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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's the final hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the
Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. Thank you for the phone calls,
people reminiscing about Bill Walton with their favorite memories and
of course Bill menon awful lot to me and the
show not him for thirty years. And yesterday was a
sad day, but it turned into a better day because
I started to think about Bill, his personality and how
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he would never want somebody to feel sorry for him.
But a lot of great memories there. Wonderful player, wonderful
person broadcaster as well. We'll do best and worst of
the weekend. The front Road didn't get their opportunity. Last
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Of the program.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I think I know this is a snarky one,
so you know, coming from Paul, I think I know
who this is in reference to, all right, would you
rather be considered great at your job and fired prematurely
or be terrible at your job and keep working for decades?
That's not very nice, It's fair fair estimation. Being fired
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prematurely is the worst. If you're good at your job
and then like you just run into a bad boss
or something.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, there were people at ESPN that the better they
were at their job, the more vulnerable they were because
they made more money. I remember some of my friends.
They were like, I got fired, and I go, how
could they fire you? Well, I didn't get fired. I
got laid off because I think I was too good
at my job. Well there's a lot of people in
this industry too that fail upwards too. That is a
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very common practice.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yes, it's like, as long as you're a good like
corporate soldier, you just keep rising right up, no matter
how terrible you are at what you do.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You don't want to be noticed, like you're always in
the room.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You just nobody notices you, and then you could keep
your job that way, all right? Eight seven seven three
DP show email address dpadan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle
it dp show Marvin Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Uh, best of the weekend. I watched a documentary on
Stax Records watching it now, Okay, it's really really good.
Otis writing was on there, Isaac Hayes, Booker t and IMGs.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So you have this couple, a white couple in Memphis,
and they had a record store. Then all of a
sudden they were going to produce records, and all of
a sudden you had all of these black artists who
were looking for an outlet, and they had some famous artists,
including Otis Redding, And they have video of them recording,
you know, sitting on the dock of the bay, and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
It is it's great to see. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And uh, just the fact that you know, the husband
is still alive and he's recounting everything that happened. Artists
that you know, they brought in that became legendary singers.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What else, Marv.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Worse of the weekend? Our boy, the game changer. Karl
Anthony town is going zero for eight for three point
range in game three.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, he's shooting eleven percent from three point range. I
get some point. Do you just say you're seven feet
Why don't you go down there, Why don't you get
a couple of hoops? Nothing helps you better confidence wise
then going to the free throw line or getting a layup,
anything that kind of breaks that kind of skid that
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you're on, because if you're going to keep shooting and
keep missing, then all of a sudden, now when you
get it, you start to hesitate a little, Oh should
I shoot? You never want to be thinking out there,
and Karl Anthony Towns has got to be thinking, well,
maybe he's not. Maybe needs to think I shouldn't be
taking these threes because that has been costly for them.
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When you realize the average margin of victory for Dallas
has been a little over four points. All you need
is an average Karl Anthony Towns and you're in this series. Paulie,
Best and worst to the weekend.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Worst of the weekend and calling it over the weekend
is just being nice. The Chicago White Sox, they'd lost
nine to ten. They are now fifteen and forty on
the season. They're twenty one games out of first and
it's not even June. They've been outscored by one hundred
and twenty runs. To put it in perspective, the Oakland
A's are way better than them. The Oakland A's, who
are trying to leave and aren't fielding a competitive team,
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have been outscored by sixty three runs.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Just two years ago.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
The Chicago White Sox at this time were predicted to
be one of the top four teams in the league
the preseason twenty twenty two, second only in talent and
promised to the Dodgers. That was two years ago, that
an embarrassment that franchise will become best of the weekend.
The Indy five hundred, Joseph Newgarden to be better for
his Joseph, but Joseph Newgarden wins it. That's still a
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great sporting event, even if you just watched last like
thirty laps. Just it's so huge and the time of
year it's on the Worldly weekend. It's a great American
event to watch. The speed is nuts.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, But I don't know if it's a great event
to see in person, because it sounds like it's a
great event. It like it's more of the atmosphere that
you go for. But as far as trying to watch
a race, it's not a great you know, all of
a sudden, it's like through Carls Zumanweyn, You're like, I
don't wait, what's going on here? When you're watching on TV,
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then they're able to put it in perspective of exactly
what's going on. But when you're there and you're like
in a turn three or something, and you're like, uh,
what happened?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yes, I went with a friend who was working in
the industry in the late nineties, and we were kind
of too close to the racetrack, Like we had good seats.
