April 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes consider which player is currently the most dominant in their particular sport. And NFL insider Mike Florio explains why the NFL owners decided to table a vote on the "tush push."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio already the final hour on this Wednesday, Dan
and the Danis dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Time flies when you're having fun.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
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but just a subtle friendly reminder. We're going to be
at Lambeau and the Shadows of Lambeau at the bar.
It's on home Grown Way, about three blocks from Lambeau,
famous for their wings the flats as they like to say.
(00:34):
So we'll be there and it'll be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
of Draft week and you can join us. First come,
first serve when it comes to being in the studio audience.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes, Tom first show exactly three weeks from today.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Okay, three weeks from today, will be in the final
hour of the show. It'll be raucus, great people there,
great atmosphere. There will be a fun show. I think
Frank Caliendo is going to stop by. Maybe Doug Gottlieb,
the Wisconsin Green Bay head coach would stop by as well.
We'll get you ready for the NFL Draft drafts. At
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
How many streets in the town or city of Green
Bay do you think are named after packer legends? H
I know there's a farm way. It's right by the stadium.
I've got a I've got Donald Driver Way. I'm looking
at a list right now. I hope this is real.
Mike McCarthy way, Oh, okay, Reggie White Way.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Is there a Phil Benkston Way? Is there a Dan
Devine Way? How about Don mccowski?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I got bart Star Drive, of course, yes, Lombardy av
Sterling Sharp.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't see that is Farbes Steakhount still there?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Checking?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, it probably is Taylor Street, Oh, Jim Taylor, Taylor
pull back. Yeah, whole horning.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
I don't know who their safety was Ridge, but there's
an s Ridge Road that's obviously.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Thanks you seeing Ted main Street. One of their great linebackers.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Lombardy.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Obviously Lombardy's got a couple.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I think.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Yeah, there at Chimura Junction or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Culed a Zach, there's Don Hudson Road.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, we're looking for more.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, Willie Davis maybe, oh, ray come on, rayn has
to be a dead end because when you ran into
ray Nik It was a dead end.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Is there like a couldest sack named after John Kuhn?
Checking the like an edge rusher because the sacks?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Would you rather have a street named after you or
have a statue?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
A statue?
Speaker 8 (02:54):
Really?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You know what the local newscasts are going as a
lock up on Reggie White Way.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
No, No, I just want people, strangers, perfect strangers putting
their hands all over my body.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's so smooth. I don't need a statue for that.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yes, Tom, but no one can say that's an ugly
street sign that looks nothing like you.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, they made Ronaldo look ugly, which is impossible, but
they did it when they did his statue, and Dwayne
Wade was h h. It's like when Bobbleheads first came out.
It felt like every bobblehead looked like the same bibblehead.
But they'd be like, oh, yeah, who's that? Oh that's
(03:37):
I remember. I got mine and it didn't look like
me the first one I got when I was at
the Mothership there. All right, we got sidetracked, but then
we're famous for getting sidetracked. Good morning, if you're watching
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question for the final hour of the program, Mike Florio
(03:59):
from Pro Football Talk will try to sort out what
happened the last two days at the NFL owners meeting
and why they tabled the tush push other than we
got to do a little more homework and convince more
people to vote to get rid of it. All right,
what do you have seton?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
This is one of the craziest poll questions we've ever had.
Uh and actually Russ Tucker approves. Oh, not the one
maybe you're thinking of. Do you prefer flats or drums? Okay,
right now it is fifty point three to forty nine
point si thousands of votes, thousands of votes.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, everybody has an opinion. I want to throw in
blue cheese or ranch. I don't want to do that
to the show today. It's criminal to have ranch with
wings right now? Should they should come in and arrest people?
Is that blue cheese?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, it's ranch. Come with me, it's registration.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Wipe your fingers, yes, put them in Like the US,
there used to be like a smoke section like when
you went to Ponderosa or something and like, oh, look
at this little plastic wall like Todd and I have.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can smoke over on that side because it smoked them.
That's where the Ranch people go.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, wow, that's where I would be.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No offense, Marvin, you got a thought on this? Oh
I hate blue cheese.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, but do you like?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, you love Ranch.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It would always be on the wings.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Never blue cheese ranches.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I hate blue cheese. What what time? No, I'm on
Marvin's team with that. Definitely Ranch, not a blue cheese guy.
And I like drums.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
I can be convinced otherwise when we get to Green Bay.
But I always wandered drums only for a dollar morel
It's true local pizza plants.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Drums only preent dollar extra. Okay, well drums, let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're a big spender.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
They haven't been a dollar fifty extra. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I got to check my ten Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Are we just going to stay with that pole question?
Might as well? Well, we got some other ones too
that I'll run down for you. But do you prefer
flats or drums?
Speaker 9 (05:57):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Zero point three percent of the audience slightly prefer flats
over drums, that's all it is. Yeah, I'm a drummer boy,
nuts though, absolutely well. Do you have who is currently
the most best in their sport?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Otani Jokic, McDavid Mahomes, Okay, right now, shohe Otani has
about fifty four percent of that vote, followed by Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Patrick Mahomes has six point nine percent of that vote.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know if he's considered the best player in
his sport, but he's the guy that I want with
the ball, with the game on the with the biggest
game on the line. Does that make you the best
player in your sport? I don't know, yes, Todd, I don't.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Think the most clutch player equals the best player in
a sport.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But what is what is sport about? It's about winning, correct? Yes,
winning championships? Correct yes, But if that guy gives you
the best chance to win a championship where he offers
something that is better, more complete, different than any other quarterback,
does that make him the best player in his sport.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
There are people that have been known to come through
in like, you know, big moments that aren't necessarily on
the very top of the list of everyone that's ever
played that sport. Uh Like Robert ORRII is not anywhere
near the best player ever, but you know, he's someone
that had some big shot Bob moments.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But if I said, you could have Robert Orri game
on the line, or you could have Kobe game on
the line, or Michael Jordan or Larry Bird or Reggie Miller.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
That's a tough one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But Robert or I'm guessing most of those big shots
that he hit he was open. He didn't go for
a triple double, he didn't get you thirty, but he
did hit the big shot. There's a difference in everybody
knows you're going to take it to that guy's open,
he's going to be able to take that shot. Now,
(07:57):
he did hit those, he did win those champsapionships, but
he wasn't the guy that they went out and go, hey,
we got to stop Robert Orry. They had to stop
other people. Robert or stepped up, which is what you
want with your role players. All right, A couple of
phone calls. By the way, Jokich went for sixty one,
ten and ten, and god do I hate the triple double?
(08:21):
I do because you know what, when Oscar did it
back in what nineteen sixty two, sixty three. We didn't
call it a triple double. Just he averaged this and
averaged that, and he averaged that, and then Russell Westbrook
Junior the third one an MVP because he had he
averaged a triple double.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I truly think if he averaged like.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Thirty nine and eight, he wouldn't have been the MVP
because they would have been like, well, I don't know, hey,
he averaged a triple double. You know, the last person
to do that, the big o'. If you said to
Larry Bird or Magic Johnson, hey, once you go average
a triple double, they would have done that. Yes, Marvin, Oh,
(09:08):
there's no argument. It's a fact. That's why he won
the MVP. He won the MVP. They were a six
cy DP. It was last time a sixty won MVP
in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's not gonna happen again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
No, absolutely not, no, no, well man, that was Burton.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But if you said, I don't know if it was
Willie Mays or Mickey manno, that said you know about
going thirty thirty thirty homers, thirty stolen bases. If I
would have known that it was going to be a
big deal. I would have done it a few times.
You know, we're so stat heavy, stat driven. That's how
you know all of these athletes make their money because
(09:43):
their stats are compared to a previous generation baseball players.
Oh my god, my third baseman hit thirty eight home runs.
You know, no other third baseman's hit that many home runs. Oh,
he's worth this amount of money. We are so cognizant
of stats. Like, if Babe Ruth was cognizant of stats,
what do you have continued to pick? If he would
have known about Otani, what do you have continued to pitch? Right,
(10:07):
he'd be like, I'm going to choose not to pitch.
I figure I can have more fun by just hitting.
I don't have to pitch. I can just hit, and
I can be maybe the greatest hitter of all time.
