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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Wednesday Dan and The Dance Dan Patrick Show,
What's it like to get yelled at by Jerry Jones.
We'll talk to one of the co hosts of the
Cowboys flagship station. The Fan in Dallas got yelled at
on Tuesday by Jerry. They had the audacity to question
what happened in the off season when you were all
in stat of the Day brought to you by Penne America,
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the official trading card to The Dan Patrick Show. I
watched pre season basketball last night. I watched the Lakers.
They were chanting for Brownie, but I was actually watching
for Dalton Connect. He can play, He'll be in the rotation.
He might be the best shooter on the team. He's
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he can play. You know, he had transferred to Tennessee
and I don't know if he led the SEC and scoring.
I think he did, but he can shoot the three.
I think he had five threes. But you know, the
fans wanted to see Bronnie. You know, Bronnie's not gonna
have any impact on the team. Dalton Connect will heck
with that. We want to see Bronni come in.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, Paul get used to this Dalton connect stat line
for the Lakers nineteen points, zero assists, fifteen shots in
twenty minutes of play.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That sounds like me. Yeah, that sounds like me. Your hero.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think he had five threes. But he can shoot.
He can shoot, all right? Final hour poll question. Also,
we have leftovers from the game in or out a
few holdover questions there.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Three years in.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
How are we feeling about the name Guardians right now?
Your options are super lame or super game because I
couldn't think of anything else that rhymes with lame. Ninety
percent have it as super lame. That's gotta be one
of the most unpopular names in sport.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It's just it's just Land. It's just not good.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
People are just as sure as that as they are
of the Jets, are desperate or mart Ninety one percent
say that they're desperate.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes they are, Yes, yes, and I'm okay with that. Yes,
you were desperate from the outset of this experiment. You're
desperate to get into the postseason. Any other questions, any
other pole question.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Last twenty four hours for the Jets has been seventy
nine percent say bad. How much better does DeVante Adams
make the Jets somewhat at eighty four percent rather than
significantly we had up there. This is another one for yesterday. Actually, oh,
but we didn't really hit it all that much. Should
NFL officials have a limited number of flags to throw? No,
that's ridiculous, or yes, please right now? Sixty nine percent
(02:38):
say no, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It is ridiculous. But we tried.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But there's a message I'm trying to send there. It's
there's just too many flags. Yeah, I give now. I
want you to decide is this flag worthy because you
only have X number of flags?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Did this affect the play?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's that's where I keep coming back with some of
these penalties because you had four penalties that were picked up,
so you had twenty six penalties there in that game.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
On Monday night, it's Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Saturday Night, it's Iowa against Michigan State. Get all in
on Iowa because they're scoring some points. That'll be Saturday
on NBC in Peacock, here comes Saturday Night, presented by Discover.
All Right, it's a game that sometimes takes a little
while to explain the rules. It's called in or out.
These are left over from last hours portion of in
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or out.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So I give a statement, you guys say whether you're
in or out.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, so last.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hour you guys were being anti American. I was being
pro Army and Navy. Just to recap, I was incredulous.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Paulie.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You were saying, if you could have a magic wand
and say Army or Navy gets into the playoffs or
anything else in sports?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right, So like worre storytellers, you love stories, yes, and
we're not saying like I can't put the Bears in
the super Bowl. That's off the board. I should have
said that.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You can't put your team into winning a champion.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So what else would you do in sports in the
next five months that would be a better story than
Army or Navy facing blank.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In the college the Jets win the super Bowl. That's
a pretty good story to tell.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Retracted. All right, I have two more.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Cowboys win the Super Bowl. James, Ronnie, James m VP.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
How about some ones that are not that are somewhat
realistic Ronney.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, as opposed to the Army Navy thing, you just post, well,
they're undefeated, there's a path, there is there is a
chance for.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
That, there's a chance for everything. We just said.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Okay, once again, it's called in or out.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
If I were MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, I would give
up a pinky toad. Have the Dodgers and Yankees in
the World Series in or out?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Todd out. See, I think I'm out, Marvin out.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
I think I'm out on all of these stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, I'm out on this too.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
For a man for doing with ten toes, yeah, but it.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Doesn't affect his salary.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now if he got a bonus for you know, ratings
went to a certain level.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
But no, you're not going to give up a pinky toe.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
He was having a very good Yeah, he doesn't need to.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Give up any digits right now. Yes, ton, what.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
If was just a fractured toe? So three four weeks
you're really uncomfortable, you're limping around. You're not losing your
toe forever.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So if I took a hammer and then I said
take off your shoes and socks, and then I got
to smash it, it has to be a hammer.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Could you just jam it against the door.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
No, no, no, no, it's got to be it's got to
be a hammer.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'bout one of those hotel beds where you go around.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh no, wait a minute, what happened in Vegas during
the Super Bowl last year?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Oh, I took flight. I had to go to the
bathroom like two o'clock in the morning after a late
night snack, and I missed something around the corner. Didn't
know there was like a little bed or a little
mini table there in front of the bed, and I
just went up in the air.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
If there be a human Hindenburg.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Very briefly, I did some research. When we're in Vegas.
