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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour on this Monday, we'll check in with the
NBA Finals, also recap what happened at Oakmont US Open.
Steve SAMs from Golf Channel will join us. We'll catch
up with the former NBA coach PJ. Carlamis Carlissimo working
for the Mothership covering the NBA Finals tonight. Thunder at
the Pacers Game five OKC is favored by nine and
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Poll question for the final hour of the programs Seaton.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Going back to a classic here, would you bet a
finger versus a million dollars? That Shoheo Tani will win
the NL MVP. Hmmm, finger v million? Okay, so I
lose a finger if he doesn't win the MVP. Yeah,
but you get a million dollars if he does.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
All right, who would put up a finger? Paully and
Seaton Todd? You wouldn't put up a finger that Otani
is gonna win the MVP. I'm not gonna do that,
all right, tax three million dollars?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Oh, tax free.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Now I'm gonna hold on to my digits.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Marvin, I'll losing not my thumb, but you're gonna lose
a pinky, fine with me?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, okay, you do that. Okay, so there's three of you.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yes, Paul, I will not double down necessarily, but I'll
go finger of your choice. That's how sure?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I hmmm?
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Which is that's like the double down of the fingerbat?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I might do that with Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I just once again, you have to have that guy
who's having a year that's comparable. Nobody's having a year
comparable to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, seton what are the corporatelyales of crowdfunding a million
dollars versus Paul's finger of his choice?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I think we'd have to run that past management in
some fashion.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, I'm managing it. Yeah, I agree, I greenlighted, green light.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
All right, I'll get I'll start working on the social.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's bring in PJ. Carlissimo, ESPN, NBA Studio Analysts, ESPN
Game Analysts, PJ.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
How are you excellent?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
DP?
Speaker 7 (02:25):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm feeling like Shay gilgis Alexander right now.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
You should be feeling great.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Man, Help me understand. Three minutes to go on Friday
night and he takes over. Indiana knows he's taken over,
and you still can't stop him.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Why he's a He's a really tough combination, the size,
the ball, handling, he's got the middle game. I don't
want to say he's a good three point show. He's
a decent three point show. He made the only three
in the entire fourth quarter. I kept saying that Marcuestershire
during the game. If OKC doesn't makes some threes, they
can't win this game. And they didn't. But Shay made
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one that really mattered down the stretch. He wants the ball.
He's herky, jerky, he just he's like he reminds me
a little bit of pac Man years ago. Like he
doesn't straight line anything. He goes over, sideways around the guy.
He gets in front of a player, he stops, he
initiates contact. He's got that forearm out a lot. You know,
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the other team is always gonna cry, hey, he created
the contact, his defender didn't. He just he can get
basically wherever he wants to get. It's usually the mid
range jumper, and then not always in late game situations.
He's a really good passer. He sees the rest of
the floor. So the rest of the game he'll involve
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his team. And I'm not saying he won't pass it
at the end, but if it's a big enough shot,
he knows he's supposed to take it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
What went wrong with the Pacers?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Rick carlosle used the word stat which was interesting.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
But he is obviously lead by seven points after three quarters,
and not that there's always a correlation, but in the
first three games they owned the fourth quarter. They were
the best fourth quarter team in the first three games
of the playoff. So you're sitting there between the third
and fourth quarter and thinking, boy, Indiana is in really
good shape. I thought one thing happened that kind of
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got lost in the shuffle. On the OKC side, Chet
Holmgren and Alex Caruso scored the first nine points, like
it went from eighty seven to eighty to eighty nine,
eighty nine, and it was all Alex Caruso and Cheded Holmgren.
Chet had six, Ac had three, and boom, like right away,
this big advantage, it was gone. So now we're starting
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all over. It's an even game. Rick thought they got
sped up a little bit. They weren't popping the ball
around as much. It was sticking. They obviously weren't making threes,
which early on had been their bread and butter in
that game, so it kind of got away from them.
I don't want to say they lost their composure, but
they certainly didn't play with the confidence and with the
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purpose on the offensive end, especially the other thing. I
mean with all it was said Ben Matheren, who's their
best free throw shooter, missed a pair that would have
still made it a one point game with like twenty
four seconds to go. So the series has been much
more competitive and much closer than I thought it was
going to be starting out.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Other topics helped me understand the Desmond Vane trade. From
both sides here.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Well, I can understand it from the Orlando side in
terms of a quality player. They really struggle at times offensively.
