June 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes have a conversation about snacks that probably could have been had off the air. And college athletics insider Paul Finebaum stops by to explain the recent court ruling allowing schools to pay college athletes directly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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(00:21):
Finebaumb of the Mothership will join us. We'll talk about
where we're going with the NCAA. The settlement opens the
door for schools to pay athletes directly. What could go wrong.
We'll talk to Paul about that and what it means
to you for you the football fan. I don't know
if it will mean anything that you'll be able to
(00:42):
see right away, but we'll talk to Paul about that.
Pole question for the final hour of the program, Seaton
is going to.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Be well, we haven't really discussed this one on the
air much or well not much, not really actually at all,
but it's more of a story off air.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh better Corn, Chip Doritos or Frito's better? Who is
having this conversation?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
This?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I am okay with anybody else?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We have a bag of Frito's back there, and that
made me wonder which I prefer more Fritos or Dorito's.
I'm much more of a Dorito's guy, I think, But
I'm appreciating these friedos a lot. Made me wonder if
I've been underappreciating them.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You're kind of sneaky snacker. You're the sneaky snacker. I'm
a constant snacker. Yeah, I'm a sneaky snacker, but I do.
I'll catch seating in there, and I can hear, you know,
we have these gumball machines, but we filled them up
with jelly beans and Eminem's, and I'll just hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
These nerds clusters back there, and now all of a
sudden there's these sweet tart ropes and like a jolly
rancher rope.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
My will is truly being tested on a minute by
minute basis.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Feels like the nachos are a little more decadent as
opposed to Fredos. FreeDOS are a staple Dorito's. It feels
like here like I'm in the mood for Doritos. Fredo's
They're always there, Yes, ton, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I would lean towards Dorito's but uh, very Fredos is
a don't sleep on, especially the Fredo scoops. Once you
start doing the scoop, then there it is a difference
between corn shift and s there it is.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They made it easier on us scoop then yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You could dip it in stuff and that's a good
idea of the scoop.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
J Yes, and Fridos have a versatile personality. You could
use Fritos in chili. You could use Fritos in a
lot of different ways. Personal snack.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, right now, sixty percent of the audience take Dorito's though.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, yes, Ton, do you remember the old Fredo's commercial
Munch A bunch of munch and much much uch of
Fritos goes with lunch. It was a very popular commercial
back in the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Day, probably nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Probably little yeah, early to mid eighties, right on.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There, Yeah, go figure much a bunch of Fritos goes
with lunch?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Thank you, Ton.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We got hockey coming up tonight. It's Game three, hopefully
more overtime. Panthers and the Eulers Thunder. They tie the
series and now it goes to Indiana. Next game will
be Wednesday night. I think the Commissioner of the NBA.
Adam Silver's joining us on Wednesday. That's correct, all right,
probably from Indiana.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I would hope so okay inter students showing up at
the game. That would be a great place for him
to be.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, last night, pretty impressive the Pacers of the first
team in twelve years to not have a twenty point
score in the first two games of the NBA Finals.
I'm all for balance scoring, but I would need to
have a little more balance with that scoring. And that's
the problem. Can you score enough to beat Okac and
(03:42):
Okasee has been very resilient. They're five and oh this postseason.
After a loss and with shake shake Gilchess, Alexander is
going to get his points. He's going to get thirty
and it's rare when you go, okay, that guy's getting
thirty in the postseason. He's the eighth player in NBA
(04:02):
history to score thirty four or more in each of
the first two games of the NBA Finals. Joining and
these are all Hall of famers Lebron Shack, Jordan Kareem,
Jerry West, John Hailcheck, and Elgin Baylor. Brought to you
(04:25):
by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan
Patrick Show. As you know, I've stumbled upon Facebook, so
I do in my downtime go through and watch videos.
Golf videos could be music icons playing in a concert,
could be basketball related or baseball football related. And I
(04:47):
came across some John Havelcheck highlights. And John Habilcheck is
a Hall of Famer with the Boston Celtics. I think
he had twenty six thousand points in his career and
it's an oh, by the way, twenty six down. He
wasn't even the best guy on his own college team.
That was Jerry Lucas, and he played on the same
team Bob Knight was on that team. But Bob wasn't
(05:10):
a great college player. But Hondo his nickname, John Habilcheck.
He was a He kind of married a couple of
different generations of the Celtics, so you had him with
Russell and Coozie, and then he was the sixth man.
He created the sixth Man of the Year award or
it was created because of him. And then he played
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with Dave Cowens, you know, so he was sort of
that bridge with the Celtics. And his stats are unbelievable, unbelievable,
but He's one of those guys that you just you
kind of lump him in with all the Celtics. Well,
he's different than most of the Celtics because Dave Cowens,
who played with Habilcheck, is quoted as saying he would
(05:55):
take habile Check over Larry Bird. Now you know he
played with Halcheck, Dave didn't play with Larry. But still
that's high praise for John Havelcheck, who was a guy
who never stopped. If you watched him play, he was
in constant motion. If you look at you know, the
(06:17):
way Reggie Miller played, it was constant motion. Habilcheck's the
first guy I remember who never stopped. And you know
that if you talk to somebody who plays defense, it's
the guy who never stops who's really hard to guard.
And he was a wonderful player, clutch player and probably
an eleven time, twelve time All Star. Yeah, PAULI, Yeah,
(06:39):
you're right.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
He stopped playing in seventy eight, thirteen straight All Star appearances,
first Team All NBA Defense seven straight years, and during
those years he's averaging like twenty seven, twenty four, twenty six. Yeah,
all purpose player. He's a great example of the TV
era missed him, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But he was involved in one one of the greatest games,
craziest games that was against the Phoenix Suns against the
Boston Celtics. When Boston thought they had won the game,
fans are storm in the court and there was like,
I don't know, a second left and that's when you
had gar Heard hitting the shot that sent it into overtime.
(07:21):
As one of my favorite series because I love the
Phoenix Suns, Alvin Adams and Ricky Sobers. They were a
fun team to watch, but the Boston Celtics a wild
finish at the Garden. Yeah, Havilchak sort.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of like in his movement, it made me think of
Steph Curry. He's sort of always just going. Is that
would that be similar? Or well he wasn't. He wasn't
the shooter.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He was a score yeah, but the movement of just yeah, yeah,
he never stops. Yes, constant, constant motion. And I just
used to be you know, guys would stand around in
the NBA back in the day. But Havelcheck. I remember
reading an article what makes John Havelcheck Run? That was
(08:08):
the title the article. Because he never stopped and he
probably could have been a great marathon runner, and he
was a great athlete. I think the Cleveland Browns drafted
him as maybe a tight end. Yeah, Pauly, he had.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Eight titles again in thirteen years. I think what happens
to guys like him? Remember that Steelers team that's seven
eight year run with the Steelers in the seventies and
early eighties. All their players end up in the Hall
of Fame, but they kind of get lumped together as
a group, And like Jack Lambert, if you said who's
the greatest middle linebacker of all time? Jack Lambert from
the Steelers, his name doesn't come up because he's almost
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like part of a group. And Havelcheck is not a
standalone he's a Celtic great or a Steeler great. So
you're kind of it's a good thing because you go
to the Hall of Fame because of it, but it's
a negative for your personal career.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sam Jones to me was an incredible player, but you
know there was k C. Jones on the same team,
but Sam Jones was a very underrated player. And you're
right because it was top heavy with Kuzi and Russell,
and you find this with certain teams where it's so
top heavy that the other players are kind of complimentary,
(09:15):
Like Habilchek was a complimentary player to Russell and Kuzi,
but he was not you know, even Tommy Heinzen was
a wonderful player. You do get lost in that winning.
I guess that's a good thing to get lost in
a winning tradition.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, Paul, like Klay Thompson, Clay Thompson's career is going
to be very memorable, and he's got titles like crazy.
