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March 13, 2025 41 mins

Dan muses on postponing his retirement long enough to see the Super Bowl in one significant city. And Hall of Fame quarterback and NFL analyst, Steve Young joins the show to talk about stories from his playing years and analyzes the top quarterbacks in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Thursday. It's gonna be busy because
at the end of the hour, Fritzy and Marvin will
get pies to the face. I'm trying to remember the bet, Fritzy.
Was this a Broncos related bet? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
That they I don't know if they were gonna do
better than another team or a certain number of games
they needed to win, or they had to win a
playoff game, whatever it was, it was Broncos.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, Marvin, what about you pie to the face?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Because Chuck and Queen's bet me on Saint John's versus
ukon first game, and I didn't realize Saint Johns was
as good as they were, or else I would have
not taken that bet.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I don't think anybody realized just how good Saint John's
was going to be.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Now they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon and
all that.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, wait, they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Like they're hotter than fish grease. Comma, they were on
jim back.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I thought, poor Jimmy Fallon had fish grease all over him.
I didn't see that story fish grease on Jimmy Fallon
is extra hot garage sale. Everything must go clearing out
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It is really well done. Recaps everything that happened on
the show and case you missed it. Even if you

(01:14):
didn't miss it, it can still refresh your memory of
all the great items that we talked about, all the
great memories, because after all, I'm on the clock with
the number of days, number of shows that I have.
There was reaction though to me maybe extending my window
of here we go. No, Seaton was out of the country.

(01:40):
So did I miss this conversation? Are we back? No?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
We rolling?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
We keeping the band again? No? I I was, you know,
on a romantic vacation with my wife and wine country.
And she said, so the final show is December twenty four,
twenty seven. I said, yeah. She goes where WHI the
super Bowl that year? I said, I don't even know.
And she goes Atlanta and we're driving and my wife says, well,

(02:10):
you've started your broadcasting career TV career in Atlanta, CNN.
Why don't you end your career in Atlanta at the
Super Bowl? And I went I didn't have a comeback.
I was like wow, and then I just thought, you
know what, I'll present that as a way to truly
truly wrap up my career.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yes see, I'm just saying, if the show is going
to be, it's going to end. Yeah, super Bowl Week
is a hell of a time to do it. We
could put together like a Baller week send off, farewell
kind of thing that could be really really great. That
could be the kind of week that actually wins us
the Emmy. Just saying you just gave me hope that maybe,

(02:53):
just once for the last time, we might have a
shot at winning an Emmy.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Just by saying that we're going an extra two months
has a better chance of getting into the Hall of
Fame than we do winning a Sports Emmy. I don't agree,
And it might be posthumously, if you know, for me
as well, just like Pete Rose. Yes, here to accept
the Sports Emmy is Tyler.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
So when you broached or floated the concept of having
a two month extension for the Super Bowl Atlanta, did
you get any actual feedback from people that matter?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I only talked to my wife.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
Oh so, no, one industry.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes, some people at the people who sell this show.
The salespeople were like, hey, tell me about it. You're
going to extend it to the Super Bowl. I said, hey,
I just brought up a conversation I had with a
romantic vacation in Wine Country and my wife brought that up.
But yeah, we got some time. But yeah, it did.

(03:54):
It kind of hit me that, yes, my career was
at a crossroads. I had just lost out on a
job at a local station in Dayton, Ohio, and then
I got I don't know, I was really down. I
was twenty seven and I thought I won't get a
job in TV. I just lost out the weekend job
at Channel two, and my ex girlfriend said, you should

(04:18):
come down to Atlanta. CNN is hiring. I go, I
couldn't get the job in Dayton, Ohio. I'm not going
to get a job at CNN. And then it turns
out they hired me. I was only doing headline sports.
I wasn't even on camera, and I took a ten
thousand dollars pay cut, and thank god I did. Six
months later, I'm in New York and I'm covering Baltimore, Boston, Philly,

(04:42):
New York, DC, all of the different teams. The eighty
six Mets, the Giants won a Super Bowl covering the Celtics.
I mean, all of that was able to grow up
covering some of these teams as a reporter. But if
I don't go to Atlanta and I don't get that
job or take the job at Headline Sports, I'm not