Jamal Mosley's done a really good job there. It's hard
a little bit to evaluate him this year because you
had so many injuries. Polo had a great year, Wagner
was out a lot, both Wagner, So the team is
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closer than a lot of people realize. Orlando's kind of
poised to make a run in the Eastern Conference, particularly
with who knows what's going to happen with the Celtics.
I don't think the coaching is necessarily the absolute key,
you know, I'm biased about that, but I think the
Knicks are going to be okay regardless of what they do.
I don't think they're going to be as good as
they were with Tibbs coaching, but I think it's a
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good time to make a move in the East. So
I can understand what Orlando's thinking. But boy, they gave
up a lot. They really gave up a lot. Not CACP,
the jury's out on. Loved him in Denver, liked him
in LA. He had a really tough year. Is he
too old?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Is he?
Speaker 7 (06:31):
On the downside, I don't know. I still think there's
something there. Greg Anthony s. Soun's a very good player
and a slew of draft picks, So I thought they
gave up a lot, But they got they got a
really special player back. Desmond Bane is a big time shooter.
He's a strong, physical guard. He's a very willing defender.
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He's a good defender. So I think they got a
heck of a player that can really help them advance
in the East.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
But boy, they gave up a ton.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
PJ.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Carlissimo, former NBA coach, an analyst for the Mothership. He'll
be covering the NBA finals. You mentioned the Knicks. What
are the Knicks doing?
Speaker 7 (07:09):
They don't know. De Peter's no way we could know.
They have no idea themselves what they're doing. So I
just don't understand it that I conventional logic, which doesn't
really concern me, is you don't fire a guy who
says talented a coach is tips. You can say whatever
you want about managing the bench, and you know they
didn't get as far as you look at what they've
done in the last twenty five years and his four
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years of putting them in the playoffs, they get to
the Eastern Conference finals. He's a proven winner. He was
a big factor back in eight. Doctor be the first
to tell you that when the Celtics won there. He's
really a special coach. You're rid of a coach, and
it doesn't seem like they had a plan. The Knicks,
you know, are still one of the three or four,
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you know, pre eminent franchises in the league. You think
people you don't want to coach there despite and I
don't think it's always necess leon. You know, you just
don't know with the ownership how much there's interference there.
I don't know who made this decision. It's easy for
them to make it look like, well, the players weren't
happy playing for Tibsie. You got a couple guys that
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have had the best year they've ever had in the NBA.
So I don't think they're really thinking, I don't like
playing for this guy. You know, it's been good for
me and the team's been winning. Where they're going now.
I don't know the calling other teams to talk to
their coaches that are there, and very good coaches. Okay, good,
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they picked good teams to call those guys that are
very good coaches. Why would you ever give permission for
the Knicks to talk to the guy? I mean, I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That any chance, any chance Rick Brunson takes over as
the head coach of the Knicks.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
I would have thought, yes, everybody's telling me no. And
who everybody is, I don't know. People around the Knicks,
the broadcasters, assistant coaches, a couple of players I talked to,
they all think no. That that to me, he was
kind of from the beginning. Rick Brunson's capable of being
a coach in the NBA. He obviously tips valued his counsel.
(09:12):
You know, he was a major factor for them. I
would have thought, it just doesn't seem to be mentioned
at all. Whether it becomes a fallback, I don't know.
Doesn't seem like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Kevin Durant's value now is what I.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Think, still very very good. He's still is going to
get you thirty or close to it. He's still We
talked about how special Shay is. Kevin in his prime
and he's not far from his prime, was the best
end of a game player you would ever want. He
was so big, he was so good with the ball.
He shot threes, shoots threes even.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Better, better than Lebron closing time or Steph closing.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I think, yes, you know I want him because Lebron
always as great as Lebron is, he was never a
great free throw shoot. He's become He's much better than
he was. KD was the whole package. He was going
to shoot ninety percent free throws. He was too big,
he could shoot over everybody. He had a good handle
for a guy that big, and he could score outside
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or inside, and if you followed him, he was automatic.