He's got no records for scoring or team records, but
I think you'd prefer that then the average thirty for
five years with the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh, I'm winning titles. Like winning titles is getting him
into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
If Hablcheck played for the Atlanta Hawks, he'd have crazy
stats and we never talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He would probably not be a Hall of Famer. You
win titles. It's like they held it against the Vikings
when they lost four Super Bowls. They've held that against
the Buffalo Bills getting there. I mean, there has to
be it has to be rewarded, and we are a
bottom line, you know, sports society, Did you win?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I always the way we looked at teams who got
blown out in the super Bowl. It's like, oh, those
guys suck, those guys are terrible, Like they made it
to the super Bowl, but we would always look at
who won, never get like you know, lebron getting to
an NBA Finals and getting to the finals as many times,
even if he lost, it's a monumental achievement to get
(10:41):
there as many times. Yes, Marvin, I.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Think that's why people look back at what John Elway
did in those early years when he got the Broncos
to the Super Bowl and he lost against some great,
great teams, and it's like, well, look who we bought
to the super Bowl, and you saw what happened When
he got a good running game in a good defense,
you could see him start winning super Bowls when he
got a complete team.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But if he doesn't win those Super Bowls, I don't
know if we look at him as a Hall of
Famer because he was being embarrassed or his teams were
being embarrassed in Super Bowls, not giving him the credit
he deserved to get his team to the super Bowl
because those offenses weren't good.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yes, and there's some baseball teams like that. The late
seventies Dodgers with Ron Say and Marshall and all Garvey.
You can't even get to all the names your team,
the Reds. I think that's the most talented baseball team
of my lifetime, the late mid to late seventies Reds.
You can't even keep track of all the Hall of
famers on that team. And Johnny Bench might be the
only one who gets the greatest of all time treatment.
(11:42):
You know, I don't think Dave concept Joan gets his due.
He's part of a group with the Reds.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and Pres is not considered one of the great
first basement of all time. Pete's one of the great
players of all time, Joe Morgan one of the great
second basemen of all time. And Johnny, you know, if
not the best catcher of all time, certainly on the
short list there.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yes, Marvin, Sorry, going back to something you said earlier,
you said John Away wouldn't be considered a Hall of
Famer or just maybe in the Marino conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It might be in the Marino, but Marino was putting
up better numbers than John Back then you weren't throwing
for thirty touchdowns. I don't think Montana or Elway. Maybe
one time they threw for thirty or thirty one touchdown passes.
It was just a different game. And that's why when
you say somebody to look at Bart's Starr or Bob
Greesi's stats and go why is he a Hall of Famer?
(12:34):
It was different back then. What you were asked to do.
You were a game manager. That's why whenever I talk
about a game manager, I mean it's based off what
I saw with some of the greatest quarterbacks of all
time who played in a different generation. And Johnny United
is Bart Starr, Bob Greasy like they managed the game.
(12:58):
You want me to throw twenty five times, you want
me to throw fifteen, okay, And I look at that
as high praise. I think Patrick Mahomes is more of
a game manager now, and it's not a negative, Like
he'll manage the game until he needs to go solo
and maybe you know, you get to the fourth quarter,
(13:19):
you know Tom Brady managed the game as well as
anybody who's ever played, and then you get to the
point where you go, Okay, now we need you to
go above and beyond. We need you to put on
a cape. Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There has to be different ways to use game manager,
because game manager before was it felt like more you
put this guy in and said just don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, and we'll try to win it. You're right and
I and that's not fair, you know to somebody like
Patrick Mahomes who's managing a game in a completely different way. Yeah,
I need to come up with a better term, a
complimentary term, because then all of a sudden somebody say, hey,
Patrick Mahomes, Dan Patrick, call you a game manager, although
he might go, yeah, I mean I have to manage
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the game. That's the position.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, game manager sounds like a guy who's middle
of the road, maybe still wears a name tag at work.
But if you said game ceo, that means that guy's
the boss. You know you can make the decisions. Yeah,
you're right, you're right, game ceo. Gotta come up with
a game ceo.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I don't catch on. That won't work shop then yes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Director captain, Like what the what word could fit there?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, captain, there's already captains on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
But like you're so used to the word manager, but
it does have that a negative connotation to it, and
it's gonna always have that unless they come up.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
With something else.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Haircut looks fresh? Thanks, yeah, get that.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Over the weekend I did my wife did a little
buzz cut. Went a little too short, but for the summer,
there's not much to work with anyway. She made some
kind of silver fox comments, tongue in cheek, whatever, a little.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Bit of hair, the green light like that, she waved
your home. Were you guys sitting in bathtubs?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
The walls just fell away and all of a sudden,
magical forest appeared, and you two walked hand in hands
toward two bethtubs.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Are you Are you driving a convertible, a Mustang convertible room?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Perhaps your hands touched slightly and the look, oh, I like.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Your versions of it as opposed to what actually happened
a lot more exciting the way you guys she said
it with an eye roll and like, you know, tongue
in cheek cut of thing, as opposed to like, hey,
you know, kids aren't here, and silver fox, you got
a nice haircut.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I just gave you let's ticket to take it upstairs.
It wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Sorry to hear that, buddy.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Damn, it's just a haircut.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Well, she's kind of a game manager though. Yeah he
really it was only kiss. Yeah, only a kiss.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I made a sandwich and she went to go watch
Real Fortune or something.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
That was really the end of that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Uh, Tim in Ohio? Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Ok?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
How's it going?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Good?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Good?
Speaker 10 (15:53):
Six feet.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Falling in?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Say about the lid? All So that's the weekend. That
RBC Canadian Open was awesome. That shot Ryan Fox hit
on eighteen said it was the best shot he ever
hid in his life.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
An incredible theater.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
But Joaquin Neeman winning the Live Tour was also awesome.
He's won five to he finished top ten in the
last couple of majors. You said that the US Open
was not exciting. It was exciting last year with Roy
McElroy and Bryson D Schambeau. Coming down to it, all, Right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
When did I say the US Open wasn't exciting?
Speaker 10 (16:33):
He said he wanted to be more exciting with it
coming down to here's players that are coming into eighteen
with a plot to win it or lose it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh, but I want more players to challenge Scottie Scheffler, Right,
But that.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
Weren't they challenging him the last year at the US Open.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I want more. I want more of it. I'm
looking at the odds here. Tim Scheffler is an overwhelming
favorite to win the US Open. I'm I'm hopeful that
it's a coming down eighteen and they're going toe to toe,
so I'm rooting for more of that. I brought up
examples where nobody really challenged Tiger, or if they did,
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it was guys like rock O Mediate and you know,
Bob may So. That's the point. But thank you for
the phone call, and I congratulations to Joaque Neman. He's
a great player. I don't think anybody's denying that. But
when you went on the live tour, if a tree
falls in the forest, they were shorts, though, and they
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play music, or maybe they don't do the music anymore,
they realize how stupid that is. Hey, look at us,
We're playing some music. Who's having fun? I mean, no, no,
we are. Who has more fun than us?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No money?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
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Speaker 1 (19:02):
Big doings with college athletics. NCAA settlement opens the door
for schools to pay athletes directly. Paul Finebam, hosts of
the Paul Fine Bomb Show, Voice of the SEC, joining
us on the program. All right, what does this mean
for the fan? Let me start out. Let's just say
college football fan, what is this going to mean now?
(19:24):
Five years down, ten years down the road?
Speaker 13 (19:27):
Dan, It means very little really because this is all complicated,
a lot of legal mumbo jumbo. What I think if
it will really mean though, if you're a fan of
a group of five school, if you're a fan of
a school somewhere in the middle, get ready for hard times.
This is only going to help the richere. You heard
that before the big leagues, the Big ten, the SEC
(19:51):
will more than likely profit because they have so much money.
Women's sports, in my opinion, will be hurt. Olympic sports
will be crushed. Football wins Basketball, Other than maybe the
Big East takes a slight back seat.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What happens to the NCUBA.
Speaker 13 (20:11):
The NCAA is essentially dead, and I know a lot
of people are celebrating, but the damage that has been
done by this organization is incalculable, and it's really about time.
