August 6, 2025 • 41 mins
NFL insider Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Jerry Jones negotiations with Micah Parsons and the banning of smelling salts in the league. Plus, senior sports media reporter Michael McCarthy has all the details of the new media deal between the NFL and ESPN.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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few things NFL wise, the merger between the mothership, NFL
Network and the NFL ten percent stake in ESPN. Now,
it's probably going to have to wait until twenty twenty six.
I'm just looking at some of the details, and these
negotiations have lasted for about four years, but they finally
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have figured out how they can do this. The deal
is subject to regulatory approval. If approved, it likely won't
take effect until at least twenty twenty six. As part
of the deal, ESPN will get an additional three NFL
games per season they were air on NFL network partnership,
and you have, you know, three entities here, NFL Network,
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the mothership, and NFL getting a ten percent ownership stake
in ESPN. I think from what I'm looking at, we'll
find out a little bit more here later on in
the hour, but this might help with the distribution around
the world, having the partnership with the SPN. I'm just
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curious about what it means for you, the consumer. Likely,
what's this costing you? That's that's really all I care about,
you know, is the red zone going to cost more?
Springing Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host is
new book, Big Shield, comes out August nineteenth. That's about
the intersection of gambling, the mob, and pro football. You
(01:53):
can pre order the ebook for just ninety nine cents
on Amazon. What does this deal mean? Let's start with
the consumer. Why would they care about this merger?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I don't know that the consumer was at the
front of the mind for either of the party get
involved in this. Frankly, the NFL has had essentially a
struggling media property in NFL Network. It's never become what
they thought it was going to be. They created Thursday
Night Football as a way to prop up NFL Network.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It debuted in two.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Thousand and six as a back half of the season
Thursday Night package to give NFL Network something that would
make cable providers want it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It still never really.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Took off, and they've been trying for years to unload it. Dan,
I mean like ten years they've been trying to get
rid of this, and they've tied it different things. NBC
was in the conversation at one point, and now they
get ten percent equity in ESPN for these failing properties.
And yeah, I don't know that the consumer was the
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main reason for this. And now the question becomes, how
do we make this seamless for the consumer? You know,
for example, ESPN did a deal as part of this
to continue to televise the draft for the next five years. Well,
when you turn on NFL network for the draft, are
you going to see Rich Eisen?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now are you gonna see Mike Greenberg? Who's it going
to be?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And I think it's important for them to keep things
normal from the perspective of the consumer, because I think
most people are afraid number one, things are going to
change and number two, we're gonna get screwed. I just
think that's the natural reaction to this news that these
two behemoths have come together.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
One of the first things that came to mind is
what if Fox has a problem with their deal or
the NFL says to Fox here, take it, take it
or leave it. We'll have some like I don't know
if there's gonna be well, the NFL is in bed
with ESPN, and what's that mean for the other TV partners?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We will see and look, you give the league ten
percent equity in your company, and maybe the value isn't
there to support it, but you know what's not going
to happen. You're not gonna lose Monday Night Football. You're
not gonna lose your spot in the Super Bowl rotation.
You are now a permanent partner of the NFL at
a time when all the tech companies are hovering and
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the TV deals are up after twenty twenty nine, technically
twenty thirty three, but the league has the ability to
pull the plug, and obviously they will. ESPN doesn't have
to worry about being left out in the cold and
Dan the other thing this does, and this really needs
to be fleshed out by the union. Instead of taking
money for these properties, taking equity. That may screw the
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players because the players don't share equity with the league.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
The players share money with the league.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So you're offloading more games to ESPN and they're not
paying X one hundred million for them.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They're giving you equity all under.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
The CBA that equity may be exclusive to ownership, and
until equity turns into money, players don't get a penny.
That's something the new interim executive director of the union
had better put at the top of his to do
list to figure out, how are we possibly getting screwed
by this.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You might be the first person, maybe the only person
who pointed this out, but Jerry Jones talking to Micah
Parsons without representation in there is not allowable. But Jerry
wants the conversation to be allowable, and that they had
a deal back in March. So what is the rule
of an owner talking directly to a player about a contract?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, you really couldn't make this up. The Jerry Jones
and Chris Simms made this point earlier day on PFT Live.
Certain owners will invoke any and all rules that help them. Well,
that's the rule, Hey, the rules of the rules contracts contracts.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
CBA says we can do this.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But as to the stuff that gets in the way
of what we're trying to do, forget about the rules.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And it's clear in the CBA.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
If there is a verbal agreement that has reached between
a player and a team. It must be reduced to
writing as soon as practical, the idea that they did
a handshake deal back in March.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And I think you know, if there was a flow.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Chart, Dan, step one would be, will Micah accept the
deal that he supposedly agreed to in March, which surely
is far less than whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He wants now? And if he won't, I think what
Jerry's trying to.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Do is get Mica to play for twenty four million
this year and they're kick it all the next year.
But you're right under the CBA, you can't do this.
You can't negotiate directly with the players. The agent is
the exclusive representative certified by the union to act as
the union in the dealings between player and team, and
the NFL hasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Done anything about it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The union hasn't done anything about it. So hey, if
I'm Jerry Jones and they're not gonna tell me I
can't do it, what the hell I'll keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
How's this play out?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I really do think that Jim wants Micah to either
take the deal that they had a handshake on in
March or play for twenty four million this year and
kick it to next year.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Because the key is this.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Dan, the longer the team can keep the injury risk
on the player, the more the team is protected against
something happening to the player that would keep him from
ever playing again, or playing as well as he used to.
Career ending or career limiting. The risk is on the player,
not on us, and for the team that's dealing with
a bunch of different players. The more times you can
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keep that risk on the players, the better off you
are over the long haul. And we've seen that they
kick the can with Dak Prescott. You know, they kicked
the can until somebody says enough. That's why I still
think he should have held out. If he'd have held out,
they would eventually have caved like they did for Ceedee
Lamb last year, like they did for Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They're going to try to I think, if he won't
take the deal that he supposedly agreed to in March,
they're going to try to kick this to next year.
And I know twenty four million sounds like a lot
of money, but when the market's forty one and Mike
should be getting forty five, yeah, you don't want to
play this year for twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why doesn't somebody say to Jerry Jones, you know, Jerry,
you can't negotiate a contract with a player.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And well, because for whatever reason, nobody is willing to
tell Jerry Jones he can't do it, and the union
hasn't filed a grievance.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It would be very easy to do.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
If this new interim executive director wants to make a splash.
What he could do, what David White could do, immediately
file a grievance against the Cowboys and Jerry Jones for
dealing directly with players when they should be dealing with
the agent you want, you want to try to balance
out the relationship a little bit, stand up and fight
for your players.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live, co host
the show that preceeds hours on Peacock. In his next book,
Big Shield, comes out August nineteenth. It's the intersection of gambling,
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of nowhere, the NFL comes out with no more smelling salts?
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Where's this been?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Or you know what took so long?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's been sixteen years since they had their concussion epiphany.
The first time I ever became aware of smelling salts,
it was in a movie or a TV show where
a boxer gott knocked senseless and they stuck it under
his nose to wake him up. And now they're finally like, oh,
it could mask the symptoms of a concussion. Yeah, of
course it can. That's why they use them. And how
many years have we seen like the images of a
guy on the sidelines, not because he's taken a blow
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to the head, but just it kind of gets them going,
Like it's always been a weird look for the NFL,
And now all of a sudden they realize probably not
a good idea to supply these, and they haven't banned them.
You can bring your own, I assume, bring your own
smelling salts, stick them in your sock, and if you
need a little kick before the game, so be it.
But it's always been a strange thing to me, the
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huffing of ammonia at a time when they're ultra sensitive
to concussions, where the smelling salts are always the thing
that they use to wake a guy up who's taking
a blow to the head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, so they're taking the liability away from the teams.
