May 22, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan talks about professional athletes getting appearance fees that resemble N.I.L. money in college sports. And he talks to NFL insider Mike Florio about NFL teams using that N.I.L.-type money to circumvent the salary cap.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How do you come back from that one? Pacers give
it Away in the garden last night? Final hour on
this Wednesday, Come on in, Gang's all here, ready to go.
We will talk some football a little bit later on
this hour. I've said before, keeping on the Justin Jefferson
situation with the Vikings Kirk Cousins now in Atlanta, and
you're probably going to have a rookie quarterback in JJ McCarthy.
(00:27):
I think they were offering him thirty million dollars a year.
But what's the hold up? Mike Florio from Pro Football
Talk will stop by. Also, Mike brought this up. Let's
say a local business man, let's say Kansas City, says, hey,
I'm going to make sure we keep this player. I'm
willing to give ten million dollars to this player. So
(00:50):
it's not involved with the team, the salary cap. It's
like name, image and likeness. You're going to hire somebody,
and you could maybe circumvent the south cap and say,
all right, they can offer you this, We're going to
offer you that, and we have this businessman who's going
to give you ten million dollars and he needs you
to do a couple appearances at his car dealership or
(01:13):
whatever it might be. Might be a billionaire and says
I got this money. Like, are we going to get
to the point where you know? The Las Vegas Aces.
So the WNBA, their team, the defending champs, two time
defending champs. They're being paid by the city of Las Vegas. Yes, Poland.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So the deal that was announced a couple of days ago,
each player in the Las Vegas Aces will get one
hundred thousand dollars from the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors
Authority and they have to do certain things promotional appearances,
et cetera, et cetera. But immediately after, the NWNBA is
looking into this deal to see if it violates a
salary cap. How that they said, because the Tourism Board
(01:53):
did not negotiate the payments with the franchise directly and
work with each player's agent, they can't provide had any
rule that was specifically broken. But the WNBA is looking
into it.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. Well, I want to ask Florio, is name, image
and likeness coming to the NFL or NBA or other sports,
Because if you're a businessman, you got money you're not
part of ownership, but you want to help your team
in your town. Can you do that? Is there a
law against doing that? Are we going to get to
(02:25):
the point where name, image, and likeness now becomes part
of the professional ranks? All right? Eight seven to seven
three DP Show email Addressdpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or
listening on our radio affiliates. This is how you lose
it the game. Even though you were the better team.
The Pacers had eight more assists, they had seventeen more
(02:48):
points off the bench. They were a better team last night,
but they had twenty one turnovers, including some of those
very costly towards the end of regulation and also in overtime.
You had your opportunity. They made simple mistakes. Can't get
the ball in all timeout. Advance the ball now, if
(03:08):
you go to half court, now I can use the
front court and the back court to get the ball in.
They're going to foul you. Then it's a free throw game,
and then you win that game. Tyrese Haliburton had the
ball go off his leg. Jalen Brown's in the corner.
You have to guard the three. I know you got
to worry about Tatum and you got to worry about
(03:29):
Jalen Brown. Anybody who's at the three point line. I
don't worry about a two. I worry about a three.
And Siakam gets over there late and then decides not
to foul because he was worried. Maybe the continuation, maybe
Jalen Brown would have a four point play, but they
were told to foul. They knew they had a timeout. Like,
(03:49):
these are things in the moment that you feel like, well,
of course they're professionals. Well, how many have been there before?
Get caught up in the moment, Try to get them
all in turnover. Hey, make sure we got a foul
to give. It's okay, don't let him get a three
off and then you back away. He hits the three. Now,
(04:10):
I'm gonna give credit to Jalen Brown. That's a big
time shot there. But this is this is a team
loss by the Piecers, overall team loss. Rick Carlisle can say, hey,
I'm a fall my sword here, and that's what you
want your coach to do. He'll take blame, should take blame.
Tyrese Haliburton, I mean, this is a team effort there,
(04:30):
but Boston gets out and barely. Our poll question earlier
was do you think this series now goes five or seven?
Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer former Pacers, said he
probably go five. I'd probably go five as well. I'm
hoping for seven, but I'd probably go five. You know,
I don't know. This is one of those it's it's
(04:52):
a loss, but it feels like it's more than a
loss because you had a win. Now they have to
win five games because they won this game, but that
doesn't count. Now they got to win four more. That'd
be pretty tough selecting. Yes, marvh.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
This almost kind of feels like Game one of the
twenty eighteen finals where JR. Smith called the time out
when he forgot the time and score, and you're playing
in overtime, and probably in overtime the entire time, you're
thinking this game should be get over. We shouldn't even
be playing this game.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, you got the game tonight. It'll be Game
one in Minnesota. Minnesota favored by four and a half
against the Mavericks. So that's fun. You got star power
with Luca and ant Man Panthers at the Rangers Game one.
Mike Flurya will join us coming up here in a
little bit. NFL OTAs are underway. Also, the NFL is
(05:46):
experimenting with the chain gang, so the you know, the yard,
the first down markers, and you know, modern technology of
what they're trying to do. So we'll talk to Florio.
He's got some thoughts here on some of the things
that I've brought up. Phone calls, we'll get to those
coming up in fact. Austin in Minneapolis, Hey Austin, thanks
for holding. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Hey Dan, how's it going.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
First, I'm six, two thirty five that also just had
a baby on March fifteenth. First one, talking a lot
about Minnesota these days. Obviously we all know about the
twenty twenty four timber Wolves, but we've had a couple
other lovable losers.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
You know, I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I haven't seen a championship in my whole life here
in Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
I just wanted you to maybe compare.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
And I know it's NFL to NBA, but when you
think about the on nine Vikings with Brett Farv and
Adrian Peterson, Sidney Rice, the Williams Wall, that ninety eight
team with Moss and Cunningham, Chris Carter Randall, which which
one of those teams may be is the I test.
Maybe you want to rank them, but which one of
those teams do you think had the best chance at
that winning a super Bowl or a championship?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Thank you? Minnesota is kind of underrated in painful sports
moments football for sure, because you go back with the Vikings.
I'd say the ninety nine Vikings says that might be
that might be right there, number one, Yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're like fifteen and one. Yeah, like Randall, Cunningham had
forty nine touchdown passes, though he'd have forty nine, but
he had something create Randy Moss's rookie year and he
lost to the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's one of those where you're gone, they're going to
go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yes, the twenty nineteen Vikings, though, you're going to the
super Bowl that you're going to host.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you're gonna host that one. That okay, is that
a better team? That might be more painful moment, but
it felt like the fifteen and one Vikings, Yeah, it
was a better team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You're completely right that the nineteen team was ten and
six kind of snuck it all.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, boy, that's that's where you're watching in your think,
you're you're already fast forward of thinking about Minnesota gets
to host a Super Bowl and then if oh no,
oh no, yes, Mark.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
In ninety eight, what were the Broncos thinking when they
found out the Vikings lost? Like, Oh, we're not playing
the Vikings, We're playing the Falcons. Oh oh they're they're
licking the chops right now.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, damn.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
At least they weren't up twenty eight three in that one.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wow, here to bring us in?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Are you bring the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
People in? Dale in Kentucky is back?
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Dale? What's on your mind? Well?
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Dan, I've got a little morale booster for you guys.
I've emailed Tyler a one hundred percent Awards certip kids.
He's going to print it out. You write all the guys'
names in it, and they put it on the refrigerator
eating the band eater in the vand taber take it home.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, thank you, thank you. Dale. Yeah, we didn't win
the Sports Emmy last night, but we weren't nominated for
the Sports Emmy. We were invited to watch the Sports Emmys,
not in the building, but we were always We're curious
who was going to win MLB tonight. They ended up
winning the Sports Emmy, and we're really happy for them.
Speaker 11 (09:13):
Yeah sure, yeah, see this doesn't mean spirit and a
different topic, but Jerry and Indy's wondering if the NBA
sends a video of every play that the Pacers and
Rick Carlyle watched for a game.
Speaker 12 (09:26):
One wow, damn soon wow wow, editing together all these highlights,
stuff like that's a bad.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Boy, yeah, and bad coaching decision there, bad play, Maybe
the referees call out Rick Carlile. Dang, That's why I
love this audience. Let's see what else do we have here?
Tim in La, Hi, Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (10:01):
It's actually like ken As, I'm just Ken.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh, I'm sorry, Tyler has Tim here ye, Kennon Barbie,
there you go, all right, Ki, here you go, Danny,
all right, I'm gonna go old school Hall of Fame
Bill Bradley.