What did we grow up thinking about when we thought
of the NCAA DAN the enforcement part of it, The
big bad NCUBA is coming to your town. They don't
(20:33):
even have any jurisdiction for that anymore, by the way,
not that they have in about the last five years.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
They've been completely ineffective.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
So if you're the NCAA president who happened to be
Charlie Baker, you get the fly around on a luxury plane,
you work in a taj mahal, you stay at five
star resorts, but essentially you have absolutely nothing to do
but try to look busy.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Is Division one too big?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yes? Right now?
Speaker 13 (21:02):
In college sports. Piggybacking off of what I said in
the preamble, it's really about the top it's pyramid, and
the idea that a college basketball tournament, which used to
be one of the greatest moments on the calendar, has
now been reduced to a battle of the elite is
really unfortunate. But there's no way if you're a small
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college basketball program like a Butler ten years ago or
some of these other programs that have just been so exciting.
Davidson making a run with Steph Curry. You really don't
have a chance. And I know that sounds deflating, but
and even if you are good, if you have a
junior or a sophomore, he's going to one of the
(21:48):
top teams for his final year, he's not sticking around.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
A couple of things that came to mind is an il,
the transfer portal, signing contracts that might make it tougher
to transfer, Can schools buy out a player from his
and I I mean, I don't. It's the wild while West.
So these are all these questions that I had, So
(22:14):
pick one of those if you've got a juicy answer.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Yeah, I mean, right now, the biggest issue in college
athletics is the portal. That's what coaches scream about because
they're constantly on the go having to re recruit their roster.
So I think that's really where the action is. I'm
not sure this agreement is going to affect that, and
I don't mean to be one of those guys that
says it's actually going to get worse in some regard,
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but there are going to be more lawsuits, and I
think you're going to see Title nine lawsuits about where
does I mean, right after we've had the greatest explosion
of women's sports, especially in basketball, women's softball.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Now it's going to be curtailed.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
What is really going on, and it's very much out
in the open, is the commissioners of college sports on
federal intervention. It's interesting Dan that yesterday up in New Jersey,
the athletic director and Notre Dame who used to be
in the PGA, so he knew the president very well
from his days there, and the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference,
Greg Zenki, played golf with Donald Trump with the idea
(23:17):
of trying to get him to do what Congress has
not done in four or five years. Despite a lot
of smoke. And I'm not a political analyst, this president
has quite a bully pulpit, and he does seem, at
least for the time being, to be very interested in
college athletics. And some of that is because he's a
sports fan. He's gone to a number of games, he
(23:39):
likes the arena, so he could help in the short term.
But from a legal standpoint, almost everything will be challenged
at some point. But the idea of Congress making, you know,
giving college athletics an anti trust exemption limiting college athletes.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
In terms of what they can make. I think it
was still remains fairly slim.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Paul Fine Baumb of The Mothership, The Paul Fine Baumb Show,
The Voice of the SEC. Also, schools are going to
get twenty and a half million dollars to play with.
And where does that money come from.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
It comes from the same place that it's always coming from,
donations boosters. I mean, that's all. I saw Kirby's mart
the other day. He was on his way to a fundraiser.
That's all they do. They recruit and fundraised. They don't
do a lot of coaching in the off season, and ultimately,
if you have fat cats.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And in some ways they.
Speaker 13 (24:37):
Believe that this new agreement is going to cut the
billionaire booster like the one in Miami a couple of
years ago, the one that Texas take out. I don't
think so, Dan, You're never going to cut those guys out.
And the idea that they hired an ex Major League
Baseball official who was a former US attorney. He's going
to be in charge of enforcements. Please, that's not going
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to happen every school. We will challenge anything that comes
down the pipe like like we've seen in recent years,
and there will be no enforcement whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The transfer portal thing is I think what that's what
drives coaches crazy. And I mean you're poaching guys, you
know when they were playing in you know, the playoffs
college football playoffs. There were two players that I was
told they're negotiating to play someplace. Having that window we've
(25:34):
talked about, is there a way to make the transfer
portal the window smaller to be fair to those playing
in playoff games, to these coaches as well.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
Yes, I mean there's two transfer portals right now. The
second one is not particularly important, that's that one just
ended a couple of weeks ago. But the one right
after the season is. And the problem is that it
where do you put it right now? It lands right
after the championship games, but before the bowl in playoff games.
And the story is pretty famous about the backup quarterback
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at Penn State last year just he decided to leave
and you know they didn't need him, but ultimately it
could have been a disaster. So I don't think there's
anywhere to put that, because nowadays you don't want to
wait to right now to get your your seniors on
your campus. You will all the great programs get the
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best players in December before that's in December of their
senior year, Dan, not not afterwards, And so the portal
has to be there, and I don't think they can
do much about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It just feels like we're eventually going to get to
fifty schools, right, that's where we're headed, right.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
Right, And we're also going to get collective bargaining at
some point. I don't know why college administrators just don't
want to. It's that they're paying the players. But as
soon as I say this, and it's and we know
everything that has happened, you'll get You'll get an athletic
director on your show next week or a coach and
he'll use this phrase, Dan, you know the student athletes,
please don't face because that's the most laughable uh statement
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and word, well, not the most laughable, but at least
in the college sports parlance right now. But they they're
stuck on it, and they just want to act like
this isn't really going on around them. It reminds me
of the piano player in the House of Bill reputed
as people are as businessmen are walking up and down
they're just playing the piano.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I think, like they're not seeing a thing.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I want to centralize college football office scheduling.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Good luck, can we? I mean, I like what you're going,
where you're going.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
The problem is that you have these four power four
commissioners and they are essentially like the bosses of the
of the of the New York families back in the day.
The Brooklyn's not giving into Staten Island and Manhattan's not
giving into Queens. They meet twice a year at the
best Italian restaurant in Little Italy, and that you hope
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nobody gets killed.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But it's all about money, Paul, and there's more money
to be made. They love making their money. So at
some point in my lifetime, I think, we get to
fifty colleges and you are playing, and then there's everybody else.
I just think, and there's gonna be some schools that
might go, you know what, We're gonna drop football. It's
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we don't want to spend money or you know, these
these these are strange, so maybe you do, you know,
drop divisions.
Speaker 13 (28:40):
But the one thing I'll say, and I'm not a Pollyanna,
but you know, come September on a Saturday night when
we're watching Ohio State and Texas and arch Manning has
the ball on fourth and one with the goal on,
we won't care about any of these things. The games
are fantastic, just like everything that you're watching in hockey
and basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But the offseason is just brutal.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But when it's November eighth and it's Georgia versus Mercer,
then I have a problem with that, Paul.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I agree.
Speaker 13 (29:11):
But nowadays, because the playoff remains as convoluted as ever,
we're going to get at least three of the two.
Every every program at least and is going to is
going to have at least two.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of those games. I mean, look at some of the schedules.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
Penn State has an embarrassing non conference schedule this year,
and they're one of the favorites to win the national championship.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Good to talk to you, Paul, as always, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
That's Paul Finbaum, The Mothership, The Paul Feinbaum Show, Voice
of the SEC. He's right, I mean, that's what I
want to know for us the college fan. What's it mean?
Does it mean anything?
Speaker 6 (29:50):
All? Right?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Maybe less transfer portal? I think that would be fair
to the game coaches. You know you're team as opposed
to the team you're joining. I'm all for the athletes
making money whatever you want to make great, but please,
you know we frame this as student athletes that came
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up back in the seventies by Wald Buyers who ran
the nc DOUBLEA. It was brilliant. The student athlete, Oh,
the student athlete. It's the athletics student. Let's be honest here,
the athletics student. Okay, take a break, last call for
phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? Right
after this, be sure to catch the live edition of
(30:35):
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
One of the great shooters of all time, Ray Allen,
will join us on the program tomorrow, sneaking a couple
more phone calls this day in sports history. Also, I
do hear this a lot with the NCUBA, where all
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of a sudden they're going to limit scholarships, and hey,
some of these programs are going to go away, the
swimming team, or the volleyball team, or women's softball, whatever
it might be. If a school would really want to
keep those programs, they can't. How much money would it
cost to keep the women's volleyball team, How much would
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it cost to add money to the women's basketball program?