Now it's on you. If you want to use smelling salts,
you can. We just we're not taking any ownership.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
We're not supplying them.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Now they'd have to negotiate with the union. See that's
the thing, and this gets back to collective bargaining. The
league never wants to have to give anything up just
because currently the players are allowed to bring their own
smelling salts, they're not banned from using them. So they
have to sit down and give up a little of this,
give up a little of that. Maybe do a handshake
deal with Jerry Jones in the room, and the next
thing you know, the players are banned from using them
at all. But yes, this is a liability thing, Dan,
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we can't get sued. We can't get in trouble for
supplying these to somebody who has a concussion and they
take the hit of it, and they go back in
and play and they get a second concussion and they
have a serious injury as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
If I'm a Rams fan and I'm listening watching concerned
about Matthew Stafford, what would you tell the Rams fan
today about this situation?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I would say that for now, you should not be concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I believe, and I'm told he'll be back on the
field later this week. Now, I don't know where that means.
He's going to be fully participating in practice. Would be
working out on the field of a month to get
ready for week one. And Matthew Stafford I said this
earlier day. If he wrote an autobiography, the chapter on
all the injuries that he's had in his career would
be the longest chapter in any book that's ever been written.
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He's had injuries we know about, He's had injuries we
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He just sucks it up and he keeps going.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think they have deliberately given him time to let
the back settle down. Anybody that's ever had a back
problem knows it operates on its own timetable and it
needs a certain period of time to get back to normal,
and they wanted to, I believe, let it get to
normal and give it even more time before they put
him out there, because they don't want this to keep
coming up throughout the course.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
To the season.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Troy Aikman has said, Hey, people think I retired because
of concussions. I retired because of back problems, and you
think of a way that quarterbacks move and the twisting
and the torking.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
They're just giving him extra time. I think it'll be
good to go.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Are the Browns trying to win this year?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I think that they're trying to do Dan.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's a twist on the plot of Major League Their
fans are upset that they're moving out of downtown Cleveland, right,
so if they are really really bad, the fans won't
be as upset that they're moving to suburban Brook Park
when they build their new stadium. It really is ridiculous
to me, and this is what happens when you prioritize
strategizing and analytics over building a football team. You don't
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draft Shade or Sanders in round five when you've taken
Dylan Gabriel in round three, you don't obviously give up
three first round picks plus and a two hundred and
thirty million dollars fully guaranteed contract in Shaan Watson. It's
like every decision point the Browns have in front of
them over the past ten years, they've gone the wrong
way and here's where they are.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
So, yeah, this is gonna be It just feels like
it's going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
To be a disaster for the Browns, and I feel
bad for Browns fans. They deserve so much better than
what they've gotten. And it all goes back to ownership.
It all starts there, and what they've gotten under Jimmy
Haslam has been unacceptable.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
What does Deshaun Watson do every day.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, he is working his way back Dan to full health.
And that is where this messy quarterback situation gets even worse.
When he shows up with the piece of paper that
says you're good to go. They got a decision to make.
They either got to put him on the fifty three
man roster with however many other quarterbacks they're going to
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carry into the season, or they have to release him
and Dan.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
If they release him, they take.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
A one hundred and thirty million dollars cap charge next
year for his contract.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
If they release him right now.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So he may be on the roster, we may have
a fight under the CBA where the player says I'm
healthy and the team says, no, you're not, and they
have a grievance where the doctors fight it out to
prove whether or not Deshaun Watson's healthy and if he wins.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
They've either got to put him on the roster or
they have to cut him. That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And they're not going to cut him because they're not
going to take that one hundred and thirty one million
dollar cap charge next year.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Does Deshaun Watson want to play football game?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think he looked, and you know, I think where
the worm may have turned for him, because you know,
between the rustiness and the injuries and the off field issues,
I think it really did affect him as a human being.
How could it not all those different things. And look,
I'm not excusing it direct result of his own alleged misbehavior,
but when the owner of the team comes out and
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says in March Man, we really took a swing and
a miss on.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That one, that's kind of a middle finger to Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
So now he's got a purpose, he's got a reason,
he's got he's got an apollo creed for his Rocky
bow Bull to try to make this a comeback story.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And I'm sure he'd love to stick it to Jimmy
Haslam and put the Browns in the position where they've
got to activate him and put him back on the roster.
I think the guy fully intends to get healthy and
come back and try to be the guy that he
was that made the Browns give up all that stuff
to get him.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Can Justin Tucker play again?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, he's going to have to serve the ten game suspension.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But you know, Dan, the reality is this, he dipped
last year from a performance standpoint.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Now if he can convince a.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Team that he can show up and kick like he
used to, then you get into the question of do
we want to take and this look, I hate to
be the cynical, but this is the way it works.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
What's the pr hit. What kind of criticism are we
going to take if we bring in Justin Tucker? How
much better is he going to make us?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Are we better off just getting a guy no one
knows to be our kicker? That's the analysis of team's
going to have to make.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Good to talk to you. Thank you again, Mike, see
you about that. It's Mike Florio fighting a good fight.
Pro Football Talk Live co host NBC Football Night in America.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, the Justin.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Tucker, you know, the combination of everything that happened off
the field and on the field, he wasn't good or
wasn't up to his Hall of Fame standards made it
easy for the Ravens to go.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
We can say goodbye to.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You, but if this is three years ago, then all
of a sudden you have to weigh the It's just
like when Michael Vick came out of prison and he
went to the Eagles. All Right, there's going to be
a pr hit. How long is it going to last?
Is it worth it?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Ray Rice? Ray Rice couldn't overcome that. But he was
a little bit older as a running back, and we
couldn't overcome that. We see this all the time. It's
you know, what are you accused of? And how good
are you? It's kind of a you know, this scale
balancing that you have with some teams like you know,
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and I always love when the owner or the GM
or the coach, everybody deserves a second chance. Okay, you'll
go get him, all right, We'll take a break. More
on the ESPN, NFL, NFL network merger, have that for
you coming up.
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
More phone calls coming up eight seven to seven, three
DP show. Mike McCarthy, Front office sports senior media reporter
and tuned in columnists joining us on the program. Mike,
thanks for joining us. What did ESPN buy from NFL Network?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
I think they bought themselves an insurance policy, Dan. I
think when you look at the future and you see
streamers like Apple coming in, it's going to be a
lot harder for NFL to get rid of ESPN or
take away their Monday Night package if they're actual equity
partners together. So I think that's one thing. I think
number two they bought a huge selling point for their
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new direct to consumer platform, red Zone, NFL Network, NFL programming,
this is the beachfront property that we all want. So
I think those are the two big things.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Anybody else consider this move buying NFL network.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yeah, they talked to a lot of people, and only ESPN,
you know, came up and stepped up to the table.
And I think there's going to be a lot of
grousing Dan amongst the other media partners. Is ESPN going
to get favored nation treatment? Are they going to get
a better game schedule? Are they gonna get more Super Bowls?
But you know, I think the NFL's answer to that
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will be tough. You had your chance and just like
the NFL TV partners passed on Thursday Night Football and
it ended up on Amazon, they had their chance and
they didn't go for it.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Does Fox have a gripe about this? Does NBC have
a gripe? Will they?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
As you said, it feels like the NFL is going
to give preferential treatment to ESPN, and you know, as
a result of this deal, I.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Think they will have a gripe. I think there's going
to be grumbling. I think there's gonna be some you know,
working of the referees as it were then, you know,
to trying to make sure everybody gets favored nation status.
But in the end of the NFL doesn't care. The
NFL makes up the rules and they play by their
own rules, and you know, if they don't like it,
they can go pound sand.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So in three years from now, Stephen A. Smith is
handing out the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Well, actually I was hoping you would do it then.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm not going back to the Mothership, but you know,
maybe rich Eisen can, because they it would be awesome
if Chris Berman got to hand out a super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
And that was one of my favorite stories recently was
ESPN extending Boomer through his fiftieth year at the Mothership
and making sure he's part of the super Bowl. You know,
as you know Dan, you know, ESPN has wanted the
Super Bowl since its founding. They've got a countdown clock
there on Bristol, you know, ticking away the time until
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twenty twenty seven. So it's gonna be big for that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I remember when I was up there, what was at
the forty fifth anniversary, and I was talking to Jimmy Pataro,
and I said, don't let Chris Berman disappear. Don't let
him disappear. The network owes him. Make sure you keep
him on primetime. And you know what he did. He said,
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you know, I really appreciate you tell me that. I said,
this is what Chris lives for. This is important to him,
and I truly mean that. You know what he's meant.
