December 10, 2025 • 41 mins
The "Voice of the SEC" Paul Finebaum calls the CFP committee a "clown show," and insists Miami earned its spot. Dan dissects the rookie QB class this year and looks ahead to what teams will be targeting quarterbacks at the top of next year's draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We'll get two more phone calls coming up. The big
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story Philip Rivers is on the practice squad, not on
the roster, and that's a big difference here. He is
a semi finalist for the Hall of Famer Hall of Fame.
If he gets on the roster then he has to
win eight five years to be involved in the process
to be voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
That would be the earliest that he could. Notre Dame,
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the ACC, Big Twelve, their commissioners, the athletic director going
back and forth, jabbing one another over Notre Dame, Notre
Dame's comments. What happened with the ACC and the ACC
didn't stick up for Notre Dame, and Notre Dame is
frosty about that, and they may take their balls and
go home and join another conference. Don't know. Now you
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get the Big Twelve involved in this as well. So
it's good fun little content there. Pole question for the
final hour the program is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, let me get you some results here, as we've
just thrown a couple up, not literally thrown up.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mentioned a couple of point spreads that changed. The
Vikings are now getting five and a half against the
Cowboys they were getting six, the Chargers getting four and
a half against the Chiefs they were getting three and
a half.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, Paul, I was looking at the odds after you
ran through them. If Philip Rivers, let's say, hypothetically, became
the starting quarterback this weekend, would it make the Coltots
better or worse?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't think it'd move as is thirteen and a half.
That's a lot. It's thirteen and a half no matter
who's quarterbacking. Packers are at the Broncos and the Packers
are favored by two and a half. The Bills are
at the Patriots, and the Bills are favored by one
and a half. Very interesting betting lines there. The Falcons
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at the Buccaneers. Falcons are getting four and a half.
That's a must must win for Tampa. That's Thursday night.
I'm wondering, man, it feels like Atlanta's going to have
a coaching change. Feels like it. And there's a couple
of teams that feels like they're going to have a
coaching change. Falcon's certainly one of those teams. The Browns
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against the Bears. The Browns are getting seven and a half.
I mean, I don't know if Kevin Stefanski, who's been
I think two time Coach of the Year, but there
seems to be this thought, that prevailing thought that Kevin
Stefanski somehow doesn't want Shadoor Sanders to play, even though
Shaudoor Sanders gives Kevin Stefanski a better chance to hold
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onto his job because Shadoor Sanders puts more of a
fear or threat into the defense. Because he can throw
the long ball. I mean, he can make some plays.
And look, is he a starting quarterback? I don't know yet,
but I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say
yes he is or no he isn't. He's got a
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couple of games here that he's going to go against
some suspect defenses, and he can put up some good
numbers here. The Bears defense isn't great. They play Buffalo,
that defense isn't great. They play Cincinnati, that defense isn't great.
He's got a chance to put up some decent numbers here.
And maybe, you know, here's a couple of scenarios to
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factor in. If the Browns are in a position to
take a quarterback that they really love and they have
two first round draft picks, Shadoor Sanders may play himself
into a position where he gets traded where he could
play for somebody else. Yeah, once again, I go back
to where I thought he was going to end up
with the Raiders. I thought they were going to draft him.
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Maybe that could be a scenario. You know, as the
Raiders move on from Geno Smith, they're probably going to
have a coaching change as well. But he might build
up enough of a sample size where the Browns say,
Fernando Mendoza is too good to pass up, or whoever,
that quarterback Dante Moore might be too good to pass up,
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and we're going to have Shador. Now, you do have
the Deshaun Watson situation where he's gonna come back next year. Now,
I don't know if you have him as a backup,
you have him on the rock. I don't know salary cap,
dead cap money, any of the implications there, but that
is a possibility. I think for Shadoor Sanders, is he
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good enough for them to not take a quarterback?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Pauling Giants had the number one draft pick as of today,
they will not take a quarterback. The Raiders right now
have the number two pick. Gino Smith is under contract
next year guaranteed twenty six million dollars, but that's it.
After next year they can get out from him. So
that could be a situation. Tennessee has the third pick.
Can't imagine drafting a quarterback again. Brown's had the fourth
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pick as of now, the Browns also have in the
trade for Travis Hunter the Jacksonville pick, which is now
at twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, it's gonna be tough to bypass a quarterback, I think.
But maybe Shoudoor plays well enough and he's he should
play well against these defenses coming out, and maybe maybe
they don't take a quarterback. Maybe they do have their
quarterback there. I think that would be kind of the
interesting thing to watch and watch the game. Don't look
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at highlights, don't look at stats, because you don't get
a full feeling maybe appreciation sometimes for quarterbacks, well players
for that, you know, you know, if we're gonna expand it,
watching a player play an entire game gives you, you know,
a fuller feel instead of looking at highlights, because you
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can go, man, he look great. Well there are times
and you can really look great, and then there are
times that you don't look great. You have seven highlights,
but then you have all the other plays where you
don't look that good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
See, the Shadura has the problem now where he's being
judged on a throw by throw basis. It isn't even
game to game, it's every single throw that he makes.
Told you he's good enough. Told you he wasn't good enough.
It's every single play that he makes is either just
obviously proof that he could do this or proof that
he's not ready or not able to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, and the media hasn't helped him out because that
feels like, you know, now, I don't know if Shannon
Sharp was goofing around or you know, being you know,
kind of sarcastic, but he said, oh, you know, if
I'm shod or Sanders, I say, hey, I'm not playing
these final four games against these teams. You put in
Dylan Gabriel and I thought, well, why wouldn't you want
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him to play against these defenses? And then he did
come back on his show with Ocho Sinko saying, oh,
it was just sarcasm. I'm like, okay, yeah, PAULI so.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Many, like Seet said, so many in the media cherry
pick his good plays are bad plays to serve their narrative,
not to recap the entire game.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, it's about okay, I told you you can't throw. Oh,
I told you he's athletic. I told you he's not.
You know that he's under the microscope. It's just he's
either going to be a starting quarterback or he's going
to be a Tim Tebow where it's going to be
tough to put him on the roster because unless you
have a great quarterback in front of him, you're always
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going to be saying, well, why, hey, you're gonna put
Shador in. No coach wants that. I mean, we saw Stefanski.
He didn't want that. And for what I'm told, he
knew that Dylan Gabriel was ready sooner, but he was
not as good. He didn't have the arm that Shador has.
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And even somebody I know says, you know, Shador has
a long way to go, but he has shown progress,
which is what you want. He's a rookie quarterback. But
we've spent way too much time on him and zero
time on cam Ward cam Warden does Nobody talks about
cam Warden. He was a number one overall pick and
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he does make throws where you go, now, that's a guy.
If you look at the highlights, you go wow. Watch
the game. Now, granted he's on a bad team, but
watch the game and he acts like a rookie quarterback.
But with Shador Sanders, it is throw by throw, and
that's unfortunate because I want to see what he can do,
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but it feels like everybody's using his play, good or bad,
for their narrative, for their agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, Paul cam Ward's last month as a starter four touchdowns,
one pick, quietly improving.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, he's all right, nothing great. He'll make a couple
of great throws. But I mean he's not Jaden Daniels.
You know, people even looking at Caleb Williams. The Bears
are succeeding, but they're doing that maybe in spite of
Caleb Williams. They're running the football that should help Caleb
Williams be a really good quarterback like he should be
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at this point, a really good or good quarterback, consistent quarterback,
and most coaches will take that. I just want my
quarterback to be consistent. I don't want that highs and lows,
the ebb and flow here, not at that position. Yeah, Mart, how.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Come we didn't talk about cam Ward Moore because he
went to the U. It's not like he went to
some small He didn't come out of some small school.
Was it? The chador shadow was just so big he
just loomed over everybody else in the draft?
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes. Leading up to the draft, it was all, well,
they're going to take cam word and then we moved on.
That was it and he kind of came out of nowhere.