But yeah, we get caught up in the numbers and
the triple double. If Joker goes sixty one to nine
(10:31):
and eight, is it less of a game? And the
answer is no, But this is really easy. He had
a triple double. I think this is the most points
for somebody who had a triple double in history, sixty
one points. Steph was spectacular though, fifty two on the Grizzlies. God,
(10:55):
I never ever ever get tired of watching him play.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Never.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And you know, there's a couple of guys, and I
love ant man. Anthony Edwards is just he's just a
dynamo man and he's fun to watch. But there are
certain players where I just I would watch Steph Curry
in practice, I would, I would watch him in warmups
(11:21):
must see TV. And I love Joker because he just
understands the game that very very few understand that way.
You know, Magic understood that. You know a lot of
the greats understand it. But Joker's doing it. He's just
doing it more deliberate, slower. You kind of know what
(11:45):
he's doing. In Minnesota, last I looked had the stifle
tower Rudy in the go bets and he put up
sixty one. Now, granted Rudy wasn't on him the whole time,
he might have had seventy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow, that's not nice.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't know why on what your deal today? No,
I'm kind of mean today.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You're not wrong about Beard, but still I.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Roughed up Fritzy, I roughed up Mark Sanchez. Be nice
to Mike Florio still try. Yes, Marvin Man, you questioned
that man's paternity.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's just a joke.
Speaker 11 (12:20):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was a you know, who's the never mind.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
With a fellow US quarterback and a Fox.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I know, but I thought that that might be funny
that I bring up Matt Lioner, maybe the father of
one of your children.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He's a good sport.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
He is hasn't returned any of my text when I
set out everything's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't know what's.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gonna I know, I said to Todd, check if Sanchez
is okay with that comment. He goes, I think he is.
I think he is. Yeah, Paulie, I.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Did have a quick update from Packers fans. There's a
Raynichkey Memorial Bridge. You got a whole bridge that's awesome.
Like to go up you can't pass. I see that.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know, maybe we do a story on all the
landmarks there go on. Maybe we send Dylan out and
he does something on all the landmarks there on Green Bay.
Troy in Carson City, Hi Troy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (13:19):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Thanks so much, long time, first time since two thousand
and eight, five nine and a super Soft two sixty soft. Yeah,
so was going to talk about Purdy, but you brought
up Curry and my son and I just went to
the Warriors game a couple months ago just to see
the warm ups and it was better than the game
(13:40):
and they won. That was Butler's first home game with
Biggy's retirement. He's just phenomenal. But with Purty, Paulie was
saying that, you know he doesn't do anything elite. Well, Paulie,
just like you have an elite foliage and plaid game,
Purdy is an elite processor of information. I would say
(14:01):
top three easily. And you can have all the arm
telling in the world, Dan, but if you can't process
and throw it to the right person, you're not gonna
get it. I don't think he's worth fifty five I'd
love to sign him for forty nine max. Maybe forty
five million. But that's my take.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
All right, Well, thank you, Troy. I'm sure the Niners
would love to sign him for that as well. You
can process. I can process a basketball for right now.
That doesn't mean I can do everything. I can do
very little. Brock can process the game. You still have
to make the plays. Like Peyton Manning could still process
the game when he was in Denver. He just couldn't perform.
(14:41):
That's the difference Rock Party. Can he throw to the numbers.
I'm only going by what a scout to him. That's
all a scout who did scout him at Iowa? Stay yes,
by hey.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Kids, I got tickets to watch Rock Party process this weekend.
Jump in the car man he process.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Now on sale, Brock pretty processor? Is that a computer?
A processor that it used to be a computer?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
A computer processor? Or word process?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Okay, nearly down is like a fancier typewriter?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
How about we take a break here and we'll make
way for Mike Florio. He's going to tell you everything
that happened, why the tush push was tabled to may
the overtime rule. Because I'm still not sure is the
regular season the same as the postseason? And I think
I have an idea of the kickoffs. I'm not sure
about the on side kick. So I got questions that
(15:39):
Florio needs to answer. Maybe this segment is just for
me to enrich me, to make me smarter when I
go to those holiday parties.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
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Speaker 3 (16:58):
I go to Mike Florio in a time of need.
There are times when we have a question Toddle send
it to Mike Florio. He usually responds something that could
be of a legal issue, Mike being a lawyer, and
now I come to Mike Florio in a time of need.
I don't know exactly what happened at the owner's meetings.
I'm still trying to understand over time. I'm trying to
(17:21):
understand the onside kick why the tush push was tabled. So, Mike,
where do you want to start to enlighten me and
hopefully our audience when you come to me in a
time of.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Need, Dan, is there any type of a bat signal
involved that I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Not aware of?
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Or is it just Fritzy? Is it texting me? That's
the bats signal? It's the Fritz signal?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, Now, could the Eagles have demanded a vote yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
With the tush push?
Speaker 11 (17:50):
Well, no, that's not how it works. When the wind
is blowing against a proposal passing, it tends to get
tabled because if you put it up for a vote,
you're going to get numbers that fall short of the
requisite twenty four to change the rules. And ESPN dot
COM's Cayl and Kaylor reported that sixteen teams were in
(18:11):
favor of the Packers proposal, which means sixteen aren't. But
the proposal itself from the Packers was very flawed, and
I don't know whether they introduced a bad proposal just
to get the conversation started. But the idea of banning
the immediate pushing of the quarterback after it gets the
snap that opens a can of worms for officiating and
(18:32):
consistency and replay review, and Tinfoil had conspiracies. They threw
the flag on that one when it wasn't really immediate
and the fixes in so I'm glad they're stepping back
from that and they're really getting to the heart of this.
The heart of this is do we want to get
rid of the maneuver altogether of a player who has
the ball being pushed from behind. The rule used to
(18:52):
be you couldn't do it. They changed the rule because
they were never enforcing it, and that was more down
the field, guys running for the first down, Here come
Jimbo Cervert chugging along and shoving him for the first down.
It was never incorporated into the actual play. The Eagles
realized sixteen years after they allowed this, the Eagles realized,
(19:13):
we can weaponize this. That's the issue. Are we going
to reset the clock to when you couldn't pull or
push the player with the ball? And if they want
to get rid of this, Dan, that's the easiest and
best way to do it. Reset the clock to two
thousand and four and say no more pushing, and then
Eagles will just run a quarterbacks and you can They'll
still kick everybody's ass and they'll have to come up
(19:33):
with some other way to explain why the Eagles are
superior to everyone when it comes to these short yardage plays.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's why I said you can get rid of the
tush push. The Eagles are still going to be dominating
with that offensive line and with that quarterback in this position.
But it feels like they table this because the NFL
is not getting the results they want, which isn't fair
to the Eagles. If you said, let's vote right now,
why can't they add for a vote right now?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So what if it doesn't pass? That's what that's the
opinion right now.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
It's a great point, and let's play it out. If
the Eagles had said, we demand a vote today on
the Packers' proposal, Okay, it goes down sixteen sixteen, not
enough to pass, they could still reformulate a new proposal
for May, which is what they're doing. I think a
lot of this is just pr.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Based and they're gonna get rid of this, aren't they.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Well, this is what bothers me. I feel like, and
it reminds me a lot of what happened when the
Patriots were successful. The Patriots always cheat. That's what all
the other teams would say, because when the owners are
asking the coaches and gms that they've hired and paid
a lot of money to, why can't you beat the Patriots,
the easy thing to say is they cheat. So now
(20:52):
we've found something the Eagles do that helps explain their dominance,
and we're saying it's not football, it doesn't look like football,
it's not safe. Well, where's the injury data? We don't
have any, but we might have some at some point.
So let's get rid of it now because it might
not be safe at some point in the future. And
what I don't like about it is I feel like
(21:14):
there's a lot of moving of the goalposts, and I
almost feel like our political discourse has crept into football,
where you have people making these transparently obvious, self interested
arguments that are bull crap. I almost said the other word,
and I remembered your FCC regulated, so I corrected myself.