Speaker 13 (10:18):
Bill Bradley with the Knicks made one All Star team.
He was obviously fabulous at price did but of course
he won two championships of the Knicks. But I think
he did because of his college career, so that would
support your late in life. But the Hall of Fame,
of the Basketball Hall of Fame. It's a slippery sloper.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I have no problem with Bill Bradley being a
Hall of Famer. He was a starter on two NBA teams.
He was the college basketball player of the Year at Princeton.
He scored like sixty points in a tournament game. I
don't know Rhodes Scholar. I mean he had a pretty
good decorated resume there.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, Paul Magic, Mike Scheschefski, Duke won a couple titles,
like handful of titles right in the nineties and then
decided to be a pro coach and bounced around the
pros and didn't do much and had like three jobs
and didn't work out. He's still going into the Basketball
Hall of Fame. As for his one.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Jerry Tarkanian coached in the NBA. He was a great
college coach. Later's that Latner played fourteen years in the NBA.
You don't accidentally play fourteen years. May not have been great,
he was an All Star once, but you're on the
Dream Team and you're one of the great college basketball
players of all time. And look, I'm not friendly with
Latner outside of when he comes on people think, oh,
(11:38):
what's your agenda. I don't have an agenda. I'm just
saying what I think you know, and this is obvious.
He should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame. That's it.
I mean, we can have topics about other players. I
said Al Horford. I don't know Al Horford, just telling
you he won two titles at Florida, and he won
an NBA title and he's a five time All Star. Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I was fighting you guys for a long time on
Christian Laner, but I'm sorry you guys win because guys
like Vladi Devopo Raja are in the Hall of Fame
because of what they did internationally. Yes, and they were
good NBA players, just like Christian Laetner. And so if
they're in, why not put Christian Lightener Hawk.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
In Phoenix joints us Hi Hawk? What's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (12:21):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Dan at Hawk again to six two fifty three now
drafting a little way. So this is going back to
the Christian Lightner saying, if we're gonna point out Christian Lander,
why not Sean Elliott who was a National Player of
the Year. He was a first round pick, number three overall,
(12:42):
just like Christian Lanner, and he had a an NBA
championship with the Spurs. He also had his number retired
from the Spurs. So I gotta think if Christian Lanner
gets in, which I think he should, Sean Elliott has
to get in. And Sean Elliott at one point told
me playing the pick up game at my own heighths
nice past. So I love the dude, And with that,
(13:03):
I leave you with this suck at all rows.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Ain't easy there.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
It might be a first. I don't know if I
haven't ever had an all row sucket.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You gotta pick her.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You just like we're kind of sensitive right now, the
sports semi thing hawk.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
I mean, actually just feel kind of dead inside about it.
I have no no emotions. Actually really welcome to the club. Yeah,
dead inside. Yeah, it's just doesn't matter. Come on now,
every day it's a super Bowl. Come on for some people.
For me it is for some shows. Come on, come on,
(13:42):
get up, Yeah, let's get up.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, maybe Mike Greenberg could give us a pep talk,
tell us to get up, tell us to get up.
Come on, guys, get up.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
How to lose them?
Speaker 8 (13:55):
You affect that Prescot's COTR coming up next?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Mike Floorio on the important storyline you will hear today.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Now, if Greene was going to give us a pep
talk or say something, he would be Dan Patrick Show. No, no,
it would be Dak Prescott, like the Dan Patrick Show.
Can't win the big one, we'll discuss.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Fair, fair fair, Who is.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The Achilles heel of Aaron Rodgers. No, no, it's the
Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes time.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But Greenie also all likes to say it is what
it is, so we should just move on. It is
what it is, and that's it.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
We weren't nominated, we didn't win, and let's go on
to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Thank you to okay, healthy attitude. It is what it is.
Whatever that means. Never understood that it is what it is, Okay,
nothing more and nothing less. But somebody came up with that,
and then all of a sudden we ran with it.
I just I feel like there's one person who comes
up with all these sayings somewhere in America, in the world,
(14:49):
and like, you know what I'm thinking of doing. After
every sentence that you have, you go right, and then
you know, Dino Raja should be in the Hall of Fame. Right,
Marvin is great at what he does well. No, Marvin
is good at what he does, right, damn yes, Marv.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh that was a nice accurate, but not nice man.
Now you threw me off because you just insulted me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like real bad right right right right? You know what
I'm saying, Hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh, that's what I was gonna say when someone when
someone says you can have your cake and eat it too,
what does that mean?
Speaker 11 (15:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think it goes back to what let them eat cake?
Was that like a queen who said that talking about
the peasants, let them eat cake?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Don't you eat cake? Have your cake and eat it too.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
It's actually you can't have your cake and eat it too?
Is the is the expression?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So people missing it forever?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
You can't still like have a plate of cake and
then eat it too.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
We'll cut you a piece of cake. Just don't eat it.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
We'll put it in front of you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Just gotta look, or you can't cut it. That's true
somebody else.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But then just don't eat it.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Just stare like you're saying you can't have you can't
have both, right, you can't have you can have one
or the other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
One or the other more, But do you want cake.
Although if I get cake, like, what am I doing
with the cake? If I can't eat it? So I
don't want the cake. I want to eat the cake.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah, but that's just not how it's going.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, but that's the way it is. It is what
it is, Okay, Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I have a friend who I talked to periodically, and
he is a writer ri I g h T everything
and every sentence ends with right. And then so I
went to my daughter's soccer game right, and I go,
you don't have to say right, Like I get it.
He goes, what do you mean? I go, you're saying
right after every sentence? I am, yes, oh okay. And
(16:48):
then he'll say a sentence there and go right, and
I'll go, okay, never mind.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
Right, But you actually brought that up to him.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Make them all self conscious about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, I'm trying to help him. Like my kids say,
they can't get through a sentence without saying like like
you know, like now, I go, like, what log what
do you mean? I go, you don't need to use
like all the never mind, it is what it is, Marvin, Okay, Right,
take a break.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
We're the Dallas Cowboys of sports, Emmy's solid twelve and
five team, but can't win in the playoffs. Okay, as
Mo just said that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We'll discuss later on Sports Center. How about we take
a break. Good, All right, We'll talk someboutotball. Yeah, right
back after this.
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
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used to get nominated for Sports Emmys. It is what
it is. We don't even get nominated anymore. It's okay. Oh,
by the way, the next city to be hosting the
NFL Draft is it twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six? PAULI?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
The NFL just announced the city for the twenty twenty
six NFL Draft.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Do you guys want to guess?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Wait? So this was the twenty twenty four draft, right,
So where's the twenty twenty five draft? Great question? Green Bay, Wisconsin?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, okay, so, and now there's twenty twenty six that's
been announced by the NFL. Right, friends at the NFL, Okay,
go around the room. Then we'll bring in Florida, Todd.
Where do you think the NFL draft will be.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An exciting team that's up been coming stronger than ever.
Hugh Town, Texas?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, I ain't also each town.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Seaton O'Connor going to say, uh, Washington, home of your commanders.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, Marvin, I'm going to say the in Buffalo, Buffalo Hot.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's a good shot. I'm going to say, La, our
next guest can drive there.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It's gonna be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Oh, that's awesome. I like that. That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mike Florio Pro Football TNK Live co host and Football
Night in America. Pittsburgh hosting the Draft in a couple
of years, that sounds like it'll be festive.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Well, it's going to get around to every city at
some time or another. This all happened by accident. The
NFL had a scheduling conflict at Radio City Music Hall
ten years ago. They couldn't get in for the draft,
so they said, fine, we'll take it to Chicago. Hey,
we kind of like it. They did it there two
years and they went to Philly. We had that remember
that great scene in Philly. That was the moment. It's
(20:15):
like they found something here at the NFL. Just they
keep doing this. There's no strategy involved. They just kind
of float. It's like, hey, that's pretty good. We'll keep
doing that. So it'll be huge in Pittsburgh. Because it's
not just Pittsburgh. You got West Virginia where I'm from,
Ohio Pennsylvania the whole. It's the cradle of football in
(20:36):
western Pennsylvania. People will flock to Pittsburgh by the tens
of thousands for that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, let me go back to your saying the NFL,
even without strategy. The NFL schedule makers said that they
didn't plan Kansas City playing Buffalo in Buffalo around Taylor
Swift being in Toronto that week, same week that she
would be able to go to the game. Because I said,
prior to this the schedule release, I said, when does
(21:03):
Taylor Swift play Canada? Guys told me. I said, when
is she in Toronto? The guys told me, and I said,
let's see when Kansas City goes to Buffalo. They said,
it's just coincidental, Mike. The NFL would never do something
like that. They can't come out and say they did
do it, because then you're sort of manipulating this a
little bit more than for just football or weather reasons.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
There are no coincidences. And look, I am not a
conspiracy theorist by any stretch. That term has a very
negative connotation nowadays. But when it comes to the schedule,
and I've been all over this as it relates to
the Jets schedule, because the Jets haven't been to the
playoffs since twenty ten. What the hell have they done
to deserve six prime time games the first eleven weeks,
(21:48):
two Thursday night games on short weeks in the first
nine weeks, seven standalone games through week eleven. What have
they done? They have Aaron Rodgers and this notion that,
as Mike North, the VP of broadcast planning said last week,
the Jets kind of OUs one because Roger got hurt
last week? Well, what did the Jets get out of that?
