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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:24):
We got the Mariners, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Brewers. That'll be
coming up later today. And you have two football games,
Bill's Falcons Bears, Commanders. Bears getting five and a half
and the Falcons are getting four and a half at
home against the Buffalo Bills. When's the last time the
Falcons and the Bills played a game? Just seems so random.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's a weird combo. It is Falcons Bills are playing.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, and then we're going to revisit the which quarterback
the Bears should have taken? With Jaden Daniels and Caleb
Williams coming up tonight, I'm sure that that will be
the pregame festivities as they revisit that.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yes, Paul, the Bills and Falcons have played thirteen times
so Bill's winning six, Falcons winning seven.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
When's the last time they played twenty twenty two? Oh okay,
does seem random?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Though?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
It does?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And since we've been doing this, they played five times
in the past twenty years.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
All right, So you got baseball tonight, you got football tonight,
a doubleheader. And I'm looking forward to getting the college
football rankings now because now it starts to get real.
Now kind of where you are now, you can establish
your footing here when it comes to the playoffs. Indiana,
I mean, people might make a case for Indiana that
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they're the second best team in college football. It'll be
Ohio State in Miami. But Indiana, Indiana. That was impressive.
Has anybody had a better win than Indiana had at Oregon?
I don't think so. But that was impressive. I mean,
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Ohio State was favored over Texas, weren't they in that opener?
I think a slight favorite, and they were home for
that game. Texas handled Ou. That was not a good watch.
I mean I watched it and John Mattier he wanted
to be back after breaking his hand.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
He probably shouldn't have been back.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Bammatt squeaks by Missouri and Penn State fires James Franklin,
there'll be a lot of coaches to be interested in
Penn State, rightfully, So I mean that setting resources, the
talent that they've had there, and James Franklin will get
another job. But that was one of those where I
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wasn't surprised, but there's still that shocked element of oh
my god, they did fire him. But when you're twenty
point favorites and you lose back to back games and
you don't have his on your side of winning big games,
but you just gave him an extension and now forty
nine million, that's it just felt like there was too
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much money to fire him. And I think those are
the scenarios that we're going to be seeing more of
because these coaches want ten year contracts. But you know,
that golden parachute, I mean, that's what's better than gold.
I mean that that was that's a great parachute to have.
There was so much gold in his golden parachute. It
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brought him all the way to the ground and he
got fired. But forty nine million dollars. We asked the
poll question, did he have a bad weekend? It was
like sixty percent of the audience said that he did
have a bad weekend Seaton.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Now it's at sixty three percent of the audience, so yes,
it's a bad week Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Sunday night, it'll be Bjeon Robinson and the foulc taking
on Christian McCaffrey and the Niners primetime Sunday seven Eastern
on NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You're gonna have to dress that one up a little
more than let me see if I can sell that
Sunday Night. Who would have thought they would be going
head to head, But you asked for it, you got it.
B Jeon Robinson and the Falcons take on Christian McCaffrey
and the Niners primetime Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Yes, Todd, former division rivals back in the day.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, well nobody remembers that, but you do, Thank you, Tod.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I also was wondering about the oversaturation of the NFL
and Thursday and then you have Sunday mornings, Sunday Night,
and then you got two games on Monday night and
then we're gonna have Thursday, and I think then we
repeat it again coming up next week. And I don't
know if the numbers how they bear out, you know, ratings,
if people are watching. I always thought Thursday night games
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should have been standal loan holiday games, like Thanksgiving on
a Thursday, you know, something along those lines, not every Thursday.
But there's so much money out there. These owners aren't
going to turn down this kind of money. They'd be
crazy too. They're like, no, we'll keep giving them what
they want.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Oh, how about another game here, how about we have
games outside the United States.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, we'll do that as well. So you're just adding
a couple more billion billions of dollars to the bottom
line because you got Thursday Night, you'll get an eighteenth game,
You're going to have all of these games around the globe.
