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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We'll check in with the Pacers. Quinn Buckner, their broadcaster
former NBA player, will join us as Pacers are a
win away from going to the NBA Finals, thanks in
large part to Tyre's Halliburton thirty two, fifteen and twelve rebounds. Tonight,
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We'll get to those phone calls coming up as we
make way for the man they call buck He is
Quinn Buckner, the Pacers color analyst, former NBA player, joining
(01:13):
us on the program. Quinn, great to see you again.
How would you do we have him?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I think we need a minute. I think we got
to call it twenty for mister Buckner. He just needs Okay,
we had him for a second. Then all right, we
lost him?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, Oh I did I commit a turnover there?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think it was a not on your side? Oh okay,
little technical issue. Still looking at a triple double though, yes, yeah, cool, yeah,
but I can't have a triple double without a turnover here.
I can't join Tyrese Haliburton.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We got to see how they credit that in the
box score there?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What is the poll question for the final hour.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
How many MVPs will show hey Tani finish his career with?
Right now, four has forty percent of that vote. It
actually goes exactly in order four or five, six, and
then seven with just twelve percent of that vote. And
we also have up there, which team down three to
one is most done? Timberwolves running away with that one,
followed actually pretty closely by Hurricanes, followed pretty closely by
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the Knicks. People believe most in the Stars. They only
have nine percent of that vote.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yes, Paul, I was thinking if anyone ever had a
triple double with turnovers included, I know that would not
be a positive one, but it'd still be a triple double.
I wonder about the most turnovers by a player in
an NBA game? Do you think it's more than ten?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But is that part of your triple double? That you
had points, rebounds, turnovers.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's not positive, but it counts as a triple double.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, there was one player, was it Nate Thurman who
had a quadruple double? Did he have points, rebounds.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Blocks, and assistments?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think had a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Did he really?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think had two quad quad doubles. Okay, quad dubs.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
They would be quadruple doubles. And you had a qdum
out there.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
For checking.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Uh auto in Los Angeles? Hi, Otto, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
You doing, guys?
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I had to write about the NFL schedule, but I
wanted to say something about the New York Knicks. About
Boomer saying about the celebrities, I kind of agreed with
him because Game one it looked like a freaking high
school homecoming basketball game and had all the former stars there.
Everybody's high five and clapping, and then they thought it
was sweet and then ended up losing that game. So
(03:39):
I think it's something to do with it. As far
as the NFL. I'm a Charger season ticket holder, and
the Chiefs start coming out here for the home game
because they're in freaking Brazil. So do you think the
NFL should be scheduling NFL Ribery Division games out of country?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No? I don't, but the NFL doesn't care what we think.
And you know, I brought this up when they started
to do this. You know, we were gonna do more
NFL games in Europe around the world, and I said,
you are going the NFL will create a schedule that
will be international games, an entire schedule for international games.
And that's exactly what they've done. So now you can,
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you know, bid that out, and then you know networks
are gonna spend billions of dollars on that. Quinn Buckner,
Pacers TV color analyst, former NBA player, joining us on
the program. Buck Good to see you. How would you
describe the atmosphere last night?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Very much?
Speaker 6 (04:38):
I wouldn't say chaotic. It was fun. It really is exciting.
You know, basketball is a big part of what the
state of Indiana is about. You know, it's in the
ethos of the of all of the fans, and so
to see the Pacers at this stage, I mean, as
you know, and those at watch Reggie's there, Jermaine O'Neill
is their lances there.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I mean, you've got a number of the guy Danny Granger.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Who had not been back came to the game and
excuse me and Triple H. I'm not into wrestling, but
that's a big deal for Reggie. I'm not so Reggie,
but for Tyrese because Tyres is a big wrestling fan.
So you got all of that going and John Mellencamp.
