was this is probably it okay? But was it because
of you?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I still think I had gas left in the tank
right to be able to play. That year was a
strange year, like Frank Wright being fired and Jeff Saturday
coming in and I got benched and then came back
and played a little bit and just kind of the
whole the whole deal, and then being away. My wife
was pregnant with my youngest son, so they were back
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in Atlanta. She was there kind of visiting with doctors
there and they were back and forth, that whole kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It wasn't like a wake up.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It was just kind of a slow drip to you know,
and I think my life's moving in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did you ever think about trying to join the Eagles?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I no, never, seriously.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I grew up but like I played against them enough
that they soon did not become my team, right, so
we you know, it's stuff like the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Could I have played for the Steelers? Uh? Yeah, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I think your allegiances, your childhood allegiances, Yeah, go out
the wayside the minute you get drafted or you get
you know, you put into a building. And so particularly
I think when you play for an organization as long
as I did in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know, my we got a little chipmunk running around there. Yes,
wildlife on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We had dog go fers had I'm sniffing dogs up
there earlier. Yeah, we got it all.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Going to love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. We're talking to Matt Ryan. I was wondering about
Kirk Cousins in the situation that he's in now. He
said he was kind of blindsided with the whole Michael
Pennix raft pit. What do you do in a situation now?
You can't feel sorry for him from the standpoint of
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. Sure, but he does want
to play. Yeah, I don't know if he no other
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team was interested because of the one hundred million dollars guarantee.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, I mean that's that is Listen, I get both
sides of it, right, I get I get the frustration
from Kirk's end, right, you would you would hope for
transparency coming into a situation of what the plan is
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Hey, why are you bringing me in? Is there? You know?
What kind of runway are we looking at here? With?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
With myself, I think from the Falcons perspective, that was
such a deep draft at quarterback, you know, and I
think that as I've been removed as a player, my
player side of me goes right to Kirk. Of of course
I'd be pissed too, right, you know you're in that situation.
I think that's a natural competitor's reaction, like what are
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we doing?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We've got other spots we could go.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You've heard other quarterbacks say that in buildings where they've
been established in their drafting young quarterbacks, saying what are
we doing? We can add value at different spots. So
I think Kirk coming in feeling like he had a
four or five year runway to play there and then
them going in a different direction was probably difficult is
difficult for him. But I get the organization standpoint, because
I do think you know, when you look at last
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year's draft, the depth of that quarterback position, and then
projecting forward right what the next two or three drafts
are going to look like, and hoping that you're not
in a position to draft early.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's the position you've got to take care of.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And if you're defending the Falcons, which you know I'm
biased because I'm played there so long and root for
them and all those kind of things, you have to
get that position right right, and you have to get
it right and when you've got the opportun unity to
acquire somebody who I think is really talented. I think
Michael Penix has a lot of talent, and I think
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he played really well at the end.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Of the year. You got to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But how did the Niners miss on trade lands? How
does that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, they're not the only ones you missed on quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
When you trade up and you whiff on a guy, yeah,
it's and I just thought he didn't have enough starts.
I needed a larger sample size.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
What you know, you go specifically to Michael Pennox. I
think one of the things you look at when you
draft a guy like that is, yes, there were injury
concerns and me and those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But there was there was a large body of work Indiana.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, And I remember the old Bill Parcells. You know,
the checklist for drafting quarterbacks was three year starters and
all this, and you know, whatever the checklist was, but
it was he wanted a sample size. And I think
that's gotten increasingly more difficult. You guys are talking about
the college football playoff coming in, but the portal, people
moving around, people getting out of there more and more,
I think it's hard to get I had a big
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sample size of quarterbacks at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
When you look at your resume, do you see Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I've been asked this, and I don't think there's any
great way to kind of dot it. I'm proud of
what I did, you know, and it's not for me
to decide. But if you were going to convince me,
if I were going to convince you, Let's say I'm
a voter, the numbers are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, you got the MVP, sure, and you played in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
If you win, this all goes back to that sack.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Damn it all goes back to that sack, all right,
that one sack you wanted to talk and you.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Have one of the great completions that people forget about
towards the end of that game.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I was one half of that. The other half was
pretty good too. Jones was pretty good on the other
end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's there's so many like plays that God forgotten in
super Bowls because you didn't win Seattle. Who was the
guy forgotten? Yeah, one of the great catches in super
Bowl history. And we're like, oh, yeah, that's right. And
Julio made that grab, and I go, he just won
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the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's kind of what I was thinking to myself, but.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It didn't quite shake out that way. But I think
you're a Hall of Famer. But you know, it's tricky,
like somebody says, is Russell Wilson hall of Famer? Is
Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer? Like I would never
want to vote on this because this is you're changing lives. Sure, sure,
so you got whatever forty five guys who are in
there arguing back and forth, and then you know, you
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start to promote and then you denigrate somebody, and like
it is Russell Wilson playing himself out of the Hall
of Fame with the way he's played since Denver and
you know now with Pittsburgh and then New York.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think you talk about his body
of work and the consistency for the better part of
a decade and what they did in Seattle, I mean, yeah,
I think there's a lot of guys that probably didn't play.
You think of Joe Namath or Johnny and Idis in
different uniforms at the end, they're Hall of Famers, right,
and they certainly didn't play themselves out of it. But
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you know, I think when you talk about Russ, there
was so much that he did and it was so
consistent for so long. To me, whether it's the Hall
of Fame discussion or whether it's players or whatever, the
thing I've always been most impressed with is guys that
do it for a long time at the same level,
over and over and over, and you can you can
kind of check mark what they're gonna do when they
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go out there and perform. I think that's one of
the things, regardless of sport, that I've always admired.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, you look at Eli. Eli's numbers are average clutch clutch, Yes, Yes,
he beat Tom Brady twice. Yes, that's why he's the
Hall of Fame I'll put.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Everybody in, man, I'll put everybody in there.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Joe Flacco going in well. I love Joe, I love Joe,
and Joe is a good friend of mine. But of
Philip Rivers, I believe.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean you talk about is a really interesting time
the league was changing, right. You go from the mid
two thousands to really twenty twenty, and the league changed
into that past first type of offense. And you have
about eight or ten guys that put up numbers that
are in the top ten of the history of the
league during that short period of time. I don't know
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if we'll see that. I don't know if careers will
go as long as they did. As the style of
quarterback play evolves, right, and the exposure to hits and
running and those kind of things. And you've seen passing
yards come down in the last three or four or
five years, right, It's not you know, we went to
the seventeenth game and you're thinking everybody's going to be
thrown for over five thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You just don't see it.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And so I think the league has evolved into you know,
how they're running the football. I think it's bring those
passing numbers down. So I think the numbers, it was
an interesting time, and I think there were a lot
of good, really good passers in the league at that time.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, can I make this statement?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Can't make any statement?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, but I want to know if you agree that
Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the NFL, but he's
the quarterback you would want in the biggest game.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There's a lot to that statement.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The second part, yes, right, his track record I believe
has proven that although the Super Bowl, they didn't have
their best performance this past year. But for me, you know, personally,
that doesn't change my opinion of Patrick Mahomes. Right, if
you roll out the ball in the biggest of the
big games, yeah, I think he's the guy that you're
going to take.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know, I think, how are you pigeon holing that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
First part of the statement?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, who's the best quarterback in regular season? Quarterback? Who
is the best quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's a great question. I think you probably still have
to go with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you look, you
look at what they did last year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
See, how would say Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Joe Burrow's excellent. I mean, Joe Burrows.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
He did everything to get them into the playoffs and
could have been an MVP candidate. He played that well.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I certainly agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think Joe or Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think the league's in a great spot right now
with quarterback play, Like I really do.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think it's it's really good.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But if you're asking me one regular season game, I'll
take Patrick.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'll take Patrick Mahomes, all right, fair enough, It's just
just an opinion. Yeah, what's your jacket signs for the
Hall of Fame. So I think that that's what I
told Himbout. Great to see again, Good to see it.