It's almost better to be row forty fifty sixty so
you could see off into the disk and for you're
right like talking to your buddy so Organ, and then
there's no nothing for another ninety second.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, how's the wife and kids?
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Oh, it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What Yeah, couple. Okay, if I gave you a year.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And all you were doing is going to race one
of those cars and you had to race it, let's
say two hundred and thirty miles an hour, Okay, you
only have to do one lap, and I'm going to
have whoever you want to train you is going to
train you.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
All you're gonna do for one year is you're going to.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Try to drive an Indie car one lap at at
least two hundred and twenty five miles an hour, or
I'll give.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You a year.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
To try to hit Randy Johnson's fastball, let's say over
one hundred miles an hour. But you have to do it,
not batting practice that you have to do it where
he's on the mound. Better chance of getting a base
hit or driving a car two hundred and twenty five
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miles per hour.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Seatan, I think probably, I think driving the car, Okay, Todd,
what about you.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I'm going to get in the batter's box and hope
not to not get by the pitch, and keep stepping
in a little sooner and swinging a little faster, and
hope to make contacts.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So you think that would be easier than driving a car.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
For me, because I think once I get up to
seventy five to eighty on a regular road, I stop
feeling like I'm going way too fast and I'm not
trusting myself to go much better.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think once you get accustomed to the speed, it's
just like batters get accustomed to a hundred when we go,
oh my god, how do you hit a hundred? If
you're seeing a hundred, then all of a sudden you know,
you at least are aware of what it is. When
we were taking BP out in Arizona during the Super
Bowl and what were they throwing? Maybe ninety maybe not
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even that, but they were throwing some wicked breaking balls.
I'm just gonna say, you got to hit a fast
ball it's one hundred miles an hour, don't know where
it's going, but they're going to throw one hundred miles
an hour, or you can drive two hundred and twenty
five miles per hour and you get a year to
prepare for that.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yes, Paul, I think you're right on both.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Is that.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
I think a big part it would be fear, even
though auto racing's more dangerous, standing in with one hundred
to me, just standing there and not flinching backwards would
take me a month or two. Sona never played baseball,
and I think the fear can't be overlooked in auto racing.
Like the guys who qualified for the Indy five hundred,
they qualified in the two hundred and thirty two hundred
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and thirty five mile an hour range. I think guys
like us, maybe for a train backspricks could get to
like one to ninety and then fear with fear of
death would take over.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, I'm serious, But what if I don't have
a speedometer there that I don't even know how fast
I'm going.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I think there'd be a a miles per hour or
whatever speed where you're like, I don't feel comfortable to
going any faster because I think I'm gonna die. Yeah,
I think that would enter into your focus.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, but I think you're saying I think I could
drive a car one lap if I had a year
to prepare, because I would at least be aware of
the speed.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
You would grow month by month with an expert training.
You're in a great car in great conditions. Yeah, I
think you'd rapidly improve.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Because they have those simulators that you can get in
and they simulate what it's like to get behind the wheel.
Now would I want to do it?
Speaker 10 (09:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But if you said I had to pick between the two,
I think I could drive, But I think I would
rather stand in there with one hundred mile an hour fastball.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Now, you wouldn't count an accidental putting your bat out there,
making contact and dribbling to the mountain.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, No, I got to get a count. No solid base knock. Okay, yeah,
solid base knock coming up has to be there's an
infield there. I have to you know, I have to
get to solid base knock. I think I think I
might have a little better chance at that. I went
to see the movie The Fall Guy with Ryan Gosling,
and I didn't go with him. Oh no, he's in it,
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Emily Blunt. Emily Blunt is in there, the owner of
the soccer team. And Ted Lasso is in it as well,
is it, Hannah Waddington?