He's the most important person in the history of ESPN
because of what he's done for that place and continues
to do it. So if he got a chance to
hand out the Super Bowl Trophy, the only problem is
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they would have to tell Chris, you got to speed up,
though you can't meet you know, spending a lot of
time at you know, time is money, get the trophy,
do your interviews, and then send it back up to
the booth.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
That's right, that's right. He's got to get it. He's
got to get it together to do it fast. But
I mean, you're right. I mean, NFL Prime Time was
so influential back in the day for the Internet and
all the rest of it. That's how we got our highlights,
you know, that's how we checked that our fantasy football
players and we lived and died by that show.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Talking to Mike McCarthy, it's front office sports senior media reporter,
I brought up the conflict of interest with the Mothership
and the NFL.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't know if it matters.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know that they own ten percent of ESPN now,
and you know ESPN has been a partner with NFL forever. Anyway,
I mean, this now just becomes official. Is there any
thought to that from ESPN side of this, of the
optics of how this looks?
Speaker 8 (22:17):
You know, I was asking them about it today and
they don't see it as a problem. I mean, ESPN
is already paying two point seven billion dollars a year
for Monday Night football rights, which is far more than
any other media reporter. You know, as a journalist. Does
it concern me? Yes, But I think these issues are
come under the heading of the horses out of the barn.
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You know, we're not going back to the days where
ESPN is going to do playmakers or do something that's
going to tick off Paul Tagloubu or Roger Goodell. They
know that the NFL is where it's at and they
want to stay on the good side of the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
The future of red zone is.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Future of Red Zone is not going to change, Thank you.
Scott Hansen will continue to host The Red Zone, they
will continue to produce the show NFL Network. However, here's
the real wrinkle in this, Dan is, ESPN gets the
rights to the Red Zone brand, so they will in
the future be able to do future red zones for
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other league partners. Now, if I'm a ESPN I'm going
to the NBA right now and saying I want to
do a red zone for the NBA, especially with Amazon
and NBC breathing down my neck this.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Wall, Well, they would have the licensing for red Zone.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
You're saying, that's right, and they would be able to
create a red zone for the NBA, a red zone
for the NHL, possibly a red zone for college football,
and ESPN would own those new rights going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Great work, keep it up, Mike. Great to talk to
you again, Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's Michael McCarthy. He's a front office sports your media reporter.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's interesting, but once again, some of it is kind
of inside TV, and that's where I want to kind
of figure out what it's going to mean to us
the consumer, you know, the cord cutting. You know, that
was a big reason why Mothership was trying to how
do we how do we, you know, ensure ourself that
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we're going to continue to be worth whatever it is.
I think the three years ago twenty six billion dollars
the evaluation was with the Mothership. Now you add this
and it feels like NFL Network or they finally get
a home. ESPN gets more programming and a better relationship
with the league, and the league gets more distribution. It
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feels like it's a win win win until you get
your cable bill and all of a sudden you go,
wait a minute, why am I paying for Scott Hanson here?
Even though I love Scott, but you're going to be
paying for it somehow, some way the direct to consumer.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Over the past fifteen years, ESPN has had a goal
zone goal line system for college football. It's not as
robust and perfect like the NFL because the games aren't
scheduled exactly that way, but they do have a bit
of a cutaway system to watch college football highlights.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
John and Syracuse. Hi John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
Hey Dan, I'm sitting on this for a while.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
I have all the hypothetical band names that you guys
have come up with throughout the years, and there's about
thirty five of them, and I can read them all
real quick, and I'll try not to make it look
like I'm eating my own face, Okay, Ladies and gentlemen.
Spontaneous displays of emotion, The Mellowists, rampant ignorance, the Dead
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Dad's Lights Out, Mary Factory of Sadness, Ornerie Colon, Mumball
and the Pretty Boys, Apache butter Knives, dial sloppiness, mutilated currency,
JD in the straight Shots, minimumkindness, big head syndrome, unpleasantly
stiff league, curated audio, wisdom in silence, absolute fury, occasional vacuum,
(26:17):
diminishing resumes, the reefer, perfect storm of crap tainted with sewage,
tragedy strewn screwball and dead leg PATCHI fog hate wish,
sustainable goodness, Albania struggles, potentially fraudulent dangling stones, back in shack,
rapid eye movement and tears of pressure.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Thank you, John h.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Aka this year's Bonnarula. I love that, Thank you, John.
The Ornery Colon, that's my favorite one.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I'm not mistaking. They open for gwar.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Ladies and gentlemen, The lead singer of Ornery Colon sayload
to Todd Fritz.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
How's it going everybody?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Thanks for coming out aw in Virginia. Aw, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Oh ay?
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I just wanted to tell you that the second Adam
Saler movie, the.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
Golf Movie, is awesome.
Speaker 14 (27:13):
My wife and I have already watched it twice.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
We think it's better than the first one.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, thank you, aw a lot of great reaction to it.
What I find, you know, kind of fascinating is I
have a couple of neighbors and they're around my age
and one of the guys I see him yesterday. He goes, uh,
saw the movie. Now I know just by that delivery
that you didn't like it. So he goes, hey, saw
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the movie. I said, Frank, it's not a movie for
our demographic. It's probably for your daughter, maybe somebody younger.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And he goes, Okay that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Was He goes, uh uh do they let you keep
the mustache? I go no, no, I had to give back.
Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (28:06):
Good morning, mister Patrick, gentleman A Todd Mark Seaman Lutang
Forever guys stuck at port side. Hey, Marvin, don't let
Dan lie to you. By the way, even us midwestern
white boys wanted aout Charlotte Hornets starter jacket. But speaking
of unis, Tampa Bay just revealed their like awesome nineteen
seventy six throwbacks that white with the creamsicle accident. I
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wanted to know your guys' opinion on the best throwbacks
from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay, but thank you, Corey. But hold on here. Not
everybody was in on the cream sickle. They made fun
of the cream sickle because Tampa wasn't good. If if
you had Patrick Mahomes wear cream sickle, it's going to
look good because it's Patrick Mahomes, or if Josh Allen's
wearing it, if you go back man, history was not
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kind to the creamsickle uniform.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
In fact, the griff artist Arsy, who did all the
work in the fieldhouse there out on the basketball court
in the football field, I had him come in when
Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, and I had him
come in and repaint Brady as a Patriot. And I said, hey,
I want you to do the cream sickle And he said,
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you're going to have to explain that to me. And
I said, here's the picture of the uniform. And if
you're watching on Peacock now, I asked my artist, who
is a wonderful street artist, and Arsy came in and
put Tom Brady in the creamsicle and it looks great
because it's Tom Brady in a creamsickle. That's the big difference.
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Craig in Virginia. Hi, Craig, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16 (29:44):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Dan?
Speaker 16 (29:45):
I love your interview is just like today's three, always
so insightful. I want to add that on your topic
earlier about Presidential Fitness Award, I'm a fifth grade teacher.
I can confirm that the Fitness award is very tough
to get. I'm still trying to get it thirty years later.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (30:01):
But more importantly, it's my wife and I's anniversary. You
guys are must listen in our household, especially when we
are on the road traveling during the summer. I want
to see if we can get a shout out for
my wife and I anniversary. Keep up the great job.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And your wife's name is Abby, Abby? Oh Abby?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
All right? Uh? Good kisser, what.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Craig, congratulations our best to Abba our best good kisser
abs absolutely absolutely Michael and Nashville.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Hi Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 14 (30:56):
How you doing? I got three quick questions for you.