It was it was a lot of fun, just a
lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Much more iconic Reggie's choke to Spike Lee or Tyrese
Halliburton recreated that choke.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Well, the fact that he recreated it is pretty creative
on his part, but well it's not creative, but it's
something that he wanted to do. But I have to
say Reggie's is by far the most iconic. I don't
think there's any question about. First of all, that's say
points nine seconds. That's a huge difference when you look
at it. Even though tyrese got it going, could have
moved that footback and make the shot.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
But I'll tell you what this is. This kid is.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
He's not a kid, he's a young man, but he
really gets what winning basketball is about, and it's it's
important for him to share it with his teammates. And
that's one of the reasons why this team can run,
because guys will run if you know you're gonna get
the ball, and he will throw the ball to you.
And he does it very uniquely. He even admitted he's
one of the few guys in the league that does
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a lot of jump passes, which for many of the
older generation understand that was something that was taboo. But
he has the ability to find a pathway to deliver
his teammates the ball. And equally important, his teammates understand
if he gets in the air, you gotta get open
because you don't want him to travel with it, so
they make an effort to give him the space and
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then from there it's knocking down the shot.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He's got swagger, but he's likable, like he doesn't have
that you know where you don't like him because he's
so cocky.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Excuse me, typical view. That's a great observation. You're very observant. Yeah,
he really does. And that's why he can play with
his teammates and they're not jealous because he's not trying
to take the limelight and carry it for himself off.
It really is his pride in how he plays and
plays for his team and plays for the guys. He's
big on his guys. As a human being. When you're
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around it, he lights up a room. He wants to
make sure everybody is comfortable. All those kinds of things
that you like about human being. He makes sure he
engages you everybody, and I mean top to bottom. Pardon me,
including those if you will, because I've always watched guys
to try to see how they treat if you will,
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the back office, the back room, how do you treat
people there? This guy is the same with everyone. And
when he gets on the court, you know, guys, I
have to understand. He's just a really good guy. It
just happened to be one heck of a basketball player.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Can the Knicks come back?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Can is a word that you can use on it
at any time.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I think the pace is are hard for the Knicks
to play against because the Knicks are more of.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Their slower paced team, which is typical.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
This is what's unusual about this to me and maybe
you because you watched the sports Mini sports, but this one.
The game typically slows down in the playoffs, and the
further you go, as I was fortunate enough to do
with the Celtics and others, the further you go up
that ladder, the more it slows down. The Pacers have
managed to maintain their pace for the most part the
game they lost. They lost the pace at the end
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of I think it was the first half, in the
beginning of the third quarter, and it caused them a problem.
With this kind of pace, it's going to make it very,
very difficult. But you know, can is a word, but
I don't know it's gonna really.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
He's Queen Buckner, the Pacers TV color analyst. You were
prominently featured in the Celtics documentary. A couple of stories
stood out. When your wife wanted to know how confident
Larry was going into the game seven in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Yeah, she was very concerned about that, and Larry, We're
gonna win, and Larry just gets out of the car
like we all do. Get out of the car. Yeah,
and just keeps walking. I mean he did. He just
kept walking, and my wife, I think, felt better about
the whole situation. But that that is Larry, yesterday, today,
and tomorrow. He is the ultimate confident guy. But Larry
looks at it. He's just playing a basketball game. He
(09:15):
never looked at it like I said, you know, he
knows this seventh game, but he just does that.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
But he also had that ability.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
To I think, maintain that that presence, that that that
confidence because he knows it helps his teammates.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Also, you were there in New Orleans when Larry, when
Larry went off against the Hawks, and.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
To Dan, it was one of the most I've been
been blessed to be around the sport for many years,
and I'm gonna say more than four decades, I have never.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Seen anything like it.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
It was one of the great athletic perform great performances.
I don't go to plays or anything like that, but
he did it. He did it simply. And when I
see Dominique over there, guys on the bench giving each
other five because he's taken a shot, He's got no
business taken He's got guys draped on him, and he
makes it and just runs down like he's breathing. You know,
he's just breathing. It's just the next shot. But the
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proverbials on. He was there, and you know, the blessing
for me quite frankly, and I'm a little selfish in
this thought because I was there to witness it. But
I'm telling you it was one of the great performances
I have ever seen. And I happen to be blessed
enough to be around the Bulls in the nineties, but
this was something that was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But you played with Larry, you're good friends with Michael Jordan.