(05:02):
here today because I probably would have just stayed in radio.
But you know, my wife was right, that's where my
career got started. And at that point I didn't think
that I would work in TV at all, and America
would be cheated of looking at this face. They would
only be able to hear that voice. And that's enough
for a lot of people. But when you throw in

(05:25):
the face part of it, Todd, Yeah, that's really yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And you control Burriso and not say, oh, you mean
Headline Sport, that would have been a problem.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Could you imagine the pilgrimage to Atlanta for your last show,
like legit, legit, not even legit.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't think. I don't think it's not going to
be a pilgrimage.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, Malcolm X went to Mecca. It was a pilgrimage.
They're going to make this type of pig.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't think it'll be the same, I don't. I mean,
it'll be closed, but I don't think it'll be the.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Same shades of similar ac Yes, not quite the same,
but that's you know, the degrees of it.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Maybe, yes, like Hoosiers when the town is closed and
the bus full of people, all the buses going down
the street to the game.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Just mythical. I just I just put that out there.
That was a conversation I have with my wife.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
That was all.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm not putting it out to say that's what we're
going to do. But I did bring that up to
the Danatz just to say, hey, this is something that
did stir my interest in extending and we're not going
to put this to a vote.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
No, you're not putting you So you just put it
out there now two times today, Like what are you
talking about, dude, of course we're doing that.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, but you weren't here.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, no, But now this is the second time now
that you're like flirting with the idea.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm guessing.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I don't know how it went over the first time,
but me hearing that news thinks it makes all the
sense in the world.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It does. It does, But I would have to talk
to management because we have contracts and you know, we
have relationships with sponsors, and you know, I don't know
how that works. To extend it two months to the
end of February. Yeah, two month bonanza. Yes, but I
am it's under advisement. That's all. That's a long time.

(07:11):
A lot can happen, A lot can happen. I'm not
going to bet a pie to the face the final pie. No,
the final pie. No, no, no, not going to do that.
But out of respect to you guys, the audience, to
wrap it up in the proper way, I am certainly

(07:32):
considering that that we would do it just to the
super Bowl, just to the super Bowl. That is perfect.
That is perfect. That's exactly what we should be doing.
It's perfect.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yes. Is there anybody that you would want for sure?
Like we have to get this? No guess okay, No, no,
I have one.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yes, Tim Kawakami, Yeah, that's you could do forty nine Ers,
you could do Warriors Mercury News.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
He could do.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
If we don't have Tim Kawakami on the last show,
than what are we really doing? Why did we do this?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Tim Cawndllshan, you know, like all the people, well, Jordan Tiger.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Yes, we already have an issue with this possible plane
of you extending through the Super Bowl in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
So let's say we did.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
You extended for two more months to your final contract,
and you did the show. We did the show in
Atlanta for super Bowl. We have to be on on
Monday to recap the super Bowl. You cannot not be
on a Monday. So here's the plan. Last week super
Bowl extravaganza and then the final show from the attic
of your house.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, no, the cat and the dog and the bacon. No,
and be here, be here in the man can really
put a bow on it. It's the there's no equipment
in the attic.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
We'll figure that out.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, we've already figured it out. This would be we'd
have to do that show here in the man Cave
and then we turn out the lights of the man
Cave and then we all walk out. You guys cry.
I'm laughing. I'm celebrating, yes, Marta.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
But I just saw the twenty twenty eight Final Fours
in Mason, Ohio, So we have to do now the
show from.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It could be in my hometown. And I still wouldn't
do a show I'm good. No, not because it's in
my hometown. I don't want to go back there. It's
just like, at some point I got to say that's it.
I'm done. Maybe we do other things. Maybe maybe we
do a podcast once a week or something. I don't know.

(09:32):
We're disgusting all these things. Maybe I don't do anything
with you guys. Maybe I just go on my own.
It's fair. I've been dragging your asses up and down
the floor for decades now. The one who gets so
emotional is Todd, and I don't know why you get them.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I don't like talk death talk. I don't like to
talk about things ending.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
No, no, no, this is career death. This isn't me dying.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I know everything is finite, but I just I don't know.
I just I don't like things that come to an end.
It's said, and talking about it, especially years in advance,
is upsetting.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, But it's it's sad because then you have to
go out and try to find another job. That's true,
That's that's the sad thing.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm not of an age where I can just say
I'm retiring.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Would anybody retire when I retire, Paul, possibly, Seaton.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I'm not even remotely close to financially ready to retire.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
That that is a okay. But let's say somebody decides
that they would like to host this show. Are you
retired from doing a show like this? If somebody is
over here sitting in the chair, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I just got here, so I'm staying.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
Okay, Paul, likely not doing this after you leave?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
All right, Ton, I would have to think about that.
That that wouldn't wouldn't be a definite.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, you think about it right now, that's.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
For three years from now. I wouldn't say completely no,
But I have other interest in things. I may want
to may want to live in other places and do
either things. So you have to see what's going on
in a couple of ye.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
All right, Seaton, could you be another part of an
ensemble with the radio show?

