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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour in this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Still no word on Tyrese Halliburton, although the graphic that
ABC will show to promote the game doesn't have Tyreese
Halliburton in the picture, does have three other Pacers in
that picture. But right now seems like a game time decision.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yes, Marvin, it's the Pacers twitter feed on social media.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh yeah, okay, all right, so this comes from the
Pacers here.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Correct, And he's been on the graphic for the previous
five games in NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
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in Football with Mark Sanchez coming up in a little bit.
Also more on the Lakers being sold for ten billion
dollars and I saw this recently. CNBC's most recent official
NBA team valuations ranked the Lakers as third in the
(00:56):
league in terms of value at seven billion dollars. But
they went for ten billion dollars. And this doesn't include
the arena because the crypt is owned owned by AEG,
not the Lakers. But you're paying ten billion dollars for
a brand. Poll question for the final hour is going
to be what Seaton?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Well, we actually have that exact question up there. If
you could get right now the Lakers or ten billion dollars,
which would you want?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So you're gonna give me the Lakers or a check
for ten billion dollars? Correct, I'm gonna take the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
You would be against ninety percent of the audience who
are taking the ten billion?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, you do have to like Los Angeles and the
Lakers and basketball and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, hunt the ego that big, take the money.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Who need's the headaches? And who my trading? Who are
dicking up reagents? Who needs that?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I get a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Get ten billion dollars to do what you want with.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Did you ever see Jerry Buss when he was court sided,
all the women who were hanging on him, Ton.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Look at me on the Cowboys, look at me on
the Lakers owner.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm Boss, Yes, Jerry Boss, not Jerry Buss. Michael Ozanian,
he is the CNBC senior sports reporter joining us on
the program. Michael, thanks for joining us. If I said
you could have ten billion dollars, are you going to
have the Lakers today?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What would you take?
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (02:20):
It's great to be with you. I take the ten billion.
Two reasons. One is I outbid the one hundred and
seventy five one point seven one hundred and seventy five million,
did whatever it is for the Tampa Bay Rays by
then build a new stadium and then have five billion
left over because I'm a bigger baseball fan than I
(02:40):
am basketball fan. And second reason is I have a
daughter who's starting college next semester, so that helped me
with that, So I.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Would get that way. Okay, why sell now? If you're
the bus family.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
Well, I think that part of the reason.
Speaker 9 (02:55):
Excuse me.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
Part of the reason is she's had let's say, legal
issues with members of her family since her dad passed away.
Some of those apparently have been settled. Second reason is
I think the price is astronomical. You know, if you
look at what Mark Walt has been doing, He's been
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building a huge sports empire over time. I mean, he
owns the Dodgers, he owns a piece of two soccer teams,
one of which is Chelsea. He's involved in auto racing,
so he's a primary financer of the women's professional hockey league,
and so he had the right of first refusal since
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he and Todd Bowley came in about three four years
ago and bought a twenty six percent stake, So you know,
there were probably other people out there sniffing around, and
Genie Buss said, look, you know you have the right
of first refusal. He said, what would it take. He's
got access to treumen dis financing with his ties to Gougenheim.
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He's got another investment firm and it's called TWG Capital,
so he has the means by which to buy this team.
So you know, people thought he was nuts, including me,
when he plopped down two billion for the Dodgers. Yeah,
many years ago, and everyone said, what are you doing?
That's a crazy price. Well, looking back, it's not, and
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he's had tremendous success with the Dodgers. So I think
from his standpoint, the Lakers an iconic brand, you know,
once in a lifetime opportunity, and it's a fit into
a larger scheme, which is building this huge platform of
tremendously valuable intellectual property, which guys like you and I
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call sports.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You had or CNBC had its most recent NBA team valuations,
the Lakers third in the league at seven billion. Why
three billion dollar difference.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
Yeah, that's me, Dan. I've been valuing sports teams since
nineteen eighty nine when I started this whole thing at
Financial World, and you know, I was looking at it
at the time and saying, okay, what's the most priciest
team up until that point, This was right before the
Celtics offer, and sports bankers generally look at these things
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like compare it to revenue, multiples of revenue, how many
times revenue is the team worth. The Suns which the
Ishpia brothers bought the four billion, that was a little
over thirteen times revenue. So going along those lines, that's
how I valued the Lakers. Of course, then pops up
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the Celtics. They go for a little over six billion,
and you're saying, holy cowns, back to the drawing board
when you're talking about a marquee franchise. Right, Because the
Celtics Lakers, two big markets, the two teams with the
most championships NBA history, you know, time to get a
new calculator because you're looking at this deal and it's
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like eighteen times revenus. So the math, the numbers, the
economics are almost completely brushed aside at this point.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It's just.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Something that I think if you're Mark Walter and you're
looking at this and you're saying, look, I'm in LA
I got the Dodgers, I'm building this huge sports platform.