Speaker 10 (10:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Does that sound right? I read all the reviews.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And it feels like they were watching a different movie
than I was, because I.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I like Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
He plays the role really really well, and Emily Blunt
great actress. I just I don't know, I never I
never kind of was syncing up with it where I go,
what is going on here? A few of those times,
and then I go home and I go I got
to see these reviews, and the reviews are really good.
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It's you know, he's a stuntman, a lot of action
in there, a lot of explosions, and you know, it's
it's wild. But then there's you know, the love interest
between Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt, and then there's another plot,
and then there's the guy who he's the stunt double
four And I'm like, I have no idea. But if
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you want to go and not really have to piece
a lot of things together, then it's a movie for you.
Speaker 11 (11:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
If you want to see Ryan Gosling, post Ken and Barbie,
then you got it. But I kept kept trying to fire.
And the guy who directed it is a former stuntman,
and so it's really an homage to stunt men and
that maybe you should have a category like an oscar
handed out to the best stunt work.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Is it fun? Yeah, but it's not a good movie.
It's just a fun movie.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It's a fun movie. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I think I was I was hoping, okay, I was sad, okay,
let me let me put let me put that out there.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I was sad.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I had gotten the word that Bill Walton passed away,
and I was sitting at home and I just was like,
snap out of it, dude, and I wanted to put
my phone down and I go, maybe I'll go see
a movie. Well, I didn't want to go see Garfield,
and I thought, what you know what fall guy?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Two hours? It'll be great.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So I went there feeling sorry for myself, and then
I felt even more sorry for myself that I went
to see the movie. And then I got out of
the movie theater, I got twenty five text messages about
Bill Walton and then uh so I had a two
hour window there where all right went to see a
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movie and it was kind of I don't know, numbing.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yes time.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
What were the critics praising exactly with that this you know,
spoiler alert that made you say, like what that?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's what they like that they love the love intro
wrist and the excitement and they're the you know, the
stuntmen and the action and I don't know, maybe maybe
I just I'm spoiled by streaming stuff and watching series
documentaries hacks.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yes, Mark, How was the experience going to the movie theaters?
Speaker 12 (13:21):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean I still love that experience. Spilled my soda
as soon as I walked in.
Speaker 10 (13:28):
Oh, should have got icy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well I didn't know that they had the arm that
comes over your chair and then but you have to
move the arm out so you sit in the chair.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I sat on the arm.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Oh, but it's like a tray.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yes, yes, so you know you got these lounge chairs
and uh recliner, and I'm like, damn, that seats hard.
And I sat and I sat on so that I
spilled my soda and and I'm the last one in place,
was sold out. I had the last seat, so I
made my presence. Felt they're like the sports center guy,
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so the fall guy.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Maybe the mood you're in nothing was going to put
you in a decent mood when the movie suffers, because.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You know, I was looking for maybe like a rom
com or something like that, maybe a Matthew McConaughey Kate
Hudson type.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Movie, and it feels like you went to one. It
wasn't a rom com, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So I heard the words love interest, and that immediately
goes to a rom com for me.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, I know, I know, and I hate.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I hate to do that because you know, these are
great actors and all that.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
And you have to play the game who was hotter
Ryan or Ellie Blunt?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Yeah, that is no game.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, that's fun to be fair, that's not fair to her.
Speaker 10 (14:45):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Is it okay for a grown adult to go back
to the concession stand and explain that you spilled your
soda back, especially if like most of it or all
the time, you're not with a little kid to blame
it on.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Would you I think I would those concessions. They didn't
spill it, I know.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
But if you said you act I spilled it. You
know there's a teenager back that they understand, and it's
like dropping an eleven dollar hot dog. You would hope
that they'd be all right, Oh wait.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Wait, they did their job. You didn't do your job.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
Had an accident.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I don't crash my car and take it back to
the dealer. Should say, hey, man, this thing's a mess.
Take it back.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like if I burned something that I'm cooking, I can't
take it back to the grocery store.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
It's the right piof thing to do, is okay? You
know how much it possible?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
No, it's going to possibly cross them.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
The little that little machine that's got filled with whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, but how do you trye eleven dollars for the drink?