So he was a tremendous end of game player. Not
that he wasn't good the other forty seven minutes, but
he was money at the end of a game.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What's the best performance you ever witnessed, whether you're coaching
against or coaching for, But who put up the best
performance ever?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Well, I want to say Tim Duncan, but I'm trying
to think of an individual one the five years I
was lucky enough to be an assistant in San Antonio,
there were so many times that he got us through
to the end. But he wasn't you know, he wasn't
one of those guys that normally put up like forty
and did like twenty two points in a row. That's
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a heck of a question. I'm tempted to say somebody
like Kevin, but I'm getting senile, so I can't really
come up with an opponent or a game where I
just like sat there and said, I can't believe what
this guy's doing. Just scored time, you know, like kind
of what Shaye did the other night, what it was
at fifteen in the last sixteen. But not taking anything away,
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he's he is the MVP, He's great.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Jolkic is another one. DP.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
I don't I would, I know, we don't want to
get into the Jokic Shae debate right now, but Jokic
did that a number of times. The way he impacted
a game, I mean in so many different ways, with
the passing, with the scoring himself, with getting into the
free throw line, the way he understands the game.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What about witnessed anything with Jordan Oh.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
I mean that was like automatic, but it was like
you were so immune to it. You're just like when
he did it, you go, yeah, of course. It was
kind of like when they when they ran out of time,
whether yesterday they put Tiger on and it was like
a nice watching I had forgotten that last butt rolled
around a little bit. But Rocco wasn't being smarterer game.
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He went like, yeah, of course he made the putt.
That's what Tiger does. That was the way it was
mj Like whatever he did, you just go, okay, you
know if that's what Michael Jordan did, which made it
kind of special that you actually expected it and you
just kind of shrug your shoulders and go, yeah, that
was Michael Jordan. It's funny talking to a lot of
the younger players now in a sense they certainly don't
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remember him, but they haven't even seen him that much. Honestly,
they don't appreciate exactly what he did on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
What was more physical the NBA in the eighties or
the Big East in the eighties.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I think in the eighties it was it was actually
the Big East because nothing was called it was great.
It was expected. This series, talking about physical, you got
two teams that prefer to pick up folk court. Anytime
there's a dead ball, they'll both pick up ninety four feet.
They have a lot of physical defenders. That's the way
they defend. It's really hard to officiate this series because
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this contact and there's guys laying on each other virtually
every play, and when you go to the lane, it's
very rare when somebody gets all the way to the
basket with like without Home Grin or Miles Turner or
a couple of these really good long athletes just challenging
every shot. I really think the defense in this series
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is excellent.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, but they're not fighting like you guys did in
the eighties.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Well that was just I mean, it was just I
don't know whether Dave had him to Dave Gavin had
a meeting with the officials or what, but it was
like the funny part was it was expected though, Like
you didn't even look like a guy would go through
and get knocked down. He'd be up, he'd be bleeding.
Nobody would say a word. It was like, okay, you
know they follow us. That's the way it was. You
know what it was like on the playground DP when
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you were young and it was a game to eleven
and it got to be ten ten, Well you had
to like make a jump shot or something like that
because if you and inside guys just punched, it knocked
you down.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
That was the way the Big East was. Oh he
was most of it was in the game.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Great to talk to you. Save that voice for tonight. Sorry, well, brother,
thank you, GP. Good seeing, Great to see you, PJ, PJ, Carlssimo.
He'll be on the call tonight. It'll be Game five
and that'll be on ESPN Radio. The tip off is
slated for eight thirty Eastern ESPN Radio and also on ABC.
(14:23):
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Speaker 2 (15:42):
We'll get to Steve Sam's of Golf Channel. Coming out
quick Story went to dinner Friday night in the city
with Adam Sandler. All right, I wanted to get together
with him, find out how the movie is and is
it done it's ready to come out next month, and
find out, you know, how many scenes that I'm in
that got caught out and how many actually made the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
So I'm just doing kind of a you.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Know, just a welfare check here on how my career
is going with Sandler. Sandler goes, I'm going to go
play basketball and I'll meet you at the restaurant. Well,
the restaurant's really nice, but it's not very far from
the basketball courts. So Sandler's got his Hawaiian shirt on,
baggy shorts. He's playing a couple of games. Comes in,
he's sweaty, and you know, of course he walks in
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and everybody goes, that's Adam Sandler. They didn't care that,
you know, they had a dress code, it didn't matter.