They had a crap year. They worry about competitive balance
with the draft, it's a factor in setting the opponents,
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but when it's time to set the schedules, the NFL
is all about maximum ratings. And even if you were
a bad team last year, even a bad team for
fifteen years, it doesn't matter. If we think we can
get maximum ratings, we're going to put you in these spots,
even if it hurts you to be in these spots.
And so, yeah, if there's a bump that comes from
the Chiefs and Bills being just down the road from
(22:32):
our Toronto show, and they know there's going to be
a bump from it, of course it's going to be
a factor.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Why not. Kansas City is the most watched team of
the standalone games. Haven't they earned that right?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
They still have a lot of difficult standalone late afternoon games.
I mean, the schedule formula is set by where you
finished in your division, and there's rotations involved. But yeah,
the Chiefs are a big draw. The Chiefs are an
exciting team, and the Chiefs keep winning even with that.
That's what's amazing. You know, the Texans last year they
(23:05):
played every game except Week eight team, which got moved
to Saturday night. They played every game at one o'clock
Eastern on Sunday. And games love that, coaches love that.
It's a rhythm, it's certainty, there's no disruption to the schedule.
You are on that same train every week. Once you win, though,
they start jerking around your Thursday and Sunday and Christmas
(23:28):
in this and the Chiefs still find ways to win
even with all that. That's what's one of the most
amazing things about what they do.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's a great point. We're talking to Mike Florio Pro
Football Talk Live, the show that precedes Hours on Peacock.
You brought this up. I don't know if it was
in relation to Las Vegas and the Las Vegas aces
of the WNBA, where the Tourism board is basically paying
these players to promote Las Vegas. They get one hundred
thousand dollars apiece. And then I'm thinking, is nil coming
(23:57):
to professional sports? Maybe not exactly what we have with
college football or basketball, but can you see how you
can maybe circumvent the salary cap by getting somebody to
pay help pay a player to stay, or you can
get him to go to a certain city.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
And this was the most obvious example we've seen. You've
got half the players on the team that aren't even
making one hundred thousand dollars in salary. They're getting more
money from the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, and
they're going to get from Mark Davis, the owner of
the team. Now, after I wrote that, I heard from
some people who've been connected with the NFL for a
long time saying, well, there's always been kind of you know,
(24:36):
the sponsor of the team, and there's a little money
here and a little money there, but the whole nil dynamic.
You could put together a group of Buffalo Bill's boosters
that pulls their money. I mean already do it with PSLs.
That's phony money that gets funneled to the team. You
could come up with some sort of nil collective to
throw money at Josh Allen to make sure he's happy
(24:58):
with his contract and doesn't want a leave. It just
unlocks a whole new universe of ways that people who
are motivated to give their money to help their favorite
team can do so. And that's what college sports has
been forever. The only difference is that college players don't
get paid except by the boosters, and at the NFL level,
they're already getting paid.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So you see this as something that now would the
NFL have to come up with some kind of law
that prevents this for I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You do it.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
I think the precedent is going to be what the
WNBA does about the Las Vegas Aces, because from the
Aces perspective, hey, we didn't know they were going to
do this. We didn't ask them to do this. I mean,
if you can create a plausible situation where somebody completely
disconnected from the team, at least on paper, is funneling
the money, what can you do? What if Phil Knight
(25:48):
decides that he's now a Texans fan, and he's going
to throw a crapload of money at CJ. Stroud and
all the other key players on the Texans. He's gonna
give them sponsorships that they really like. They don't have
the name recognition be On Stroud, some of these lower
level guys, they really don't deserve a deal, But I'm
(26:08):
gonna give them that money. I mean, they can do that.
They can do that, And I don't know, is it inevitable,
I don't know, but it's available. And I think the
nil reality may get some people to say, well, maybe
this is something we could try.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Help me understand the Justin Jefferson situation with the Vikings.
This is very.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Simple, Dan, and I was just on with Paul Allen
at KFA and the voice of the Vikings last hour.
We hear mixed messages and we get mixed messages from
the Vikings as to what's really going on here. They
say it's all gonna be fine, We're gonna work it out.
But then when you start trying to figure out what's
going on, you get the impression that maybe they think
he wants too much. Well, then don't say it's gonna
(26:46):
be fine if he wants too much, and you may
think he wants too much, but is he being unreasonable.
They had negotiations last year and supposedly they offered him
thirty million per year and he didn't want on it. Well,
we don't know what he wanted, and the structure is
key to how much is fully guaranteed it signing. But
whether it's the Vikings, whether it's the Cowboys, you never
(27:10):
get a better deal if you're the team by waiting
when the guy has proven that he's a keeper, and
Justin Jefferson's a keeper, a superstar. The GM kiser do
Fo Mensas said in February he deserves to be paid
like a top non quarterback. Well that's thirty four million
per year, Nick Bosa. As of now, cap goes up
fifteen point six percent this year. It's always going to
(27:32):
go up. It's always going to go up, and at
some point you just have to stop the bleeding or
you have to trade him. What Paul suggested, Well, you
know they keep him this year, they franchise tagging next year.
You can't play games like that with elite superstar players.
You just have to bite the bullet and pay him
or trade him to someone who will I was saying
that before the draft, when I thought they were going
(27:53):
to try to move up, like, hey, maybe say, Commanders
will give you Justin Jefferson and the eleventh overall pick
for the second pick, and we'll take j and Daniels.
Do that. Then now I don't know what they do,
but talking and doing two different things. And it frustrates
your fan base because you keep thinking it's going to happen,
but we're still waiting. And I don't think it's going
to be an easy fix for the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
What's Matthew Stafford's leverage with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
It's not shown up for training camp because he has
shown up for OTAs. You know what the leverage is.
The leverage is the backup quarterback as Jimmy Garoppolo. That's
the leverage, and he's suspended for the first two games
of the season. So the backup to the backup is
Stetson Bennett, who was on the non football on this
list all last year, and a guy named Dresser Winn
who goes or went to UT Martin. And today's the
(28:41):
day I found out that U. T. Martin even exists.
All apologies to U. T. Martin because I looked up
who the hell dresser Win is. So that's the leverage
Stafford has, and he wants more guarantee beyond this year
because he knew what the rams were up to. They
were doing this one year at a time, and now
is no. I don't want to do one year at
a time.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I want a.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Firm commitment of at least two years. He brought that
to a head. You throw in the Jared Goff contract.
He may also want more dollars on top of more guarantees.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Help me understand the chain gangs going digital? Like, what
is the optics of this during a game?
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Literally, it's the optical device they're going to use. It's
smart And you've had people connected to the league complaining
for years now. Sean Payton's one of the ones who
always says this, look at all the advances we've made
over the past one hundred years since the NFL came along,
and they still use two guys, two sticks, and ten
yards of chain link to determine whether or not a
first down has been gained. There are so many different
(29:41):
ways they can incorporate technology into football. I have said
for years now they need to take the current officiating
function They need to tear it down completely and they
need to rebuild it with all technologies. We currently have
available chips in balls, chips in players, chips all over
the field. They're not expensive. The NFL can afford them.
Even if they are, there are ways to make it better,
(30:02):
and legalized wagering raises the stakes. They need to fix
this stuff and button it up before the scandal that's
going to have the NFL in an ugly spot with
Congress and maybe an agency that would have an oversight
of the NFL. They gotta spend the money and get
this stuff taken care of. And this is a great
step in the right direction to getting everything right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know the problem I have. It's the official when
he marks the ball that to me is so random.
Right everything else is buttoned up, or we hope is
buttoned up. Is like this guy goes I think he
went down right there.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I remember a game from nineteen ninety six Vikings Broncos.