How much? But we always use that as well, Hey,
you're going to have this, and that means these programs
go away. You're gonna have to do away with all
that if you really like, what do you do with
your endowment? Feels like you just you know, you're reinvesting,
(31:40):
or you're putting it into stocks, or you're building buildings
or you know, do you want your volleyball team or
women's softball team, your football team. Do you still want
it to be recognized? You can do it. The question
is do you want to spend that money because it
feels like all of these schools have an endowment that
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if you wanted to do this, you could. I don't
want them, these schools.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
To go out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
We're gonna have to get rid of these programs. Don't
use that as an excuse. Yes, yeah, I mean I
get the purpose of an endowment. And you're sort of
ensuring the long term viability of the school right that
it's going to stay open and keep operating. In your
many many years in advance. But those are a lot
of times those are It's the endowment is really an investment.
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It's in stocks and bonds and real estate and you know,
I don't know, venture capital or private equity, all of
those things. It feels like you could peel a little
bit of money away from that and set up some
type of fund within the endowment to ensure that those
other Olympic sports stay active. Yeah, I would guess. Yeah,
I'm hoping Stanford doesn't have I mean, I'd invest in that.
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My Olympic sports there, track, team, swimming, whatever it might
be with Stanford. I mean that people, it's not your
football program, although Andrew Luck is there now, and maybe
they're going to reinvest in.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Ah, reinvest to devidends dedends.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, we're gonna have to get with get rid of swimming.
And I mean, how much money does it cost to
run a swimming program or lacrosse or whatever. Oh, I'm
get off my lawn mood today, This day in sports history,
Paul I.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Got a bunch for you, Dan, old school ones which
would be redundant because it's sports history. Nineteen fourteen, Honus
Wagner second player in MLB history to get three thousand hits.
Nineteen seventy three, Secretariat won the Belmont by thirty one
leans hikes. Those other short horses should be embarrassed to
show their faces. Nineteen eighty four, the Pittsburgh Penguins use
the first pick of the draft to select Mary Leo
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Gott to call that when it worked out a little bit.
Eighty five, the Lakers won the NBA title, beating the Celtics.
Kareem had twenty nine in the final game. Monica sellis
second youngest youngest winner in French OPN history, beating stephie
Graff in nineteen ninety. Patrick wah two thousand and one,
three straight con Smyth trophies.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Patrick, I used to host this show, the NBA on ESPN,
and I bring this up because I watched the show
last night at halftime with the mother Ship. Three guys
talking at once is not good TV. Listen to your host,
(34:34):
let your host direct. But it's not good TV. It's
just not and it can be. But we have this
philosophy now of louder is better. I'm just gonna keep
yelling louder and then maybe you'll trail off and then
(34:54):
I'll take over you don't have that much time at
halftime because there's always a promo and commercial, so then
you get sixty seconds. Be strategic. Not everybody has to talk,
Not everybody has to have a hot take. How about
you just have something where you go, you got fifteen seconds,
you got fifteen, you got fifteen, make the best of it.
(35:16):
And this is any show that I've ever been on
as a host. My job was always to be John Stockton.
I wanted you to look good, sound good, but you
got to listen to me, and I think making sure
you have direction. But at one point you have three
people talking. It's just not good.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Not good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
See, I've noticed a similar thing happened too with like
morning radio, and it drives me crazy because there are
sometimes that, like say a debate format works or like
high ended, like all of those things work, and then
there's other times a day that it really doesn't work
at all. And there are times that like I'll be
driving into work and I could just hear people already
like arguing with each other, and it's like, you know,
(36:01):
do you know how many people are going into work
that day, probably to a job that they don't like,
with coworkers that they don't really like and all they
want to do is just get through their commute without
having to listen to people argue.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And already it's bus is not a good sports town
or you kidding, But now you've really got me going.
Now you've really take me off. Bus is not a
good sports down really, and go dude, it's six forty
five in the morning. I haven't even had a cup
of coffee yet. Chill out, dude. Why are we yelling
at each other. Nobody wants to hear you. I mean,
you're telling me Phildelphia it's a better sports down than
Oh my god, dude, just stop, bro. And I think
(36:37):
that we've got into this culture now where we have
to disagree, and you know, having been on the inside
at the Mothership, there would be times when I would
do Sports Center and you go, all right, who's going
to take that side? And then who's going to take
that side? And then you'd have somebody say, well, I
agree with that side, but I'll take the other side.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Just to argue.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'll go okay, And we feel like that's you know,
Michael and Tony on part of the Interruption. They did it.
They created, you know, an art form to that. Now
they do argue sometimes, but you know, sometimes you can
create a blueprint. Oberman and myself created a blueprint for
(37:18):
sports Center. Okay, it was unique, unique to the time,
but that doesn't mean everybody should try to emulate that
part of the interruption. Not everybody should try to emulate that,
Or if you want to try to emulate it, then
try to do it the way they are instead of
yelling back and forth and scream because it just your
point never gets across the way you wanted to. You're
(37:41):
just trying to win by wearing somebody down. And I
know we're supposed to embrace debate, never did and I
never will, not in this form. And if that's debate.
Last night, at halftime of the NBA Finals, get a beer,
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uh Nick and Irvine? Hey Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Hey Dan? I got the best and the worst and
then one other thing.
Speaker 15 (38:11):
So worst of the weekend definitely Dodgers run support.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Why do they have show? Hey leading off?
Speaker 15 (38:16):
He's gonna have more home runs than the RBIs if
they don't.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Put him in a third or second. Best was the
Nation League Final yesterday.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
That was a heck of a game from the very
beginning very entertaining, and I think it's a kind of
an aberration.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
But I think both of those teams are so.
Speaker 15 (38:33):
Good they would have beaten the champion League PSG the
champion league team.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Usually it's the other way.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
Around, and you were talking about what's better watching the
game or app chopping it up afterwards watching the game,
especially like let's say Dodgers Yankees in the World Series
last year. If you're a Dodger fan or Yankee fan,
you're so invested it's painful. It's it's hard to enjoy
it in the moment. But you know when I see
a guy wearing a Yankee hat walking around like that,
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walking around town, and I say, hey, how about them
Dodgers or Celtics fan, And I'm like, no childer today,
And you know, how about them Lakers?
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Game seven?
Speaker 14 (39:11):
That's so much better, so satisfying, well, only after you've won,
because when they win and then they say something to you,
then it's not as satisfying.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Jim in Michigan, Hi, Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (39:26):
I made parallel of a comment you made earlier. This
is about Scotti Scheffler. I've kind of backed away for
golf but I would in years gone by, I would
devote a lot of time to watch TV, watch any
tournament on TV. But it's gotten to the point. I
was watching the memorial and if Scotty's up by three
or more, it's almost a yawn. I respect him as
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a player, and it's family and all that, but it's
it's not that exciting, and it's frustrating when I could
just see they turn it off and go out and
cut the grass, versus watching watch him hold on to
a lead.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
That's my comment.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
No, I get it, I get it. There's no wow
factor there. Tiger had wow factor, Jack Nicholas had wow factor,
you know, but there's very few that moved the needle,
you know. Rory's got wow factor, Deshambo's got wow factor,
Michelson had it because you're never quite sure what you
were going to see. I like Brooks Koepka. I mean,
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he's not a dynamic personality and I don't know if
he'll win again, but you don't know once he got
five majors. Yeah, I mean, it's it's tough to have
that tune in factor because you're following that the guy
who gave us tune in factor on a golf course
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in Tiger because you didn't want to miss it, because
you knew there was something. You know, A six iron
out of the bunker over the water at the RBC
many many, many many years ago. Yes, Mark the Scotty's
a great player, but not a star. He's like Sga.
He just damn he gets it done. He's efficient. What'd
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you learn today, Todd?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
It doesn't make sense for the Knicks to hire Jason
Kidd unless they can reunite him with Giannis and not
give up too much in return.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
See no O'Connor. The NCAAA is essentially dead. Marvin Sga
and Lou Dort roommates Paul.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
A lot of Jerry Curl talk.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
What did I learn?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Tom The Rams paid their backup qub more last season
than the Raiders paid all their quarterbacks combined.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
What We'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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(00:21):
Finebaumb of the Mothership will join us. We'll talk about
where we're going with the NCAA. The settlement opens the
door for schools to pay athletes directly. What could go wrong.