How do you know that everybody is coming back spilled
their drink.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
You gotta take someone, you gotta you know, you know
the ustret. You gotta take their word for it that
they didn't drink the whole thing and they're looking for
a free rebuilt. The movie just started.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Thank you to uh Steve in LA before we take
a break. Hi Steve, what's on your mind today? Hi?
Speaker 11 (15:48):
I had the good fortune of being a classmate. I
was one year behind Bill at U C l A
and Uh just a quick anecdote that when we were
in the student section during the game Ames, as you know,
there was no clock at the time, so teams would
try to stall. But it was on those rare occasions
when the Bruins were hot and they were scoring, the
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Westwood McDonald's had a promotion going. If the Bruins scored
ninety points and you showed up with your ticket stub,
you got a free soda. If they scored ninety five,
you got a soda and fries. If they got a hundred,
you got a Burger, soda and fries. So the students'
section would start chanting Big Mac, Big Mac as soon
as they got anywhere near one hundred points, as Billy
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would be striding off the court to go soak his knees.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, but they they didn't have a twenty four second
They didn't have a shot clock back then. I remember
they lost to USC. Maybe Paul Westfall forty four, forty
two Mode Layton may have played at USC then and
they lost to Oregon in Oregon State and then they
lost to NC State in the tournament. The last appearance
of Bill Walton from this show, we're going to bring
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The date was January twenty fourth of twenty twenty three.
The last time we had Bill Walton on now Seton
did his impression of Bill for Bill, and then Bill
went on to ask seton how he got his first
name and then explain the origin of how he got
his first name.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He was a portion of the interview.
Speaker 12 (18:05):
I'm named after my dad, and my dad was the
greatest dad ever. He had zero interest in sports. I
never talked sports with him, I never watched sports with him,
I never played sports with him.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
But I let him down.
Speaker 12 (18:18):
I let him down because I was twenty three when
we had our first child, Adam, who was here yesterday,
lived up the street and my dad. I'm the third,
and my dad wanted a fourth, and I was not
old enough. I was not mature enough to want to
burden one of our children with my name. And then
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the other time was when the end of the line
from my dad and I was running the show there
for everybody and everything, because we just lived ten minutes
away from my parents' home, and my dad was in
and out of the hospital a lot. At the very end,
he was eighty three years old, and he kept telling
me Bill, I don't want to die in the hospital.
I don't want to die in the hospital. And so
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we were always calling nine to one one. They were
all our friends. It all grew up a very close
community where I come from. And so the paramedics were
always there, in and out, taking my dad back and
forth to the hospital.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
And it's one time.
Speaker 12 (19:12):
I mean, I was there and we called nine one one,
and my dad's that Bill, I don't want to go
to the hospital. I don't want to die in the hospital.
I thought we could still save him. They put him
in the ambulance. I had the ambulance door, and he's
looking at me and he's got tears in his eyes
and he said, I don't want to go to the hospital, Bill.
But I closed the door, ambulus went off. I followed
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it to the hospital and he never got out. And
it was something that I wish I had known better.
When my mom passed a year ago, I knew better.
You know. I was just in my early fifties from
my dad passed, so it was not nineteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
How you doing, Dan, Let's cheer it up a little
bit here, this thing up.
Speaker 10 (19:54):
Let's throw it down one time.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
If you didn't go to UCLA, where were you going?
There was no second choice, no second choice.
Speaker 12 (20:04):
And I'm reading a brilliant book right now. I know
you're a reader, and you love books and knowledge and everything.
One of my teammates. The winningest player in the history
of college basketball, Larry Farmer, got a brand new book
out Santa Monica Press.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
It's called The Role of a Lifetime.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
And Larry's experience was totally different than mine, and although
in many ways it was totally similar because we played
for the same coach. He was the starter for two
years on our first two championships there, undefeated. A never
lost her game with Larry in the starting lineup there,
and he played with Sidney Wicks in his sophomore year,
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an era of three years of college basketball. And it's
just a beautiful read, and it's a fun, upbeat, happy
book and all the different things that went down, and
the way that Larry's able to turn the phrase to
make it so real, so inviting, so enveloping, which was
what UCLA was all about.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
So many spectacular people.
Speaker 12 (21:01):
And yes, we had John Wooden as great as coach
as there's ever been, but we also had J. D.
Morgan as great an athletic director as there's ever been.