Speaker 5 (11:16):
The percentage of that is slight, okay, But I mean
I need a job. I need a paycheck. So maybe
I'm not really interested though in being And I've like
said this before and I don't know why. I remember
exactly why I said his name, because I love the
guy like I truly do but like I don't want
to be If I'm going to do a show with
somebody else again, I want to do it with them.
I don't want to be like a tucker At, you

(11:38):
know what I mean, and be like seeing what's the
poll question? Like I don't want to do I really
don't want to do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So Ross Tucker.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
If Ross I would very I'd be very happy to
work with Ross Tucker, but it wouldn't be in this dynamic. Yeah, okay,
a tucker At, I'm not. I don't want to be
an eyes in At. I don't want to be at
anymore than after. Once you're done, then that's the end
of my career.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay. How about a Nick right At? No, not Colin
cow Herder. Yeah, where's your cattleman? A Romett? Jim Rome,
Jim Romett. It'd be wild if you were done before.
He was fascinating. If I retired, say he's already retired, okay,

(12:27):
all right, poke, one of the kings, been doing it
a long time.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
He's done very He could retire any time he wants
and race horses, yea, or do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
He's done very well from something he has. Maybe you
could work for Dan Lebtard or and and Stu Gods.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, the great privilege of working for one of my idols,
a man who has been so much to me, truly
one of the titans in the industry.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
All right, tell me it was was it now to
work for me? It was awkward? It was awkward when
Dan Leviatard interviewed me in New Orleans. It was a
little awkward for the Dan nets. Uh, it got way
too serious, way too serious.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I missed that.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, man, you decided not to join us. Yeah, yeah, boycott, Yeah,
you boycotted. Boycotted the big night where at Tippetina's and
Dan was interviewing me, and I kept telling him, have fun,
let's have fun. And he's like, oh, I think people
should realize the backstory of what you've been through healthwise.

(13:38):
I go, No one cares. They're drinking, nobody cares. And
then he asked me the question about what was like
what was love like in the house in my Yeah,
what was it like love? What was love like in
your house? Oh? God? And I thought, you know, did

(14:01):
he know about me sneaking you know, Amy Lakes into
the house there. I think he was gone for tears.
No doubt. I think that maybe he was, you know,
trying to win an award or something. It was it
was doctor Phil s but I knew where it was.
It was coming from a really good place. I just
I didn't want to talk about anything serious. It's fun

(14:23):
and I just remember see it. And when he saw
me after that, he goes, oh, there's Dan Patrick, all
the incredible, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
He does that when he comes on the show too.
You know, I love Dan Levettard. He is he's the best.
He's a great guy. It is funny though.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
He's a he's a deep thinker. He's very emotional. He
is emotional. He's gone through a lot, he lost his brother.
I think he leaned on me. Uh literally has great
respect for you. Yes, he does, very clearly, and I'm
glad somebody does. Thank you to thank you, ton d.
This is where I go. No, maybe I don't stay.

(15:02):
It's under this.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I don't even do that.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Todd if Okay, if you need a letter recommendation, it's
not am I gonna have to ask you for a
recommendation for the one guy? Okay, Marvin gets a letter
of recommendation twenty years.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Hold on DP I have to do a resume. I
haven't done a resume since two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
If you if you do a resume, you can put
me down as a reference my resume.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, that's because he tells me what a Wondervil show
you had?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yes, okay, because we had a good show. We have
something of the game.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
How do you think how do you think Musk got
to where he is in the warehouse?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Very fair?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Can you guys be nice to me.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Against the break?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, Terrible would say, thank you, be nice. Marvin's the
nicest person I've ever met.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
That was a great point.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Dan, just thank you, Tod.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
That makes saut Harvey and I said, it makes wonderful points.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
He does the print. How about we take a break
here Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, he might maybe
he'll say some nice things about me in the world. Yeah,
in a world. We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2 (17:25):
About forty minutes from now, Fritzy takes a Pie to
the face, Marvin takes a pie to the face as
well more phone calls coming out piece the Hall of Famer,
three times Super Bowl champ of the Niners. Steve Young
back on the program, Steve, we were wondering, did you
ever have a full time job aside from being a
football player when you got out of high school and