We'll talk to Paul about that and what it means
to you for you the football fan. I don't know
if it will mean anything that you'll be able to
(00:42):
see right away, but we'll talk to Paul about that.
Pole question for the final hour of the program, Seaton
is going to.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Be well, we haven't really discussed this one on the
air much or well not much, not really actually at all,
but it's more of a story off air.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh better Corn, Chip Doritos or Frito's better? Who is
having this conversation?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
This?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I am okay with anybody else?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We have a bag of Frito's back there, and that
made me wonder which I prefer more Fritos or Dorito's.
I'm much more of a Dorito's guy, I think, But
I'm appreciating these friedos a lot. Made me wonder if
I've been underappreciating them.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You're kind of sneaky snacker. You're the sneaky snacker. I'm
a constant snacker. Yeah, I'm a sneaky snacker, but I do.
I'll catch seating in there, and I can hear, you know,
we have these gumball machines, but we filled them up
with jelly beans and Eminem's, and I'll just hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
These nerds clusters back there, and now all of a
sudden there's these sweet tart ropes and like a jolly
rancher rope.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
My will is truly being tested on a minute by
minute basis.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Feels like the nachos are a little more decadent as
opposed to Fredos. FreeDOS are a staple Dorito's. It feels
like here like I'm in the mood for Doritos. Fredo's
They're always there, Yes, ton, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I would lean towards Dorito's but uh, very Fredos is
a don't sleep on, especially the Fredo scoops. Once you
start doing the scoop, then there it is a difference
between corn shift and s there it is.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They made it easier on us scoop then yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You could dip it in stuff and that's a good
idea of the scoop.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
J Yes, and Fridos have a versatile personality. You could
use Fritos in chili. You could use Fritos in a
lot of different ways. Personal snack.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, right now, sixty percent of the audience take Dorito's though.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, yes, Ton, do you remember the old Fredo's commercial
Munch A bunch of munch and much much uch of
Fritos goes with lunch. It was a very popular commercial
back in the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Day, probably nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Probably little yeah, early to mid eighties, right on.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There, Yeah, go figure much a bunch of Fritos goes
with lunch?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Thank you, Ton.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We got hockey coming up tonight. It's Game three, hopefully
more overtime. Panthers and the Eulers Thunder. They tie the
series and now it goes to Indiana. Next game will
be Wednesday night. I think the Commissioner of the NBA.
Adam Silver's joining us on Wednesday. That's correct, all right,
probably from Indiana.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I would hope so okay inter students showing up at
the game. That would be a great place for him
to be.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, last night, pretty impressive the Pacers of the first
team in twelve years to not have a twenty point
score in the first two games of the NBA Finals.
I'm all for balance scoring, but I would need to
have a little more balance with that scoring. And that's
the problem. Can you score enough to beat Okac and
(03:42):
Okasee has been very resilient. They're five and oh this postseason.
After a loss and with shake shake Gilchess, Alexander is
going to get his points. He's going to get thirty
and it's rare when you go, okay, that guy's getting
thirty in the postseason. He's the eighth player in NBA
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history to score thirty four or more in each of
the first two games of the NBA Finals. Joining and
these are all Hall of famers Lebron Shack, Jordan Kareem,
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(04:25):
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Patrick Show. As you know, I've stumbled upon Facebook, so
I do in my downtime go through and watch videos.
Golf videos could be music icons playing in a concert,
could be basketball related or baseball football related. And I
(04:47):
came across some John Havelcheck highlights. And John Habilcheck is
a Hall of Famer with the Boston Celtics. I think
he had twenty six thousand points in his career and
it's an oh, by the way, twenty six down. He
wasn't even the best guy on his own college team.
That was Jerry Lucas, and he played on the same
team Bob Knight was on that team. But Bob wasn't
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a great college player. But Hondo his nickname, John Habilcheck.
He was a He kind of married a couple of
different generations of the Celtics, so you had him with
Russell and Coozie, and then he was the sixth man.
He created the sixth Man of the Year award or
it was created because of him. And then he played
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with Dave Cowens, you know, so he was sort of
that bridge with the Celtics. And his stats are unbelievable, unbelievable,
but He's one of those guys that you just you
kind of lump him in with all the Celtics. Well,
he's different than most of the Celtics because Dave Cowens,
who played with Habilcheck, is quoted as saying he would
(05:55):
take habile Check over Larry Bird. Now you know he
played with Halcheck, Dave didn't play with Larry. But still
that's high praise for John Havelcheck, who was a guy
who never stopped. If you watched him play, he was
in constant motion. If you look at you know, the
(06:17):
way Reggie Miller played, it was constant motion. Habilcheck's the
first guy I remember who never stopped. And you know
that if you talk to somebody who plays defense, it's
the guy who never stops who's really hard to guard.
And he was a wonderful player, clutch player and probably
an eleven time, twelve time All Star. Yeah, PAULI, Yeah,
(06:39):
you're right.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
He stopped playing in seventy eight, thirteen straight All Star appearances,
first Team All NBA Defense seven straight years, and during
those years he's averaging like twenty seven, twenty four, twenty six. Yeah,
all purpose player. He's a great example of the TV
era missed him, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But he was involved in one one of the greatest games,
craziest games that was against the Phoenix Suns against the
Boston Celtics. When Boston thought they had won the game,
fans are storm in the court and there was like,
I don't know, a second left and that's when you
had gar Heard hitting the shot that sent it into overtime.
(07:21):
As one of my favorite series because I love the
Phoenix Suns, Alvin Adams and Ricky Sobers. They were a
fun team to watch, but the Boston Celtics a wild
finish at the Garden. Yeah, Havilchak sort.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of like in his movement, it made me think of
Steph Curry. He's sort of always just going. Is that
would that be similar? Or well he wasn't. He wasn't
the shooter.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He was a score yeah, but the movement of just yeah, yeah,
he never stops. Yes, constant, constant motion. And I just
used to be you know, guys would stand around in
the NBA back in the day. But Havelcheck. I remember
reading an article what makes John Havelcheck Run? That was
(08:08):
the title the article. Because he never stopped and he
probably could have been a great marathon runner, and he
was a great athlete. I think the Cleveland Browns drafted
him as maybe a tight end. Yeah, Pauly, he had.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Eight titles again in thirteen years. I think what happens
to guys like him? Remember that Steelers team that's seven
eight year run with the Steelers in the seventies and
early eighties. All their players end up in the Hall
of Fame, but they kind of get lumped together as
a group, And like Jack Lambert, if you said who's
the greatest middle linebacker of all time? Jack Lambert from
the Steelers, his name doesn't come up because he's almost
(08:42):
like part of a group. And Havelcheck is not a
standalone he's a Celtic great or a Steeler great. So
you're kind of it's a good thing because you go
to the Hall of Fame because of it, but it's
a negative for your personal career.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Sam Jones to me was an incredible player, but you
know there was k C. Jones on the same team,
but Sam Jones was a very underrated player. And you're
right because it was top heavy with Kuzi and Russell,
and you find this with certain teams where it's so
top heavy that the other players are kind of complimentary,
(09:15):
Like Habilchek was a complimentary player to Russell and Kuzi,
but he was not you know, even Tommy Heinzen was
a wonderful player. You do get lost in that winning.
I guess that's a good thing to get lost in
a winning tradition.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, Paul, like Klay Thompson, Clay Thompson's career is going
to be very memorable, and he's got titles like crazy.