We had Chancellor Young, who was the chancellor at UCLA
for twenty nine years. I mean, that's a job that
just choose people up and spit them out. In public education.
And then we had Ducky Drake. Lucky Drake got there
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in nineteen twenty three and he died in nineteen eighty eight.
And I can't even do the math anywhere that I
think that sixty five years. But he was the trainer,
he was the track coach. He was Rayperl Johnson and C. K.
Yangs coaching. But he was the conduit that understood young
people's problems and was able to be the sounding board
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and be the buffer between Chancellor Young J. D. Morgan,
John Wooden and all the players. It was a phenomenal
experience for me. I wish it had lasted forever.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What would you have made with name, image and likeness
at Uslee.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
I was doing a show one time with Kareem and
when he got to the Q and A and they asked, Kareem,
you know we always defer to Korean. You know, the
greatest player I ever played against the standard of excellence.
And so we'll get to Kareem and his records and
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Lebron in a moment, we're sitting there and it goes
to the Q and A and they said, Kareem, if
you had played in the in the era of nil.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
What would you have made?
Speaker 12 (22:26):
And he looked at me, and he looked back at
the crowd and he said Europe. And then he looked
over at me and he said, and Bill would have
got South America. And so as I was watching the
Lebron's game the other night, I mean, he just did
last game. I don't know exactly when they're playing again,
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but I saw him play against the Blazers. I was
prepping for throw it down Spurs at Blazers and I'm
watching this guy, and you know, it was I think
it was years ago, well maybe even more when he
first started at Saint Mary's, Saint Vincent's and we went
over there into Cleveland State and did that first game
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when he was in high school. We did the second
game when he was playing at poly Pavilion, because it
was it was so spectacular when he was eighteen years old.
And now here he is. I believe he's thirty eight now,
and what he was doing is in that game at
thirty eight years old, he is not backing into this record.
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I mean, this is a staggering accomplishment of everything.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
But did you think Kareem's record would ever be broach?
Speaker 12 (23:39):
You always think that and I was there when Will
was setting all his records right, and then Kareem starts
catching him right, and Will was fantastic and it was
a huge influence in my life. I've been the luckiest
guy in the world. And so when Kareem was coming
up and real would get super mad. In my early
days of broadcasting the Clippers, when I would talk about
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Wilt's records, this was you know, in the nineties and
early nineties and thirty three years ago now, and I
would always refer to it, you know as when Will
would miss five thousand free thrills in his career and
Will would call me Ilway say, hey, Billy, don't talk
about that. If I thought that was important, I would
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have made him. And then when Kareem was coming to
pass him and break his records, will you know, he
would say to all of us. And these were you know,
personal conversation Jacks. Will was just an incredible human being.
He was a combination personality wise of Magic Johnson and
Santa Claus. And so when you would ask when you
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you know, when you would be talking and Kree was
coming up, and the level of skill, talent, dedication, determination,
durability that it takes to do something like that is
just off the charts in desc and so as Kareem is,
you know, inching up and going to get there. And
I was watching the game when Kream swung the skyhook
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in Mark Eaton's face and hit it in Las Vegas.
And and so Wilt would say, Billy, if if I
thought anybody was ever going to break my records, I
just want to double them up, because you know, in
those days, a lengthy career was ten twelve, a dozen years,
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thirteen years, and you know today's player.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
This is to take.
Speaker 12 (25:33):
Nothing away from today's players, and these guys are spectacular
the level of physical fitness. And it's one of the
things that just blows me away about Lebron is that
here he is thirty eight and he is still the
most active guy in the game, and he is running
so fast and attacking the rim and throwing it down
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and then he shoots jumpers. And when I watched Lebron,
I I can never figure out what the best part
of his game is. I mean, here's a guy who
you know who in any particular moment, any particular game,
any particular event, he can be the best shooter, the
best passer, the best dribbler, the best rebounder, the best defender,
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and the best shot blocker, the best screener, the best deco. Wait,
he can do everything out there, and he's still doing
it as well, if not better than anybody else in
the game at Portland on Sunday night, which the Lakers
started off with a fourteen point lead in the early moments,
and then they were behind by twenty five points at halftime,
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and so I kind of drifted away to something else,
and then I, you know, I keep looking at my
phone off following in the stores every night, and then
I see it's a game again, and then the Lakers
win it going away. Now they've got Ruey Hatcheblaura.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
You know, it's wow.