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got out ahead of it, and he brought up the
sack and the fumble in the Super Bowl, But that's
not what I was getting at. I was talking about
you got sacked nearly five hundred times. What's that one?
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You remember of you know, the physical nature of it.
And then he brought up the Super Bowl. But the
fact that I asked him what was the play call?
Quarterbacks can remember everything. Everything almost feels like he's blocked
that out, that moment out. Really, That's what the first
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thing had struck me is I don't know what it was.
I don't even care what it was. But then he
knew that he that could have been a touchdown pass
to his tout tight end.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, and I don't I don't blame him at all
if he did sort of block that out. You know,
you're you're a kid, and you dream your whole life
of getting to that moment, and then that's what happens.
You know, all of your dreams are because when you
made it to the NFL, I mean, that's crazy enough.
But then now you're in the Super Bowl and you're rolling,
you're cooking, You're absolutely destroying the Patriots, you know, I
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mean that must just be crushing.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yes, exactly. You threw four sixty three.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Thousand yards, three hundred and eighty win touchdowns, Pro Bowl
and multiple Pro Bowls MVP. You're two plays away from
taking top down Tom Brady and cruising to the Hall
of Fame, and it was that tenuous.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yes, but you know what, when it comes to the
Hall of Fame, everybody's gonna have fifty thousand yards. The
MVP helps being, you know, being in the Super Bowl helps,
He's likable, he's in the media. Yeah, you know, I'm glad.
I don't have I stressed enough when I was voting
on NBA Awards. I cannot imagine the Hall of Fame
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and just the pressure that you have.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
Yeah, Marvin, it's funny how two like one game can
separate you from being a Hall of Famer or not.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But should one play separate you? Because if he doesn't
have the sack fumble, they probably kick a field goal
and they win that game. So can one play help you?
Can one play hurt you getting into the Hall of
Fame camp on?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah, it shouldn't be that tenuous. It shouldn't be one
play away. It's like you're ignoring everything else. If you
compare regular season stats Matt Ryan to Eli Manning, it's
not that close.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Matt's much better.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Eli wasn't a good I mean, his numbers are just average. Yeah,
he was played a long time, but he he didn't
lead the league in any category but interceptions. But he
won two of the biggest games in NFL history.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
Yes, marm if Eli Manning beats Philip Rivers and Ben
Roethlisberger in his two Super Bowl wins.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Is he a Hall of Famer? Probably? It's New York.
It's New York name, and you know, two super Bowls
aside from what Jim Plunkett. Jim Plunkett would be in
the Football Hall of Fame if I include what he
did at Stanford winning a Heisman. But he did win
two super Bowls. Yeah, I seed.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yeah, it does feel like, yeah, you got one, okay
in a band, but to get two that's a whole
different thing.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, it's tough, it is, and it's painful for me
to go down a painful road for him because I'm
sure it doesn't want to talk about this, and that's
why he brought it up. But I do appreciate getting
out in front of something and Okay, it happened. It's
you know, it's there the elephants in the room. Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Yeah, Marvin, if you're Matt Ryan, would you rather have
lost that game twenty eight to ten being up twenty
eight three.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Mid third quarter? Too? It was like twenty eight three
in the first quarter. Okay, if I'm gonna lose the game,
do I want to lose it where we really are
not a factor in the game, or do I want
to lose it where we're up twenty eight to three.
I probably want to lose twenty eight ten. Yeah, I
think I just want them. Well, they were just a
better team that day. Yes, you know, they were just
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better than us, But the Falcons know they were a
better team that day. Definitely. And Julio Jones catch, yes, yeah, yep,
that would have been one of the greatest, one of
the greatest catches in Super Bowl history because they would
have won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Which is sort of to your point about Matt Ryan
and does that one play keep you out of the
Super Bowl? That that catch was great regardless, but it's
the plays that happened after that catch that diminished that
one's greatness. That's very strange.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But it's like curse Kurse had that great grab on
the ground. Yeah, and if Russell Wilson, you know, they
get a touchdown, then you'll remember that play.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
It's like identical scenarios just about yeah.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah, going back to Russell Wilson, well, Jalen Hurts had
that same type of situation where people will kind of
diminish what he did because he had such a great
defense in a great running game.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, he's not a great regular season quarterback. I mean
his numbers are kind of average. Well, I mean Russell Wilson.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
Russell Wilson wasn't setting the world on fire during the
lesion of Boom Era.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There's a couple of big years there. I don't know
if Jalen Hurts is going to have those kind of years.
I don't I don't know if he throws what did
Russ throw for like thirty five touchdowns a couple of.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Times once led the league with thirty five touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think Jalen Hurts is going to
do that. But you know, we I value leadership as well.
If I look back old school that there's a reason
why Bart stars in the Hall of Fame, Uh, you know,
Bob Greasy, Johnny United is like there is leadership qualities
to that, and I think Jalen Hurts as that. But
(25:00):
I don't know. It's not something tangible where if I'm
voting and I go, yeah, but he was a great leader,
Like we throw that out And I don't know if
we even know what a leader is. I just know
he's really good for that team. He's the right quarterback
for that team.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
Yes, Mark, So Jalen Hurts and the Eagles win the
Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He's probably going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Some guys we look at your stants because we have
to look at your stants. Other guys we look at
accomplishments instead of just mann he threw for five thousand yards.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Yes, but it does feel like we're entering an era,
or in an era of quarterback uncertainty where you could
see somebody getting their second and it's still not being
good enough. Well, that person would be Jalen Hurt. That
person would be Jalen Hurts. Which is unfair, It's very unfair.
(25:52):
But the way that we sort of dissect and judge
quarterbacks week by week, No, you can be an MVP
one week and then overrated the next, and then a
Super Bowl champion and then not a Hall of Famer
and then all within the same breath.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But it sounds strange to say Joe Burrow feels more
like a Hall of Famer than Jalen Hurts. Does, and
it's not fair to Jalen Hurts because he's not asked
to throw forty touchdowns. He doesn't have to. But Jalen Hurts,
you know, even the Super Bowl they lost, he could
have been the MVP. He was that good. He had
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the one fumble, so he's played well. And isn't that
the ultimate compliment test question for a quarterback? How do
you play in a big game?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Yeah, poling, Jalen Hurts could be on the path that
Troy Aikman was on. I know it's a little apples
and oranges, but Troy Aikman his best season was twenty
three touchdown passes. He usually had about fifteen a year.
Troy Aikman has half as many touchdown passes in his
career as Matt Ryan.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
But three rings. It's and with the Cowboys green light.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well yeah, that trump's everybody when you're winning with the
Cowboys and the way they were winning. But even then,
you know they really had to share the spotlight. Now,
Emmett's you know, the all time leader. You had Mike there,
you had personalities, you had coaches, Jimmy Johnson, you had
an owner, and like Troy just did what he was
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asked to do. I think if you said to Troy, hey,
you can throw for forty five touchdowns, you're gonna make
the playoffs, but you're not gonna win a super Bowl,
or you can throw twenty three, you're gonna take that.