They're not turning down money for the betterment of the product.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Yeah, at the end of the regular season, when college
football's kind of on its hiatus between bowl games, when
there's NFL games on Saturdays, they're like, oh, let's go. Yeah,
they take that whole weekend if they could.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I hope that they stay away from Friday in college
football because I still want high school football to have
a standalone But we've seen more games with college football.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
The NFL can't do it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think legally they can't play on Friday night, but
there's nothing like Friday night high school football. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I will say the Sunday morning games in Europe that
start at nine thirty Eastern and six thirty on the
West Coast, they're getting a little less special and more frustrating.
Sunday morning is kind of when you ease into your
football day and do other things. You got you got
ten hours if you start at one o'clock Eastern. Those
international games are getting a little less special.
Speaker 9 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Too often.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Yeah, and they're rarely like shootouts where it's wild, it's unbelievable.
It just feels like they're slugging it out. It's a
slog yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Sorry Jets fans. So I'm watching it early in the
morning and my wife goes, oh, who's playing? Like wait,
she goes, are they playing live? With Yeah, ill, you
gotta watch the Jets live.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
And it was it was a horrible game.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
She was so disgusted.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I immediately thought, how many games end thirteen to
eleven in NFL history? Because it was like, what a mess.
And then you get no offense from the Jets. Justin
Fields gets sacked nine times.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
It's bad. Yes, Bronco's apologize.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
It looked like both teams slept in and they forgot
the time zone of what time it was, and all
of a sudden they got to wake up, calling the
again on the bus.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We got to get to the game. It's starting.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Oh my god, got my that's my helmet.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yes, Pully, I have three games in NFL history that
finished thirteen eleven Lions Eagles in eighty six, Broncos over
the Seahawks, or Broncos losing to the Seahawks in eighty three.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, thirteen to eleven. That's an odd one. Literally, it's
an odd one. Eleven and thirteen stay.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
With me book prime numbers too.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Eleven, eleven, eleven.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
And we were looking for a person's name there.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The Passhole T shirts they sold out, and I told
you that you only had a couple of days to
get them, but we sold those out. We'll let you
know next batch of T shirts available.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Pass I'll do well.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm gonna guess some people in South Bend showing up
on Thursday or Friday might have that T shirt on.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
That's maybe very likely, and you did you know?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That whole conversation changed me of I'm so aware somebody
can be twenty yards behind me and I'm in the
left lane. I'll get in the middle lane like I'm
aware of it far more than and I'm not one
of those. I'm staying here. And that's it. It happened
to me one time where I was going probably nine
miles over the speed limit and there was a car
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that was coming up on me, and I thought, I'm
going nine miles over and I didn't get over, and
he walked or he drove by, and he sticks his
hand out of the window window all the way down
so his finger was on the door, and he flipped
me off, and I went, okay, you know, I'm okay
(09:02):
with that. It wasn't a honk or anything. It was
just a I'm just gonna have you know. It wasn't
horns down, it was bird down. And he flipped me off,
and I went, all right, Yeah I deserve that, Yes, Tom,
I don't think you deserved that.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Now, you shouldn't tell the reason why he got all
upset is because well, he probably just went right back
into the left lane in front of you and kept
going twenty miles an hour pass to speed limit in
the left lane.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
He did right.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
It was because it wasn't about passing to get into
any other lane. You just want to stay in the
left lane and go ninety miles an hour till he
gets to his destination. I was my point from the beginning,
and you weren't blocking anybody. He was being a jerk
riding on top of you, almost creating an accident.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
No, no, no, we're not doing this. You know what,
passhole t shirts are going to be available to's point.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
From the beginning of that has changed about that?
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yes, seven year times?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hey, your point you had, Remember you had little old
ladies in the right lane, and you you offered up
different vantage points of your opinion on that todd in
fairness to the topic. You kept moving the goalpost because
you weren't winning that argue. Well, I'll try to win
that argument, and then I'll try to win that argument.
Mike and Wisconsin. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (10:09):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (10:09):
What opdp? The best and worst? The best swearing the
birds thought they were gonna craft the bed and not to.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
The clubs.
Speaker 11 (10:22):
But the worst is absolutely the Wisconsin Badgers football program. Wow,
Luke Fickle needs to go the same way as James Franklin.
Thirty seven nothing against a mediocre Iowa team at home
on homecoming. He just needs to go away.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
And you got Ohio State next week, don't you.