I'll try to do this quickly. Number One, I'm driving
to Cincinnati currently. I know you know the area, so
I was curious for some beer restaurant or brewery suggestions
while my friend gets off work. Two I'm going to
the Cincinnati Open, So I'm curious about your favorite tennis
player that you've ever seen play live since I'll be
seeing Alcaraz in Center tomorrow. And last question, a little
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and a little off top of here. Last question, Pandora
stat of the Day song makes me die laughing everything
hear it when she does the piano song version. Please
tell me you guys are gonna be streaming that when
it happens.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh, yes, you'll be able to see it. It'll be
on Peacock. We're hoping Pandora will join us now. She
lives outside of Reno, and you know she has an
open invitation to come in and if she can't join
us for the show, then maybe after the show. I
want to get a piano and just have Pandora laying
across the top of the piano and singing stat of
(31:56):
the day.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Hey, we love your statu the day, stat of the data,
the j oh damn give us stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
All right, that's Pandora. Uh favorite tennis player I would
say McEnroe. I mean he was just he was at
the peak of his powers. Everybody loved you know, you
were seeing something great. But I got to see Connor's
and Sampress in borg uh In, so many great great
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tennis But I von Lendel, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 17 (32:35):
Would tennis be more popular here if we had better
American players or if the best players were American?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Sure?
Speaker 17 (32:41):
Yeah, which just seems like the biggest stars like McEnroe
and those guys, well, when.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You had Sampress and Agacy Connors, McEnroe, I mean, there
are just so many great players. Andy Roddick's our last
he was our last great hope, but you know, and
he took some of the great players toe to toe.
I don't have a brew pub. Paul could probably find
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one in Cincinnati.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
The only Cincinnati beer I know and have tried is Rheingeist,
which is old school, great looking cans, and I know
they have a brewery and nice cans.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, so I think I answered all your questions. Yes,
I don't have a brew pub or anything like that
in Cincinnati, but I think Cincinnati is home to probably
the best potato chips I've ever had in my whole life.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Grip, Grippas, Rippos, something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
There's like grip some kind of like I don't know
if they're barbecue or whatever, but one time I was
driving through Ohio and in the Cincinnati area, I stopped
and got the best I think it's called Grippo's, the
best bag of potato chips I've ever had in my
whole life.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, people talk about that.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Yeah, co Firm, Grippo Potato Chip Company.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Oh man, they are just electric. Yeah. There's also an
awesome ice cream place. It might be in Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
People come from all over for this ice cream. I'm
not an ice cream person, but people have talked about it. Yeah,
PAULI I mentioned this before to you. My sister went
to Miami of Ohio and we were.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
That's just where Jenny BATCHI was.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yes, it all works together.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
We went to the Montgomery in for ribs and they
live up to the billing. It was outside of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
People come in from the rib people order the ribs
outside of Cincinnati. Do you see the famous ice cream
and uh the date? No hunting and checking. Yeah, but
I'm not an ice cream Even though my wife runs
an ice cream place. She's always going, hey, try this,
I go, what is it? She goes, just try it.
It's it's fig and it's mint and it's all right,
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tastes great, honey, Yes, Pauline, I.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Got a couple Ritterers frozen custard. No, that's Kettering, Greaters ice.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Raiders, Greaters g R A E T E R s. Yeah,
Greaters probably German.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yes, that's another one of those people come from all
over for that one. Okay, how about we take a
break last, go for phone calls, what we learn, what's
in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Davante Adams the Rams wide receiver who joined us in
Lake Tahoe. He was a great interview. He was on
the Pivot podcast and he was asked about Travis Hunter
playing both offense and defense.
Speaker 18 (35:31):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level, and then go in there.
It's hard enough to go cover a punt and then
and then be on you know, one side, you know,
and I didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I haven't done it.
Speaker 18 (35:42):
I'm not acting like I'm going to kickoff for a punt.
But I can see the dudes, and I know, you
know you you you got your guys, and you see
the yardage of my yardage over the over the game
versus somebody that starts on offense and then plays special
teams as well, Like, that's just a.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Lot of mileage, man, And I don't know how long.
Speaker 18 (35:57):
I'm not even concerned so much if he can do
it over the course of a game or a season.
Speaker 12 (36:02):
It's more like how long is.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
His career going to be?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
DeVante Adams of the Rams right now, Travis Hunter listed
as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver. We
just had a caller talk about the best NFL throwback
uniforms and he was citing the Tampa Bay Creamsicle uniforms,
and I just cautioned people that when that happened, when
Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay was terrible back then that
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I think you kind of partnered. Hey, that's a terrible team.
So those are terrible uniforms. How often do you have
a terrible team with great uniforms, Marvin, you are the
uniform police here. Terrible team, but a great uniform.
Speaker 12 (36:45):
In my entire adult life, the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
The Raiders are terrible uniforms, all all bad team.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, but they were great before. So they won super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm talking about it team that doesn't have you know,
a history of Boy, they were a winning frame. Tampa
Bay was a that was a you know, a new team,
new expansion team, and they were terrible and then you
had the uniforms that went with them. Yeah, Pauline, I would.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
Say the Patriots in the late seventies and early eighties
had great uniforms with the Patriots snapping on the side.
And then they changed and they got better as a franchise.
But they were cool uniforms, not great teams.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, Seton, we're saying a crap team, but good uniforms. Yeah.
Probably a Michigan.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
What are you doing?
Speaker 12 (37:39):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Dang out of nowhere? I guess, I guess Michigan.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
How about the Seahawks when they first started.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Yeah, weren't great, but the uniforms were fun.
Speaker 12 (37:55):
They looked cool.
Speaker 17 (37:56):
Yes, Marvin one of my favorites as a kid, even
though they were awful. The l A Rams, the Jerome
Bettish years, I love those uniforms.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Were they awful? I don't remember the.
Speaker 17 (38:08):
Rams when I was a kid, Ladist generational. They were
always terrible.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, yeah, I forget how old you are. You're young
to certain people, Yeah you are. No, you're young in
this room.
Speaker 12 (38:21):
You mean, but playing pick up basketball?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Give me the ball, they call you.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
I was like, gosh, I am literally that guy. Okay,
og uh.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Nate and Colorado. What's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (38:34):
Nate, good morning, gentlemen, and eight see hey your last interview,
he brought up the fact that ESPN purchased the rights
to the Red Zone broadcast.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
I didn't realize that was something that was separate, but
it got me. My first thought was, Okay, ESPN just
bought this. Did you envision a red Zone type program
since they have the PNP talent for the NBA Kenny
Shack Irtie charls on it like a red Zone type
of broadcast. Did you see that coming down? The road.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
No, not for them, because I think you want content.
I think you want the discussion that you have with
the red zone. You don't get that kind of come
You know, it's very quick. You're going to this and
then you're coming back. You're going to someplace else. You
want to see Charles in Shaq, Kenny Ernie. You want
them to be able to have a discussion. How about
this day in sports history Paul.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Eighteen ninety Cy Young the pitcher got his first major
league victory. He got five hundred and eleven in his career,
and of course he never won the Cy Young embarrassing
by him Satchel Page at forty six in nineteen fifty two,
oldest picture to complete a Major League baseball game. How
about this day in movie history?
Speaker 12 (39:44):
Good?
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Great, All Time Great?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Or eh?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
Collateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox, released in two
thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
You guys are high on it. I'm not. Oh that's
a good movie. No, Tom's hair looks terrible.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
It's unique.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I watched a few good Men last night. Damn to me,
More is awesome. She's great in the role.
Speaker 12 (40:07):
I would have joined the military.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I would have too. I want I want to be
on her wall.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You do.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
She doesn't need me on that wall. And I thought
I thought Jack Nicholson was great too in his role.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
You don't like Collateral?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
No, you should watch it two more times. I don't
think I've ever seen Collateral. Tom's got I guess gray hair.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Jamie Fox really good?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Okay, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 10 (40:36):
We're gonna get more comments about this?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Todd?
Speaker 17 (40:39):
Would you learn Andy Staples has joined All the Day
that's in agree to take a pie to the face
if Notre Dame goes undefeated?
Speaker 12 (40:45):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Seat And what'd you learn today? I learned you don't
love Collateral because of Tom Cruise's hair. I didn't, among
other things, Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 12 (40:54):
Fritzy calls his wife Red peng Jan corrected us a
lot of time.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Well, she's a school teacher, Oh, Paul, would you.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
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Truly, we'll speak with you tomorrow
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ets
Dan Patrick Show. More of your phone calls coming up,
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That's our streaming partner, and we say good morning to
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to three DP. Show operator Tyler is sitting by a
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few things NFL wise, the merger between the mothership, NFL
Network and the NFL ten percent stake in ESPN. Now,
it's probably going to have to wait until twenty twenty six.