He's got no records for scoring or team records, but
I think you'd prefer that then the average thirty for
five years with the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh, I'm winning titles. Like winning titles is getting him
into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
If Hablcheck played for the Atlanta Hawks, he'd have crazy
stats and we never talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He would probably not be a Hall of Famer. You
win titles. It's like they held it against the Vikings
when they lost four Super Bowls. They've held that against
the Buffalo Bills getting there. I mean, there has to
be it has to be rewarded, and we are a
bottom line, you know, sports society, Did you win?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I always the way we looked at teams who got
blown out in the super Bowl. It's like, oh, those
guys suck, those guys are terrible, Like they made it
to the super Bowl, but we would always look at
who won, never get like you know, lebron getting to
an NBA Finals and getting to the finals as many times,
even if he lost, it's a monumental achievement to get
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there as many times. Yes, Marvin, I.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Think that's why people look back at what John Elway
did in those early years when he got the Broncos
to the Super Bowl and he lost against some great,
great teams, and it's like, well, look who we bought
to the super Bowl, and you saw what happened When
he got a good running game in a good defense,
you could see him start winning super Bowls when he
got a complete team.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But if he doesn't win those Super Bowls, I don't
know if we look at him as a Hall of
Famer because he was being embarrassed or his teams were
being embarrassed in Super Bowls, not giving him the credit
he deserved to get his team to the super Bowl
because those offenses weren't good.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yes, and there's some baseball teams like that. The late
seventies Dodgers with Ron Say and Marshall and all Garvey.
You can't even get to all the names your team,
the Reds. I think that's the most talented baseball team
of my lifetime, the late mid to late seventies Reds.
You can't even keep track of all the Hall of
famers on that team. And Johnny Bench might be the
only one who gets the greatest of all time treatment.
(11:42):
You know, I don't think Dave concept Joan gets his due.
He's part of a group with the Reds.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and Pres is not considered one of the great
first basement of all time. Pete's one of the great
players of all time, Joe Morgan one of the great
second basemen of all time. And Johnny, you know, if
not the best catcher of all time, certainly on the
short list there.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yes, Marvin, Sorry, going back to something you said earlier,
you said John Away wouldn't be considered a Hall of
Famer or just maybe in the Marino conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It might be in the Marino, but Marino was putting
up better numbers than John Back then you weren't throwing
for thirty touchdowns. I don't think Montana or Elway. Maybe
one time they threw for thirty or thirty one touchdown passes.
It was just a different game. And that's why when
you say somebody to look at Bart's Starr or Bob
Greesi's stats and go why is he a Hall of Famer?
(12:34):
It was different back then. What you were asked to do.
You were a game manager. That's why whenever I talk
about a game manager, I mean it's based off what
I saw with some of the greatest quarterbacks of all
time who played in a different generation. And Johnny United
is Bart Starr, Bob Greasy like they managed the game.
(12:58):
You want me to throw twenty five times, you want
me to throw fifteen, okay, And I look at that
as high praise. I think Patrick Mahomes is more of
a game manager now, and it's not a negative, Like
he'll manage the game until he needs to go solo
and maybe you know, you get to the fourth quarter,
(13:19):
you know Tom Brady managed the game as well as
anybody who's ever played, and then you get to the
point where you go, Okay, now we need you to
go above and beyond. We need you to put on
a cape. Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There has to be different ways to use game manager,
because game manager before was it felt like more you
put this guy in and said just don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, and we'll try to win it. You're right and
I and that's not fair, you know to somebody like
Patrick Mahomes who's managing a game in a completely different way. Yeah,
I need to come up with a better term, a
complimentary term, because then all of a sudden somebody say, hey,
Patrick Mahomes, Dan Patrick, call you a game manager, although
he might go, yeah, I mean I have to manage
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the game. That's the position.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, game manager sounds like a guy who's middle
of the road, maybe still wears a name tag at work.
But if you said game ceo, that means that guy's
the boss. You know you can make the decisions. Yeah,
you're right, you're right, game ceo. Gotta come up with
a game ceo.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I don't catch on. That won't work shop then yes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Director captain, Like what the what word could fit there?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, captain, there's already captains on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
But like you're so used to the word manager, but
it does have that a negative connotation to it, and
it's gonna always have that unless they come up.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
With something else.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Haircut looks fresh? Thanks, yeah, get that.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Over the weekend I did my wife did a little
buzz cut. Went a little too short, but for the summer,
there's not much to work with anyway. She made some
kind of silver fox comments, tongue in cheek, whatever, a little.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Bit of hair, the green light like that, she waved
your home. Were you guys sitting in bathtubs?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
The walls just fell away and all of a sudden,
magical forest appeared, and you two walked hand in hands
toward two bethtubs.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Are you Are you driving a convertible, a Mustang convertible room?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Perhaps your hands touched slightly and the look, oh, I like.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Your versions of it as opposed to what actually happened
a lot more exciting the way you guys she said
it with an eye roll and like, you know, tongue
in cheek cut of thing, as opposed to like, hey,
you know, kids aren't here, and silver fox, you got
a nice haircut.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I just gave you let's ticket to take it upstairs.
It wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Sorry to hear that, buddy.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Damn, it's just a haircut.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Well, she's kind of a game manager though. Yeah he
really it was only kiss. Yeah, only a kiss.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I made a sandwich and she went to go watch
Real Fortune or something.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
That was really the end of that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Uh, Tim in Ohio? Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Ok?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
How's it going?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Good?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Good?
Speaker 10 (15:53):
Six feet.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Falling in?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Say about the lid? All So that's the weekend. That
RBC Canadian Open was awesome. That shot Ryan Fox hit
on eighteen said it was the best shot he ever
hid in his life.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
An incredible theater.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
But Joaquin Neeman winning the Live Tour was also awesome.
He's won five to he finished top ten in the
last couple of majors. You said that the US Open
was not exciting. It was exciting last year with Roy
McElroy and Bryson D Schambeau. Coming down to it, all, Right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
When did I say the US Open wasn't exciting?
Speaker 10 (16:33):
He said he wanted to be more exciting with it
coming down to here's players that are coming into eighteen
with a plot to win it or lose it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh, but I want more players to challenge Scottie Scheffler, Right,
But that.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
Weren't they challenging him the last year at the US Open.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I want more. I want more of it. I'm
looking at the odds here. Tim Scheffler is an overwhelming
favorite to win the US Open. I'm I'm hopeful that
it's a coming down eighteen and they're going toe to toe,
so I'm rooting for more of that. I brought up
examples where nobody really challenged Tiger, or if they did,
(17:11):
it was guys like rock O Mediate and you know,
Bob may So. That's the point. But thank you for
the phone call, and I congratulations to Joaque Neman. He's
a great player. I don't think anybody's denying that. But
when you went on the live tour, if a tree
falls in the forest, they were shorts, though, and they
(17:34):
play music, or maybe they don't do the music anymore,
they realize how stupid that is. Hey, look at us,
We're playing some music. Who's having fun? I mean, no, no,
we are. Who has more fun than us?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No money?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
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Speaker 1 (19:02):
Big doings with college athletics. NCAA settlement opens the door
for schools to pay athletes directly. Paul Finebam, hosts of
the Paul Fine Bomb Show, Voice of the SEC, joining
us on the program. All right, what does this mean
for the fan? Let me start out. Let's just say
college football fan, what is this going to mean now?
(19:24):
Five years down, ten years down the road?
Speaker 13 (19:27):
Dan, It means very little really because this is all complicated,
a lot of legal mumbo jumbo. What I think if
it will really mean though, if you're a fan of
a group of five school, if you're a fan of
a school somewhere in the middle, get ready for hard times.
This is only going to help the richere. You heard
that before the big leagues, the Big ten, the SEC
(19:51):
will more than likely profit because they have so much money.
Women's sports, in my opinion, will be hurt. Olympic sports
will be crushed. Football wins Basketball, Other than maybe the
Big East takes a slight back seat.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What happens to the NCUBA.
Speaker 13 (20:11):
The NCAA is essentially dead, and I know a lot
of people are celebrating, but the damage that has been
done by this organization is incalculable, and it's really about time.
What did we grow up thinking about when we thought
of the NCAA DAN the enforcement part of it, The
big bad NCUBA is coming to your town. They don't
(20:33):
even have any jurisdiction for that anymore, by the way,
not that they have in about the last five years.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
They've been completely ineffective.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
So if you're the NCAA president who happened to be
Charlie Baker, you get the fly around on a luxury plane,
you work in a taj mahal, you stay at five
star resorts, but essentially you have absolutely nothing to do
but try to look busy.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Is Division one too big?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yes? Right now?