They make these hotel beds like that, like that box
style with nothing underneath it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So you can't put something underneath there, and cleanliness.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
All the dust.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Bunnies but you always hit your foot on them at night. Yeah,
dust bunnies and you take flight like Todd. God, I
would have loved to have been there.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What would you pay for a video?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I got some money to chip in on that too.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, we're also we're in on five grand.
Speaker 9 (06:32):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I just got the full script for Happy Gilmore too.
I had to sign an NDA.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You read it on air.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, No, it's a non disclosure agreement.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'm not allowed to do that.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's funny timing for that too, because you're in and
we're out.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, Samly just called you're out. I tried to
get you guys.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
He doesn't want anything to do with us being in
movies anymore, I know, and we really ruined it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I tried to get you guys in the gallery, like
you'd be one, you know, in the crowd.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
He hates us.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
He you know what, when it's one of those I
reached out to him and I said, hey, Sandman, blah
blah blah blah blah, and what do you think about
the dan Nets being in the gallery. Well, he answers
the other two questions that question. Yes, yes, it's a
Hollywood No. Okay, is there any any more inner out question?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, just thought provoking one. This is from the Intranets.
Dan Landing the head coach of Oregon. He hits a
snow snooze button. He says, like six or seven times
in the morning, in or out. I never ever use
a snooze button. I'll go first, I'm in. I've never
used a snooze I wake up on first.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
One ton and don't use the snooze button.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
See so if i'm if I'm out, I do use
a snooze button.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, I'm out, Marvin, I mean I'm out.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh yeah, I mean I oh, I can get back
to bed because I think that the when you hit
the snooze it goes to about eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I can get back to sleep in that time.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's then we did it. That's it, nailed it. That's
another weekly game of in or out.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Well, you could set the along for eight minutes later
and just get up up to the first beat.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
No, that's not the point.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
You have that extra eight minutes. And why are you
waking yourself up eight minutes early if you have eight
minutes to spare.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm in with Fritzy.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Oh not bad, but more okay the concept. Yeah, we've
never slept together, have we at any point?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, you're one of the show. We were doing a
road trip to Chicago, and when we got to the hotel,
Seat and I were informed that we were sharing a
hotel room. And to Seaton's credit, goes, I'm gonna put
my foot down, Paul, because I appreciate your backing.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
I go, I got you back.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Oh so you guys didn't sleep together?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We did, Yeah, but we were given a hotel room.