Speaker 12 (26:52):
Anything is possible in in the NBA today. If you
win four games in a row, you're skyrocketing up the
stand because everybody is so bunched in and nothing's been
determined yet.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But is there too much scoring?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Well, it's almost like baseball where there's too many home
runs and there's too many three pointers.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Now it's fine, it's what the rules are and the scientists.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
And this was Mike D'Antoni, who saves.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Basketall would the game be better if we remove the
three point line?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Now, I love the three point line, and it was
so fantastic. I remember one night we're playing, you know,
in the early days of the three pointer. We started
in seventy nine, and rest in peace. Chris Ford, who
just passed the point, made the first three pointer. And
so we're playing in the Boston Garden and you know,
I'm not really playing. I'm sitting on the bench chearing
for Larry and Kevin and Chief and DJ and Danny, and.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Larry's having a monster game, monster.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Game, and in the Boston Garden is just rocking. It's
against the Knicks, and Hug Brown is coaching, and Patrick
Ewing and Bernard King and all these guys, right, an excellent,
excellent team, but certainly not the Boston Celtics with Larry
Bird and Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale and DJ and
Danny in the second string that we had. And the
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crowd is going crazy. Larry, Larry, Larry MVP. I mean,
the scoreboard is shaking, right. And Huebeye, who was the
coach at the Knicks at the time, now Huey as
the broadcaster at eighty nine, and really, ever since he
became the broadcaster has been the model of decora.
Speaker 10 (28:22):
Right.
Speaker 12 (28:22):
But when he was the coach, I mean, he was
a firebrand over there, and he loved to yell at
his own players, and when that didn't work, he's already
yelling at us, the other team. And so Larry's making
three after three and the ball rolls out of bounce
right to Hueby Brown, who picks up the ball and
normally you just throw it back to the ref and
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Larry comes running over there because he doesn't want the
game to stop, right, and Huemie won't give Larry ball right,
and and Larry's like trying to grab it, and the
ref come to what's going on here, and the crowd is.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
Just stunned and everything.
Speaker 12 (28:57):
And finally Larry, you know us, get a hold of
the ball, but Humby still wonts it up.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
The referee comes in separates him.
Speaker 14 (29:04):
And and Huby looks at Larry and says, oh, yeah, Bernie, Yeah,
you think you're so good making all these threes and
firing this crowd up here and torching the knicks here
on a Friday night in the Boston Garden.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
You think you're so good bird making all these trees.
Let's see you bank one of those threes in and
Larry looked at like like al Pacino from Taxi Driver. Right,
I got Alan Robert DeNiro.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Darry.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Okay, Robert DeNiro for taxtor. Larry looks at Hubie like
he's the taxi driver.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
Right. He says, you're to me. But Larry just who
was already so on fire. He grabs the ball from
the ref, throws it in, gets it right back right
in front of Hugh Beet, like a foot from the
sideline when the coaches, Stan right looks at Hubet and
banks in a three.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
And then he spends the rest in the game banking in.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
Every three every time. It just blare over. You're looking
at me, you're talking to the Oh my gosh, today
is superb. These players. These players are staggeringly fit. These
players are staggeringly skilled. I mean the dribbling, the passing,
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the shooting, the rebounding, and it's just and they're all
so gifted, you know. And with with the selection of
the players and the development and what BA L what
the Africa initiative is between the NBA Academy, the BA
L and and basketball without borders, which is you know,
these are global things, but right now, twenty five percent
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of the NBA, twenty five percent of international players. Fantastic
And David Starned, you know, he's responsible for that what
we all did going around the world teaching the game
of basketball in the nineties, our basketball you know, they
had the business guys, the marketing guys, the media guys,
the organization, but the basketball team was Jack Ramsey, Hubie Brown,
Calvin Murphy and me and we got to go everywhere
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once a month for a week and it was just
absolutely fantastic. And now you've got played players like der Namitski,
and you've got players like Tony Parker and Moneyed Genobli
from all over the world and Boris Diao, and you know,
the globalization has been absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
And the money ten.