Speaker 11 (10:42):
Oh, that's gonna be fifty seven enough?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Oh boy, Luke Fickle.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Wasn't he rumored to be up for the Ohio State
job prior to Ryan Day when he was at Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, Paula, Yeah, the timing didn't work out, so he
left Cincinnati to go to Wisconsin, which seemed like a
great hire for Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It was lauded.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, because Wisconsin would always be there every year. It
gave us like Utah football. They were just there and
they were good and competitive, dangerous.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, Paulin, do you want to play a guest that
line Ohio State versus Wisconsin in Wisconsin?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I guess that line. I'm gonna say thirty one and
a half.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Oh, it's a little friendlier. It's twenty seven and a half. Oh, Okay,
over under is forty one and a half. Oh, which
means one team's doing most of the score.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, so that might be thirty one ten that's fair
right over under tonight exactly the same for both games.
Forty nine and a half. I'll sign up for that.
Get get a little action in there. I'll be good.
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Forty nine and a half, Bears getting five and a
half and the Bills giving four and a half against
the Falcons. Dan in Minnesota, Hi Dan, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 10 (12:07):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (12:08):
First time? Long time? Five eight, one sixty All right?
I two best of the weekends. I have absolutely no worst.
My first best is growing up in Iowa.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
The Hawkeyes beat down.
Speaker 12 (12:23):
Of the Badgers was great to see. My second best
of the week is I was able to fulfill a
ten year promise to my daughter. Took her to see
Paul McCartney at Corsefield in Denver over the weekend. And
for an eighty three year old guy to go out
and put on the show he did for three hours.
Speaker 11 (12:39):
Was amazing to see.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Awesome. I haven't seen McCartney.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I don't think I've had the opportunity where you know,
I've been in the same place where he's been. But
at eighty three, still out there and performing and ringo
Star and his band of All Stars. They still tour,
they still travel that's good. I mean, Willie Nelson's still
doing it, Bob Dylan's still doing it. Trying to think
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if there's anybody else, Springsteen, Billy Joel, but they're considered
young compared to McCartney and Willie and Dylan.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yes, PAULI do the Rolling Stones still tour or occasional
they do?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The Who just wrapped up their careers. I think they
played their last one in Vegas, had a residency there.
But I think the Stones are still playing. I don't
know if anybody you know a lot of times you
lose band members. Guys, you know, Ringo's eighty five, McCartney's
eighty three. But I'm trying to and Dylan. How old
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is Bob Dylan?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I got him eighty seven, eighty four, eighty four. It's
a shame that he can't sing like you just hear
his voice and then it shot.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
It was good at one point for it was.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Make sure you're on record, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Bob Dylan had a great melodic, great sound. Yeah, his
his lyrics, come on, how you okay? When he passes away,
You're gonna feel terrible.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
I will in that.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Voice said sorry, man, I just I can't get into that.
I hope he lives till he's one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
But you can't get into Springsteen either.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
No, because it's just a.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Coloma.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yes, if we had to say one of these artists
or bands was not good, not good, yes, or maybe
there's a better way to phrase this. We can put
Bob Dylan on there for Toddy. I'm gonna throw the
Who on.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
There, well, just because can't convince you that's me. Can't.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
As I get older, there I'm more interested in some
of their songs.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
How how about the greatest band that you don't like?
The greatest band you don't like? All right?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Oh, considered great, respected, successful, whatever?
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, so Dylan, that's a better way to say, say Springsteen,
who Stones? Yeah, Paulling. It's because of when I was born.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I never enjoyed any of Pink Floyd's music based mostly
I think of my age and I didn't get them.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
All right, Todd, the greatest who you don't like?
Speaker 7 (15:44):
We don't have to give it to the Beatles. Okay,
there's a couple of songs I like, but for the
most part, I think they're horrifically overrated, horrifically Yeah, I'm
gonna I'm all in. I'm gonna be all in on it.
I'm not gonna not gonna sugarcoated. Because there was something
new and from across the pond there, Oh my god,
who are these.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Guys with the hair doers? Well you weren't you weren't
a round at that time.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Maybe I would appreciate it more if that was like
I was a.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Teenager, and you would have talked about it'd be like
one direction coming over and then not changing the Beatles
of Vault. The Beatles changed music. They they changed music
more than any other artist in history. Different things that
they used, sounds, instruments, everything. And they weren't a big
touring band either. All right, see the best that best
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band that you don't like.