So he's a mess when he comes in. So, you know,
we have a dinner, great, great conversation. We're leaving. He
said where are you walking to? I said, well, I'm
going to walk to Soho. He goes, I'll walk with you, Danny,
and then he goes, you don't want to walk with
the Sandman, And I go, okay, why he was actually
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saying you do not want to walk with him? Because
we probably passed ninety people. Let's say eighty of those
people ask for a photograph. It was you know, in
the middle of traffic, people crossing street, crazy crazy, and
he goes, I told you, Dannie, you don't want to
walk with this sand Man, but he was polite. One
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person out of eighty asked for a photograph of me.
One guy asked me if I would take the photograph
of him and Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I said sure, I'd be more than happy to. But
Sandman is good, and you know, maybe.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
There's one other movie that he's going to be working
on after Happy Go More two. A lot of cameos
and Happy gil Moore too. A lot of big time
golfers in there. And I found out Shooter McGavin. How
Shooter McGavin got his name in the movie. But I'm
gonna make you wait for that because I have to
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get to Steve Sands of Golf Channel, very popular play
by play announcer, host and interviewer Steve how are you?
Speaker 11 (17:58):
Shooter McGavin was at the Players this year, Dan and
I was on a stage with him and got to
meet him and then hang out with him for a
little while, and I was like, man, this is a man.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
Shoot him.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
McGavin's like an incredible character in sports movie lore, and
it was pretty wild. But let me get back to
the Adam Sandler thing. One love when you name drop.
I think that's very cool. And Two, how in the
world can you walk block after block in New York
City and only have one person ask for your autograph?
You came to dinner with me about a month ago
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in winter Park and we couldn't take a bite without
everyone in the restaurant running byes and calling, Oh my gosh,
that's Keith Arperman. Oh, I'm sorry, Dan, Patch, Dan, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Good to have you back on, Steve.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
It's great to be with you.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
How you doing, buddy?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
The best golf movie of all time is?
Speaker 11 (18:50):
Oh, Caddy Shack.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's not even close.
Speaker 11 (18:52):
Come on, really, come on, I mean Caddy Shack, you can.
I mean, I love Adam Sandler and I love all
things golf genre with Adam Sandler. I mean, come on now,
I mean Caddy Shack? Is there something better than Caddyshack?
Are you gonna give me Kevin Costner and that whole thing?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay? If I take Caddyshack off the board?
Speaker 11 (19:16):
Oh man, you know I haven't seen the second version,
but the first version with Adam Sandler, I mean that
made me laugh out loud. I mean, golf usually doesn't
make you laugh out loud. Yeah, I gotta see. I
gotta see the second version though. Are you saying it's good?
Were you in the movie by.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
The way, Yeah? Wow, of course. I mean I'll tell
you what, man, you you're a big time man.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I know.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
But I always find time for you.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (19:47):
You come to the Orlando area like once a month
and I hear from you once a year. Is that
always making time for me?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yes, because I got to meet up with rich Lerner.
Uh foaldo Like there's a lot of a lot of yeah,
a lot.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
The best The best part about you living in that
circle of people is that Lerner now lives in Connecticut
and Faluda lives in Montana, and you're saying that you
have to see them both when you're in Orlando. Yes,
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No, no houses.
Speaker 11 (20:20):
That's nice. It's nice of you.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I love what rich Lerner said last night. He said
that JJ spawn he beat the best and he beat
the beast. Yeah, he did in in that order.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Did he beat the best or did he beat the beast?
Speaker 11 (20:35):
I think he beat the beasts first. I think certain
major championship venues. Aside from Augusta National, which hosts the
Masters every year, there's certain US Open and PGA Championship
and Open Championship venues that just mean more. They just
do you. You do it Open at Saint Andrew's and
it means more than most of the other venues. And
I think Oakmont is one of those places. Dan, when
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you win at Oakmont, you have conquered Oakmont more than
you've conquered the other one hundred and fifty five guys
who are in the field. I agree with Rich, but
I would go beast before the field.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How many golf courses in the world do we tune
in to see the golf course and then you tune
in to see how the players play the golf course.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Augusta National for the Masters every year. I've never been anywhere,
you know, I've said this to people all the time.
You can go to Churchill Downs on the first Saturday
in May. You're going to turn around and watch the derby.