But they're making these arguments all because the egos have
(21:39):
cracked the code, and everybody else is standing there looking
at the safe and they don't even know how to
begin to spin the dial. And that's it feels like
to me, that's what's going on here. Let's just call
it what it is. The Eagles are kicking everybody's butt,
and so let's just take away the best club that
they have in the bag.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host with Chris
is the show that precedes hours on Peacock. All right,
let's recap replay on sidekick, any other rule changes. I'll
let you start with whatever's top on your list.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
Well, the on side kick continues to be a dead play,
and they've tabled until May the question of whether they'll
allow the team that's trailing to try an on sidekick
at any point before the fourth quarter. And it was
relevant in the Super Bowl because as the Chiefs were
driving down thirty four to nothing, I said to Michael
David Smith and Sharen Williams in the press box the Superdome, Hey,
(22:33):
they might want to wait until the fourth quarter to score,
because if they score in the third quarter, they can't
do an on side kick, and it's kind of a dumb,
arbitrary limitation on the opportunity to retain possession. All that said,
the on side kick currently is worthless. It's meaningless. I
like the idea of a fourth and long play as
a way to give the team that's trailing the opportunity
to keep possession, but for now they've done nothing with it.
(22:56):
All they've done is they've changed the touchback point from
the thirty to the thirty five, which will spark more returns.
And it's funny, Dan, I've had people point out to me,
we're so concerned about the safety of the tush push,
which has been around for three years, and there's no
evidence it's not safe. Meanwhile, we're gonna have a dramatic
increase in these kickoff returns with this new formation, where
(23:18):
even though you don't have the catastrophic injury potential with
two guys going full speed coming at each other thirty
yards apart, you still get guys ear hold in short
yardage and kickers blown up. And that's not even a conversation.
It's just a weird dichotomy right now.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, and then they're gonna be pushing for an eighteen
game season, so you can't sit here. And it's about
players pushing Dan.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
It's just a matter of when it's happening. It's just
a matter of when.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Okay, But this is the last real chip for the
Players Association when you think about what can we get now?
Can we ask for three more roster spots, Could we
get an offensive Can we get a third string quarterback?
Can we get somebody on off, somebody on defense, or
whatever you know you're going to ask for. But this
feels like last call for the Players Association to be
(24:06):
able to go. We'll give you that eighteenth game. What
do you think the players are going to win in return?
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Well, and here's what it ultimately boils down to. Will
the NFL wait until the current CBA expires in March
of twenty thirty one. Lock the players out until they
cry uncle on an eighteenth game, and then get whatever
deal the NFL has put on the table, because we
know what will happen. The players are never going to
take the nuclear option. The owners will so to get
(24:33):
to eighteen before twenty thirty one. What will the union
want and what can the union get? And a year ago,
Lloyd Howe, the fairly new NFLPA executive director, was interviewed
by I believe the Washington Post, possibly The Athletic and
when he was asked about eighteen games, he said, who
doesn't want more football? And it was a horrible negotiating posture.
(24:56):
He has since backtracked. I don't know if you could
put that to paste back in the two, But in
February Dan he adopted a more no way in hell posture,
which is what you need to start from in order
to get the best possible deal for the players if
it's gonna happen. And I think the year to watch
is twenty twenty nine. That's when, and really it's after
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twenty nine when the CBA, not the CBA expires, but
the TV deals are up for grabs. But you know
they could do it. They could do it whenever they want.
The union in the league could come through an agreement
on eighteen games today if they wanted to. The question
is what can the players get? And you're right, more
roster spots, maybe a little larger piece of the pie,
just basically anything else you want. If the league wants
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to get to eighteen, now, ask for everything. Hell, I've
even suggested in the past, somewhat jokingly, go ahead and
offer twenty games, because we know we're gonna get to
twenty games one of these days. Twenty games and no
preseason games, and ask for everything. Now, let's go ahead.
You want to get nuts, let's get nuts. Let's do twenty.
And here's the list of everything.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We'd want to go to twenty overtime regular season, overtime postseason.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are they aligned?
Speaker 9 (26:06):
Not?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Now?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 11 (26:08):
No, not the way that I think it could have been. Look,
I don't like the idea of a fifteen minute overtime
in the regular season because what if you're playing a
Thursday after you play a Sunday, and you go fifteen
minutes of overtime on Sunday and then you got to
turn around on Thursday and potentially go fifteen minutes of
overtime then too. But by doing only ten minutes and
guaranteeing a possession for each team, we're gonna get into
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a situation where the team that receives the kick potentially
is going to chew up what, yeah, nine minutes on
a touchdown drive. And Chris Simms made a great point today.
You get around the thirty five of the other team,
and that defense might say, well, maybe we're gonna let
them score a touchdown here because we want to have
a fair crack to answer the touchdown instead of having
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them take the rest of the time off the clock
and we're in a two minute offense to try to
match this touchdown. I think that they made mistake by
not going back to fifteen minutes, because you want to
have both teams to have a fair shot at a
possession in that overtime period. And I think if that's
the case, you'll see most teams, if they win the toss,
choose to kick, and then if the team that receives
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gets a touchdown, you'll see an opportunity to try to
score and go for two and end it there with
ten minutes. I don't think it's as obvious that the
right choice is to kick if you win the toss.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
More reviewable plays with replay.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
I like it, but I don't like what they've done.
I don't like this discrepancy between will use replay assist
to determine whether or not to pick up a flag
that was thrown that shouldn't have been flown, for example,
horse collar tackle. They throw the flag, they look at it,
clear and obvious evidence there was no horse collar tackle.
You pick up the flag, but face mask Sam Darnold
(27:53):
getting the Linda Blair treatment from the Exorcist on that
Thursday night against the Rams. The referee didn't see it,
the umpire didn't see it, and we got the explanation, well,
you know they're down there, they can't see everything. Okay, fine,
the replay sees it. We all see it all, but
we're not going to put a flag on the field
that that to me, doesn't solve the problem. There's still
(28:13):
this donut hole in the gap between what the official
see on the field and what we see at home,
and the excuse like we don't want to officiate the
game from the booth. They're already doing that. We don't
want to put where it's a non starter to put
a flag down. You've had for years the ability to
use replay to put a flag down for twelve men
on the field, So I don't like it. I think
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it's a half measure. I think it's going to cause
more problems, and hopefully next year they'll realize we need
to go ahead and use it for you know, if
there is or isn't or was or wasn't for just
a narrow handful of plays where we can all see
that the foul did or didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think one of the more exciting plays, even though
it's not a play, but it's a moment are we
gonna lose? Is the chain gang coming out to measure
for a first down? I love that, But is modern
technology going to keep those guys on the sidelines?
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Well, you know, Dan, that's the reason why they kept
doing it for over one hundred years. Think back to
when football was first invented. How do we determine whether
or not the team with the ball got ten yards?
I know, let's get two sticks and ten yards of
chain link and we'll use that to determine it. And
it does create a moment of drama when the big
(29:32):
orange stick gets pulled and maybe Gene's terotor has to
pull a card out of his pocket and bend over
and didn't really get there. And sometimes you'll see and
you see a lot of high school games where that
word stick, you know which way the wind is blowing
a little bit here, and it's a first down. But
this is where the stakes of the game nowadays, especially
(29:54):
with legalized gambling, if they cry out for a full
embrace of technology. Let's get everything that we can get right,
and let's let's set aside the things that have been
in place for a hundred years. There are better ways
to do it. And you're right, that moment is going
to be gone now, except when the Hawkeye system ends
(30:14):
up being down and they have to use the chains.
But I think there's such an imperative now for the
league to try to get everything right. With so much
money bet legally on our phones coast to coast on
the outcomes of these games, they have to get these
calls right.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't spend a lot of time on the Cowboys,
but when I do, it's usually about Jerry Jones and
trying to understand a man who took a one hundred
and fifty million dollar investment and made it worth ten
billion dollars. But trying to understand how he negotiates that
he likes to see a little bit more. Well, every
(30:53):
time he's wanted to see a little bit more, he
spends a whole lot more. He did it with dak
Ceede Lamb, and now he's saying, apparently he's got to
see a little bit more with Micah Parsons before he
ponies up the biggest contract to anybody other than quarterbacks.