Speaker 13 (21:02):
In college sports. Piggybacking off of what I said in
the preamble, it's really about the top it's pyramid, and
the idea that a college basketball tournament, which used to
be one of the greatest moments on the calendar, has
now been reduced to a battle of the elite is
really unfortunate. But there's no way if you're a small
(21:26):
college basketball program like a Butler ten years ago or
some of these other programs that have just been so exciting.
Davidson making a run with Steph Curry. You really don't
have a chance. And I know that sounds deflating, but
and even if you are good, if you have a
junior or a sophomore, he's going to one of the
(21:48):
top teams for his final year, he's not sticking around.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
A couple of things that came to mind is an il,
the transfer portal, signing contracts that might make it tougher
to transfer, Can schools buy out a player from his
and I I mean, I don't. It's the wild while West.
So these are all these questions that I had, So
(22:14):
pick one of those if you've got a juicy answer.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Yeah, I mean, right now, the biggest issue in college
athletics is the portal. That's what coaches scream about because
they're constantly on the go having to re recruit their roster.
So I think that's really where the action is. I'm
not sure this agreement is going to affect that, and
I don't mean to be one of those guys that
says it's actually going to get worse in some regard,
(22:39):
but there are going to be more lawsuits, and I
think you're going to see Title nine lawsuits about where
does I mean, right after we've had the greatest explosion
of women's sports, especially in basketball, women's softball.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Now it's going to be curtailed.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
What is really going on, and it's very much out
in the open, is the commissioners of college sports on
federal intervention. It's interesting Dan that yesterday up in New Jersey,
the athletic director and Notre Dame who used to be
in the PGA, so he knew the president very well
from his days there, and the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference,
Greg Zenki, played golf with Donald Trump with the idea
(23:17):
of trying to get him to do what Congress has
not done in four or five years. Despite a lot
of smoke. And I'm not a political analyst, this president
has quite a bully pulpit, and he does seem, at
least for the time being, to be very interested in
college athletics. And some of that is because he's a
sports fan. He's gone to a number of games, he
(23:39):
likes the arena, so he could help in the short term.
But from a legal standpoint, almost everything will be challenged
at some point. But the idea of Congress making, you know,
giving college athletics an anti trust exemption limiting college athletes.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
In terms of what they can make. I think it
was still remains fairly slim.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Paul Fine Baumb of The Mothership, The Paul Fine Baumb Show,
The Voice of the SEC. Also, schools are going to
get twenty and a half million dollars to play with.
And where does that money come from.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
It comes from the same place that it's always coming from,
donations boosters. I mean, that's all. I saw Kirby's mart
the other day. He was on his way to a fundraiser.
That's all they do. They recruit and fundraised. They don't
do a lot of coaching in the off season, and ultimately,
if you have fat cats.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And in some ways they.
Speaker 13 (24:37):
Believe that this new agreement is going to cut the
billionaire booster like the one in Miami a couple of
years ago, the one that Texas take out. I don't
think so, Dan, You're never going to cut those guys out.
And the idea that they hired an ex Major League
Baseball official who was a former US attorney. He's going
to be in charge of enforcements. Please, that's not going
(24:59):
to happen every school. We will challenge anything that comes
down the pipe like like we've seen in recent years,
and there will be no enforcement whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The transfer portal thing is I think what that's what
drives coaches crazy. And I mean you're poaching guys, you
know when they were playing in you know, the playoffs
college football playoffs. There were two players that I was
told they're negotiating to play someplace. Having that window we've
(25:34):
talked about, is there a way to make the transfer
portal the window smaller to be fair to those playing
in playoff games, to these coaches as well.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
Yes, I mean there's two transfer portals right now. The
second one is not particularly important, that's that one just
ended a couple of weeks ago. But the one right
after the season is. And the problem is that it
where do you put it right now? It lands right
after the championship games, but before the bowl in playoff games.
And the story is pretty famous about the backup quarterback
(26:09):
at Penn State last year just he decided to leave
and you know they didn't need him, but ultimately it
could have been a disaster. So I don't think there's
anywhere to put that, because nowadays you don't want to
wait to right now to get your your seniors on
your campus. You will all the great programs get the
(26:31):
best players in December before that's in December of their
senior year, Dan, not not afterwards, And so the portal
has to be there, and I don't think they can
do much about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It just feels like we're eventually going to get to
fifty schools, right, that's where we're headed, right.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
Right, And we're also going to get collective bargaining at
some point. I don't know why college administrators just don't
want to. It's that they're paying the players. But as
soon as I say this, and it's and we know
everything that has happened, you'll get You'll get an athletic
director on your show next week or a coach and
he'll use this phrase, Dan, you know the student athletes,
please don't face because that's the most laughable uh statement
(27:16):
and word, well, not the most laughable, but at least
in the college sports parlance right now. But they they're
stuck on it, and they just want to act like
this isn't really going on around them. It reminds me
of the piano player in the House of Bill reputed
as people are as businessmen are walking up and down
they're just playing the piano.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I think, like they're not seeing a thing.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I want to centralize college football office scheduling.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Good luck, can we? I mean, I like what you're going,
where you're going.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
The problem is that you have these four power four
commissioners and they are essentially like the bosses of the
of the of the New York families back in the day.
The Brooklyn's not giving into Staten Island and Manhattan's not
giving into Queens. They meet twice a year at the
best Italian restaurant in Little Italy, and that you hope
(28:07):
nobody gets killed.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But it's all about money, Paul, and there's more money
to be made. They love making their money. So at
some point in my lifetime, I think, we get to
fifty colleges and you are playing, and then there's everybody else.
I just think, and there's gonna be some schools that
might go, you know what, We're gonna drop football. It's
(28:32):
we don't want to spend money or you know, these
these these are strange, so maybe you do, you know,
drop divisions.
Speaker 13 (28:40):
But the one thing I'll say, and I'm not a Pollyanna,
but you know, come September on a Saturday night when
we're watching Ohio State and Texas and arch Manning has
the ball on fourth and one with the goal on,
we won't care about any of these things. The games
are fantastic, just like everything that you're watching in hockey
and basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But the offseason is just brutal.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But when it's November eighth and it's Georgia versus Mercer,
then I have a problem with that, Paul.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I agree.
Speaker 13 (29:11):
But nowadays, because the playoff remains as convoluted as ever,
we're going to get at least three of the two.
Every every program at least and is going to is
going to have at least two.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of those games. I mean, look at some of the schedules.
Speaker 13 (29:26):
Penn State has an embarrassing non conference schedule this year,
and they're one of the favorites to win the national championship.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Good to talk to you, Paul, as always, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
That's Paul Finbaum, The Mothership, The Paul Feinbaum Show, Voice
of the SEC. He's right, I mean, that's what I
want to know for us the college fan. What's it mean?
Does it mean anything?
Speaker 6 (29:50):
All? Right?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Maybe less transfer portal? I think that would be fair
to the game coaches. You know you're team as opposed
to the team you're joining. I'm all for the athletes
making money whatever you want to make great, but please,
you know we frame this as student athletes that came
(30:13):
up back in the seventies by Wald Buyers who ran
the nc DOUBLEA. It was brilliant. The student athlete, Oh,
the student athlete. It's the athletics student. Let's be honest here,
the athletics student. Okay, take a break, last call for
phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? Right
after this, be sure to catch the live edition of
(30:35):
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
One of the great shooters of all time, Ray Allen,
will join us on the program tomorrow, sneaking a couple
more phone calls this day in sports history. Also, I
do hear this a lot with the NCUBA, where all
(30:56):
of a sudden they're going to limit scholarships, and hey,
some of these programs are going to go away, the
swimming team, or the volleyball team, or women's softball, whatever
it might be. If a school would really want to
keep those programs, they can't. How much money would it
cost to keep the women's volleyball team, How much would
(31:16):
it cost to add money to the women's basketball program?