At some point you're gonna go to Wrigley or Fenway
or whatever your cathedrals are, fog Allen at some point,
whatever your cathedrals are. In sports, you're gonna be watching
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the sporting event. You can walk in. We talked about
this before.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (21:45):
You can go to Augusta, get a badge for a day,
walk around, eat those horrible Prometo cheese sandwiches, buy yourself
two thousand dollars worth of merchandise because you think you're
never gonna go back there again. You have to buy
something for every human being you've ever met in your life,
whether you love them or not. Have a beer, walk
the eighteen holes, see the place you're so familiar with,
not see a single golf shot, and walk away, go
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home and go that's the best day of my life
and you never saw a shot. The course at Augusta
National matters. Pebble Beach, I think is in that category.
We see that regularly. But you can just walk around
Pebble and enjoy the beauty and again Saint Andrews, the
familiarity of it, the history of it. But I think
it's those three And if you're going to do a
US Open, I think next year's venue might be the
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best golf course in America shinnecock Out on the tip
of Long Island, but Oakmont is one of those places
that's hosted the most in but it's also it's just
so famous for being hard. It's just so hard. It's
fun for US hacks to watch the best players in
the world try to get it around there.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
He Steve Sand's NBC sports play by play announcer, host
interviewer working for the Golf Channel as well. When you
start to look at what hell this played out, You
didn't have big names at the top of the leaderboard,
right Why you.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
Know, somebody told me a couple of days ago. I
found it interesting. PGA Tour events, week in week out
are not set up as difficult as this. So if
you're a little bit off your game and you're still
the best player in the world, you can get it
out of the rough, you can get it up and
in around the greens. You can't do that at a
US Open. So if the best players in the world
are just a little bit off at a regular tour event,
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they still end up on a leader board, whereas in
a US Open, especially a US Open at Oakmont, if
you're a little off the target, like Scheffler was, like
Rory was, like Shaffley was, like ludvig Oldberg was. You know,
if you're top four or five players in the world.
Just a hair off of a US Open, you're gonna
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get punished, and those guys got punished last week.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Why isn't Rory meeting with the media when he has
a bad round?
Speaker 11 (23:54):
You know what's sad?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (23:55):
I forget the night we had dinner. I'm being all
kidding aside. We had dinner one night and we were
talking about this at dinner, and it's still going on.
I think he's really bothered by what happened at the
PGA Championship when the USGA and the PGA of America
basically threw him under the bus and leaked out that
his driver had to get taken away. So did Scotti
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Scheffler's by the way, Dan, and he went on to win,
but his name wasn't leaked out.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Rory's was.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
He had just won the career Grand Slam. You know,
I think that. I think there's a motivation factor going
on right now that he's trying to find that gear again.
His whole life was geared towards doing something. Now that
he's done it, he's naturally kind of taking his foot
off the gas a little bit. I think he's upset
that his name was leaked out. He didn't like the
way the media handled that. The media actually went forward
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with that, as opposed to perhaps going to him off
the record and say, hey, I just found this out.
What would you like me to do with it? Because
I have to go report it that kind of thing.
And I also think he's not playing very well Dan,
and I don't think he likes talking about that too often.
But I got to tell you, as much as I
love Rory, I think you have to be professional and
you have to speak when you win and when you lose.
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Jack Nicholas was the greatest champion in the sport, Dan,
he was also the greatest loser in the sport, and
I think he needs to man up and speak to
the media because you don't want them directing the narrative.
You should direct the narrative. And I think he's making
a mistake, and I hope he gets back and starts
to do what he normally does, because, by the way, Dan,
he's so great with the media, he needs to do it.
(25:28):
It's not professional.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Because Jack won eighteen majors. I think he finished runner
up nineteen times.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Yeah, nineteen times. And by the way, Rory is such
a good guy and he's so smart and insightful, and
he's fabulous with the writers. He's fabulous on podcasts, he's
fabulous on fabulous on shows like yours and on TV
with us. You know, I hope he gets back to
doing it regularly because he's so good at it. But
right now he's in a little bit of a funk
with the media and he's not giving the media what
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it wants it. By the way, Dan, one last thing
on that he doesn't owe the media. You and I
talked about this. No athlete owes the media anything. They're
right when they say that. They shouldn't say that out loud,
but they don't owe the media anything. They do owe
their fans and their sponsors everything. The media just happens
to be the conduit between the athlete and the audience,
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whether it's sponsors or whether it's fans. And I think
that players need to get out of the realm of
thinking we owe the media something, we owe the fans
that sponsors something. The media is just the outlet between
the two parties.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Didn't Rory make you cry?