It was a close game, back and forth, and there
was a key fourth down and the official who was
holding the spot with his right foot on one leg,
was kind of like trying to hold his balance and
he hopped a little bit and that hop ended up
being the difference between first down Denver and first down Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And you being a Viking fan.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yeah, that was a long day. I remember that. You know,
I should find something else to do because I remember
the pain a hell of a lot more than I
remember the happiness. And that's one of the good things
about being in this business, because it really isn't like
it used to be. I was twenty five years ago,
thirty years ago. Growing up, it was bad. I would
(31:22):
like go and do a funk for two or three
days after a loss.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
On a Sunday. Keep your head up, Mike.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
It's all good now, it's all good now. Thank you
about alcohol helps. Good to talk to you. It's Mike
Florio Pro Football Talk Live. He's brought to you by
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and busa dot com slash EQB. You know, so, just
(31:53):
some questions there modern technology, what they're going to be doing.
Putting chips in the football just seems like that's where
we're going with all of this, and I'm fine with
it as long as it doesn't slow down the game,
that's all, you know. As I've pointed out before, replay
is used to be known as instant replay, but it
(32:13):
takes forever. You can't say instant replay anymore.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yes, Hunt, I know you want to get it right.
Then you have the technology to do so. But there
is something for me inherently about seeing the guy with
the chain pulling it across to see and the anticipation
if it's going to go past the point of the football.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I'm with you on it's an exciting moment, and
I'm with you on that. I just have a problem
with the official and where he spots the ball. That
seems so random. All right, last call for phone calls.
What we learn, what's in store tomorrow this day in
sports history.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's not a done deal yet, but it looks like
TNT has lost the NBA, NBC. Also, Disney and Amazon
look like they're going to get the rights. I told
Fritzy reach out to Charles Barkley. Charles's going to join
us tomorrow. We'll ask him what he knows and is
he going to be working elsewhere? Can you just take
(33:14):
that entire show and go to NBC. So Charles Barkley
will join us on the show tomorrow. This day in
Sports History and what we learn, what's in store tomorrow,
all of that coming up. You know, I was watching
this documentary about Ashley Madison and Ashley Madison is a
place where you go hook up. It's not a dating site,
(33:36):
it's actually you're married. And their motto is life is short.
Haveing an affair and the only thing that could bring
them down was a data breach, and that's exactly what happened.
They had thirty seven million names in there and a
whole lot more in there with these names attached to it,
(33:59):
and then they have a data breach and all of
a sudden, you thought you could have an affair and
nobody would know anything about it, nobody gets hurt by it,
and everything's good, and next thing you know, oop, somebody
hacked them and then they were holding them for ransom.
Now there's three episodes. I'm halfway through the second one.
I remember when we were offered or the topic of
(34:23):
hey would you let Ashley Madison be a sponsor on
the show? And I go, what is Ashley Madison? And
then I was told by somebody, Oh, it's a dating site,
no other details, just hey, Ashley Madison, they would like
to sponsor your show. And I go, well, it's just
a dating site. I said, first of all, no, but
(34:44):
second of all, I don't know anything else about it.
And they said, well, we can get you guys accounts
if you want to on Ashley Madison. And then we
find out what it is, and I'm thinking, oh, okay, hey,
let me set up a profile here on Ashley Madison.
What could go wrong here? And then we found out
that it was a site to hook up on. But
(35:07):
the documentary is there's some characters in there. Yeah, Paulie, you.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
May not have gotten to it yet. But in the documentary,
does they do the people who steal the data try
to blackmail individuals.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
They were black what they basically wanted As now they're
not sure at least where I am in the documentary
of who was hacking them and who got all this
information they wanted the site taken down. I don't think
they were asking for money as much as they wanted
the site taken down, but they had it. The only
(35:41):
thing that could bring him down data breach. Yeah, Marv,
my favorite part. I'm at the same point you are. Well,
actually I just finished it.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
But when it's like the emails, there's a whole lot
of dot goves, like on the email addresses, a whole
lot of dot gugs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Gotcha yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh Dan Patrick, No, no, not this, Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. And then they they had this one guy who
signed up and a beautiful wife just had a baby.
He's a good looking guy, and you know, he's got
an account and he's having all these affairs. Then all
of a sudden, bang went the dynamite. Bang. Wha, I mean,
(36:28):
boom went the dynamite, not bang.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're right the first time, yeah boom.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I love was an open door.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I didn't even know that. So that they don't exist anymore, right,
Ashley Madison, I have no idea. Of course you don't. Well,
I have no idea, do you know?
Speaker 8 (36:44):
I do not.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
It's got to be tough for the business model when
you're like, hey, come on over here and we'll help
you have an affair don't worry. It's completely safe, well
mostly safe. It's mostly secret. Well they tell you it's safe.
But then even the guy who worked for Ashley Madison said,
we did didn't really take any steps to make it safer.
They just didn't think they were going to be hacked, Like,
(37:05):
why are you going to be hacked? Of course, we're
not expecting to be hacked.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Imagine attending the Ashley Madison Christmas party and every guy
walks in there with three or four dates. Every woman
walks in there with three or four dudes.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yes, Mark, and the guy was married, and they were
talking to the guy who created Ashley Madison, Yes, and
they were like, oh, I'd be devastated if he did
something like that to me.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
But for the rest of you, yeah, go ahead, yeah, Hey.
It doesn't work for me and my relationship, but for
everybody else. If you're not happy, you can have an
affair Ashley Madison.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I was like, wow, everyone working for them was nice
and monogamous. They were like, no, no, we're faithful, but
for the rest of the y'ah have a ball.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This day in sports history Paulie nineteen seventy The Buffalo
Sabers and Vancouver Canucks were officially granted NHL franchises for
the seventy seventy one season. Joe Namath in seventy five
refused four million dollars to play for Chicago in the
WL nineteen ninety one. NFL owners agreed to two more
teams for the nineteen ninety four season. What that Carolina
(38:06):
and Jacksonville?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
Two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Three, high school basketball star Lebron James sign a ninety
million dollar Nike endorsement deal before he went to PROWN.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Let me see what else do I have here? Uh?
Nineteen eighty eight, Dominique scores forty seven, Larry Bird has
thirty four. Celtics Peak the Hawks game seven of their
semifinal series. Andre Dawson set a record he was walked
intentionally five times nineteen ninety and a win against the Reds.
(38:41):
A couple more phone calls Lisa in California, Hi, Lise,
what's on your owne today?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Thanks for calling me and putting me on hold. Dan,
you don't need to change your clothes, but maybe you
could get KK to sing.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
St out of the day.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Ooh see, I would like to have that if Taylor
would be willing to sing stat of the Day, stat
of the Day, bump bomb bomb, Sat of the Day.
I was also hoping Chris Stapleton would sing stat of
the Day. Any other artists out there, you know, it'd
be kind of nice. Maybe Billie Eilish singing. It'd be
(39:18):
be very depressing stat of the Day.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
It'd be like Stan.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The Day, Stand.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Of the Day.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Frey Durst can do it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, no, Fred Durst can't do it. Maybe Green Day
could do stat of the Day, and we could bring
this full circle and we could embrace they in our lane. No,
they're not the ones telling us. It's their fans who
told me to stay in my lane that. I didn't
know all about Green Day until I went to the
(39:56):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, because that's what I
do as a journalist. Educated you, I do absolutely drew.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
What Chris Stapleton, Yes, on tour the summer. Yes, there's
one near us.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Oh my god, Oh you know who's near us? Oh no,
I got my arms wide open.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Oh the creed, Yes, the creators.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
How about Scott stapp sings stat of the Day? The
creators with stats wide open?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I have Chris Stapleton that met life and Eath Rutherford
with George Straight with that, Wow, I have blown George
Straight and Chris and Chris Stapleton Holy cow together.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, sign who's the opener? Little big Town? Then who's second?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think mister Strait goes whenever he wants, Yes, he does.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I just heard some stats today. Oh gotta get Creed. God,
what'd you learn today?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
Reggie Miller believes by the end of his career, Drew Holliday,
well A Christ and Joe Dumars and make the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Seaton O'Connor, Reggie Miller. Some career comparisons today, Horford, Yeah, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Joe dumar six All Star appearances.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Paulie, we're looking for Creed. You're looking to get more
out of your car wash. Try McGuire's new hybrid ceramic
washing wax extreme water beating technology the next time you
wash your car truck, McGuire's reflect your passion. Charles Barkley
on the program tomorrow. I hope you'll join us as
well for the entire gang. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
(41:31):
Thank you,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How do you come back from that one? Pacers give
it Away in the garden last night? Final hour on
this Wednesday, Come on in, Gang's all here, ready to go.