To share as adults men.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, we had budgetary constraints when we first started
this show.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Just they weren't that strict.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
We thought sleep in the New York.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah, we weren't even on the air yet, so I
don't even know.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh well, I remember when they were going to split
the room, right when they asked us to reuse our
coffee cups, and I thought, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Know, well that like that.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I at least I understood that.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
That was like, oh okay, these are like really expensive
fancy coffee cups.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It was the like, hey, we're building a studio in
New York, and you guys are.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Going to sleep in it. Uh, we're not. I know,
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. But
I got a bed for the man Cave in New York.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Look, we put in these two beds that we pull
out of the wall. There wasn't even a bed for
each of us. It was two beds that the four
of us.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Were going to share. No, it wasn't four, No, it
was not.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It was because I helped design the bed and I said, hey,
it'd be great if we had beds.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
That came out.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
We could give the impression that we sleep there of
the impression that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We management didn't want the impression they wanted the actualitybody
Able took it a little too literally literally expensive.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Just they are todd.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Just stay in the just stay where you are sitting
in your seats and sit up right.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Oh my god, I had the one guy was like
uh he was like. I was just like, I don't know, man,
maybe we should get hotels.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
He's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe you shouldn't live
so far away.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I was like, you can't, Like all right, well, when
I took this job, we didn't have a studio in
New York City, So am I supposed to move every
time we do this or what?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Because moving to Manhattan's pretty inexpensive anyway, So we should
have done that.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You guys are so spoiled.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
It's the truth, it really is.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I remember back in my day when I'm sleeping in
my office at ESPN.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But times have changed, Diva.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, so you got baseball coming up tonight It's Dodgers Mets.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And did we check the weather?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It should be like what upper fifties, upper fifties maybe
first pitch eight oh nine?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yes, well, yeah, I have a who kind of Chili.
I think the low is going to be in the
high forties. Oh, midway through the game, I saw a
couple of players with the Yankees yesterday wearing hoodies coming
out the back of their jersey.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Hm, it's kind of soft.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now it says eight oh.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Eight, that's first pitch.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Do you think eight? It's going to be eight oh eight?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Usually, if it's a number like that, broadcast starts at
eight and first pitch is actually eight oweight like NBC.
I think it's eight seventeen Eastern for the kickoff of
Football Ball Night, you know generally.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, let me see Drew in Chicago. Hey Drew, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (11:42):
First time, long time, six feet one ninety. I was thinking,
instead of the twelfth Duck T shirt for Dan Lanning,
you guys should make a twelfth Duck alarm clock digital
alarm clock for Dan could and then keep hitting the snooze.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
He showed me his phone and it had all of
the times that he would wake up, and there were
fifteen times on there. Now, I guess that depends on
where he is time zone, if it's a Saturday or Sunday.
But there were fifteen of them at least on his phone?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Was that cool? Odd? Disturbing? How did your process that
when he held up his phone like that in the moment?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So what'd you just do?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
I give you some choices? We're all about choices? Cool ah,
just like a pole question. You saw someone with thirty
different options or when they're going to wake up? Do you
find that cool?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Odd or disturb How about answer about you just say
what did you think.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I could have done that?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So you're leading the witness, Yes, I did.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I provide you with specific options.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
When you off the board. Yeah, because now I'm going
to take your options.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
What did you think of coach landing with all those
different wake up times?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Like?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Was it odd? Was it weird?
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:46):
It was it bizarre, disturbing, strange.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Aaron Judge hit his first home run of the playoffs
in the win, his first postseason home run in his
last forty five postseason plate appearances.
Speaker 12 (12:59):
Instead of day, sat of the Day, that past Dad
of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Here come here comes that what stat of the day?
Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of the program. Peter in Tampa. Hi, Pete,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (13:19):
Hey Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Shirt?
Speaker 11 (13:21):
Yep five?
Speaker 14 (13:23):
Dad Bud won seventy five.
Speaker 13 (13:28):
So I was calling about the Dodgers in their travel.
But before I asked that, while I told him, I
was thinking, you know, I bought a Tampa Bay T
shirt and I wore that shirit with pride for a
long time. But an ext girlfriend of mine has it.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 14 (13:45):
We're not really on.
Speaker 13 (13:46):
Speaking terms, but I know she eye it.
Speaker 14 (13:48):
The last time we checked in like a year or
two ago, She's like, yeah, I got it. Like should
I call her and get it or just how should
I get it? I mean, I think it's valuable.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It is it is he's not coming back. Yeah, I
would ask for it. I mean I get like women
ask for things. They want things back or they want
to keep an engagement ring. Yeah, I think you could
ask for the Tom Brady Tampa Bay T shirt. But
I think you're on the clock though. There's a time
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limit of when you can ask for something back.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yes, and what's the next episode says, No, you're gonna
sue over his shirt that we almost got stewed over it.
That's really weird, and that all thing.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Maybe you send her a cease and desist. What do
you think?