So I don't know if they they didn't change their
game plan. Now today's Cowboys with that talent, Emittt's not
the all time leading rusher, and Troy may have one
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hundred more touchdown passes because he would have to have
that many. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
A guy who might be going that direction is Justin
Herbert from the Chargers. His stats were noticeably down last
year in touchdown and yardage. His quarterback rating was way up.
They're going to run the ball with Jim Harbaugh and
he may get to a Super Bowl with forty two
hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns, which would be great.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I want to bring this up. I mentioned the top
of the hour Dean Sanders. He was at the Big
twelve press conference and he was talking about what college
football needs.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
All you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand Darning
and White in the playoffs it's kind of hard to
compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars
of durn freshman class. We're not complaining because all these
coaches up here. A coach at bucks off and given
the right opportunity with the right players and play here
and there, you'll be there. But it's what's going on
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right now don't make sense, and we want to say stuff,
but we're trying to be professional. But you're going to
see the same teams darned at the end, and with
somebody who sneaks up in there. But the team that
pays the more, pays the most, is gonna be then in.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, this is no secret. There is a salary cap,
but that doesn't stomp you know, collectives or boosters from
getting money. It's just going to be under the table.
It'll be back to the way it was years ago
when you paid people under the table you got nil.
But that doesn't matter. You can pay through NI. There's
(29:05):
way too many windows, way, way way too many windows.
By the way, this five and eleven five plus eleven.
What I'm told is that'll be the format in twenty
twenty six. That's expected to be the format for the
playoffs in college football, where you get the five highest
rank conference champions, they get an automatic bid. The remaining
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eleven spots would be filled by at large selections chosen
by the College Football Selection Committee. So it's five plus
eleven Big twelve at ACC they love it. The Big
Ten and SEC do not. They would like to propose
a model that would include four automatic qualifiers for the
Big Ten in four for the SEC, so they would
(29:50):
get half of the bids in a sixteen team playoff. Now,
once again talking to my source today, the five plus
eleven model will win out when the college football playoff
goes to sixteen teams. Also, the revenue share that's in
place has little chance of succeeding. It's opened the door
to excessive payments by collectives and going forward these payments
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will be under the table and not reported. So that's
according to my college football source, probably looking at the
five plus eleven ACC, Big twelve or all for it,
whereas the SEC and Big Ten go we would like
half of the bids for the sixteen team playoff.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Yeah, Pom Dan, maybe they call it five plus ten
plus Notre Dame, because that's how it's going to be
Notre Dame gets nine plus wins, they will put them in.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, yeah they will, but that it's going to happen.
I was told that they're probably going to expand morech
Madness as well. I thought we were going to have
something either last week or this week, but that's what
I was told. I don't know if they're going to
seventy two or seventy six, but I mean, I understand it.
This is about money, that's all. Because the teams that
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you're adding have no chance of winning the title none.
I give you're the seventy first best team, You're not winning.
Now you might make a run, make it interesting, but
this is this is about there's a certain amount of
teams that can win, and then there's a certain amount
of teams that can give you a storyline. Because every
(31:19):
March we have a storyline or two and you go,
oh my god, they're making a run. Oh that player,
I didn't know he was that good. Then it gets
down to the Elite eight Final four and then you go, okay, guys,
you take over. That's what March Madness has become. So look,
if they want to have a bigger I just don't
like the play in games, you're either in the tournament
or you're not. You know, I think it's kind of hey,
(31:41):
you kind of made it, but you didn't. But if
you win, then you're in. And it's like going to
a party, but you don't get to go inside. You're
outside and I'll sneak your drinks and then all of
a sudden, you go, hey, we got a spot in here.
You know Tommy left. You get to go into the
house party.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
Yeah, Paulin the one thing though about the playing game,
it allows them to expand the tournament and not change
the tournament structure of sixty four. So they'll add playing games,
the pre tournament games, and then you'll still start the
tournament on that Thursday with sixty four teams, and you'll
still have that same bracket look and the same sixteen
seed one seed. That's what these playing games allows.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Yeah, Mark, going forward, and I've always hated this, those
small those sixteen seeds that are playing Alabama A and
M against Corpus Christy A and M playing in Dayton. No, no, no, no,
those should be for the bubble teams that just got
in Providence versus you know, Ole miss. Those people should
be in Dayton not the guys that won their tournament.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
If you win your tournament, you should be so you're
in the bubble teams could be the play in if
you want to, or those first two nights.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Yes see, right, but maybe there is a way where
you start it, like even before the season ends, right,
there's a way that you could do a tournament like
that where it runs throughout the entire season, the actual
basketball season, so you're play your conference games or non
conference games, and then the actual tournament too, where if
you won your say your conference last year, you've already
(33:10):
qualified to be in the tournament this next year. Oh
so you sort of likee you win your way in
by say, the year before, and then that would actually
help because you know you're already in the tournament.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That helps you with recruiting.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
So like the smaller schools like that, they would be
able to compete more. Possibly I'm just spitball, I'm just
throwing this out, but it's you might be able to
recruit better knowing that you're already in the tournament next year.
That helps you get a better caliber player, and then
that helps level the playing field a little bit more
compared to the people that are spending that much money.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, you're just gonna have the haves in the have nons.
It's just that's the way life. You know, the same
schools are going to be spending the same amount, they're
going to spend more than other. It won't happen until
everybody has a level playing field with schedules. Certainly with
college football, that's where you go. You're gonna play X
number of teams in your division and then you'll play
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that division. It'll be the NFL model. And until you
get that, everything is subjective. I mean, I don't know
how good Arizona State or Boise State were. I love
that they got the opportunity. They shouldn't have been an
automatic qualifier. But you know, college football is, it's fluid.
It's still moving of trying to figure out because everybody
(34:25):
now realizes the amount of money that's at stake here
and how they had their heads in the sand for
so many years, where hey, it's going to be this
school and this school for the national title, and then
it's gonna be no, we're gonna okay, we'll do four
teams and I go. As soon as you guys look
at the bottom line, you're gonna go how many teams
do we want to have here? And now we're going
(34:46):
to go up to sixteen probably next year. Take a break,
Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
store tomorrow? And a reminder celebrity family feud tonight. Hope
you're having a watch party to watch us taking on
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Speaker 1 (35:02):
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Speaker 2 (35:12):
Last call for phone calls, What we learn, what's in
store tomorrow? All that coming up, It flies by quickly,
and uh, it's fun to have people here coming off
the driving range or you know, if they're on the
putting green, And uh, yeah, I was just wondering favorite
favorite moment of today, PAULI go first.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Oh, it's a tough one, but I'm going to go
with when we had Grant Hill on today. You know,
I'm getting more into these days, not Michael Jordan's stories.
I feel like I've heard them all, Kobe Bryant's stories,
and now that Kobe's gone, when I hear Kobe Bryant
stories a lot of them are the same about his
competitive nature, and Grant said, we were practice number two
a team USA.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
And Kobe's like, let's go. Let's He's like, let's go,
and it's practice. And I'm fascinated by Kobe Bryant. I
love the stories, but.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't think you can you can play. Don't you
can turn it off or have it on just a
little bit. I think the light is either really bright
or it's off. I was always amazed with Troy Polamalo.
Whenever we have him on. He was the most soft,
low key person, and then you see him on a
(36:16):
football field and he's maniacal. He's all over the place.
That ability, Like, I envy those people who can turn
it off. It's the people Michael Jordan can't turn it off.
He's that's the way he is on the court. Off
the court, I mean, he's he's going to be able
to kind of use that and he's going to kill you.