So is there a method to the madness here that
Jerry Jones is doing something that we're not seeing the
(31:14):
genius behind it.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I think Jerry Jones is the prime example of how
certain skills that allowed you to make the money that
enabled you to purchase an NFL team are not transferable
to how to be as successful as you can be
when you own the NFL team. This is a guy
who has done great business deals, and he has capitalized
(31:36):
on his leverage, and he knows how to twist arms
the right way and schmooth someone at the right moment
to get them to agree to a deal that maybe
isn't in their best interest, but it's definitely in his
best interest in his oil leases and all of his
other billions that have come from that world. Doesn't work here.
They drag their feet with all of these key players.
(31:59):
They have paid paid the wrong guys at times, they
have failed to pay the right guys. They wait too long.
They have gotten themselves painted into a corner with Dak
Prescott twice, the Michael Parsons contract. If you really want
to do it, you could do it in an hour.
Max Crosby and the Raiders did a new deal literally
in two or three hours. And you don't need to
(32:20):
have a ticking clock like Jerry wants to wait for
a clock that is ticking toward midnight to do his deals.
The problem is you get a player who stays away
from the offseason program, stays away from training camp, isn't
there until right before the start of the season, and
then all of a sudden, he's not the same guy.
It's a bad way of doing business. They've burned themselves
multiple times in the past. They're stubborn about it, and
(32:42):
they're dragging their feet on Michael Parsons and now Dan
He's trying to negotiate directly with Parsons and cut out
his agent, which is a CBA violation, and he's open
about it. It's ludicrous and it's a bad way of
doing business. If you're a Cowboys fan, any Cowboys fans listening,
you should demand better from the guy who who is
the steward of your favorite team, because this is one
(33:03):
of the reasons why it's been thirty years since they've
played in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, it's too late for that. It's when his son
takes over that you ask for something, then.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
We'll think it's gonna get any better. He's learned from
Jerry and he's not taking the wheel from Jerry and
doing things differently. I mean, look, let's face it, and
I want to be respectful this situation, but there is
a point where Jerry is no longer going to have
his fastball. That's when Steven's got to step up. And
we've maybe seen some evidence in the past few years
to say, hey, Steven, it's time for you to take
(33:35):
over and get things done a different way.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Thank you, Mike, thank you Dan, thank you franch answering
the call. I anytime I feel smarter, he's Mike Florio
Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to Football Night
in America. Yeah, occasionally I'll say to Fritzy, text Florio.
If I don't know it, not to say text Florio.
Chances are Mike will know. All right, that's it. We'll
(33:59):
come back. We've got more phone calls. But Marvin, did
you think that was the end of the show.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I was like, we got one more segment?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I know we do. He said, that's it, and like,
I think all of us looked at the what I'd
do another hour? Let's run them? Yeah, not afraid.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I think I'm scared.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Are we allowed to?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I mean we could do it. Doesn't mean that anybody's
going to hear it, but we could do it.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Todd, I don't see why we can't.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, that didn't sound like there's actually lots of rules.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I have to make a couple of calls. And I
think there's a show that follows us and just gets no.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
No, we would just do the show right for us?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Just in here, Oh just a humourself.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes we do.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Anyway, how about we get some more practice. How many
years have we been together?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I'd say about twenty three.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, that bullpark, But I don't think we've mastered it
yet we have not.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, we have definitely not, because if we mastered it,
we'd stop.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, we're not going to master it by the time
I retire in three years.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
No.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
No, this is like golf.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's on I mastered Sports Center and then I needed
to leave this. This is far more challenging. So that's
why we're going to continue to do it until we
either get it right. If we win a Sports Emmy,
then I might walk away. I might go elway.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay, do you guys want to want to win as
Sports Emmy? How badly do you want to win a
Sports Emmy? Because maybe I just go elway on you
and just say that's it.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yes, Paul, So you're saying, I think the awards are
in early June, the Sports Emmy Awards. We won that night. Yeah,
one more show and wrap it. Yeah, I think I'd
come back and do one more show.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
How about this?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (35:44):
All right?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Uh, not to be a Debbie downer, but if we
win the Sports Emmy this year, I'll quit and you
guys can stay because there's no way that's happening.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well, I don't want you to quit. Okay, Yeah, there's
no way that that's going to happen, that we win.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
But you just committed to quitting if we did, because
it would be that shocking if we If we won
the award this year, I would let you could fire
me if you want the day.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Oh I don't, don't.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I don't want to lose you. I got fired Todd,
but I want to lose you. Okay, you could fire
Todd if we win, get rid of Todd.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, but if we lose, you have to keep them.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I'm stuck with Todd, Todd. I'm with you next three years.
I can't quit you. Well, take a break. We're back
after this.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Alex Ovechkin number eight nine to one, so he needs
four more goals to break Wayne Gretzki's all time record.
Hello friends, Jim nance on the show tomorrow is huge.
Easton Cougar's are in the final four. It's got to
be a little strange for Jim to show up at
the Final four and not broadcast the final four. And
(37:08):
I saw where he's going to do the Masters for
like eleven or twelve more years, something like that till
the one hundredth edition of the Masters on CBS, A
tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yes, Paul, you did a four year retirement countdown. Jim
Nanston an eleven year.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, Topper, he'll join us on the program tomorrow.
I had a couple of phone calls in here Curry
in California, Hey Curry, Hey.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Dan, how you guys doing today? I was calling based
on the Christian Lightner comment about him being part of
a winning program in college and that's really what helped
him succeed. But I was trying to figure out, like
what would be a bust? If if he's not a bust,
and if like Ryan leif went to a bad program,
(38:00):
then how do we know Ryan Leaf is a bust?
Like what makes a bust? If you go to a
bad program, then how do you know?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Well, Ryan Leaf was a total bust. Ladner made an
All Star team and played what twelve or thirteen years?
That's not a bust. He just wasn't, you know, as
great as he was in college. He didn't come close
to that. But I don't consider him a bust.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yes, Laightner's rookie year in the NBA, he averaged eighteen
and nine. I mean he was a nice player. His
first seven years, he averaged about sixteen seventeen points a game.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
He was just on a bad team and he wasn't
a savior for a bad team. But that piece with
a good team then you know, maybe he doesn't have
the numbers, but he wins. Joe and Dayton, Hi, Joe,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I doing good?
Speaker 12 (38:53):
Sir.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Hey, I don't know. I don't know if you knew this,
but your cohort from the VU DTUV days, Mike McConnell
is retired this Friday, the big one to w l W. Yeah,
and do you remember you did? You guys did the
homegrown albums?
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (39:09):
And I bought one I have And on the photo
is the tu WEE staff. Now. Uh, we got bottom Row,
You got Dave Zach Sewan, Scott, Chuck Browing, Uh, Sue Ernston,
Mike McConnell, Jim Tobin, Bob Clark, and last not least
Dan Pugh.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, Michael McConnell, Alan McConnell. He uh, he was a
voice of Cincinnati w WELW talk show host. Great, great
at what he did, what he does and UH always smooth.
He's one of those guys that you just kind of
observe how.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And he was a DJ at WTUI went to the
University of Dayton as well. But UH, Cincinnati has been
treated because Uh Mike is a very bright, very funny man.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Luck with retirement this Dane sports history.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Paul nineteen eighty four. John Thompson and his Hoyas. When
the NCAA Tournament nineteen eighty four in Baltimore, President Reagan
throughout the season opening first pitch White Sox oriols, this
is a good nineteen eighty five, the NCAA Rules Committee
adopted the forty five second shot clock for men's basketball.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
UH nineteen thirty one. A seventeen year old girl, Jackie Mitchell,
strikes out Babe Ruth and lou Gerrigg in an exhibition game.
Was that softball or was that baseball?
Speaker 11 (40:35):
I thought that that was.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I thought that was softball for some reason. In Chattanooga, Tennessee. UH,
let's go around the room see if we learned anything.
Todd learn anything today?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
I did by tabling the Tush push decision. It appears
the commissioner didn't get the voting result he wanted.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Seaton, what did you learn today? You might know? Mark
Sench is a call Marvin? What did you learn?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
You're a drummer boy? I am.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm not a flat when comes to chicken wings and
blue cheese. Paul, would you learn today?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I just learned about Jackie Mitchell seventeen years old. She
struck out Babe Ruth with a baseball.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Wow, Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Joker does whatever he wants to do at his own
pace with his old man moves and footwork.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Jim Nance will join us on the program tomorrow. I
hope you'll stop by as well. Have a great day, everybody.