I may never get another chance to see a sports
asset like this that can fit into my scheme. And
you know, I think if you're looking at the people
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that are, you know, potentially winners, the collateral winners from this,
I think maybe you got to look at Golden State
and say, you know, they've been looking to sell, exploring
the sale of a minority state in their team, and
they're in a much better situation in a way because
they controlled their buildings economics. They own the building. You know,
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they get all all the ancillary revenues, concerts and all
that stuff, whereas the Lakers are simply tenants. Anshots owns
that building. You know that him and the Los Angeles Kings,
which he owns, gets the Lions share. And this goes
to the Celtics too, because with the Celtics, everybody was
scratching their head and saying, holy cow, you know it's
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the owners of the Bruins that control that arena. You
know that the Celtics are simply tenants, they're arena economics.
They're not good at all. So, you know, arena economics considered,
you know, a key driver in the pecking order aside
from market in terms of franchise value within the leagues,
and this just blew that away, none of When I
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saw the ESPN story on this Dan yesterday, I immediately
tweeted to all my sports banker friends and people that
I knew that we're either executives with sports teams or
own sports teams. And to a person, they all came
back and there were two things that said. They said,
they do nothing of this beforehand. They were completely surprised,
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and the second thing was, wow, they could not believe
the price.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What is the most valuable sports franchise in the United States.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
Got to be the Dallas Cowboys. I valued them when
we did the NFL. It's the NBC a year ago
at eleven billion. But you know, as we've seen over
the past year, there's been a few NFL teams that
have sold minority pieces. The Eagles, the Bills, the Chargers,
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and the forty nine Ers. You know, with the forty
nine Ers are selling a minority piece. I think it
was at eight point six billion valuation. You know, you
got to think the next time we value the NFL,
the Cowboys are going to be much more than eleven billion,
and some other teams that are looking to sell pieces now,
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like the Bears, the New York Giants. I mean, I
think you're going to see these prices, you know, continue
to go up. And you know, again, I started off
by saying, I started doing this in nineteen eighty nine, Dan,
I remember the first the first time I did it,
and I did all the leagues at once in the
most valuable team with the New York Yankees at two
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hundred and fifty million I think it was, and of
course the Steinbrenner Group had bought the team for I
think it's eight point eight million in nineteen seventy three.
And I remember saying to a sports banker, a guy
I think he was at one of the big eight
accounting firms at the time, like Ernst and Younger, Deloitte
one of those, and I said, you know, can misappreciation
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continue And he said, no, no way, he said, you know,
he said, because TV rights aren't going to continue to
go up. And of course, you know, the exact opposites happened,
right look at the NBA's new TV deal and it's
two point six times bigger than the deal that ended
dispass season. So you know, it's just it's extremely valuable
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content and increasingly. I know I mentioned sports empires with Walter,
but the trend is what we're seeing is these investors
that own teams continue to increase their stakes in multiple sports,
in multiple leagues. You know, you look at Kronky, he
owns you know, the Rams, the Avalanche, the Nuggets, he
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owns Arsenal. You know. Then you got the geographically centered
empires like Ted Leonses. You know, he owns the Capitals,
the Wizards, the arena down there, w NBA team. I mean,
these guys, you know, they all have two things in common.