Can you compare and contrast their competitiveness.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Oh, they were equally competitive.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
I don't know if you can really say one is
more competitive than the other.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I only think about when.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
People ask that question, and they don't often because I
don't want I don't really delve into it. Larry, and
for those who you were religious, don't don't don't take
this the wrong way. Michael got sixty three on the Bulls,
I mean on the on the Celtics in the playoffs,
and Larry had somebody asked him about Michael Jordan, he said, well,
Michael Jordan's a basketball players like he basically said he
was God.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Larry had never seen anything like this. Larry enjoys winning.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
They both are very very They're smart as all get out.
They read people at a high level. But getting those
two and this is this is one of those two
death kind of things. You get those two against each
other is to the death of both of them, not
one of them, to both of them, because that's how
competitive they are.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Today's NBA. If you could tweak I'll give you, I'll
let you be commissioner for a day. You can tweak
one thing or change one thing. What would you do?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
That's an interesting question. I'm not sure I would. I
played in the air that was much more physical. Uh,
these guys are supremely more talented than those generation is
in the eighties and the nineties. The three point shooting,
I think is going to it will taper to the
degree that you have more capable player shooting. Some teams
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have guys shoot the ball, some people have shooters, and
some people have makers.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, there'll be more less people.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Shooting the ball that can't make it, and I think
that will make the game not probably even more interesting,
but I just like the evolution of the game and
how how it's grown. Dan I did not take to
it quite frankly when it first sappened. Dick Vitel, the
great vict Dick Vitel, I think you work with him,
so you know, Dick, he was on this from the
very beginning and thought it would change the game. I
(12:40):
think it's more exciting for fans. I think the players
are are much more excited about it and like to
do it. But there's some guys, you know, you just
you want to just shoot it because they're not going
to make it. So there's not anything necessarily that I
would change from the game. I'm you know, I'm sure
I had and his crew. He's spending many hours on that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't anybody compared to Steph Curry that you saw
no prior to No No, no No.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
And I got to give Mark Jackson credit when he
and I remember him saying this, Mark played for the
Pacers for those of you who don't know, and it
was a great guard from New York.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
He said when he got him, he said.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
These are the two best shooting heat guards maybe in
the history of basketball. Steph is so unusual because Steph
can't get his and he is never he's in terrific shape,
which I think is a factor. Quite frankly, as we
talk about New York and the Pacers play can't get it,
but if he get it, he's gonna make it. He
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played against the Pacers one game and I'm not proud
of this, and I don't think anybody in the organization is.
He got sixty points and twenty nine minutes on eleven dribbles,
and it was It was an unbelievable performance. Now Steph's
gonna take more dribbles than that, but he's capable of
doing that on it.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I mean at that time, on any game of the night. Obviously,
you move into your.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Thirties, you're not There's nobody that ever compared to what
Steph does because most guys are shooting, were shooters in
earlier times, but they didn't have the ball handling skills
quite as effective as he does.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
There's going to come a day where Larry Bird's not
one of the top ten players of all time.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I don't know about that. I don't know about that one.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Dan. I am telling you that Larry is is. There's
a uniqueness about him. But I tell you who is comparable.
And Larry said, there's only one guy he watches flight.
It's Jokis, And if you look at him, the difference
is Yokich is longer, but that's about it.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
And longer and that's not about it. He's taller.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
They play and whatever talent they have on their team,
those guys play at a higher level for having played
with Larry. I knew it because I did and I
watched Yokis do that. But getting Larry out of the
top ten, now you're not gonna I may be biased,
but I don't think so. I just think if you
look at pure basketball players, Larry bird is as pure
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basketball players, you're ever gonna.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Find nothing he could not do.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
You know, can't jump, can't run, beat you get your
triple double, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
No, Larry's staying in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
If it ends up Pacers and Oka See, how does
Indiana win?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
The benches got to be really good because okay See
plays ten to eleven players and they all contribute. And
this is what I think is for me what I
enjoyed watching. In terms of the coaching, Rick has done
a terrific job and you can go you know nine,
he has gone ten and you get some really good performance.