We'll talk to you tomorrow
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio already the final hour on this Wednesday, Dan
and the Danis dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Time flies when you're having fun.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Minister of Humors here also Seaton mar Pauliers truly the
back room guys as well. We made the announcement earlier,
but just a subtle friendly reminder. We're going to be
at Lambeau and the Shadows of Lambeau at the bar.
It's on home Grown Way, about three blocks from Lambeau,
famous for their wings the flats as they like to say.
(00:34):
So we'll be there and it'll be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
of Draft week and you can join us. First come,
first serve when it comes to being in the studio audience.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes, Tom first show exactly three weeks from today.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Okay, three weeks from today, will be in the final
hour of the show. It'll be raucus, great people there,
great atmosphere. There will be a fun show. I think
Frank Caliendo is going to stop by. Maybe Doug Gottlieb,
the Wisconsin Green Bay head coach would stop by as well.
We'll get you ready for the NFL Draft drafts. At
the draft brought to you by Miller Lite.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
How many streets in the town or city of Green
Bay do you think are named after packer legends? H
I know there's a farm way. It's right by the stadium.
I've got a I've got Donald Driver Way. I'm looking
at a list right now. I hope this is real.
Mike McCarthy way, Oh, okay, Reggie White Way.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Is there a Phil Benkston Way? Is there a Dan
Devine Way? How about Don mccowski?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I got bart Star Drive, of course, yes, Lombardy av
Sterling Sharp.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't see that is Farbes Steakhount still there?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Checking?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, it probably is Taylor Street, Oh, Jim Taylor, Taylor
pull back. Yeah, whole horning.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
I don't know who their safety was Ridge, but there's
an s Ridge Road that's obviously.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Thanks you seeing Ted main Street. One of their great linebackers.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Lombardy.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Obviously Lombardy's got a couple.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I think.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Yeah, there at Chimura Junction or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Culed a Zach, there's Don Hudson Road.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, we're looking for more.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, Willie Davis maybe, oh, ray come on, rayn has
to be a dead end because when you ran into
ray Nik It was a dead end.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Is there like a couldest sack named after John Kuhn?
Checking the like an edge rusher because the sacks?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Would you rather have a street named after you or
have a statue?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
A statue?
Speaker 8 (02:54):
Really?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You know what the local newscasts are going as a
lock up on Reggie White Way.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
No, No, I just want people, strangers, perfect strangers putting
their hands all over my body.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's so smooth. I don't need a statue for that.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yes, Tom, but no one can say that's an ugly
street sign that looks nothing like you.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, they made Ronaldo look ugly, which is impossible, but
they did it when they did his statue, and Dwayne
Wade was h h. It's like when Bobbleheads first came out.
It felt like every bobblehead looked like the same bibblehead.
But they'd be like, oh, yeah, who's that? Oh that's
(03:37):
I remember. I got mine and it didn't look like
me the first one I got when I was at
the Mothership there. All right, we got sidetracked, but then
we're famous for getting sidetracked. Good morning, if you're watching
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question for the final hour of the program, Mike Florio
(03:59):
from Pro Football Talk will try to sort out what
happened the last two days at the NFL owners meeting
and why they tabled the tush push other than we
got to do a little more homework and convince more
people to vote to get rid of it. All right,
what do you have seton?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
This is one of the craziest poll questions we've ever had.
Uh and actually Russ Tucker approves. Oh, not the one
maybe you're thinking of. Do you prefer flats or drums? Okay,
right now it is fifty point three to forty nine
point si thousands of votes, thousands of votes.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, everybody has an opinion. I want to throw in
blue cheese or ranch. I don't want to do that
to the show today. It's criminal to have ranch with
wings right now? Should they should come in and arrest people?
Is that blue cheese?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, it's ranch. Come with me, it's registration.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Wipe your fingers, yes, put them in Like the US,
there used to be like a smoke section like when
you went to Ponderosa or something and like, oh, look
at this little plastic wall like Todd and I have.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can smoke over on that side because it smoked them.
That's where the Ranch people go.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, wow, that's where I would be.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No offense, Marvin, you got a thought on this? Oh
I hate blue cheese.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, but do you like?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, you love Ranch.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It would always be on the wings.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Never blue cheese ranches.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I hate blue cheese. What what time? No, I'm on
Marvin's team with that. Definitely Ranch, not a blue cheese guy.
And I like drums.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
I can be convinced otherwise when we get to Green Bay.
But I always wandered drums only for a dollar morel
It's true local pizza plants.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Drums only preent dollar extra. Okay, well drums, let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're a big spender.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
They haven't been a dollar fifty extra. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I got to check my ten Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Are we just going to stay with that pole question?
Might as well? Well, we got some other ones too
that I'll run down for you. But do you prefer
flats or drums?
Speaker 9 (05:57):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Zero point three percent of the audience slightly prefer flats
over drums, that's all it is. Yeah, I'm a drummer boy,
nuts though, absolutely well. Do you have who is currently
the most best in their sport?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Otani Jokic, McDavid Mahomes, Okay, right now, shohe Otani has
about fifty four percent of that vote, followed by Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Patrick Mahomes has six point nine percent of that vote.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know if he's considered the best player in
his sport, but he's the guy that I want with
the ball, with the game on the with the biggest
game on the line. Does that make you the best
player in your sport? I don't know, yes, Todd, I don't.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Think the most clutch player equals the best player in
a sport.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But what is what is sport about? It's about winning, correct? Yes,
winning championships? Correct yes, But if that guy gives you
the best chance to win a championship where he offers
something that is better, more complete, different than any other quarterback,
does that make him the best player in his sport.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
There are people that have been known to come through
in like, you know, big moments that aren't necessarily on
the very top of the list of everyone that's ever
played that sport. Uh Like Robert ORRII is not anywhere
near the best player ever, but you know, he's someone
that had some big shot Bob moments.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But if I said, you could have Robert Orri game
on the line, or you could have Kobe game on
the line, or Michael Jordan or Larry Bird or Reggie Miller.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
That's a tough one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But Robert or I'm guessing most of those big shots
that he hit he was open. He didn't go for
a triple double, he didn't get you thirty, but he
did hit the big shot. There's a difference in everybody
knows you're going to take it to that guy's open,
he's going to be able to take that shot. Now,
(07:57):
he did hit those, he did win those champsapionships, but
he wasn't the guy that they went out and go, hey,
we got to stop Robert Orry. They had to stop
other people. Robert or stepped up, which is what you
want with your role players. All right, A couple of
phone calls. By the way, Jokich went for sixty one,
ten and ten, and god do I hate the triple double?
(08:21):
I do because you know what, when Oscar did it
back in what nineteen sixty two, sixty three. We didn't
call it a triple double. Just he averaged this and
averaged that, and he averaged that, and then Russell Westbrook
Junior the third one an MVP because he had he
averaged a triple double.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I truly think if he averaged like.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Thirty nine and eight, he wouldn't have been the MVP
because they would have been like, well, I don't know, hey,
he averaged a triple double. You know, the last person
to do that, the big o'. If you said to
Larry Bird or Magic Johnson, hey, once you go average
a triple double, they would have done that. Yes, Marvin, Oh,
(09:08):
there's no argument. It's a fact. That's why he won
the MVP. He won the MVP. They were a six
cy DP. It was last time a sixty won MVP
in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's not gonna happen again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
No, absolutely not, no, no, well man, that was Burton.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But if you said, I don't know if it was
Willie Mays or Mickey manno, that said you know about
going thirty thirty thirty homers, thirty stolen bases. If I
would have known that it was going to be a
big deal. I would have done it a few times.
You know, we're so stat heavy, stat driven. That's how
you know all of these athletes make their money because
(09:43):
their stats are compared to a previous generation baseball players.
Oh my god, my third baseman hit thirty eight home runs.
You know, no other third baseman's hit that many home runs. Oh,
he's worth this amount of money. We are so cognizant
of stats. Like, if Babe Ruth was cognizant of stats,
what do you have continued to pick? If he would
have known about Otani, what do you have continued to pitch? Right,
(10:07):
he'd be like, I'm going to choose not to pitch.
I figure I can have more fun by just hitting.
I don't have to pitch. I can just hit, and
I can be maybe the greatest hitter of all time.