They're really smart and they have the money to put
these rare assets together. And I think we're going to
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see this trend continue them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Great to talk to you, Michael. We appreciate the insights.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
My pleasure, Dan anytime.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's Michael Ozanian, the CNBC senior sports reporter. And I
just see them going up and up and up. But
I figured the Cowboys were twelve billion dollar franchise. But
a lot of this has to do with what do
you own? What goes with that team? The fact that
the Lakers were sold and they lease be the crypt
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They don't own it, they lease it. Gary and El Paso, Hi, Gary,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Dang, everybody's taking my my mojo there eighths two twenty
third time caller. Anyway, I had all these thoughts. I
was talking Tyler, your your call guy in and I
was I was gonna tell you exactly what everyone's saying.
The Cowboys value has to go up because he owns
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a Jones.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Mahall and the brand.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Yeah, and the facility. Have you ever seen a facility? Yeah,
I mean there's I think there's an HBO video. I mean,
he has a ten thousand dollars indoor stadium there. The
high school teams play, and I mean they do fan
tours there. I mean, the couployers have to go from
ten billion up to twenty billion.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now yeah, I mean maybe, I mean to me, it's
all monopoly money. But you know, if you want it,
then you buy it. If you want it, you may
overpay for it, which maybe that's what happened in the cituation.
You know, this instance with the Lakers, but if he
wanted the Lakers, you put him in with all of
your other teams that you own, everything else that you own.
(12:32):
You're building this global empire. Danny in South Bend. Hi, Danny,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (12:39):
What's going on? DP eleven? Hey, Hey, got a comment
for you. Earlier you were talking about the Bulls and irrelevance,
particularly irrelevance in Chicago. So I did a little big
and I got a stat for you. Okay, since twenty seventeen,
all the way to this current season, outside of the
(13:02):
COVID year, the Bulls have led the NBA in attendance
every year.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay, that's all.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
I just remember you guys were saying they were, you know,
really relevant lately because of winning and all that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But you can have local attendance, Danny, but you can
have national relevance, and they don't have national relevance Locally.
You know, Chicago's what the third or fourth biggest market
in America. Not a tough stadium to get to. You
should be able to sell that out. But I was
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talking about national relevance, and the Bulls do not have
that anymore. They did before, they didn't don't now JT
and Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hi, JT.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Hey them six foot and a funky one pounds.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
All right.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
So I'm the lead singer and founder of the United
Booty Foundation, and I would like to extend a laurel
and hearty invitation to mister Fritz to sing with the
band at our upcoming concert on July nineteenth, just outside
of Syracuse, New York.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't think he'll be joining you, JT.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But it's very flattering, though.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, thank you for the invitation.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He's got things to do, right, Todd? I always have things, Yes,
you do, unless you want to do the five hour drive.
Speaker 11 (14:27):
I've done that a number of times with my with
my son for school. That's it's quite the drive. But
I do appreciate the offer. It's very cool.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Todd is not driving five hours to drive to soon.
You know that was a Booty noundation, the United Booty
not even when United Booty calls all Blue Blue Bloo.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Emilio in Vegas joints us Amelia.
Speaker 12 (14:54):
Dan, Hey, how you guys are doing five nine, two
and thirty five pounds? This question is more for Dan,
like more of like some advice my son. He's seventeen
and a half used to play soccer, had a knee injury.
Taurus Pattel attendant can't play anymore or doesn't want to
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play anymore, but he wants to get into announcing. He
does do it for a local team here. He's been
doing it for a couple of months. They really like him.
He's grown a lot since he first started. But just
advice of like, okay, go to college, get this broadcasting degree,
(15:38):
or do this like actual like real world advice to
get to a profession, you know, like you I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So well, Okay, there's no direct route to this. There
is no direct route. If you do this, then you
become this. It doesn't happen that way. If your son
is doing something now, does he want to continue to
explore that on the local level. Does he want to
go to college to take broad casting or journalism? You know,
(16:11):
that's up to him. It's it's way too wide of
a spectrum for me to go. This is what your
son should do. He has to do what he feels
he's comfortable doing will help him what he wants to do.
Not everybody wants to go to college, or if you
go to college, you may not get on the.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Campus radio station. But you know, that's sort of the goal.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You have to have something where you can hand you
an employer, a potential employer, and say here's how I sound.