How much? But we always use that as well, Hey,
you're going to have this, and that means these programs
go away. You're gonna have to do away with all
that if you really like, what do you do with
your endowment? Feels like you just you know, you're reinvesting,
(31:40):
or you're putting it into stocks, or you're building buildings
or you know, do you want your volleyball team or
women's softball team, your football team. Do you still want
it to be recognized? You can do it. The question
is do you want to spend that money because it
feels like all of these schools have an endowment that
(32:02):
if you wanted to do this, you could. I don't
want them, these schools.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
To go out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
We're gonna have to get rid of these programs. Don't
use that as an excuse. Yes, yeah, I mean I
get the purpose of an endowment. And you're sort of
ensuring the long term viability of the school right that
it's going to stay open and keep operating. In your
many many years in advance. But those are a lot
of times those are It's the endowment is really an investment.
(32:29):
It's in stocks and bonds and real estate and you know,
I don't know, venture capital or private equity, all of
those things. It feels like you could peel a little
bit of money away from that and set up some
type of fund within the endowment to ensure that those
other Olympic sports stay active. Yeah, I would guess. Yeah,
I'm hoping Stanford doesn't have I mean, I'd invest in that.
(32:52):
My Olympic sports there, track, team, swimming, whatever it might
be with Stanford. I mean that people, it's not your
football program, although Andrew Luck is there now, and maybe
they're going to reinvest in.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Ah, reinvest to devidends dedends.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, we're gonna have to get with get rid of swimming.
And I mean, how much money does it cost to
run a swimming program or lacrosse or whatever. Oh, I'm
get off my lawn mood today, This day in sports history,
Paul I.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Got a bunch for you, Dan, old school ones which
would be redundant because it's sports history. Nineteen fourteen, Honus
Wagner second player in MLB history to get three thousand hits.
Nineteen seventy three, Secretariat won the Belmont by thirty one
leans hikes. Those other short horses should be embarrassed to
show their faces. Nineteen eighty four, the Pittsburgh Penguins use
the first pick of the draft to select Mary Leo
(33:53):
Gott to call that when it worked out a little bit.
Eighty five, the Lakers won the NBA title, beating the Celtics.
Kareem had twenty nine in the final game. Monica sellis
second youngest youngest winner in French OPN history, beating stephie
Graff in nineteen ninety. Patrick wah two thousand and one,
three straight con Smyth trophies.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Patrick, I used to host this show, the NBA on ESPN,
and I bring this up because I watched the show
last night at halftime with the mother Ship. Three guys
talking at once is not good TV. Listen to your host,
(34:34):
let your host direct. But it's not good TV. It's
just not and it can be. But we have this
philosophy now of louder is better. I'm just gonna keep
yelling louder and then maybe you'll trail off and then
(34:54):
I'll take over you don't have that much time at
halftime because there's always a promo and commercial, so then
you get sixty seconds. Be strategic. Not everybody has to talk,
Not everybody has to have a hot take. How about
you just have something where you go, you got fifteen seconds,
you got fifteen, you got fifteen, make the best of it.
(35:16):
And this is any show that I've ever been on
as a host. My job was always to be John Stockton.
I wanted you to look good, sound good, but you
got to listen to me, and I think making sure
you have direction. But at one point you have three
people talking. It's just not good.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Not good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
See, I've noticed a similar thing happened too with like
morning radio, and it drives me crazy because there are
sometimes that, like say a debate format works or like
high ended, like all of those things work, and then
there's other times a day that it really doesn't work
at all. And there are times that like I'll be
driving into work and I could just hear people already
like arguing with each other, and it's like, you know,
(36:01):
do you know how many people are going into work
that day, probably to a job that they don't like,
with coworkers that they don't really like and all they
want to do is just get through their commute without
having to listen to people argue.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And already it's bus is not a good sports town
or you kidding, But now you've really got me going.
Now you've really take me off. Bus is not a
good sports down really, and go dude, it's six forty
five in the morning. I haven't even had a cup
of coffee yet. Chill out, dude. Why are we yelling
at each other. Nobody wants to hear you. I mean,
you're telling me Phildelphia it's a better sports down than
Oh my god, dude, just stop, bro. And I think
(36:37):
that we've got into this culture now where we have
to disagree, and you know, having been on the inside
at the Mothership, there would be times when I would
do Sports Center and you go, all right, who's going
to take that side? And then who's going to take
that side? And then you'd have somebody say, well, I
agree with that side, but I'll take the other side.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Just to argue.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'll go okay, And we feel like that's you know,
Michael and Tony on part of the Interruption. They did it.
They created, you know, an art form to that. Now
they do argue sometimes, but you know, sometimes you can
create a blueprint. Oberman and myself created a blueprint for
(37:18):
sports Center. Okay, it was unique, unique to the time,
but that doesn't mean everybody should try to emulate that
part of the interruption. Not everybody should try to emulate that,
Or if you want to try to emulate it, then
try to do it the way they are instead of
yelling back and forth and scream because it just your
point never gets across the way you wanted to. You're
(37:41):
just trying to win by wearing somebody down. And I
know we're supposed to embrace debate, never did and I
never will, not in this form. And if that's debate.
Last night, at halftime of the NBA Finals, get a beer,
(38:01):
uh Nick and Irvine? Hey Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Hey Dan? I got the best and the worst and
then one other thing.
Speaker 15 (38:11):
So worst of the weekend definitely Dodgers run support.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Why do they have show? Hey leading off?
Speaker 15 (38:16):
He's gonna have more home runs than the RBIs if
they don't.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Put him in a third or second. Best was the
Nation League Final yesterday.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
That was a heck of a game from the very
beginning very entertaining, and I think it's a kind of
an aberration.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
But I think both of those teams are so.
Speaker 15 (38:33):
Good they would have beaten the champion League PSG the
champion league team.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Usually it's the other way.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
Around, and you were talking about what's better watching the
game or app chopping it up afterwards watching the game,
especially like let's say Dodgers Yankees in the World Series
last year. If you're a Dodger fan or Yankee fan,
you're so invested it's painful. It's it's hard to enjoy
it in the moment. But you know when I see
a guy wearing a Yankee hat walking around like that,
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walking around town, and I say, hey, how about them
Dodgers or Celtics fan, And I'm like, no childer today,
And you know, how about them Lakers?
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Game seven?
Speaker 14 (39:11):
That's so much better, so satisfying, well, only after you've won,
because when they win and then they say something to you,
then it's not as satisfying.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Jim in Michigan, Hi, Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (39:26):
I made parallel of a comment you made earlier. This
is about Scotti Scheffler. I've kind of backed away for
golf but I would in years gone by, I would
devote a lot of time to watch TV, watch any
tournament on TV. But it's gotten to the point. I
was watching the memorial and if Scotty's up by three
or more, it's almost a yawn. I respect him as
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a player, and it's family and all that, but it's
it's not that exciting, and it's frustrating when I could
just see they turn it off and go out and
cut the grass, versus watching watch him hold on to
a lead.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
That's my comment.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
No, I get it, I get it. There's no wow
factor there. Tiger had wow factor, Jack Nicholas had wow factor,
you know, but there's very few that moved the needle,
you know. Rory's got wow factor, Deshambo's got wow factor,
Michelson had it because you're never quite sure what you
were going to see. I like Brooks Koepka. I mean,
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he's not a dynamic personality and I don't know if
he'll win again, but you don't know once he got
five majors. Yeah, I mean, it's it's tough to have
that tune in factor because you're following that the guy
who gave us tune in factor on a golf course
(40:47):
in Tiger because you didn't want to miss it, because
you knew there was something. You know, A six iron
out of the bunker over the water at the RBC
many many, many many years ago. Yes, Mark the Scotty's
a great player, but not a star. He's like Sga.
He just damn he gets it done. He's efficient. What'd
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you learn today, Todd?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
It doesn't make sense for the Knicks to hire Jason
Kidd unless they can reunite him with Giannis and not
give up too much in return.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
See no O'Connor. The NCAAA is essentially dead. Marvin Sga
and Lou Dort roommates Paul.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
A lot of Jerry Curl talk.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
What did I learn?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Tom The Rams paid their backup qub more last season
than the Raiders paid all their quarterbacks combined.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
What We'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.
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