We will talk some football a little bit later on
this hour. I've said before, keeping on the Justin Jefferson
situation with the Vikings Kirk Cousins now in Atlanta, and
you're probably going to have a rookie quarterback in JJ McCarthy.
(00:27):
I think they were offering him thirty million dollars a year.
But what's the hold up? Mike Florio from Pro Football
Talk will stop by. Also, Mike brought this up. Let's
say a local business man, let's say Kansas City, says, hey,
I'm going to make sure we keep this player. I'm
willing to give ten million dollars to this player. So
(00:50):
it's not involved with the team, the salary cap. It's
like name, image and likeness. You're going to hire somebody,
and you could maybe circumvent the south cap and say,
all right, they can offer you this, We're going to
offer you that, and we have this businessman who's going
to give you ten million dollars and he needs you
to do a couple appearances at his car dealership or
(01:13):
whatever it might be. Might be a billionaire and says
I got this money. Like, are we going to get
to the point where you know? The Las Vegas Aces.
So the WNBA, their team, the defending champs, two time
defending champs. They're being paid by the city of Las Vegas. Yes, Poland.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So the deal that was announced a couple of days ago,
each player in the Las Vegas Aces will get one
hundred thousand dollars from the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors
Authority and they have to do certain things promotional appearances,
et cetera, et cetera. But immediately after, the NWNBA is
looking into this deal to see if it violates a
salary cap. How that they said, because the Tourism Board
(01:53):
did not negotiate the payments with the franchise directly and
work with each player's agent, they can't provide had any
rule that was specifically broken. But the WNBA is looking
into it.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. Well, I want to ask Florio, is name, image
and likeness coming to the NFL or NBA or other sports,
Because if you're a businessman, you got money you're not
part of ownership, but you want to help your team
in your town. Can you do that? Is there a
law against doing that? Are we going to get to
(02:25):
the point where name, image, and likeness now becomes part
of the professional ranks? All right? Eight seven to seven
three DP Show email Addressdpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or
listening on our radio affiliates. This is how you lose
it the game. Even though you were the better team.
The Pacers had eight more assists, they had seventeen more
(02:48):
points off the bench. They were a better team last night,
but they had twenty one turnovers, including some of those
very costly towards the end of regulation and also in overtime.
You had your opportunity. They made simple mistakes. Can't get
the ball in all timeout. Advance the ball now, if
(03:08):
you go to half court, now I can use the
front court and the back court to get the ball in.
They're going to foul you. Then it's a free throw game,
and then you win that game. Tyrese Haliburton had the
ball go off his leg. Jalen Brown's in the corner.
You have to guard the three. I know you got
to worry about Tatum and you got to worry about
(03:29):
Jalen Brown. Anybody who's at the three point line. I
don't worry about a two. I worry about a three.
And Siakam gets over there late and then decides not
to foul because he was worried. Maybe the continuation, maybe
Jalen Brown would have a four point play, but they
were told to foul. They knew they had a timeout. Like,
(03:49):
these are things in the moment that you feel like, well,
of course they're professionals. Well, how many have been there before?
Get caught up in the moment, Try to get them
all in turnover. Hey, make sure we got a foul
to give. It's okay, don't let him get a three
off and then you back away. He hits the three. Now,
(04:10):
I'm gonna give credit to Jalen Brown. That's a big
time shot there. But this is this is a team
loss by the Piecers, overall team loss. Rick Carlisle can say, hey,
I'm a fall my sword here, and that's what you
want your coach to do. He'll take blame, should take blame.
Tyrese Haliburton, I mean, this is a team effort there,
(04:30):
but Boston gets out and barely. Our poll question earlier
was do you think this series now goes five or seven?
Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer former Pacers, said he
probably go five. I'd probably go five as well. I'm
hoping for seven, but I'd probably go five. You know,
I don't know. This is one of those it's it's
(04:52):
a loss, but it feels like it's more than a
loss because you had a win. Now they have to
win five games because they won this game, but that
doesn't count. Now they got to win four more. That'd
be pretty tough selecting. Yes, marvh.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
This almost kind of feels like Game one of the
twenty eighteen finals where JR. Smith called the time out
when he forgot the time and score, and you're playing
in overtime, and probably in overtime the entire time, you're
thinking this game should be get over. We shouldn't even
be playing this game.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, you got the game tonight. It'll be Game
one in Minnesota. Minnesota favored by four and a half
against the Mavericks. So that's fun. You got star power
with Luca and ant Man Panthers at the Rangers Game one.
Mike Flurya will join us coming up here in a
little bit. NFL OTAs are underway. Also, the NFL is
(05:46):
experimenting with the chain gang, so the you know, the yard,
the first down markers, and you know, modern technology of
what they're trying to do. So we'll talk to Florio.
He's got some thoughts here on some of the things
that I've brought up. Phone calls, we'll get to those
coming up in fact. Austin in Minneapolis, Hey Austin, thanks
for holding. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Hey Dan, how's it going.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
First, I'm six, two thirty five that also just had
a baby on March fifteenth. First one, talking a lot
about Minnesota these days. Obviously we all know about the
twenty twenty four timber Wolves, but we've had a couple
other lovable losers.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
You know, I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I haven't seen a championship in my whole life here
in Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
I just wanted you to maybe compare.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
And I know it's NFL to NBA, but when you
think about the on nine Vikings with Brett Farv and
Adrian Peterson, Sidney Rice, the Williams Wall, that ninety eight
team with Moss and Cunningham, Chris Carter Randall, which which
one of those teams may be is the I test.
Maybe you want to rank them, but which one of
those teams do you think had the best chance at
that winning a super Bowl or a championship?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Thank you? Minnesota is kind of underrated in painful sports
moments football for sure, because you go back with the Vikings.
I'd say the ninety nine Vikings says that might be
that might be right there, number one, Yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're like fifteen and one. Yeah, like Randall, Cunningham had
forty nine touchdown passes, though he'd have forty nine, but
he had something create Randy Moss's rookie year and he
lost to the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's one of those where you're gone, they're going to
go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yes, the twenty nineteen Vikings, though, you're going to the
super Bowl that you're going to host.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you're gonna host that one. That okay, is that
a better team? That might be more painful moment, but
it felt like the fifteen and one Vikings, Yeah, it
was a better team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You're completely right that the nineteen team was ten and
six kind of snuck it all.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, boy, that's that's where you're watching in your think,
you're you're already fast forward of thinking about Minnesota gets
to host a Super Bowl and then if oh no,
oh no, yes, Mark.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
In ninety eight, what were the Broncos thinking when they
found out the Vikings lost? Like, Oh, we're not playing
the Vikings, We're playing the Falcons. Oh oh they're they're
licking the chops right now.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, damn.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
At least they weren't up twenty eight three in that one.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wow, here to bring us in?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Are you bring the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
People in? Dale in Kentucky is back?
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Dale? What's on your mind? Well?
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Dan, I've got a little morale booster for you guys.
I've emailed Tyler a one hundred percent Awards certip kids.
He's going to print it out. You write all the guys'
names in it, and they put it on the refrigerator
eating the band eater in the vand taber take it home.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, thank you, thank you. Dale. Yeah, we didn't win
the Sports Emmy last night, but we weren't nominated for
the Sports Emmy. We were invited to watch the Sports Emmys,
not in the building, but we were always We're curious
who was going to win MLB tonight. They ended up
winning the Sports Emmy, and we're really happy for them.
Speaker 11 (09:13):
Yeah sure, yeah, see this doesn't mean spirit and a
different topic, but Jerry and Indy's wondering if the NBA
sends a video of every play that the Pacers and
Rick Carlyle watched for a game.
Speaker 12 (09:26):
One wow, damn soon wow wow, editing together all these highlights,
stuff like that's a bad.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Boy, yeah, and bad coaching decision there, bad play, Maybe
the referees call out Rick Carlile. Dang, That's why I
love this audience. Let's see what else do we have here?
Tim in La, Hi, Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (10:01):
It's actually like ken As, I'm just Ken.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh, I'm sorry, Tyler has Tim here ye, Kennon Barbie,
there you go, all right, Ki, here you go, Danny,
all right, I'm gonna go old school Hall of Fame
Bill Bradley.
Speaker 13 (10:18):
Bill Bradley with the Knicks made one All Star team.
He was obviously fabulous at price did but of course
he won two championships of the Knicks. But I think
he did because of his college career, so that would
support your late in life. But the Hall of Fame,
of the Basketball Hall of Fame. It's a slippery sloper.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I have no problem with Bill Bradley being a
Hall of Famer. He was a starter on two NBA teams.