That's first thing I would say. I've had people say, hey,
do you think i'd be good in TV?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I go, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Let me see you on TV. Or hey, I think
I could do that on radio. Well, let me hear
what you sound like on radio. I mean, that's really
the important part of this. But there is no direct
route because I nearly quit the business at twenty seven
because I didn't get a job in local sports in Dayton, Ohio,
and on kind of a whim, went to Atlanta and
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got hired at CNN. Six months later, I'm in New York.
Five years later, I'm on Sports Center. It doesn't happen
that way, and it's changed so much. But I would
tell your son get as many reps as possible. But
if you do want to go to college and you
want to learn English, you want to learn speech, you
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want to learn broadcasting, great the Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting,
we have that. That's what your major is in in Orlando,
Florida at full Sale University. So there are options. Syracuse
is an option, Northwestern Arizona State. There's plenty of Missouri,
There's plenty of great schools for this. But it's really
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it comes down to you, the individual. Because I don't
know your son, and I don't know if he's good.
I don't know if he has potential. But you know,
get ready to get kicked around. I will say that
because it is a tough, tough, tough business. Because your
son seventeen and a half. How many seventeen year old,
(18:11):
eighteen year old, nineteen year old, twenty year old kids
want to do this? Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands.
What makes you different? That's what you have to find out. Well,
take a break. Mark Sanchez from Fox Sports will join us.
Coming up next here Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
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Speaker 3 (18:43):
Mark Sanchez NFL and Fox Analysts, former NFL quarterback. Let
me start with the Steelers. Best case scenario for Pittsburgh
this year is going to be what in your opinion.
Speaker 13 (18:54):
Well, I got to check in Dan at six' to
two and a quarter two forty.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Five getting a little, heavier aren't.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
We, yeah twins will do that to.
Speaker 13 (19:04):
You And i've been CE i might as.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Well you should see me all, Right i've been carrying
him a.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Lot, well why you're playing?
Speaker 13 (19:15):
WEIGHT i was like two twenty eight to two thirty
five right in, there so we're good ten pounds.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Over, Yeah brady still looks the. Same, WELL i.
Speaker 13 (19:28):
Don't want to sleep in a crypt and sell my
soul to the. Devil And i'm just the dude's an
incredible shape and high to the Dan. Nettes and you
know what it's really. BEEN i think it's been celebrating
my bracketology knowledge from the college basketball tournament and you,
know the parades and ribbon cuttings and. Events i'm Like
(19:49):
america's guests right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Now it's incredible how much you know about college. BASKETBALL
a lot of.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Good, food.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
You, KNOW i might get out the Way i'm living
my best is, nice you. Know but for The, steelers,
tohoot it's it's such a unique, situation right because they're
they're this blue collar. Organization everything's in, house you, know
they they they they keep everything tight and they rarely
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go poach a superstar and add them to what they
have going.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
On it's.
Speaker 13 (20:27):
Different you guys are talking about the sale of The
lakers and. Stuff, well The lakers are known to go
grab a superstar and bring them under The lakers, banner
and they're still one of the most iconic brands around the.
World shaquille. O'Neill you know these different players that they
Brought Lebron, james they made their name somewhere. Else So
Aaron rodgers made his name somewhere else in a blue
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collar city In Green, bay and then kind of outgrew that.
RELATIONSHIP i guess, right they kind of parted. Mutually whatever
goes To New york doesn't work out perfect tough media,
market and now he's got to kind of be in
this blue collar.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Town the only thing.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
That bridges that, gap because everybody's so scared about that
because there's no numbers right, now right nobody's producing anything right,
now there's no, Games so everybody's just, speculating, like, well
can he fit?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
In can he fit? In?
Speaker 13 (21:18):
Culture fit culture Fit he's too. Counterculture he's not one of.
Us he's not a, steeler you, know and there's us
versus them mentality when you're with The, steelers look at
the terrible, towels look at all, that, Right so they
have that. Culture the only thing that bridges that gap
is his. Production and if he produces the way he
produced last, year the last ten games he was on a,
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heater he single handedly basically kept The jets playoffs hopes.
Alive they lost about going back and watching some of their,
games they lost about three games just with special teams,
alone just field goal kicking specifically. Alone so those three
games at the end of the. YEAR i, Mean i'm
not like the president Of Aaron rodgers fan club or,
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anything but damn, dude the guy played his ass. Off
he threw for like thirty nine hundred yards or just near.