(36:36):
He's going to go out now, Lebron. It feels like
on the court and he's one person. Off the court,
he's somebody else. And maybe Kobe was like that outside
of basketball. You know your father, you've got daughters, you
know you can't be that competitive guy, but you're just
around certain people like Grant Hill could not be nicer.
But then he was saying, you know, don't don't mistake
(36:57):
niceness for weakness, and I thought it was a great line.
Your favorite moment, Marvin, You know what, just seeing Grant Hill.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
Grant Hill has one of those interesting careers where he's
a Hall of Famer, but there's still a what if
quality because even after the show or after his segment,
we talked about what he was the first maybe five
or six years in Detroit where he was a top
five player in the league. And I don't know, people
are going to kill me for this. He was Lebron
(37:25):
before Lebron six' eight and could do. Everything So Grant
hill is my.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Favorite, yeah he still battles with that, ankle you know
WHAT i, mean you could see. It it looks. Swollen. Yeah,
yeah and you're right he, SAID i had three. CAREERS
i had a pretty high level and THEN i was
kind of in that middle and then at the End
i'm kind of hanging. On but, yeah you, know talking
(37:50):
about those moments and you don't realize you see some
of those highlights and all of a sudden it's, like,
yeah it's. Right and you know he was gonna be
the Next. Jordan that was the big. Thing everybody was
the Next, Jordan jasey, McGrady the Next, Jordan Penny, hardaway
the Next. Jordan there was there's no Next. Jordan like
when they wanted to Do Anthony. EDWARDS i go, stop
just just. Stop he could be the Next. Jordan no he's.
(38:14):
Not he might be the First Anthony. Edwards that would
be good. Enough don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
THAT i could.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Stop.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Yes and the funny thing Is Grant hill's rookie year
was ninety, four ninety. Five jordan wasn't in the league.
Anymore So Grant hill got up the superstar status right
away because we're looking for a, guy good, looking, guy
clean cut and could.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Play, yeah you know it was me for HIM a
seating favorite.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Moment, well the ones of those guys just had were,
really really.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
GOOD i really Enjoyed Grant hill a.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
LOT i think THE i was you know, WHAT i
really like the miz he uh that was like a
big SUPER i don't know a lot about. HIM i
don't really follow. WRESTLING i do actually remember him FROM,
mtv believe it or. Not but he, uh he just
had a certain enthusiasm for life and like a zest
for life that was really. INFECTIOUS i was, like, dang,
MAN i hope that dude does it really well in.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Life you, know he he doesn't have anybody around. Him
he's out on the driving range or playing. Go there's
NO pr team or. Anything he's a WALKING pr. Machine
And i'm not the big wrestling, fan But i'm a
fan of somebody who bet on themselves and became something
he was on the real, world and then all of
a sudden creates a character and then for five years
(39:28):
learns how to develop the character and be a, wrestler
and then all of a, sudden you're Fighting John cena
at ww.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
Title like he could have just as easily been a
character from Like jackass or something, too you know where
you're like him And Johnny knoxville are run, around you,
know hitting each other in the nuts or. Something he
could have done that, too but, he like what he's
been able to accomplish to your point is.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Remarkable, YEAH i like that. Dude let me bring in
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Speaker 5 (40:00):
Day By Jay zy My, Man beautiful day out here In. TAHOE.
I it is a bucket. Listing everybody has to check this.
Out last night playing craps With Zach levine excuse, me
and and blackjack with the guys from part of my,
(40:23):
Take but the highlight of the night has to be
learning bubble craps FROM.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Mf dylan And Pa. Ray it. Was it was. Awesome thank,
You thank you. All, Yeah dylan's been out and about
with his Friend. Ray. Yeah so glad They're i'm glad
they're making an impact This dane, SPORTS, pauli do you have? Anything,
YES i got.
Speaker 9 (40:48):
One Arthur ash into The Tennis hall Of fame this
day and sports And Dwight gooden's Youngest All star ever
nineteen and a half years old.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
On this, Date Phil jackson hired by The Chicago. Bulls
oh how did that work? Out, yeah let's go around the.
Room what we learned on the. Program, Marvin i'm gonna
start with. You what did you learn? Today you didn't
have an office AT espn for ten. YEARS i, know,
well fire hazard we can't give. You and you Know
i've said some things on pardon my. Take, Look i've
(41:18):
been gone FROM espn for eighteen. YEARS i would not
be in this position WITHOUT. Espn i'm very, fortunate but you,
know WHEN i, left it was a bad. Situation but,
boohoo we're all. Good thanks for joining. Us that work, Out,
YEAH i don't. KNOW i still don't know how that
worked out For paul's seat And marv the brg's family
(41:42):
feud coming up. Tonight we'll talk about it. Tomorrow till,
then have a great, day. Everybody
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
This Thursday, like Tahoe the American Century Golf Championship, beautiful
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same thing, because every day it feels like it's forty
degrees at four thirty in the morning and then it's
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(00:25):
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I got some information on the college football playoffs for
twenty twenty six. Dean Sanders talked yesterday at the Big
twelve media day about college football needing a salary cap.
You have a salary cap. The problem is there's always
(00:46):
going to be illegal payments here, collectibles, you know, collectives there.
They're always there's always going to be that possibility that
doesn't go away just because there's nil not going to happen.
But I'll bring back what Dion said yesterday, and then
I got some information on twenty twenty six with the
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him last night and he said, I'm going to be
telling all kinds of stories when I join you on
the program. Is Matt ready to go? Paul? Yes, we
need to escort Matt Ryan up here. How about a
round of applause for the man they call Matty eyes
tall and lean. Yes, yeah, how were we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Looks like he's dropped like fifteen twenty pounds. You're just
a we see this with offensive and defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
No, yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Not as muscular, a little softer around the edges, but
a little lighter.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But did you try to purposely bulk up when I played?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
For me, it was always difficult to keep the weight
on just by kind of you know, my frame or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was. It was work to try.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And get to two twenty two seventeen is what I
played at and I probably way about two or five now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So but you just see quarterbacks like rag dolls. But
then you see those quarterbacks in person, and like Trevor
Lawrence is a big guy, no doubt you've seen him
last night.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean Trevor is I mean he is put together, yeah,
and just broad shouldered big. And you know we were
talking about Cam Newton last night too, same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Played against him in Division.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I remember meeting him for the first time and being like,
we played the same position.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Man?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
He looks like the dns that I go against.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So yes, yeah, it's it's there's some some big guys,
but you know I was able to do it pretty
well at my size and made it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Work for me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But is there you know you see Peyton and Brady
and they would kind of go in the fetal position
if they were going to be sacked. Yeah that's okay,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Listen, Your your best ability is availability right when you
can play. Yeah, so Tom and Peyton they kind of
had that down to a science.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I you know, I was kind of in.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That era of quarterbacks just right after them. Right, So
I had watched them play in the NFL for seven
eight years, nine years before I got there, and then
you know, played. I guess Tom played longer than me.
He still was playing after I was done.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But do you think he could still play?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think he could.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, I think the way he takes care of himself,
it looks like like he looks he looks more fit
now than he's ever ever been. And so, you know,
and I think the style with which he played leads
to being able to play longer, right, not moving around,
not having to run do all those types of different things.