Oka See has eleven guys that they may throw out there.
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Everybody may have a specialty, but they star in their roles.
The others have to star in their roles on the Pacers.
I think Matherin's consistency off the bench. He had twenty
last night, but he struggled for the previous games. That's
got to have some concert and see fifteen to eighteen
points a game, and you're going to have to get
a lot more out of top and all of that,
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because okay See can score the ball, but they're the
best defensive they may be the best defensive team. Well,
I think left they really challenge you and they can
run with you and get back in transition.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It is. It would be a very difficult series.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Thanks for holding up your golf game. I'm sure you're
headed to the golf course, right.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You called it all right, I appreciate it. That always
good to tell you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you. Buck that's Quinn Buckner, Pacers TV color analyst,
former NBA player. We'll take a break. We got an
NBA quiz coming up. Also another NFL game coming up
to play. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Thunder are still the big favorites, followed by the Pacers.
Then it's a distant race there with the Knicks and
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the list. Timberwolves are getting eight and a half tonight
with the Thunder in Okase sing Time to play a
quick NBA game. Paulie is your host. Do we have
some music here, Marvin?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Course, of course, game show music for you. That which
NBA player had the most turnovers in a single game
in NBA history And how many did that person have?
And would anyone like a hint? Yeah, it happened in
the last within the last twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
What position did they play?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He was a point guard?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, what's a point guard?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was a point guard?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
See, I shall guess was a Russell Westbrook type. Yeah,
because they're like ball dominant, they need the ball a
lot and they get a lot of minutes, they would
be in a position to turn the ball over many,
many times.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yes, that is incorrect. However, I'm gonna give you two
bonus points because Russell Westbrook had eleven turnovers three different
times in his career.
Speaker 10 (19:22):
That's pretty high.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But he did not. I'm going to go James Harden
another good guess. You're getting a couple bonus points. James
Harden had twelve turnovers one time in his career, and
that's third all time. Here's a little fun part of
the game. The guys who are in second and third
are a small forward and a power forward. One Is
(19:47):
Giannis had twelve turnovers in a game three years ago,
and Chris Mullen, the great forward guard, had thirteen turnovers
in a game back in eighty eight. That's not the record.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Holder, Molly, that's not the record holder.
Speaker 10 (20:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yes, Marvin Paul you said was a point guard.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
When he played, he was a point guard. He no
longer plays. He didn't switch positions.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Jason Kidd.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Jason Kidd is correct, nicely done. Jason Kidd had fourteen
turnovers on November seventeenth, twenty twenty. Here's the bonus we
talked about quad dubs quadruple doubles. Yeah, Jason Kidd had
a quadruple double that night. Eighteen points, twelve rebounds, and
ten assists and fourteen turnovers. The unlikely quad dub bonus
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coverage rated. Who else had quad dubs in NBA history?
There are four gentlemen who had quad dubs. Here's a hint.
They all happened between nineteen seventy four and nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
A chema LOA, that's correct. Did he do it twice?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Does that take care of two of the four?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Takes care of four different gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh? Four different players?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Is for some reason? I think Nate Thurman is in
there for some reason.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You're correct. Wow, he's the first person to do it
in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
All right, okay, Mark.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
David Robinson.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
David Robinson is correct. Thirty four points, ten rebounds, TENNISI
is ten blocks in nineteen ninety four. Here's the toughie.
Nineteen eighty six. This gentleman did it with twenty points,
eleven rebounds, tennisis and ten steals. He was known as
a temperamental player and a very good all around player.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, Warvin, Alvin Robertson.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Alvin Robertson is correct.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Here, get out of here?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Are you looking? Are you looking at it?