(17:47):
you went to BYU, did you ever have a job
like you know some of ninety nine percent of the
rest of Americans where maybe you wash dishes or something.
So Todd, let me start with you, Steve Young. Did
he have job and what job was it?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I think he did have a job, and it was
some kind of paralegal or something with a loan or
something along.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, I know, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
got to go around the room. Everybody gets a guest here.
But you know, keep in mind, he grew up in Greenwich, Connecticut,
se Street, the other side of the tracks in Greenwich. Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
See, oh boy, yeah, that really changes things, doesn't it.
I think he has had a job.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think it was more like working at someone's store store. Okay.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Marvin the Great One worked at a car dealership, car dealership.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Paul Real specific when he's young, a Caddie in Greenwich,
and when he was in college, probably like an internship
with a hedge fund or something.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm going to say probably had a paper route. And
I'm going to say that he worked. I'm gonna say
he worked for his father, Steve.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
All right, So, uh, the family had the famous paper out.
I started it for years. That's when we were little.
That doesn't really count, but I'm giving you the credit
for it because I got to tell you the story
that my brother. The worst day of the paper route
was when you had to go collect the money and
knock on the door and ask for the dollar thirty
for the Granwich Times. You know, it was a pain.
And one day my brother told my mom I'm not

(19:18):
doing it. I'm not. She got so sick of it.
And this is great like story when my mom punches
my brother as hard as chakob. It puts it back
against the wall and we laugh about.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
It today that my mom, who is the greatest peace
maker of all time, who would never like her to please,
somehow got so enraged because my brother would not go
collect for the Greenwich Duns.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
She punched him. So anyway, I was in high school
and in college I worked all summers with landscape company
bucket Lands, her own man in Grantwich, Connecticut, and I
ran a whole truck of guys and and a funny
thing about Greenwich is you've pulled up to these big places,
biggest states, you know, to go cut their lawn, and
all the moms like, come.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
Inside, the landscapers are here. We don't want to mix company.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
And I was like, uh, you know, I was. It was.
It was rough and tumble back then. Yeah, that's that
was my job. That hedge fun thing is great. Yeah
that works sure.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Okay, if you're Aaron Rodgers, I'm gonna make you Aaron Rodgers,
and I'm gonna give you the opportunity for Pittsburgh and
New York with maybe the possibility of the Vikings. What
would you do.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
I'd sprint to the Vikings if possible. I'm you know
why Sam would leave a place where he knows you're
gonna thrive me because they had to. They told me what,
you didn't have a spot. But you've got to find Dan.
In today's game, you've got to find a place where
someone has left. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay or Andy Reid
and understands the new kind of run to the future

(20:50):
that is necessary to be great for quarterbacks. And then
you got to run to those teams. And that's what
Sam found in San Francisco briefly as a backup and
then as a starter in Minnesota. So I'd run McConnell's
fast as any of them, because that's what you if
you're gonna have, if you're gonna thrive in today's game,
especially with what all that Aaron knows he was, he
was born and raised in a more sophisticated era of

(21:11):
the NFL. He can take advantage of him. That's why
Tom Brady, I think we've talked about this before, towards
the end of his career, ran into him in a
Moneay night game and I go, what's the difference between
the old before the rule changes? And now he goes, well,
now the flats are always open, the middle of field
is unpatrolled, and no one can hit me. And so
Aaron understands that, Like, that's why people can play in
their forties, because we know we learned at a more

(21:32):
sophisticated time. So get to a place that understands the
future and go dominate. I don't I Look, if you
that's to me, that's an obvious one. If that's a.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Chance, Okay, but does Pittsburgh make sense for him if
they want him?