Speaker 10 (14:33):
I like it?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
All right, So we've talked about this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We talked a little bit about this yesterday, Jerry Jones's
appearance on one oh five point three. The fan management
has to be thrilled with the national exposure for one
oh five point three the fan the team's flagship radio station,
and uh they get to carry the broadcast of the
Dallas Cowboys, and you also get to interview Jerry Jones
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every Tuesday. But one of the co hosts will join
us after getting scolded verbally spanked by Jerry Jones, and
we'll talk to him coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (15:22):
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three DP show. Update the poll results if you can, Seaton.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Sure can.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
We got a whole bunch of Jets poll questions going today.
All right, the last twenty four hours for the Jets
have been about ninety percent bad, not great. How much
better does DeVante Adams make the Jets somewhat at eighty
four percent over significantly better. And we also have up
there three years from now, three years in how are
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we feeling about the name guardians?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
They'll super lame.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
What if you said, who will be more impactful the
rest of the season, Davante Adam Amari Cooper?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
How about that one?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, okay, maybe we can do that all right. We
played a portion of an interview. Jerry Jones does a
weekly interview on the flagship station for the Dallas Cowboys,
and he does that every Tuesday, one oh five point
three the fan. I want to play you the question
that was asked. I want to put everything in context here.
(16:23):
So here's the question that was asked by the co
host to Jerry Jones.
Speaker 15 (16:30):
Jerry nineteen seventy A little different from this past off
season in building the team we're talking about today, which
there was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough with some of the problems that are
still haunting the Cowboys today that we see play it
on the field.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
That's the point of talking about the off season.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Oh wow, Okay, So Jerry then goes off on a tangent,
but then he gets around to answering the question, and
this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Oh I remember those criticisms very well.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Okay, so what are they playing out to be accurate?
Speaker 9 (17:08):
What's your point? What's your point? This is not your job.
Your job is to let me go over all the
reasons that I did something and I'm sorry that I
did it. That's not your job. Well, my job is
to ask one job, or I'll get another. I'll get
somebody else to ask these questions.
Speaker 15 (17:24):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why
the team is.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
I'm not kidding it. I'm not kidding it. You're not
going to figure out it's what the team is doing
right or wrong. If you are are any five or
ten like you, you need to come to this meeting
I'm going to today. There are thirty two teams. Here
are your geniuses.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So Sean and RJ.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
The Morning show in the Cowboys flagship radio station one
oh five point three the fan in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
So RJ Choppy joins us on the program. How did
that interview end?
Speaker 16 (17:56):
Rj Uh We went into a couple of other topics
and we ended it as Norman. Now, it went longer
than normal. Usually they're about fifteen minutes. This one went
closer to a half hour. But yeah, it ended, you know,
obviously less contentious than it was in that moment, but
(18:17):
when it ended, we did know that that was not
a normal Tuesday appearance from Jerry, which we've had. We've
had almost three hundred of them with him. It's been
fourteen years that we've done that interview with Jerry basically
the same time on Tuesdays, and we've never had anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Any follow up from Jerry Jones after the interview, given
the fallout from.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
It, No, not to us, and we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 16 (18:45):
And I'm sure that it would have been relayed to
us had there been, But no, And we actually talked yesterday,
you know, we were wondering if he would call in today.
He has an appearance Tuesday in the station and then
Friday on the station, so he had We haven't.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Heard from him. That may change the week.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Goes on, but as of now, No, did you take
the thread seriously that you guys are interchangeable parts there
on the flagship station?
Speaker 8 (19:15):
No?
Speaker 16 (19:16):
No, I mean everybody's interchangeable, I suppose, but uh, he
seems sorious.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
RJ. It did seem serious.
Speaker 16 (19:24):
But you know, we were sitting there wondering was he
talking about like removing us physically or just he's going
to just do.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
His interview on another show on our station.
Speaker 16 (19:36):
At a different time of day, which I mean, if
he wants to do that, I mean, that's I suppose
that that's his prerogative. But now our our company, our
boss has been behind us. They've not said a word
about that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But your job is to I mean, I don't know
if he expects team friendly questions. I don't know if
you've ever felt the need to do that to him.
It certainly didn't sound like when you said, hey, that's
not my job. Your job is to ask questions that
fans one answers to. You know, does has he ever
submitted questions or said you can't ask me about certain things.