I'm just looking at some of the details, and these
negotiations have lasted for about four years, but they finally
(00:47):
have figured out how they can do this. The deal
is subject to regulatory approval. If approved, it likely won't
take effect until at least twenty twenty six. As part
of the deal, ESPN will get an additional three NFL
games per season they were air on NFL network partnership,
and you have, you know, three entities here, NFL Network,
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the mothership, and NFL getting a ten percent ownership stake
in ESPN. I think from what I'm looking at, we'll
find out a little bit more here later on in
the hour, but this might help with the distribution around
the world, having the partnership with the SPN. I'm just
(01:32):
curious about what it means for you, the consumer. Likely,
what's this costing you? That's that's really all I care about,
you know, is the red zone going to cost more?
Springing Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host is
new book, Big Shield, comes out August nineteenth. That's about
the intersection of gambling, the mob, and pro football. You
(01:53):
can pre order the ebook for just ninety nine cents
on Amazon. What does this deal mean? Let's start with
the consumer. Why would they care about this merger?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I don't know that the consumer was at the
front of the mind for either of the party get
involved in this. Frankly, the NFL has had essentially a
struggling media property in NFL Network. It's never become what
they thought it was going to be. They created Thursday
Night Football as a way to prop up NFL Network.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It debuted in two.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Thousand and six as a back half of the season
Thursday Night package to give NFL Network something that would
make cable providers want it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It still never really.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Took off, and they've been trying for years to unload it. Dan,
I mean like ten years they've been trying to get
rid of this, and they've tied it different things. NBC
was in the conversation at one point, and now they
get ten percent equity in ESPN for these failing properties.
And yeah, I don't know that the consumer was the
(02:59):
main reason for this. And now the question becomes, how
do we make this seamless for the consumer? You know,
for example, ESPN did a deal as part of this
to continue to televise the draft for the next five years. Well,
when you turn on NFL network for the draft, are
you going to see Rich Eisen?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now are you gonna see Mike Greenberg? Who's it going
to be?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And I think it's important for them to keep things
normal from the perspective of the consumer, because I think
most people are afraid number one, things are going to
change and number two, we're gonna get screwed. I just
think that's the natural reaction to this news that these
two behemoths have come together.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
One of the first things that came to mind is
what if Fox has a problem with their deal or
the NFL says to Fox here, take it, take it
or leave it. We'll have some like I don't know
if there's gonna be well, the NFL is in bed
with ESPN, and what's that mean for the other TV partners?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We will see and look, you give the league ten
percent equity in your company, and maybe the value isn't
there to support it, but you know what's not going
to happen. You're not gonna lose Monday Night Football. You're
not gonna lose your spot in the Super Bowl rotation.
You are now a permanent partner of the NFL at
a time when all the tech companies are hovering and
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the TV deals are up after twenty twenty nine, technically
twenty thirty three, but the league has the ability to
pull the plug, and obviously they will. ESPN doesn't have
to worry about being left out in the cold and
Dan the other thing this does, and this really needs
to be fleshed out by the union. Instead of taking
money for these properties, taking equity. That may screw the
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players because the players don't share equity with the league.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
The players share money with the league.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So you're offloading more games to ESPN and they're not
paying X one hundred million for them.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They're giving you equity all under.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
The CBA that equity may be exclusive to ownership, and
until equity turns into money, players don't get a penny.
That's something the new interim executive director of the union
had better put at the top of his to do
list to figure out, how are we possibly getting screwed
by this.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You might be the first person, maybe the only person
who pointed this out, but Jerry Jones talking to Micah
Parsons without representation in there is not allowable. But Jerry
wants the conversation to be allowable, and that they had
a deal back in March. So what is the rule
of an owner talking directly to a player about a contract?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, you really couldn't make this up. The Jerry Jones
and Chris Simms made this point earlier day on PFT Live.
Certain owners will invoke any and all rules that help them. Well,
that's the rule, Hey, the rules of the rules contracts contracts.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
CBA says we can do this.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But as to the stuff that gets in the way
of what we're trying to do, forget about the rules.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And it's clear in the CBA.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
If there is a verbal agreement that has reached between
a player and a team. It must be reduced to
writing as soon as practical, the idea that they did
a handshake deal back in March.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And I think you know, if there was a flow.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Chart, Dan, step one would be, will Micah accept the
deal that he supposedly agreed to in March, which surely
is far less than whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He wants now? And if he won't, I think what
Jerry's trying to.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Do is get Mica to play for twenty four million
this year and they're kick it all the next year.
But you're right under the CBA, you can't do this.
You can't negotiate directly with the players. The agent is
the exclusive representative certified by the union to act as
the union in the dealings between player and team, and
the NFL hasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Done anything about it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The union hasn't done anything about it. So hey, if
I'm Jerry Jones and they're not gonna tell me I
can't do it, what the hell I'll keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
How's this play out?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I really do think that Jim wants Micah to either
take the deal that they had a handshake on in
March or play for twenty four million this year and
kick it to next year.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Because the key is this.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Dan, the longer the team can keep the injury risk
on the player, the more the team is protected against
something happening to the player that would keep him from
ever playing again, or playing as well as he used to.
Career ending or career limiting. The risk is on the player,
not on us, and for the team that's dealing with
a bunch of different players. The more times you can
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keep that risk on the players, the better off you
are over the long haul. And we've seen that they
kick the can with Dak Prescott. You know, they kicked
the can until somebody says enough. That's why I still
think he should have held out. If he'd have held out,
they would eventually have caved like they did for Ceedee
Lamb last year, like they did for Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
They're going to try to I think, if he won't
take the deal that he supposedly agreed to in March,
they're going to try to kick this to next year.
And I know twenty four million sounds like a lot
of money, but when the market's forty one and Mike
should be getting forty five, yeah, you don't want to
play this year for twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Why doesn't somebody say to Jerry Jones, you know, Jerry,
you can't negotiate a contract with a player.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And well, because for whatever reason, nobody is willing to
tell Jerry Jones he can't do it, and the union
hasn't filed a grievance.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It would be very easy to do.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
If this new interim executive director wants to make a splash.
What he could do, what David White could do, immediately
file a grievance against the Cowboys and Jerry Jones for
dealing directly with players when they should be dealing with
the agent you want, you want to try to balance
out the relationship a little bit, stand up and fight
for your players.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live, co host
the show that preceeds hours on Peacock. In his next book,
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of nowhere, the NFL comes out with no more smelling salts?
(09:01):
Where's this been?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Or you know what took so long?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's been sixteen years since they had their concussion epiphany.
The first time I ever became aware of smelling salts,
it was in a movie or a TV show where
a boxer gott knocked senseless and they stuck it under
his nose to wake him up. And now they're finally like, oh,
it could mask the symptoms of a concussion. Yeah, of
course it can. That's why they use them. And how
many years have we seen like the images of a
guy on the sidelines, not because he's taken a blow
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to the head, but just it kind of gets them going,
Like it's always been a weird look for the NFL,
And now all of a sudden they realize probably not
a good idea to supply these, and they haven't banned them.
You can bring your own, I assume, bring your own
smelling salts, stick them in your sock, and if you
need a little kick before the game, so be it.
But it's always been a strange thing to me, the
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huffing of ammonia at a time when they're ultra sensitive
to concussions, where the smelling salts are always the thing
that they use to wake a guy up who's taking
a blow to the head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, so they're taking the liability away from the teams.