Now he had other stops where he's successful, but you know,
Washington State incarnate word and then you go to the
U and then you're like, oh, okay, mean played well,
but there was nothing where you We're like, oh my god.
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You know Dion, you know created this because of you
know him. You had Shador, and Shador played at a
pretty high level and then you had the Heisman Trophy
winner as well at Colorado. But I mean, have we
talked about Travis Hunter? Did we talk about him before
he got injured? Very little? Very little? But that is
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really a peek into what this sports business has evolved into.
Who gets clicks. It's not is that the right story
to cover, It's who gets clicks and clicks wins. That's
how That's how things are programmed. And you know, it's
unfortunate because there are good stories that just don't get covered.
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And I can be guilty of that as well. But
then there are times when the Cowboys are relevant or
Schdor Sanders is relevant, and then you cover them appropriately.
It's not how do we go out of our way
to talk about Lebron or I mean, I go back
to what Skip Bayless used to do. And look, I
think what Skip did was brilliant at the time because
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he's saying, more people care about the Cowboys one way
another than any other topic, more people care about Lebron
one way or another than any other topic. And he
would play the hits every single day, so when you
tuned in, you knew he was talking about the Cowboys
or Lebron one way another and you would have an opinion. Now,
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there are other stories to cover, but Skip did this
before anybody did this. He programmed it how he wanted to,
and it was like you're playing the same four or
five songs over and over and over and over and over. Yeah, Paul,
the peak of this.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And I'm not going to name names or shows, but
there's a show that celebrated Tim Tebow's birthday like it
was a national holiday. It was August fourteenth, the football
season even started. It wasn't even like a relevant topic.
I remember sitting here with you guys, like they're doing
three segments on Tim Tebow's birthday and his future in
the sport.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It was mid August.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, we should have done four segments on that. And
you know what, that drove Tim Tebow out of the NFL.
When you think about it, you couldn't have him as
a backup quarterback because if Dan you had to cut him. Oh,
how can you cut him? He's Tim Tebow. Well, this
is what the media does. You make him so powerful.
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Tim couldn't start in the NFL. But he could have
been maybe a tight end, maybe emergency third string quarterback.
Maybe he could have been a Taysom Hill. But he
didn't want that. And you know, the narrative was, no,
they're not giving Tim a chance. Okay, Tim wasn't a
good NFL quarterback. He made you know, t bow time,
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but it felt like he's the one that made t
bow time because he didn't do anything prior to t
bow time and then he'd have a big play and
you go that t BO t BO time. This ain't
Florida where you're surrounded by NFL players. He was a
great college quarterback, but there's big difference.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You could scramble out of you know, Tim would always
do that. You scramble out of pressure, and you're in college.
NFL can't do that, but you know, you're always hyping him.
Therefore everybody, well, why didn't Tim Tebow plan, which he's
better than that guy? Well, now he wasn't.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, Marvin, we should to say the same thing about
Cam Newton because Cam Newton was such a big star
and a big person. Nowadays, there's no way he could
be the backup. We used to call it the Cam camp.
Anytime somebody the starter with the interception, Hey, pan the
camera right to Cam Newton.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
See what his reaction is.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, when he was in New England, you're like, put
him in? Why don't you put Cam in? And you
can't miss him on the sidelines. But yeah, we you
know the media and I get it. It's it's ratings driven.
You want people watching, you want people listening. I understand that.
I just hope that some stories don't fall to the wayside,
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that stories that should be brought to light. Michael in Oregon,
Hey Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Hey Dan, first time caller, Actually, and I just pulled
your TV show for the first time too, Six feet
to ten. I wanted to comment on your lasers on
top of the goalpost yep. And what a conundrum that
would cause because when the ball goes obviously through the laser.
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Is it going to right and through the uprights for
a field goal? Or is it doinking? Lest and no good?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh, I haven't thought that out.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We shouldn't let smart people call it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, Michael, I'm not. I just come up with ideas,
that's all. What do you do with the doink? What's
a doink sound like off a laser? Yeah? Well maybe
if you put the lasers on the outside. Therefore, if
it touches the laser, then that's a doink, then it doesn't.
(15:32):
I don't know, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I would have failed physics completely. But I think if
you put the laser right in the middle of the
center circumference of the goal post and shot upwards, if
it hits the laser, that means it was going out
or coming back right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Why don't we just built Yeah, see, you can't do
that in the wind and goal posts and you know,
the higher up it goes. And maybe maybe we shouldn't
do the lasers. It sounded like a good idea two
hours ago. All right, we'll take a break. Paul Finebaum,
he's on fire calling Notre Dame crybabies. How would Paul
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
More phone calls coming up. I think Shaq's going to
join us tomorrow or Friday. Rob Gronkowski not sure if
it's tomorrow or Friday as well. You know, one of
the things I love about Paul Finbaum is I'm never
quite sure where he stands on a topic. You know,
he's usually very neutral. So when he says that the
committee got it right, and the crying from Notre Dame
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is quite frankly embarrassing they cried, they didn't get their way,
and then they said, you know, we're going home. We're
taking our ball like a five year old on the
playground by not going to a bull game. Why did
they get it right? Because Notre Dame had very little
to show on its resume. Had they joined the ACC,
which they, by the way, are a member of in
every other sport, they would have played for the ACC
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championship game. Paul Finbaumb of the Mothership joining us on
the program, you're a little fired up about Notre Dame.
What drew your ire?
Speaker 11 (17:55):
Yeah, but I have a correction, Dan, in the ACC,
Notre Dame is a member I think also in field hockey.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
So let me make sure I tell America that, Dan,
you've been around Notre Dame a lot.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
And I spent most of Monday on ESDN talking about
your interview with the AD and I think if he
had stopped there it would have been great. He went
on a big platform, he told it, told his told
everybody off. But then he continued to talk, and he
talked himself into a corner and ultimately Notre Dame's resume
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is good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It's not great. Is this committee good?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
No?
Speaker 11 (18:36):
No, I mean, it was a clown show. We all
know that, and they changed the rules as they went along.
But ultimately I still felt Miami deserved to be in
Did Alabama? Should Alabama have made it?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
I said that, and it's because I live in Alabama
and I have a Nick Saban fat head in my bedroom.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
It's because I.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Because I believe that they should not have been eliminated
by playing an extra game. But you know all that
Notre Dame is the story of the week and was
the one thing I don't understand that Pete said here
and later at a press conference he made all these threats.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What has he done since making all these threats. Well,
I think that's on. I think that's coming up in January.
I think there'll be something that's happening. I think it
was smart to say, hey, we're going to you know, huddle,
and we're going to figure out what our next move is.
I thought they were too reactionary, you know, when the
kids said we're not going to play in a bowl game.
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I think if they gave them a couple of days
to think about it. Even Pete's reaction when you know,
we reached out and he said yeah, come on, and
then all of a sudden he said there's permanent damage.
I think if he would have stopped and said, hey,
explain to me how we're ahead of this team for
five weeks and then all of a sudden it gets
to the final, you know, the day of reckoning, and
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then they leap for Augus playing that to me, I
think we all could have understood that if that happened
to Alabama. How would you react if Alabama was ahead
of Miami for five weeks and then Miami leapfrog them.
How would Greg Sanke, the commissioner of the SEC, reacted
to something like that. So there, I thought he was right.