Speaker 16 (20:09):
He's never submitted questions. There was maybe one time, and
I think this was eight ten years ago. It was
it was about week three or four of the Colin
Kaepernicks that you discussion that was going on, and they
were and we had asked him three and four weeks
in a row about it, and they were just like,
(20:30):
let's just move on from that and let's talk football
this week. That's the only time he's been great like
he really, That's why this was so surprising. He's never
been sensitive. Of all the owners that we've dealt with
in town and even owners in that we've had on
from other markets, we've never had one that is more
accepting of difficult questions.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
We don't get personal with him.
Speaker 16 (20:55):
That's like the one rule I every media member here
knows that don't talk family with him, don't get personal.
He's never had a problem with answering tough questions. When
you're the owner and the GM and you put yourself
out on radio twice a week every week, it's hard
to avoid those questions. To his credit, he's never had
a problem with him. And that's what made this so
(21:16):
like surprising and disappointing. To be frank, Yeah, but I
don't know if it's weird. You kind of look in
the mirror and mortality sets in.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You're eighty two, you're celebrating your birthday, you're at home,
you're getting embarrassed again. You've you've lost what four in
a row at home, going back to last year. You're
giving up over forty points a game, and three of
those four like, I don't like. It almost felt like
this is the tipping point, which sounds crazy considering the
Cowboys haven't really done anything on a you know, big
(21:46):
scale in thirty years.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Right, And.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
I think the frustration boiled over, like this is not
the year they wanted. He wanted to go all in.
That was a big talking point in the offseason, the
all in. They didn't go all in. They went all
in on what they had. Everybody was on a you know,
entering camp basically on a one year deal. Dack Ceide Lamb,
Mike McCarthy, they were all entering on a one year deal.
And I think that he finally like he I finally
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realized that, hey, we screwed up in the off season,
and now it's back on me because I've said put
it on me, put it on me, and now it's
on him, and you know, you understand. And I think
that he does want to win really really bad. He
wants one more title, and he knows he's eighty two
years old. When you're ready to you know that your
time is is not You don't have fifty years left
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he's under more pressure to win. That's you know, he's
under a lot of pressure. Most gms are under pressure,
but most gms don't own the team.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But I also wonder about this national narrative. And Dani
Rolovsky brought this up that he thinks if you gave
Jerry a choice of getting publicity every single day on
ESPN and Fox and radio shows or winning a super Bowl,
and like he loves the daily you're talking about my product,
and we've seen the value of that because they haven't
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won anything. Nobody gets more attention for doing less than
the Dallas Cowboys do.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
He's a business man.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
R J.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't I know he wants to win, but he
also is selling a product every single day.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
He is, he's the best salesman.
Speaker 16 (23:21):
And I've always called this the world's largest mom and
pop organization, and it is. There's an element of that here.
But yeah, he does want to win, Like there's no
doubt he wants to win. But when he has said
I'll write, you don't know the size of the check
I would write to win, We we got it.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
We we wonder about that because.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
He could he checked to Derrick Henry, Yeah that's the check.
I wanted him to write.
Speaker 16 (23:46):
Yeah, he could have wrote a check to you know,
any number of head coaches over the years.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Uh, And he hasn't done that necessarily. But yeah, it's does.
Speaker 16 (23:56):
He want to win or does he want to win
with him being the general manager? And would he accept
winning and would it feel as rewarding if say, Bill
Belichick was in here and Bill Belichick was in charge
of personnel and Jerry was just the owner, and I
don't know, I don't know that he would.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, that's weird, that's weird to say.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But can you remember a worse loss if you have,
let's take out playoffs. But the timing of this loss
eighty second birthday, they've been blown out at home. And
can you think in all the years that you've been
in Dallas, was there a more historically bad loss.
Speaker 16 (24:37):
The two thousand and eight final game of the year,
they lose to Philadelphia. If they win, they go to
the playoffs, they win the division, they lose. It was
like forty four to six, so bad. That was the
I think that was the too. That's my quarterback game,
my memories, my memory's going.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
But that was bad.
Speaker 16 (24:57):
That was bad, and they felt it because that was
a really good team and went into the camp that
year thinking, hey, we got a real, real chance to
win this one. This was a bad loss though it
was his birthday. They got embarrassed by a team that
treated that game like a like a statement, like a
super Bowl, and the Cowboys treated it like a regular
season game.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
And Detroit was it was evident.