He was the college basketball player of the Year at Princeton.
He scored like sixty points in a tournament game. I
don't know Rhodes Scholar. I mean he had a pretty
good decorated resume there.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, Paul Magic, Mike Scheschefski, Duke won a couple titles,
like handful of titles right in the nineties and then
decided to be a pro coach and bounced around the
pros and didn't do much and had like three jobs
and didn't work out. He's still going into the Basketball
Hall of Fame. As for his one.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Jerry Tarkanian coached in the NBA. He was a great
college coach. Later's that Latner played fourteen years in the NBA.
You don't accidentally play fourteen years. May not have been great,
he was an All Star once, but you're on the
Dream Team and you're one of the great college basketball
players of all time. And look, I'm not friendly with
Latner outside of when he comes on people think, oh,
(11:38):
what's your agenda. I don't have an agenda. I'm just
saying what I think you know, and this is obvious.
He should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame. That's it.
I mean, we can have topics about other players. I
said Al Horford. I don't know Al Horford, just telling
you he won two titles at Florida, and he won
an NBA title and he's a five time All Star. Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I was fighting you guys for a long time on
Christian Laner, but I'm sorry you guys win because guys
like Vladi Devopo Raja are in the Hall of Fame
because of what they did internationally. Yes, and they were
good NBA players, just like Christian Laetner. And so if
they're in, why not put Christian Lightener Hawk.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
In Phoenix joints us Hi Hawk? What's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (12:21):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Dan at Hawk again to six two fifty three now
drafting a little way. So this is going back to
the Christian Lightner saying, if we're gonna point out Christian Lander,
why not Sean Elliott who was a National Player of
the Year. He was a first round pick, number three overall,
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just like Christian Lanner, and he had a an NBA
championship with the Spurs. He also had his number retired
from the Spurs. So I gotta think if Christian Lanner
gets in, which I think he should, Sean Elliott has
to get in. And Sean Elliott at one point told
me playing the pick up game at my own heighths
nice past. So I love the dude, And with that,
(13:03):
I leave you with this suck at all rows.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Ain't easy there.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
It might be a first. I don't know if I
haven't ever had an all row sucket.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You gotta pick her.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You just like we're kind of sensitive right now, the
sports semi thing hawk.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
I mean, actually just feel kind of dead inside about it.
I have no no emotions. Actually really welcome to the club. Yeah,
dead inside. Yeah, it's just doesn't matter. Come on now,
every day it's a super Bowl. Come on for some people.
For me it is for some shows. Come on, come on,
(13:42):
get up, Yeah, let's get up.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, maybe Mike Greenberg could give us a pep talk,
tell us to get up, tell us to get up.
Come on, guys, get up.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
How to lose them?
Speaker 8 (13:55):
You affect that Prescot's COTR coming up next?
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Mike Floorio on the important storyline you will hear today.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Now, if Greene was going to give us a pep
talk or say something, he would be Dan Patrick Show. No, no,
it would be Dak Prescott, like the Dan Patrick Show.
Can't win the big one, we'll discuss.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Fair, fair fair, Who is.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The Achilles heel of Aaron Rodgers. No, no, it's the
Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes time.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But Greenie also all likes to say it is what
it is, so we should just move on. It is
what it is, and that's it.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
We weren't nominated, we didn't win, and let's go on
to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Thank you to okay, healthy attitude. It is what it is.
Whatever that means. Never understood that it is what it is, Okay,
nothing more and nothing less. But somebody came up with that,
and then all of a sudden we ran with it.
I just I feel like there's one person who comes
up with all these sayings somewhere in America, in the world,
(14:49):
and like, you know what I'm thinking of doing. After
every sentence that you have, you go right, and then
you know, Dino Raja should be in the Hall of Fame. Right,
Marvin is great at what he does well. No, Marvin
is good at what he does, right, damn yes, Marv.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh that was a nice accurate, but not nice man.
Now you threw me off because you just insulted me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like real bad right right right right? You know what
I'm saying, Hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh, that's what I was gonna say when someone when
someone says you can have your cake and eat it too,
what does that mean?
Speaker 11 (15:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think it goes back to what let them eat cake?
Was that like a queen who said that talking about
the peasants, let them eat cake?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Don't you eat cake? Have your cake and eat it too.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
It's actually you can't have your cake and eat it too?
Is the is the expression?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So people missing it forever?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
You can't still like have a plate of cake and
then eat it too.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
We'll cut you a piece of cake. Just don't eat it.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
We'll put it in front of you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Just gotta look, or you can't cut it. That's true
somebody else.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But then just don't eat it.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Just stare like you're saying you can't have you can't
have both, right, you can't have you can have one
or the other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
One or the other more, But do you want cake.
Although if I get cake, like, what am I doing
with the cake? If I can't eat it? So I
don't want the cake. I want to eat the cake.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah, but that's just not how it's going.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, but that's the way it is. It is what
it is, Okay, Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I have a friend who I talked to periodically, and
he is a writer ri I g h T everything
and every sentence ends with right. And then so I
went to my daughter's soccer game right, and I go,
you don't have to say right, Like I get it.
He goes, what do you mean? I go, you're saying
right after every sentence? I am, yes, oh okay. And
(16:48):
then he'll say a sentence there and go right, and
I'll go, okay, never mind.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
Right, But you actually brought that up to him.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Make them all self conscious about it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, I'm trying to help him. Like my kids say,
they can't get through a sentence without saying like like
you know, like now, I go, like, what log what
do you mean? I go, you don't need to use
like all the never mind, it is what it is, Marvin, Okay, Right,
take a break.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
We're the Dallas Cowboys of sports, Emmy's solid twelve and
five team, but can't win in the playoffs. Okay, as
Mo just said that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We'll discuss later on Sports Center. How about we take
a break. Good, All right, We'll talk someboutotball. Yeah, right
back after this.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
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Speaker 1 (17:46):
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Speaker 14 (17:50):
In fact, Tony, why don't you open up one of
those letters right now and read what's inside? Hey, listen
to this. Dear Paulie and Tony, your sports takes the
dumbest and most terribly not that we open this other one. Yea,
PAULI in Tony, you suck more than anyone. Wait, try
this one a Paulie and Tony, you guys are the
absolute best. There you going coming up with the stupidest take.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
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Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, more phone calls coming up on a show that
used to get nominated for Sports Emmys. It is what
it is. We don't even get nominated anymore. It's okay. Oh,
by the way, the next city to be hosting the
NFL Draft is it twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six? PAULI?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
The NFL just announced the city for the twenty twenty
six NFL Draft.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Do you guys want to guess?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Wait? So this was the twenty twenty four draft, right,
So where's the twenty twenty five draft? Great question? Green Bay, Wisconsin?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, okay, so, and now there's twenty twenty six that's
been announced by the NFL. Right, friends at the NFL, Okay,
go around the room. Then we'll bring in Florida, Todd.
Where do you think the NFL draft will be.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An exciting team that's up been coming stronger than ever.
Hugh Town, Texas?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, I ain't also each town.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Seaton O'Connor going to say, uh, Washington, home of your commanders.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, Marvin, I'm going to say the in Buffalo, Buffalo Hot.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's a good shot. I'm going to say, La, our
next guest can drive there.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It's gonna be in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Oh, that's awesome. I like that. That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mike Florio Pro Football TNK Live co host and Football
Night in America. Pittsburgh hosting the Draft in a couple
of years, that sounds like it'll be festive.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Well, it's going to get around to every city at
some time or another. This all happened by accident. The
NFL had a scheduling conflict at Radio City Music Hall
ten years ago. They couldn't get in for the draft,
so they said, fine, we'll take it to Chicago. Hey,
we kind of like it. They did it there two
years and they went to Philly. We had that remember
that great scene in Philly. That was the moment. It's
(20:15):
like they found something here at the NFL. Just they
keep doing this. There's no strategy involved. They just kind
of float. It's like, hey, that's pretty good. We'll keep
doing that. So it'll be huge in Pittsburgh. Because it's
not just Pittsburgh. You got West Virginia where I'm from,
Ohio Pennsylvania the whole. It's the cradle of football in
(20:36):
western Pennsylvania. People will flock to Pittsburgh by the tens
of thousands for that.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, let me go back to your saying the NFL,
even without strategy. The NFL schedule makers said that they
didn't plan Kansas City playing Buffalo in Buffalo around Taylor
Swift being in Toronto that week, same week that she
would be able to go to the game. Because I said,
prior to this the schedule release, I said, when does
(21:03):
Taylor Swift play Canada? Guys told me. I said, when
is she in Toronto? The guys told me, and I said,
let's see when Kansas City goes to Buffalo. They said,
it's just coincidental, Mike. The NFL would never do something
like that. They can't come out and say they did
do it, because then you're sort of manipulating this a
little bit more than for just football or weather reasons.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
There are no coincidences. And look, I am not a
conspiracy theorist by any stretch. That term has a very
negative connotation nowadays. But when it comes to the schedule,
and I've been all over this as it relates to
the Jets schedule, because the Jets haven't been to the
playoffs since twenty ten. What the hell have they done
to deserve six prime time games the first eleven weeks,
(21:48):
two Thursday night games on short weeks in the first
nine weeks, seven standalone games through week eleven. What have
they done? They have Aaron Rodgers and this notion that,
as Mike North, the VP of broadcast planning said last week,
the Jets kind of OUs one because Roger got hurt
last week? Well, what did the Jets get out of that?