Speaker 13 (16:32):
Well, I mean I'm gonna stick with the who Okay,
that's just I like the Rolling I like Rolling Stones,
I like Beatles, I like Pink Floyd, I like Bob Dylan,
I like Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Uh oh uh, well I could throw in Grateful Dead.
I don't like the Grateful Dead. I never got the
Grateful Dead. No I tried. I just didn't get them.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And it was more than just going to see a band,
it was kind of a movement. There a thing, a scene.
Marvin best band that you don't like.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Oh, this is tough. Jimmy Hendricks, Okay, I think I personally,
I think he's a great guitar player, but I didn't
get it.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
I'm with you the Doors and Hendricks.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm like, okay, all right, because Hendricks was a great
guitar player, I didn't think, you know, great singer.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Morrison was a great front man. Yes, heavy classic rock.
All of these artists are from one era.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah my era over.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Shot a shot?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah what?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And actually what we should take from this is the
big winners are rolling stones. Nobody says they're over.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And you know he's dating a twenty eight year old
ballet or ballerina. Yeah, what's Paccino?
Speaker 6 (17:58):
And de Niro and you know, Mick, All these guys
in their eighties trying to hold on. Yes, mar having
kids too. Oh I know.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
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Ye.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
John Smoltz, Hall of Famer Baseball on Fox lead analyst
and he was on the call with Joe Davis for
the Alds, Blue Jays Yankees in the booth for the
Mariners and Jays got underway last night. First pitch tonight,
Game two from Toronto at I think five oh three
Eastern on Fox. Before I get to the baseball, we
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were just talking about respected bands, great bands, that you
don't like, and Seaton came up with the who Fritzy
does it like Springsteen or Dylan and the Beatles?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Marvin? Who was your pick? Jimmy Hendricks, Paulie Pink Floyd,
Pink Floyd? What about you? John? Respected band that you
don't like?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
You know, I'm not much of a I'm not much
a follower of that of bands. You know. I grew up,
as you know, playing the accordion, take it or leave it?
Speaker 14 (20:01):
Weird Al Yankovich, you know, I mean, he's would make
fun of the accordion.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
He was brilliant, actually, But I don't know.
Speaker 14 (20:09):
I hear a lot of people talk about Black Eyed Peas,
But I'm not a good guy to really ask when
it comes to bands.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I don't follow anybody.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
To be honest, when's the last time you played the accordion?
Speaker 14 (20:23):
I tried to play it at my daughter's wedding in May.
I was gonna we have a famous chicken dance song
that we play every wedding. My daughter did a great
job and running me. She found the cordion. You can't
find him anymore, and the key was stuck so he
couldn't play it. So it either saved me or but
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that would have been the last time. It's been a
long time.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Is that the no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's the song we kind of grew up on. Actually,
all right, let's talk baseball here. Now you've seen Seattle
in the Blue Jay. I was surprised Seattle won that game,
considering fifteen innings, going cross country, traveled issues and a
Toronto team that seemed to be on fire from what
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happened with the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
What was the big difference do you think last night?
Speaker 14 (21:19):
Well, the big difference was Toronto's offense didn't get on
base a lot, and other than the first inning, Bryce
Miller had one of the greatest games I think you'll
ever see a young man pitch given the circumstances.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Look, this is a hard team to face, and especially
at home.
Speaker 14 (21:35):
We saw the Yankees get absolutely obliterated on great pitching
by the Yankees just made it look like they'd never
pitched before. So I was a little bit surprised that
Seattle was able to hang in there on adrenaline alone.
I've been part of those long eighteen inning games come
back try to play, you know, a day and a
half later.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
It takes its toll.