Speaker 16 (25:18):
I think, you know, you see San Francisco and you
see they play San fran and they get beat. This
was different because this was now another team that did
to you with the Niners have done so many times
over the last few years, and they made the Cowboys
really look old, they made them look slow, and they
made them look not as talented.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Good to talk to you, RJ.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Glad you're still employed for now, for now, Thank you,
all right, Sean and RJ. The morning show in the
Cowboys flagship radio station one A five point three the
fan in Dallas. I know it sounds crazy to say
that an owner cares more about being in the national
dialogue than he does about truly winning a championship. Because
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you brought back Zeke Elliott, who does not help you,
and Derrick Henry is leading the league in rushing. You
could run the ball, keep your defense off the field
a little longer. You spent all that money on DAK
and all that money on SEED. I mean, and Jerry
loves talking about the Cowboys, but you can't have user
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friendly questions to him.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
You got a job.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
If you're a Dallas Cowboy fan, do you want user
friendly team friendly questions? You want answers. You're the coaching GM.
You control everything. Hey, if I could write a check,
you could have written a check. Could have written a
check a long time before you wrote those checks to
DAK and CD, and you could have brought in Derrick Henry.
(26:48):
Now you got people's attention. And I know we're making
Derrick Henry out to be Jim Brown here, but Derrick
Henry looks like he still has some tread on the tire,
Like what is the downside? I mean, you re signed
Zeke ellieight years ago.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That was wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I just I think Jerry gonna look back, people look
back on the legacy, and it'll be a legacy that
will be incomplete because when it got down to who
was getting the credit, Jimmy Johnson or Jerry Jones. Jerry
had a problem with Jimmy because all we did is
talk about Jimmy Johnson, how about them Cowboys? And Jerry
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had a problem with that. Jimmy built such a good
team that Barry Switzer came in and got a super Bowl.
That's how good Jimmy was.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yes, yeah, I think too, like talking about all those
things and whatever flaws Jerry Jones has, there are definitely
way worse owners out there than Jerry Jones. Okay, yeah
he I mean there are owners who truly don't care
for them as just an investment to make money, and
that's all they're interested in is the best way to
(28:04):
milk these teams for as much money as they can
possibly get out of it and then sell it for
even more money. Sure, and Jerry Jones is absolutely not
that guy. He I fully believe when like we were
just saying, you know, he would write a check to win,
no matter how big of it. I absolutely believe that
he doesn't always make the right decisions.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
But there are way worse owners in sports than that man.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, all you want is your owner to invest, like,
truly invest in a team.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
George Steinbrenner, he invested in that team, He created the
Yes Network, He made sure nobody left the Yankees unless
he wanted them to leave, and they built this unbelievable
business model for everybody but nobody else. You know, then
you started to see these regional sports networks that everybody
wanted to have. When the Dodgers in the Red Sox,
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you're going to have that.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Now we get the Mets, you're going to get this
flow of cash in there that you can reinvest into
your product. I want an owner who is at least
that it matters to him that he cares about it.
But I don't want an owner like didn't Woody Johnson
saying thinking is overrated the other day when he was
asked about the Jets situation. Thinking is overrated. Ah, that's
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your owner. I you know, you make dumb decisions. These
businessmen who become billionaires, and you're accumulating your wealth differently
than trying to build a winner. You're trying to buy
a winner, or you're gonna build a win like David
Tepper in Carolina. I don't care how many billions you got,
(29:39):
Steve Balmer, I don't care how many billions you got.
There are people who do this really well. You hire
football people to do football things, and they don't always
do that, and they think, Hey, I'm a billionaire. Everybody
listens to me. No, you made your You made your
(30:00):
money to buy a team. Now, the best money you'll
spend is to spend it on people who are meant
to do these jobs.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yes, well you have to assume that they made that
money in the first one.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, okay, they could have been given it, that's true.
Fair enough, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
People who are given billions of dollars shuld think that
they're really smart.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I would love to try that. I sure would. I
would too.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'd like to just see if I was smart if
somebody gave me a billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you think if you guys had extremely rich parents,
what do you think you would have done? Would you
have coasted through life or said I can do anything
and worked and gone to work? Like if you're twenty
one and you had a trust fund for ten million dollars,
what do you think, knowing yourself, you would have done?