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I understand that, But he didn't stay with that. He
you know, he expounded upon it, and I think that's
where everybody focused on all Notre Dame cry baby, take
your ball and go home.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Dan, had been.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
Alabama, I would have been on the I'm the footsteps
of the Capitol calling for a federal investigation, of course,
and I would have been crashing the back gate at
the White House.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
But but and I agree, I was on.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
First take down the down the dial. Uh when when
the story broke about your interview, and I like, oh
my goodness. I mean this sounded like a major break,
but two days later found in fury signifying nothing, here
we are.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
But that's okay. Uh, It's been the story.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Of the week and and Notre Dame got this, you know,
continued to be in the news. And by the way,
it's about it's about the most relevancy has had at
least since last year's National Championship game. They've taken the
attention off Marcus Freeman. Maybe looking around at the.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
NFL, well, you know who is happy about this is
Lane Kiffin. Oh yeah, if the spotlight shifted off Lane Kiffin,
he's like a coast is clearer? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Maybe not, though I think we both know Lane well
enough to know that he sticks up every morning and
if his Twitter mentioned starts to go down, he's upset.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He's letting his coaches coach for old Like I'm trying
to understand this from old missus perspective that you don't
want Lane, but you'll take his coaches. Why not a
clean break.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
It.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
It's pretty obviously just did not trust Lane and.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
I don't want to get in trouble with Nick Saban,
but the president was really set in twenty sixteen. Everybody
knows what happened. And Kiffin was on the Alabama staff.
He got hired by Florida Atlantic and he remained, but
he was he.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Did such a poor job.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
I had several people come up to me this weekend
in Atlanta and say, yeah, I was on the field
with Kiffen and Kiffin. I mean during a practice, not
after practice, not during warm up. Kiffen's over there in
the corner on the phone, trying to get his coaching
staff together.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
He was not paying.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
Attention, and Saban got so fed up he fired him.
But then Saban was out there saying, oh, Lane should
be at ole Miss. And I think the all Missed
people just did not want that. They didn't believe that
Kiffen could be trusted with. I think the passwords to
the computer where all the secrets were, with recruiting.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
And everything else, even though he had just been there
the day before.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
It was a mess. But it's Lane Kiffin, and you
always expect, you know, some theatrics.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Did old Miss ever have a chance here, No, I.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Don't think so.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
I mean, Lane Kiffen is like is like that girlfriend
in high school. You walk into the party and she's
looking right over your shoulder at a quarterback. I mean,
Lane never can be. He's been looking for years. Three
years ago he almost took the Auburn job, just close.
Two years ago he wanted the Alabama job, but he
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never got a call. And last year he was I
think he was already packing to go down to Florida,
and Lane screwed that one enough. He took his Old
Miss team down to Florida and lost, which saved Billy
Day for Your's job. But by the time he got
the mid season, he knew Florida was going to be open.
But the real moment that occurred was when Brian Kelly
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got fired. Kiffen's, Oh my goodness, I could actually have
that job, which which is a better job than Florida.
That's a better job than Ole Miss. That's not really
you don't need me to say that. Nick Saban told
him that, because Nick Saban has told a lot of
people that, I mean, Nick Saban had this love affair
with LSU, but he couldn't He couldn't stay there because
he had so many NFL openings. But he never quite
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got over it. Even though he only won six national
championships at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Where is Lane Kiffen In five years, he might.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Still be in LFU, but he's going to have to
win a national championship. But I would think ultimately he'll
move on. I don't know if Lane goes back to
the NFL at some point. I mean, I think now
that al Davis has been dead and varied for a
number of years, I think the reverberations from that are over.
But I think ultimately he's just never going to be
happy anywhere. But I think he could get a national
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championship at LSU. Dan, stop me if you've heard this before,
but Less Miles and at Oseron both won national championships
at L two. The two of us could walk in
off the street and win a national championship down there.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Paul Finebaum hosts of The Paul Finebaum Show Monday through
Friday on SEC Network from three to seven Eastern. What
kind of changes do we have in the off season
with college football?
Speaker 11 (25:06):
Well, guess they're going to have a meeting Dan, probably
at a five star resort somewhere near the near the
southern calum Mexican border, so it's warm in the winter,
and they'll retool the CFP. They'll put in a couple
of tweaks that don't make any sense, but that's going.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
To be the big one. They've already made most of
the rules.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
The transfer portal is now back to January so the
ball season doesn't get overwhelmed the ball season that I
think they're still looking for people to play in a
bowl game. But ultimately this Notre Dame ACC conversation is
going to dominate once they start meeting again in January.
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But I should have just said nothing's going to change.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go so long.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Could you see Notre Dame saying, you know what, We're
going to go into the Big Ten with all of
our sports and we will play a limited schedule, a
partial schedule with the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
It could happen now.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
They had that contract with the ACC, and I'm sure
some of the bluster by Pete was to get out
of that, and I'm sure at some point the ACC
is going to let them go. But yeah, the SEC
and the Big Ten would probably be more than happy
to fill in that role. But I think the Big
Ten's where they belong, even on a limited schedule. It's
good for TV I'm sure Fox would and all the
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seventeen other networks that the Big Ten is on would
would love to do a five game schedule, especially with
Ohio State and Michigan and some of the bigger names
in the Big Ten, because that's really all they do
in the ACC And and they went in and tweaked
it where now they're playing the better. They're not just
playing wake Forest anymore. They're playing Clemson in Miami and
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the schools that matter.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You believe in Indiana, Yes, it's taken me.
Speaker 11 (26:54):
I am the I mean, it's too late to get
on the bandwagon. I've missed that and also ran over
my foot. But yes, I believe in that. I mean
that was I did not. I mean, I think that's
pretty well known. But I mean, I'm I'm half blind,
but I'm entirely blind. I can see how good they are.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's one of the great stories though in recent college football.
I mean, based off the history and you know when
we were growing up Indiana. I mean, it's losing his
program in college football. And to do this in a
two year period any stage, and.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
To think about this Saturday night in New York during
that just fantastic Heisman show, which I know you're a
big fan of tune in at age fifty seven and
you have not missed anything.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
By the way, the fact that Indiana.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
And Vanderbilt are two of the four schools represented among
the finalists is pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah yeah, I mean when you think about it growing up,
Vandy was always the and such and such one by
over Vandy. Indiana, Io State beats Indiana fifty five to nothing,
and here you have two Heisman candidates there. Pretty amazing.
Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Mean I used to cover Alabama games when people were
really intent on the final series, and that was whether
Alabama covered the forty two points spread against Vanderbilt or not.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you have anything nice to say about anybody today? Dan?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Can I get back to you on that?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yes, you can, Thank you, Paul. That's Paul Finbaum, Voice
of the SEC Paul Finbaum Show, every Monday through Friday
on SEC Network three to seven Eastern Snarky. Let's see
Brooks in Florida. Hi Brooks, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (28:50):
Hey? Dan? Thanks for taking my call. I had two comments.
One on the college football Playoff.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
I'm thinking, why don't we let Vegas just handle the
rankings and get.
Speaker 14 (28:59):
Rid of the committee because Vegas tells you who's the
better team anyways.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, and we've brought that up before. I forget
what the reason that I think it made people uncomfortable
if Vegas was running college football. But they're the most objective,
like they have the most to lose in this scenario,
millions and millions of dollars. But thank you Brooks. Uh yeah,
we we've mentioned that before. Uh Bucky in Illinois, Hi, Buck,
(29:27):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (29:29):
Hey d D thanks for taking my call? Quick comment?
Speaker 12 (29:32):
And then I got a poll question.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
For you and the dan at.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
Quick comment about the college football playoff if you're if
you're from the American or you're from the Dumbbelt conference
and you're gonna make the college football playoffs like you
automatically have to be undefeated to get in in my opinion.
But quick quick poll question for you in the Danette.
Speaker 15 (29:53):
Okay, I see, as a senior college football player, would
you rather go to a Division III school, win the
Gagleardi Trophy and win a national championship? Or would you
rather go and ride the bench for an Ohio State
and win a national championship that way?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, so you get to be a bench player for
Ohio State win a national championship, But I don't get
a scholarship at Ohio State. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 13 (30:24):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Probably not okay, because if I got a scholarship at
Ohio State, I'm going to take that because then I'm
I got my school paid for. You go Division three,
you got to pay for it. You see yourself. You
get a little financial aid, yes, Marton, But.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
If you're on scholarship as an athlete at Ohio State,
you would want to play somewhere else because you were
probably all states somewhere. So you're not going to go
to Ohio State just to say the bench, just to
say I went to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Right, depends on if you grew up in Ohio and
you want to be an Ohio State Buckeye and just
ride the bench. I don't Yeah, maybe I don't know.