They had a crap year. They worry about competitive balance
with the draft, it's a factor in setting the opponents,
(22:11):
but when it's time to set the schedules, the NFL
is all about maximum ratings. And even if you were
a bad team last year, even a bad team for
fifteen years, it doesn't matter. If we think we can
get maximum ratings, we're going to put you in these spots,
even if it hurts you to be in these spots.
And so, yeah, if there's a bump that comes from
the Chiefs and Bills being just down the road from
(22:32):
our Toronto show, and they know there's going to be
a bump from it, of course it's going to be
a factor.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Why not. Kansas City is the most watched team of
the standalone games. Haven't they earned that right?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
They still have a lot of difficult standalone late afternoon games.
I mean, the schedule formula is set by where you
finished in your division, and there's rotations involved. But yeah,
the Chiefs are a big draw. The Chiefs are an
exciting team, and the Chiefs keep winning even with that.
That's what's amazing. You know, the Texans last year they
(23:05):
played every game except Week eight team, which got moved
to Saturday night. They played every game at one o'clock
Eastern on Sunday. And games love that, coaches love that.
It's a rhythm, it's certainty, there's no disruption to the schedule.
You are on that same train every week. Once you win, though,
they start jerking around your Thursday and Sunday and Christmas
(23:28):
in this and the Chiefs still find ways to win
even with all that. That's what's one of the most
amazing things about what they do.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's a great point. We're talking to Mike Florio Pro
Football Talk Live, the show that precedes Hours on Peacock.
You brought this up. I don't know if it was
in relation to Las Vegas and the Las Vegas aces
of the WNBA, where the Tourism board is basically paying
these players to promote Las Vegas. They get one hundred
thousand dollars apiece. And then I'm thinking, is nil coming
(23:57):
to professional sports? Maybe not exactly what we have with
college football or basketball, but can you see how you
can maybe circumvent the salary cap by getting somebody to
pay help pay a player to stay, or you can
get him to go to a certain city.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
And this was the most obvious example we've seen. You've
got half the players on the team that aren't even
making one hundred thousand dollars in salary. They're getting more
money from the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, and
they're going to get from Mark Davis, the owner of
the team. Now, after I wrote that, I heard from
some people who've been connected with the NFL for a
long time saying, well, there's always been kind of you know,
(24:36):
the sponsor of the team, and there's a little money
here and a little money there, but the whole nil dynamic.
You could put together a group of Buffalo Bill's boosters
that pulls their money. I mean already do it with PSLs.
That's phony money that gets funneled to the team. You
could come up with some sort of nil collective to
throw money at Josh Allen to make sure he's happy
(24:58):
with his contract and doesn't want a leave. It just
unlocks a whole new universe of ways that people who
are motivated to give their money to help their favorite
team can do so. And that's what college sports has
been forever. The only difference is that college players don't
get paid except by the boosters, and at the NFL level,
they're already getting paid.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So you see this as something that now would the
NFL have to come up with some kind of law
that prevents this for I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You do it.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
I think the precedent is going to be what the
WNBA does about the Las Vegas Aces, because from the
Aces perspective, hey, we didn't know they were going to
do this. We didn't ask them to do this. I mean,
if you can create a plausible situation where somebody completely
disconnected from the team, at least on paper, is funneling
the money, what can you do? What if Phil Knight
(25:48):
decides that he's now a Texans fan, and he's going
to throw a crapload of money at CJ. Stroud and
all the other key players on the Texans. He's gonna
give them sponsorships that they really like. They don't have
the name recognition be On Stroud, some of these lower
level guys, they really don't deserve a deal, But I'm
(26:08):
gonna give them that money. I mean, they can do that.
They can do that, And I don't know, is it inevitable,
I don't know, but it's available. And I think the
nil reality may get some people to say, well, maybe
this is something we could try.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Help me understand the Justin Jefferson situation with the Vikings.
This is very.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Simple, Dan, and I was just on with Paul Allen
at KFA and the voice of the Vikings last hour.
We hear mixed messages and we get mixed messages from
the Vikings as to what's really going on here. They
say it's all gonna be fine, We're gonna work it out.
But then when you start trying to figure out what's
going on, you get the impression that maybe they think
he wants too much. Well, then don't say it's gonna
(26:46):
be fine if he wants too much, and you may
think he wants too much, but is he being unreasonable.
They had negotiations last year and supposedly they offered him
thirty million per year and he didn't want on it. Well,
we don't know what he wanted, and the structure is
key to how much is fully guaranteed it signing. But
whether it's the Vikings, whether it's the Cowboys, you never
(27:10):
get a better deal if you're the team by waiting
when the guy has proven that he's a keeper, and
Justin Jefferson's a keeper, a superstar. The GM kiser do
Fo Mensas said in February he deserves to be paid
like a top non quarterback. Well that's thirty four million
per year, Nick Bosa. As of now, cap goes up
fifteen point six percent this year. It's always going to
(27:32):
go up. It's always going to go up, and at
some point you just have to stop the bleeding or
you have to trade him. What Paul suggested, Well, you
know they keep him this year, they franchise tagging next year.
You can't play games like that with elite superstar players.
You just have to bite the bullet and pay him
or trade him to someone who will I was saying
that before the draft, when I thought they were going
(27:53):
to try to move up, like, hey, maybe say, Commanders
will give you Justin Jefferson and the eleventh overall pick
for the second pick, and we'll take j and Daniels.
Do that. Then now I don't know what they do,
but talking and doing two different things. And it frustrates
your fan base because you keep thinking it's going to happen,
but we're still waiting. And I don't think it's going
to be an easy fix for the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
What's Matthew Stafford's leverage with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
It's not shown up for training camp because he has
shown up for OTAs. You know what the leverage is.
The leverage is the backup quarterback as Jimmy Garoppolo. That's
the leverage, and he's suspended for the first two games
of the season. So the backup to the backup is
Stetson Bennett, who was on the non football on this
list all last year, and a guy named Dresser Winn
who goes or went to UT Martin. And today's the
(28:41):
day I found out that U. T. Martin even exists.
All apologies to U. T. Martin because I looked up
who the hell dresser Win is. So that's the leverage
Stafford has, and he wants more guarantee beyond this year
because he knew what the rams were up to. They
were doing this one year at a time, and now
is no. I don't want to do one year at
a time.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I want a.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Firm commitment of at least two years. He brought that
to a head. You throw in the Jared Goff contract.
He may also want more dollars on top of more guarantees.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Help me understand the chain gangs going digital? Like, what
is the optics of this during a game?
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Literally, it's the optical device they're going to use. It's
smart And you've had people connected to the league complaining
for years now. Sean Payton's one of the ones who
always says this, look at all the advances we've made
over the past one hundred years since the NFL came along,
and they still use two guys, two sticks, and ten
yards of chain link to determine whether or not a
first down has been gained. There are so many different
(29:41):
ways they can incorporate technology into football. I have said
for years now they need to take the current officiating
function They need to tear it down completely and they
need to rebuild it with all technologies. We currently have
available chips in balls, chips in players, chips all over
the field. They're not expensive. The NFL can afford them.
Even if they are, there are ways to make it better,
(30:02):
and legalized wagering raises the stakes. They need to fix
this stuff and button it up before the scandal that's
going to have the NFL in an ugly spot with
Congress and maybe an agency that would have an oversight
of the NFL. They gotta spend the money and get
this stuff taken care of. And this is a great
step in the right direction to getting everything right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know the problem I have. It's the official when
he marks the ball that to me is so random.
Right everything else is buttoned up, or we hope is
buttoned up. Is like this guy goes I think he
went down right there.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I remember a game from nineteen ninety six Vikings Broncos.