Speaker 14 (21:53):
But as I said on the telecast, if they can
hang in there, adrenaline gets you through the rest of
that game. And Bryce Miller was a batter or two
away from this being an ugly game, and it turned
into an epic game because he had first pitch home run,
then runners on first and second, one out, and that's
when the crowd in Toronto and their offense gets going
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and they.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Never got another run. I don't think anyone could have
predicted that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
When do you know to take out a picture if
it's just mathematically with pitches, or I mean, how much
is gut feeling talking to the catcher, you know, getting
a sense of something more than just the analytics say
I got to pull you.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (22:35):
I think the biggest thing that gets overlooked is the
swings the hitters are putting on that pitcher. I don't
think they look at it as a direct response. They'll
look at analytics, spin or velocity or just basically say,
third time through, I'm not even gonna let them get there.
And I think the managers that in this postseason have
let their player have a moment is winning the games,
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meaning pitchers that are going into the eighth inning are
winning pictures that get taken out by fourth or fifth inning.
You start rolling the dice, and I'll be honest, the
Seattle Mariners are here because the greatest picture of our
generation was only able to go six innings. If he
goes seven innings, I don't think you can make an
argument that Seattle would be here. So they benefited from
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all that work that they put in to file off
pitches and get his pitch count up.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I was watching that game. I was shocked.
Speaker 14 (23:26):
But based on the ear, he's never pitched over one
hundred and five pitches. So Seattle is a benefactor from
what Toronto does very well and make your pitch count
go way up.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The Dodgers have been relying on their starters, but it
feels like they have to because of that bullpin.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Absolutely, it's a total flip of the script. Last year
they had no starters that they could count on, so
they relied on their bullpens guys, and they used them
and just really all of them got hurt. And now
they've established such a depth that is working in their
favor that you're seeing guys like Blake Snell first time
ever ever getting into seventh inning in a postseeding game.
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I mean that to me is like, shouldn't be a narrative,
but it is. And I think now you're seeing again pictures.
At one point it was twelve and one. The pitcher
that went longer than the other pitcher, they won the game.
I know lately it has been a couple losses, but
I think teams are going to have to trust their
starters and know that they are having a moment and
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don't look. I'll give you one sixty two analytical reasoning
and philosophy, I'll give it to you one sixty two.
It doesn't apply in a best of five and a
best of seven.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
It doesn't.
Speaker 14 (24:38):
It's just it doesn't work that way. And when you don't,
when you don't deviate, you're really running the risk of
that one sixty two model not working in a best
of seven because you never know if that one guy
is going to be on that that exceeds what he
would do in the regular season. If you'd never give
him that moment, I think you miss out.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
What were your thoughts on Dave Roberts leaving Clayton Kershaw
in or having him come back for that next inning.
Speaker 14 (25:07):
Yeah, I mean I saw from Afar. I thought that,
you know, Clayton Kersall what a moment. I just can't
even imagine the adrenaline and the rush that he was
going through. Knowing his careers over and he's had a
couple of those weird innings in postseeds in his history.
It really is hard to explain. But I think for
Dave Roberts and everything, that he believes and trusted his
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team and that was a two to oh situation. Right,
if it's two to one, I think the things are different.
I know you say, oh, it's just one game, but
in a short series that could mean the difference. I
think he trusted what his team was capable of doing,
even if that didn't go well, and it certainly didn't,
and it it proved that, you know, the next game
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they were able to handle and get that win.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do you think like there's certain trends and we've spoken
about this, that you go in and throw as hard
as you can for as long as you can, then
next man up. That's basically pitching. But when it comes
to hitting, are we going to find more teams with
their best player leading off with success with Otani Kyle Schwarber.
I don't know if you have other teams that come
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to mind that we're going to hit you right away.
I'm going to get more at bats with my guy.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
And that's where I kind of differ philosophically. One sixty two.
I get it.
Speaker 14 (26:25):
You might get thirty five to forty more at bats
and your best player, and that might win you one
to two to three baseball games, which could be the
difference for some teams in the postseason. I still don't
get that because now you're not running the same models
in a bet best a seven series. How many more
at bats is Otani gonna get it to go seven
versus the second hitter?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
And is that going to be enough to help him
win a game? Now, Toani's a freak. Let's leave him alone.
He's the leadoff hitter. He can hit for power, he
can steal.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
But I'm talking let's just talk about Schwarber, you know,
not getting him into RBI situations. You look at Toronto
and how they're built. Guerrero bats in the three spot.