Does it hard even imagine?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I saw an interview with Julia Luis Dreyfus, the actress,
and I think her parents are fantastically wealthy. Yeah, and
she said a lot of my friends had wealthy parents
and they did nothing. She is I was allowed to
do anything. So I went into comedy and acting because
I had she goes, I had a backup plan.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, it must have been nice.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
That story is a diamond dozen.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, must have been nice, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
I think for me, I'd want to pursue my career
ambition to do something I'm enjoying and having fun looking
forward to when you wake up in the morning but
you're doing something creative and exciting and not having to
live life where everybody's whispering about how you just got
everything handed to you and you didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I would like to have tried it, though, Yeah, yeah,
I position to be. Yeah, I would like I'd like to.
My first car didn't have a floorboard in the back seat,
so I didn't get my license till I was eighteen
because there was no car to drive.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Oh no, what happened?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, didn't have a full So if you sat in
the back seat, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Oh woe is me, flintstones.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
If you sat in the back seat of my sixty
nine Voltswagon, you had to have your feet up because
you could see the pavement underneath. Like the flint stone yes, yes,
I would like to have had a little bit. When
your hand me downs are from your older brother who
is five inches shorter than you, it's kind of tough.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
That's a problem, it is, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
So some people were born on third you were in
the dugout.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I don't even know if I was at the stadium.
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
There are a lot of people who are worse off.
But you know what, we never I never realized what
we didn't have until we went to the neighbor's house
on Christmas morning.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Oh and it was like you, oh my god, yes, Mark.
Speaker 17 (32:39):
Out of the four of us who had who do
you think had the roughest upbringing financially?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, well you didn't have a dad, PAULI didn't have
a dad after he was eleven.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But my dad made a decent living as an ironworker.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You once had a corvette.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That was because of how my dad he had two corvette. Well,
it's because of how my dad died. As I got
the corvette, I.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Thought they were your uncles or something.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
But you were left. So you got the settlement. You
got a corvette.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Well, my mom got a lot of money off the
settlement when my dad died. But when I was like,
which would you rather have dad or a Corvette?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Corvette or a dad, I've.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Had both, I've lost both. I need some time out.
My dad was really cool, so are corvettes.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Yeah, we're coming up on the anniversary of your dad's death.
Thanks for bringing Halloween trick or treat.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But when when I was young, he made a decent
living as an iworker. I've always felt like we were
doing fine as kids.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Well, Marvin didn't have a dad.
Speaker 10 (33:38):
You know what's crazy. I used to tell people.
Speaker 17 (33:40):
I was like, I didn't know I was poor until
I went to somebody else's house.
Speaker 10 (33:45):
Yeah, like growing.
Speaker 17 (33:45):
Up, people were like, oh, I had sugar water manaise sandwiches.
The thought I'd have them on this old English voice,
poverty disgusting, not knowing that we were on Section eight.
And my mother would get me some like a Michigan
starter that I desperately wanted. That was her last sixty
five dollars, but I didn't know that. She told me
my job was not for you to know you're ten.
(34:09):
You're ten, be the man in the house. No, go
to school and take out the garbage.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
So I want you to do your mom did a
great job. She did.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
Yeah, I like her.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
She did a great time. She did a great, great job.
Speaker 10 (34:20):
Her and Marianne. See that I had two parents.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Your mom and your grandmother.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Yeah, yeah, when they called in embarrassing me.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, Bridget's a badass man, Fritzy. Your dad was a
police officer.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
And my mom was a power professional like a teacher's aide.
So we nothing great. We lived in an apartment in
near Coney Island and Brighton Beach, but we were spoiled.
We got to basically what we wanted as far as
board games and video games and things. I don't think
we ever wanted for anything, but I wouldn't say we
were in any kind of wealth situation anymore.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
What about you not two parents that both worked, Yeah,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
That's you know.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
What's great with parents is they shield you from these
things so you don't have that embarrassment that was always
really important that you didn't know that you know you
were you.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Should have more or others had more.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
But I just remember all my friends had Corvette, a
sixty nine, Chevelle, a Mustang fast like.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
They had all had great cars.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I was riding a ten speed bicycle until I was eighteen.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yes, Paul, how.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Did your mom shield you from that?