Whatever it was twenty eight, touchdowns eleven. Picks the last
ten weeks was eighteen, touchdowns four. PICKS i, mean put
it this, way The vikings would get if you could
tell The vikings right, NOW jj McCarthy's gonna Have Aaron
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rodgers statline from last year. One they would sign that
deal in blood immediately. Immediately SO i, mean, listen the
guy did all that at forty one years, old coming
off of An achilles with a defense that they thought
was better and didn't quite pan, out a special teams
that was, rough you, know to be nice about. IT
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i don't dislike the. MOVE i think IT'S i think
it's probably the right. Spot you're always gonna get a
team that's that's, tough hard, nosed blue, collar and they're
gonna put you in good. Situations they're gonna handle all
the media. Stuff they can handle some of the.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Stuff you.
Speaker 13 (22:58):
Know, Yeah aaron might say something here or. There, okay
he's a little. Different he's not your average you, know
your candid. Line, hey we got to bring our a
game and we didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Today that's not his.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Interview, okay, Fine so WHAT i think the culture of
that place and his production most, importantly can can bridge
that gap and they can be.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Successful.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
YEAH i think people have a problem with the person
and not the. Player and that's WHERE i always say to,
people you may not like that, person but do you
like the, player because that's that's the bottom. Line the
great equalizer is when you get on the, field what
can you. Do it's, like you, know you may not
Like Shador sanders', personality but if he can play when
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he gets on the, field that's all that.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Matters, yes for production breeds.
Speaker 13 (23:47):
Tolerance, yes winning cures. Warts like that's what happened that
people allow a lot if their team is.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Winning i'm trying to understand what The bengals are doing
because it's kind of counter, culture or that they're all.
Offense they're going all in and we're just going to,
score because it doesn't seem like defense is a.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Priority how does this? Work here's my.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
Thing everybody seems to have to play by the same, rules,
right everybody's got the salary, cap everybody has the same
number of players.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
That they can.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
Sign and certain, teams just like we talked about, culture
whether it's basketball or, football The, Steelers, Lakers, bengals certain
teams find themselves in these public kind of nasty negotiations
and certain teams. Don't The bengals are notorious for, This
like it's just always happened to the. Cowboy If Dak
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prescott has a leaky fawcet in his, basement people find
out about. It it's just kind of the way it
is In New. York you, know no matter what you,
do trying to prove to your team that you, know
you're this. Quarterback it's about football and you're trying to win.
Games we go out to a dinner and happen to
be with somebody. Famous, well oh, dude he's just out
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on the town every. Night well is that the?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
TRUTH i don't. Know so.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Okay some of it's regional, coverage some of it's the,
team some of it's the, organization the leadership and the
culture within that. Place but let's not Forget Carson palmer
literally walked away for the game of football because he
was so frustrated with this. Organization and they've notoriously underpaid
some of their players or offered such low contracts that
people are, like, Dude i'm out of. Here whether it's
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whitworth a tackle or. Whoever you, know guys are just,
like come, on man, like and everybody has to deal with.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It SO i don't.
Speaker 13 (25:37):
Understand but when we go back to, production this guy's
producing better than anybody in the league the last couple of.
Years made a name for himself In New orleans on
his rookie, contract played that contract out opposite Of Cam
jordan down there and gets a huge contract And cincy
and now it's time for the next version of that,
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contract the next iteration of that, contract and it sounds
like they're upset over the length of the contract and the.
Number but whatever it, IS i, mean you can't let
you can't let guys like that walk out of the.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Building and.
Speaker 13 (26:14):
You know he's not going to want to take too
much less based on his. Production and if you're going
to pay all these other, guys are you just going
to score fifty points a? Game is it going to
look like the Old big? Twelve you score fifty and
give up forty? Nine, LIKE i guess we'll hold on your.