Now it's on you. If you want to use smelling salts,
you can. We just we're not taking any ownership.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
We're not supplying them.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Now they'd have to negotiate with the union. See that's
the thing, and this gets back to collective bargaining. The
league never wants to have to give anything up just
because currently the players are allowed to bring their own
smelling salts, they're not banned from using them. So they
have to sit down and give up a little of this,
give up a little of that. Maybe do a handshake
deal with Jerry Jones in the room, and the next
thing you know, the players are banned from using them
at all. But yes, this is a liability thing, Dan,
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we can't get sued. We can't get in trouble for
supplying these to somebody who has a concussion and they
take the hit of it, and they go back in
and play and they get a second concussion and they
have a serious injury as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
If I'm a Rams fan and I'm listening watching concerned
about Matthew Stafford, what would you tell the Rams fan
today about this situation?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I would say that for now, you should not be concerned.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I believe, and I'm told he'll be back on the
field later this week. Now, I don't know where that means.
He's going to be fully participating in practice. Would be
working out on the field of a month to get
ready for week one. And Matthew Stafford I said this
earlier day. If he wrote an autobiography, the chapter on
all the injuries that he's had in his career would
be the longest chapter in any book that's ever been written.
(11:25):
He's had injuries we know about, He's had injuries we
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He just sucks it up and he keeps going.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think they have deliberately given him time to let
the back settle down. Anybody that's ever had a back
problem knows it operates on its own timetable and it
needs a certain period of time to get back to normal,
and they wanted to, I believe, let it get to
normal and give it even more time before they put
him out there, because they don't want this to keep
coming up throughout the course.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
To the season.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Troy Aikman has said, Hey, people think I retired because
of concussions. I retired because of back problems, and you
think of a way that quarterbacks move and the twisting
and the torking.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
They're just giving him extra time. I think it'll be
good to go.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Are the Browns trying to win this year?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I think that they're trying to do Dan.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's a twist on the plot of Major League Their
fans are upset that they're moving out of downtown Cleveland, right,
so if they are really really bad, the fans won't
be as upset that they're moving to suburban Brook Park
when they build their new stadium. It really is ridiculous
to me, and this is what happens when you prioritize
strategizing and analytics over building a football team. You don't
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draft Shade or Sanders in round five when you've taken
Dylan Gabriel in round three, you don't obviously give up
three first round picks plus and a two hundred and
thirty million dollars fully guaranteed contract in Shaan Watson. It's
like every decision point the Browns have in front of
them over the past ten years, they've gone the wrong
way and here's where they are.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
So, yeah, this is gonna be It just feels like
it's going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
To be a disaster for the Browns, and I feel
bad for Browns fans. They deserve so much better than
what they've gotten. And it all goes back to ownership.
It all starts there, and what they've gotten under Jimmy
Haslam has been unacceptable.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
What does Deshaun Watson do every day.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, he is working his way back Dan to full health.
And that is where this messy quarterback situation gets even worse.
When he shows up with the piece of paper that
says you're good to go. They got a decision to make.
They either got to put him on the fifty three
man roster with however many other quarterbacks they're going to
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carry into the season, or they have to release him
and Dan.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
If they release him, they take.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
A one hundred and thirty million dollars cap charge next
year for his contract.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
If they release him right now.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So he may be on the roster, we may have
a fight under the CBA where the player says I'm
healthy and the team says, no, you're not, and they
have a grievance where the doctors fight it out to
prove whether or not Deshaun Watson's healthy and if he wins.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
They've either got to put him on the roster or
they have to cut him. That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And they're not going to cut him because they're not
going to take that one hundred and thirty one million
dollar cap charge next year.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Does Deshaun Watson want to play football game?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think he looked, and you know, I think where
the worm may have turned for him, because you know,
between the rustiness and the injuries and the off field issues,
I think it really did affect him as a human being.
How could it not all those different things. And look,
I'm not excusing it direct result of his own alleged misbehavior,
but when the owner of the team comes out and
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says in March Man, we really took a swing and
a miss on.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That one, that's kind of a middle finger to Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
So now he's got a purpose, he's got a reason,
he's got he's got an apollo creed for his Rocky
bow Bull to try to make this a comeback story.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And I'm sure he'd love to stick it to Jimmy
Haslam and put the Browns in the position where they've
got to activate him and put him back on the roster.
I think the guy fully intends to get healthy and
come back and try to be the guy that he
was that made the Browns give up all that stuff
to get him.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Can Justin Tucker play again?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, he's going to have to serve the ten game suspension.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But you know, Dan, the reality is this, he dipped
last year from a performance standpoint.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Now if he can convince a.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Team that he can show up and kick like he
used to, then you get into the question of do
we want to take and this look, I hate to
be the cynical, but this is the way it works.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
What's the pr hit. What kind of criticism are we
going to take if we bring in Justin Tucker? How
much better is he going to make us?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Are we better off just getting a guy no one
knows to be our kicker? That's the analysis of team's
going to have to make.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Good to talk to you. Thank you again, Mike, see
you about that. It's Mike Florio fighting a good fight.
Pro Football Talk Live co host NBC Football Night in America.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, the Justin.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Tucker, you know, the combination of everything that happened off
the field and on the field, he wasn't good or
wasn't up to his Hall of Fame standards made it
easy for the Ravens to go.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
We can say goodbye to.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You, but if this is three years ago, then all
of a sudden you have to weigh the It's just
like when Michael Vick came out of prison and he
went to the Eagles. All Right, there's going to be
a pr hit. How long is it going to last?
Is it worth it?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Ray Rice? Ray Rice couldn't overcome that. But he was
a little bit older as a running back, and we
couldn't overcome that. We see this all the time. It's
you know, what are you accused of? And how good
are you? It's kind of a you know, this scale
balancing that you have with some teams like you know,
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and I always love when the owner or the GM
or the coach, everybody deserves a second chance. Okay, you'll
go get him, all right, We'll take a break. More
on the ESPN, NFL, NFL network merger, have that for
you coming up.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
More phone calls coming up eight seven to seven, three
DP show. Mike McCarthy, Front office sports senior media reporter
and tuned in columnists joining us on the program. Mike,
thanks for joining us. What did ESPN buy from NFL Network?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
I think they bought themselves an insurance policy, Dan. I
think when you look at the future and you see
streamers like Apple coming in, it's going to be a
lot harder for NFL to get rid of ESPN or
take away their Monday Night package if they're actual equity
partners together. So I think that's one thing. I think
number two they bought a huge selling point for their
(18:29):
new direct to consumer platform, red Zone, NFL Network, NFL programming,
this is the beachfront property that we all want. So
I think those are the two big things.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Anybody else consider this move buying NFL network.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yeah, they talked to a lot of people, and only ESPN,
you know, came up and stepped up to the table.
And I think there's going to be a lot of
grousing Dan amongst the other media partners. Is ESPN going
to get favored nation treatment? Are they going to get
a better game schedule? Are they gonna get more Super Bowls?
But you know, I think the NFL's answer to that
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will be tough. You had your chance and just like
the NFL TV partners passed on Thursday Night Football and
it ended up on Amazon, they had their chance and
they didn't go for it.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Does Fox have a gripe about this? Does NBC have
a gripe? Will they?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
As you said, it feels like the NFL is going
to give preferential treatment to ESPN, and you know, as
a result of this deal, I.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Think they will have a gripe. I think there's going
to be grumbling. I think there's gonna be some you know,
working of the referees as it were then, you know,
to trying to make sure everybody gets favored nation status.
But in the end of the NFL doesn't care. The
NFL makes up the rules and they play by their
own rules, and you know, if they don't like it,
they can go pound sand.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So in three years from now, Stephen A. Smith is
handing out the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Well, actually I was hoping you would do it then.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm not going back to the Mothership, but you know,
maybe rich Eisen can, because they it would be awesome
if Chris Berman got to hand out a super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
And that was one of my favorite stories recently was
ESPN extending Boomer through his fiftieth year at the Mothership
and making sure he's part of the super Bowl. You know,
as you know Dan, you know, ESPN has wanted the
Super Bowl since its founding. They've got a countdown clock
there on Bristol, you know, ticking away the time until
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twenty twenty seven. So it's gonna be big for that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I remember when I was up there, what was at
the forty fifth anniversary, and I was talking to Jimmy Pataro,
and I said, don't let Chris Berman disappear. Don't let
him disappear. The network owes him. Make sure you keep
him on primetime. And you know what he did. He said,
(20:57):
you know, I really appreciate you tell me that. I said,
this is what Chris lives for. This is important to him,
and I truly mean that. You know what he's meant.