Speaker 12 (31:25):
David Stern took a game and turned into a business,
a business.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
That's now generating ten billion.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
Dollars a year. And you know, our guests last night,
Phil Knight, we had Doctor j Phil Knight and Adam Sandler,
and they were all just brilliant. But as David Stern,
the most important man in the history of all basketball
never took a shot, but he made the game into
a business. And then Phil Knight and the most important
man in the history of all sports because he did
that for all sports. And Nike by itself makes more
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money every year than the NFL, the NBA, Major League Baseball, Hockey,
and the NCAA combined. And it's just incredible what they've
been able to do, the business, the growth. You look
back at the numbers and the skyrocketing graphs, the hockey
stick graph and it's just phenomenal. And we're so grateful,
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we're so happy.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He is Bill Walton, the Hall of Famer. It's called
Throw it Down with Bill Walton. It streams exclusively on
NBA League Pass. The next matchup is Raptors Sons. That'll
be well in the desert. Hey, it's great to see you.
I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker 12 (32:34):
I love Dan Patrick. Thank you for having me, thank
you for your patience.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But Seaton, do you want to say goodbye to Bill Walton?
Is Bill Walton?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Mister Walton, We just keep on rolling, just a mile ago.
Speaker 10 (32:48):
Roll away the dew.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
Yeah, if my words did glow like the gold of sunshine.
Thank you, wells pipple in stillwater where they're there's no
pebble tossed nor rid to blow.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
Thank you having me, Thank you for your patience, Thank
thank you.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Billy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That is Bill Walton, Hall of Fame, Bill Wilton. That
was the last time we had him on the show.
It was January of twenty twenty three, and I figured,
you know, taking out a little bit, I just wanted
to put it in context of those are the conversations
that you have with Bill. It's like you're trying to
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navigate where you're going, but you don't know where you're
going and what the vehicle is that you're going to
be going in, but you know it'll be a ride.
And he was the same. We'll miss him, but very
very fortunate. He gave us an awful lot to share
back After.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
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Speaker 2 (33:54):
Last Call for phone Calls, what we learn, What's in
store tomorrow? Josh and Philly leads his song, Hey Josh,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 15 (34:03):
Good morning, mister Patrick, How are you great?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Great?
Speaker 15 (34:06):
Before I asked the question I was going to ask you.
I just wanted to give a shout out to your operator, Tyler.
I think he makes it easy to figure out or
when I'm talking to him and deciding what question I
want to ask you, he makes it easy to transition it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
All right, Well, Tyler the Operator, that's his new nickname.
I like that, all right, So what do you have there, Josh.
Speaker 16 (34:27):
Oh, Yeah, I was about Bill Walton. So I'm thirty
four years old, so I know Bill Walton's a legendary
basketball player, but I don't really know much about him,
and I'm just wondering if you had a couple accolades
of his playing career that you would or even something
personal that you'd be willing to well.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
He is the second greatest college basketball center of all time.
He won two national titles, then he won two NBA titles.
He was an MVP, he was a Finals MVP, he
was a sixth Man.
Speaker 10 (34:57):
Of the Year.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
If he was healthy and had a prolonged career, we
would be looking at Bill Walton being a top fifteen
player of all time, maybe top ten. He was that good,
understood the game, selfless, cared about winning, and he not
liked the Joker, And I hate doing this because the
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Joker is a more skilled player than Bill. But Bill,
what he did defensively, passing, you know, he could score.
He just whatever you needed for him to do. He
was He was a Joker before Joker. Now Joker brings
the ball up the floor and he's a far better shooter.
But Bill is a wonderful passer, rebounder, block shot, and
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you know he understood the game. He saw the game differently,
but he didn't get to play. You know, he just
wasn't healthy enough when he got to the pros. Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Think maybe two weeks ago we were talking about MVPs
who didn't average over twenty points a game. Bill Walton,
at age twenty five, averaged nineteen points a game and
won the MVP because he averaged thirteen rebounds, five assists,
and four blocks. I mean all purpose.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Kenny in La Hey, Kenny, Kenny, Hey, Kenny.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
So I am a little bit older than Jay billis
and then Reggie Miller. And first of all, I like
to go back to the beginning of your program this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
You mentioned Dre.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
West's birthday today. Actually, I left my dad a couple
years ago. My dad who had been ninety five today.