The Division three I love watching that. I love watching
the smaller schools play for championships and you know, you
get it's it's always fun to see those schools and
(31:14):
how much it means to them and the fact North
Dakota State is out. That's South Dakota State, I think
is out as well. So it's wide open there in
the FBS. Yes, Marvin, no, no, no, I was shaking my head.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
I was green.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Division three Final four this weekend, Dan, I know you're watching.
But it's John Carroll versus Barry Wheaton versus UW.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
River Falls. That's some heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, some new Yeah, like UW Whitewater's out, Mount Union's out.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Fresh blood.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
John Carroll used to be I think the Don Shula
went to John Carroll. I believe, I believe. But they
used to be a football powerhouse.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Yes, Marvin, I did have one question, Okay pole question,
Ohio State or D three? That's a big jump. Maybe
Ohio State one double A or something like that. But
you can't you set the bench at Ohio State or
you play D three.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So would you rather go to North Dakota State and
play for them and win a national championship or be
a bench player at Ohio State and they won a
national championship play at North Dakota State. I'd rather play
at North Dakota State. I mean that's a high level. Yes, Todd,
would you play.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
For Wheaton if you can't tolerate gluten.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Thank you, Todd? Yes, uh, Paul.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I don't know I should let that stay?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah you should? I should, Yeah, I would distance myself.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
How about with Jake break last call for full I
didn't know Todd was here today? Okay, situation, Hey, but
they're paying shame way we do?
Speaker 13 (32:44):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Huh? The look on Lou Holtz's face when I did
my Lou Holtz impersonation to him. That did not go
well as it shouldn't have. What my it's my impersonation?
Pretty good? Oh Dan?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
The more real it is, the worse it is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh correct, So I'm asking was it a good imperson Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay,
think that's all I cared about. J S. Troy Jay
put their pants on streame way week.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
He was bothered by the JC he did.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
He said, first of all, chirch, I'll chay like I'm
not saying that word. Never take the Lord's leaving Jane,
Oh my gosh. Okay. But aside from that, how did
it sound?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hey, put their pants? Shame way we do?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
How about we take a break last call for phone calls?
What we learn what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Right after this?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. Rob Gronkowski will be on the show tomorrow.
Updated MVP odds according to DraftKings, Matthew Stafford has a
little separation between him and Drake May.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's a two QB race. Then it's Jordan Love down
the list, and then it's Josh Allen after that. So
it's Matthew Stafford or Drake May. May the best man
win Super Bowl odds. By the way, the two best
odds are out of the same division, the Rams and
the Seahawks, and then you have the Packers. So the
top three are all from the NFC. Then the next
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three are from the AFC, Bills, Patriots, Broncos. Then it's
the Eagles and the Texans. So kind of interesting. Let
me see. Also, you have Army Navy coming up this weekend.
I think Navy is favored by six against Army.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes, Paul I got the preseason NFL MVP odds and
Matthew Stafford was thirty five to one. Drake May is
not on the top fifty board, ahead of matt Stafford,
where Perty Stroud, Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Etcetera, etc. Etc. Alrighty, I got more phone calls in here, Curtis,
and Illinois's back, Hi Curtis, what's on your mind? I
got Army favored by six against Navy or no getting
six and the over under's thirty eight and a half
thirty eight and a half, Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
Worn a dp got a pseudo solution for your field
goal problem instead of using the lasers. Every other goal
in sports isn't open ended like that, So why don't
we just put another crossbar on the top and you
have to make it through the rectangle? And then if
you wanted to make it even more difficult, instead of
(35:36):
just having it where these guys can kick fifty sixty yards,
why don't we put a net on the field goal
posts and put a target in the middle that's worth
three points. And if you don't get it on that target,
but you still make it within, you only get.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Two Savannah bananas.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't want to get to that point, Okay, I
mean it was kind of a whimsical suggestion to have
lasers up there on the goalpost. That's all you can
raise the goalpost up two feet. Yes, Todd, you can't
turn into a carnival.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Then you're going to shoot their water into the clown's
mouth and win the prize. Come on targets in certain
parts of it, that's gonna locate.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Thank you, Tod.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Joshua North Dakota, Hi josh what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (36:20):
Hi? Dan Dans five two fifty. I just have to say,
as a proud ndsu alum, I love that you're talking
about my buys and low heard and the dynasty will continue.
But I know you talked about it earlier. You were
talking about Cleveland or these other teams. A team that I,
as Giants fam would be looking at is the Rams.
(36:41):
Excuse me, but with Matthew Stafford year to year, Matthew
Stafford year to year, would the Rams want to trade
up and take a guy like Mendoza, Because if you
look at it, you can have him sit behind Stafford
and then you can pay that defense when or as
Mendoza on a rookie deal, then if you're the Giants,
(37:02):
you're still with that set six and take a top
receiver and then you have all kinds of flexibility at
the end of the first round.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, I think we initially thought I did that this
might be the last year for Stafford, and then they
go into the draft and they get themselves a quarterback.
I don't the way Stafford's playing and protecting him, I mean,
it's probably going to be your MVP. I don't know
if he walks away from that. It's a good team.
(37:30):
You got a lot of talent there, so I don't
know if it's one of those situations where all of
a sudden you get that they have to start thinking
about that. And if you do that now, because if
you're Stafford, you're like, don't waste any of those picks.
I mean, we could use more picks with talent that
(37:51):
can help us win again, you know, if they win
the Super Bowl. But he's been healthy. That was the
one thing that prevented me from picking the Rams year
was I didn't think Stafford would be healthy enough, and
he certainly proved me wrong. This day in sports history,
Paul I got a couple for you. The NL in
nineteen nineteen voted the band spitballs by pitchers.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Nineteen seventy two, the AL voted to adopt the designated
hitter rule in a three year experiment and they kept
it lastly. Oh no, Michael vick and seven was sentenced
at twenty three months in prison.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Twenty sixteen, Lamar Jackson the youngest player to win the Heisman.
He was nineteen years of age. Same day, twenty twelve,
Johnny Manziel the first freshman to win the Heisman. I
guess red shirt freshman, although it says first freshman. Also
on this date, in two thousand and two, Michael Jordan
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and Scottie Pippen played against one another for the first
and only time. Scotty was with Portland and Mike was
with the Wizards. They both scored were fourteen points as
Portland ended up winning that game. I did not remember that.
I did not know that. Allen in Syracuse, Hi, Allen,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (39:12):
Dan Dannette's first time long time six foot two hundred Syracuse,
and I just wanted to kind of help out with
the idea of this poll between bright and the bench
at Ohio State or being the best player in Division three.
But you were talking about North Dakota State. I believe
(39:34):
that's what we used to call Division two and Division
three is much smaller schools like Cortland and Ithaca College
in New York, both of whom have won Division three nationals.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well it was one double a right, yes, D one
and then it was one double a absolutely yeah, well
thank you out. Yeah. Division three, Yeah, I'm well aware
of Division three. University of Dayton won a national title
in football and Division three. They beat Ithaca I think
(40:06):
it was seventy seven to nothing. And then they said
to Dayton, you can't beat Division three anymore because you
have a Division one basketball team. So they had to
get out of Division three football because they thought it
was an unfair recruiting advantage for the Dayton Flyers. But
I think they beat Ithaca College something like seventy seven
to nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yes, Paul, I think you said one time you wish
you went D Three's who had the green light?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Oh yeah, yeah. I would have taken the green light
on the court off the court Mount Union, and I
didn't get the green light on the quarter off the court, Yes, Tom, And.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You know the Vegas pointsman was seventy six and a
half back.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
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We'll get two more phone calls coming up. The big
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story Philip Rivers is on the practice squad, not on
the roster, and that's a big difference here. He is
a semi finalist for the Hall of Famer Hall of Fame.