It was a close game, back and forth, and there
was a key fourth down and the official who was
holding the spot with his right foot on one leg,
was kind of like trying to hold his balance and
he hopped a little bit and that hop ended up
being the difference between first down Denver and first down Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And you being a Viking fan.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yeah, that was a long day. I remember that. You know,
I should find something else to do because I remember
the pain a hell of a lot more than I
remember the happiness. And that's one of the good things
about being in this business, because it really isn't like
it used to be. I was twenty five years ago,
thirty years ago. Growing up, it was bad. I would
(31:22):
like go and do a funk for two or three
days after a loss.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
On a Sunday. Keep your head up, Mike.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
It's all good now, it's all good now. Thank you
about alcohol helps. Good to talk to you. It's Mike
Florio Pro Football Talk Live. He's brought to you by
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(31:53):
some questions there modern technology, what they're going to be doing.
Putting chips in the football just seems like that's where
we're going with all of this, and I'm fine with
it as long as it doesn't slow down the game,
that's all, you know. As I've pointed out before, replay
is used to be known as instant replay, but it
(32:13):
takes forever. You can't say instant replay anymore.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yes, Hunt, I know you want to get it right.
Then you have the technology to do so. But there
is something for me inherently about seeing the guy with
the chain pulling it across to see and the anticipation
if it's going to go past the point of the football.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And I'm with you on it's an exciting moment, and
I'm with you on that. I just have a problem
with the official and where he spots the ball. That
seems so random. All right, last call for phone calls.
What we learn, what's in store tomorrow this day in
sports history.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's not a done deal yet, but it looks like
TNT has lost the NBA, NBC. Also, Disney and Amazon
look like they're going to get the rights. I told
Fritzy reach out to Charles Barkley. Charles's going to join
us tomorrow. We'll ask him what he knows and is
he going to be working elsewhere? Can you just take
(33:14):
that entire show and go to NBC. So Charles Barkley
will join us on the show tomorrow. This day in
Sports History and what we learn, what's in store tomorrow,
all of that coming up. You know, I was watching
this documentary about Ashley Madison and Ashley Madison is a
place where you go hook up. It's not a dating site,
(33:36):
it's actually you're married. And their motto is life is short.
Haveing an affair and the only thing that could bring
them down was a data breach, and that's exactly what happened.
They had thirty seven million names in there and a
whole lot more in there with these names attached to it,
(33:59):
and then they have a data breach and all of
a sudden, you thought you could have an affair and
nobody would know anything about it, nobody gets hurt by it,
and everything's good, and next thing you know, oop, somebody
hacked them and then they were holding them for ransom.
Now there's three episodes. I'm halfway through the second one.
I remember when we were offered or the topic of
(34:23):
hey would you let Ashley Madison be a sponsor on
the show? And I go, what is Ashley Madison? And
then I was told by somebody, Oh, it's a dating site,
no other details, just hey, Ashley Madison, they would like
to sponsor your show. And I go, well, it's just
a dating site. I said, first of all, no, but
(34:44):
second of all, I don't know anything else about it.
And they said, well, we can get you guys accounts
if you want to on Ashley Madison. And then we
find out what it is, and I'm thinking, oh, okay, hey,
let me set up a profile here on Ashley Madison.
What could go wrong here? And then we found out
that it was a site to hook up on. But
(35:07):
the documentary is there's some characters in there. Yeah, Paulie, you.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
May not have gotten to it yet. But in the documentary,
does they do the people who steal the data try
to blackmail individuals.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
They were black what they basically wanted As now they're
not sure at least where I am in the documentary
of who was hacking them and who got all this
information they wanted the site taken down. I don't think
they were asking for money as much as they wanted
the site taken down, but they had it. The only
(35:41):
thing that could bring him down data breach. Yeah, Marv,
my favorite part. I'm at the same point you are. Well,
actually I just finished it.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
But when it's like the emails, there's a whole lot
of dot goves, like on the email addresses, a whole
lot of dot gugs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Gotcha yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh Dan Patrick, No, no, not this, Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. And then they they had this one guy who
signed up and a beautiful wife just had a baby.
He's a good looking guy, and you know, he's got
an account and he's having all these affairs. Then all
of a sudden, bang went the dynamite. Bang. Wha, I mean,
(36:28):
boom went the dynamite, not bang.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're right the first time, yeah boom.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I love was an open door.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I didn't even know that. So that they don't exist anymore, right,
Ashley Madison, I have no idea. Of course you don't. Well,
I have no idea, do you know?
Speaker 8 (36:44):
I do not.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
It's got to be tough for the business model when
you're like, hey, come on over here and we'll help
you have an affair don't worry. It's completely safe, well
mostly safe. It's mostly secret. Well they tell you it's safe.
But then even the guy who worked for Ashley Madison said,
we did didn't really take any steps to make it safer.
They just didn't think they were going to be hacked, Like,
(37:05):
why are you going to be hacked? Of course, we're
not expecting to be hacked.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Imagine attending the Ashley Madison Christmas party and every guy
walks in there with three or four dates. Every woman
walks in there with three or four dudes.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yes, Mark, and the guy was married, and they were
talking to the guy who created Ashley Madison, Yes, and
they were like, oh, I'd be devastated if he did
something like that to me.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
But for the rest of you, yeah, go ahead, yeah, Hey.
It doesn't work for me and my relationship, but for
everybody else. If you're not happy, you can have an
affair Ashley Madison.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I was like, wow, everyone working for them was nice
and monogamous. They were like, no, no, we're faithful, but
for the rest of the y'ah have a ball.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This day in sports history Paulie nineteen seventy The Buffalo
Sabers and Vancouver Canucks were officially granted NHL franchises for
the seventy seventy one season. Joe Namath in seventy five
refused four million dollars to play for Chicago in the
WL nineteen ninety one. NFL owners agreed to two more
teams for the nineteen ninety four season. What that Carolina
(38:06):
and Jacksonville?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
All right.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
Two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Three, high school basketball star Lebron James sign a ninety
million dollar Nike endorsement deal before he went to PROWN.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Let me see what else do I have here? Uh?
Nineteen eighty eight, Dominique scores forty seven, Larry Bird has
thirty four. Celtics Peak the Hawks game seven of their
semifinal series. Andre Dawson set a record he was walked
intentionally five times nineteen ninety and a win against the Reds.
(38:41):
A couple more phone calls Lisa in California, Hi, Lise,
what's on your owne today?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Thanks for calling me and putting me on hold. Dan,
you don't need to change your clothes, but maybe you
could get KK to sing.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
St out of the day.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Ooh see, I would like to have that if Taylor
would be willing to sing stat of the Day, stat
of the Day, bump bomb bomb, Sat of the Day.
I was also hoping Chris Stapleton would sing stat of
the Day. Any other artists out there, you know, it'd
be kind of nice. Maybe Billie Eilish singing. It'd be
(39:18):
be very depressing stat of the Day.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
It'd be like Stan.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The Day, Stand.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Of the Day.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Frey Durst can do it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, no, Fred Durst can't do it. Maybe Green Day
could do stat of the Day, and we could bring
this full circle and we could embrace they in our lane. No,
they're not the ones telling us. It's their fans who
told me to stay in my lane that. I didn't
know all about Green Day until I went to the
(39:56):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, because that's what I
do as a journalist. Educated you, I do absolutely drew.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
What Chris Stapleton, Yes, on tour the summer. Yes, there's
one near us.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Oh my god, Oh you know who's near us? Oh no,
I got my arms wide open.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Oh the creed, Yes, the creators.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
How about Scott stapp sings stat of the Day? The
creators with stats wide open?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I have Chris Stapleton that met life and Eath Rutherford
with George Straight with that, Wow, I have blown George
Straight and Chris and Chris Stapleton Holy cow together.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, sign who's the opener? Little big Town? Then who's second?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think mister Strait goes whenever he wants, Yes, he does.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I just heard some stats today. Oh gotta get Creed. God,
what'd you learn today?
Speaker 9 (40:57):
Reggie Miller believes by the end of his career, Drew Holliday,
well A Christ and Joe Dumars and make the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Seaton O'Connor, Reggie Miller. Some career comparisons today, Horford, Yeah, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Joe dumar six All Star appearances.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Paulie, we're looking for Creed. You're looking to get more
out of your car wash. Try McGuire's new hybrid ceramic
washing wax extreme water beating technology the next time you
wash your car truck, McGuire's reflect your passion. Charles Barkley
on the program tomorrow. I hope you'll join us as
well for the entire gang. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
(41:31):
Thank you,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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