Because he could still throw it. I mean, he could
still spin it at the end.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh Matt sacked five hundred times, palling.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Four hundred and eighty eight times he was sacked in
his crew.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But you were still pretty good? Look at you?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, I still feel pretty good. I can still swing
the golf club, which is good.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is there one that stands out?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
One sack that stands out?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I mean they all kind of run together when you
get about five hundred of them, but uh, I'd say
the sack fumble in the Super Bowl is probably the
one that listen. I think sometimes I think sometimes you
got to get in front of it.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Right, you're the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You just got to go and go in front of him.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So if you're asking me about one of them, Dan,
I would probably say that's the one I would like
to have not been sacked on. But anyhow, what else
do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Football?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Playoff?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What was what was that play called? So you're in
the huddle and you call that play, what is it?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
That's a good question. I don't remember the exact play
call offhand. I'm always amazed some of these guys that
that can rip back from, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Off the Your guy's memories have to be it's.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's really good. I remember the situation. I remember what
the route we had going on. We had Aldric Robin
run in the corner that was coming out like the
top of this and he was going to be open
like he was. He was going to be open and
trying to hang on for that extra second give him
a chance to.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Make a play.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But would that have been a touchdown?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It would have been a chunk. I think there was
a chance, but it would have been a chunk play
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But you don't remember the call, but I can't remember it.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It was a designer what we call designer calls, So
it was like a specific play for that week, for
that situation. So it wasn't like you know, gun trips
right three jet jaws ex Drift, which was one of
our staple plays. It was a designer play for that week.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Give us give us a call though that wo might
surprise us the depth of it that you're trying to
absorb if you're you know, a wide receiver running back.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I mean there's I'm trying to think of staple plays,
but like where it gets word, he's in the run
game than canning or killing or checking or whatever you
want to a pass play.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So you know we'd have like west rd.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Zoom zy Wright nineteen want to force, can you know,
can gun three scat you know X whole space.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's one play.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's one play, and so.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, I mean it's I heard you read the
little script coming on here. That was more impressive to
me than calling a play. Right now that I've done
TV and I've seen the prompter and having to come
in and done some of those things, I find that
far more difficult than than regurgitating a play.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Called Matt Ryan joining us on the program. Yeah, you
start to think about making the transition. When did you
think about going from playing to then broadcasting?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, I had listen.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I've always had fun coming on shows with you or
with different guys, and I had the opportunity a couple
of times while I was playing to go in and
do some studio work, one with CBS, one with ESPN,
and I enjoyed it, but I really didn't think about
it until I was done, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
My last year in Indy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Was a difficult year for the organization, for myself, for
everybody that was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And so.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
After that, I got back to Atlanta after that season
and was kind of talking with my wife about what
we wanted to do moving forward.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
My wife was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
With my youngest son at the time, and it seemed like,
you know, it probably a good time to be rooted
and home, and that's where we started to explore some options.
I was really lucky got hired by CBS called Games
for the first year, which was an absolute blast, a
ton of fun doing that, and then moved into the
studio the next year. So it kind of happened faster
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than I thought. It wasn't something like I was planning
as a player, this is it, this is where I'm
going when I'm done.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was, you know, wondering about this though. When you
get towards the end of when do you know you're
at the end of your career.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
There were a handful of times in India I knew it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Was this is probably it okay? But was it because
of you?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I still think I had gas left in the tank
right to be able to play. That year was a
strange year, like Frank Wright being fired and Jeff Saturday
coming in and I got benched and then came back
and played a little bit and just kind of the
whole the whole deal, and then being away. My wife
was pregnant with my youngest son, so they were back
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in Atlanta. She was there kind of visiting with doctors
there and they were back and forth, that whole kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It wasn't like a wake up.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It was just kind of a slow drip to you know,
and I think my life's moving in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did you ever think about trying to join the Eagles?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I no, never, seriously.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I grew up but like I played against them enough
that they soon did not become my team, right, so
we you know, it's stuff like the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Could I have played for the Steelers? Uh? Yeah, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I think your allegiances, your childhood allegiances, Yeah, go out
the wayside the minute you get drafted or you get
you know, you put into a building. And so particularly
I think when you play for an organization as long
as I did in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know, my we got a little chipmunk running around there. Yes,
wildlife on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We had dog go fers had I'm sniffing dogs up
there earlier. Yeah, we got it all.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Going to love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. We're talking to Matt Ryan. I was wondering about
Kirk Cousins in the situation that he's in now. He
said he was kind of blindsided with the whole Michael
Pennix raft pit. What do you do in a situation now?
You can't feel sorry for him from the standpoint of
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. Sure, but he does want
to play. Yeah, I don't know if he no other
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team was interested because of the one hundred million dollars guarantee.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, I mean that's that is Listen, I get both
sides of it, right, I get I get the frustration
from Kirk's end, right, you would you would hope for
transparency coming into a situation of what the plan is
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Hey, why are you bringing me in? Is there? You know?
What kind of runway are we looking at here? With?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
With myself, I think from the Falcons perspective, that was
such a deep draft at quarterback, you know, and I
think that as I've been removed as a player, my
player side of me goes right to Kirk. Of of course
I'd be pissed too, right, you know you're in that situation.
I think that's a natural competitor's reaction, like what are
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we doing?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We've got other spots we could go.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You've heard other quarterbacks say that in buildings where they've
been established in their drafting young quarterbacks, saying what are
we doing? We can add value at different spots. So
I think Kirk coming in feeling like he had a
four or five year runway to play there and then
them going in a different direction was probably difficult is
difficult for him. But I get the organization standpoint, because
I do think you know, when you look at last
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year's draft, the depth of that quarterback position, and then
projecting forward right what the next two or three drafts
are going to look like, and hoping that you're not
in a position to draft early.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's the position you've got to take care of.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And if you're defending the Falcons, which you know I'm
biased because I'm played there so long and root for
them and all those kind of things, you have to
get that position right right, and you have to get
it right and when you've got the opportun unity to
acquire somebody who I think is really talented. I think
Michael Penix has a lot of talent, and I think
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he played really well at the end.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Of the year. You got to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But how did the Niners miss on trade lands? How
does that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, they're not the only ones you missed on quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
When you trade up and you whiff on a guy, yeah,
it's and I just thought he didn't have enough starts.
I needed a larger sample size.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
What you know, you go specifically to Michael Pennox. I
think one of the things you look at when you
draft a guy like that is, yes, there were injury
concerns and me and those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But there was there was a large body of work Indiana.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, And I remember the old Bill Parcells. You know,
the checklist for drafting quarterbacks was three year starters and
all this, and you know, whatever the checklist was, but
it was he wanted a sample size. And I think
that's gotten increasingly more difficult. You guys are talking about
the college football playoff coming in, but the portal, people
moving around, people getting out of there more and more,
I think it's hard to get I had a big
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sample size of quarterbacks at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
When you look at your resume, do you see Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I've been asked this, and I don't think there's any
great way to kind of dot it. I'm proud of
what I did, you know, and it's not for me
to decide. But if you were going to convince me,
if I were going to convince you, Let's say I'm
a voter, the numbers are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, you got the MVP, sure, and you played in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
If you win, this all goes back to that sack.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Damn it all goes back to that sack, all right,
that one sack you wanted to talk and you.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Have one of the great completions that people forget about
towards the end of that game.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I was one half of that. The other half was
pretty good too. Jones was pretty good on the other
end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's there's so many like plays that God forgotten in
super Bowls because you didn't win Seattle. Who was the
guy forgotten? Yeah, one of the great catches in super
Bowl history. And we're like, oh, yeah, that's right. And
Julio made that grab, and I go, he just won
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the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's kind of what I was thinking to myself, but.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It didn't quite shake out that way. But I think
you're a Hall of Famer. But you know, it's tricky,
like somebody says, is Russell Wilson hall of Famer? Is
Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer? Like I would never
want to vote on this because this is you're changing lives. Sure, sure,
so you got whatever forty five guys who are in
there arguing back and forth, and then you know, you
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start to promote and then you denigrate somebody, and like
it is Russell Wilson playing himself out of the Hall
of Fame with the way he's played since Denver and
you know now with Pittsburgh and then New York.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think you talk about his body
of work and the consistency for the better part of
a decade and what they did in Seattle, I mean, yeah,
I think there's a lot of guys that probably didn't play.