If he gets on the roster then he has to
win eight five years to be involved in the process
to be voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
That would be the earliest that he could. Notre Dame,
(01:08):
the ACC, Big Twelve, their commissioners, the athletic director going
back and forth, jabbing one another over Notre Dame, Notre
Dame's comments. What happened with the ACC and the ACC
didn't stick up for Notre Dame, and Notre Dame is
frosty about that, and they may take their balls and
go home and join another conference. Don't know. Now you
(01:29):
get the Big Twelve involved in this as well. So
it's good fun little content there. Pole question for the
final hour the program is going to be what seedon?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, let me get you some results here, as we've
just thrown a couple up, not literally thrown up.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mentioned a couple of point spreads that changed. The
Vikings are now getting five and a half against the
Cowboys they were getting six, the Chargers getting four and
a half against the Chiefs they were getting three and
a half.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, Paul, I was looking at the odds after you
ran through them. If Philip Rivers, let's say, hypothetically, became
the starting quarterback this weekend, would it make the Coltots
better or worse?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't think it'd move as is thirteen and a half.
That's a lot. It's thirteen and a half no matter
who's quarterbacking. Packers are at the Broncos and the Packers
are favored by two and a half. The Bills are
at the Patriots, and the Bills are favored by one
and a half. Very interesting betting lines there. The Falcons
(02:34):
at the Buccaneers. Falcons are getting four and a half.
That's a must must win for Tampa. That's Thursday night.
I'm wondering, man, it feels like Atlanta's going to have
a coaching change. Feels like it. And there's a couple
of teams that feels like they're going to have a
coaching change. Falcon's certainly one of those teams. The Browns
(03:01):
against the Bears. The Browns are getting seven and a half.
I mean, I don't know if Kevin Stefanski, who's been
I think two time Coach of the Year, but there
seems to be this thought, that prevailing thought that Kevin
Stefanski somehow doesn't want Shadoor Sanders to play, even though
Shaudoor Sanders gives Kevin Stefanski a better chance to hold
(03:22):
onto his job because Shadoor Sanders puts more of a
fear or threat into the defense. Because he can throw
the long ball. I mean, he can make some plays.
And look, is he a starting quarterback? I don't know yet,
but I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say
yes he is or no he isn't. He's got a
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couple of games here that he's going to go against
some suspect defenses, and he can put up some good
numbers here. The Bears defense isn't great. They play Buffalo,
that defense isn't great. They play Cincinnati, that defense isn't great.
He's got a chance to put up some decent numbers here.
And maybe, you know, here's a couple of scenarios to
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factor in. If the Browns are in a position to
take a quarterback that they really love and they have
two first round draft picks, Shadoor Sanders may play himself
into a position where he gets traded where he could
play for somebody else. Yeah, once again, I go back
to where I thought he was going to end up
with the Raiders. I thought they were going to draft him.
(04:27):
Maybe that could be a scenario. You know, as the
Raiders move on from Geno Smith, they're probably going to
have a coaching change as well. But he might build
up enough of a sample size where the Browns say,
Fernando Mendoza is too good to pass up, or whoever,
that quarterback Dante Moore might be too good to pass up,
(04:48):
and we're going to have Shador. Now, you do have
the Deshaun Watson situation where he's gonna come back next year. Now,
I don't know if you have him as a backup,
you have him on the rock. I don't know salary cap,
dead cap money, any of the implications there, but that
is a possibility. I think for Shadoor Sanders, is he
(05:09):
good enough for them to not take a quarterback?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Pauling Giants had the number one draft pick as of today,
they will not take a quarterback. The Raiders right now
have the number two pick. Gino Smith is under contract
next year guaranteed twenty six million dollars, but that's it.
After next year they can get out from him. So
that could be a situation. Tennessee has the third pick.
Can't imagine drafting a quarterback again. Brown's had the fourth
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pick as of now, the Browns also have in the
trade for Travis Hunter the Jacksonville pick, which is now
at twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, it's gonna be tough to bypass a quarterback, I think.
But maybe Shoudoor plays well enough and he's he should
play well against these defenses coming out, and maybe maybe
they don't take a quarterback. Maybe they do have their
quarterback there. I think that would be kind of the
interesting thing to watch and watch the game. Don't look
(06:03):
at highlights, don't look at stats, because you don't get
a full feeling maybe appreciation sometimes for quarterbacks, well players
for that, you know, you know, if we're gonna expand it,
watching a player play an entire game gives you, you know,
a fuller feel instead of looking at highlights, because you
(06:25):
can go, man, he look great. Well there are times
and you can really look great, and then there are
times that you don't look great. You have seven highlights,
but then you have all the other plays where you
don't look that good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
See, the Shadura has the problem now where he's being
judged on a throw by throw basis. It isn't even
game to game, it's every single throw that he makes.
Told you he's good enough. Told you he wasn't good enough.
It's every single play that he makes is either just
obviously proof that he could do this or proof that
he's not ready or not able to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, and the media hasn't helped him out because that
feels like, you know, now, I don't know if Shannon
Sharp was goofing around or you know, being you know,
kind of sarcastic, but he said, oh, you know, if
I'm shod or Sanders, I say, hey, I'm not playing
these final four games against these teams. You put in
Dylan Gabriel and I thought, well, why wouldn't you want
(07:17):
him to play against these defenses? And then he did
come back on his show with Ocho Sinko saying, oh,
it was just sarcasm. I'm like, okay, yeah, PAULI so.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Many, like Seet said, so many in the media cherry
pick his good plays are bad plays to serve their narrative,
not to recap the entire game.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, it's about okay, I told you you can't throw. Oh,
I told you he's athletic. I told you he's not.
You know that he's under the microscope. It's just he's
either going to be a starting quarterback or he's going
to be a Tim Tebow where it's going to be
tough to put him on the roster because unless you
have a great quarterback in front of him, you're always
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going to be saying, well, why, hey, you're gonna put
Shador in. No coach wants that. I mean, we saw Stefanski.
He didn't want that. And for what I'm told, he
knew that Dylan Gabriel was ready sooner, but he was
not as good. He didn't have the arm that Shador has.
(08:18):
And even somebody I know says, you know, Shador has
a long way to go, but he has shown progress,
which is what you want. He's a rookie quarterback. But
we've spent way too much time on him and zero
time on cam Ward cam Warden does Nobody talks about
cam Warden. He was a number one overall pick and
(08:40):
he does make throws where you go, now, that's a guy.
If you look at the highlights, you go wow. Watch
the game. Now, granted he's on a bad team, but
watch the game and he acts like a rookie quarterback.
But with Shador Sanders, it is throw by throw, and
that's unfortunate because I want to see what he can do,
(09:00):
but it feels like everybody's using his play, good or bad,
for their narrative, for their agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, Paul cam Ward's last month as a starter four touchdowns,
one pick, quietly improving.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, he's all right, nothing great. He'll make a couple
of great throws. But I mean he's not Jaden Daniels.
You know, people even looking at Caleb Williams. The Bears
are succeeding, but they're doing that maybe in spite of
Caleb Williams. They're running the football that should help Caleb
Williams be a really good quarterback like he should be
(09:35):
at this point, a really good or good quarterback, consistent quarterback,
and most coaches will take that. I just want my
quarterback to be consistent. I don't want that highs and lows,
the ebb and flow here, not at that position. Yeah, Mart, how.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Come we didn't talk about cam Ward Moore because he
went to the U. It's not like he went to
some small He didn't come out of some small school.
Was it? The chador shadow was just so big he
just loomed over everybody else in the draft?
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes. Leading up to the draft, it was all, well,
they're going to take cam word and then we moved on.
That was it and he kind of came out of nowhere.
Now he had other stops where he's successful, but you know,
Washington State incarnate word and then you go to the
U and then you're like, oh, okay, mean played well,
but there was nothing where you We're like, oh my god.