Speaker 8 (21:49):
No, we had to go win some games. Yeah, but
they're not built. They don't they have him not run
to the future as far as the quarterback position. And
those are the teams that are in the Super Bowl year.
They're in the championshi Game every year. Then they go
deep in the playoffs. And so I would say, yeah,
go on with your bad stuff. If you don't want
to play, you know, you don't want to retire, I'm not.
I'm not done. Look at playing playing Pittsburgh's amazing. I mean,

(22:13):
it's you know, they're gonna win a lot of games.
They always do, and he can help me win more.
But I just I think the way I see the
game today, the way the NFL is built, you know,
you got to you know New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, No, okay, But are the Eagles in that same
blueprint that you're talking about, because.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Yeah, I look, I know you're trying to trick me
here and try to catch me on my my little theory. Yes,
because they have a quarterback that's still you know, is
gonna threaten the line of scrimmage every play. That they've
got a unique way to run the football, just like
the forty nine ers did, and I give them credit
for that, But the idea that you're now gonna go
win super Bowls by playing great defense in a running

(22:54):
game is just not the way that it's gonna get done.
You have a very dynamic quarterback position, which they do have,
and I think that's where they are a team of
the future in that way. They have a unique way
to do with Saquon, which I give them as an anomaly.
But you know, the idea that today's game, you can
throw together a number one defense and a great running
game and go wing the Super Bowl doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
But if I gave you Saquon Barkley or Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
These stupid bar fights like you know, yeah, I in
today's game, Justin Jefferson with a great, renovative offensive mind
and and a quarterback that understands the position that can
really thrive, those are the guys that go. So I'd
go that way.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Did you call it a stupid bar fight? That? Well,
let's this is what I do for a living.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
I know. But sometimes you just gotta you gotta admire
and and just stand back and just say, look, people
are great, and I don't want to have to pick
you know, you know how hard it is to be great,
and then you want to pick between great like I
don't know, it's it's a bar fight.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's just a fun philosophical question. As a quarterback, who
do you want the guy right behind me?

Speaker 8 (24:07):
Let's let's do more of it. Let what can we
talk about Mohammed Ali versus what do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
You call it better quarterback? You were Montana.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I didn't even have to.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I was just sitting here going I know, I know, listen,
you made me do that.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
I was at it Tomam and Ali. I was trying
to get you off.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Traft. Do you get a Christmas card from Joe Montana's family?

Speaker 8 (24:33):
Uh No, but I don't. I mean, look, don't try to.
We never fought. We didn't. We never had a fight,
we never had a disagreement, we never.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I just asked about a Christmas card.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, no, just trying to say, I'm trying to get
ahead of you now because I'm trying to get you off.
But don't try to get ahead of you.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the show.
You are on record, I think beginning of February where
you talked about the Niners need to make or not make.
Maybe that sounds strong Rock Party take advantage of his legs.
He's not Jayden Daniels, but I think your quote was
he could be eighty percent of Jayden daniel Right, you

(25:12):
truly believe that.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
I do. I think he's nifty. Right. You saw him
in the pocket. He move around. He can't carry the
football out of the huddle. Look, I don't want to
go back over it again, but because the field has
gotten bigger, essentially because of the rule changes, you can't
launch your body at defenders can't patrol the field as
well as they can. It's the game is. Quarterback position

(25:35):
has to threaten the line of scrimmage every play. They
don't need to go do it, but the threat needs
to be there. It's too powerful and the players that
the quarterbacks that are doing that every play are the
ones that are thriving. And so for Brock, he can
threaten the line of scrimmage essentially as fast or as
strong or all the stuff that other guys do. But
he can't do it. And I think you have to

(25:55):
lead into it, because if you don't threaten the line
of scrimmage, all you're going to do is be a processing,
phenomenal processing quarterback. And every play is out of the huddle,
and we're gonna just complete lots of passes. Then you're
gonna have to go the retail way, right, you have
to go the long way. In today's game. There's shortcuts everywhere,
and you got to take advantage of them. And and
and so I think he can do more of that.

(26:17):
And I think that and as they try to iterate. Look,
when the world changes happen, there's three guys that ran
in the future, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanan, Sean McVay, and
every coach that come out that's been thriving in the
NFL's come from those guys, and they've all kind of
they had a tactical advantage for six, seven to eight years.
That tactical advantage has gone. Now there's too many guys

(26:37):
out they're teaching the same thing. So there's got to
be a new iteration of it, a new you know, uh,
a real you know kind of reinvent yourself. And so
for Kyle and Brock to me, it's leaning into threatening
the line of scrimmage with him carrying the football. I
know that sounds scary to people, and that's how he
gets hurt and all that kind of stuff. But in

(26:59):
today's game, you have to or if you're going to
be championship football.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
If you look at the amount of money that the
quarterbacks make and they defer, you know, they restructure their deals.
At what point do you think a quarterback should have
a say in what is done with the money that
they're freeing up like Mahomes Josh Allen yep? Should they
be able to have input in free agency?