Hat but this guy's share helps on defense and gets
your quarterback the ball.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Back, well your first round pick is not in camp,
either but you know in edge rusher as. Well so
it felt, like you know what you get this guy
who who was an underachiever in, college But stuart does
have the.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Potential hendrickson has proven.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That you, know he's given you seventeen and a half
sacks and on average the last two. Years now you
have some, defense and you've got all of that. OFFENSE
i don't care how much offense you. Got at some
point you got to stop. Somebody And CINCINNATI'S i mean
this philosophy is really. COUNTERCULTURE i also wanted to ask
(27:06):
you about you start a rookie quarterback or that at
what point do you get To Now i'm going to
put you in how much damage can be done to
a rookie quarterback when you get into a situation that
maybe you shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
In, yeah it's a fragile, psyche and there's there's different
ways to approach. It, OBVIOUSLY i have my own. Experience
my experience is shaped off of the year before me being,
drafted When Matt ryan And Joe flacco make the playoffs as.
Rookies before, that it was rare for a rookie to
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just go out and start. Right Carson palmer waited Behind
kitna for a, year you, know and he was pick
number one, Overall so that was kind of the mode.
Before let him, listen let him, watch let him. Learn
how DO i come up with a pregame? Routine how
DO i dress when we go on road? Trips what's
my routine at the? Hotel what DO i? Eat all
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these kind of little. Things not just learning plays and
positions and defensive fronts and. Blitzes you got a lot
of other things to, learn just an awareness. Thing so
it depends on the, PLAYER i think number, one and
then it depends largely on the supporting. Cast if you
have the supporting cast that can carry the weight of
a rookie when they don't play as well as they
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should in certain. Situations AND i was. THERE i, mean
we were in a game against The bills AND i
threw five interceptions and we almost kicked a game winning
field goal With Jay, feely who's now running For. Congress
APPARENTLY i got a message about that kind of.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Crazy, sorry but.
Speaker 13 (28:46):
We're in the game with five. TURNOVERS i, Mean i'm
not helping us. Win if, anything they're winning in spite of.
Me so those kind of things are going to. Happen
now if you have an established starter like A Russell
wilson Or Jameis winston or whatever's going on with The,
giants and then they're gonna get their, shot and if
it doesn't work, out then you bring the rookie. In to,
(29:08):
me that's a little bit like free reps and less,
pressure and we're not like trying for a playoff. Spot
it's almost like pick up. Basketball and there's a very fine.
LINE i want you to go get the CONDITIONING i
want you to go get some shots. Off you're gonna
get fouled a little harder than you probably should in
a real game with true rules instead of people just
(29:30):
calling their own. Fouls BUT i also don't want you
to develop a bunch of bad, habits. RIGHT i don't
want this to turn into an one mixtape where you're
just dribbling the ball all over the place thinking you're the, professor.
Like it doesn't work like. THAT i want you to
still play quarterback for our team and get some of these.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Reps we're gonna watch all these.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
Reps after the year and then take the good from,
them keep moving, on keep. Progressing so there's different ways
to approach. It but if you have the supporting cast
that knows it's mature enough to know and talented enough to, know,
hey we're going to have to pick up some slack
for this guy who's going to have a couple of rough,
outings like some, bad bad, outings then, okay and we're
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not going to turn on. Them you can't turn on
them because as soon as you turn on, them you
lose the. Kid you, know you got to, remember these
guys are twenty, one twenty two years old and the
face of the, franchise and they were just at a frat,
party you, know going to invites and you, know winning
their bowl games and big man on. Campus and now
you're the face of a. Franchise you're still twenty two years,
(30:31):
old making all this, money and you're supposed to have
the discernment and you, know intelligence of A Supreme court,
justice and it's just not. Reality you're still a. Kid
you just have a lot more money and a lot
more access to really cool, stuff and you've got to
be more mature than you're really expected to be at that.
Age so it's it's a, tricky tricky. SITUATION i think
(30:52):
it depends on the player and the supporting.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Cast what was that, like you've thrown five?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Interceptions what's it like when that next play comes in
and it's a?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Pass, well, yeah it's it's so.
Speaker 13 (31:05):
FUNNY i was of the mind, that, like just get
me another quick, completion even if it's a called run
and we have like a little bubble screen or something
attached to the, Run just get me the ball in
my hand SO i could feel the little dimples on
That wilson ball on the duke and just flick it
to somebody quickly and get the taste out of my
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mouth and move.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
On and THEN i.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Would always revert back to A Pete carroll story that
he told, me and he's, like you can't be afraid
to throw the next, Interception like you got to keep.