You think of Joe Namath or Johnny and Idis in
different uniforms at the end, they're Hall of Famers, right,
and they certainly didn't play themselves out of it. But
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you know, I think when you talk about Russ, there
was so much that he did and it was so
consistent for so long. To me, whether it's the Hall
of Fame discussion or whether it's players or whatever, the
thing I've always been most impressed with is guys that
do it for a long time at the same level,
over and over and over, and you can you can
kind of check mark what they're gonna do when they
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go out there and perform. I think that's one of
the things, regardless of sport, that I've always admired.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, you look at Eli. Eli's numbers are average clutch clutch, Yes, Yes,
he beat Tom Brady twice. Yes, that's why he's the
Hall of Fame I'll put.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Everybody in, man, I'll put everybody in there.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Joe Flacco going in well. I love Joe, I love Joe,
and Joe is a good friend of mine. But of
Philip Rivers, I believe.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean you talk about is a really interesting time
the league was changing, right. You go from the mid
two thousands to really twenty twenty, and the league changed
into that past first type of offense. And you have
about eight or ten guys that put up numbers that
are in the top ten of the history of the
league during that short period of time. I don't know
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if we'll see that. I don't know if careers will
go as long as they did. As the style of
quarterback play evolves, right, and the exposure to hits and
running and those kind of things. And you've seen passing
yards come down in the last three or four or
five years, right, It's not you know, we went to
the seventeenth game and you're thinking everybody's going to be
thrown for over five thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You just don't see it.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And so I think the league has evolved into you know,
how they're running the football. I think it's bring those
passing numbers down. So I think the numbers, it was
an interesting time, and I think there were a lot
of good, really good passers in the league at that time.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, can I make this statement?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Can't make any statement?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay, but I want to know if you agree that
Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the NFL, but he's
the quarterback you would want in the biggest game.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There's a lot to that statement.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The second part, yes, right, his track record I believe
has proven that although the Super Bowl, they didn't have
their best performance this past year. But for me, you know, personally,
that doesn't change my opinion of Patrick Mahomes. Right, if
you roll out the ball in the biggest of the
big games, yeah, I think he's the guy that you're
going to take.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know, I think, how are you pigeon holing that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
First part of the statement?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, who's the best quarterback in regular season? Quarterback? Who
is the best quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's a great question. I think you probably still have
to go with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you look, you
look at what they did last year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
See, how would say Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Joe Burrow's excellent. I mean, Joe Burrows.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
He did everything to get them into the playoffs and
could have been an MVP candidate. He played that well.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I certainly agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think Joe or Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think the league's in a great spot right now
with quarterback play, Like I really do.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think it's it's really good.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But if you're asking me one regular season game, I'll
take Patrick.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'll take Patrick Mahomes, all right, fair enough, It's just
just an opinion. Yeah, what's your jacket signs for the
Hall of Fame. So I think that that's what I
told Himbout. Great to see again, Good to see it.
He's Matt Ryan, he promised he was telling stories today.
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got out ahead of it, and he brought up the
sack and the fumble in the Super Bowl, But that's
not what I was getting at. I was talking about
you got sacked nearly five hundred times. What's that one?
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You remember of you know, the physical nature of it.
And then he brought up the Super Bowl. But the
fact that I asked him what was the play call?
Quarterbacks can remember everything. Everything almost feels like he's blocked
that out, that moment out. Really, That's what the first
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thing had struck me is I don't know what it was.
I don't even care what it was. But then he
knew that he that could have been a touchdown pass
to his tout tight end.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, and I don't I don't blame him at all
if he did sort of block that out. You know,
you're you're a kid, and you dream your whole life
of getting to that moment, and then that's what happens.
You know, all of your dreams are because when you
made it to the NFL, I mean, that's crazy enough.
But then now you're in the Super Bowl and you're rolling,
you're cooking, You're absolutely destroying the Patriots, you know, I
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mean that must just be crushing.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yes, exactly. You threw four sixty three.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Thousand yards, three hundred and eighty win touchdowns, Pro Bowl
and multiple Pro Bowls MVP. You're two plays away from
taking top down Tom Brady and cruising to the Hall
of Fame, and it was that tenuous.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yes, but you know what, when it comes to the
Hall of Fame, everybody's gonna have fifty thousand yards. The
MVP helps being, you know, being in the Super Bowl helps,
He's likable, he's in the media. Yeah, you know, I'm glad.
I don't have I stressed enough when I was voting
on NBA Awards. I cannot imagine the Hall of Fame
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and just the pressure that you have.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
Yeah, Marvin, it's funny how two like one game can
separate you from being a Hall of Famer or not.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But should one play separate you? Because if he doesn't
have the sack fumble, they probably kick a field goal
and they win that game. So can one play help you?
Can one play hurt you getting into the Hall of
Fame camp on?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah, it shouldn't be that tenuous. It shouldn't be one
play away. It's like you're ignoring everything else. If you
compare regular season stats Matt Ryan to Eli Manning, it's
not that close.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Matt's much better.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Eli wasn't a good I mean, his numbers are just average. Yeah,
he was played a long time, but he he didn't
lead the league in any category but interceptions. But he
won two of the biggest games in NFL history.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
Yes, marm if Eli Manning beats Philip Rivers and Ben
Roethlisberger in his two Super Bowl wins.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Is he a Hall of Famer? Probably? It's New York.
It's New York name, and you know, two super Bowls
aside from what Jim Plunkett. Jim Plunkett would be in
the Football Hall of Fame if I include what he
did at Stanford winning a Heisman. But he did win
two super Bowls. Yeah, I seed.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yeah, it does feel like, yeah, you got one, okay
in a band, but to get two that's a whole
different thing.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, it's tough, it is, and it's painful for me
to go down a painful road for him because I'm
sure it doesn't want to talk about this, and that's
why he brought it up. But I do appreciate getting
out in front of something and Okay, it happened. It's
you know, it's there the elephants in the room. Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Yeah, Marvin, if you're Matt Ryan, would you rather have
lost that game twenty eight to ten being up twenty
eight three.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Mid third quarter? Too? It was like twenty eight three
in the first quarter. Okay, if I'm gonna lose the game,
do I want to lose it where we really are
not a factor in the game, or do I want
to lose it where we're up twenty eight to three.
I probably want to lose twenty eight ten. Yeah, I
think I just want them. Well, they were just a
better team that day. Yes, you know, they were just
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better than us, But the Falcons know they were a
better team that day. Definitely. And Julio Jones catch, yes, yeah, yep,
that would have been one of the greatest, one of
the greatest catches in Super Bowl history because they would
have won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Which is sort of to your point about Matt Ryan
and does that one play keep you out of the
Super Bowl? That that catch was great regardless, but it's
the plays that happened after that catch that diminished that
one's greatness. That's very strange.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But it's like curse Kurse had that great grab on
the ground. Yeah, and if Russell Wilson, you know, they
get a touchdown, then you'll remember that play.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
It's like identical scenarios just about yeah.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah, going back to Russell Wilson, well, Jalen Hurts had
that same type of situation where people will kind of
diminish what he did because he had such a great
defense in a great running game.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, he's not a great regular season quarterback. I mean
his numbers are kind of average. Well, I mean Russell Wilson.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
Russell Wilson wasn't setting the world on fire during the
lesion of Boom Era.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There's a couple of big years there. I don't know
if Jalen Hurts is going to have those kind of years.