(10:25):
You know Dion, you know created this because of you
know him. You had Shador, and Shador played at a
pretty high level and then you had the Heisman Trophy
winner as well at Colorado. But I mean, have we
talked about Travis Hunter? Did we talk about him before
he got injured? Very little? Very little? But that is
(10:47):
really a peek into what this sports business has evolved into.
Who gets clicks. It's not is that the right story
to cover, It's who gets clicks and clicks wins. That's
how That's how things are programmed. And you know, it's
unfortunate because there are good stories that just don't get covered.
(11:11):
And I can be guilty of that as well. But
then there are times when the Cowboys are relevant or
Schdor Sanders is relevant, and then you cover them appropriately.
It's not how do we go out of our way
to talk about Lebron or I mean, I go back
to what Skip Bayless used to do. And look, I
think what Skip did was brilliant at the time because
(11:33):
he's saying, more people care about the Cowboys one way
another than any other topic, more people care about Lebron
one way or another than any other topic. And he
would play the hits every single day, so when you
tuned in, you knew he was talking about the Cowboys
or Lebron one way another and you would have an opinion. Now,
(11:57):
there are other stories to cover, but Skip did this
before anybody did this. He programmed it how he wanted to,
and it was like you're playing the same four or
five songs over and over and over and over and over. Yeah, Paul,
the peak of this.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And I'm not going to name names or shows, but
there's a show that celebrated Tim Tebow's birthday like it
was a national holiday. It was August fourteenth, the football
season even started. It wasn't even like a relevant topic.
I remember sitting here with you guys, like they're doing
three segments on Tim Tebow's birthday and his future in
the sport.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It was mid August.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, we should have done four segments on that. And
you know what, that drove Tim Tebow out of the NFL.
When you think about it, you couldn't have him as
a backup quarterback because if Dan you had to cut him. Oh,
how can you cut him? He's Tim Tebow. Well, this
is what the media does. You make him so powerful.
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Tim couldn't start in the NFL. But he could have
been maybe a tight end, maybe emergency third string quarterback.
Maybe he could have been a Taysom Hill. But he
didn't want that. And you know, the narrative was, no,
they're not giving Tim a chance. Okay, Tim wasn't a
good NFL quarterback. He made you know, t bow time,
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but it felt like he's the one that made t
bow time because he didn't do anything prior to t
bow time and then he'd have a big play and
you go that t BO t BO time. This ain't
Florida where you're surrounded by NFL players. He was a
great college quarterback, but there's big difference.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You could scramble out of you know, Tim would always
do that. You scramble out of pressure, and you're in college.
NFL can't do that, but you know, you're always hyping him.
Therefore everybody, well, why didn't Tim Tebow plan, which he's
better than that guy? Well, now he wasn't.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, Marvin, we should to say the same thing about
Cam Newton because Cam Newton was such a big star
and a big person. Nowadays, there's no way he could
be the backup. We used to call it the Cam camp.
Anytime somebody the starter with the interception, Hey, pan the
camera right to Cam Newton.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
See what his reaction is.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, when he was in New England, you're like, put
him in? Why don't you put Cam in? And you
can't miss him on the sidelines. But yeah, we you
know the media and I get it. It's it's ratings driven.
You want people watching, you want people listening. I understand that.
I just hope that some stories don't fall to the wayside,
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that stories that should be brought to light. Michael in Oregon,
Hey Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Hey Dan, first time caller, Actually, and I just pulled
your TV show for the first time too, Six feet
to ten. I wanted to comment on your lasers on
top of the goalpost yep. And what a conundrum that
would cause because when the ball goes obviously through the laser.
(14:59):
Is it going to right and through the uprights for
a field goal? Or is it doinking? Lest and no good?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh, I haven't thought that out.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We shouldn't let smart people call it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, Michael, I'm not. I just come up with ideas,
that's all. What do you do with the doink? What's
a doink sound like off a laser? Yeah? Well maybe
if you put the lasers on the outside. Therefore, if
it touches the laser, then that's a doink, then it doesn't.
(15:32):
I don't know, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I would have failed physics completely. But I think if
you put the laser right in the middle of the
center circumference of the goal post and shot upwards, if
it hits the laser, that means it was going out
or coming back right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Why don't we just built Yeah, see, you can't do
that in the wind and goal posts and you know,
the higher up it goes. And maybe maybe we shouldn't
do the lasers. It sounded like a good idea two
hours ago. All right, we'll take a break. Paul Finebaum,
he's on fire calling Notre Dame crybabies. How would Paul
(16:10):
feel if this happened to Alabama in the SEC find
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
More phone calls coming up. I think Shaq's going to
join us tomorrow or Friday. Rob Gronkowski not sure if
it's tomorrow or Friday as well. You know, one of
the things I love about Paul Finbaum is I'm never
quite sure where he stands on a topic. You know,
he's usually very neutral. So when he says that the
committee got it right, and the crying from Notre Dame
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is quite frankly embarrassing they cried, they didn't get their way,
and then they said, you know, we're going home. We're
taking our ball like a five year old on the
playground by not going to a bull game. Why did
they get it right? Because Notre Dame had very little
to show on its resume. Had they joined the ACC,
which they, by the way, are a member of in
every other sport, they would have played for the ACC
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championship game. Paul Finbaumb of the Mothership joining us on
the program, you're a little fired up about Notre Dame.
What drew your ire?
Speaker 11 (17:55):
Yeah, but I have a correction, Dan, in the ACC,
Notre Dame is a member I think also in field hockey.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
So let me make sure I tell America that, Dan,
you've been around Notre Dame a lot.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
And I spent most of Monday on ESDN talking about
your interview with the AD and I think if he
had stopped there it would have been great. He went
on a big platform, he told it, told his told
everybody off. But then he continued to talk, and he
talked himself into a corner and ultimately Notre Dame's resume
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is good.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It's not great. Is this committee good?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
No?
Speaker 11 (18:36):
No, I mean, it was a clown show. We all
know that, and they changed the rules as they went along.
But ultimately I still felt Miami deserved to be in
Did Alabama? Should Alabama have made it?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
I said that, and it's because I live in Alabama
and I have a Nick Saban fat head in my bedroom.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
It's because I.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Because I believe that they should not have been eliminated
by playing an extra game. But you know all that
Notre Dame is the story of the week and was
the one thing I don't understand that Pete said here
and later at a press conference he made all these threats.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What has he done since making all these threats. Well,
I think that's on. I think that's coming up in January.
I think there'll be something that's happening. I think it
was smart to say, hey, we're going to you know, huddle,
and we're going to figure out what our next move is.
I thought they were too reactionary, you know, when the
kids said we're not going to play in a bowl game.
(19:36):
I think if they gave them a couple of days
to think about it. Even Pete's reaction when you know,
we reached out and he said yeah, come on, and
then all of a sudden he said there's permanent damage.
I think if he would have stopped and said, hey,
explain to me how we're ahead of this team for
five weeks and then all of a sudden it gets
to the final, you know, the day of reckoning, and
(19:58):
then they leap for Augus playing that to me, I
think we all could have understood that if that happened
to Alabama. How would you react if Alabama was ahead
of Miami for five weeks and then Miami leapfrog them.
How would Greg Sanke, the commissioner of the SEC, reacted
to something like that. So there, I thought he was right.
(20:19):
I understand that, But he didn't stay with that. He
you know, he expounded upon it, and I think that's
where everybody focused on all Notre Dame cry baby, take
your ball and go home.