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Look, given enough time, in a million years, all sports
leagues will be owned by the players, right because they're
the ones that are on the field. They'll they'll be
the equity owners. It's inevitable over a million years. It's
just that football is going to be a really long time.
But I think that in that sense, players, especially the
ones that you've invested to be the you know, the

(27:45):
pillars of your of your of your team, should be included,
should be included, those personnel conversations should be included in
the draft. The biggest mistake, and I told Aaron rod
I told Tom I took pay. I told anyone I
could that the biggest mistake I made was not Look,
I don't want to say that. I did not wanted
to do unnatural things and walk in and tell them

(28:06):
you better draft that guy, or you better take care
of me, or you better No, but I wish that
I would have gone into them, into the room and
and and how to say, and had the conversation and
talk through it and try to make sure that we were,
you know, as a as a quarterback, trying to advocate
for what felt like we needed to try to take

(28:27):
care of. And I encourage players to do it with
the right spirit, with the right you know, the way
to do it. It would tactically that's appropriate and that kind
of thing. But but absolutely, Dan, if you're going to
do a quarterback a team friendly deal over many many years,
you better you got to tell me you're going to
be part of those conversations. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well. You can only imagine what Aaron Rodgers felt when
he's watching the draft and they decided to take Jordan
Love and they gave him a five minute.

Speaker 8 (28:56):
There's there's tough moments. I look, I'm not I'm not
even try to avoid that or like, oh, don't you
know I'm gonna go and advocate. You better not do.
I'm not talking about threatening. What I'm trying to do
is is build a partnership in personnel. Because what I
what my experience was, and I'm sure it's still the same.
We watched every player, every draft class come in the

(29:16):
first ota, and we as players were all look at
the guys that they drafted. I'm like, you know, he's
pretty good or oh no, he sucks, you know right away,
And like, as players, if we have that sense in
fifteen minutes, I'm overstating it, but in a very short
amount of time, why would we not be invited into
at least give an opinion about what we see in

(29:39):
a certain player a certain thing. I can think of
Geno Carmazi or I mean, like, we had lots of
draft guys at quarterback, Like what did you maybe let
me work the guy out? Why would't you have the
quarterback like that's to me, that's a big mistake that
the league continues to make and not you know, kind
of getting the opinion of the players that are on
the field.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I don't know how much you solve Shudor Sanders the past
two seasons. But it feels like, you know, we get
to this point of leading up to the draft and
then you start to get opinions like we build you
up and then we tear you down. And it certainly
happens at that position. And I don't know how much
of a role or factor in Deon Sanders with Shadoor Sanders,

(30:22):
or maybe teams are, you know, saying negative things so
he'll slide a little bit, which I always find amazing
that Wow, we're not going to take him now. They said,
you know some bad things about him. What do you
think of Shudoor Sanders as an NFL quarterback?

Speaker 8 (30:37):
I feel like we better talk about Dion for a
second because it's so much a part of the conversation.
And I think I've I shared this with you, but
if I haven't, I'll do it really quick. When he
joined the forty nine Ers, he pulled me aside and said, Steve,
I am the best teammate you'll ever have. I show
up every day, I'm ready to practice, I'm ready to play.

(30:57):
I'll always be there and I have your back. That's set. Now.
The rest of it is a parade that I want
you to just get some popcorn and enjoy because it's
gonna be a good time, you know. And that's exactly
what he did. So I take that and it's exactly
who he was and who I think he is today.
It's it's there's a parade, and get your popcorn and
enjoy the pread. I think Shador is part of that,

(31:20):
part of that same philosophy, right, It's like there's a
prey to enjoy and the popcorn everything. But is he
ready to play football? Is he going to do the
hard work? Is he going to be in the classroom
studying and memorizing and getting ready to I think those
are all things that his dad would say, Hey, buddy,
you better you better be ready to play ball. And
so in that way, I'm not going to listen to