Fighting you got to keep chucking the, ball not, recklessly
but you got to keep chucking the.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Ball and he went to a speech or an event
With Rick. BERRY i think her.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Literally that you weren't aid afraid to throw an interception that?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Day, no you.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Can't well, no but he went to this talk with Rick.
Berry i'll say it, fast BUT i know we got to.
Go but Rick berry basically gives this speech And pete's
a young coach and he runs over to him and he,
says Rick, RICK i JUST i love what you. Said
i'm a big fan with what do you do when
you miss your first ten? Shots and Rick berry immediately,
(32:16):
LIKE i, mean he was known to be pretty, brash
and he was kind of a, dick you, know but
he was a hell of a competitor and great basketball.
Player but he basically looked at him and, said you,
Know i'm a whatever percentage, shooter like forty percent. Shooter he,
goes IF i miss my first ten, shots you better look.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Out because the next ten are going. In you know
WHAT i. Mean like that was his.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Mentality So pete used to give us that speech and remind, us,
listen you go out and throw three picks in the first,
Quarter well you're a three to one touchdown to interception
kind of. Guy that's the kind of quarterbacks we groom.
Here so if you throw three right away out of the, gate,
defense better watch, out you know WHAT i. Mean that,
day maybe not Against, buffalo but it all evens.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Out to catch up with, YOU i hope it's a
great summer and we'll catch up with you soon.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Again appreciate you. Guys, thanks thank.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You That's Mark, SANCHEZ nfl And Fox, analysts FORMER nfl.
Quarterback we'll take a break last call for phone, calls
what we, learn what's in store.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Tomorrow right after, this.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Be sure to catch the live edition Of The Dan
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Speaker 3 (33:24):
WAP lsu And Coastal Carolina Men's College World. SERIES i
Think Coastal carolina The Chanta clears have won twenty six
games in a. ROW i, believe And arkansas got walked
off BY lsu. Yesterday watch a lot of. It you,
know it's a great. Time it's on in the afternoon
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AND i can nap around, it nap, around.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Nap.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Around let me.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
See Oh todd has a sports centered, TEASE i, believe don't.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
YOU i do.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
NOT i just was coming up with a couple of
cute lines. Early BUT i didn't put together a whole
sports center. TOO i would have sent it around.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It, oh because you haven't usually sent it around. Before
you just send it to.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Me OR i said it's A paul because sometimes something
will be. Inappropriate then he'll have to flag it and
say that's not.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay So america just lost today just?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Now or did they?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
WIN i don't.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
KNOW i Appreciate todd's editing right.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Here Oh seaton didn't want to hear. SPORTS i think
it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Growth.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Yeah, NO i didn't have all. THERE i just say
a couple of cloth, reliines BUT i don't need to
do it on.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
There, Okay, NOW i don't want it, tomorrow that's.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Fine but Usually i'll throw it a piece of paper
on you as you're walking BY i know THAT i
stick my foot out and trip you up with, it
BUT i didn't do.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Anything, no you have dropped the paper right in front of.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Me many hints.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You did.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
NOT i went in the back AND i talked To
mario The eyes And ears of the, show AND i,
Said todd's got a SPORTS. Centertiez he, goes, yeah have
you heard?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It AND i go.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
NO i tried out.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
A couple of. Lines it didn't evolve into an actual
putting together for.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
SPORTS i do feel bad for the guys in the
back Because todd knows we're probably not going to listen
to him when he does his stand up. Act and
then he'll go in the back and just look for
somebody who is kind of handcuffed to their desk and
they can't get out a couple.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Things and then there you are right behind me saying
they have work to. Do you know they. Do let
them do their.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Work they.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Do mario And anthony are back there, working.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Not building the. Graphics listen to this LINE i.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Have, YEAH i got a great line here this day
in sports. History by the, way The podres have blown
a lead twenty four. Times that's tied with the athletics
for the second most in, baseball behind The White. Sox
like if you're in the company of The a's and
The White, sox chances are it's not very. Good but
The padres blew the lead last night With Will smith
(35:57):
with the pinch it walk off home. Run The dodgers
have one five in a row this day in sports, History, paul.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
One of my.