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Well?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Come on, don't. Marvin doesn't cheat. I've seen him do
a lot of good answers here and he does not cheat.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Are you saying there's somebody who does cheat? No? No, okay.
It just felt like Marvin was on an island that
he doesn't cheat.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So Jason Kidd, who we just had on the show,
is he in the quad dub League?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I should have brought up the quad dubbed claud Yeah,
Patrick in Indianapolis, Hi, Patrick, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
First time? Longtime?
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Six for one seive.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
So about two years ago, I was watching part of
the interruption and Mike Wilbond was talking about how he
was just.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Speaking with Quinn Buckner.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
I'm a police officer, and the very next day I
had an interaction with the man, no fault of his own,
he did nothing wrong, but I thought I recognized him,
so I asked him his name and it was mister Buckner.
I was starstruck and I told him it was nice
to meet him, and how I feel like I'm friends
with Mike Wilbon and Quinn Buckner even though they have
no idea who I am.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Thanks for taking Micoll, Thank you, officer. Yeah, by proxy,
I'm friends because your friends. And now I'm friends with
Michael Viilba Wilbin. Are we going to play the NFL
Hall of Fame game?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, this is a kind of I was thinking about
this with Kirk Cousins. He's at two hundred and eighty
eight career touchdown passes. That's pretty high level stuff. He's
eighteenth all time. Let's say he gets another shot with
another team, it finishes in the three to twenty range.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, you'd have to win a super Bowl, right, But
who is the Statistically he's not getting in. But if
he wins, if he wins the Super Bowl, then I
could say, okay, maybe, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
The question out this list is I have the list
of the most touchdown passes in history. Which quarterback is
not getting in that has more than three hundred touchdowns?
I'll throw out a name. Philip Rivers has four order
in twenty one touchdowns it seems.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I mean, it's crazy to say with four hundred touchdown
passes he's sixth all time, probably not getting in maybe
like a Veteran's committee or something. Down the never appeared in.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
A super Bowl. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, in his playoff record was pretty medium. That's creezy.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, This Ben Roethlisberger, He's obviously going in, right, four
hundred and eighteen. Matt Ryan is ninth all time with
three hundred and eighty one touchdowns. He has an MVP
and a Super Bowl lost.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I would think
with the MVP that that might be enough. You know,
like Cam Newton, he's not up there on the passing
touchdown list. But when an MVP went to a Super
Bowl as well and lost in dramatic fashion, when oh
it wasn't dramatic, it was over quickly, less than dramatic.
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Yess poem.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Can you believe that Philip River and Matt Ryan shouldn't
get in the Hall of Fame but also think that
they will?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
All right, here's the next one. This is a tough year, okay.
Russell Wilson's twelve fall ten time with three hundred and
fifty touchdown passes and counting. He's ahead of guys like
John Elway, Johnny Uniteds, Warn Moon, Joe Montana, Dan FOUPs, cheepers, creepers,
three hundred and fifty counting.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, but the game change, the game changed. Okay, you can't.
You can't look at numbers from the seventies and sixties.
They just they didn't throw the ball fifty times.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Oh man, let's say he doesn't add any more significant work.
He just starts another year or two in the NFL.
Oh god, it's a random Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, he's playing himself out of soup the Hall of
Fame contention. And you go back to that Super Bowl
and if he wins that, then you know there's because
he has a better career than Eli, and they would
go in with two Super Bowl wins. But Rogers is
going to go rather have who would you rather? Yeah,
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but his his statistics are like mind boggling touchdown interception ratio?
Who would you rather have in a big game? Eli
Manning or Russell Wilson in a Super Bowl? Who do
you want? Paul Russell Todd?