(31:40):
the noise. I think that it's gonna be a The
question is about the pure row talent. It's not going
to be about his work ethic, his ability to you know,
put the time into all that kind of stuff. I
have no I have no worries about that.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
But you know, we used to say you had to
be six four. You know, we're looking for that guy
who's six four or sometype.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
The prototyl Dan was in the pocket delivering the football.
That was because the game was different. The game is
now like if you how many teams are still in
the past, Like it is now a time where the
quarterback has to leave the huddle every day down with
a threat to with to attack the line of scrimmage

(32:19):
and make the defense worry they're getting up free first
downs and free touchdowns. And every great quarterback today the
prototype is a guy that can run around, throw it
all over the field, but yet can still do the
traditional job of sitting in the pocket delivering the football.
That's the That's Matt Patrick, Mahomes, that's the guy. And
Shador he definitely fits the prototype. It might not be

(32:43):
size and weight exactly, but absolutely a prototype kind of player.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
To give me the guy, the guy who was successful
as a quarterback where you go it didn't make sense,
but he made it work. Like Drew Brees always amazed
me because I go, yeah, how how does he do this?
And you know he was always had his head up.
I mean he was always looking downfield, all around always.

(33:10):
But is there somebody that you played with or against
and you go, I don't know how he does it
because it's just at his size, it's unique.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Uh well, yeah, I mean when I when I met
Russell Wilson and I was like, oh my gosh, that dude.
I mean, I didn't realize how much taller I was.
That made me feel good. But it's anyone. But I
I admire people that are shorter that can play the
game because you know, there is an element of you know,

(33:39):
kind of visibility.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
But Drew Brees doesn't make sense because he's not fast,
he's not quick.

Speaker 8 (33:45):
But but but but he lived in he lived in
an era where processing was the king. Okay, it was
the only king. And and in today's game, processing is vital,
but it's it doesn't It's not all you have to have.
You have to have the ability to run around threat
in the line of scribage. That's what I'm trying to
tell you is it's different. If you talk about a

(34:05):
you know, a player that stood in one place his
whole career back in the prototype days of a previous prototype.
I don't know that that person would thrive in today's game.
It's just that different.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Would you be a Hall of Famer in today's game?

Speaker 8 (34:20):
This is Dan, Come on, this is my game. I
mean I was an oddity back in the day. I
was the guy who's like, he's a scrambler. Yeah, you know.
Bill Watsh was the only one that I remember, and
luckily I was close to him that looked at me
in the eye and said, look, because you can run,
you're going to be better. I believe it makes you
more powerful, it makes you like the other one else

(34:42):
was like, this is an oddity. Tie his legs up,
you can't move. It's stupid. We don't need any it's
crazy scrambling, crazy guy like I was. I was absolutely
an audity. And today's game it is I am. I
am the prototype, Dad, I am. I am ready to go.
Just give me a call.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
And I'll are you better than Lamar Jackson in today's game?

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Oh no?

Speaker 8 (35:03):
Still?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
What is out there?

Speaker 8 (35:05):
We can't help? But can It's like it's like you're
drawing like a like a fly to the to the point.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Why are you you're fired up today?

Speaker 8 (35:14):
Like you?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
We want to test you a little bit here. I mean,
that's all I'm doing.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
But I would say, while we're on with Lamar, you know,
he's one of my favorites, and I think that he
is the absolute prototype and his his greatness is not
still yet found because he hasn't found them to be
great and needed lots of help innovative minds and offense
today with lots of talent around you that can run
all over the field, like they're getting closer. Baltimore finally

(35:40):
capitulated a couple of years ago and said, Okay, we're in.
We're gonna get out of the sophisticated running game. We're
gonna come. We're commit. We're gonna get you some some
some uh, you know, offensive minds that are gonna help
you thrive as a quarterback. And if and get some
talent out of the wide receiver and really kind of
down they're half what there's sixty percent of the way
there of who Lamar Jackson could be. And if you
want to compare, uh, he's if we raced my peek

(36:04):
and his peak, he's quicker. There's no doubt. Man. He
can make people miss. I can make people miss. Not
like him, but if we raced, I don't know, I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I mean like a forty or one hundred.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
I think like a forty or even a thirty, you
know what I mean? Like ra like top end speed.
You know what I mean? I don't know. We'll see
I was. I was sneaky. I was sneaky. I ran
down a lot of interceptors and then I cleaned up
my mess. I have Tom look it up. No one
ever I picked six was unheard of with me.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Never Who would be?