Speaker 11 (26:34):
He did make me cry at Royal Port Rush in
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
My mother.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
I'll tell you quick story my mother had just passed away.
And you know, you hear from a lot of people.
You hear from a lot of family and friends. Clearly
you know when your parents pass away or someone close
he passes away. In this case, it was my mom.
We go to Northern Ireland and I had never heard
from Rory. I hadn't seen Rory since my mother had
passed away. It had been about three weeks and he
missed the cut at Royal Port Rush in his home country,
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which had all the pressure on his shoulders and his
back going into that week, and right before we were
about to do the interview on Friday, after missing the cut,
after all that emotion from him, he literally looks at
Tommy Roy's in my year going okay. Thirty seconds out
said great, and Rory looks at me and goes, hey,
I didn't want to text you and I hadn't seen you.
(27:24):
Puts his hand on my arm and says, I'm so
sorry to hear about your mom. I wanted to make
sure I told you that in person, and the yikes stand.
I mean we were out on the air, but I
was like WHOA. I backed away from the camera, hit
the talkback button and said to Tommy. I said to
Tommy Roy, you're gonna need a minute. He goes, no,
we gotta get so, we gotta get to you. And
(27:45):
I go, I'm gonna need a minute. And I looked
at Rory a way, you gotta be kidding me, And
it was. It was a very very nice moment. Gives
you a little bit of insight as to what type
of human being he is, which is why we all
want to hear from him, whether he wins or loses.
But yeah, it was a very very nice say. He
definitely got me, and not many people get me, but
he got me hard there. Great to talk to you again, Dan,
(28:08):
You're the best man. I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Steve Sands works for a golf channel, also part of
the coverage of the US Open.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Uh, Roy's a good interview.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And maybe it's selfish that I mean, I want to
hear from him because he has something to say. But
you know, Steve Sands brings up some interesting things about
that he did get thrown under the bus. You know,
when they go, oh, he had an illegal driver, it's
not like he did something that was nefarious. It was
his driver that the face of it was so beat
(28:42):
up it actually gave a benefit to it, I guess,
but it was all unintentional and Scottie Scheffler had the
same thing. They confiscated his driver as well. He ended
up winning the tournament. Sean in Rochester. Hi, Sean, thanks
for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Wow, it's amazing about really.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yes you are, Sean.
Speaker 12 (29:02):
Oh my goodness. Wow.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
I just wanted to comment on your comments from last week.
I was trying to get in. I've never tried to
call into your show, but I've like listened to the
show for a long time. But I felt moved to
call into your show because you were just like your
(29:25):
comments on Brian Wilson and then it became fly Stone
and all that, like we're just so like I didn't like.
I know, you guys are a great like sports organization
and you understand.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
Sports, that's what you do.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
But I have to say I was just really impressed
with the fact that you knew that history of like
Brian Wilson and the Beatles and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, I love you music. I've been very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I grew up in a household where my brothers were
One of my oldest brothers was collecting albums and told
me what was good music and thank you for the
phone call, and I got I had friends who had cars,
so I got to go see concerts. You know when
you spend the seventies where you're going to see Errol Smith,
(30:22):
Stone's Zeppelin, who David Bowie. I mean, that's every kid's
dream and to have that music and then understand who
influenced the Beach Boys. I didn't get the Beach Boys
until I got the Beach Boys, and then you realize
there was so much more to them. And Brian Wilson,
you know, the leader of the Beach Boys passing away.
(30:44):
But I've always been a sly in the family Stone fan,
and I brought this up years ago about them, and
then I think Questlove was going to do a documentary,
and I thought that's awesome, because you know, we should
remember some of these bands and some of these artists
and who they influenced. So it's just a love of music,
(31:10):
a willingness to understand or listen to something. I didn't
get Dylan when I was growing up. It did not
get Bob Dylan didn't understand it. It was like, what's
the big deal? And all of a sudden it clicked,
and then all of a sudden, I became you know,
a know it all country. I didn't get it. It
was country western when I was growing up. Didn't get it.