Speaker 9 (35:29):
Is?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
She didn't tell me about my dad dying for a
year and a half. God bless her heart.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Hey, don't worry. Hey, where's that? Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
You see this. He's at a workluse.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
It's waiting for you for when you're sixteen.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
He went to build a building. He hasn't been back
in a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Look, there's another corvette over there.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
How about we take a break last golf.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
From Cats in the Creek.
Speaker 12 (35:51):
In the Silver Spoon, little boy and man Uh, we're
back after this in The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (36:13):
We're playing the Struggle Olympics over there, all of us
talking about.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
How bad we had when we were growing up.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Lunch might be the most humbling experience I ever had
in my life growing up, because, as I've said before,
we had a local butcher who had three He had
three fingers, he did so my butcher wasn't a very
good butcher.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yes, and he cut that.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
My mom would say, cut the thinnest slices of bologna
you can. And then we would have that with white
bread American cheese, and then we'd have an apple, and
that would be lunch. And I remember staring at people's
lunches that they had. They would have lunchables, or they'd
have a fruit cump, they'd have pudding, they have big sandwiches,
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and you just stare at him.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You'd be like, oh, it must be nice.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yes, they must have looked like royalty to you. You
get two pieces of blodey on your three pieces. I
know through one piece of Blooney's gonna have to hold
me till three in the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
But look at me, now, look at you. Now you
have the last laugh. I don't know that that's that's
a laugh of goy. This is sad.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Now you have the thickest bolooney.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Whoa, that's right, I've seen it.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Tell me something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's a pivotal game three tonight Dodgers in the match,
and then it'll be a pivotal game five as well.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Always a pivotal game. Three. Oh, what a day, what
a day.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's fun. We accomplished something today. How about this day
in sports history?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Paul Right, I got a couple for you. Nineteen forty
six hockey Gordy Howe of the Redwick. In nineteen forty six,
he played his first NHL game, and he played his
last about a month and a half ago. Nat True,
Joe Namath, you mentioned him being on Super Famous nineteen
seventy two. He made his first ever cover of Time
magazine seventy two. And oh this is said. Nineteen ninety one,
(38:27):
Roy Tarpoli the Mavericks became the seventh player band from
the NBA for Life Life Anti Drug Agreement.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, yeah, he had a he had a rough rough
rough time. Here's one I didn't know. Nineteen seventy seven,
the Vikings beat the Bears in overtime with the only
successful fake field goal in NFL overtime.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
So a fake field goal.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Also on this day, nineteen sixty eight, Tommy Smith John
Carlos gave the Black Power salute. That was the two
hundred meter podium in Atlantic City.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Are in Mexico City.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't remember the Atlantic City.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah, wasn't the Atlantic City games es.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Actually, Mexico City is essentially, the Atlantic city.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Of Mexico, or vice versa Atlantic city is the Mexico
city of Marvin in Texas. Hi, Marvin, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 18 (39:20):
Good morning Dan, Thanks for taking my call. First off,
can I say something to Marvin before we get started?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 18 (39:28):
Well, you know, I was told one time, Marvin that
only thirty white guys an old black man are named Marvin,
and I really don't think that I fit that category.
But one thing that we don't have in common is
small hands.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
All right, Well, thank you Marvin.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
All right, Marvin, I'm not sure why he has to
call up and make fun of your hands.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
We can, but he can't.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
That was her.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
We're having a good day, we were. You almost had
a great day, almost almost. Marvin to Todd, what did
you learn today?
Speaker 7 (40:00):
If your work is referred to as solid and improving,
I wouldn't take that as a strong compliment.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, well, the dan Net's heard that in a long
time ago.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Seatan, Dan Lanning's moved on.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yes, he's not gonna talk about that twelve Dwell, No, Marvin,
what did you learn today?
Speaker 10 (40:15):
You won the struggle Olympics? Uh no in this room?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Paulie, Dad's and corvettes.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
It's a push, yeah, Todd, What did I learn to Rgan's.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Dan Lanning has many different alarm set but basically gets
his day going between four thirty and five in the morning.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
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