Speaker 12 (26:37):
What do it take? Eli?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
See, I'm good with Russ Marvin Russ. I'm gonna go
Russ too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Russ has three hundred and fifty touchdown passes only one
hundred and eleven interceptions.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean, I hate to say, but like Russ, he
did good enough to win that game. I know it
ended on an interception, but I don't that interception really
wasn't his fault. It was just an amazing play. And
everybody and their brother knows. Hand the ball off and
you win the game.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Still or run a run pass option. Yeah, then then
you decide if you're gonna throw it, you're gonna be
able to throw it away, and maybe you were able
to run it in, give the ball to marsha On
and you win the game. Stand Yeah, yeah, Poe.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
So we probably think that Rivers Matt, Ryan and Russell
will go in. Should is a different topic. The Kirk
Cousins with two hundred and eighty eight touchdowns. He'll be
in the threes someday. Carson Palmer has two hundred and
ninety four career touchdown passes fifteenth all the time. He's
not going anything.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, but these numbers are gonna be hollow because in
the next ten years, the number of quarterbacks you know
Joe Burrow, what's he gonna end up with? I mean,
just run down the list of what guys are gonna
end up, you know with their touchdown pass total. You know,
everybody's gonna get to used to be three hundred. I
think three to ten was fran Tarkington's record, and it
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was there for a long long time. They just blew
right by that, and I think it if you don't
get to three hundred, we're gonna look at you and go, man,
you pedestrian. Or but get a couple more phone calls
in here, Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (28:26):
HIIDP, thanks for taking my call. You can go back
in time and accomplish one of the two things, dropping
forty or the sports Emmy.
Speaker 13 (28:34):
I'll hang up and listen, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I take the sports semi because that's a team effort.
If I'm putting up forty, that's just me. I mean,
somebody might have to rebound or set a pick, but
no sports emmy. No, these guys need it. They desperately
want that sports Emmy, and I if it's the last
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thing I do, I'm going to get them that sports semi.
You're welcome, Todd, Thank you, thank you. Didn't mean to
wake you up. Adam in Chicago, Hi, Adam, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 13 (29:11):
Thanks for telling me back fellows. Happy Wednesday. I've got
a loss on the Hall of Very Good and I'm
moving into Stephen Jackson's Brothers Hall of Fame. I'm six
foot three, white in al Dente, but I'd like to
announce my eligibility for the Brothers Hall of Fame because
I just want to see you at that table. And
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quick little trivia for you, Stanley Cup. Time going on here?
What two brothers have the most points in the NHL combined?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Gretzky brothers, Meek Adic, Well, it's soimilar to what brothers
have the most combined home runs in Major League Baseball?
And it's the Aaron bros So Justin in Austin, Hi, Justin?
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What's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (30:15):
Hey Danny? How you doing? Thanks for having me so listen.
I grew up in New York for thirty years. I
have to defend my boy Boomer. There's a big difference
in New York crowds and LA crowds. All right. First off,
the fans and mostly blue collar and grew up with
the team in New York, winning and losing, so the
passion and pressure is really know the game. New York
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celebs are almost all from NYC. They all grew up
there as well, watching the team, so that's extra pressure
when you play in front of people that know the game.
LA celebs do not know basketball for the most part.