He's the most important person in the history of ESPN
because of what he's done for that place and continues
to do it. So if he got a chance to
hand out the Super Bowl Trophy, the only problem is
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they would have to tell Chris, you got to speed up,
though you can't meet you know, spending a lot of
time at you know, time is money, get the trophy,
do your interviews, and then send it back up to
the booth.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
That's right, that's right. He's got to get it. He's
got to get it together to do it fast. But
I mean, you're right. I mean, NFL Prime Time was
so influential back in the day for the Internet and
all the rest of it. That's how we got our highlights,
you know, that's how we checked that our fantasy football
players and we lived and died by that show.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Talking to Mike McCarthy, it's front office sports senior media reporter,
I brought up the conflict of interest with the Mothership
and the NFL.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't know if it matters.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know that they own ten percent of ESPN now,
and you know ESPN has been a partner with NFL forever. Anyway,
I mean, this now just becomes official. Is there any
thought to that from ESPN side of this, of the
optics of how this looks?
Speaker 8 (22:17):
You know, I was asking them about it today and
they don't see it as a problem. I mean, ESPN
is already paying two point seven billion dollars a year
for Monday Night football rights, which is far more than
any other media reporter. You know, as a journalist. Does
it concern me? Yes, But I think these issues are
come under the heading of the horses out of the barn.
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You know, we're not going back to the days where
ESPN is going to do playmakers or do something that's
going to tick off Paul Tagloubu or Roger Goodell. They
know that the NFL is where it's at and they
want to stay on the good side of the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
The future of red zone is.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Future of Red Zone is not going to change, Thank you.
Scott Hansen will continue to host The Red Zone, they
will continue to produce the show NFL Network. However, here's
the real wrinkle in this, Dan is, ESPN gets the
rights to the Red Zone brand, so they will in
the future be able to do future red zones for
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other league partners. Now, if I'm a ESPN I'm going
to the NBA right now and saying I want to
do a red zone for the NBA, especially with Amazon
and NBC breathing down my neck this.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Wall, Well, they would have the licensing for red Zone.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
You're saying, that's right, and they would be able to
create a red zone for the NBA, a red zone
for the NHL, possibly a red zone for college football,
and ESPN would own those new rights going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Great work, keep it up, Mike. Great to talk to
you again, Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's Michael McCarthy. He's a front office sports your media reporter.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's interesting, but once again, some of it is kind
of inside TV, and that's where I want to kind
of figure out what it's going to mean to us
the consumer, you know, the cord cutting. You know, that
was a big reason why Mothership was trying to how
do we how do we, you know, ensure ourself that
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we're going to continue to be worth whatever it is.
I think the three years ago twenty six billion dollars
the evaluation was with the Mothership. Now you add this
and it feels like NFL Network or they finally get
a home. ESPN gets more programming and a better relationship
with the league, and the league gets more distribution. It
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feels like it's a win win win until you get
your cable bill and all of a sudden you go,
wait a minute, why am I paying for Scott Hanson here?
Even though I love Scott, but you're going to be
paying for it somehow, some way the direct to consumer.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Over the past fifteen years, ESPN has had a goal
zone goal line system for college football. It's not as
robust and perfect like the NFL because the games aren't
scheduled exactly that way, but they do have a bit
of a cutaway system to watch college football highlights.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
John and Syracuse. Hi John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
Hey Dan, I'm sitting on this for a while.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
I have all the hypothetical band names that you guys
have come up with throughout the years, and there's about
thirty five of them, and I can read them all
real quick, and I'll try not to make it look
like I'm eating my own face, Okay, Ladies and gentlemen.
Spontaneous displays of emotion, The Mellowists, rampant ignorance, the Dead
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Dad's Lights Out, Mary Factory of Sadness, Ornerie Colon, Mumball
and the Pretty Boys, Apache butter Knives, dial sloppiness, mutilated currency,
JD in the straight Shots, minimumkindness, big head syndrome, unpleasantly
stiff league, curated audio, wisdom in silence, absolute fury, occasional vacuum,
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diminishing resumes, the reefer, perfect storm of crap tainted with sewage,
tragedy strewn screwball and dead leg PATCHI fog hate wish,
sustainable goodness, Albania struggles, potentially fraudulent dangling stones, back in shack,
rapid eye movement and tears of pressure.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Thank you, John h.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Aka this year's Bonnarula. I love that, Thank you, John.
The Ornery Colon, that's my favorite one.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I'm not mistaking. They open for gwar.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Ladies and gentlemen, The lead singer of Ornery Colon sayload
to Todd Fritz.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
How's it going everybody?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Thanks for coming out aw in Virginia. Aw, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Oh ay?
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I just wanted to tell you that the second Adam
Saler movie, the.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
Golf Movie, is awesome.
Speaker 14 (27:13):
My wife and I have already watched it twice.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
We think it's better than the first one.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, thank you, aw a lot of great reaction to it.
What I find, you know, kind of fascinating is I
have a couple of neighbors and they're around my age
and one of the guys I see him yesterday. He goes, uh,
saw the movie. Now I know just by that delivery
that you didn't like it. So he goes, hey, saw
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the movie. I said, Frank, it's not a movie for
our demographic. It's probably for your daughter, maybe somebody younger.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And he goes, Okay that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Was He goes, uh uh do they let you keep
the mustache? I go no, no, I had to give back.
Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (28:06):
Good morning, mister Patrick, gentleman A Todd Mark Seaman Lutang
Forever guys stuck at port side. Hey, Marvin, don't let
Dan lie to you. By the way, even us midwestern
white boys wanted aout Charlotte Hornets starter jacket. But speaking
of unis, Tampa Bay just revealed their like awesome nineteen
seventy six throwbacks that white with the creamsicle accident. I
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wanted to know your guys' opinion on the best throwbacks
from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay, but thank you, Corey. But hold on here. Not
everybody was in on the cream sickle. They made fun
of the cream sickle because Tampa wasn't good. If if
you had Patrick Mahomes wear cream sickle, it's going to
look good because it's Patrick Mahomes, or if Josh Allen's
wearing it, if you go back man, history was not
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kind to the creamsickle uniform.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
In fact, the griff artist Arsy, who did all the
work in the fieldhouse there out on the basketball court
in the football field, I had him come in when
Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, and I had him
come in and repaint Brady as a Patriot. And I said, hey,
I want you to do the cream sickle And he said,
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you're going to have to explain that to me. And
I said, here's the picture of the uniform. And if
you're watching on Peacock now, I asked my artist, who
is a wonderful street artist, and Arsy came in and
put Tom Brady in the creamsicle and it looks great
because it's Tom Brady in a creamsickle. That's the big difference.
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Craig in Virginia. Hi, Craig, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16 (29:44):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Dan?
Speaker 16 (29:45):
I love your interview is just like today's three, always
so insightful. I want to add that on your topic
earlier about Presidential Fitness Award, I'm a fifth grade teacher.
I can confirm that the Fitness award is very tough
to get. I'm still trying to get it thirty years later.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (30:01):
But more importantly, it's my wife and I's anniversary. You
guys are must listen in our household, especially when we
are on the road traveling during the summer. I want
to see if we can get a shout out for
my wife and I anniversary. Keep up the great job.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And your wife's name is Abby, Abby? Oh Abby?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
All right? Uh? Good kisser, what.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Craig, congratulations our best to Abba our best good kisser
abs absolutely absolutely Michael and Nashville.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Hi Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 14 (30:56):
How you doing? I got three quick questions for you.