I don't I don't know if he throws what did
Russ throw for like thirty five touchdowns a couple of.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Times once led the league with thirty five touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think Jalen Hurts is going to
do that. But you know, we I value leadership as well.
If I look back old school that there's a reason
why Bart stars in the Hall of Fame, Uh, you know,
Bob Greasy, Johnny United is like there is leadership qualities
to that, and I think Jalen Hurts as that. But
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I don't know. It's not something tangible where if I'm
voting and I go, yeah, but he was a great leader,
Like we throw that out And I don't know if
we even know what a leader is. I just know
he's really good for that team. He's the right quarterback
for that team.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
Yes, Mark, So Jalen Hurts and the Eagles win the
Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He's probably going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Some guys we look at your stants because we have
to look at your stants. Other guys we look at
accomplishments instead of just mann he threw for five thousand yards.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Yes, but it does feel like we're entering an era,
or in an era of quarterback uncertainty where you could
see somebody getting their second and it's still not being
good enough. Well, that person would be Jalen Hurt. That
person would be Jalen Hurts. Which is unfair, It's very unfair.
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But the way that we sort of dissect and judge
quarterbacks week by week, No, you can be an MVP
one week and then overrated the next, and then a
Super Bowl champion and then not a Hall of Famer
and then all within the same breath.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But it sounds strange to say Joe Burrow feels more
like a Hall of Famer than Jalen Hurts. Does, and
it's not fair to Jalen Hurts because he's not asked
to throw forty touchdowns. He doesn't have to. But Jalen Hurts,
you know, even the Super Bowl they lost, he could
have been the MVP. He was that good. He had
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the one fumble, so he's played well. And isn't that
the ultimate compliment test question for a quarterback? How do
you play in a big game?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Yeah, poling, Jalen Hurts could be on the path that
Troy Aikman was on. I know it's a little apples
and oranges, but Troy Aikman his best season was twenty
three touchdown passes. He usually had about fifteen a year.
Troy Aikman has half as many touchdown passes in his
career as Matt Ryan.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
But three rings. It's and with the Cowboys green light.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well yeah, that trump's everybody when you're winning with the
Cowboys and the way they were winning. But even then,
you know they really had to share the spotlight. Now,
Emmett's you know, the all time leader. You had Mike there,
you had personalities, you had coaches, Jimmy Johnson, you had
an owner, and like Troy just did what he was
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asked to do. I think if you said to Troy, hey,
you can throw for forty five touchdowns, you're gonna make
the playoffs, but you're not gonna win a super Bowl,
or you can throw twenty three, you're gonna take that.
So I don't know if they they didn't change their
game plan. Now today's Cowboys with that talent, Emittt's not
the all time leading rusher, and Troy may have one
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hundred more touchdown passes because he would have to have
that many. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
A guy who might be going that direction is Justin
Herbert from the Chargers. His stats were noticeably down last
year in touchdown and yardage. His quarterback rating was way up.
They're going to run the ball with Jim Harbaugh and
he may get to a Super Bowl with forty two
hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns, which would be great.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I want to bring this up. I mentioned the top
of the hour Dean Sanders. He was at the Big
twelve press conference and he was talking about what college
football needs.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
All you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand Darning
and White in the playoffs it's kind of hard to
compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars
of durn freshman class. We're not complaining because all these
coaches up here. A coach at bucks off and given
the right opportunity with the right players and play here
and there, you'll be there. But it's what's going on
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right now don't make sense, and we want to say stuff,
but we're trying to be professional. But you're going to
see the same teams darned at the end, and with
somebody who sneaks up in there. But the team that
pays the more, pays the most, is gonna be then in.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, this is no secret. There is a salary cap,
but that doesn't stomp you know, collectives or boosters from
getting money. It's just going to be under the table.
It'll be back to the way it was years ago
when you paid people under the table you got nil.
But that doesn't matter. You can pay through NI. There's
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way too many windows, way, way way too many windows.
By the way, this five and eleven five plus eleven.
What I'm told is that'll be the format in twenty
twenty six. That's expected to be the format for the
playoffs in college football, where you get the five highest
rank conference champions, they get an automatic bid. The remaining
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eleven spots would be filled by at large selections chosen
by the College Football Selection Committee. So it's five plus
eleven Big twelve at ACC they love it. The Big
Ten and SEC do not. They would like to propose
a model that would include four automatic qualifiers for the
Big Ten in four for the SEC, so they would
(29:50):
get half of the bids in a sixteen team playoff. Now,
once again talking to my source today, the five plus
eleven model will win out when the college football playoff
goes to sixteen teams. Also, the revenue share that's in
place has little chance of succeeding. It's opened the door
to excessive payments by collectives and going forward these payments
(30:13):
will be under the table and not reported. So that's
according to my college football source, probably looking at the
five plus eleven ACC, Big twelve or all for it,
whereas the SEC and Big Ten go we would like
half of the bids for the sixteen team playoff.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Yeah, Pom Dan, maybe they call it five plus ten
plus Notre Dame, because that's how it's going to be
Notre Dame gets nine plus wins, they will put them in.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, yeah they will, but that it's going to happen.
I was told that they're probably going to expand morech
Madness as well. I thought we were going to have
something either last week or this week, but that's what
I was told. I don't know if they're going to
seventy two or seventy six, but I mean, I understand it.
This is about money, that's all. Because the teams that
(30:59):
you're adding have no chance of winning the title none.
I give you're the seventy first best team, You're not winning.
Now you might make a run, make it interesting, but
this is this is about there's a certain amount of
teams that can win, and then there's a certain amount
of teams that can give you a storyline. Because every
(31:19):
March we have a storyline or two and you go,
oh my god, they're making a run. Oh that player,
I didn't know he was that good. Then it gets
down to the Elite eight Final four and then you go, okay, guys,
you take over. That's what March Madness has become. So look,
if they want to have a bigger I just don't
like the play in games, you're either in the tournament
or you're not. You know, I think it's kind of hey,
(31:41):
you kind of made it, but you didn't. But if
you win, then you're in. And it's like going to
a party, but you don't get to go inside. You're
outside and I'll sneak your drinks and then all of
a sudden, you go, hey, we got a spot in here.
You know Tommy left. You get to go into the
house party.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
Yeah, Paulin the one thing though about the playing game,
it allows them to expand the tournament and not change
the tournament structure of sixty four. So they'll add playing games,
the pre tournament games, and then you'll still start the
tournament on that Thursday with sixty four teams, and you'll
still have that same bracket look and the same sixteen
seed one seed. That's what these playing games allows.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Yeah, Mark, going forward, and I've always hated this, those
small those sixteen seeds that are playing Alabama A and
M against Corpus Christy A and M playing in Dayton. No, no, no, no,
those should be for the bubble teams that just got
in Providence versus you know, Ole miss. Those people should
be in Dayton not the guys that won their tournament.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
If you win your tournament, you should be so you're
in the bubble teams could be the play in if
you want to, or those first two nights.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Yes see, right, but maybe there is a way where
you start it, like even before the season ends, right,
there's a way that you could do a tournament like
that where it runs throughout the entire season, the actual
basketball season, so you're play your conference games or non
conference games, and then the actual tournament too, where if
you won your say your conference last year, you've already
(33:10):
qualified to be in the tournament this next year. Oh
so you sort of likee you win your way in
by say, the year before, and then that would actually
help because you know you're already in the tournament.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That helps you with recruiting.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
So like the smaller schools like that, they would be
able to compete more. Possibly I'm just spitball, I'm just
throwing this out, but it's you might be able to
recruit better knowing that you're already in the tournament next year.