They always shared that birthday.
Speaker 11 (36:34):
That was kind of cool.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
But I did have the great pleasure of meeting Big
Red on a number of occasions, and it's always just
so joyful, wonderful guy. And he had a book I
met him. Actually he was a keynote speaker and he
had a book. At that time. A biography was called
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Bill Walton appropriately called Back the Dead. Yeah, searching for
the Sound.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
Why do you like it?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Thank you, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yes, Bill had a couple of books, but Back from
the Dead would that would have a double meeting for me,
grateful dead and really back from the dead because he
had contemplated suicide because of all of his surgeries. Brad
in North Carolina, Hi Brad, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (37:23):
DP.
Speaker 17 (37:25):
Unfortunately just several worst of the weekend here in North Carolina.
We're mourning the loss of Grayson Murray from the PGA tour.
Unfortunately took his own life. I'm friends with his brother's.
It's hitting hard here. He's a Raley native, but just unfortunate.
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I know he dealt with some demons. But I really
don't have a best but you know, I hope you
guys have a great week.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Thank you, Brad.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I was watching Jim nance and the CBS coverage and
watching this in real time when Jim got word that
Grayson had died. We didn't know he had taken his life,
but he had quit the sixteenth holes right by the clubhouse,
and he on that Friday said I'm done and walked in,
and you know, then we come to find out later
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he had taken his own life. He had won twice
on tour. He won out in Hawaii, I think the
Sony Open earlier this year. He even talked about overcoming
his demons. And that's why I've talked about depression. I
went through it for probably a couple You know, you
don't even know you're in it until you kind of
get out of it and you're like, wow. If somebody
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says they're okay, still check on him, because that doesn't
mean they're okay. A lot of times people who have
something wrong with them or they're going through something, they
don't want to burden you. And I don't know if
that's what Grayson did. He just said, hey, I'm good,
I've moved past this. You know, there was alcohol involved
in this or part of his addiction. And also that
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he was battling depression. But when somebody says he I'm okay,
that doesn't mean you shouldn't still follow up and check
on them. Brian in Kentucky, Hey Brian, what's on your mind?
Speaker 18 (39:13):
Hey hey five eleven two hundred, Uh yeah, everything you
just said about depression and grace and all that, totally agree.
Make sure you check on your people real quick. That's
the worst of the weekend. Best my red legs sweeping
the Dodgers and now they're four winds in a row.
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We are so back and worse of the weekend. Newest
member of the Dead Dog Club, my.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
Hub of fifteen years passed away, and I.
Speaker 18 (39:48):
Just want to give a shout out to Foxy, who's
running around in the great fields above.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Thank you, Thank you, Brian. Yeah, it's tough when you
have to put a dog down. I mean anytime you
lose a pet. But you know, I always tell the
story when somebody says that they have to put their
dog down. I tell them when I took my dog
Lou to be put down, and that's when the vet said, hey,
you should go get your other dog, Cooper and bring
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him in. So he can say goodbye to his friend.
And so I race home and get my son's dog
and bring Cooper back, and all of a sudden, Lo's
there on the floor. Cooper walks around once and then
pees on Lou and it just broke the tench in
my wife and I just started laughing. Yes, and my
wife goes to the vet. You know, we all grieve
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in our own way. Got pete on, poor little guy.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
You got this dang sports history, Pauling.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
I know if I get top that, I'll throw it
out there. Nineteen fifty six, Dale Long. I've never really
heard much about him.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
And he had like seven home run in seven consecutive games.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
The first ever Major League baseball player to hit a
home runs in eight content games. You know, he was
a pretty good player, and not I've be a Hall
of Famer. Two thousand and three, Patrick Waugh announced his
retirement from the NHL.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Oh that's it, Todd. What did I learn today?
Speaker 9 (41:10):
Brian in Portland says Bill Walton made you feel like
you were his best friend. And Bill always deflected compliments
to Kareem and other greats.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Well we learned.
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