Speaker 12 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Dan, had been.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
Alabama, I would have been on the I'm the footsteps
of the Capitol calling for a federal investigation, of course,
and I would have been crashing the back gate at
the White House.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
But but and I agree, I was on.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
First take down the down the dial. Uh when when
the story broke about your interview, and I like, oh
my goodness. I mean this sounded like a major break,
but two days later found in fury signifying nothing, here
we are.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
But that's okay. Uh, It's been the story.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Of the week and and Notre Dame got this, you know,
continued to be in the news. And by the way,
it's about it's about the most relevancy has had at
least since last year's National Championship game. They've taken the
attention off Marcus Freeman. Maybe looking around at the.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
NFL, well, you know who is happy about this is
Lane Kiffin. Oh yeah, if the spotlight shifted off Lane Kiffin,
he's like a coast is clearer? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Maybe not, though I think we both know Lane well
enough to know that he sticks up every morning and
if his Twitter mentioned starts to go down, he's upset.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
He's letting his coaches coach for old Like I'm trying
to understand this from old missus perspective that you don't
want Lane, but you'll take his coaches. Why not a
clean break.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
It.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
It's pretty obviously just did not trust Lane and.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
I don't want to get in trouble with Nick Saban,
but the president was really set in twenty sixteen. Everybody
knows what happened. And Kiffin was on the Alabama staff.
He got hired by Florida Atlantic and he remained, but
he was he.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Did such a poor job.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
I had several people come up to me this weekend
in Atlanta and say, yeah, I was on the field
with Kiffen and Kiffin. I mean during a practice, not
after practice, not during warm up. Kiffen's over there in
the corner on the phone, trying to get his coaching
staff together.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
He was not paying.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
Attention, and Saban got so fed up he fired him.
But then Saban was out there saying, oh, Lane should
be at ole Miss. And I think the all Missed
people just did not want that. They didn't believe that
Kiffen could be trusted with. I think the passwords to
the computer where all the secrets were, with recruiting.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
And everything else, even though he had just been there
the day before.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
It was a mess. But it's Lane Kiffin, and you
always expect, you know, some theatrics.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Did old Miss ever have a chance here, No, I.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Don't think so.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
I mean, Lane Kiffen is like is like that girlfriend
in high school. You walk into the party and she's
looking right over your shoulder at a quarterback. I mean,
Lane never can be. He's been looking for years. Three
years ago he almost took the Auburn job, just close.
Two years ago he wanted the Alabama job, but he
(23:29):
never got a call. And last year he was I
think he was already packing to go down to Florida,
and Lane screwed that one enough. He took his Old
Miss team down to Florida and lost, which saved Billy
Day for Your's job. But by the time he got
the mid season, he knew Florida was going to be open.
But the real moment that occurred was when Brian Kelly
(23:49):
got fired. Kiffen's, Oh my goodness, I could actually have
that job, which which is a better job than Florida.
That's a better job than Ole Miss. That's not really
you don't need me to say that. Nick Saban told
him that, because Nick Saban has told a lot of
people that, I mean, Nick Saban had this love affair
with LSU, but he couldn't He couldn't stay there because
he had so many NFL openings. But he never quite
(24:10):
got over it. Even though he only won six national
championships at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Where is Lane Kiffen In five years, he might.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Still be in LFU, but he's going to have to
win a national championship. But I would think ultimately he'll
move on. I don't know if Lane goes back to
the NFL at some point. I mean, I think now
that al Davis has been dead and varied for a
number of years, I think the reverberations from that are over.
But I think ultimately he's just never going to be
happy anywhere. But I think he could get a national
(24:41):
championship at LSU. Dan, stop me if you've heard this before,
but Less Miles and at Oseron both won national championships
at L two. The two of us could walk in
off the street and win a national championship down there.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Paul Finebaum hosts of The Paul Finebaum Show Monday through
Friday on SEC Network from three to seven Eastern. What
kind of changes do we have in the off season
with college football?
Speaker 11 (25:06):
Well, guess they're going to have a meeting Dan, probably
at a five star resort somewhere near the near the
southern calum Mexican border, so it's warm in the winter,
and they'll retool the CFP. They'll put in a couple
of tweaks that don't make any sense, but that's going.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
To be the big one. They've already made most of
the rules.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
The transfer portal is now back to January so the
ball season doesn't get overwhelmed the ball season that I
think they're still looking for people to play in a
bowl game. But ultimately this Notre Dame ACC conversation is
going to dominate once they start meeting again in January.
(25:49):
But I should have just said nothing's going to change.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go so long.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Could you see Notre Dame saying, you know what, We're
going to go into the Big Ten with all of
our sports and we will play a limited schedule, a
partial schedule with the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
It could happen now.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
They had that contract with the ACC, and I'm sure
some of the bluster by Pete was to get out
of that, and I'm sure at some point the ACC
is going to let them go. But yeah, the SEC
and the Big Ten would probably be more than happy
to fill in that role. But I think the Big
Ten's where they belong, even on a limited schedule. It's
good for TV I'm sure Fox would and all the
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seventeen other networks that the Big Ten is on would
would love to do a five game schedule, especially with
Ohio State and Michigan and some of the bigger names
in the Big Ten, because that's really all they do
in the ACC And and they went in and tweaked
it where now they're playing the better. They're not just
playing wake Forest anymore. They're playing Clemson in Miami and
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the schools that matter.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You believe in Indiana, Yes, it's taken me.
Speaker 11 (26:54):
I am the I mean, it's too late to get
on the bandwagon. I've missed that and also ran over
my foot. But yes, I believe in that. I mean
that was I did not. I mean, I think that's
pretty well known. But I mean, I'm I'm half blind,
but I'm entirely blind. I can see how good they are.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's one of the great stories though in recent college football.
I mean, based off the history and you know when
we were growing up Indiana. I mean, it's losing his
program in college football. And to do this in a
two year period any stage, and.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
To think about this Saturday night in New York during
that just fantastic Heisman show, which I know you're a
big fan of tune in at age fifty seven and
you have not missed anything.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
By the way, the fact that Indiana.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
And Vanderbilt are two of the four schools represented among
the finalists is pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah yeah, I mean when you think about it growing up,
Vandy was always the and such and such one by
over Vandy. Indiana, Io State beats Indiana fifty five to nothing,
and here you have two Heisman candidates there. Pretty amazing.
Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Mean I used to cover Alabama games when people were
really intent on the final series, and that was whether
Alabama covered the forty two points spread against Vanderbilt or not.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you have anything nice to say about anybody today? Dan?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Can I get back to you on that?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yes, you can, Thank you, Paul. That's Paul Finbaum, Voice
of the SEC Paul Finbaum Show, every Monday through Friday
on SEC Network three to seven Eastern Snarky. Let's see
Brooks in Florida. Hi Brooks, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (28:50):
Hey? Dan? Thanks for taking my call. I had two comments.
One on the college football Playoff.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
I'm thinking, why don't we let Vegas just handle the
rankings and get.
Speaker 14 (28:59):
Rid of the committee because Vegas tells you who's the
better team anyways.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, and we've brought that up before. I forget
what the reason that I think it made people uncomfortable
if Vegas was running college football. But they're the most objective,
like they have the most to lose in this scenario,
millions and millions of dollars. But thank you Brooks. Uh yeah,
we we've mentioned that before. Uh Bucky in Illinois, Hi, Buck,
(29:27):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (29:29):
Hey d D thanks for taking my call? Quick comment?
Speaker 12 (29:32):
And then I got a poll question.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
For you and the dan at.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
Quick comment about the college football playoff if you're if
you're from the American or you're from the Dumbbelt conference
and you're gonna make the college football playoffs like you
automatically have to be undefeated to get in in my opinion.
But quick quick poll question for you in the Danette.
Speaker 15 (29:53):
Okay, I see, as a senior college football player, would
you rather go to a Division III school, win the
Gagleardi Trophy and win a national championship? Or would you
rather go and ride the bench for an Ohio State
and win a national championship that way?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, so you get to be a bench player for
Ohio State win a national championship, But I don't get
a scholarship at Ohio State. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 13 (30:24):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Probably not okay, because if I got a scholarship at
Ohio State, I'm going to take that because then I'm
I got my school paid for. You go Division three,
you got to pay for it. You see yourself. You
get a little financial aid, yes, Marton, But.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
If you're on scholarship as an athlete at Ohio State,
you would want to play somewhere else because you were
probably all states somewhere. So you're not going to go
to Ohio State just to say the bench, just to
say I went to Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Right, depends on if you grew up in Ohio and
you want to be an Ohio State Buckeye and just
ride the bench. I don't Yeah, maybe I don't know.