And then all of a sudden I got it. But
(31:30):
I didn't give up on it. You know, sometimes you
go you listen to something, you go, nah, not for me.
But I kept revisiting it because I was missing.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So it was me.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And then all of a sudden country western became country.
And then I got Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings and
George Strait, I got Hank Williams and you know, you
got that music you under and the great songwriting now
to me is country. Some of the great songwriting is country,
(32:02):
led by Chris Stapleton. But it took a while, but
I love it, you know, I love listening to it.
I love when somebody says, hey, try this, Yeah, Marv,
Is there an artists that you'd like to interview, just
to pick their brain? Like, what were you thinking when
you made X.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, my problem with the Dylan movie was they don't
really get behind the science of this is why I
wrote this or how I wrote this? How long it
took me? To write that that was my biggest knock
on it. But then Dylan doesn't share that. Robert Plant
I'd love to interview because he's reticent to talk about Zeppelin.
(32:38):
Now there is the Zeppelin documentary, but like they were
what they were doing, when they were doing it, how
they were doing it, how big they were, Like what
is that feeling?
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, there's way.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Too many musicians, you know McCartney, but I want somebody
who has can have some kind of let me look
at myself, let me be willing to go back and
under you know, hey, I did this, this is why
we did this. That's what fascinates me. You know how
many times you hear an artist go I wrote it
in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I just had it.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I had to write it down, and I created this
in fifteen minutes. It happens a lot more than you think.
And I've been around Darius Rucker where he'll go, I've
been you know, I have to put a song away
and then I have to come back like three months later,
and then you add to it. Then you like you can't,
it just doesn't work, and then all of a sudden,
(33:36):
then it works. Like I'd have a hard time putting
a song to bed where I go it's done, and
then you'd go, I give drive me crazy. I'd be like,
you know, I'm gonna tweet that I'm gonna go more
tambourine there. But I have great appreciation for artists, and
that's what musicians are. Their art is, you know, a
(33:57):
paint rush with their voice or their instrument, as opposed
to an artist who puts something on campus.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Whoa got a little heavy there.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
How about we take a break, last call for phone calls,
what we learn, what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I believe JJ Spahn will join us on the program tomorrow.
Fritzi's been working on that. Do you remember when he
joined us at Pebble Beach and he walked up to
me and he said, uh, hi, JJ Spahn, I'm the
other black golfer on tour. He was a funny guy.
So I was rooting for him because it was a
(34:41):
great story out of nowhere. He's won one other time
and you're just kind of you bogie. Five of the
first six, I'm like, oh, just you know what? It
went from he might win to h that was a
cute story. Oh you know he was leading after three
rounds and all of a sudden, you go, all right,
(35:02):
it was a nice story. We got some nice partying gifts,
and then all of a sudden he just kept kind
of plugging along, plugging along, and then nobody really took
control of it. Let me see, is it Saday in Florida?
At least that's how it's pronounce or spelled. Is it Soaday?
Speaker 12 (35:19):
It's save Sabe but save.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh okay, Tyler wrote sad like it was Saday this singer.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
No, I wish I could say like that. But anyway,
first time caller, you guys were amazing five foot nine.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Point six, Okay.
Speaker 12 (35:37):
I just wanted to chime in on Fritzy's rod deficiency,
not disrespectfully, but as a wordsmith myself. I came up
with a couple of spawns. Do you want to hear him?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Sure? Why not?
Speaker 12 (35:48):
Spawn with the wind?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (35:52):
That rhymes of God from dust till spawn from dust
till dog.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Okay, the name is spawned JJ Okay, I like that.
Thank you, sab It was a legitimate right, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I like spawn with with the win, with the win,
not the wind there?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What did tod alrighty uh? Sam? And Iowa? Hi Sam,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Hey Dan? Thanks for calling back. Yep, yeah, I was.
I worked for a brewery here and I when I
deliver out the Field of Dreams, seems like you're kind
of interested about the Field of Dreams. Every year I'm
out there asking if they ever hear from MLB, and
they say, we don't know nothing until they show up. Well,
guess what. This year, They've showed up and they're moving
dirt and they are going to have an MLB game
(36:43):
out there next year. So I think, uh, as fresh,
you should get on it and start booking a show
and maybe do a field show from the right from
the field or maybe from the porch of the house.