Speaker 14 (36:03):
Favorite nineteen forty, three THE nfl approved the merger of
The Philadelphia eagles in The Philadelphia. Steelers it was a
temporary merger because Of World War. Two they were low on.
Players do you remember what the name of this team,
was The steegles st e a g l e. S
i've seen this story, before but it never really delved into.
It but The Philadelphia steegles.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Okay brief period of, time okay Wild.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Jim bowton on this day in nineteen seventy put out
the Book ball. Four it was a on the road
kind of tell all behind the. Scene we had never
we had never read anything like this.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Before we knew.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Nothing you know, that we knew that there are probably
things that you know took place on a road. Trip
But boughton was such a great writer and he was a,
pitcher and he wrote the Book ball. FOUR i think
he also came out with Ball ball five maybe later.
On but really a, fascinating very entertaining, guy great. Writer
(37:02):
but he wrote the Book ball four That i'm trying
to remember what this was. Like SO i was just
getting into high school And i'm, like, goh, hey this
guy's going to get yelled. At he's going to get you,
know his teammates is going to be mad because he's
kind of given you the details on what happens on
a road trip and just really back behind the. Scenes
(37:25):
AND i think there's a line where they're pulling up
in the bus they're coming back from a road, trip
and Then boughton, says all, right guyslac horny because they
were just getting back from a road. Trip The cavaliers
in twenty, sixteen on this, day came back from a
three to one deficit to beat The warriors In game
(37:46):
seven ninety three eighty. Nine time to play The Tyres halliburton, Game, paul.
Speaker 14 (37:55):
Very, simple exactly how many points This Tyres halliburton half?
TONIGHT i will go?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
First? Zero oh sneaky, wow zero point.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Zero, todd how many Points Tyrese haliburton. Eleven, okay seatan,
Five marvin. Eight i'm going, fourteen going fourteen. Gorings, yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
It that's the whole.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Game, yeah that's. It it's.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Done we went up in three's five eight eleven. Fourteen
we had a trend.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
There thank, You.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Tom i'm that interesting.
Speaker 11 (38:38):
Numeral you did five eight eleven. Fourteen someone's got to say.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Seventeen and sometimes you can SAY i find that, interesting
but you can just find it interesting to.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yourself could be a thought.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Bubble it's a back and keep to myc you know.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What it could have been a.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
COINCIDENCE i probably should have just kept the mic off
and mumbled to. Myself fin made eleven.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Fourteen that's the final results of the poll question seating.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Five eight eleven. FOURTEEN i do Appreciate todd's ability with
his love of numerale does love. Numerology IF i could
give you one of these, today ownership of The lakers
are ten billion dollars right, now ninety percent are taking
the ten.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Bill but if you're a die Hard laker fan and
you get a chance to own, this and this is
the only chance you'd ever get a chance to own,
this if you had the, money then you would you
would take you would take The, LAKERS i, Think AND
i get the other ninety percenter, saying NOW i could
spend my money, WISE i could get season tickets to
The lakers and go enjoy them and sit, courtside AND
(39:33):
i could spend my money else.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
ELSEWHERE i understand.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
That, okay all, right all, RIGHT i understand ten million.
Dollars but it would be awesome owning The. Lakers it
would be it would be. Great that would be so, Sick.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah it would. Be let's, see did we learn anything
on today's? Show, todd what'd you learn?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Today we always learned Something Brendan hayward learned.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
Firsthand if you can't Help Michael Jordan, win he has
no time for, you he'll say it right To, Also, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Good appearance by, him he was. Good you see him
ON NBA, Tv paul Or No. Seaton, YEAH i think
we got a new regular. Today as a matter of,
fact he was. Fantastic all, Right, marvin would you learn?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Today five eight, eleven?
Speaker 14 (40:13):
Fourteen, Okay, paul it feels like The bus family maybe
had to.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Sell, yeah it did sound a little bit like. That,
todd what DID i learn on today's award nominated. Program
dane In New york.
Speaker 11 (40:24):
Thinks there's something about the blue and silver of the
cowboys appealing to both men and women.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Alike thanks for the phone, calls, emails, tweets the all around.
Support we'll do it again tomorrow on the program on
A Meet friday For Fritzie seat And Marv paula yours,
Truly we'll talk to you tomorrow