None of them are from LA, and all their best fans,
Denzel Jack, they're from New York anyway, so it's all
fake in LA.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
All right, I thank you, Justin. I can't imagine now
if you're saying, because of the celebrities who are there
at the Garden that the Knicks don't play well, not
once the game starts. You're not worried about what's going
on around you, And here I am, you know, trumpeting
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just how great Jalen Brunson is in the spotlight. So
you know you can't have it both ways. Yeah, you
know he's a big time and you know they he
plays big and then all, oh man, these guys say,
you know the atmosphere. Now I understand the atmosphere, but
they're all on your side when the atmosphere is you're
on the road, when you're the Lakers and you go
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into the Boston Garden and Magic gets the skyhook to
win the championship. That's pressure. That's in a an environment
that is hostile, not where you know, you're playing in
front of your own crowd, and boy, they they want
us to win so badly. Try to do that championship
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on the road. And you know that's whenever I think
of Magic and they say, what's one play that stands out,
it's that play he had a skyhook over Kevin McHale
and Robert Parrish and won a championship. That's pressure. Not
going into your own building and then you're surrounded by
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friendly fire and I get that, you know, the expectation
level is pretty crazy there in New York. But the Garden,
I mean I can still feel the Garden that day
and you're thinking they are going to he may have
just won the championship and then Bird got loose in
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the corner, should have hit a jumper, and you know
Boston ended up losing. That's pressure. That's pressure for both teams,
but more on the Lakers to try to do it
in the Boston Garden.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
The mpone, I want to go back to what you
said with Quinn Buckner about Larry Bird falling out of
that top ten, and you're probably right over the course
the next one thirty years with Birds back injury. But
like you've said, we've said before, Magic and Bird are
tied together and their rank on the list doesn't matter
because it's like contributions to the game. They're top three
as a pair. You know, if you put them together,
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what they did for the NBA, they're linked together and
they'll never be separated.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, and I do like that, And we have suggested
that that, you know, Magic and Larry, Larry and Magic,
but you know, you got guys who were doing some things,
you know, just Joker eventually moving Imagine Joker gets another MVP.
Larry had three, but let's say he gets another one.
Does he move into the top ten? Is is Steph
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Curry in the top ten? Greatest shooter of all time?
Got four titles unanimous MVP? Is Kevin Durant going to
go in there? So I just I think you as
much as we like to hold on to those players,
there's a couple of players who just aren't going to
to stay in the top ten. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, Pauline, Larry Bird had a nine year run his
first nine years where he finished first, second, or third
for MVP.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, I can pick out a nine. I can pick
out Larry's best run and Lebron's best run, and I'll
take Larry. Lebron's a better player, you know, for a
variety of reasons. You know, if I look at longevity
and you know everything he did in the game. But
if you say, here's a window, and if I give you,
I'd say, all the players, I give you a five
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year window, six year window, and you take the best
six years. Now got to be consecutive, the best six
year run. With these players in the top ten, I'd
be curious how we would rank those players. Would we
rank them much differently or would somebody fall out? Would
somebody jump in if I looked at a six year run, Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 15 (34:54):
Because a lot of times we're talking about longevity. But
how good were you at the peak of your powers?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Right?
Speaker 15 (34:59):
And so eighty six Larry Bird. There might not be
too many people that can touch Larry Bird in nineteen
eighty six, especially that three year MVP run of his.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
So that's how I would go off of it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, Paulin, Michael Jordan had a six year run from
twenty four to twenty nine where he finished he won
three MVPs, finished top three every year. He was also
Top five Defensive Player of the Year for six straight years.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, although it's weird with All Defensive team because Larry
Bird made I think First Team All Defense a couple
of times, and Larry was not a defensive player. He
played the passing lanes. He'd get a lot of steals.
But I don't think that you would go, boy that
Larry is a lockdown defender because he wasn't, and he
had rim protectors there behind him with McHale and Parrish
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and Bill Walton. But all right, let me take a
break here, last call for phone calls, what we learn,
what's in store tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six eight em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
We touched on the Colorado Rockies starting the show. They've
been outscored by one hundred and seventy four runs. They're
nine to forty six. That would put them on a
pace to go twenty seven in one thirty five. They
lost in eleven innings last night. So they dropped all
eighteen series they've played in. That is this season. They've
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dropped twenty one consecutive series dating back to last season.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
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Speaker 3 (36:39):
Stata, the day stata, the J standa, the j oh
damn give us stand of the day?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Stand Pandora, thank you. I hear that voice sometimes in
my head. I wish I didn't Oh, I didn't say
that I had a choice in this. You know when
you hear voices, I hear voices. I hear Pandora. Stat
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of the day. Alrighty, so he got hockey tonight. Panthers Hurricanes,
Timberwolves at the thunder Underarth. How about this day in
sports history, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Just a couple. Nineteen fifty one, Willie Mays hit his
first home run. It was his first time at bat
in the Major League.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Nineteen fifty six, Day Long became the first to hit
home runs in eight consecutive baseball games. Ooh tough one.