It's perfect for him. Imagine if Guerrero their best hitter,
are Bulprischett their best hitter.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Is leading off. Now, all of a sudden, you in
a short series.
Speaker 14 (27:11):
As a pitcher, I have an advantage I think over
their best hitter because he's not gonna come up with
too many times with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So one sixty two again, I get it. I've never
understood it in a best of five. But that's the thing.
Speaker 14 (27:25):
They never change. So if you do it the whole
regular season, you're going to do it in the postseason.
And that's like splitting hairs a little bit for me.
But I would you imagine Barry Bonds today, he would
be leading off. Thank you, thank you for a guy
who gave up nine home runs. Thank you lead off
home run.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I don't care.
Speaker 14 (27:41):
Like those are the kind of things that in the
postseason when you're not giving your best hitter the chances
to get with runners on over the course of a season.
That's what that's my only argument about that. That narrative
that works in the one sixty two. Like Aaron Judge
batting second, he bet had in third a lot, But
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Aaron Judge is another great example of putting him in
a spot to have fear factor for runners on.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
You know, nine guys, you start your lineup the way
you want and then it never works that way the
rest of the game. I understand that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Has anybody ever asked you to autograph a ball that
you gave up for a home run like the hit her.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
As any you don't believe so so that that's no
go that you don't.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I would have done it, Oh, I would have done
it for sure.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
So Bond said, hey, you know, I hit this one
off of you. Would you autograph this?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Oh? Sure.
Speaker 14 (28:35):
Now I've seen the flip where Bond's at the All
Star Game, some pitcher came to ask him for an
autograph and he said, heck, no, you hit me twice.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I signed and nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We're working on some Hall of Fame resumes. Dale Murphy,
Steve Garvey, Don Maddingly, Yeah, anybody else, anybody else?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Steve Garvey was a ten time All Star, Johnny.
Speaker 14 (28:58):
Yeah, no, Steve Garvey was. I mean, when I think
of the Dodgers, I think of Steve Garby when I
grew up watching, you know, the seventies in the early eighties.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
But they're all worthy.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
And you know, I'm partial obviously to Dale Murphy and
what he did and how he did it was such
bad baseball teams, you know. I mean, that's one thing
that people don't take into consideration. Then of course you
got Andrew Jones coming up, who I think is surefire
Hall of Fame player who's yet to get in. But
Don Mattingly is one of the guys that everybody who
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from New York talks about and how good he was,
and if he could have stayed healthier, the numbers he
would have put up, he would have thrived in today's era.
And that argument goes, I'll argue anybody that the Tony Gwinns,
the guys who did not hit for power, could have
thrived today because they don't swing, you know, from their
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dairy air, and they would get on base a lot more.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
But they would be swinging differently, John, because they would
be brought up differently. Tony gwyn would sure brought up
you got to swing hard, Wade Bogs, Rodkrue. Unfortunately, they
would be told, hey, this is what the analytics say.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
True, unless they have the special gift like an arise
like there are we're seeing a shift. It's slow.
Speaker 14 (30:14):
But the Toronto Blue Jays and the Milwaukee Brewers are
not flukes. And why they're here, They put the ball
in play, they don't strike out. If you look at
the last twenty five World Series champions, you're not going
to find three of them that are in the top
ten in my memory that we're leading the league in
strikeouts or in top ten of strikeouts. It's hard to do.
I know home runs are king, and I get it.
But when you can combine the both, which Toronto does
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and Milwaukee does, it changes how team plays against you.
It changes the narrative of you're going to have to
work harder to get Toronto Blue Jays from eliminating them
from the series.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I've been saying that put the ball in play, get
a walk, take an extra base, steal a bit like
all of these different things, and Milwaukee has done that.
They don't have star power, but it feels like they're
going to always be testing you and you're not. They're
not waiting for a beginning. It's just we're gonna it's
uh death by water torture. It's going to be drip, drip, drip, drip.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
No doubt.
Speaker 14 (31:13):
And we've already seen a game and unfortunately the young
you know, pitcher for Philadelphia. When you put the ball
in play, you never know what's going to happen. But
when you swing in this, you know what's going to happen,
and it's nothing, and and and again one sixty two.