But yeah, we get caught up in the numbers and
the triple double. If Joker goes sixty one to nine
(10:31):
and eight, is it less of a game? And the
answer is no, But this is really easy. He had
a triple double. I think this is the most points
for somebody who had a triple double in history, sixty
one points. Steph was spectacular though, fifty two on the Grizzlies. God,
(10:55):
I never ever ever get tired of watching him play.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Never.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And you know, there's a couple of guys, and I
love ant man. Anthony Edwards is just he's just a
dynamo man and he's fun to watch. But there are
certain players where I just I would watch Steph Curry
in practice, I would, I would watch him in warmups
(11:21):
must see TV. And I love Joker because he just
understands the game that very very few understand that way.
You know, Magic understood that. You know a lot of
the greats understand it. But Joker's doing it. He's just
doing it more deliberate, slower. You kind of know what
(11:45):
he's doing. In Minnesota, last I looked had the stifle
tower Rudy in the go bets and he put up
sixty one. Now, granted Rudy wasn't on him the whole time,
he might have had seventy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow, that's not nice.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't know why on what your deal today? No,
I'm kind of mean today.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You're not wrong about Beard, but still I.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Roughed up Fritzy, I roughed up Mark Sanchez. Be nice
to Mike Florio still try. Yes, Marvin Man, you questioned
that man's paternity.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's just a joke.
Speaker 11 (12:20):
It was.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It was a you know, who's the never mind.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
With a fellow US quarterback and a Fox.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I know, but I thought that that might be funny
that I bring up Matt Lioner, maybe the father of
one of your children.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
He's a good sport.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
He is hasn't returned any of my text when I
set out everything's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't know what's.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gonna I know, I said to Todd, check if Sanchez
is okay with that comment. He goes, I think he is.
I think he is. Yeah, Paulie, I.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Did have a quick update from Packers fans. There's a
Raynichkey Memorial Bridge. You got a whole bridge that's awesome.
Like to go up you can't pass. I see that.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know, maybe we do a story on all the
landmarks there go on. Maybe we send Dylan out and
he does something on all the landmarks there on Green Bay.
Troy in Carson City, Hi Troy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (13:19):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Thanks so much, long time, first time since two thousand
and eight, five nine and a super Soft two sixty soft. Yeah,
so was going to talk about Purdy, but you brought
up Curry and my son and I just went to
the Warriors game a couple months ago just to see
the warm ups and it was better than the game
(13:40):
and they won. That was Butler's first home game with
Biggy's retirement. He's just phenomenal. But with Purty, Paulie was
saying that, you know he doesn't do anything elite. Well, Paulie,
just like you have an elite foliage and plaid game,
Purdy is an elite processor of information. I would say
(14:01):
top three easily. And you can have all the arm
telling in the world, Dan, but if you can't process
and throw it to the right person, you're not gonna
get it. I don't think he's worth fifty five I'd
love to sign him for forty nine max. Maybe forty
five million. But that's my take.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
All right, Well, thank you, Troy. I'm sure the Niners
would love to sign him for that as well. You
can process. I can process a basketball for right now.
That doesn't mean I can do everything. I can do
very little. Brock can process the game. You still have
to make the plays. Like Peyton Manning could still process
the game when he was in Denver. He just couldn't perform.
(14:41):
That's the difference Rock Party. Can he throw to the numbers.
I'm only going by what a scout to him. That's
all a scout who did scout him at Iowa? Stay yes,
by hey.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Kids, I got tickets to watch Rock Party process this weekend.
Jump in the car man he process.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Now on sale, Brock pretty processor? Is that a computer?
A processor that it used to be a computer?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
A computer processor? Or word process?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Okay, nearly down is like a fancier typewriter?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
How about we take a break here and we'll make
way for Mike Florio. He's going to tell you everything
that happened, why the tush push was tabled to may
the overtime rule. Because I'm still not sure is the
regular season the same as the postseason? And I think
I have an idea of the kickoffs. I'm not sure
about the on side kick. So I got questions that
(15:39):
Florio needs to answer. Maybe this segment is just for
me to enrich me, to make me smarter when I
go to those holiday parties.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
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Speaker 3 (16:58):
I go to Mike Florio in a time of need.
There are times when we have a question Toddle send
it to Mike Florio. He usually responds something that could
be of a legal issue, Mike being a lawyer, and
now I come to Mike Florio in a time of need.
I don't know exactly what happened at the owner's meetings.
I'm still trying to understand over time. I'm trying to
(17:21):
understand the onside kick why the tush push was tabled. So, Mike,
where do you want to start to enlighten me and
hopefully our audience when you come to me in a
time of.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Need, Dan, is there any type of a bat signal
involved that I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Not aware of?
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Or is it just Fritzy? Is it texting me? That's
the bats signal? It's the Fritz signal?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, Now, could the Eagles have demanded a vote yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
With the tush push?
Speaker 11 (17:50):
Well, no, that's not how it works. When the wind
is blowing against a proposal passing, it tends to get
tabled because if you put it up for a vote,
you're going to get numbers that fall short of the
requisite twenty four to change the rules. And ESPN dot
COM's Cayl and Kaylor reported that sixteen teams were in
(18:11):
favor of the Packers proposal, which means sixteen aren't. But
the proposal itself from the Packers was very flawed, and
I don't know whether they introduced a bad proposal just
to get the conversation started. But the idea of banning
the immediate pushing of the quarterback after it gets the
snap that opens a can of worms for officiating and
(18:32):
consistency and replay review, and Tinfoil had conspiracies. They threw
the flag on that one when it wasn't really immediate
and the fixes in so I'm glad they're stepping back
from that and they're really getting to the heart of this.
The heart of this is do we want to get
rid of the maneuver altogether of a player who has
the ball being pushed from behind. The rule used to
(18:52):
be you couldn't do it. They changed the rule because
they were never enforcing it, and that was more down
the field, guys running for the first down, Here come
Jimbo Cervert chugging along and shoving him for the first down.
It was never incorporated into the actual play. The Eagles
realized sixteen years after they allowed this, the Eagles realized,
(19:13):
we can weaponize this. That's the issue. Are we going
to reset the clock to when you couldn't pull or
push the player with the ball? And if they want
to get rid of this, Dan, that's the easiest and
best way to do it. Reset the clock to two
thousand and four and say no more pushing, and then
Eagles will just run a quarterbacks and you can They'll
still kick everybody's ass and they'll have to come up
(19:33):
with some other way to explain why the Eagles are
superior to everyone when it comes to these short yardage plays.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's why I said you can get rid of the
tush push. The Eagles are still going to be dominating
with that offensive line and with that quarterback in this position.
But it feels like they table this because the NFL
is not getting the results they want, which isn't fair
to the Eagles. If you said, let's vote right now,
why can't they add for a vote right now?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So what if it doesn't pass? That's what that's the
opinion right now.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
It's a great point, and let's play it out. If
the Eagles had said, we demand a vote today on
the Packers' proposal, Okay, it goes down sixteen sixteen, not
enough to pass, they could still reformulate a new proposal
for May, which is what they're doing. I think a
lot of this is just pr.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Based and they're gonna get rid of this, aren't they.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Well, this is what bothers me. I feel like, and
it reminds me a lot of what happened when the
Patriots were successful. The Patriots always cheat. That's what all
the other teams would say, because when the owners are
asking the coaches and gms that they've hired and paid
a lot of money to, why can't you beat the Patriots,
the easy thing to say is they cheat. So now
(20:52):
we've found something the Eagles do that helps explain their dominance,
and we're saying it's not football, it doesn't look like football,
it's not safe. Well, where's the injury data? We don't
have any, but we might have some at some point.
So let's get rid of it now because it might
not be safe at some point in the future. And
what I don't like about it is I feel like
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there's a lot of moving of the goalposts, and I
almost feel like our political discourse has crept into football,
where you have people making these transparently obvious, self interested
arguments that are bull crap. I almost said the other word,
and I remembered your FCC regulated, so I corrected myself.