I'll try to do this quickly. Number One, I'm driving
to Cincinnati currently. I know you know the area, so
I was curious for some beer restaurant or brewery suggestions
while my friend gets off work. Two I'm going to
the Cincinnati Open, So I'm curious about your favorite tennis
player that you've ever seen play live since I'll be
seeing Alcaraz in Center tomorrow. And last question, a little
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and a little off top of here. Last question, Pandora
stat of the Day song makes me die laughing everything
hear it when she does the piano song version. Please
tell me you guys are gonna be streaming that when
it happens.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh, yes, you'll be able to see it. It'll be
on Peacock. We're hoping Pandora will join us now. She
lives outside of Reno, and you know she has an
open invitation to come in and if she can't join
us for the show, then maybe after the show. I
want to get a piano and just have Pandora laying
across the top of the piano and singing stat of
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the day.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Hey, we love your statu the day, stat of the data,
the j oh damn give us stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
All right, that's Pandora. Uh favorite tennis player I would
say McEnroe. I mean he was just he was at
the peak of his powers. Everybody loved you know, you
were seeing something great. But I got to see Connor's
and Sampress in borg uh In, so many great great
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tennis But I von Lendel, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 17 (32:35):
Would tennis be more popular here if we had better
American players or if the best players were American?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Sure?
Speaker 17 (32:41):
Yeah, which just seems like the biggest stars like McEnroe
and those guys, well, when.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You had Sampress and Agacy Connors, McEnroe, I mean, there
are just so many great players. Andy Roddick's our last
he was our last great hope, but you know, and
he took some of the great players toe to toe.
I don't have a brew pub. Paul could probably find
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one in Cincinnati.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
The only Cincinnati beer I know and have tried is Rheingeist,
which is old school, great looking cans, and I know
they have a brewery and nice cans.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, so I think I answered all your questions. Yes,
I don't have a brew pub or anything like that
in Cincinnati, but I think Cincinnati is home to probably
the best potato chips I've ever had in my whole life.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Grip, Grippas, Rippos, something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
There's like grip some kind of like I don't know
if they're barbecue or whatever, but one time I was
driving through Ohio and in the Cincinnati area, I stopped
and got the best I think it's called Grippo's, the
best bag of potato chips I've ever had in my
whole life.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, people talk about that.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Yeah, co Firm, Grippo Potato Chip Company.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Oh man, they are just electric. Yeah. There's also an
awesome ice cream place. It might be in Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
People come from all over for this ice cream. I'm
not an ice cream person, but people have talked about it. Yeah,
PAULI I mentioned this before to you. My sister went
to Miami of Ohio and we were.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
That's just where Jenny BATCHI was.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yes, it all works together.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
We went to the Montgomery in for ribs and they
live up to the billing. It was outside of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
People come in from the rib people order the ribs
outside of Cincinnati. Do you see the famous ice cream
and uh the date? No hunting and checking. Yeah, but
I'm not an ice cream Even though my wife runs
an ice cream place. She's always going, hey, try this,
I go, what is it? She goes, just try it.
It's it's fig and it's mint and it's all right,
(34:46):
tastes great, honey, Yes, Pauline, I.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Got a couple Ritterers frozen custard. No, that's Kettering, Greaters ice.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Raiders, Greaters g R A E T E R s. Yeah,
Greaters probably German.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yes, that's another one of those people come from all
over for that one. Okay, how about we take a
break last, go for phone calls, what we learn, what's
in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Davante Adams the Rams wide receiver who joined us in
Lake Tahoe. He was a great interview. He was on
the Pivot podcast and he was asked about Travis Hunter
playing both offense and defense.
Speaker 18 (35:31):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level, and then go in there.
It's hard enough to go cover a punt and then
and then be on you know, one side, you know,
and I didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I haven't done it.
Speaker 18 (35:42):
I'm not acting like I'm going to kickoff for a punt.
But I can see the dudes, and I know, you
know you you you got your guys, and you see
the yardage of my yardage over the over the game
versus somebody that starts on offense and then plays special
teams as well, Like, that's just a.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Lot of mileage, man, And I don't know how long.
Speaker 18 (35:57):
I'm not even concerned so much if he can do
it over the course of a game or a season.
Speaker 12 (36:02):
It's more like how long is.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
His career going to be?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
DeVante Adams of the Rams right now, Travis Hunter listed
as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver. We
just had a caller talk about the best NFL throwback
uniforms and he was citing the Tampa Bay Creamsicle uniforms,
and I just cautioned people that when that happened, when
Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay was terrible back then that
(36:27):
I think you kind of partnered. Hey, that's a terrible team.
So those are terrible uniforms. How often do you have
a terrible team with great uniforms, Marvin, you are the
uniform police here. Terrible team, but a great uniform.
Speaker 12 (36:45):
In my entire adult life, the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
The Raiders are terrible uniforms, all all bad team.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, but they were great before. So they won super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'm talking about it team that doesn't have you know,
a history of Boy, they were a winning frame. Tampa
Bay was a that was a you know, a new team,
new expansion team, and they were terrible and then you
had the uniforms that went with them. Yeah, Pauline, I would.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
Say the Patriots in the late seventies and early eighties
had great uniforms with the Patriots snapping on the side.
And then they changed and they got better as a franchise.
But they were cool uniforms, not great teams.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, Seton, we're saying a crap team, but good uniforms. Yeah.
Probably a Michigan.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
What are you doing?
Speaker 12 (37:39):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Dang out of nowhere? I guess, I guess Michigan.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
How about the Seahawks when they first started.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Yeah, weren't great, but the uniforms were fun.
Speaker 12 (37:55):
They looked cool.
Speaker 17 (37:56):
Yes, Marvin one of my favorites as a kid, even
though they were awful. The l A Rams, the Jerome
Bettish years, I love those uniforms.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Were they awful? I don't remember the.
Speaker 17 (38:08):
Rams when I was a kid, Ladist generational. They were
always terrible.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, yeah, I forget how old you are. You're young
to certain people, Yeah you are. No, you're young in
this room.
Speaker 12 (38:21):
You mean, but playing pick up basketball?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Give me the ball, they call you.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
I was like, gosh, I am literally that guy. Okay,
og uh.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Nate and Colorado. What's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (38:34):
Nate, good morning, gentlemen, and eight see hey your last interview,
he brought up the fact that ESPN purchased the rights
to the Red Zone broadcast.
Speaker 9 (38:47):
I didn't realize that was something that was separate, but
it got me. My first thought was, Okay, ESPN just
bought this. Did you envision a red Zone type program
since they have the PNP talent for the NBA Kenny
Shack Irtie charls on it like a red Zone type
of broadcast. Did you see that coming down? The road.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
No, not for them, because I think you want content.
I think you want the discussion that you have with
the red zone. You don't get that kind of come
You know, it's very quick. You're going to this and
then you're coming back. You're going to someplace else. You
want to see Charles in Shaq, Kenny Ernie. You want
them to be able to have a discussion. How about
this day in sports history Paul.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Eighteen ninety Cy Young the pitcher got his first major
league victory. He got five hundred and eleven in his career,
and of course he never won the Cy Young embarrassing
by him Satchel Page at forty six in nineteen fifty two,
oldest picture to complete a Major League baseball game. How
about this day in movie history?
Speaker 12 (39:44):
Good?
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Great, All Time Great?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Or eh?
Speaker 10 (39:48):
Collateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox, released in two
thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
You guys are high on it. I'm not. Oh that's
a good movie. No, Tom's hair looks terrible.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
It's unique.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I watched a few good Men last night. Damn to me,
More is awesome. She's great in the role.
Speaker 12 (40:07):
I would have joined the military.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I would have too. I want I want to be
on her wall.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You do.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
She doesn't need me on that wall. And I thought
I thought Jack Nicholson was great too in his role.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
You don't like Collateral?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
No, you should watch it two more times. I don't
think I've ever seen Collateral. Tom's got I guess gray hair.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Jamie Fox really good?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Okay, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 10 (40:36):
We're gonna get more comments about this?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Todd?
Speaker 17 (40:39):
Would you learn Andy Staples has joined All the Day
that's in agree to take a pie to the face
if Notre Dame goes undefeated?
Speaker 12 (40:45):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Seat And what'd you learn today? I learned you don't
love Collateral because of Tom Cruise's hair. I didn't, among
other things, Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 12 (40:54):
Fritzy calls his wife Red peng Jan corrected us a
lot of time.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Well, she's a school teacher, Oh, Paul, would you.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
Learn collateral homework assignment.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
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Speaker 5 (41:24):
Truly, we'll speak with you tomorrow
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