They don't care how many strikeouts there are. But in
a postseason game, man, man on third, I've seen it.
We've seen the fifteen inning game. Just make contact. Game
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over couldn't do it. And I think for Milwaukee that's
what makes them special. And they run, they field, they
have great arms, and they basically have drafted players that
fit the Mint narrative of how they're going to play,
and that's why they Nobody, there is not one expert,
not one baseball expert, said Milwaukee, you have the best
record in baseball leaving spring training.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Not one.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Did you cry at your daughter's wedding?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
I did not. I did not, but I tell you
it was I had two of them this year, so
one more coming up in November.
Speaker 14 (32:06):
But I definitely if I would have cried, if I'd
have played the accordion probably.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
See I got three daughters. There is no way I
can get through this without crime.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
No.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Well, I've been very fortunate to have some really good
son in laws and that helps.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And maybe you didn't care about your daughters as much
as I care about mine, so you're kind of.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
A good part.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yeah, yeah, you were happy to get them out of
the house.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I understand it. Don I understand it? Hey, have fun
on the call. Tell Joe we said hello and thanks
for joining us. Oh well, thanks Dan, all right, nks
John Smoltz, a nineteen ninety five World Series champ with
the Braves, and of course Hall of Famer. First pitch Tonight,
Game two from Toronto, five three Eastern on Fox. We'll
take a break, Last call for phone calls?
Speaker 6 (32:56):
What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? This day in
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Speaker 1 (32:59):
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Speaker 6 (33:12):
What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Is my math correct? Fifteen days ago, Penn State was
rank number three in the country. That sound about right, Siri? Yes,
fully yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
After week five, they were ranked third in the country
and had received five first place votes.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I like so, yeah, it's not scripted, just letting you
know this. This show is not scripted or we're geniuses.
Play the day's.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Stat of the day, brought to you by Penni America,
the official trading cards of the program.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
And we'll be at Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Outside of Legends Bar Pub and that'll be Thirday and Friday.
First come, first serve, standing room only. That sounds like
we could say, oh, they're giving us a standing ovation.
Maybe we're not able to get chairs for you. But
standing room only makes it sound like there will be
people seated and there's only standing. It's only standing room,
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standing ovations only, standing room only. Todd, do you have
what headlines for tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I know we like to do the Monday night football headlines.
I just threw a couple together. If anybody wants to
chime in, I've got for the bills and falcons. I
just threw this together. Dirty birds wings get covered in
buffalo sauce, dirty bird's wings.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
No, no, I got it. We don't have to pause
on every one.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
And the other bills.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Falcons was a Pennix. Can't arouse them falcons offense?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And then I had a couple of that's why you
didn't send it to PAULI, that's probably why. Yes, Okay,
let me hear the Chicago do you have to do
the Penix one all the time.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Wasn't the exact one take, but there's always a take
off on a Pennix envy, I think a lot. Yeah,
was different, Okay, Chicago Watcher taking command Jaden Jettison's bears
into hibernation and capital offense in DC A bad loss
for the win d City.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Okay, you're happy most of my best work, but no, no,
but you got to do it.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Yeah, I like to do the little headline thing.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
No, you reminded me.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You you reminded me, and then you dropped the paper
right in front of me, and then, oh, there's my
mock headline.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
I didn't want you to trip and fell on the floor.
It looked like you were to slip on the paper.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Thank you, Todd. Jeff in Widby Island, Hi, Jeff, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (35:33):
Every gambling down?
Speaker 12 (35:34):
That?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
HOWI doing great?
Speaker 15 (35:35):
Us best and worse the weekend? First of all, Seattle
Mariners would be is on is just northeast of Seattle
and spent half my half my time here. But he'd
become a big fan of them and the Seahawks for
that matter, so it was good weekend for them. Grew
up in Chicago, Coubbies loss with the potential for Coubbi's
and Mariners World Series. And I also have a dog
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that was going to sing a belated birthday. I tried
to get get through on Todd's birthday last week.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
I was unable to, so I don't.
Speaker 15 (36:06):
I can't sing as well Todd does God forbid us all.