But they're making these arguments all because the egos have
(21:39):
cracked the code, and everybody else is standing there looking
at the safe and they don't even know how to
begin to spin the dial. And that's it feels like
to me, that's what's going on here. Let's just call
it what it is. The Eagles are kicking everybody's butt,
and so let's just take away the best club that
they have in the bag.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host with Chris
is the show that precedes hours on Peacock. All right,
let's recap replay on sidekick, any other rule changes. I'll
let you start with whatever's top on your list.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
Well, the on side kick continues to be a dead play,
and they've tabled until May the question of whether they'll
allow the team that's trailing to try an on sidekick
at any point before the fourth quarter. And it was
relevant in the Super Bowl because as the Chiefs were
driving down thirty four to nothing, I said to Michael
David Smith and Sharen Williams in the press box the Superdome, Hey,
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they might want to wait until the fourth quarter to score,
because if they score in the third quarter, they can't
do an on side kick, and it's kind of a dumb,
arbitrary limitation on the opportunity to retain possession. All that said,
the on side kick currently is worthless. It's meaningless. I
like the idea of a fourth and long play as
a way to give the team that's trailing the opportunity
to keep possession, but for now they've done nothing with it.
(22:56):
All they've done is they've changed the touchback point from
the thirty to the thirty five, which will spark more returns.
And it's funny, Dan, I've had people point out to me,
we're so concerned about the safety of the tush push,
which has been around for three years, and there's no
evidence it's not safe. Meanwhile, we're gonna have a dramatic
increase in these kickoff returns with this new formation, where
(23:18):
even though you don't have the catastrophic injury potential with
two guys going full speed coming at each other thirty
yards apart, you still get guys ear hold in short
yardage and kickers blown up. And that's not even a conversation.
It's just a weird dichotomy right now.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, and then they're gonna be pushing for an eighteen
game season, so you can't sit here. And it's about
players pushing Dan.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
It's just a matter of when it's happening. It's just
a matter of when.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Okay, But this is the last real chip for the
Players Association when you think about what can we get now?
Can we ask for three more roster spots, Could we
get an offensive Can we get a third string quarterback?
Can we get somebody on off, somebody on defense, or
whatever you know you're going to ask for. But this
feels like last call for the Players Association to be
(24:06):
able to go. We'll give you that eighteenth game. What
do you think the players are going to win in return?
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Well, and here's what it ultimately boils down to. Will
the NFL wait until the current CBA expires in March
of twenty thirty one. Lock the players out until they
cry uncle on an eighteenth game, and then get whatever
deal the NFL has put on the table, because we
know what will happen. The players are never going to
take the nuclear option. The owners will so to get
(24:33):
to eighteen before twenty thirty one. What will the union
want and what can the union get? And a year ago,
Lloyd Howe, the fairly new NFLPA executive director, was interviewed
by I believe the Washington Post, possibly The Athletic and
when he was asked about eighteen games, he said, who
doesn't want more football? And it was a horrible negotiating posture.
(24:56):
He has since backtracked. I don't know if you could
put that to paste back in the two, But in
February Dan he adopted a more no way in hell posture,
which is what you need to start from in order
to get the best possible deal for the players if
it's gonna happen. And I think the year to watch
is twenty twenty nine. That's when, and really it's after
(25:17):
twenty nine when the CBA, not the CBA expires, but
the TV deals are up for grabs. But you know
they could do it. They could do it whenever they want.
The union in the league could come through an agreement
on eighteen games today if they wanted to. The question
is what can the players get? And you're right, more
roster spots, maybe a little larger piece of the pie,
just basically anything else you want. If the league wants
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to get to eighteen, now, ask for everything. Hell, I've
even suggested in the past, somewhat jokingly, go ahead and
offer twenty games, because we know we're gonna get to
twenty games one of these days. Twenty games and no
preseason games, and ask for everything. Now, let's go ahead.
You want to get nuts, let's get nuts. Let's do twenty.
And here's the list of everything.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We'd want to go to twenty overtime regular season, overtime postseason.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are they aligned?
Speaker 9 (26:06):
Not?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Now?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 11 (26:08):
No, not the way that I think it could have been. Look,
I don't like the idea of a fifteen minute overtime
in the regular season because what if you're playing a
Thursday after you play a Sunday, and you go fifteen
minutes of overtime on Sunday and then you got to
turn around on Thursday and potentially go fifteen minutes of
overtime then too. But by doing only ten minutes and
guaranteeing a possession for each team, we're gonna get into
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a situation where the team that receives the kick potentially
is going to chew up what, yeah, nine minutes on
a touchdown drive. And Chris Simms made a great point today.
You get around the thirty five of the other team,
and that defense might say, well, maybe we're gonna let
them score a touchdown here because we want to have
a fair crack to answer the touchdown instead of having
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them take the rest of the time off the clock
and we're in a two minute offense to try to
match this touchdown. I think that they made mistake by
not going back to fifteen minutes, because you want to
have both teams to have a fair shot at a
possession in that overtime period. And I think if that's
the case, you'll see most teams, if they win the toss,
choose to kick, and then if the team that receives
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gets a touchdown, you'll see an opportunity to try to
score and go for two and end it there with
ten minutes. I don't think it's as obvious that the
right choice is to kick if you win the toss.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
More reviewable plays with replay.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
I like it, but I don't like what they've done.
I don't like this discrepancy between will use replay assist
to determine whether or not to pick up a flag
that was thrown that shouldn't have been flown, for example,
horse collar tackle. They throw the flag, they look at it,
clear and obvious evidence there was no horse collar tackle.
You pick up the flag, but face mask Sam Darnold
(27:53):
getting the Linda Blair treatment from the Exorcist on that
Thursday night against the Rams. The referee didn't see it,
the umpire didn't see it, and we got the explanation, well,
you know they're down there, they can't see everything. Okay, fine,
the replay sees it. We all see it all, but
we're not going to put a flag on the field
that that to me, doesn't solve the problem. There's still
(28:13):
this donut hole in the gap between what the official
see on the field and what we see at home,
and the excuse like we don't want to officiate the
game from the booth. They're already doing that. We don't
want to put where it's a non starter to put
a flag down. You've had for years the ability to
use replay to put a flag down for twelve men
on the field, So I don't like it. I think
(28:34):
it's a half measure. I think it's going to cause
more problems, and hopefully next year they'll realize we need
to go ahead and use it for you know, if
there is or isn't or was or wasn't for just
a narrow handful of plays where we can all see
that the foul did or didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think one of the more exciting plays, even though
it's not a play, but it's a moment are we
gonna lose? Is the chain gang coming out to measure
for a first down? I love that, But is modern
technology going to keep those guys on the sidelines?
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Well, you know, Dan, that's the reason why they kept
doing it for over one hundred years. Think back to
when football was first invented. How do we determine whether
or not the team with the ball got ten yards?
I know, let's get two sticks and ten yards of
chain link and we'll use that to determine it. And
it does create a moment of drama when the big
(29:32):
orange stick gets pulled and maybe Gene's terotor has to
pull a card out of his pocket and bend over
and didn't really get there. And sometimes you'll see and
you see a lot of high school games where that
word stick, you know which way the wind is blowing
a little bit here, and it's a first down. But
this is where the stakes of the game nowadays, especially
(29:54):
with legalized gambling, if they cry out for a full
embrace of technology. Let's get everything that we can get right,
and let's let's set aside the things that have been
in place for a hundred years. There are better ways
to do it. And you're right, that moment is going
to be gone now, except when the Hawkeye system ends
(30:14):
up being down and they have to use the chains.
But I think there's such an imperative now for the
league to try to get everything right. With so much
money bet legally on our phones coast to coast on
the outcomes of these games, they have to get these
calls right.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't spend a lot of time on the Cowboys,
but when I do, it's usually about Jerry Jones and
trying to understand a man who took a one hundred
and fifty million dollar investment and made it worth ten
billion dollars. But trying to understand how he negotiates that
he likes to see a little bit more. Well, every
(30:53):
time he's wanted to see a little bit more, he
spends a whole lot more. He did it with dak
Ceede Lamb, and now he's saying, apparently he's got to
see a little bit more with Micah Parsons before he
ponies up the biggest contract to anybody other than quarterbacks.