The Division three I love watching that. I love watching
the smaller schools play for championships and you know, you
get it's it's always fun to see those schools and
(31:14):
how much it means to them and the fact North
Dakota State is out. That's South Dakota State, I think
is out as well. So it's wide open there in
the FBS. Yes, Marvin, no, no, no, I was shaking my head.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
I was green.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Division three Final four this weekend, Dan, I know you're watching.
But it's John Carroll versus Barry Wheaton versus UW.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
River Falls. That's some heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, some new Yeah, like UW Whitewater's out, Mount Union's out.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Fresh blood.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
John Carroll used to be I think the Don Shula
went to John Carroll. I believe, I believe. But they
used to be a football powerhouse.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Yes, Marvin, I did have one question, Okay pole question,
Ohio State or D three? That's a big jump. Maybe
Ohio State one double A or something like that. But
you can't you set the bench at Ohio State or
you play D three.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So would you rather go to North Dakota State and
play for them and win a national championship or be
a bench player at Ohio State and they won a
national championship play at North Dakota State. I'd rather play
at North Dakota State. I mean that's a high level. Yes, Todd,
would you play.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
For Wheaton if you can't tolerate gluten.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Thank you, Todd? Yes, uh, Paul.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I don't know I should let that stay?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah you should? I should, Yeah, I would distance myself.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
How about with Jake break last call for full I
didn't know Todd was here today? Okay, situation, Hey, but
they're paying shame way we do?
Speaker 13 (32:44):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Huh? The look on Lou Holtz's face when I did
my Lou Holtz impersonation to him. That did not go
well as it shouldn't have. What my it's my impersonation?
Pretty good? Oh Dan?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
The more real it is, the worse it is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh correct, So I'm asking was it a good imperson Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay,
think that's all I cared about. J S. Troy Jay
put their pants on streame way week.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
He was bothered by the JC he did.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
He said, first of all, chirch, I'll chay like I'm
not saying that word. Never take the Lord's leaving Jane,
Oh my gosh. Okay. But aside from that, how did
it sound?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hey, put their pants? Shame way we do?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
How about we take a break last call for phone calls?
What we learn what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Right after this?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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Updated MVP odds according to DraftKings, Matthew Stafford has a
little separation between him and Drake May.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's a two QB race. Then it's Jordan Love down
the list, and then it's Josh Allen after that. So
it's Matthew Stafford or Drake May. May the best man
win Super Bowl odds. By the way, the two best
odds are out of the same division, the Rams and
the Seahawks, and then you have the Packers. So the
top three are all from the NFC. Then the next
(34:23):
three are from the AFC, Bills, Patriots, Broncos. Then it's
the Eagles and the Texans. So kind of interesting. Let
me see. Also, you have Army Navy coming up this weekend.
I think Navy is favored by six against Army.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes, Paul I got the preseason NFL MVP odds and
Matthew Stafford was thirty five to one. Drake May is
not on the top fifty board, ahead of matt Stafford,
where Perty Stroud, Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Etcetera, etc. Etc. Alrighty, I got more phone calls in here, Curtis,
and Illinois's back, Hi Curtis, what's on your mind? I
got Army favored by six against Navy or no getting
six and the over under's thirty eight and a half
thirty eight and a half, Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
Worn a dp got a pseudo solution for your field
goal problem instead of using the lasers. Every other goal
in sports isn't open ended like that, So why don't
we just put another crossbar on the top and you
have to make it through the rectangle? And then if
you wanted to make it even more difficult, instead of
(35:36):
just having it where these guys can kick fifty sixty yards,
why don't we put a net on the field goal
posts and put a target in the middle that's worth
three points. And if you don't get it on that target,
but you still make it within, you only get.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Two Savannah bananas.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't want to get to that point, Okay, I
mean it was kind of a whimsical suggestion to have
lasers up there on the goalpost. That's all you can
raise the goalpost up two feet. Yes, Todd, you can't
turn into a carnival.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Then you're going to shoot their water into the clown's
mouth and win the prize. Come on targets in certain
parts of it, that's gonna locate.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Thank you, Tod.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Joshua North Dakota, Hi josh what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (36:20):
Hi? Dan Dans five two fifty. I just have to say,
as a proud ndsu alum, I love that you're talking
about my buys and low heard and the dynasty will continue.
But I know you talked about it earlier. You were
talking about Cleveland or these other teams. A team that I,
as Giants fam would be looking at is the Rams.
(36:41):
Excuse me, but with Matthew Stafford year to year, Matthew
Stafford year to year, would the Rams want to trade
up and take a guy like Mendoza, Because if you
look at it, you can have him sit behind Stafford
and then you can pay that defense when or as
Mendoza on a rookie deal, then if you're the Giants,
(37:02):
you're still with that set six and take a top
receiver and then you have all kinds of flexibility at
the end of the first round.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, I think we initially thought I did that this
might be the last year for Stafford, and then they
go into the draft and they get themselves a quarterback.
I don't the way Stafford's playing and protecting him, I mean,
it's probably going to be your MVP. I don't know
if he walks away from that. It's a good team.
(37:30):
You got a lot of talent there, so I don't
know if it's one of those situations where all of
a sudden you get that they have to start thinking
about that. And if you do that now, because if
you're Stafford, you're like, don't waste any of those picks.
I mean, we could use more picks with talent that
(37:51):
can help us win again, you know, if they win
the Super Bowl. But he's been healthy. That was the
one thing that prevented me from picking the Rams year
was I didn't think Stafford would be healthy enough, and
he certainly proved me wrong. This day in sports history,
Paul I got a couple for you. The NL in
nineteen nineteen voted the band spitballs by pitchers.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Nineteen seventy two, the AL voted to adopt the designated
hitter rule in a three year experiment and they kept
it lastly. Oh no, Michael vick and seven was sentenced
at twenty three months in prison.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Twenty sixteen, Lamar Jackson the youngest player to win the Heisman.
He was nineteen years of age. Same day, twenty twelve,
Johnny Manziel the first freshman to win the Heisman. I
guess red shirt freshman, although it says first freshman. Also
on this date, in two thousand and two, Michael Jordan
(38:49):
and Scottie Pippen played against one another for the first
and only time. Scotty was with Portland and Mike was
with the Wizards. They both scored were fourteen points as
Portland ended up winning that game. I did not remember that.
I did not know that. Allen in Syracuse, Hi, Allen,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (39:12):
Dan Dannette's first time long time six foot two hundred Syracuse,
and I just wanted to kind of help out with
the idea of this poll between bright and the bench
at Ohio State or being the best player in Division three.
But you were talking about North Dakota State. I believe
(39:34):
that's what we used to call Division two and Division
three is much smaller schools like Cortland and Ithaca College
in New York, both of whom have won Division three nationals.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well it was one double a right, yes, D one
and then it was one double a absolutely yeah, well
thank you out. Yeah. Division three, Yeah, I'm well aware
of Division three. University of Dayton won a national title
in football and Division three. They beat Ithaca I think
(40:06):
it was seventy seven to nothing. And then they said
to Dayton, you can't beat Division three anymore because you
have a Division one basketball team. So they had to
get out of Division three football because they thought it
was an unfair recruiting advantage for the Dayton Flyers. But
I think they beat Ithaca College something like seventy seven
to nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yes, Paul, I think you said one time you wish
you went D Three's who had the green light?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Oh yeah, yeah. I would have taken the green light
on the court off the court Mount Union, and I
didn't get the green light on the quarter off the court, Yes, Tom, And.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You know the Vegas pointsman was seventy six and a
half back.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
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Speaker 3 (40:54):
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