But I gotta do that to get him going, and
then he'll start singing.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Okay, okay, your dog is name is his name is Oliver? Oliver.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Okay, So here's Jeff and Oliver singing a happy birthday
belated to Fritzy all the way from Whidby Island.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Right here we go, right okay, okay.
Speaker 15 (36:29):
Birthday two, Happy Birthday.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
Happy.
Speaker 10 (36:53):
He usually does much much better than.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That, Jeff, were you stepping on Oliver's Paul felt like
he was kind of he was screeching.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
He wasn't really singing.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
He rolled out, he rolled over, so he he what
he does.
Speaker 15 (37:07):
He marks a little bit and he starts howling like
a coyote, which is he's a little terrier mutt. But
it's funny when he really gets into it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, it could have been, but thank you, thank you, Jeff.
Big build up, and I thought we were going to
have all right, it's gonna be one of those great moments.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I thought that counts. It was very cool.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
You know what, maybe the dog did not want to
sing Happy Birthday to you.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
It's very possible, but he's got his little pass whole
dog sweater on.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Probably probably stepped on his paw to get him, just
to make some noises there Don in Virginia.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Hi, Don, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Hey guys, what's happening?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I don't know. Don help me.
Speaker 10 (37:46):
All right. Let me start out with saying five eleven
two o five and as far as a popular band
that a lot of people love that, I don't mineus Metallica.
The lyrics are it's just way too nihilistic for me.
I find Kirk Hambis to be a fantastic guitar player,
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but songs.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Like Fade to Black and One.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
Is just too dark and nihilistic for me.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I've just never really been into it.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Thank you, Don.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, I wasn't a Metallica guy, but I you know,
I was a little bit older, so i'd already had
heavy metal bands or you know, rock and roll bands.
Some Metallica came along and I'd be like, yeah, it's nice,
but there's other bands that preceded them that are a
whole lot better in my opinion, just.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
My humble opinion. Let's see this Dane sports history, Paul,
Just a couple for you.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
In nineteen sixty the World Series ended on a home
run for the first time. Bill Mazeroski, bottom of the
ninth Pirates beat the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
This is one for you, Dan.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Nineteen sixty seven, the first game of the new ABA
was played. Pat Boone, the owner of the Oakland Oaks,
sang the national anthem, and in nineteen ninety eight, the
NBA canceled regular season games due to a work stoppage.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
The team that the Oakland Oaks played in the first
ABA game was the Anaheim Amigos. The Anaheim Amigos, they're
not around anymore. Jaff in West Virginia, Hi, Jeff first time.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
Long time six one, two forty and a couple. Best
for the weekend Seattle Detroit Friday night. Man, what a
heavyweight fight. It felt like watching them a boxing match
thirty years ago from the other side of the world
and you had to stay up late to see what happened.
And then of course Indiana going to Oregon on Saturday
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and beating the Ducks. You know, non biased view on this.
I'm not a fan of any of these teams, but
they were just great matchups to watch. And then then
the worst of the week is really just the craziness
of college football. I mean, James Franklin, you just said it.
They were number one, they were top ranked a few
weeks ago, and thirteen to three last year. Now he's
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looking for a job.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, but that's just college football now, because things change
so rapidly, and you're going to get teams that weren't
great teams before or traditionally great teams, and they're going
to get a couple of players or somebody going to
spend some money transfer portal. I mean, they got a
great quarterback Mendoza, probably the leading candidate for the Heisman,
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where you get him transferring in and maybe he's a
top ten draft pick. So these things change quickly, and
that's what we've seen. Let's go around the room. What
we learned, Todd would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (40:35):
John Smoltz doesn't really follow bend. He's more of an
accordion type guy.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Seatan, What did you learn I'm sneaky massive? Yeah all right, yes, Mark?
What did you learn? Morvin?
Speaker 8 (40:47):
The Steelers have a nice personality, but they're not hot.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Paul John Smoltz doesn't like music. Todd, What did I
learn today?
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Gustin la loved USC taking down Michigan and says when
the Cowboys lose, America wins.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Thank you. I hope you had a great day, or
hope you're going to have a great day. Hope we
helped you have a great day.