I think it'd be a great, uh great opportunity for you.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, I keep threatening to go on to Iowa. People
have been great the response. We're just trying to figure
out the right time to be able to do this.
I have other things that we're doing this year. And
trust me, before I leave, not this earth, but before
I leave this show, maybe both. You know that I'll
be out there for a show in Iowa. Uh, Lucas
(37:19):
and Fort Wayne? Hey, Luke, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (37:22):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 14 (37:24):
I'll try and be brief, but I got to set
the scene. The business I work for is closing its
doors in a month, and I've been promised a five
hundred dollars bonus if I stay on. Okay, if I
remember right, you're from Ohio, Yeah, yeah, okay, so you
might know the area I live in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
M We're planning a golf trip and trying to spend
(37:46):
every single cent of this five hundred dollars bonus. Where
would you send me so I can get the most
extravagant bang for my buck.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Kiwa would be a lot of fun. It's got a
couple of great courses there. It's fun and people were
great when I visited Kiowa. So that's the first one
off top of my head. But good luck with that, Lucas.
There's a lot of courses. But I mean, you want
(38:14):
to go that you get kind of everything is included.
You don't have to you know, go you don't have
to have a car and go places. Now, if you
want to go to Pebble. But I don't even think
five hundred dollars will pay for a round at Pebble anymore.
Fresh in Milwaukee is back, Hi Fresh? What's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (38:31):
What's up?
Speaker 14 (38:32):
DT?
Speaker 15 (38:33):
Well, me and the daughter was watching some WNBA this
weekend and we started bringing up some of the greats.
So could you do me a favor for the people
who may have forgotten or don't know. Could you drop
a little knowledge of the female air Jordan Cynthia Cooper.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Cooper's great.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Nancy Lieberman, Uh, Cheryl Miller. There's way too many, way
too many, Lisa les Kansas Parker. Yeah, there's way too
many great women who have played basketball. I actually played
in games with Nancy Lieberman, and she was only a
(39:16):
woman when it started, because when you started to play,
you forgot all about that. She knew how to play
and wasn't afraid of anybody there. And we're playing against
guys who were on the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Dion played. We had.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Ken Norton, he was a linebacker, so you had athletes
on the floor and Nancy she was running the floor?
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Man?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Boy? Could she pass seton?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Would you give us a final results of the poll
questioned Paul. In the meantime, how about this day in
sports history.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Eighteen eighty three day and the New York Giants baseball
team admitted all ladies free to the ballpark. It was
the first ladies Day. Yeah, I have more of those players.
Nineteen thirty eight, Jimmy Fox of the Red Sox had
was walked six times in a game. That was the record.
Nineteen seventy five, this was a I think we could
say who won this trade? Milwaukee Bucks traded Kareem abdul
(40:13):
Jabar to the Lakers in nineteen seventy and Walt Wesley.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh yeah, Walt Wesley was thrown in there too.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
See two big men go to the Lakers for Elmore Smith,
Brian Winters, Dave Myers, and Junior Bridgeman. Elmore Smith was
a defensive minded center, Brian Winters a great shooter. Dave
Myers was I feel bad. He was kind of known
as Anne Myers brother and was drafted by the Indiana Pacers.
(40:40):
But Dave played at UCLA and a very good player.
Junior Bridgeman became a billionaire businessman and was a really
good basketball player just recently passed away. But I would
say the Lakers got the better end of that.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
We had a workshop it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite sure, but I'm going
to go out on a limb and I'm going to
say I think the Lakers got the better end of that.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Let's go around the room.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
If we learned anything, Oh Seaton final results of the
pole question?
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah, Todd's inability to rhyme. Is it deliberate or just
a funny quirk that he is right now? People are
going sixty one percent? Just a funny quirk. It's not
a deliberate bit by him, Todd. Would you learn today?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Aaron Judges currently minus twenty thousand to win the MVP.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Aw Seeden, What did you learn Steve Sanson's stories?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Marvin? You make time for Steve Stands?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
I do?
Speaker 12 (41:25):
I do?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Paul?
Speaker 6 (41:27):
I still don't know where tight End University.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is Nashville, Ah, Paul or uh? Todd? What did I
learn today?
Speaker 5 (41:33):
We all learned.
Speaker 11 (41:33):
You have a tough time believing Desmond Bane is the
missing piece for the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Have a great day, everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.