That helps you get a better caliber player, and then
that helps level the playing field a little bit more
compared to the people that are spending that much money.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, you're just gonna have the haves in the have nons.
It's just that's the way life. You know, the same
schools are going to be spending the same amount, they're
going to spend more than other. It won't happen until
everybody has a level playing field with schedules. Certainly with
college football, that's where you go. You're gonna play X
number of teams in your division and then you'll play
(34:04):
that division. It'll be the NFL model. And until you
get that, everything is subjective. I mean, I don't know
how good Arizona State or Boise State were. I love
that they got the opportunity. They shouldn't have been an
automatic qualifier. But you know, college football is, it's fluid.
It's still moving of trying to figure out because everybody
(34:25):
now realizes the amount of money that's at stake here
and how they had their heads in the sand for
so many years, where hey, it's going to be this
school and this school for the national title, and then
it's gonna be no, we're gonna okay, we'll do four
teams and I go. As soon as you guys look
at the bottom line, you're gonna go how many teams
do we want to have here? And now we're going
(34:46):
to go up to sixteen probably next year. Take a break,
Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
store tomorrow? And a reminder celebrity family feud tonight. Hope
you're having a watch party to watch us taking on
the Rich Eisen Show. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Last call for phone calls, What we learn, what's in
store tomorrow? All that coming up, It flies by quickly,
and uh, it's fun to have people here coming off
the driving range or you know, if they're on the
putting green, And uh, yeah, I was just wondering favorite
favorite moment of today, PAULI go first.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Oh, it's a tough one, but I'm going to go
with when we had Grant Hill on today. You know,
I'm getting more into these days, not Michael Jordan's stories.
I feel like I've heard them all, Kobe Bryant's stories,
and now that Kobe's gone, when I hear Kobe Bryant
stories a lot of them are the same about his
competitive nature, and Grant said, we were practice number two
a team USA.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
And Kobe's like, let's go. Let's He's like, let's go,
and it's practice. And I'm fascinated by Kobe Bryant. I
love the stories, but.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't think you can you can play. Don't you
can turn it off or have it on just a
little bit. I think the light is either really bright
or it's off. I was always amazed with Troy Polamalo.
Whenever we have him on. He was the most soft,
low key person, and then you see him on a
(36:16):
football field and he's maniacal. He's all over the place.
That ability, Like, I envy those people who can turn
it off. It's the people Michael Jordan can't turn it off.
He's that's the way he is on the court. Off
the court, I mean, he's he's going to be able
to kind of use that and he's going to kill you.
(36:36):
He's going to go out now, Lebron. It feels like
on the court and he's one person. Off the court,
he's somebody else. And maybe Kobe was like that outside
of basketball. You know your father, you've got daughters, you
know you can't be that competitive guy, but you're just
around certain people like Grant Hill could not be nicer.
But then he was saying, you know, don't don't mistake
(36:57):
niceness for weakness, and I thought it was a great line.
Your favorite moment, Marvin, You know what, just seeing Grant Hill.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
Grant Hill has one of those interesting careers where he's
a Hall of Famer, but there's still a what if
quality because even after the show or after his segment,
we talked about what he was the first maybe five
or six years in Detroit where he was a top
five player in the league. And I don't know, people
are going to kill me for this. He was Lebron
(37:25):
before Lebron six' eight and could do. Everything So Grant
hill is my.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Favorite, yeah he still battles with that, ankle you know
WHAT i, mean you could see. It it looks. Swollen. Yeah,
yeah and you're right he, SAID i had three. CAREERS
i had a pretty high level and THEN i was
kind of in that middle and then at the End
i'm kind of hanging. On but, yeah you, know talking
(37:50):
about those moments and you don't realize you see some
of those highlights and all of a sudden it's, like,
yeah it's. Right and you know he was gonna be
the Next. Jordan that was the big. Thing everybody was
the Next, Jordan jasey, McGrady the Next, Jordan Penny, hardaway
the Next. Jordan there was there's no Next. Jordan like
when they wanted to Do Anthony. EDWARDS i go, stop
just just. Stop he could be the Next. Jordan no he's.
(38:14):
Not he might be the First Anthony. Edwards that would
be good. Enough don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
THAT i could.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Stop.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Yes and the funny thing Is Grant hill's rookie year
was ninety, four ninety. Five jordan wasn't in the league.
Anymore So Grant hill got up the superstar status right
away because we're looking for a, guy good, looking, guy
clean cut and could.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Play, yeah you know it was me for HIM a
seating favorite.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Moment, well the ones of those guys just had were,
really really.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
GOOD i really Enjoyed Grant hill a.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
LOT i think THE i was you know, WHAT i
really like the miz he uh that was like a
big SUPER i don't know a lot about. HIM i
don't really follow. WRESTLING i do actually remember him FROM,
mtv believe it or. Not but he, uh he just
had a certain enthusiasm for life and like a zest
for life that was really. INFECTIOUS i was, like, dang,
MAN i hope that dude does it really well in.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Life you, know he he doesn't have anybody around. Him
he's out on the driving range or playing. Go there's
NO pr team or. Anything he's a WALKING pr. Machine
And i'm not the big wrestling, fan But i'm a
fan of somebody who bet on themselves and became something
he was on the real, world and then all of
a sudden creates a character and then for five years
(39:28):
learns how to develop the character and be a, wrestler
and then all of a, sudden you're Fighting John cena
at ww.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
Title like he could have just as easily been a
character from Like jackass or something, too you know where
you're like him And Johnny knoxville are run, around you,
know hitting each other in the nuts or. Something he
could have done that, too but, he like what he's
been able to accomplish to your point is.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Remarkable, YEAH i like that. Dude let me bring in
al In california Or. CALIFORNIA i l.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Day By Jay zy My, Man beautiful day out here In. TAHOE.
I it is a bucket. Listing everybody has to check this.
Out last night playing craps With Zach levine excuse, me
and and blackjack with the guys from part of my,
(40:23):
Take but the highlight of the night has to be
learning bubble craps FROM.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Mf dylan And Pa. Ray it. Was it was. Awesome thank,
You thank you. All, Yeah dylan's been out and about
with his Friend. Ray. Yeah so glad They're i'm glad
they're making an impact This dane, SPORTS, pauli do you have? Anything,
YES i got.
Speaker 9 (40:48):
One Arthur ash into The Tennis hall Of fame this
day and sports And Dwight gooden's Youngest All star ever
nineteen and a half years old.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
On this, Date Phil jackson hired by The Chicago. Bulls
oh how did that work? Out, yeah let's go around the.
Room what we learned on the. Program, Marvin i'm gonna
start with. You what did you learn? Today you didn't
have an office AT espn for ten. YEARS i, know,
well fire hazard we can't give. You and you Know
i've said some things on pardon my. Take, Look i've
(41:18):
been gone FROM espn for eighteen. YEARS i would not
be in this position WITHOUT. Espn i'm very, fortunate but you,
know WHEN i, left it was a bad. Situation but,
boohoo we're all. Good thanks for joining. Us that work, Out,
YEAH i don't. KNOW i still don't know how that
worked out For paul's seat And marv the brg's family
(41:42):
feud coming up. Tonight we'll talk about it. Tomorrow till,
then have a great, day. Everybody
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