Nineteen fifty seven, the National League allowed the Brooklyn Dodgers
to move to Los Angeles, New York Giants to move
to San Francisco. Simultaneously, dang last last me, Fritzy. That
would have been a big show the next day for
US reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, but the Giants moving to San Francisco didn't receive
anywhere near the fanfare of the Dodgers out of Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Losing two franchises in the day, that's a tough day
to Toughy A nineteen sixty two Wide World of Sports
with Chris Shankle premiere, That's awesome and another Toughy two
thousand and six. Barry Bonds of the Giants hit home
run seven fifteen. You know what that meant?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Speaking of Barry Bonds, nineteen ninety eight, Buck Showwalter intentionally
walks Barry Bonds with the bases loaded. So there's two outs,
bases loaded, ninth inning and his team is up eight
to six. Buck Showwalter of the Diamondbacks walks Barry Bonds,
Brent Maine comes to the plate and then lines out
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to end the game. I mean, here's the thing. They
won the game, so I guess you could say Buck
had the right call. Also, this one, I think I
have his name right, Rob mccoveac. He played with the Pirates.
His wife is in the hospital and she's getting ready
to give Burt to their first child. He hits a
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walk off grand Slam in the first game of a doubleheader,
then hits a game tying two run homer in the
night cap with the Pirates to go, went on to win.
So on the birth of it, so that that child
is twenty one years of age. Right now, all right,
let me see update the final results of the poll
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question if you can see no counter. Yep, we got
two of them working right now. We have up there
how many MVPs will Altani finish his career with? Right now,
four has about forty percent of that vote.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Followed by five, then six, then seven. We also have
which team down three to one is most done? Sorry Minnesota,
but the Timberwolves are most done.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yep, it's not about that. I can see that. Yeah,
eight and a half point underdogs, and okay, see I
wonder since Minnesota could have won that game they only
lost by two points. Can you have the same philosophy
if you're okay c with ant Man, and that is,
let everybody else try to beat you, or do you
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all of a sudden go you know what, Maybe maybe
we decide that we'll take our chances with ant Man
going off. I mean, lou Georg's going to be gardening,
but he's gonna get a whole lot of help when
Anthony Edwards gets by.
Speaker 10 (40:22):
Yes, marm, I don't overthink it. It's been working. Keep
it up.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Thank you, thank you, Martina.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Yeah, oh, you asked the question.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I answered, Oh, I know, okay, it was a rhetorical question.
Yeah you know what that means, Todd, right.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
Rhetorical questions, but you already know the answer to it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (40:43):
Yeah, you're asking anyway, but you'd kind of know the
answer by yourself without getting help from others.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
So since you asked Todd what a rhetorical question is,
he should have not answered.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It because it's rhetorical.
Speaker 12 (40:55):
There was no need for me to even respond there.
I see what you did. Very nice.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
How is your day today? I think I had a
good day. Okay, I don't know what happened before.
Speaker 12 (41:07):
You accuse me of falling asleep? He said, sorry about that.
Help you help win the sports on me? And I
didn't have a I didn't have anything clever to say.
We you said, I hope we all get those sports
on me?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
No, no, no, you just uh, I don't know you
just didn't have your usual interngy. That's all.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
It's there.
Speaker 10 (41:20):
It's latent, okay, what is late got of hidden?
Speaker 12 (41:24):
It comes out when you at least expected. It's not fun.
If you're expecting it, you're expect me to tell you
what we learned today?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
What did you learn today?
Speaker 12 (41:34):
To Stephen Jackson never got rattled by the pressure of
big crabs and celebs and attendance. In fact, he makes
love to pressure.
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Thanks for joining us, My thanks to Quinn Buckner and
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(42:03):
Have a great day.