So is there a method to the madness here that
Jerry Jones is doing something that we're not seeing the
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genius behind it.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I think Jerry Jones is the prime example of how
certain skills that allowed you to make the money that
enabled you to purchase an NFL team are not transferable
to how to be as successful as you can be
when you own the NFL team. This is a guy
who has done great business deals, and he has capitalized
(31:36):
on his leverage, and he knows how to twist arms
the right way and schmooth someone at the right moment
to get them to agree to a deal that maybe
isn't in their best interest, but it's definitely in his
best interest in his oil leases and all of his
other billions that have come from that world. Doesn't work here.
They drag their feet with all of these key players.
(31:59):
They have paid paid the wrong guys at times, they
have failed to pay the right guys. They wait too long.
They have gotten themselves painted into a corner with Dak
Prescott twice, the Michael Parsons contract. If you really want
to do it, you could do it in an hour.
Max Crosby and the Raiders did a new deal literally
in two or three hours. And you don't need to
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have a ticking clock like Jerry wants to wait for
a clock that is ticking toward midnight to do his deals.
The problem is you get a player who stays away
from the offseason program, stays away from training camp, isn't
there until right before the start of the season, and
then all of a sudden, he's not the same guy.
It's a bad way of doing business. They've burned themselves
multiple times in the past. They're stubborn about it, and
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they're dragging their feet on Michael Parsons and now Dan
He's trying to negotiate directly with Parsons and cut out
his agent, which is a CBA violation, and he's open
about it. It's ludicrous and it's a bad way of
doing business. If you're a Cowboys fan, any Cowboys fans listening,
you should demand better from the guy who who is
the steward of your favorite team, because this is one
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of the reasons why it's been thirty years since they've
played in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, it's too late for that. It's when his son
takes over that you ask for something, then.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
We'll think it's gonna get any better. He's learned from
Jerry and he's not taking the wheel from Jerry and
doing things differently. I mean, look, let's face it, and
I want to be respectful this situation, but there is
a point where Jerry is no longer going to have
his fastball. That's when Steven's got to step up. And
we've maybe seen some evidence in the past few years
to say, hey, Steven, it's time for you to take
(33:35):
over and get things done a different way.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Thank you, Mike, thank you Dan, thank you franch answering
the call. I anytime I feel smarter, he's Mike Florio
Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to Football Night
in America. Yeah, occasionally I'll say to Fritzy, text Florio.
If I don't know it, not to say text Florio.
Chances are Mike will know. All right, that's it. We'll
(33:59):
come back. We've got more phone calls. But Marvin, did
you think that was the end of the show.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I was like, we got one more segment?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I know we do. He said, that's it, and like,
I think all of us looked at the what I'd
do another hour? Let's run them? Yeah, not afraid.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I think I'm scared.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Are we allowed to?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I mean we could do it. Doesn't mean that anybody's
going to hear it, but we could do it.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Todd, I don't see why we can't.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, that didn't sound like there's actually lots of rules.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I have to make a couple of calls. And I
think there's a show that follows us and just gets no.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
No, we would just do the show right for us?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Just in here, Oh just a humourself.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes we do.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Anyway, how about we get some more practice. How many
years have we been together?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I'd say about twenty three.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, that bullpark, But I don't think we've mastered it
yet we have not.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, we have definitely not, because if we mastered it,
we'd stop.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, we're not going to master it by the time
I retire in three years.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
No.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
No, this is like golf.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's on I mastered Sports Center and then I needed
to leave this. This is far more challenging. So that's
why we're going to continue to do it until we
either get it right. If we win a Sports Emmy,
then I might walk away. I might go elway.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay, do you guys want to want to win as
Sports Emmy? How badly do you want to win a
Sports Emmy? Because maybe I just go elway on you
and just say that's it.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yes, Paul, So you're saying, I think the awards are
in early June, the Sports Emmy Awards. We won that night. Yeah,
one more show and wrap it. Yeah, I think I'd
come back and do one more show.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
How about this?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (35:44):
All right?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Uh, not to be a Debbie downer, but if we
win the Sports Emmy this year, I'll quit and you
guys can stay because there's no way that's happening.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well, I don't want you to quit. Okay, Yeah, there's
no way that that's going to happen, that we win.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
But you just committed to quitting if we did, because
it would be that shocking if we If we won
the award this year, I would let you could fire
me if you want the day.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Oh I don't, don't.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I don't want to lose you. I got fired Todd,
but I want to lose you. Okay, you could fire
Todd if we win, get rid of Todd.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, but if we lose, you have to keep them.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I'm stuck with Todd, Todd. I'm with you next three years.
I can't quit you. Well, take a break. We're back
after this.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Alex Ovechkin number eight nine to one, so he needs
four more goals to break Wayne Gretzki's all time record.
Hello friends, Jim nance on the show tomorrow is huge.
Easton Cougar's are in the final four. It's got to
be a little strange for Jim to show up at
the Final four and not broadcast the final four. And
(37:08):
I saw where he's going to do the Masters for
like eleven or twelve more years, something like that till
the one hundredth edition of the Masters on CBS, A
tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yes, Paul, you did a four year retirement countdown. Jim
Nanston an eleven year.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, Topper, he'll join us on the program tomorrow.
I had a couple of phone calls in here Curry
in California, Hey Curry, Hey.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Dan, how you guys doing today? I was calling based
on the Christian Lightner comment about him being part of
a winning program in college and that's really what helped
him succeed. But I was trying to figure out, like
what would be a bust? If if he's not a bust,
and if like Ryan leif went to a bad program,
(38:00):
then how do we know Ryan Leaf is a bust?
Like what makes a bust? If you go to a
bad program, then how do you know?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Well, Ryan Leaf was a total bust. Ladner made an
All Star team and played what twelve or thirteen years?
That's not a bust. He just wasn't, you know, as
great as he was in college. He didn't come close
to that. But I don't consider him a bust.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yes, Laightner's rookie year in the NBA, he averaged eighteen
and nine. I mean he was a nice player. His
first seven years, he averaged about sixteen seventeen points a game.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
He was just on a bad team and he wasn't
a savior for a bad team. But that piece with
a good team then you know, maybe he doesn't have
the numbers, but he wins. Joe and Dayton, Hi, Joe,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I doing good?
Speaker 12 (38:53):
Sir.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Hey, I don't know. I don't know if you knew this,
but your cohort from the VU DTUV days, Mike McConnell
is retired this Friday, the big one to w l W. Yeah,
and do you remember you did? You guys did the
homegrown albums?
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (39:09):
And I bought one I have And on the photo
is the tu WEE staff. Now. Uh, we got bottom Row,
You got Dave Zach Sewan, Scott, Chuck Browing, Uh, Sue Ernston,
Mike McConnell, Jim Tobin, Bob Clark, and last not least
Dan Pugh.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, Michael McConnell, Alan McConnell. He uh, he was a
voice of Cincinnati w WELW talk show host. Great, great
at what he did, what he does and UH always smooth.
He's one of those guys that you just kind of
observe how.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And he was a DJ at WTUI went to the
University of Dayton as well. But UH, Cincinnati has been
treated because Uh Mike is a very bright, very funny man.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Luck with retirement this Dane sports history.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Paul nineteen eighty four. John Thompson and his Hoyas. When
the NCAA Tournament nineteen eighty four in Baltimore, President Reagan
throughout the season opening first pitch White Sox oriols, this
is a good nineteen eighty five, the NCAA Rules Committee
adopted the forty five second shot clock for men's basketball.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
UH nineteen thirty one. A seventeen year old girl, Jackie Mitchell,
strikes out Babe Ruth and lou Gerrigg in an exhibition game.
Was that softball or was that baseball?
Speaker 11 (40:35):
I thought that that was.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I thought that was softball for some reason. In Chattanooga, Tennessee. UH,
let's go around the room see if we learned anything.
Todd learn anything today?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
I did by tabling the Tush push decision. It appears
the commissioner didn't get the voting result he wanted.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Seaton, what did you learn today? You might know? Mark
Sench is a call Marvin? What did you learn?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
You're a drummer boy? I am.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm not a flat when comes to chicken wings and
blue cheese. Paul, would you learn today?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I just learned about Jackie Mitchell seventeen years old. She
struck out Babe Ruth with a baseball.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Wow, Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Joker does whatever he wants to do at his own
pace with his old man moves and footwork.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Jim Nance will join us on the program tomorrow. I
hope you'll stop by as well. Have a great day, everybody.
We'll talk to you tomorrow
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