Speaker 8 (36:38):
I think I was cleaning it up. But I could
chase them down, and I dragged down a lot of gain.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Who would be better at delivering papers? It would be
faster you were, Lamar Jackson'd.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
Be tight man close because the collection day he had
to be on the door. Who knows you taking people
at the door. The kid can't find his mom, they
don't have the money. I mean, it could get really
fucked up.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I hope I didn't set the tone for your day
or ruin your day, because you know it. Certainly this
is therapy for me.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
Dad. Someone wants to talk football at my house, This
is like, oh.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
God, you're surrounded by women.

Speaker 10 (37:14):
I know, it's just uh, they love they love the
game because they you know, like Taylor Swift said, it
was okay, So.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
They're like.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yes, Todd Steve Young during his NFL career, Dodd, no, no.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
No, numb up and find out if there was a
pick six No, not.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Doing that time.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
I have the number of pick sixes.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I thought, we need, no, we need He brought it up.
What is it?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Eleven interceptions returned for touchdown?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (37:43):
Wow, Wow, it's impossible. Wow, that is impossible. You know what.
That's what scares me a little bit, Dan, is that
when you live in your own little private Idaho and
you think, you know what this is, how.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Great you were great until you got on this Todd
over in the corner.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
He just wants to just, you know, tear you downs.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Todd. Can you see how many Montana through pick sixes?
Here we gotta go, we have to go. Thank you, buddy.
That's Steve Young back after this.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in
store for tomorrow. I just went out to the kitchen
and I was overseeing the making of the pies. Well,
I think we have blueberry pies with whipped cream, one
for Fritzy and one for a Marvin. That'll be coming
up here towards the end of the show. Have that

(38:57):
for you? Let me see. David in Iowa, Hi Dave,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Hey, DP say, I think with regard to your last day,
and I think we're all assuming you're going to go
through the super Bowl here. Yeah, I really want you
to rethink or consider not coming back from Monday recap.

Speaker 10 (39:17):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
The only reason I say that is that's what most
shows would do. They feel the need to do that.
But let's admit it, you guys aren't most shows. And
I see a very Siginfeld esque send off on Friday
with kind of the show dissolving and the audience wants more,
but they're just not going to get it. Everyone walks
their separate ways, and Pauli's stand out there saying see ya.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
All right, Well, thank you, Dave. Chris in Kentucky, Hi Chris.

Speaker 11 (39:44):
Hey Dan five.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Dan.

Speaker 12 (39:49):
It's not that I don't want your show to extend,
but since I'll be listening to you.

Speaker 11 (39:53):
Back to the Mothership days, you stated that the last
show would be the show that you told all the
story that you normally couldn't tell. To tell all show,
I think that's gonna be hard to do.

Speaker 12 (40:05):
If you've got guests that you get, you've got to
tell these stories from right into Super Bowl. I mean,
do we want a longer show, more DP or the
last biggest epic show DP of all time?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Well, we have time to think about that. I got
to decide if I want to extend to that Super
Bowl in Atlanta twenty eight Yes, Martin, do we do like.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
A big theater show sometimes at the end of the
year and at the end of the show, Yeah, and
just tell all your stories right then and there.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's probably what we'll do. This
day in sports history A quick one.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Bobby Thompson at the Braves broke his ankle sliding to
the base during spring training. He was replaced with a
rookie named Hank Aaron.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
What did he ever do? Yeah? Yeah, that's it, all right,
Just go around the room. What we learned on the program, Todd,
would you learn today?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I think I learned that Steve Young had four and
Joe Montina had six career pick sixes. I'm getting different
things from Pro Football Reference. Another story that I was
looking at, you said, he said eleven, which is a
number that keeps wanting.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, Why do you keep saying eleven you screwed up
his baseball zero point three to two percent.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
As far as pick six is, Steve Young's got among
the lowest of picks.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Secks. What did I learn today?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Steve Young's mom prince his brother when they were younger
because they refused to collect the money from their paper.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Round at Mako. They bring cars back to life for
affordable paint. Johns, you screwed it up Tom twice. Dodger,
you get a free estimate today. I'll better get Maco.
Have a great day.
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